I have the Verizon Galaxy S3.
I had no modifications on my phone at all; it was stock everything. I wanted to install Hyperdrive on the phone so I went through the usual steps.
1) Root
2) Flash CWM
3) Create nandroid back up within CWM
4) Flash Hyperdrive ROM
I used Hyperdrive for a few weeks, but then I wanted to go back to stock, so I restored my backup. I was on stock for another few months and then OTA updates started coming in. I know that I cannot install OTA updates with a custom recovery. (I assumed I still had CWM)
So here is the thing...I thought that the backup I made was in the state of being rooted with CWM and stock ROM. So I assumed that after restoring the backup, I was rooted with CWM and stock ROM. So I double checked and found that I was not rooted and I had stock recovery installed. Does anyone know how this happened?
longphant said:
I have the Verizon Galaxy S3.
I had no modifications on my phone at all; it was stock everything. I wanted to install Hyperdrive on the phone so I went through the usual steps.
1) Root
2) Flash CWM
3) Create nandroid back up within CWM
4) Flash Hyperdrive ROM
I used Hyperdrive for a few weeks, but then I wanted to go back to stock, so I restored my backup. I was on stock for another few months and then OTA updates started coming in. I know that I cannot install OTA updates with a custom recovery. (I assumed I still had CWM)
So here is the thing...I thought that the backup I made was in the state of being rooted with CWM and stock ROM. So I assumed that after restoring the backup, I was rooted with CWM and stock ROM. So I double checked and found that I was not rooted and I had stock recovery installed. Does anyone know how this happened?
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After you rooted and installed CWM did you let your phone bootup first, then boot back down into CWM then do the backup? Seems like you didn't do that. Your Root, CWM did not loaded when you run the CWM backup.
longphant said:
I have the Verizon Galaxy S3.
I had no modifications on my phone at all; it was stock everything. I wanted to install Hyperdrive on the phone so I went through the usual steps.
1) Root
2) Flash CWM
3) Create nandroid back up within CWM
4) Flash Hyperdrive ROM
I used Hyperdrive for a few weeks, but then I wanted to go back to stock, so I restored my backup. I was on stock for another few months and then OTA updates started coming in. I know that I cannot install OTA updates with a custom recovery. (I assumed I still had CWM)
So here is the thing...I thought that the backup I made was in the state of being rooted with CWM and stock ROM. So I assumed that after restoring the backup, I was rooted with CWM and stock ROM. So I double checked and found that I was not rooted and I had stock recovery installed. Does anyone know how this happened?
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It does not backup your recovery, but you can backup your recovery partition separately. If you restore to stock it will still nag you to update. To stop it you need to freeze sdm1.0 and rename fwupdater.apk.
The update should fail, but if you're unlucky it'll go through enough to lock you down and stick you on 4.3. So either change the rom as soon as possible or freeze and rename the apks.
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I believe I used a 1 step script to root and install my recovery. Something very similar to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332825
I had my phone booted up, plugged into my PC and I allowed the 1-click script root it install CWM. Then I rebooted into CWM, and did a backup. So by not rebooting my phone after doing all this, then the root and CWM were not in the backup? Why is that the case? if I am able to boot into CWM, doesn't that mean the CWM already sits in my recovery partition? Thus, if I do a backup of it, shouldn't I get CWM in the recovery?
longphant said:
I believe I used a 1 step script to root and install my recovery. Something very similar to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332825
I had my phone booted up, plugged into my PC and I allowed the 1-click script root it install CWM. Then I rebooted into CWM, and did a backup. So by not rebooting my phone after doing all this, then the root and CWM were not in the backup? Why is that the case? if I am able to boot into CWM, doesn't that mean the CWM already sits in my recovery partition? Thus, if I do a backup of it, shouldn't I get CWM in the recovery?
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A nandroid doesn't backup your recovery, only your data, sd card, and caches. It's the same cwm installed by casual.
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If that's the case, then how could I possibly be on stock recovery? I definitely needed CWM to install Hyperdrive and to create the Nandroid backup that I used to restore.
Currently I'm not running latest cwm, but I'm runing TWRP and it does backup recovery and efs by default. I'm sure that cwm can do the same but is it set by default? I don't know. here the info I found on cwm:
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/3563/image6resize.png
buhohitr said:
Currently I'm not running latest cwm, but I'm runing TWRP and it does backup recovery and efs by default. I'm sure that cwm can do the same but is it set by default? I don't know. here the info I found on cwm:
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/3563/image6resize.png
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Some roms are capable of reinstalling a stock recovery. Sometimes if it's not taken out of a rom, it will sense you have a custom recovery and reinstall the stock recovery over it.
Most of the time it's taken out of the touchwiz roms, but I guess in this case it wasn't.
That's the only way it could happen.
Additionally, that isn't even cwm, that's philz touch recovery, those features are unique to that recovery only.
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I have rooted my LG G2X and flashed the Clockwork Recovery image using ROM Manager. I have read that this is a "fake flash" but I have booted into recovery using ROM Manager and done a nandroid backup and it seems to work fine? I have a 2 GIG SD installed and it looks like Clockwork only works from the external SD card?
I am running the stock ROM at the moment until I can find a stable custom ROM to use as my daily driver. I want to keep the phone rooted and the recovery image intact until I find a stable custom ROM.
I am looking for the procedure to flash back to stock recovery and unroot if I have to return the phone for repair to T-Mobile in the future. If there is a stock recovery image that can be flashed using clockwork or a one-click method, I would greatly appreciate it.
I have the G2X Model LG P999
If you continue to boot into CWM using RomManager (for now) your stock recovery is still intact. If you want to return to stock from the point you're at, stick the stock nandroid restore image on your sd card and restore it. Then uninstall Titanium Backup and unroot the phone using the SuperOneClick root program. If you would like to continue flashing ROMs I suggest doing a *real* flash of CWM (which you can still reverse in the future) in case you end up in boot loops and cannot access RomManager. All links are below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048274 (Stock NANDROID Restore)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847 (OneClick CWM flasher, can also flash stock recovery)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039985 (SuperOneClick Root, can also unroot)
Could ROM Manager fake Flash Clockworkmod recovery be responsible for bricking phones on LG update? Let me explain what I mean - Lots of people, like myself, installed ROM Manager and its CWM because we did not know it's not real Flash. Then We switched to "real" CWM. Now the question is when we do normal stock recovery in order to get official GB update, does this CWM of ROM manager still remains in the phone? If so, could it be that it contributed to the troubles updating through LG tool? How can I make sure I removed it from the phone?
Thanks!
Yes. Many people have confirmed that not having the stock recovery on the device is a road to Bricksville. Even though you are fake flashed there is code inserted somewhere to redirect to the fake flash, and the recovery images for flash (normally installed every boot) have been deleted or renamed. You should flash stock recovery with NVFlasher to make sure you are back at a clean stock recovery before using the LG Update tool.
Thanks but what I mean is that AFTER I realized it's fake flash I installed "real" CWM. So when I do stock on this "real", does CWM rom manager still remains in the phone and how can I remove it?
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so I am a little confused I used CWM to make a backup before I did anything to my phone. And I was already on the 2.3.3 lg update. So if I restore that I should be back to stock and CWM should still be there right? But lets say LG comes out with another update (Doubtful) and I want to use it I should use the NVflash to reture the phone to stock? if I use NVflash will that put me back on froyo 2.2.2 or GB 2.3.3?
Also I used rom manager to make a backup of the rom I was on which was the stock rooted so is that fake or what the hell is fake? is it the first option in rom manager the CWM recovery? is it the same if I use CWM stock recovery? in cwn itself? Oh I am so confused someone help me
ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.
jboxer said:
ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.
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I have BOTH - CWM AND CWM through the ROM Manager. So if use NV Flash to go to stock, is the CWM from ROM manager still in the phone and how can I remove it?
Thanks!
so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
Charlie
mojorisin7178 said:
so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
Charlie
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Thanks but my questions are:
1. If I go to stock using NV Flasher, is ROM Manager's CWM still going to be in the phone, since I have BOTH?
2. Can it BRICK my phone if I do the LG update then?
3. How can I make sure I removed BOTH - NV Flash CWM AND ROM Manager CWM?
I have:
Infuse
Infused ROM V2
So today I downloaded "ROM Manager" and "ROM Manager Premium" from the market. AFAIK, this means they are up to date as of today.
Then installed CWM Recovery.
Then installed the 3e mod fix.
Then booted to CWM and did a nandroid backup.
Then booted normally.
Then attempted to install MYUI via ROM Manager download.
It bricked the phone.
Restored the phone with Odin.
Rooted.
Then installed both ROM Managers.
Then installed CWM Recovery.
Then installed the 3e mod fix.
Then booted to CWM and did a restore from the new backup done earlier in the day.
Now it just hangs at the Samsung splash screen.
Any ideas? I have a LOT of investment in the backed up ROM and don't want to lose it.
CZ Eddie said:
I have:
Infuse
Infused ROM V2
So today I downloaded "ROM Manager" and "ROM Manager Premium" from the market. AFAIK, this means they are up to date as of today.
Then installed CWM Recovery.
Then installed the 3e mod fix.
Then booted to CWM and did a nandroid backup.
Then booted normally.
Then attempted to install MYUI via ROM Manager download.
It bricked the phone.
Restored the phone with Odin.
Rooted.
Then installed both ROM Managers.
Then installed CWM Recovery.
Then installed the 3e mod fix.
Then booted to CWM and did a restore from the new backup done earlier in the day.
Now it just hangs at the Samsung splash screen.
Any ideas? I have a LOT of investment in the backed up ROM and don't want to lose it.
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I dont know what ALOT of investment is.......but what i think happened here is this<<
You were on Gingerbread right, Infused v2.x.x and you made a Nandroid(thats fine)
u installed miUi and didnt have the luck you wanted...Thats fine
You went back to stock, and rooted and modded the Recovery so you could restore your nandroid....Thats fine
But if you went back to stock(Froyo Right) and try to load up a Gringerbread Nandroid on top it shouldnt work. Nandroids only back up the ROM not the Kernel......so you were in a sense trying to run a Gingerbread Rom on a Stock Froyo Kernel......
Go into CWM flash your Kernel, or use odin and flash a Ginger Kernel then go into CWM and RESTORE.
Happy FLashing
Didn't know that! That may explain a lot of my ROM frustrations.
I'll try this and report back.
Off to go find a suitable kernel....
I really should get my post count up so I can get past this horrible 10 post restriction.
Did you try initiating the flash through CWM or through ROM Manager? Honestly I don't prefer to do any work via ROM Manager, I always have more luck going through CWM and starting a flash from there. Kernel is the first place I'd start but you should also Factory Wipe and Cache Wipe each time you move between ROMs, sometimes you get very lucky and don't need to, most times you bork your phone, and if you're nandroiding back from a backup wiping before you restore is good practice just to make sure you don't leave anything behind from your old ROM.
I installed a gingerbread kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1212485
Version 1.1.
But it didn't work out.
So now I'm fighting with trying to get a stock Infused V2 ROM on there.
No luck yet. Once I do, I'll try the recovery again.
Btw, I'm using CWM for everything.
Go to mounts and storage in clockwork recovery then select format system then do your nand restore ...
Sent from my Samsung Infuse 4G - 1.6ghz
Wow, I was totally making some rookie (which I am) Android mistakes today.
Every time I tried to restore the backup image, I was doing it in CWM by selecting "install .zip from SD card". When I SHOULD have been using the "backup/restore" function.
I'm up & running again. All original apps/settings are restored. Great!
Now to start breaking things again, since I know how to restore from backup now.
Before I go wiping my device again in anticipation of getting the OTA ICS update...
I made a backup of my device when I was on the original Honeycomb build after rooting. I then switched to the Prime ROM. I'm assuming that I can just restore my Honeycomb update, get Root Keeper and install the OTA update. Am I correct, or is there something that will stop me from doing this?
Edit: Also, when restoring a backup using CWM, does it automatically wipe the device before restoring, or does that need to be done manually?
I believe you also need to restore the original recovery. The last time I tried to flash an upgrade on my rooted stock image using CWM, it rebooted after downloading and rejected the (non-stock) recovery. I'm guessing the ICS update will require a reboot into the stock recovery as well.
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I believe you also need to restore the original recovery. The last time I tried to flash an upgrade on my rooted stock image using CWM, it rebooted after downloading and rejected the (non-stock) recovery. I'm guessing the ICS update will require a reboot into the stock recovery as well.
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Indeed, no OTA update when original recovery is not installed.
I looked around a bit and saw how to unroot and restore to stock recovery... is there an easy way to just restore stock recovery? My plan was to restore my stock backup (to get off revolver) and then can go from CWM -> Stock, I just wasn't sure how to do the last part without undoing everything and fully returning to stock/no root.
It's also very possible that Root Keeper will not work since this is a new firmware form the ground up.
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It's also very possible that Root Keeper will not work since this is a new firmware form the ground up.
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OTA Rootkeeper do not work if the system partition is formatted. Which is not the until now. Also people reported OTA rootkeeper worked to get root back after ICS update.
Otherwise use vipermod option 1 to root on ICS.
darkstar107 said:
Before I go wiping my device again in anticipation of getting the OTA ICS update...
I made a backup of my device when I was on the original Honeycomb build after rooting. I then switched to the Prime ROM. I'm assuming that I can just restore my Honeycomb update, get Root Keeper and install the OTA update. Am I correct, or is there something that will stop me from doing this?
Edit: Also, when restoring a backup using CWM, does it automatically wipe the device before restoring, or does that need to be done manually?
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I just did exactly this. I had a nandroid backup of my original stock honeycomb so I restored the backup (I had some problems with the kernel after restoring from Revolver with some OC kernel, but flashing "plain" Revolver and then restoring the stock rom from the backup did the trick).
After that I made sure that everything is OK - I checked that I'm on the correct pieces of the software, in particular the kernel. All looked fine so I pulled OTA update, but before applying it I had to restore stock recovery. For this I used the stock recovery linked in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154947 Just downloaded it, placed it on my SD card, rebooted into CWM recovery and flashed it (pleas note - I only downloaded this single file, not needed to download any other files mentioned n the above thread since I already been on rooted stock rom).
After booting the TF again, I made sure that my root is backed up with Supercurio's Root Keeper, then I applied the OTA and after a few minutes I was happy user of ICSed Transformer.
Please note that what worked in my case may not work in yours though. So be careful, think twice, and keep in mind that it's your decision - your risk (and if something goes wrong - your brick )
BTW, all applications, data, etc. are still in place. Root was restored via Root Keeper. Then I downloaded some updates of applications and so far I'm fine.
Question regarding going back to stock,
I installed CleanRom and feel like it's using more battery than stock bloated.
Can I use CWM recovery to go back to stock nandroid that I made?
So I followed the methods on this forum to install the ROM,
Root,
install CWM,
make nandroid backup
unlock bootloader,
flash Cleanrom
Can I use the nandroid that i made to go back to rooted stock rom? or do I have to go back completely?
You should be fine using the nandroid as long as you do a full wipe beforehand.... If you run into problems you'll just have to Odin back to stock.