Odien(kexec) Vs Sprint's unlocked bootloader - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

I'm contemplating whether to return my GSIII and cancel my Verizon account within the two week period for the unlocked bootloader from Sprint, touchwiz is bad enough WITHOUT all the VZW bloat! I'm hesitant because of VZW's premium coverage and my monthly rates were grandfathered, but I'm totally against their public stance on rooting/modding. If it weren't for this community, Verizon would have lost my business years ago despite 4G lte, I live in a well covered 4G area.
Would it be wise to switch to Sprint while I still can? I know the awesome devs here are working on a permanent solution but is it logical to stay with a company that is against a good part of the reason why their devices sell?

Shibby87 said:
I'm contemplating whether to return my GSIII and cancel my Verizon account within the two week period for the unlocked bootloader from Sprint, touchwiz is bad enough WITHOUT all the VZW bloat! I'm hesitant because of VZW's premium coverage and my monthly rates were grandfathered, but I'm totally against their public stance on rooting/modding. If it weren't for this community, Verizon would have lost my business years ago despite 4G lte, I live in a well covered 4G area.
Would it be wise to switch to Sprint while I still can? I know the awesome devs here are working on a permanent solution but is it logical to stay with a company that is against a good part of the reason why their devices sell?
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I'm wondering the same ****...
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I'd rather have a locked boot loader than ****ty slow data speeds. Bootloader can be eventually be unlocked but ****ty service usually stays ****ty.
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Clienterror said:
I'd rather have a locked boot loader than ****ty slow data speeds. Bootloader can be eventually be unlocked but ****ty service usually stays ****ty.
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I agree 100%

How right you are
Clienterror said:
I'd rather have a locked boot loader than ****ty slow data speeds. Bootloader can be eventually be unlocked but ****ty service usually stays ****ty.
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You hit it on the head! Crappy service sux worse than a locked bootloader, which can be unlocked (However unlikely) or worked around.

Bootloader isn't stopping anything guys.
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Left T-Mobile for Verizon, Now the Jokes on Me

Weeks ago when I made the decision to go with the S3 I decided that I didn't want to get stuck with the oddball US version (ie T-Mobile with no LTE).
After over a decade as a T-Mobile customer I jumped ship for Verizon and ordered my shiny new S3.
Now I find that the Verizon version is the only S3 on the planet with a locked bootloader AND Verizon has made absurd changes to the UI such as a persistent ongoing wifi notification with no way to disable it. They also REMOVED the standard wifi toggle.
http://tinyurl.com/c67tzxm
I haven't even paid my first bill yet and I am irritated as hell with all of this. I guess the grass isn't always that much greener. Blah !
Sorry, just had to vent a bit. I'm normally the last person to complain about anything but I guess the stupidity of all of this tripped me off.
Stresa said:
Weeks ago when I made the decision to go with the S3 I decided that I didn't want to get stuck with the oddball US version (ie T-Mobile with no LTE).
After over a decade as a T-Mobile customer I jumped ship for Verizon and ordered my shiny new S3.
Now I find that the Verizon version is the only S3 on the planet with a locked bootloader AND Verizon has made absurd changes to the UI such as a persistent ongoing wifi notification with no way to disable it. They also REMOVED the standard wifi toggle.
http://tinyurl.com/c67tzxm
I haven't even paid my first bill yet and I am irritated as hell with all of this. I guess the grass isn't always that much greener. Blah !
Sorry, just had to vent a bit. I'm normally the last person to complain about anything but I guess the stupidity of all of this tripped me off.
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Ya I sugget att or sprint. I have Verizon and if they cancelled my unlimited plan I would cancel them becuase of their outrageous prices and various other problems
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Actually the t-mobile version is the most capable version out of the box amongst all s3's. no lte but can still connect to more worldwide high speed than any other vatiatio as of yet.
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r3a1ist said:
Actually the t-mobile version is the most capable version out of the box amongst all s3's. no lte but can still connect to more worldwide high speed than any other vatiatio as of yet.
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I agree on this and that's why I went with Tmobile to
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The persistant wifi notification exists on the AT&T version as well.
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That's why I left Verizon and went to tmobile lol.
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Jirv311 said:
The persistant wifi notification exists on the AT&T version as well.
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It is a different notification, not the connected one. It will ask you to connect even if wifi is off from what I understand. (I may be wrong on that)
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Stresa said:
Weeks ago when I made the decision to go with the S3 I decided that I didn't want to get stuck with the oddball US version (ie T-Mobile with no LTE).
After over a decade as a T-Mobile customer I jumped ship for Verizon and ordered my shiny new S3.
Now I find that the Verizon version is the only S3 on the planet with a locked bootloader AND Verizon has made absurd changes to the UI such as a persistent ongoing wifi notification with no way to disable it. They also REMOVED the standard wifi toggle.
http://tinyurl.com/c67tzxm
I haven't even paid my first bill yet and I am irritated as hell with all of this. I guess the grass isn't always that much greener. Blah !
Sorry, just had to vent a bit. I'm normally the last person to complain about anything but I guess the stupidity of all of this tripped me off.
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If you are within 14 days of activating the phone, you should be able to just cancel without any penalty according to this link:
http://aboutus.verizonwireless.com/bestnetwork/overview.html
This look like an older page, but it mentions a 30 day money back guarantee:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/slpconsumer/
I almost made this mistake. Happy I stuck with my GSM Galaxy Nexus.
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ATHORNFAM2 said:
Ya I sugget att or sprint. I have Verizon and if they cancelled my unlimited plan I would cancel them becuase of their outrageous prices and various other problems
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No one will cancel your unlimited plan. All u need is to go read FAQ on vzw site.
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r3a1ist said:
Actually the t-mobile version is the most capable version out of the box amongst all s3's. no lte but can still connect to more worldwide high speed than any other vatiatio as of yet.
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Yeah, I understand that but my days of traveling outside of the USA are over. I have zero plans for any international travel these days so in my case the LTE route made the most sense.
Now that the phone has root I'm around 90% sure the notification will be removed by users soon enough. The toggle still irks me but the devs are still making astounding progress. Everyone's jumping on the "we're doomed" bandwagon a bit soon, myself included. I didn't think we'd get root, but we have. I also didn't think it was even possible to get custom roms but they're making progress right now, just getting around the bootloader. Consider the fact that the phone isn't even in everyones hands yet and I think we've got some hope left. Just let them do their thing.
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I almost made this mistake. Happy I stuck with my GSM Galaxy Nexus.
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ZServ said:
Now that the phone has root I'm around 90% sure the notification will be removed by users soon enough. The toggle still irks me but the devs are still making astounding progress. Everyone's jumping on the "we're doomed" bandwagon a bit soon, myself included. I didn't think we'd get root, but we have. I also didn't think it was even possible to get custom roms but they're making progress right now, just getting around the bootloader. Consider the fact that the phone isn't even in everyones hands yet and I think we've got some hope left. Just let them do their thing.
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Good news because I was laughing at the Verizon version all day! Sorry but I was
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I agree on this and that's why I went with Tmobile to
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I sincerely hope that Tmo improves in the area of updating devices for you with the S3.
I'm an original Galaxy S owner (Vibrant on Tmo) and they completely abandoned it within 9 months of release. The Vibrant is the ONLY Galaxy S that was never officially updated to Gingerbread, and the GPS on this device has never worked properly.
I'm running an ICS rom on my Vibrant these days, but it still has it's idiosyncrasies that are annoying as hell.
The ironic thing is that I chose the Verizon S3 because I thought I'd be getting the "common" US version of the phone. As it turns out it's more of an oddball than the rest. sigh.
My great hope is that the stock version of the phone runs so well that I really won't care if I can't reflash it. I am also quite confident that we'll get an official version of Jellybean so I'm not feeling completely hopeless about the situation.
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Good news because I was laughing at the Verizon version all day! Sorry but I was
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Haha, no matter. I'm facepalming myself at how much Verizon has screwed up this launch. Delaying the phone, shipping them seemingly randomly, the locked bootlauncher, and the bugged 4g. Verizon's made a huge mess of this launch and I'm sure it'll lead to some blushing and "please love us please?" treatment.
Stresa said:
Weeks ago when I made the decision to go with the S3 I decided that I didn't want to get stuck with the oddball US version (ie T-Mobile with no LTE).
After over a decade as a T-Mobile customer I jumped ship for Verizon and ordered my shiny new S3.
Now I find that the Verizon version is the only S3 on the planet with a locked bootloader AND Verizon has made absurd changes to the UI such as a persistent ongoing wifi notification with no way to disable it. They also REMOVED the standard wifi toggle.
http://tinyurl.com/c67tzxm
I haven't even paid my first bill yet and I am irritated as hell with all of this. I guess the grass isn't always that much greener. Blah !
Sorry, just had to vent a bit. I'm normally the last person to complain about anything but I guess the stupidity of all of this tripped me off.
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Maybe you still have time to cancel without EFT and come back to Tmobile...
chronos7 said:
Maybe you still have time to cancel without EFT and come back to Tmobile...
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The complicating factor in my situation is that my wife switched with me, and she got the Droid 4 which she really likes (being the type that just HAS to have a hardware keyboard).
I'm probably going to have to stay put for now.
If the stock S3 runs smoothly and we are able to root and "fix" the wifi notification thing, I'll be satisfied for now.
Sad face... SORRY DUDE.
I'm a little fed up with T-mobile myself, and I've been with them since they were VOICESTREAM... so a LOOONG TIME. Up until June 2011 my 4 lines all had the $2.99 unlimited data (no 3g/4g)+30 mms deal... We were contract free for YEARS AND YEARS. Unlimited everything, blah blah blah... using iPhone's on edge so 3g/4g didn't matter... (still using iphones btw, except me - now trying the gs3). Then with the rumors of the AT&T merger in June 2011, I decided to lock in to a contract thinking I would get UNLIMITED data on AT&T for whatever the t-mobile price was ($20 for unlimited data, with the first 2gb at 4g? or something like that- whatever the promotion was)... At the time (6/2011) I didn't buy any new handsets even though all 4 lines qualified for full upgrade, because we all have iPhone 4's... I was told that IF/WHEN I wanted to buy a handset I could at full upgrade price *WITHOUT* re-extending that contract...
WELL - Guess what, NOPE. If I buy phones NOW, I have to re-sign for another 2 years starting from the purchase date of the phone.... I complained, moaned, *****ed.... They don't care.
RIGHT NOW I'LL SAY: Come June 2012, I'm LEAVING T-mobile and NEVER LOOKING BACK. I can go to a pre-paid service, save money, get better service, high speed data, etc... That may change in 12 months, but we'll see.
I jumped from Verizon to t-mo simply because after having a thunderbolt, razr, and a gnex I know exactly how bad most everything with lte is on battery life. Now on t-mobile I'm getting 4+ hours of screen time and 23 meg d/l. Best of both world for me.

