I wonder why nobody create a stock root tmobile rom for our 1S. The only option i can find is a nandroid stock root 1.84 but it's only for CWM( there is a lot problem to do restore with that nandroid ) , not for TWRP?
It will take you about a minute to flash cwm. Use it to flash the nandroid after which you can go back to twrp recovery.
Make a nandroid with twrp.
baseballfanz said:
It will take you about a minute to flash cwm. Use it to flash the nandroid after which you can go back to twrp recovery.
Make a nandroid with twrp.
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yeah, i know that method. i just curious why we don't have a stock root rom in our phone section? I used to have dell streak/vibrant/captivate/mytouch 4g/sensation/samsung s3(now)..all of them have stock root rom. It's just more convenient. :laugh:
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Could ROM Manager fake Flash Clockworkmod recovery be responsible for bricking phones on LG update? Let me explain what I mean - Lots of people, like myself, installed ROM Manager and its CWM because we did not know it's not real Flash. Then We switched to "real" CWM. Now the question is when we do normal stock recovery in order to get official GB update, does this CWM of ROM manager still remains in the phone? If so, could it be that it contributed to the troubles updating through LG tool? How can I make sure I removed it from the phone?
Thanks!
Yes. Many people have confirmed that not having the stock recovery on the device is a road to Bricksville. Even though you are fake flashed there is code inserted somewhere to redirect to the fake flash, and the recovery images for flash (normally installed every boot) have been deleted or renamed. You should flash stock recovery with NVFlasher to make sure you are back at a clean stock recovery before using the LG Update tool.
Thanks but what I mean is that AFTER I realized it's fake flash I installed "real" CWM. So when I do stock on this "real", does CWM rom manager still remains in the phone and how can I remove it?
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so I am a little confused I used CWM to make a backup before I did anything to my phone. And I was already on the 2.3.3 lg update. So if I restore that I should be back to stock and CWM should still be there right? But lets say LG comes out with another update (Doubtful) and I want to use it I should use the NVflash to reture the phone to stock? if I use NVflash will that put me back on froyo 2.2.2 or GB 2.3.3?
Also I used rom manager to make a backup of the rom I was on which was the stock rooted so is that fake or what the hell is fake? is it the first option in rom manager the CWM recovery? is it the same if I use CWM stock recovery? in cwn itself? Oh I am so confused someone help me
ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.
jboxer said:
ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.
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I have BOTH - CWM AND CWM through the ROM Manager. So if use NV Flash to go to stock, is the CWM from ROM manager still in the phone and how can I remove it?
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so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
Charlie
mojorisin7178 said:
so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
Charlie
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Thanks but my questions are:
1. If I go to stock using NV Flasher, is ROM Manager's CWM still going to be in the phone, since I have BOTH?
2. Can it BRICK my phone if I do the LG update then?
3. How can I make sure I removed BOTH - NV Flash CWM AND ROM Manager CWM?
I have a question about CWM. I installed it on my stock rom and now it says unable to mount /system. will i be able to flash other custom roms? and if i can how to make a backup of current rom?
p.s. i made a backup of all my apps via Titanium Backup Pro, and if i install it on new rom will it be able to restore those apps there? and does flashing a kernel and rom changes my baseband version?
choose the backup option from cwm menu.
lomash said:
choose the backup option from cwm menu.
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And do you know an answer for other questions?
no you need to re-install all apps from the android market.
after re-installation, you can restore your saved data like high scores/achievements and all.
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The cwm doesnt work for stock roms because tj style has clearly mentioned that the recovery wont work custom or stock rom using rfs file systems.....you cant do backup using cwm..you can only backup boot and recovery image...to backup apps use appmonster pro......the apps will be backed up in your sd then after flashing your new rom you can install them from sd....you can flash custom roms...
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The cwm doesnt work for stock roms because tj style has clearly mentioned that the recovery wont work custom or stock rom using rfs file systems.....you cant do backup using cwm..you can only backup boot and recovery image...to backup apps use appmonster pro......the apps will be backed up in your sd then after flashing your new rom you can install them from sd....you can flash custom roms...
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thanks! and i pressed thanks button!
Is there any way to get a stock rom to dump on cwm? I mean like use the stock rom as a backup so i dont have to flash with odin :S
plz help
i rooted my galaxy fit via update_1. zip method .then i tried to install cwm recovery tj style via odin bt it dint installed n my phone is stuck..plz help
vikas1038 said:
i rooted my galaxy fit via update_1. zip method .then i tried to install cwm recovery tj style via odin bt it dint installed n my phone is stuck..plz help
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That happen to me..ill guide you to what i did.. i think you miss out on restartiong phone before flashing cwm..just flash your phone again with original stock.. let it boot and restar..then add the root zip and restar in recovery..update it and let it boot normally.. restar again and flash cwm with odin.. and let it boot..
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Is there any way to get a stock rom to dump on cwm? I mean like use the stock rom as a backup so i dont have to flash with odin :S
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no, because stock rom has rfs file system, so cwm cant make a backup of stock systems, but after you flash the custom rom you can create a backup of any custom rom that supports ext4 file system... and if you want to make a backup of your installed apps use titanium backup, it worked best for me, and you can use it on any rom...
whatever appmonster can do, titanium can do as well...
why have two apps, when one does the entire job (and even more)??
also, backups made by titanium (apk as well as data) are compressed...so you get a little more space on your card...
Question regarding going back to stock,
I installed CleanRom and feel like it's using more battery than stock bloated.
Can I use CWM recovery to go back to stock nandroid that I made?
So I followed the methods on this forum to install the ROM,
Root,
install CWM,
make nandroid backup
unlock bootloader,
flash Cleanrom
Can I use the nandroid that i made to go back to rooted stock rom? or do I have to go back completely?
You should be fine using the nandroid as long as you do a full wipe beforehand.... If you run into problems you'll just have to Odin back to stock.
Hi,
Before I flashed my first rom, I backed up the stock OS, and I still have it. If I wanted to flash it back onto my phone, can I just use the ClockworkMod recovery and choose restore? I know after that it will still have an unlocked bootloader and will be rooted, but I just wanna know if I need to use RUU to flash the stock rom which I still have because I backed it up.
Thanks!
elias.acab said:
Hi,
Before I flashed my first rom, I backed up the stock OS, and I still have it. If I wanted to flash it back onto my phone, can I just use the ClockworkMod recovery and choose restore? I know after that it will still have an unlocked bootloader and will be rooted, but I just wanna know if I need to use RUU to flash the stock rom which I still have because I backed it up.
Thanks!
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I am assuming you made the backup of the stock with ClockworkMod.
Yes, you can restore it and do not have to RUU and you will be fine. Most likely you have fastboot flashed a new boot.img when you installed the new Rom. If you are S-on a restore will not be able to change your boot.img back.
You will need to fastboot flash the backup's boot.img.
This is why it is good to have your backup on your pc. When you open that backup file on your pc, you will see the boot.img file that you need to flash.
If you have changed your recovery or updated it you most likely will have to flash the recovery that made the backup.
The exceptions to the rule would be something like: Maximus HD, where you would need to downgrade your firmware, clear storage in bootloader when you have the stock recovery installed. Reinstall your custom recovery and restore your backup.
tivofool said:
I am assuming you made the backup of the stock with ClockworkMod.
Yes, you can restore it and do not have to RUU and you will be fine. Most likely you have fastboot flashed a new boot.img when you installed the new Rom. If you are S-on a restore will not be able to change your boot.img back.
You will need to fastboot flash the backup's boot.img.
This is why it is good to have your backup on your pc. When you open that backup file on your pc, you will see the boot.img file that you need to flash.
If you have changed your recovery or updated it you most likely will have to flash the recovery that made the backup.
The exceptions to the rule would be something like: Maximus HD, where you would need to downgrade your firmware, clear storage in bootloader when you have the stock recovery installed. Reinstall your custom recovery and restore your backup.
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Yes! I made it with clockworkmod, thanks, I will try that!
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I have the Verizon Galaxy S3.
I had no modifications on my phone at all; it was stock everything. I wanted to install Hyperdrive on the phone so I went through the usual steps.
1) Root
2) Flash CWM
3) Create nandroid back up within CWM
4) Flash Hyperdrive ROM
I used Hyperdrive for a few weeks, but then I wanted to go back to stock, so I restored my backup. I was on stock for another few months and then OTA updates started coming in. I know that I cannot install OTA updates with a custom recovery. (I assumed I still had CWM)
So here is the thing...I thought that the backup I made was in the state of being rooted with CWM and stock ROM. So I assumed that after restoring the backup, I was rooted with CWM and stock ROM. So I double checked and found that I was not rooted and I had stock recovery installed. Does anyone know how this happened?
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I have the Verizon Galaxy S3.
I had no modifications on my phone at all; it was stock everything. I wanted to install Hyperdrive on the phone so I went through the usual steps.
1) Root
2) Flash CWM
3) Create nandroid back up within CWM
4) Flash Hyperdrive ROM
I used Hyperdrive for a few weeks, but then I wanted to go back to stock, so I restored my backup. I was on stock for another few months and then OTA updates started coming in. I know that I cannot install OTA updates with a custom recovery. (I assumed I still had CWM)
So here is the thing...I thought that the backup I made was in the state of being rooted with CWM and stock ROM. So I assumed that after restoring the backup, I was rooted with CWM and stock ROM. So I double checked and found that I was not rooted and I had stock recovery installed. Does anyone know how this happened?
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After you rooted and installed CWM did you let your phone bootup first, then boot back down into CWM then do the backup? Seems like you didn't do that. Your Root, CWM did not loaded when you run the CWM backup.
longphant said:
I have the Verizon Galaxy S3.
I had no modifications on my phone at all; it was stock everything. I wanted to install Hyperdrive on the phone so I went through the usual steps.
1) Root
2) Flash CWM
3) Create nandroid back up within CWM
4) Flash Hyperdrive ROM
I used Hyperdrive for a few weeks, but then I wanted to go back to stock, so I restored my backup. I was on stock for another few months and then OTA updates started coming in. I know that I cannot install OTA updates with a custom recovery. (I assumed I still had CWM)
So here is the thing...I thought that the backup I made was in the state of being rooted with CWM and stock ROM. So I assumed that after restoring the backup, I was rooted with CWM and stock ROM. So I double checked and found that I was not rooted and I had stock recovery installed. Does anyone know how this happened?
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It does not backup your recovery, but you can backup your recovery partition separately. If you restore to stock it will still nag you to update. To stop it you need to freeze sdm1.0 and rename fwupdater.apk.
The update should fail, but if you're unlucky it'll go through enough to lock you down and stick you on 4.3. So either change the rom as soon as possible or freeze and rename the apks.
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I believe I used a 1 step script to root and install my recovery. Something very similar to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332825
I had my phone booted up, plugged into my PC and I allowed the 1-click script root it install CWM. Then I rebooted into CWM, and did a backup. So by not rebooting my phone after doing all this, then the root and CWM were not in the backup? Why is that the case? if I am able to boot into CWM, doesn't that mean the CWM already sits in my recovery partition? Thus, if I do a backup of it, shouldn't I get CWM in the recovery?
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I believe I used a 1 step script to root and install my recovery. Something very similar to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332825
I had my phone booted up, plugged into my PC and I allowed the 1-click script root it install CWM. Then I rebooted into CWM, and did a backup. So by not rebooting my phone after doing all this, then the root and CWM were not in the backup? Why is that the case? if I am able to boot into CWM, doesn't that mean the CWM already sits in my recovery partition? Thus, if I do a backup of it, shouldn't I get CWM in the recovery?
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A nandroid doesn't backup your recovery, only your data, sd card, and caches. It's the same cwm installed by casual.
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If that's the case, then how could I possibly be on stock recovery? I definitely needed CWM to install Hyperdrive and to create the Nandroid backup that I used to restore.
Currently I'm not running latest cwm, but I'm runing TWRP and it does backup recovery and efs by default. I'm sure that cwm can do the same but is it set by default? I don't know. here the info I found on cwm:
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/3563/image6resize.png
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Currently I'm not running latest cwm, but I'm runing TWRP and it does backup recovery and efs by default. I'm sure that cwm can do the same but is it set by default? I don't know. here the info I found on cwm:
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/3563/image6resize.png
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Some roms are capable of reinstalling a stock recovery. Sometimes if it's not taken out of a rom, it will sense you have a custom recovery and reinstall the stock recovery over it.
Most of the time it's taken out of the touchwiz roms, but I guess in this case it wasn't.
That's the only way it could happen.
Additionally, that isn't even cwm, that's philz touch recovery, those features are unique to that recovery only.
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