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[Q] post root questions

I'm looking to root my inspire for 2 simple reasons. To be able to uninstall the bloatware and have access to the amazon app store. As far as I can tell bubby's 1 click root seems to be the easiest method so far.
I just have a few questions on what to do after or if I'm successful in gaining root.
I'm planning on sticking with the stock rom and not doing anything extra then what bubby's instructions say. (using his rc2)
The gold card....Can I still use it as a SD card in my phone? Do I have to format the card again to restore my backed up files on it or can I just simply add them to the card? Or do I have to get a new SD card?
I've already gotten the OTA update that was released a couple days ago...will the stock rom have HSUPA enabled? Can I still use the OTA update to install updates as they come out or will I have search online for custom updates and install them manually?
Lastly...will I run in to any other problems or glitches? Sound working? Increase/decrease in battery life? Increase/decrease in speed? Baseically will all the apps and functions of my phone still work as well as they did before root?
I feel like I have searched everywhere for answers to these questions but no luck....So any help would be greatly appreciated.

I am new to this too, but I did run across the answer to your SD Card question. Yes, you can use it again as normal without formatting it. At least that is SOME answer to get you started...lol :0)

S.Reno9 said:
I'm looking to root my inspire for 2 simple reasons. To be able to uninstall the bloatware and have access to the amazon app store. As far as I can tell bubby's 1 click root seems to be the easiest method so far.
I just have a few questions on what to do after or if I'm successful in gaining root.
I'm planning on sticking with the stock rom and not doing anything extra then what bubby's instructions say. (using his rc2)
The gold card....Can I still use it as a SD card in my phone? Do I have to format the card again to restore my backed up files on it or can I just simply add them to the card? Or do I have to get a new SD card?
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I had the same question after I first rooted using a gold card as I haven't used one before...best I can tell, it still functions as an sdcard with no differences.
S.Reno9 said:
I've already gotten the OTA update that was released a couple days ago...will the stock rom have HSUPA enabled? Can I still use the OTA update to install updates as they come out or will I have search online for custom updates and install them manually?
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It should but AT&T's definition of HSUPA varies from device to device and region to region. You may get OTA updates, but keep in mind the update may clear your ability to sideload apps and may clear the root access once applied. So yes it might be better to search for custom updates
S.Reno9 said:
Lastly...will I run in to any other problems or glitches? Sound working? Increase/decrease in battery life? Increase/decrease in speed? Baseically will all the apps and functions of my phone still work as well as they did before root?
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Even with stock rom, you're gonna have hiccups now and then, but for the most part, it should be no different.
S.Reno9 said:
I feel like I have searched everywhere for answers to these questions but no luck....So any help would be greatly appreciated.
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You're welcome and YMMV.

sweeeeet....those are exactly the answers I was looking for.
Thanks again

S.Reno9 said:
I'm looking to root my inspire for 2 simple reasons. To be able to uninstall the bloatware and have access to the amazon app store. As far as I can tell bubby's 1 click root seems to be the easiest method so far.
I just have a few questions on what to do after or if I'm successful in gaining root.
I'm planning on sticking with the stock rom and not doing anything extra then what bubby's instructions say. (using his rc2)
The gold card....Can I still use it as a SD card in my phone? Do I have to format the card again to restore my backed up files on it or can I just simply add them to the card? Or do I have to get a new SD card?
I've already gotten the OTA update that was released a couple days ago...will the stock rom have HSUPA enabled? Can I still use the OTA update to install updates as they come out or will I have search online for custom updates and install them manually?
Lastly...will I run in to any other problems or glitches? Sound working? Increase/decrease in battery life? Increase/decrease in speed? Baseically will all the apps and functions of my phone still work as well as they did before root?
I feel like I have searched everywhere for answers to these questions but no luck....So any help would be greatly appreciated.
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In regards to the goldcard...
You may want to consider holding on to it for future possible use (in case you somehow need to root another inspire, you won't have to make another one).
Either buy a 4gb for the goldcard if you want to use the 8gb that came with the phone, or take the opportunity to get a bigger one for daily use in your phone, and use that 8gb for the goldcard.
In regards to OTA updates...
The one on your phone will be lost in the rooting process. After its done, though, you can reflash the same thing back onto your phone... The same Rom is available over in the dev section. Future OTA updates will have to be manually updated by way of this forum. Fear not, they'll be here.
In regards to glitches...
You'll only be left with no sound if you don't finish the process fully. In order to gain root, a temporary downgraded Rom (that has no sound) has to be flashed first. Then, the functioning stock Rom is flashed back on.
People complain they "lost sound after rooting" because they don't follow the process through to completion... Putting a working Rom back on.
Inspired Ace 1.0 ¦ XDA Premium

I have made myself an expert with this stuff LOL...rooted my HTC last week with the simple one click one.......Number 1 is don't change your ROM at all...at least don't go to CM7....you will have major problems with it...........GPS will not work, trust me.
Also, if you change your radio, your also screwed because your UP and DOWNLOAD will be messed up and your GPS won't work as well...i myself am tyring to find a root solution that won't touch my radio.....only push an exploit that will give me unknown sources to be installed and for WIFI tether...that's it for me.

Now I'm curious.
Now that this is out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042
Couldn't someone download this and rename it PD98IMG.zip, boot into hboot and bypass the whole OneClick/Hack kit?
Or does that only work after you're rooted?

Nickovtyme said:
Now I'm curious.
Now that this is out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042
Couldn't someone download this and rename it PD98IMG.zip, boot into hboot and bypass the whole OneClick/Hack kit?
Or does that only work after you're rooted?
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Yeah, unless the PD98IMG is signed by HTC, only a S-OFF hboot will load it.

Gene Poole said:
Yeah, unless the PD98IMG is signed by HTC, only a S-OFF hboot will load it.
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That's right. I forgot about the s-off....I'm starting to take this stuff for granted.

gmiusa02 said:
I have made myself an expert with this stuff LOL...rooted my HTC last week with the simple one click one.......Number 1 is don't change your ROM at all...at least don't go to CM7....you will have major problems with it...........GPS will not work, trust me.
Also, if you change your radio, your also screwed because your UP and DOWNLOAD will be messed up and your GPS won't work as well...i myself am tyring to find a root solution that won't touch my radio.....only push an exploit that will give me unknown sources to be installed and for WIFI tether...that's it for me.
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Are you seriously advising others to not change their Rom or radio because YOU had a bad experience?
Or suggesting that because something didn't work right for you that it will not work for someone else?
Inspired Ace 1.0.1¦ XDA Premium

The problem is to get s-off you have to downgrade the Rom/radio . I am still not rooted I have made my gold card just not sure what Rom/ radio to use . I got the inspire on Monday and am still trying it out not liking the battery life at all or the hissing in the call audio .
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App

jmarrale said:
The problem is to get s-off you have to downgrade the Rom/radio . I am still not rooted I have made my gold card just not sure what Rom/ radio to use . I got the inspire on Monday and am still trying it out not liking the battery life at all or the hissing in the call audio .
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Your waiting to root so you can try out the phone first is a good idea, however, those things you aren't liking so far are actually improved with many custom roms.
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[Q] Root and then Unroot?

Hey everyone,
So I'm new to smartphones as the DROID Charge is my first one ever so if my questions sound stupid, that would be why. Anyway, my charge should be arriving tomorrow from amazon and I have a few questions.
My main question is this: If I root the phone, is there a way to unroot it so I can still get the verizon updates? In addition to this, after I root it and let's just say I take the ED2 update, what would happen? would it unroot itself? would something else happen?
Thanks a lot!

Yes and yes.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA App

thanks,
but what if you take a verizon update while you are rooted? what happens then?

You lose root

ok cool...
but lets say that i freeze or delete all that verizon crapware on it and then take an update and it unroots; will all that come back or will it stay. in addition to that, any rooted apps that are downloaded while im rooted cant be run while im not rooted right?

More likely if you root and freeze the VZ blotware with Titanium after the update Titanium wont work anyone and your bloatware will come back.
The best idea is to stay with ED1 until a root comes for ED2.

alright cool thanks..
how long do you think it'll be before they root ED2? i mean, how long does it normally take them to root things?

Poloasis said:
More likely if you root and freeze the VZ blotware with Titanium after the update Titanium wont work anyone and your bloatware will come back.
The best idea is to stay with ED1 until a root comes for ED2.
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According to posts in another forum, the ED2 update is not a full ROM flash...users who have rooted and removed bloatware under ED1 have then accepted the ED2 update and still have the bloat gone...lost root, however and no current means of regaining.
imnuts and DroidXcon have something in the works, hopefully!

So it sounds like the only way to blow out root is to update to ED2.
OR
It sounds like if someone creates a backup non-rooted Odin package of ED1, that would also be a good way to unroot the phone?

bunklung said:
So it sounds like the only way to blow out root is to update to ED2.
OR
It sounds like if someone creates a backup non-rooted Odin package of ED1, that would also be a good way to unroot the phone?
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http://forum.androidcentral.com/cha...harge-5-19-11-windows-mac-now-gingersnap.html
Includes unroot if you used android police methods or Semi auto root...im going to have to modify the unroot a bit because of gingersnap though

What are the advantages of root without custom rom

Hi
just a short question.. what are the advantages of having a rooted phone if one doesn't want to install a custom rom?
- Can I remove all the crap-ware that was delivered with the phone? e.g. Navigation
- Can I still get the HTC-OTA Updates?
- Can I use the market as usual?
Thanks & Cheers
Michael

Yes, you can remove bloat ware and still use market, but not sure about ota updates
You'll also be able to perform full nandroid backups of your device
With extra addition of a new kernel you'll be able to over clock cpu.
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I don't think you can use OTA's. but all you would have to do is unroot, update and reroot
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perfect - thanks for the information. I rooted it.. works perfectly.. finally "htc locations" is gone!!

the qestion i ask myself here: why wouldnt you want to flash a custom rom, when having the ability to do so?
im currently running lbc mod and im very happy with it
plus it seems to me that the roms that are out now are just the beginning!

why would I change? stock rom does what I need it to do.. if I find a reason I can still change...

chaelli said:
why would I change? stock rom does what I need it to do.. if I find a reason I can still change...
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You should at least try a custom ROM before you decide to stay on shipped stock, you can always re-stock by running an RUU.
You'll find that a good custom, I personally like LBC MOD is simply a faster, improved, better looking version of stock with less bugs and added functionality.
Otherwise its like buying a car and never using the top gear.

chaelli said:
Hi
just a short question.. what are the advantages of having a rooted phone if one doesn't want to install a custom rom?
- Can I remove all the crap-ware that was delivered with the phone? e.g. Navigation
- Can I still get the HTC-OTA Updates?
- Can I use the market as usual?
Thanks & Cheers
Michael
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YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET OTA!!!!!! STEP WAWY FROM OTA!!!!!!! DO NOT download OTA's if you have acustom rom!!!!!!! CLEAR ???????!!!!!!
What people don't seem to realise sometimes is that there is a difference between S-off and rooting. With the old Desire it was root first then S-off, which was a safer environment for a noob or the perpetually impetuously stupid. Root gives you Administrator access, like on a PC rather than a guest account, but S-off allows total control over system and data partitions for instance and a whole shed full of stuff that even some dev's don't regularly need. Be careful with S-off!
STEP AWAY FROM THE OTA!

@infernalByte: this is true for custom roms.. but no for s-off & root - right?
@ben_pyett: RUU is the recovery mode from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130004 ? If its as easy I could try and than just restore the backup... but I would need to install all applications again on the custom rom right?

chaelli said:
@ben_pyett: RUU is the recovery mode from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130004 ? If its as easy I could try and than just restore the backup... but I would need to install all applications again on the custom rom right?
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If you install a custom you shouldn't apply OTA updates. The person who created the custom ROM in the first place will often incorporate the OTA updates within the next release of their ROM.
No RUU, is a ROM Update Utility which is a program that you run on your PC to install a ROM. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
Although to be able to try a custom you must first use the AlphaRexv software to make your phone S-OFF.
If you then wish to take a backup of your stock you will additionally need to install a recovery like clock work mod (CWM) or the EXT4 one as you listed above. You will also need to use the ginger break software to get root on your phone before you can take a full useful backup (a Nandroid backup).
Yes after installing custom you would need to install all applications.
I suggest that you use the appbrain site and the application to manage your market applications..its assists re-installs.
I also would suggest that you don't rush into any of this.....you should read around the forum for a few more days until you are perfectly happy with what you are doing, ask more questions if needed.

chaelli said:
@infernalByte: this is true for custom roms.. but no for s-off & root - right?
@ben_pyett: RUU is the recovery mode from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130004 ? If its as easy I could try and than just restore the backup... but I would need to install all applications again on the custom rom right?
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The HTC OTA is not expecting you to be rooted. STEP AWAY FROM THE OTA!
An RUU is a HTC's Routine User Utility and they are what HTC's techies use to fix phones, RUU's are easy to administer but it will wipe EVERYTHING of your phone, data, your rom, your Hboot, some of them will even change your radio. EVERYTHING. Use an RUU and you will no longer be rooted or S-off.

Damn, beaten to it!!

thank you two for the additional information.. so RUU is a last resort.. usually I could use the backup I created with ext4.
I'm going to read some more about the different roms and decide if I want to try one...

chaelli said:
thank you two for the additional information.. so RUU is a last resort.. usually I could use the backup I created with ext4.
I'm going to read some more about the different roms and decide if I want to try one...
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Your welcome.
As for flashing roms; you may as well try one. At the moment all roms bar one that I can find use Sense, so all shouldn't look that different from HTC stock. Miui is the exception, it is AOSP (Android Open Source Project) and looks radically different from what your used too.
Just do a Nandroid back up, then you can always wipe and restore.

RUU=ROM Upgrade Utility. It's just a way of flashing stock ROM to phone via usb connection with pc.
Sent from my HTC Desire S

Last stupid question (hopefully : nandroid backup is what I do in the restore menu when I choose "backup"
And a follow up.. sd-card contents are not backuped and also not overwritten when installing custom roms? But I still need to reinstall the apps on there?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App

chaelli said:
Last stupid question (hopefully : nandroid backup is what I do in the restore menu when I choose "backup"
And a follow up.. sd-card contents are not backuped and also not overwritten when installing custom roms? But I still need to reinstall the apps on there?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
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yes sd card contents are not backed up
& you need to reinstall the apps from your sd card,the apps from the old rom are replaced with the apps from the new rom

You can do 1 and 3, I don't think you can do 2 if you remove the udpate file from the ROM.

After rooting I still receive OTA updates (Arabic support)
Will there be any effect if I install it?
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[Q] Unroot

Can someone point me to a fullproof easy to follow guide to unroot a sensation? I have the stock rom, never changed it besides the new recovery thing. Also, will I lose anything like pics, txts, contacts, or apps?

MANTI5 said:
Can someone point me to a fullproof easy to follow guide to unroot a sensation? I have the stock rom, never changed it besides the new recovery thing. Also, will I lose anything like pics, txts, contacts, or apps?
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Firstly, yes you will lose everything.
To get your phone back to stock you will need to flash the appropriate RUU from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
Once you have done that you need to follow the Revolutionary guide to get your device back to S-On. This guide can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300

MANTI5 said:
Can someone point me to a fullproof easy to follow guide to unroot a sensation? I have the stock rom, never changed it besides the new recovery thing. Also, will I lose anything like pics, txts, contacts, or apps?
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Hi,
If you back all those things up onto your sd card,there is no reason why you would lose them.

malybru said:
Hi,
If you back all those things up onto your sd card,there is no reason why you would lose them.
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Obviously! But in terms of losing stuff off the phone - everything will go once the RUU is flashed.

dr9722 said:
Obviously! But in terms of losing stuff off the phone - everything will go once the RUU is flashed.
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Hi,
Sorry,I wasn't trying to be clever,but sometimes you have to "State-the-bleedin'-obvious",so that you are sure that people understand.

Thank you. I have Titanium Backup so I use that to back everything up and once I get it back to stock I have to redownload TB to restore? Also, what are the things I need to backup besides the obvious apps that will be deleted? There's a TON of things listed in TB that can be backed up. I just really want contacts, pics, and apps and don't want to miss something because it was named oddly.

Cant use TB when unrooted.
Pictures - already on the SD card.
Contacts - Export to SD card if not on your google account.
Texts - SMS backup and restore from the market.
edit: Dont think you can back up apps without root? Not sure if 'backup everything' works without root, only used TB

MANTI5 said:
Thank you. I have Titanium Backup so I use that to back everything up and once I get it back to stock I have to redownload TB to restore? Also, what are the things I need to backup besides the obvious apps that will be deleted? There's a TON of things listed in TB that can be backed up. I just really want contacts, pics, and apps and don't want to miss something because it was named oddly.
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Hi,
If you intend to unroot,then you should consider backing up your stuff with an app or program that does NOT require root.
Titanium Backup requires root..

Ok, thanks for all the help.

Rooting

Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
Thanks

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usmaak said:
Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
Thanks
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The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.

zenboy444 said:
The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.
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A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?

Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app

usmaak said:
A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?
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You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.

The big reason I rooted was to uninstall all the bloatware and the ability to back everything up. That right there should be enough for anyone. As far as the ota, you should be able to, just expect to lose root as I've seen in other cases.

OnceAMatrixMan said:
Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
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No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.

Quacker said:
You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.
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I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.

usmaak said:
I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.
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In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.

Quacker said:
In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.
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I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.

Quacker said:
No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.
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I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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usmaak said:
I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.
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You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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OnceAMatrixMan said:
I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.

Quacker said:
You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.
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So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?

usmaak said:
So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?
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Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.

I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984

nufan said:
I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984
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Doesn't the counter only get tripped when you flash a ROM? Just rooting won't trip it, will it?

Quacker said:
Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.
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One more question, and I am off to give it a try. Is there any way to uproot the phone once it is rooted? You know, just in case I need to bring it in for service if something goes wrong with it.

rooting S III 4.1.1
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!

newtodroid_1 said:
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!
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Nope they both are ics only. Here it's the only way right now for jb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35418324
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