Unlock bootloader Verizon version coming soon

http://m.engadget.com/2012/07/10/samsung-brings-out-galaxy-s-iii-developer-edition-for-verizon/
Would like to see how this is going to work
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we need to combine all 4-5 threads currently on this topic lol.
This is a bad move. Why not release a fully dev-able phone from the start like other carriers? The $599 price tag would only drive devs away and who would buy a carrier locked phone at full price when they can get the int version at maybe the same price that can be used on any carriers and has a better developer community?
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That's crazy. This whole locked boot loader thing is a mess.
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kulzboy said:
This is a bad move. Why not release a fully dev-able phone from the start like other carriers? The $599 price tag would only drive devs away and who would buy a carrier locked phone at full price when they can get the int version at maybe the same price that can be used on any carriers and has a better developer community?
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Because the international version won't work on Verizon's CDMA network.
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I'm hoping that this whole thing is just to get money out of the lazy modders, our locked bootloaders can be (and will be) cracked with more work compared to the developer's version.
Just hoping that's all it boils down to.
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I'm hoping that this whole thing is just to get money out of the lazy modders, our locked bootloaders can be (and will be) cracked with more work compared to the developer's version.
Just hoping that's all it boils down to.
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I'm wondering if the locked Verizon S3 might be forgotten and left in the dust if most developers and power users get the unlocked version to avoid the hassle.

Verizon or Sprint

Here's my dilemma. My Sprint contract is up next month & I'm 99% determined to switch from my Epig 4G to the GS3. My coverage with Sprint is, shall we say, lacking. Nevermind the fact that I was told 4G would be in my area (Omaha, NE) "soon" when I purchased my Epic. Needless to say, 2 years later, still no 4G. Called Sprint yesterday & was told LTE would be in my area "soon", which provided me with a nice laugh to share with the Sprint rep. On the flipside for Sprint, they don't lock the bootloader or block Google Wallet, from what I understand.
VZW should provide much better service, however, they lock the bootloader & block Wallet. I'm afraid to learn what other items they have deemed me too irresponsible to handle.
To avoid this turning in to a fanboy thread, I guess my real question is, how likely (and timely) is it that someone will figure out how to unlock the bootloader? I'm also assuming that if/when that happens, flashing a ROM that will support Google Wallet will become much easier.
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I was in the EXACT same boat as you about 3 weeks ago. I pulled the trigger and went to Verizon! I will tell you service wise it was one of the best decisions I have ever made. Don't get me wrong Sprint has wonderful phones, unlocked bootloaders, Google Wallet, etc... But what's the sense in having tons of ROMS to flash including AOSP if you don't have the network/service to use it... pointless in my opinion. With Verizon I have service everywhere I go! The only downfall is the locked bootloader and google wallet so far. If you're as frustrated as I was with Sprints service I would make the switch you will be extremely pleased!
Since it sounds like you want 4G check the Verizon Coverage map of your area to see if Verizon has coverage of your area. For the bootloader and Wallet problem people have already gotten wallet working on rooted stock roms and I'm pretty sure CM10 works with Wallet too. The bootloader is being investigated by AdamOutler and many others who have made great progress in the R&D Thread but don't make a post in there unless you have something to provide to help them otherwise your post will be deleted since it's a heavily moderated thread. For the question on when the bootloader will be unlocked only time can tell but we have the Kexec method which allows ROMs like AOKP and CM9 and CM10 and Paranoid.
I would say just gaining 4G is a good reason to switch. The G3 is fast enough for stock and working well for me. custom ROM, unlocked bootloader, etc... are just bonus. Another thing to look forward to is Jelly Bean, once we have Jelly been and a 4G network...Verizon rules the Air.
Bootloader aside, You will get [email protected] on data usage, I'd stay away from Verizon until their prices come down.
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AndroidGraphix said:
Bootloader aside, You will get [email protected] on data usage, I'd stay away from Verizon until their prices come down.
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Agreed. As a vzw customer myself I cannot, in good faith, recommend vzw to anyone at the moment. Wait to praise them with your dollars until they've pulled their heads out of their asses.
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AndroidGraphix said:
I'd stay away from Verizon until their prices come down.
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Lol, cell phones will be totally obsolete before that ever happens........
Agreed no reason to come into verizon right now with the share everything scams. Stay away. We only here because of our grandfathered data plans.
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Telling somebody not to sign up with Verizon because they are too expensive is rather moronic really.
If you want good service, you really have no other choice than to go with VZ and waiting for their prices to "go down" is not going to happen in our lifetimes......
Buy the phone outright off CL or eBay and go month to month with the carrier of your choice.
If you go Verizon, you will pay a premium for good network coverage, 4g and the privilege of *****ing about Verizon's bootloader policies ...
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I was in the exact situation, except I also had an original Sero500 plan which ran me $50 per month. Had the Evo 4G, marginal at best service, and a 2 year promise of 4G coming soon and still no 4G anywhere close. I went to Verizon and the GS3 and haven't looked back. Service is much better, LTE is ridiculously blazing compared to Sprints network, and the locked bootloader is less of an issue with kexec. Development still may suffer ultimately though. All I can say is that I'm very happy with my decision.
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What amuses me is 999 out of 1000 Verizon customers have never heard of a "locked boot loader" and could care less what it means anyway.
The VZ G3 is absolutely flying off the shelves and the customers love them.
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What amuses me is 999 out of 1000 Verizon customers have never heard of a "locked boot loader" and could care less what it means anyway.
The VZ G3 is absolutely flying off the shelves and the customers love them.
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I frankly don't think any of us care about those 999 people.
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Very good points, that pretty much confirm what I was already thinking - if the service sucks, it doesn't do much good to have a killer phone.
Although I have a very vague idea of what a locked bootloader is, and why it's detrimental to dev, I'd still (almost) consider myself one of those "999" people. Couldn't have told you anything about it 2 weeks ago.
Getting hosed on data usage doesn't concern me too much really. Looking at my history, assuming Sprint's tools are accurate, I rarely go over 2GB per month between me & the wife. If I'm doing my math correctly, the cost of a 2GB share plan on VZW will be about the same as what I'm currently paying with Sprint. Even if I factor in the 'holy crap the service is so much better I'm using twice as much' factor, I'd still be in the same financial ballpark.
Google Wallet definitely isn't a deal breaker. The VZW rep I was chatting with the other day flat out told me that they don't allow Wallet because they're working on an in-house pymt solution, ISIS.
I think a big part of it is, the thought of giving my money to a company that wants to control how I use my OWN phone just pi$$es me off. Even if I never flash a ROM on the thing - like that's really going to happen.
And my slow a$$ Sprint data was ticking me off so much this afternoon that I almost said screw the last month & $50ETF and switched on the way home. Who knows, I may yet switch this weekend anyway.
Thanks for all the advice. XDA community has never let me down.
i could never go back to sprint.
not that i have good data all the time i will pay top dollar.
im willing to pay for quality.
i stream siriusxm all day at work. it just works. all day every day in buildings in basements.
verizons network it worth the extra cost.
Dude, I just made this decision the other day. I have been with Sprint for 12 years (the last 2 phones were the EVO & Photon). Sprint coverage in my area SUCKS and I am in the Los Angeles area. I asked them when 4G LTE would be here and was told early to mid 2013. That was enough. I bought the SGSIII on Verizon (Shared Everything 6GB for $108 a month. Wife has a corporate discount). I am getting speeds of 40mbps Down & 19mbps Up This alone is worth it to me. I bought the SGSIII on Tuesday and I am already Rooted & using Synergey ROM with Free Hotspot and I could not be happier. The little extra I pay for Solid Network Coverage is totally worth it. Don't think twice, JUST DO IT.
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Dude, I just made this decision the other day. I have been with Sprint for 12 years (the last 2 phones were the EVO & Photon). Sprint coverage in my area SUCKS and I am in the Los Angeles area. I asked them when 4G LTE would be here and was told early to mid 2013. That was enough. I bought the SGSIII on Verizon (Shared Everything 6GB for $108 a month. Wife has a corporate discount). I am getting speeds of 40mbps Down & 19mbps Up This alone is worth it to me. I bought the SGSIII on Tuesday and I am already Rooted & using Synergey ROM with Free Hotspot and I could not be happier. The little extra I pay for Solid Network Coverage is totally worth it. Don't think twice, JUST DO IT.
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Same situation here! The shared data is not bad at all!
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Buy the phone outright off CL or eBay and go month to month with the carrier of your choice.
If you go Verizon, you will pay a premium for good network coverage, 4g and the privilege of *****ing about Verizon's bootloader policies ...
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Unfortunately, Verizon doesn't allow the creation of month-to-month accounts for new customers. You have to start with a contract.
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Unfortunately, Verizon doesn't allow the creation of month-to-month accounts for new customers. You have to start with a contract.
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That is not true at all.. I just opened an account on 07/30/12 month-month.
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Unfortunately, Verizon doesn't allow the creation of month-to-month accounts for new customers. You have to start with a contract.
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That is only if you get a phone from VZ at the upgrade price.

Disturbing trend coming to VZW phones?

This is pretty turrrrible. how can they do that? Unlocked bootloader for 15$ per month? Might make me hold onto my S3 for alot longer than I anticipated.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-X-to-launch-July-8th-for-299_id38955
Well, that's one site, so it may not be true. My guess is that Moto and Google won't work together and make a non-Nexus phone. But, in the case that this is true, its reason #187324 to get the hell of Verizon, as I will be doing in August. Easily the worst carrier CS-wise. Cost me $65 to return the DNA. I'm just done. T-Mobile take my significantly smaller sum of money.
I doubt any of that info is true. Just my two cents.
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Smells like bull****.
Even if true, you should unlock the bootloader using tools found on XDA and then donate the $15 to the awesome devs here, thus making the world a better place
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Well, that's one site, so it may not be true. My guess is that Moto and Google won't work together and make a non-Nexus phone. But, in the case that this is true, its reason #187324 to get the hell of Verizon, as I will be doing in August. Easily the worst carrier CS-wise. Cost me $65 to return the DNA. I'm just done. T-Mobile take my significantly smaller sum of money.
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T-Mobile service is terrible though. Two bars of 4G in my bedroom with verizon, data dropping on the note II on T-Mobile. Literally would drop 4G to 3G and back and forth and data was unusable. Both sat pretty close to -111dBm.
Might be going back to sprint. Least I know from having had them I get their 3G. Can't wait for their LTE.
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Evan that link states its speculation. This is not an official statement. Why would Goggle and Moto not work? And as stated you can buy it ditect .
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T-Mobile service is terrible though. Two bars of 4G in my bedroom with verizon, data dropping on the note II on T-Mobile. Literally would drop 4G to 3G and back and forth and data was unusable. Both sat pretty close to -111dBm.
Might be going back to sprint. Least I know from having had them I get their 3G. Can't wait for their LTE.
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Lol in my area, tmo gets >20 mbps hspa+ speeds. Sprint has actually no service. Verizon is the best, but eh I'll deal.
Not being an official statement, I suspect the article is full of fertilizer.
....sigh...just because it's on the internet it doesn't mean it's true. Plus for it to be a trend, this would need to be happening with other devices already, which is not.
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Well, that's one site, so it may not be true. My guess is that Moto and Google won't work together and make a non-Nexus phone. But, in the case that this is true, its reason #187324 to get the hell of Verizon, as I will be doing in August. Easily the worst carrier CS-wise. Cost me $65 to return the DNA. I'm just done. T-Mobile take my significantly smaller sum of money.
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You do know that google now owns Moto Phones right?
Lol if this is true, Verizon is full of shit.. You can unlock your phones as long as you pay us. LOL
I read the article on droid life, it has to do with unlocking the phone to use on another carrier.I think we'll be just fine if it truly is bad why would they start charging $15a month extra for unlocked phone's (which is ridiculous) they may have the best service but they truly become money hungry....T-Mobile is slowly catching up...maybe in the future they'll take big red's crown.never under estimate the under dog.my opponent did and lost
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You do know that google now owns Moto Phones right?
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Yeah... That's why it would be weird for it not to be a Nexus.
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Switching to T-Mobile or ATT

New data stats for 2014 are out and it looks like ATT is giving VZW a run for their money with T-Mobile trailing as a close third. ATT data plans are a little cheaper than T-Mobile, but they do not have an unlimited tier, T-Mobile does however and they finance the Nexus 5. From my understanding, ATT supports the Nexus 5, but don't offer financing, so buying it retail from Google or second hand is the only option, which I plan on doing in a few months.
I'm thinking about switching after the holidays and was wondering if the GS3 for VZW is compatible with either carrier's data bands. Has anyone successfully switched to ATT or T-Mobile using the GS3 subsidised by VZW?
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Can't, Vzw is cdma. Att and T-Mobile are gsm
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Just sell the gs3 for $225 on swappa add $125 of your money and buy a n5.
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Can't, Vzw is cdma. Att and T-Mobile are gsm
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Restola said:
Just sell the gs3 for $225 on swappa add $125 of your money and buy a n5.
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Well that sucks, VZW is like communist Russia or something lol.. I would just sell it however its like a year old with some wear.. Doubt I'd be able to get more than $150 for it. I don't mind paying retail, figure switch to a cheaper carrier, keep the GS3 for 4-5 months and save the monthly difference for a new N5.. Guess that's not possible since they use different bands.
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elrichmeister said:
Can't, Vzw is cdma. Att and T-Mobile are gsm
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Not quite true. You can, but you be stuck on Edge (no HSPA+ or LTE AFAIK). But as previous posters have stated, your best off selling the verizon device and picking up a Tmo one (Most Tmo devices work on ATT and Tmo, Many ATT devices are locked to ATT).
And I would compare Verizon to totalitarian Russia, but message received. =)
None of this matters for those who need all over cell service. I travel all over the midwest, att, tmobile, and sprint all suck for coverage area. If they are good in your area and you dont travel, go for it. You will have little to no rural coverage which also means no data in those areas.
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None of this matters for those who need all over cell service. I travel all over the midwest, att, tmobile, and sprint all suck for coverage area. If they are good in your area and you dont travel, go for it. You will have little to no rural coverage which also means no data in those areas.
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I'd stick with VZW if they still supported nexus devices and weren't trying to lock down everything else, guess there's no incentive for them to do so. ATT has a little over half the amount of towers VZW has with faster data transfer, T-Mobile has about a third and Sprint's LTE is still in infancy.
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From what I've read, you sacrifice 4g by using this phone on T-Mobile. That's all.
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Shibby87 said:
I'd stick with VZW if they still supported nexus devices and weren't trying to lock down everything else, guess there's no incentive for them to do so. ATT has a little over half the amount of towers VZW has with faster data transfer, T-Mobile has about a third and Sprint's LTE is still in infancy.
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No incentive indeed. Big red is losing points with me fast.. especially since losing my unlimited data. Sprint's LTE is an absolute joke at this point, but it seems the silver lining is T-mobile's expanding network. If they support your area and you don't need to travel much, an unlocked Nexus 5 on their $30/mo plan is looking very tempting. The 100 minutes a month thing sucks, but there's always voip alternatives.
Probably best here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886399

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