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Hello,
How are you?
So, I have my new sensation. So far, I'm pretty happy with the phone.
The only thing is that it came with some apps I don't want but can't remove.
Said apps like vodafone music, 360 shop, Tetris trial, dice, etc...
I would really like to clear my phone of said apps.
I don't want to install custom ROM however.
I am more than happy with the stock and would like to be able to receive future official Ota updates.
I read that titanium backup can remove said apps.
My question is of it removes them completely?
Also. for it to work, I read it needs the phone to be rooted.
So, does rooting my sensation, prevent Ota updates?
If I just root the phone and keep everything else stock will I be able to use titanium backup and still receive Ota official updates?
Please help me out.
Thank you.
Cheers!
With Titanium Backup you can remove apps, or use a Startup Manager" to prevent apps from start.
If you gain root acces you will not be able to receive OTA upgrades/updates anymore.
jkolner said:
With Titanium Backup you can remove apps, or use a Startup Manager" to prevent apps from start.
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If I use the startup manager, will the apps still be on the app tray?
Cheers!
JJnJ said:
If you gain root acces you will not be able to receive OTA upgrades/updates anymore.
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Bummer...
Will this happen even on stock recovery?
Cheers!
Yeah, I would recommend rooting and flashing a custom rom that's basically stock but it's just been slightly improved. That way it's nice and clean, and updated.
sshede said:
Yeah, I would recommend rooting and flashing a custom rom that's basically stock but it's just been slightly improved. That way it's nice and clean, and updated.
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What would be a rom like that?
Thanks!
Cheers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360519
That's TMX SS 4G. Frankly, it's one of the smoothest roms I've ever used and there aren't any visual changes or anything like that. The photos are really bright for some reason, but the rom is perfect.
you really dont have to flash a custom rom if you dont want too,
you can simply gain s-off, super CID, and root and still stay with your stock rom if you wanted, and still be able to remove all the bloatware you want
but as anyone once you gain root and s-off and start looking at the Dev threads you see lot a goodies you want to try and use
ilostchild said:
you really dont have to flash a custom rom if you dont want too,
you can simply gain s-off, super CID, and root and still stay with your stock rom if you wanted, and still be able to remove all the bloatware you want
but as anyone once you gain root and s-off and start looking at the Dev threads you see lot a goodies you want to try and use
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Now I'm confused...
If I gain root access, can I get it free of all the bloatware, and keep everything else stock...
I also saw a few guides here, but I am also co fused with the information overload.
Can i root the phone and install a sensation xe room with 1.5ghz CPU and everything else stock?
Cheers!
If you gain root..you can just keep the ROM as is..and use Titanium Backup to freeze or delete any of the bloatwares you don't want. Freezing is probably best so you won't mess anything up. If you don't like the ROM at all...then you can flash the custom one. I pretty much just froze the programs all along, until recently when trying to check out the ICS. Back up a Nandroid of your unchanged ROM, and you can always go back to it.
Freezing your apps does not remove them.
The easiest way to remove while wanting to stay STOCK, is to simply root your phone...install Root Explorer from the Market...delete the apk files from /system/app and /data/app that you do not want...then unroot.
troby86 said:
Freezing your apps does not remove them.
The easiest way to remove while wanting to stay STOCK, is to simply root your phone...install Root Explorer from the Market...delete the apk files from /system/app and /data/app that you do not want...then unroot.
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Now this sounds good...
Are there any guides for this on sea?
There are so many threads on android development, I don't know wich to follow...
Cheers!
gdourado said:
Now this sounds good...
Are there any guides for this on sea?
There are so many threads on android development, I don't know wich to follow...
Cheers!
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Just follow this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
It will probably take you about an hour to complete, depending on how experienced you are, but you do not need to complete the SuperCID portion since you are not flashing anything.
Step 5 will tell you how to revert everything once you have deleted your APKs.
FOLLOW EVERYTHING CLOSELY!!!
BTW...is there a reason you do not want to stay rooted?
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gdourado said:
Now this sounds good...
Are there any guides for this on sea?
There are so many threads on android development, I don't know wich to follow...
Cheers!
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Also, you can try the Temp-Root method here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1149998
This bypasses alot of steps, but provides temporary root, it might allow you to delete the APKs with Root Explorer, haven't tried, but I see no reason why it shouldn't.
Another option for me would be to root the phone and install a custom rom.
The thing is there are so many roms, I don't know which to use.
I would like a sensation xe rom, as stock as possible and bloatware free.
With the CPU at 1.5.
What's the best rom for that?
Cheers!
I think as long as you keep stock recovery you can still get ota updates.
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JJnJ said:
If you gain root acces you will not be able to receive OTA upgrades/updates anymore.
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NOT TRUE. If you are rooted, you can still get OTA. I know, I did it to my N1. It's just that it might not update if you have a custom recovery. and IF you update with an OTA, it will most probably unroot the device.
Well if you really want to stay stock, that's not a problem. Just follow the guides out there to S-OFF and root, they're very straight forward. After that, use Titanium Backup to remove them from your phone - there's really no need to freeze bloatware, you'd really only want to freeze actual system applications just in case, but I don't think removing Amazon MP3 from your phone will cause an OS crash.
Things like Facebook, Twitter, Amazon Kindle, etc etc can be safely removed from the system permanently.
sshede said:
Well if you really want to stay stock, that's not a problem. Just follow the guides out there to S-OFF and root, they're very straight forward. After that, use Titanium Backup to remove them from your phone - there's really no need to freeze bloatware, you'd really only want to freeze actual system applications just in case, but I don't think removing Amazon MP3 from your phone will cause an OS crash.
Things like Facebook, Twitter, Amazon Kindle, etc etc can be safely removed from the system permanently.
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So, should I follow the s-off and root guide? Or do the permanent root?
Can you point me to the correct guide?
Thanks.
Been reading some more...
What if I debrand my sensation.
S-off, cid to HTC_001
And then install a stock ruu.
That would do it right?
No vodafone bloatware and Ota updates, right?
Does stock ruu come with Simms trial, Tetris trial?
Cheers!
Guys is there any way to delete at&t apps....
Thank u
Go to settings->apps->all apps and disable them. You might have to uninstall updates first
GuyIncognito721 said:
Go to settings->apps->all apps and disable them. You might have to uninstall updates first
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This works with most apps except AT&T ready2go or whatever it's called.
If you want all the AT&T stuff off root, get titanium backup, back up the apps, and then freeze or delete.
vioalas said:
This works with most apps except AT&T ready2go or whatever it's called.
If you want all the AT&T stuff off root, get titanium backup, back up the apps, and then freeze or delete.
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TB will attempt to delete in Chuck Norris mode, often unsuccessful. If you are rooted there are multiple ways to delete the ATT bloat including some scripts. Check the developer forum.
raghavmyadam said:
Guys is there any way to delete at&t apps....
Thank u
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Do you plan to root ur device ? If yes then when u install custom Rom, carrier bloatware is removed or if you want to be on stock while rooted and remove blootware then you need flash mod
From beast called HTC One X
This is my first android and it took me a week and a half to decide to root and unlock and man am I glad I did! It gets rid of the att garbage and gives you a number of options and upgrades. Root your phone and unlock bootloader, all the direction and help you need is right here.
Thanks for the info to disable them.
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I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
If is the same old story. If you root, you can customize to your heart's content and have access to new things sooner. However, you void your warranty and can't take OTAs if you root. I wouldn't chance waiting to do it later of you are going to do it, chances are Verizon will close the exploit that is currently used and you may never get the access that you have the opportunity to have right now.
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What are your needs? This is really a question only you can answer.
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If you found your way to XDA, then ROOT, ROOT, ROOT!!!!
All i used root for on my Bionic was to block ads and acess to more of the phones files. The bootlader was still locked so that is all we could do. On my Droid Eris I changed cpu speeds a ton of files. So I am debating.
Is there a way to get back to stock similar to FXZ?
Root. It adds so much more fun to owning the phone, and the variety in ROM's are great for the S3.
You can root and leave it at that to block ads and use wireless hotspot. Two main reasons I root initially. Then I get bored and go the custom roms route.
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waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.
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jellywiz and it's great! It is completely stock. AND ALL of the apps like media hub work. I tired cm 10 and didn't like it. I lost so much like the swipe hand across the screen for screen shot, video while texting, mediahub, nfl mobile here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853337
Battery was about 90% of stock which I think is great.
buhohitr said:
Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.
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Thats what I wanted to know, if it is easy to return to stock. Ill root when i get back to my dorms. I forgot my cord and im in class
If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing
I forgot about that is the official google tether apk in the play store yet?
You can delete failbook, that is REASON enough to root.
Google has a tethering apk? Where is it?
binkies said:
If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing
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You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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jonapunk said:
You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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Only people on shared data plans can do it for free
Just use FoxFi or pdaNET... Both work and are free 99!
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waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Root, then download the rooted OTA. I love to tinker with my phone all day
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I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest
ooofest said:
I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest
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There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.
buhohitr said:
There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.
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True, but I'm banking on a forthcoming method to obtain root after the OTA hits. Maybe somehow backlevel to a stock ICS build and root from there, etc. Or, maybe I'll never get root back after the OTA hits. Guess we'll see.
- ooofest
Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
Thanks
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usmaak said:
Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
Thanks
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The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.
zenboy444 said:
The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.
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A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?
Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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usmaak said:
A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?
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You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.
The big reason I rooted was to uninstall all the bloatware and the ability to back everything up. That right there should be enough for anyone. As far as the ota, you should be able to, just expect to lose root as I've seen in other cases.
OnceAMatrixMan said:
Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.
Quacker said:
You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.
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I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.
usmaak said:
I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.
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In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.
Quacker said:
In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.
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I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.
Quacker said:
No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.
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I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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usmaak said:
I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.
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You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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OnceAMatrixMan said:
I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.
Quacker said:
You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.
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So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?
usmaak said:
So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?
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Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.
I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984
nufan said:
I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984
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Doesn't the counter only get tripped when you flash a ROM? Just rooting won't trip it, will it?
Quacker said:
Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.
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One more question, and I am off to give it a try. Is there any way to uproot the phone once it is rooted? You know, just in case I need to bring it in for service if something goes wrong with it.
rooting S III 4.1.1
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!
newtodroid_1 said:
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!
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Nope they both are ics only. Here it's the only way right now for jb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35418324
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I wondering if it's possible to install the Venom Rom without installing the Verizon variant bloatware and Verizon sim checker. I'm currently using the M8 Overseas (GUAM) and GSM runs fine and I'm about to add on LTE Unlimited Data, so the Verizon apps are useless to me.
So If I Super CID will the rom still know my default is Verizon? What would be the best solution? Also since I cannot do OTA updates for Verizon how would I update my firmware? Manual Flash?
Hyperboost said:
I wondering if it's possible to install the Venom Rom without installing the Verizon variant bloatware and Verizon sim checker.
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If you can install the Venom ROM that means you're rooted with S = OFF so you can remove anything you feel is bloatware with no problems, it doesn't matter what ROM you're on.
Also since I cannot do OTA updates for Verizon how would I update my firmware? Manual Flash?
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If you do update the firmware or accept an OTA I'm sure it will unroot your phone, lock the bootloader and turn S = ON and knowing VZW they may succeed in locking it down so it can't every be unlocked again, they managed this with Samsung phones so the question is, WHY would you EVER want to update your firmware?
Any new features that come with updates will be included in custom ROMs by the developers so you won't be missing anything.
xs11e said:
If you can install the Venom ROM that means you're rooted with S = OFF so you can remove anything you feel is bloatware with no problems, it doesn't matter what ROM you're on.
If you do update the firmware or accept an OTA I'm sure it will unroot your phone, lock the bootloader and turn S = ON and knowing VZW they may succeed in locking it down so it can't every be unlocked again, they managed this with Samsung phones so the question is, WHY would you EVER want to update your firmware?
Any new features that come with updates will be included in custom ROMs by the developers so you won't be missing anything.
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Im 99.9999% sure applying an update wouldnt go through since you are S-Off and even if it did, it wouldnt remove S-Off. Only way to return to S-On is by flashing RUU, which isnt even out yet.
I'm not sure the OP is rooted with S = Off, I may have misread his post.
xs11e said:
I'm not sure the OP is rooted with S = Off, I may have misread his post.
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Thanks for the replies! I am S-Off, I must of misunderstood the Venom Rom 1.2.0 Update it said OTA Carrier Support. I guess that has something to do with the apps. I'm not to sure where to start in removing the Verizon Sim checker thing and Verizon apps... I was just hoping that I can do another Rom Flash that would get rid of the bloatware.
Hyperboost said:
Thanks for the replies! I am S-Off, I must of misunderstood the Venom Rom 1.2.0 Update it said OTA Carrier Support. I guess that has something to do with the apps. I'm not to sure where to start in removing the Verizon Sim checker thing and Verizon apps... I was just hoping that I can do another Rom Flash that would get rid of the bloatware.
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Go into the .zip of the ROM and remove the files you don't want.
Or,
install root explorer, and delete the said files from system/app + system/priv-app
Hyperboost said:
I must of misunderstood the Venom Rom 1.2.0 Update it said OTA Carrier Support
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That means that Team Venom provides updates for their ROM OTA, not Verizon updates.
I was just hoping that I can do another Rom Flash that would get rid of the bloatware.
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Just uninstall anything you don't want, there are several threads about which apps can be removed. NOTE: AFAIK all the Verizon apps can be removed with no problems.
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That means that Team Venom provides updates for their ROM OTA, not Verizon updates.
Just uninstall anything you don't want, there are several threads about which apps can be removed. NOTE: AFAIK all the Verizon apps can be removed with no problems.
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Thanks again! I'm starting to see things more clearly. I'll try to un-install the Verizon Apps. Found another issue with Venom ROM OTA System update under settings → system update The Check now is Grayed out and states "Software update only work in CDMA Mode" When I switch to CDMA and try to use my WIFI to update it says download unsuccessful. Guess I just have to download the updates and just manually install it.
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That means that Team Venom provides updates for their ROM OTA, not Verizon updates.
This may be a dumb question but when they do issue updates how does one go about getting them?
Sent from my HTC6525LVW using xda app-developers app
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elevatorguy said:
xs11e said:
That means that Team Venom provides updates for their ROM OTA, not Verizon updates.
This may be a dumb question but when they do issue updates how does one go about getting them?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2705292
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That doesn't help to much the page the link sends me to is talking about not working on T-Mobile
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Hyperboost said:
Thanks for the replies! I am S-Off, I must of misunderstood the Venom Rom 1.2.0 Update it said OTA Carrier Support. I guess that has something to do with the apps. I'm not to sure where to start in removing the Verizon Sim checker thing and Verizon apps... I was just hoping that I can do another Rom Flash that would get rid of the bloatware.
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ViperOne uses Aroma installer when you first install the "base" ROM... there are options along the way before the ROM flashes where you can selectively choose not to install certain Apps that are considered bloat (though I don't recall if the apps you don't want are listed). Worst case, you can use a file explorer (as others have posted), or even an App like Titanium Backup would allow you to Freeze/Uninstall anything you don't want. Sometimes, people have created simple scripts that send ADB commands to delete bloat... not sure if anyone has for the M8 though.
As far as "OTA," if you don't have stock recovery, you could try to install the VZW OTA updates, but it won't take as it only will flash using stock recovery (if my memory serves me well). Team Venom is one of the few ROM development teams that have their own OTA updates, but it has nothing to do with Verizon's OTA updates. With the M7 Verizon, I had to flash my OTA files via Recovery as I don't think Team Venom was able to get the Settings>About>Software Update to work. I was told that the OTA works on the M8 with Verizon phones, though I haven't tried it yet.
If Verizon releases an OTA that updates Radios or Firmware, it's best to wait for someone to release a flashable version for those that are S-off/rooted. I don't believe that any of the major carriers have released an OTA update with the phone being so new anyway.
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ViperOne uses Aroma...
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Thanks for the reply! This phone is great, upgraded from my HOX international version with Team Venom Rom. So it's my first time dealing with a carrier based phone. I wish I knew how to remove the Verizon SIM check thing for the Viper One Rom. " The SIM Card is from an Unkown Source".