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I walked into Best Buy last week with every intention of buying a Xoom Tablet, but while I was sitting there, I started playing with the Acer Iconia TAB A500 and ended up getting it because it was cheaper. I've been playing with it for the last week and have been somewhat disappointed in some of it's downfalls. The GPS is probably the worst I've ever seen, for some reason doesn't like to play half of my music, Acer support is, for the most part, non-existent, and I've yet to be able to find a very protective case for it, and as a Paramedic student, this thing is traveling all over with me.
So my question is as follows: Are there any ground breaking differences between the Xoom and the A500?
I've read just about every comparison article written, but I'd figure that I'd come here and ask the people that use the Xoom the most.
Edit: I'm talking about the wifi only versions.
Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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muzz3256 said:
I walked into Best Buy last week with every intention of buying a Xoom Tablet, but while I was sitting there, I started playing with the Acer Iconia TAB A500 and ended up getting it because it was cheaper. I've been playing with it for the last week and have been somewhat disappointed in some of it's downfalls. The GPS is probably the worst I've ever seen, for some reason doesn't like to play half of my music, Acer support is, for the most part, non-existent, and I've yet to be able to find a very protective case for it, and as a Paramedic student, this thing is traveling all over with me.
So my question is as follows: Are there any ground breaking differences between the Xoom and the A500?
I've read just about every comparison article written, but I'd figure that I'd come here and ask the people that use the Xoom the most.
Edit: I'm talking about the wifi only versions.
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The US Xoom is a Google Experience Device which means you're always going to get OS updates first. The Xoom is also the ONLY tablet that supports 802.11 a/b/g/n that means you can operate on 2.4ghz wifi or 5ghz wifi. The Xoom is built stronger in my opinion.
The samsung is very pretty but after reading about how users are able to just flex them in their hands with little to no effort and reading reports of the glass popping out of the tablet... yeah no thanks. To say that comparing the Acer and the Xoom is comparing the worst two units on the market is short sighted and ignorant at worst.
I'd definately want the Xoom over any other tablet released to date.
So how's the playback & GPS on the Xoom? I'm been having difficulty with a lot of my 1080p videos on the A500, and the gps can't get a lock to save it's own life. I've updated the A500 to 3.1 and while the 1080p video playback has improved (it's not as choppy), the GPS is a worse as ever!
The GPS works like a charm. I've used it as a giant Garmin a few times. As for the video. I haven't tried anything in HD, but flash video can be a little jumpy. Most videos below 1080p are butter, but like I said, you can get the occasional jumpiness in flash videos.
boglwe said:
Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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Your kidding right? The xoom is far better then the galaxy tab, its plastic low Res crappiness. If you don't like the xoom gtfo of our forum. You dumbasses who are just here to talk **** are getting annoying. I'm assuming you own all four tablets and have thouroughly tested their pros and cons right?
The xoom is a very solid, well spec'd well supported piece of hardware.
Oh by the way how are you liking 3.2 on your gtab? Its beautiful on my xoom. Wait Samsung hasn't pushed that update yet? Sorry
Timely updates are important too. Xoom wins again
Kiss mine dude.
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Well, I think that the GPS working just put the nail in the Acer's coffin. I think that a trip back to Best Buy is in my future tomorrow......
muzz3256 said:
Well, I think that the GPS working just put the nail in the Acer's coffin. I think that a trip back to Best Buy is in my future tomorrow......
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Yea. GPS status n tools works well enough to accurately read car speed on my xoom, accurately lol.
The xoom is also pure google, which means its like the nexus line of phones.... you get the latest updates faster, the now 2 year old nexus is still more up to date then most phones you can buy today. So, ice cream sandwich and beyond is all but promised for the xoom. People have different opinions, but I'm enjoying 3.2 right now, before any other tablet. Like the galaxy tab 10.1 for example.
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The US Xoom is a Google Experience Device which means you're always going to get OS updates first
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Its just a PITFA if you're not in the US.
Your kidding right? The xoom is far better then the galaxy tab, its plastic low Res crappiness. If you don't like the xoom gtfo of our forum.
Kiss mine dude.
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There is no reason to answer like that. I have a galaxy tab and probably I will return it today for a xoom or a refund because of the newton rings problem on the display. But I can guarantee that the galaxy tab display is far superior to any other display actually on the market. Why you say low res? It has the same resolution of the xoom 1280x800. It uses an EPS display and it's much better on brightness and contrast than the xoom one. You shouldn't over react like that providing wrong information just because you like your xoom so much.
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i believe he reacted like that because there are a lot of guys coming into this forum to talk crap..... when all is said and done, all these tabs have pretty much the same specs. The 10.1 has no ports or SD but a nicer screen. The iconia is bigger and heavier, but cheaper and has a full sized USB. And the transformer has a nice screen but no USB without the dock. Its all about what's important to the person buying the device. I returned my iconia for the xoom and haven't looked back, and yes I tried the transformer for a few days too. It was nice but having to attach the dock to hook up USB devices was a pain in my opinion. I bought a tab so I didn't need a keyboard and mouse.
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Its just a PITFA if you're not in the US.
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Honestly if I lived outside the US and had wifi only I'd just flash the US images and be done with it.
I was actually suggesting the transformer over the gt any day..I was not trying to say don't get it but I just found it odd the compare was zoom vs Acer when two knew tabs are on the market. I own the ts and am seriously considering the zoom..the snapdragon is the killer for me for.
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Well I went and returned the Iconia today and picked up a Xoom. It feels like its better built and more solid, and the GPS receiver is rock solid, which was a deal breaker for me. The folks at best buy were shocked that I was returning it for the Xoom, as they all thought that the Acer was the better tab. I feel much happier with the Xoom, its doing everything that I need it to and more!
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Well I went and returned the Iconia today and picked up a Xoom. It feels like its better built and more solid, and the GPS receiver is rock solid, which was a deal breaker for me. The folks at best buy were shocked that I was returning it for the Xoom, as they all thought that the Acer was the better tab. I feel much happier with the Xoom, its doing everything that I need it to and more!
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GPS is one of the biggest reasons I chose the Xoom. The wifi version has a TRUE GPS chip onboard.
It's not assisted (rofl) gps, nor cellular triangulation, but a real gps chip and you don't have to buy the 3G version (cough icrap cough) to get it either.
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There is no reason to answer like that. I have a galaxy tab and probably I will return it today for a xoom or a refund because of the newton rings problem on the display. But I can guarantee that the galaxy tab display is far superior to any other display actually on the market. Why you say low res? It has the same resolution of the xoom 1280x800. It uses an EPS display and it's much better on brightness and contrast than the xoom one. You shouldn't over react like that providing wrong information just because you like your xoom so much.
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Its not that. Its like this, I'm a loyal HTC customer, and not a big fan of samsungs phones. But do I go post in the captivate forum talking crap about a product I don't own, when someone needs help with a valid question? No. That's rude and counterproductive
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I chose the xoom because I like the nice solid feel, I hate UI overlays and know how google beautifully supports devices they use to launch a new version of android. Also, I purchased mine before there was any competition, Ive played with a few other tabs, the galaxy felt flimsy, the transformer was about equal to my xoom IMO, and the Acer felt.... awkward I guess
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boglwe said:
Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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Asus Transformer? Are you kidding?
I am on my second TF. There are some major manufacturing issues with this device. The screen bleeds light from around the edges, the battery drain on their dock, speaker issues, Flash 10.3 at 6 frames/sec, etc. IMHO, the TF is not a good device at all. The 32GB TF was $499, the dock was $149. I had to return the device once and the new one, well, it is OK but no better. I think the Asus TF is sexy but overpriced. I got my Xoom for $499 and it just has a better feel and operates better. Once I get my 3.2 OTA update to have a MicroSD, the Xoom will probably be my favorite.
I did and I'm happy I did it.
I just got 3.2 last night. There's not really much use for the SD card. Or, I haven't figured it out, and ive spent alot of time trying, and the only way I can even see files on it was a file manager, but its already partitioned for my evo. So I think I may need to find a new one and try it.
3.2 is even faster and less battery draining, less force closes across all aps, and the portrait home/app screen is now lag free for me. The keyboard feels improved and auto correct and predict seem more intelligent. Zooming apps is nice. Browser is snappier along with most all data using apps. Maybe some updating on that end?
I'm very happy with my xoom after 3.2
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Got prompted to post this due to a line in one of the threads read recently.
"winamp is a battery hog"
So which one suits your needs?
To my way of thinking it is a "must" that is can read music and album art from the MicroSD
As nothing worst then having to reload music each time you flash a new rom. Plus not be a batt hog.
Personally at the moment I am using winamp pro, as I have been using it on the desktop for years
And old habits die hard..
But I do like the carousel of Google Music app. But I am finding it didn't play nice with the MicroSD pickup, and in that
It will only show a few albums.
Open to suggestions and comments on what others use.
So I hand the floor to other users to let us know their preferences.
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tranny grannies?
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tranny grannies?
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It's a pun.. A bit of aussy humor..
As sometimes we are just a bit too serious on here..
Anyway..
Which do you listen to your tunes with?
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My friend's music player he developed is pretty good, at least I think it is.
Has a lot of custom features and supported formats.
I use it mostly on my phone but works great on my transformer.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gonemad.gmmp
Also on sale for April
I hate being "that guy" but if you do a quick search for "best music player" in this subforum you will find a few older threads discussing this. I think PowerAMP is pretty popular. I personally also like ³ ("cubed") which has pretty cool features. Then there's the N7 player which has a very unique UI. At the end of days it's a matter of preference
FC..
Understand the thought pattern..and search is a good thing.. also I did spend a good 10 mins scrolling back through posts..
but we also have come along way since some of those threads..
What I would like to know from music buffs is how is the batt life now on ICS with the new programs.
And which new ones haven hit the market that are better then a year ago..
So for my own experience. Today I did a road trip, had Winamp playing and teethering for about 6 hours..batt was down to about 44% by the end of it.
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The PlayerPro is very good, and its reads the sdcard, i use ubermusic!
PowerAMP
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PowerAMP
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+1 i've tried a few but i keep returning to poweramp
EDIT: I am speaking solely from the standpoint of an audiophile.. if you prefer convenience and the ability to modify album art, id3tags, etc. then PowerAmp has proven to be a little better.. PlayerPro is good with the album art too.. possibly better.. imho it's a toss up between those two (PowerAmp and PlayerPro for music organization and customization).. if you only care about the actual music that is playing then Neutron is your friend.. it has professional grade 32-bit audio rendering.. and is really made for high end devices.. our "trannies" (still love that) would certainly meet those criteria..
Neutron MP hands down.. there is literally no comparison.. you might have to tweak it for a while, but it is unbelievable.. I will be in heaven when SuperCurio has Voodoo stable in ICS.. i might switch all of my audio work onto my tablet when Voodoo is ready..
- One man gathers what another man spills...
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EDIT: I am speaking solely from the standpoint of an audiophile.. if you prefer convenience and the ability to modify album art, id3tags, etc. then PowerAmp has proven to be a little better.. PlayerPro is good with the album art too.. possibly better.. imho it's a toss up between those two (PowerAmp and PlayerPro for music organization and customization).. if you only care about the actual music that is playing then Neutron is your friend.. it has professional grade 32-bit audio rendering.. and is really made for high end devices.. our "trannies" (still love that) would certainly meet those criteria..
Neutron MP hands down.. there is literally no comparison.. you might have to tweak it for a while, but it is unbelievable.. I will be in heaven when SuperCurio has Voodoo stable in ICS.. i might switch all of my audio work onto my tablet when Voodoo is ready..
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I used to be a PowerAmp enthusiast and would not recommend anything else. I am currently trying Neutron and OMFG!!!!!!!!! this thing is amazing it's an absolute beast when payday comes I'm getting off the trial and going full version.
Best sound quality I have ever had on my TF hands down
Any other players you recommend or (off topic) any for the pc you would recommend with the same kind of quality??
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I used to be a PowerAmp enthusiast and would not recommend anything else. I am currently trying Neutron and OMFG!!!!!!!!! this thing is amazing it's an absolute beast when payday comes I'm getting off the trial and going full version.
Best sound quality I have ever had on my TF hands down
Any other players you recommend or (off topic) any for the pc you would recommend with the same kind of quality??
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Isn't Neutron amazing? I love it! It takes a while to get used to, but it is hands down the best player on the market.
As far as PC apps go, I love Foobar2000. It's another app that can take a long time to get used to, but you can do amazing things with it. Head-fi.org has some pretty good info on it as well as setups you can download.
Also, to compliment those apps, you need some good cans. I actually prefer earbuds, but the point is the same. I'm not sure how much money you have, but I will assume that you are like me and you like nice things, but don't necessarily love spending entire paychecks on them. To that end, here's a nice brand not many people know about for headphones - Nuforce (http://www.nuforce.com/hp/reviews-headphones.php). Grab a set of those (V-Moda and Shure are awesome too) and use them with Neutron or Foobar2000. You will hear sounds you never knew existed.
Cheers..
I just use Google's Play Music and stream from the cloud.
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topolovich said:
Isn't Neutron amazing? I love it! It takes a while to get used to, but it is hands down the best player on the market.
As far as PC apps go, I love Foobar2000. It's another app that can take a long time to get used to, but you can do amazing things with it. Head-fi.org has some pretty good info on it as well as setups you can download.
Also, to compliment those apps, you need some good cans. I actually prefer earbuds, but the point is the same. I'm not sure how much money you have, but I will assume that you are like me and you like nice things, but don't necessarily love spending entire paychecks on them. To that end, here's a nice brand not many people know about for headphones - Nuforce (http://www.nuforce.com/hp/reviews-headphones.php). Grab a set of those (V-Moda and Shure are awesome too) and use them with Neutron or Foobar2000. You will hear sounds you never knew existed.
Cheers..
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It's the best and should get advertised alot more people need to know about it!!
Also on the website it mentions 64-bit real time rendering aswell as the 32 but im guessing this is only for devices with neon???? Would love to have that on the tf but 32 is also great.
I did use Foobar2000 for awhile but the UI I just could not live with. I tried winamp meh wasn't that great then tried Music bee currently im on music bee because I cannot for the life of me find anything that sounds better with a nice UI.
I contemplated J-River and the J-Player plugin but could not justify the price of either.
I currently use a pair of sennheiser headphones and was considering a pair of klipsch headphones but they where to expensive for now.
Just had a look at the NE-700x Nuforce headphones and a couple reviews they seem like an amazing set for the price. Are these the ones you have?
Also there is only one distributor in NewZealand and his website does not show the 700's I will ask if he can import but if not I may have to ask you or someone else if I can send money for them plus shipping just to get them to my country.
EDIT: NZ IS USELESS!!!!!! I spoke to the nz importer who does not stock them
Thanks
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Definitely powerAmp
Danzano said:
It's the best and should get advertised alot more people need to know about it!!
Also on the website it mentions 64-bit real time rendering aswell as the 32 but im guessing this is only for devices with neon???? Would love to have that on the tf but 32 is also great.
I did use Foobar2000 for awhile but the UI I just could not live with. I tried winamp meh wasn't that great then tried Music bee currently im on music bee because I cannot for the life of me find anything that sounds better with a nice UI.
I contemplated J-River and the J-Player plugin but could not justify the price of either.
I currently use a pair of sennheiser headphones and was considering a pair of klipsch headphones but they where to expensive for now.
Just had a look at the NE-700x Nuforce headphones and a couple reviews they seem like an amazing set for the price. Are these the ones you have?
Also there is only one distributor in NewZealand and his website does not show the 700's I will ask if he can import but if not I may have to ask you or someone else if I can send money for them plus shipping just to get them to my country.
EDIT: NZ IS USELESS!!!!!! I spoke to the nz importer who does not stock them
Thanks
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I actually got mine from Amazon. I believe they come from NuForce, but Amazon ships them. They came pretty quickly too so I'm guessing Amazon keeps a couple laying around. And yes, I got the NE-700x. From what I hear they are all good though. They have a $25 pair on Amazon that are pretty good too.
Here's the 700x link:
http://www.amazon.com/NuForce-NE-70...NDDG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335582059&sr=8-1
And yeah, Foobar is not the greatest from a UI perspective. I have a bunch of sweet skins for it from deviantart. They actually do wonders for it. I love that player, but when I get a new laptop or new headphones I don't like spending hours tweaking everything so it's just right. There is literally too much you can do with it!
Anyway, good luck with the search and PM me if you need anything...
Cheers..
I just got back from bestbuy after asking them if anyone else was complaining about the I/O performance issues of the TF700T (seems to be an issue with the entire TFP line up).
They showed me the Galaxy Note 10.1 and I have to say it looked impressive. It was very responsive the sylus was nice and the multi screen feature seemed pretty killed (being able to manipulate two apps on screen at once). There was also a way to have overlays of running apps. For example, you could watch a video and have it overlay on top of the other apps you were running.
The whole demo experience was extremely smooth and it looked like it had 2 GB of RAM (I haven't dived into the other specs yet).
The build quality seemed a little cheaper for sure (plastic vs brushed aluminum) but all in all I was much more impressed then I've ever been with my TFP or TFI...
The Transformers / EEE Pad might "look" pretty on the outside but I'm quickly find the parts inside are simply subpar.
If they made a Galaxy Note 10.1 with a keyboard dock with a USB port and SD card I probably wouldn't look back...
How about you guys? is there a way to get these features on all Android tablets? Or are they exclusive to the Galaxy note?
Thanks!
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I just got back from bestbuy after asking them if anyone else was complaining about the I/O performance issues of the TF700T (seems to be an issue with the entire TFP line up).
They showed me the Galaxy Note 10.1 and I have to say it looked impressive. It was very responsive the sylus was nice and the multi screen feature seemed pretty killed (being able to manipulate two apps on screen at once). There was also a way to have overlays of running apps. For example, you could watch a video and have it overlay on top of the other apps you were running.
The whole demo experience was extremely smooth and it looked like it had 2 GB of RAM (I haven't dived into the other specs yet).
The build quality seemed a little cheaper for sure (plastic vs brushed aluminum) but all in all I was much more impressed then I've ever been with my TFP or TFI...
The Transformers / EEE Pad might "look" pretty on the outside but I'm quickly find the parts inside are simply subpar.
If they made a Galaxy Note 10.1 with a keyboard dock with a USB port and SD card I probably wouldn't look back...
How about you guys? is there a way to get these features on all Android tablets? Or are they exclusive to the Galaxy note?
Thanks!
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Well, Samsung's "Multi-Screen" feature probably requires a lot of Samsung Framework that would have to be ported to use with our tablets. On the other hand, there is something called "CornerStone" by Onskreen. Same concept as Samsung's "Multi-Screen" feature. There were I think two builds for the Transformer Prime, but nothing for the Transformer Infinity. I, personally don't know how to port anything but maybe a port will come along sometime in the near future?
Hope this helped you!
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Well, Samsung's "Multi-Screen" feature probably requires a lot of Samsung Framework that would have to be ported to use with our tablets. On the other hand, there is something called "CornerStone" by Onskreen. Same concept as Samsung's "Multi-Screen" feature. There were I think two builds for the Transformer Prime, but nothing for the Transformer Infinity. I, personally don't know how to port anything but maybe a port will come along sometime in the near future?
Hope this helped you!
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Couldn't find it on the market- sideload? https://play.google.com/store/search?q=CornerStone+Onskreen&c=apps
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Couldn't find it on the market- sideload? https://play.google.com/store/search?q=CornerStone+Onskreen&c=apps
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Check floating apps on the market.. or go to the theme and apps section n look for a thread that talks about this
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Cornerstone is dead. Google killed it. And with Asus' IO issues and 1GB of RAM multitasking on Asus tablets would be challenging.
"When the Android team, specifically software engineer Dianne Hackborn, saw plans to implement Cornerstone into the next version of CyanogenMod it became abundantly clear that there were those at Google who did not want this to happen. Hackborn’s comments regarding the announcement began as a plea not to implement a potentially disruptive system and ended with direct threats, complete with consequences should the team move forward with Cornerstone."
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/samsung-adds-multi-window-despite-threat-from-google-2012109/
I can only agree with Barry. Cornerstone is dead, and most likely scenario is that we will never see multiscreen on the tf700. If running app side by side is important to you, you shouldn't get the Infinity at all. There are only 2 options for you: Note 10.1 and Windows RT.
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Cornerstone is dead. Google killed it. And with Asus' IO issues and 1GB of RAM multitasking on Asus tablets would be challenging.
"When the Android team, specifically software engineer Dianne Hackborn, saw plans to implement Cornerstone into the next version of CyanogenMod it became abundantly clear that there were those at Google who did not want this to happen. Hackborn’s comments regarding the announcement began as a plea not to implement a potentially disruptive system and ended with direct threats, complete with consequences should the team move forward with Cornerstone."
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/samsung-adds-multi-window-despite-threat-from-google-2012109/
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That's it I'm getting the Note 10.1. Then again I'm not thinking clearly because I've had two Coors light and 3 shots of Absolute vodka. That's about It... gotta love the auto correction lol.
Yah cornerstone is on hiatus indefinitely
Edit: I shouldn't have mixed my drinks last night
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jjdevega said:
That's it I'm getting the Note 10.1. Then again I'm not thinking clearly because I've had two Coors light and 3 shots of Absolute vodka. That's about It... gotta love the auto correction lol.
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Too funny.
amenic said:
I just got back from bestbuy after asking them if anyone else was complaining about the I/O performance issues of the TF700T (seems to be an issue with the entire TFP line up).
They showed me the Galaxy Note 10.1 and I have to say it looked impressive. It was very responsive the sylus was nice and the multi screen feature seemed pretty killed (being able to manipulate two apps on screen at once). There was also a way to have overlays of running apps. For example, you could watch a video and have it overlay on top of the other apps you were running.
The whole demo experience was extremely smooth and it looked like it had 2 GB of RAM (I haven't dived into the other specs yet).
The build quality seemed a little cheaper for sure (plastic vs brushed aluminum) but all in all I was much more impressed then I've ever been with my TFP or TFI...
The Transformers / EEE Pad might "look" pretty on the outside but I'm quickly find the parts inside are simply subpar.
If they made a Galaxy Note 10.1 with a keyboard dock with a USB port and SD card I probably wouldn't look back...
How about you guys? is there a way to get these features on all Android tablets? Or are they exclusive to the Galaxy note?
Thanks!
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Side by Side is cool feature, but personally I didn't use it much when I had Note. The main reason was side by side worked on only selected apps. For instance, I could not do two browser side by side. I could not read ebook/comic and watch browser flash movie. Polaris was supported for multiscreen, but if I wanted to use other office application then not supported. Though definitely was good feature on paper, but personally felt restrictive, and not as much practical use as I wanted but could be totally different if your use is mainly involving the supported applications.
What I ended up doing was I still used Overskreen, which is available for any android device. And watch flash movie along with reading book etc. Also with Overskreen I could do side by side two browsing. Built in movie player on Note actually allowed floating video, which was cool and useful. But this can be done with market software for any device as well.
Having said this, I think 2GB Rom would definitely help Note even using Overskreen or other floating applications. So if simultaneous multitasking is your major interest, Note is definitely something to consider.
But eventually when Samsung's rumored P10/Nexus 10 releases (probably 2 to 3rd quater of next year my guess), I think most users will converge onto the device from Infinity or Galaxy Note 10.1.
jjdevega said:
That's it I'm getting the Note 10.1. Then again I'm not thinking clearly because I've had two Coors light and 3 shots of Absolute vodka. That's about It... gotta love the auto correction lol.
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You know sometimes alcohol (except tequila ) is a truth serum that give the person abilities to express their inner feelings that they would normally not say. :silly:
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You know sometimes alcohol (except tequila ) is a truth serum that give the person abilities to express their inner feelings that they would normally not say. :silly:
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Yeah, but alcohol is also something that causes people to do stupid things which they later regret! Just saying....
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jtrosky said:
Yeah, but alcohol is also something that causes people to do stupid things which they late regret! Just saying....
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Hahaha Good one, done some of those back in my college years .
junrider said:
You know sometimes alcohol (except tequila ) is a truth serum that give the person abilities to express their inner feelings that they would normally not say. :silly:
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Yeah had a major headach when i woke up this morning:/ Next time I'll stick to just hard liquor.
You may have something there. Although as much as l would like to take the plunge I may find myself missing some of the components the Infinity offers (Hd screen, Keyboard dock with extra batt/sd slot, Hdmi port). I consider myself a Cinephile and ultimately I would be unhappy if I moved away from the HD screen. And extra battery life.
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I can only agree with Barry. Cornerstone is dead, and most likely scenario is that we will never see multiscreen on the tf700. If running app side by side is important to you, you shouldn't get the Infinity at all. There are only 2 options for you: Note 10.1 and Windows RT.
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Wouldn't be an issue if this POS had some reduced disk contention - Thing is about as unpredictable as my wife.
The really annoying part is that the disk is locking up yet I have 200-250 MB of RAM free....
The TFI is not getting multiscreen but it could at least hopefully get proper multitasking =)
I have both devices. I have updated my TF700T to JB but for some reason find myself picking up the Note 10.1 more than the Infinity. I'm not sure why, but the Note seems to just feel better in my hands. Also, front facing speakers do wonders for movie watching. Most vids I watch don't need a HD screen, but, yes I miss it when I'm not watchng on the Infinity.
I don't really use the multiscreen feature much I actually use Overseen all the time. The stylus for the Note is real handy and hand writing recognition on the Note is excellent. I think I'm going to have to do a couple of factory reinstall on my Infinity to get it running real smooth. It's just not there yet even with JB. I do have fewer crashes (browser and email) but on the Note, I never have any!
Hey there guys
I'm confused if i should opt for this tab
i heard many games appear blurry, apps looked stretched?So thats kinda bad, that apps cant make use of the 1080p so should i get this tab?
You should have placed this thread elsewhere
jokapo said:
You should have placed this thread elsewhere
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Yes i posted here by mistake , i opened two tabs one of this and Q & A thought this was q & A
sorry
MODS please move this
Go get your hands on one at Best Buy and check it out.
Don't forget to compare it with other tabs while you're there. The infinity is notorious for being slow.
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R0CKSTAR3N3RGY said:
Go get your hands on one at Best Buy and check it out.
Don't forget to compare it with other tabs while you're there. The infinity is notorious for being slow.
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I can't try any tablets out, cause they din't release in India still now,nexus 7 might come out next month,,,but might be overpriced here :/
Actually i'm asking my uncle whose in USA to get this for me, and only Asus tablets have international warranty
If nexus 7 comes out with 32 gigs ill get that then.
The newest tablets I can compare for you is this and the GNote 10.1
GNote 10.1 runs faster and the s-pen is great
TF700 is a bit laggier but amazing res and yes, a lot of apps aren't that great for 1080p
But we know apps will be
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Lets ignore the higher than average build quality issues, since you can just pick a place that will let you return many times until you get one without visual hardware flaws. (make sure you do that.. pick a place with a good return policy)
I am seriously disappointed in this tablet. (it's my second one) It's really slow and really choppy. I would NOT spend my own money on this device. But that's your decision to make. I shouldn't have to unlock and void my warranty to make my tablet work at an "almost" acceptable level. Running Cleanrom 1.0 makes the tablet way better, but still nowhere near the level an expensive device should be at. I'll try Cleanrom 2.1 tonight.
When I say really slow and choppy, this isn't even with games or items that really tax the resources. This is while using things like Pulse reader.. or pretty much anything that has to scroll or requires multiple touch actions in a row. like open email, scroll to bottom to check something, and press delete all in pretty quick succession. You have to pretty much pause between each screen touch so the tablet can keep up or you get "Application Not Responding". This is likely related to the poor I/O. (my 2 year old phone, and 2 year old ACER dont have this issue)
I helped out a previous employer and was given this tablet as a gift.. I keep it because depending on how you look at it, it wasn't really my hard earned cash that paid for it. I'm sure there are many people out there who love their tablet... But compared to my much older and much lower spec Acer A500 this thing sucks. If you dont NEED the keyboard.. try the Acer A700 instead.
The screen on the TF700 is very nice (the serious light bleed is only really noticeable at start-up). I have had no issues with blurriness or general ugliness. Obviously with the high resolution things must scale and any applications built with low quality graphics will be fuzzy when scaled. This is not an issue with the tablet, but rather with the App developer. Any high res screen will have the same issues until all app devs convert to higher quality graphics.
After dealing with my friends terrible TF201 (prime) and now this TF700 (2 of them).. Which proves ASUS is either not capable of fixing the performance issues, or simply doesn't care. