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[Q] ROM Manager bricking phones...?

Could ROM Manager fake Flash Clockworkmod recovery be responsible for bricking phones on LG update? Let me explain what I mean - Lots of people, like myself, installed ROM Manager and its CWM because we did not know it's not real Flash. Then We switched to "real" CWM. Now the question is when we do normal stock recovery in order to get official GB update, does this CWM of ROM manager still remains in the phone? If so, could it be that it contributed to the troubles updating through LG tool? How can I make sure I removed it from the phone?
Thanks!

Yes. Many people have confirmed that not having the stock recovery on the device is a road to Bricksville. Even though you are fake flashed there is code inserted somewhere to redirect to the fake flash, and the recovery images for flash (normally installed every boot) have been deleted or renamed. You should flash stock recovery with NVFlasher to make sure you are back at a clean stock recovery before using the LG Update tool.

Thanks but what I mean is that AFTER I realized it's fake flash I installed "real" CWM. So when I do stock on this "real", does CWM rom manager still remains in the phone and how can I remove it?

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so I am a little confused I used CWM to make a backup before I did anything to my phone. And I was already on the 2.3.3 lg update. So if I restore that I should be back to stock and CWM should still be there right? But lets say LG comes out with another update (Doubtful) and I want to use it I should use the NVflash to reture the phone to stock? if I use NVflash will that put me back on froyo 2.2.2 or GB 2.3.3?
Also I used rom manager to make a backup of the rom I was on which was the stock rooted so is that fake or what the hell is fake? is it the first option in rom manager the CWM recovery? is it the same if I use CWM stock recovery? in cwn itself? Oh I am so confused someone help me

ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.

jboxer said:
ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.
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I have BOTH - CWM AND CWM through the ROM Manager. So if use NV Flash to go to stock, is the CWM from ROM manager still in the phone and how can I remove it?
Thanks!

so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
Charlie

mojorisin7178 said:
so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
Charlie
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Thanks but my questions are:
1. If I go to stock using NV Flasher, is ROM Manager's CWM still going to be in the phone, since I have BOTH?
2. Can it BRICK my phone if I do the LG update then?
3. How can I make sure I removed BOTH - NV Flash CWM AND ROM Manager CWM?

[Q] Converting CWM backup to flash zip ??

Hi everyone! I aware that maybe this is a stupid question, but i have to ask...Is there a way to convert a CWM backup to a flash zip to use with the CWM install zip option??? I'm asking this because I have a particular problem and is that I can't do backups or restore with my CWM so i can't install almost any custom rom that is in the developers forum.
I don't know why i have this problem, even I posted a thread asking for help about this, but I guess I'm the only one experiencing this issue and the only rom I successfully installed is the Victory Rom and is a flashing zip.
By the way I installed the CWM with the Atrix Bootstrap and I applied the patch RAZR-CWMOnBoot-Global-J.Y.Daddy.zip to have the CWM on every boot and I don't experience any GPS issue (I guess i don't know exactly what is the issue) and for the record when I'm trying to do a CWM backup i get the "check sum error" when the CWM tried to finish the backup process, and when i'm attemping to restore a backup the CWM starts without problem but then I get the "Error while restoring /system".
I hope you can helpme with this problem.
Thank's in advanced.

jfrank1485 said:
Hi everyone! I aware that maybe this is a stupid question, but i have to ask...Is there a way to convert a CWM backup to a flash zip to use with the CWM install zip option??? I'm asking this because I have a particular problem and is that I can't do backups or restore with my CWM so i can't install almost any custom rom that is in the developers forum.
I don't know why i have this problem, even I posted a thread asking for help about this, but I guess I'm the only one experiencing this issue and the only rom I successfully installed is the Victory Rom and is a flashing zip.
By the way I installed the CWM with the Atrix Bootstrap and I applied the patch RAZR-CWMOnBoot-Global-J.Y.Daddy.zip to have the CWM on every boot and I don't experience any GPS issue (I guess i don't know exactly what is the issue) and for the record when I'm trying to do a CWM backup i get the "check sum error" when the CWM tried to finish the backup process, and when i'm attemping to restore a backup the CWM starts without problem but then I get the "Error while restoring /system".
I hope you can helpme with this problem.
Thank's in advanced.
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after you apply the atrix bootstrap use rom manager and install the recovery for the droid bionic and you will be able to back up and restore roms. advance restore also works incase you do a wipe, install a rom, and then want your data restored.

jfrank1485 said:
Hi everyone! I aware that maybe this is a stupid question, but i have to ask...Is there a way to convert a CWM backup to a flash zip to use with the CWM install zip option??? I'm asking this because I have a particular problem and is that I can't do backups or restore with my CWM so i can't install almost any custom rom that is in the developers forum.
I don't know why i have this problem, even I posted a thread asking for help about this, but I guess I'm the only one experiencing this issue and the only rom I successfully installed is the Victory Rom and is a flashing zip.
By the way I installed the CWM with the Atrix Bootstrap and I applied the patch RAZR-CWMOnBoot-Global-J.Y.Daddy.zip to have the CWM on every boot and I don't experience any GPS issue (I guess i don't know exactly what is the issue) and for the record when I'm trying to do a CWM backup i get the "check sum error" when the CWM tried to finish the backup process, and when i'm attemping to restore a backup the CWM starts without problem but then I get the "Error while restoring /system".
I hope you can helpme with this problem.
Thank's in advanced.
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You could convert it... but you would have to write an updater-script, and get an updater-binary (you can basically steal it from any flashable zip.)

rob219 said:
after you apply the atrix bootstrap use rom manager and install the recovery for the droid bionic and you will be able to back up and restore roms. advance restore also works incase you do a wipe, install a rom, and then want your data restored.
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Should I remove the patch for CWM on every boot? Or i just download the recovery with rom manager ?

farshad525hou said:
You could convert it... but you would have to write an updater-script, and get an updater-binary (you can basically steal it from any flashable zip.)
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mmmm... interesting, i will try first the rom manager option and then look this. Thankyou all.

rob219 said:
after you apply the atrix bootstrap use rom manager and install the recovery for the droid bionic and you will be able to back up and restore roms. advance restore also works incase you do a wipe, install a rom, and then want your data restored.
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Well I tried this with no success , I installed the recovery for the droid bionic and then I reboot into recovery with rom manager and make a cwm backup, the result was an error when generating the md5Sum and my battery went from 60% to 3%, that kinda surprise me it's the second time that happens, the first time was when i was updating from stock 2.3.5 to 2.3.6.
Worth the shot i guess but until i can fix this i guess i'm screwed :'( .

jfrank1485 said:
Well I tried this with no success , I installed the recovery for the droid bionic and then I reboot into recovery with rom manager and make a cwm backup, the result was an error when generating the md5Sum and my battery went from 60% to 3%, that kinda surprise me it's the second time that happens, the first time was when i was updating from stock 2.3.5 to 2.3.6.
Worth the shot i guess but until i can fix this i guess i'm screwed :'( .
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Try flashing the 2.3.5 fkz...

farshad525hou said:
Try flashing the 2.3.5 fkz...
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That is an interesting point because everything I've done, the rooted, the atrix bootstrap recovery and the CWM on boot patch has been with version stock rom 2.3.6 I never tried do it with the 2.3.5 so i guess i'll be downgrading tonigth to stock 2.3.5.
thank's, when i'm done i will inform of my result.
cheers.

farshad525hou said:
Try flashing the 2.3.5 fkz...
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Follow what he said and you will be ok. I've messed this phone up more times than i can count trying to mod and theme stuff and the fkz is a life saver.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using xda premium

farshad525hou said:
Try flashing the 2.3.5 fkz...
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It works!!!! it was the stock 2.3.6 update that was stopping me from backup or restore in CWM maybe it changes something in the bootloader that screw the CWM, but now i'm testing the Lithium rom 1.2 . Thank you all for your help and tips.

back to track
Sorry for bringing this up again but I need the answer to the
original question on converting a CWM backup to flashable zip...
my question:
My CWM Backup consistes of 7 files:
boot.img
recovery.img
system.yaffs2.img
data.yaffs2.img
cache.yaffs2.img
nandroid.md5
.android_secure.vfat.tar
my guess is that the first two go directly into the update.zip
then What about the other three yaffs2 files and the .android_secure.vfat.tar file
how are they extracted/combined into the zip file??
ps.about the updater-script and updater-binary, can I take them both from any flashable zip?

hosamn said:
Sorry for bringing this up again but I need the answer to the
original question on converting a CWM backup to flashable zip...
my question:
My CWM Backup consistes of 7 files:
boot.img
recovery.img
system.yaffs2.img
data.yaffs2.img
cache.yaffs2.img
nandroid.md5
.android_secure.vfat.tar
my guess is that the first two go directly into the update.zip
then What about the other three yaffs2 files and the .android_secure.vfat.tar file
how are they extracted/combined into the zip file??
ps.about the updater-script and updater-binary, can I take them both from any flashable zip?
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Its possible, I have done it, and the only foders you need are system and data...
It will be a pain, tho, your gonna wanna do it through Linux, updater script needs to have the right commands in it to do this, so its def not a drag and drop process, even tho some of it is..
Sent from my MB865 using xda app-developers app

jfrank1485 said:
Hi everyone! I aware that maybe this is a stupid question, but i have to ask...Is there a way to convert a CWM backup to a flash zip to use with the CWM install zip option??? I'm asking this because I have a particular problem and is that I can't do backups or restore with my CWM so i can't install almost any custom rom that is in the developers forum.
I don't know why i have this problem, even I posted a thread asking for help about this, but I guess I'm the only one experiencing this issue and the only rom I successfully installed is the Victory Rom and is a flashing zip.
By the way I installed the CWM with the Atrix Bootstrap and I applied the patch RAZR-CWMOnBoot-Global-J.Y.Daddy.zip to have the CWM on every boot and I don't experience any GPS issue (I guess i don't know exactly what is the issue) and for the record when I'm trying to do a CWM backup i get the "check sum error" when the CWM tried to finish the backup process, and when i'm attemping to restore a backup the CWM starts without problem but then I get the "Error while restoring /system".
I hope you can helpme with this problem.
Thank's in advanced.
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I had experience this yesterday when restore using PhilZ v3.81 recovery in my Note 2.. Basically the folder name is critical.. It must remain same as per when the backup folder is created. Else u will got md5 checksum error, if bypass md5 check, than error in /system recovery part. After renam the backup folder to the orig name, the restore is running smooth...

machang said:
I had experience this yesterday when restore using PhilZ v3.81 recovery in my Note 2.. Basically the folder name is critical.. It must remain same as per when the backup folder is created. Else u will got md5 checksum error, if bypass md5 check, than error in /system recovery part. After renam the backup folder to the orig name, the restore is running smooth...
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all you need to do is use unyaffs on the system.img and optionally data.img and if will unarchive them, then back it into a zip with the boot.img and build the updater-script!

[Q] Rom flash fail----Help

I have a lg g2x that I previously rooted and installed clockwork mod on. Today I tried to flash the weapon rom and it failed. I followed the directions posted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207125
Instructions on flashing
1. Download zip and place on sdcard
2. Reboot into clockwork recovery
3. Perform a factory reset
4. Navigate to mounts and storage and format /system
5. Choose Install zip from sdcard <-----This is where it failed. I got the message installation aborted. Now the phone hangs on the lg start up screen (with the blue bar)
the file on the sd card weapon g2x_30_r1-1022.zip (didn't unzip or edit name)
I have clockwork mod 3.1.0.1 on my phone and can hold the volume down & power to boot to clockwork.
EDIT: what format should the card be formatted ? I pulled it out the phone to add the file so I doubt that's it J/W
I ASSUME I can flash other roms....but I want this one and I got a feeling since I did everything right with this rom others would fail also.
any help is greatly appreciated

you need to update the Clock work mod first of all, and second you messed up by attempting boot a phone that has no rom on it... just redownload the rom and update the CWM to 5.0.2.0

the phone hangs at lg start up screen and doesn't start......how do I update clockwork mod?....so by saying I had no rom on the phone that file (weapon g2x_30_r1-1022.zip) is an update to a rom ?
Can I download another rom to the SD card from a computer and boot from clockwork mod?

I fixed my phone. I downloaded the stock gingerbread LG-P999-V21e file and my phone is up and running with root.
Before I tried to flash my phone I had a stock froyo when I did my nandroid backup with clockwork mod 3.1.0.1
Before I try to flash more roms I will download the newest clockwork mod. Do I have to perform the nandroid backup again? Or is the current backup sufficient ?
EDIT: I just noticed the camera folder (NOT saved to SD) and some ringtones from soundboards are still on my phone...but how? a cache?

Mjc189 said:
I fixed my phone. I downloaded the stock gingerbread LG-P999-V21e file and my phone is up and running with root.
Before I tried to flash my phone I had a stock froyo when I did my nandroid backup with clockwork mod 3.1.0.1
Before I try to flash more roms I will download the newest clockwork mod. Do I have to perform the nandroid backup again? Or is the current backup sufficient ?
EDIT: I just noticed the camera folder (NOT saved to SD) and some ringtones from soundboards are still on my phone...but how? a cache?
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if you already backed up you don't need to do it again if it's the same rom. but yea update your clock mod recovery i'm on 5.8.1.3 it's touch clock mod words good. and weapon g2x really you might as well stay with stock rom. try cm7& cm9 nice battery lots of tweaks
here is the 5.8.1.3 clock mod rec
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054492

Mjc189 said:
I fixed my phone. I downloaded the stock gingerbread LG-P999-V21e file and my phone is up and running with root.
Before I tried to flash my phone I had a stock froyo when I did my nandroid backup with clockwork mod 3.1.0.1
Before I try to flash more roms I will download the newest clockwork mod. Do I have to perform the nandroid backup again? Or is the current backup sufficient ?
EDIT: I just noticed the camera folder (NOT saved to SD) and some ringtones from soundboards are still on my phone...but how? a cache?
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delete the last backup and nandroid again. The last backup you did was with another version of the CWM so it won't restore with the new version of CWM that you just updated.

[Q] what happened?

DEVICE : SAMSUNG GALAXY FIT GT S5670
CURRENT ROM : GB 2.3.6 STOCK
I rooted my device a long time ago..but flashed the recovery few days ago only.
So here's what happened?
i flashed "AMON-RA RECOVERY"..then found it to be old.
then tried to flash the "TJ-STYLE RECOVERY" ...BUT SOMEHOW IT DIDN'T WORKED and ODIN was taking very much time.
so aborted and then flashed "PRATYUSH.CREED 'S RECOVERY"... as mentioned in the guide in the forum that this could backup the STOCK ROM.
THEN as mentioned in the guide i took a NANDROID BACKUP of the stock rom ...(didn't knew the backup was successful or not)..
after creating the backup i tried to flash OFFICIAL CYNOGEN MOD 7.2.0 NIGHTLY.ZIP but the process ended very quickly notifying of successfull flashing...
instead when i rebooted after showing the sumsung animation the Device got hungup at a black screen with android written on it at a little right.
then i tried to restore the NANDROID BACKUP...but the recovery showed MD5 ERROR..
I thought may be a unlocked BOOTLOADER is required ..i googled it but couldn't find the procedure...
i then downloaded and flashed a STOCK_GB_2.3.6.tar.md5 rom..
this worked BUT REPLACED THE CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY WITH STOCK RECOVERY
.
.
.
NOW THE QUESTIONS :​
1.why wasn't the NANDROID BACKUP successful ?​
2.why didn't the OFFICIAL CYNOGEN MOD 7.2.0 worked ?​
3.how can i unlock the BOOT LOADER if it is required for the CUSTOM ROMS ?​
4.why the CUSTOM CLOCKWORK MOD got replaced by the STOCK RECOVERY on reflashing with stock rom ?​
help me ...
AWAITING REPLIES.:fingers-crossed:

Hy there
qapl said:
DEVICE : SAMSUNG GALAXY FIT GT S5670
CURRENT ROM : GB 2.3.6 STOCK
I rooted my device a long time ago..but flashed the recovery few days ago only.
So here's what happened?
i flashed "AMON-RA RECOVERY"..then found it to be old.
then tried to flash the "TJ-STYLE RECOVERY" ...BUT SOMEHOW IT DIDN'T WORKED and ODIN was taking very much time.
so aborted and then flashed "PRATYUSH.CREED 'S RECOVERY"... as mentioned in the guide in the forum that this could backup the STOCK ROM.
THEN as mentioned in the guide i took a NANDROID BACKUP of the stock rom ...(didn't knew the backup was successful or not)..
after creating the backup i tried to flash OFFICIAL CYNOGEN MOD 7.2.0 NIGHTLY.ZIP but the process ended very quickly notifying of successfull flashing...
instead when i rebooted after showing the sumsung animation the Device got hungup at a black screen with android written on it at a little right.
then i tried to restore the NANDROID BACKUP...but the recovery showed MD5 ERROR..
I thought may be a unlocked BOOTLOADER is required ..i googled it but couldn't find the procedure...
i then downloaded and flashed a STOCK_GB_2.3.6.tar.md5 rom..
this worked BUT REPLACED THE CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY WITH STOCK RECOVERY
.
.
.
NOW THE QUESTIONS :​
1.why wasn't the NANDROID BACKUP successful ?​
2.why didn't the OFFICIAL CYNOGEN MOD 7.2.0 worked ?​
3.how can i unlock the BOOT LOADER if it is required for the CUSTOM ROMS ?​
4.why the CUSTOM CLOCKWORK MOD got replaced by the STOCK RECOVERY on reflashing with stock rom ?​
help me ...
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i m a complete noob, but i will try to help u as much as possible ...
i think,there was a prob with flashing of custom recovery,
i m also on custom recovery (dunno which one) i flashed it as flashable zip frm recovery {i think i installed tj style fr odin then flashed the present recovery }
Also, wen u flash stock rom, u need to root it again ..
nondroid problem? mayb due to recovery problem ..
bootloader thing? sorry i dont knw anything bootloader thing ...
If i were u, i will first install tj style recovery from odin(it roots ur phone too, so no need to root it first) then either use it(its said to b most stable recovery around) or flash another recovery as flashable zip frm the present recovery ...
(i will avoid using odin fr each nd every thing ...)
Hope this helps ^^

hi..
anu.cool said:
i m a complete noob, but i will try to help u as much as possible ...
i think,there was a prob with flashing of custom recovery,
i m also on custom recovery (dunno which one) i flashed it as flashable zip frm recovery {i think i installed tj style fr odin then flashed the present recovery }
Also, wen u flash stock rom, u need to root it again ..
nondroid problem? mayb due to recovery problem ..
bootloader thing? sorry i dont knw anything bootloader thing ...
If i were u, i will first install tj style recovery from odin(it roots ur phone too, so no need to root it first) then either use it(its said to b most stable recovery around) or flash another recovery as flashable zip frm the present recovery ...
(i will avoid using odin fr each nd every thing ...)
Hope this helps ^^
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thanks for the reply ...
i didn't knew flashing custom recovery ROOTS THE DEVICE , so if this actually happens thanks for letting me know. ..:good:
and for the recovery i did that already...
so if anyone WILLING TO CLEAR THE DOUBTS..
YOU ARE WELCOME​

how..?
anu.cool said:
flash another recovery as flashable zip frm the present recovery ...
(i will avoid using odin fr each nd every thing ...)
^^
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HOW WOULD I DO THAT..?
means the tj-style recovery i have is in TAR format...
should i UNcompress and recompress it in ZIP format... ?
AND WHAT POSSIBLE DISADVANTAGES COULD BE FOR THE ODIN ?

1) Nandroid Backup works only for custom roms. For stock roms u can only take a backup but u cant restore (there's a recovery by pratyush.creed which does restore too but i didn't try so can't say)
2)Perhaps u didn't flash properly so it went into bootloop. Use CWM by TJ-style only and next time, wipe data, cache and dalvik cache and format /system just as a precautionary step before flashing custom rom.
3)Samsung Phones doesn't have locked bootloaders. So to flash a rom, u can do it easily
4) The stock rom u flash via ODIN contains stock recovery as well.
U cant flash recovery unless u have other custom recovery (well there is a flashable zip for CWM by tjstyle but i dont know whether it can be flashed via stock recovery). The only way u can do is through ODIN. Make sure ODIN is set properly and if u have windows 7, run it as administrator and better reinstall drivers.

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qapl said:
HOW WOULD I DO THAT..?
means the tj-style recovery i have is in TAR format...
should i UNcompress and recompress it in ZIP format... ?
AND WHAT POSSIBLE DISADVANTAGES COULD BE FOR THE ODIN ?
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Let me reclarify - u will hv to install tj style via odin, then avoid odin as much as possible ...
Swat4samp clarrified all other things in the previous reply ..

got the most of it..
swat4samp said:
1) Nandroid Backup works only for custom roms. For stock roms u can only take a backup but u cant restore (there's a recovery by pratyush.creed which does restore too but i didn't try so can't say)
2)Perhaps u didn't flash properly so it went into bootloop. Use CWM by TJ-style only and next time, wipe data, cache and dalvik cache and format /system just as a precautionary step before flashing custom rom.
3)Samsung Phones doesn't have locked bootloaders. So to flash a rom, u can do it easily
4) The stock rom u flash via ODIN contains stock recovery as well.
U cant flash recovery unless u have other custom recovery (well there is a flashable zip for CWM by tjstyle but i dont know whether it can be flashed via stock recovery). The only way u can do is through ODIN. Make sure ODIN is set properly and if u have windows 7, run it as administrator and better reinstall drivers.
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for the 1st point ..i used the PRATYUSH.CREED recovery already..but the backup restore didn't work for me..as i've also written in the 1st post
as for the 2nd point ...i'll try to do it again correctly and as mentioned by you
FOR THE 3rd AND 4 th POINT :good:
.............THANK YOU

[Q] custom recovery needed?

Hello all,
I'm new to Xperia L but not to rooting. I rooted my own HTC sensation and I'm planning to do the same to the Xperia to fix a not working camera and insane battery drain. On the HTC, I needed to flash a custom recovery, update bootloader, update radio before I could install a custom ROM.
Do I need to repeat the same procedure with the XPL? Or just unlock bootloader -> flash ROM done (which is what I'm getting from going through these forums)?

onemanshow85 said:
Hello all,
I'm new to Xperia L but not to rooting. I rooted my own HTC sensation and I'm planning to do the same to the Xperia to fix a not working camera and insane battery drain. On the HTC, I needed to flash a custom recovery, update bootloader, update radio before I could install a custom ROM.
Do I need to repeat the same procedure with the XPL? Or just unlock bootloader -> flash ROM done (which is what I'm getting from going through these forums)?
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Yep !! Kk roms n many jb roms r pre-rooted..if u dont need backup n stuff then no need to root..unlock bootloader..wic clears internal storage..so unlock>flash kk kernel>rom
Hit thanks if i helped

Rohan purohit said:
Yep !! Kk roms n many jb roms r pre-rooted..if u dont need backup n stuff then no need to root..unlock bootloader..wic clears internal storage..so unlock>flash kk kernel>rom
Hit thanks if i helped
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thanks
the way I see it now is 2 options:
- first root, and make a TA backuo
or
- unlock, flash recovery (CWM from what I've gathered), flash kernel/ROM.
correct?
Can I backup the stock ROM in CWM if I choose to follow the second option?

onemanshow85 said:
thanks
the way I see it now is 2 options:
- first root, and make a TA backuo
or
- unlock, flash recovery (CWM from what I've gathered), flash kernel/ROM.
correct?
Can I backup the stock ROM in CWM if I choose to follow the second option?
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I have a 3rd n better option , u can backup everything before unlock as it erases apps n internal sd..so fo this
1)root n thn titanium backup 2)cwm on locked (go to original development) recovery instaler tool
3)nandroid backup
4)unlock
5)flash custom rom..wicever ..just u cnt flash kk rom frm jb recovery
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onemanshow85 said:
thanks
the way I see it now is 2 options:
- first root, and make a TA backuo
or
- unlock, flash recovery (CWM from what I've gathered), flash kernel/ROM.
correct?
Can I backup the stock ROM in CWM if I choose to follow the second option?
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I have a 3rd n better option , u can backup everything before unlock as it erases apps n internal sd..so fo this
1)root n thn titanium backup 2)cwm on locked (go to original development) recovery instaler tool
3)nandroid backup
4)unlock
5)flash custom rom..wicever ..just u cnt flash kk rom frm jb recovery
N if u go with ur 2nd option there wont be anything to backup after unlocking..so u cwm on locked bootloader by tht tool
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onemanshow85 said:
thanks
the way I see it now is 2 options:
- first root, and make a TA backuo
or
- unlock, flash recovery (CWM from what I've gathered), flash kernel/ROM.
correct?
Can I backup the stock ROM in CWM if I choose to follow the second option?
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Rohan purohit said:
I have a 3rd n better option , u can backup everything before unlock as it erases apps n internal sd..so fo this
1)root n thn titanium backup 2)cwm on locked (go to original development) recovery instaler tool
3)nandroid backup
4)unlock
5)flash custom rom..wicever ..just u cnt flash kk rom frm jb recovery
N if u go with ur 2nd option there wont be anything to backup after unlocking..so u cwm on locked bootloader by tht tool
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I like that option.
Problem is I can't get this thing rooted, I tried Doomlord Rootkit and the motochopper root method (untill I found out it won't work on 4.2.2)
I know I could just unlock and flash a custom ROM/kernel, but I really want to backup with TA before unlocking (not my own phone) and for that I need full root first.

onemanshow85 said:
I like that option.
Problem is I can't get this thing rooted, I tried Doomlord Rootkit and the motochopper root method (untill I found out it won't work on 4.2.2)
I know I could just unlock and flash a custom ROM/kernel, but I really want to backup with TA before unlocking (not my own phone) and for that I need full root first.
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There's rooting kit in the general section that works on 4.2.2. Backing up TA partition is always a good idea. I would suggest you to take a full nandroid backup AFTER flashing a custom kernel. There's no need for titanium backup too (I don't understand why the above post mentions that). Now that you have a working recovery and backup, proceed with flashing your rom.
Hope it helps
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abhi007.john said:
There's rooting kit in the general section that works on 4.2.2. Backing up TA partition is always a good idea. I would suggest you to take a full nandroid backup AFTER flashing a custom kernel. There's no need for titanium backup too (I don't understand why the above post mentions that). Now that you have a working recovery and backup, proceed with flashing your rom.
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thanks, I managed to get it rooted, TA backup, bootloader unlock and flashed a stock FTF. I'm looking for a kernel that contains the CWM recovery so I can flash some ROMS.

onemanshow85 said:
thanks, I managed to get it rooted, TA backup, bootloader unlock and flashed a stock FTF. I'm looking for a kernel that contains the CWM recovery so I can flash some ROMS.
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use any custom kernel. use phantom v7 for jellybean, above that are all for kitkat onli. There's a stock kernel with recovery too. And it's really god

abhi007.john said:
use any custom kernel. use phantom v7 for jellybean, above that are all for kitkat onli. There's a stock kernel with recovery too. And it's really god
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tnx.
One more thing though...it seems I can't get into the recovery by default. The purple LED light doesn't lit up when I boot my phone and I tried wigling the volume buttons during boot multiple times but it just boots regularly. I was on the verge to flash a recovery with a boot.img, from phantom I believe, but I figured I wouldn't before I figure out how to get into the recovery. Supose the ROM won't boot after flashing a new recovery, there's no way for me to enter CWM

onemanshow85 said:
tnx.
One more thing though...it seems I can't get into the recovery by default. The purple LED light doesn't lit up when I boot my phone and I tried wigling the volume buttons during boot multiple times but it just boots regularly. I was on the verge to flash a recovery with a boot.img, from phantom I believe, but I figured I wouldn't before I figure out how to get into the recovery. Supose the ROM won't boot after flashing a new recovery, there's no way for me to enter CWM
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You cannot enter the recovery by keypress on stock. You'll have to do that via ADB or Gravitybox etc.

Joery360 said:
You cannot enter the recovery by keypress on stock. You'll have to do that via ADB or Gravitybox etc.
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I see, so the volume button trick is a custom ROM only feature to enter the recovery..? So I gues I would have to flash a custom ROM with recovery included with flashtool. Can someone hoop me up with a ROM like that?
I did some research into this Gravitybox but it sais it requires a working custom recovery, which I lack.

onemanshow85 said:
I see, so the volume button trick is a custom ROM only feature to enter the recovery..? So I gues I would have to flash a custom ROM with recovery included with flashtool. Can someone hoop me up with a ROM like that?
I did some research into this Gravitybox but it sais it requires a working custom recovery, which I lack.
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Unlock bootloader, download a JB Custom Kernel (Vengeance is a good one), extract boot.img and flash it in fastboot mode with flashtool.

onemanshow85 said:
I see, so the volume button trick is a custom ROM only feature to enter the recovery..? So I gues I would have to flash a custom ROM with recovery included with flashtool. Can someone hoop me up with a ROM like that?
I did some research into this Gravitybox but it sais it requires a working custom recovery, which I lack.
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It's NOT the ROM. Recovery comes with custom KERNEL. If you're on stock kernel then you won't be able to enter recovery by pressing volume down.
Unlock your bootloader, flash a custom kernel and then you will have a recovery and glowing led on boot. In case your phone doesn't boot( that you cautioned) flash stock FTF using flashtool. It will reset your kernel(which means flash stock kernel, which works anyways).
Hope this helps
Hit thanks if it does.

abhi007.john said:
It's NOT the ROM. Recovery comes with custom KERNEL. If you're on stock kernel then you won't be able to enter recovery by pressing volume down.
Unlock your bootloader, flash a custom kernel and then you will have a recovery and glowing led on boot. In case your phone doesn't boot( that you cautioned) flash stock FTF using flashtool. It will reset your kernel(which means flash stock kernel, which works anyways).
Hope this helps
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ok, got it. thanks.
next problem: I got the CWM working and I was about to flash a custom ROM. the AOSP ROM from Taoshan gave me an error so I wanted to flash a different one. I dowloaded and stored a different ROM+gapps on a different SD card to save some time. Now for some reason, CWM memorizes the content of the combination of the 2 SDcards, and it won't update it's content no matter what SDcard I use. I formatted the SD card and stored the ROM+gapps again, but CWM keeps showing me the content of the old status of the SD card. So I can't select any new zips.
quesiton is, can I fix this somehow OR, can I reflash the boot.img to overwrite the current CWM without any issues? I have no working ROM atm since I already to apply a new one.

onemanshow85 said:
ok, got it. thanks.
next problem: I got the CWM working and I was about to flash a custom ROM. the AOSP ROM from Taoshan gave me an error so I wanted to flash a different one. I dowloaded and stored a different ROM+gapps on a different SD card to save some time. Now for some reason, CWM memorizes the content of the combination of the 2 SDcards, and it won't update it's content no matter what SDcard I use. I formatted the SD card and stored the ROM+gapps again, but CWM keeps showing me the content of the old status of the SD card. So I can't select any new zips.
quesiton is, can I fix this somehow OR, can I reflash the boot.img to overwrite the current CWM without any issues? I have no working ROM atm since I already to apply a new one.
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Yes, you can flash new kernel anytime. I am not sure what's causing this problem. I wonder if there's any refresh or reload option in CWM or any option to reset/clear CWM data. Look for these options and if you don't find, feel free to flash the kernel again.
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abhi007.john said:
Yes, you can flash new kernel anytime. I am not sure what's causing this problem. I wonder if there's any refresh or reload option in CWM or any option to reset/clear CWM data. Look for these options and if you don't find, feel free to flash the kernel again.
Hit thanks if it helped.
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solved
I was using a JB kernel and trying to flash KK roms. Extracted a kernel from LS 4.4 ROM and flashed it, phone is booted and working fine now.
about the CWM issue, reflashing the same kernel won't solve the it. When I flashed a different kernel, it did do the trick. Seems CWM stores SD partitions in its own memory. I managed to install zips from the SDcard by accesing the external SDcard partition. Haven't seen any refresh or reload options in CWM.
thanks for the help, overall I just had to do some more reading. I'm quite familiar with rooting but I come from a HTC device, which is entirely different imo. (using 4ext recovery there which I personally find a lot more user friendly). Getting accustomed with Sony devices, the rooting and the terminoligy takes some time I guess.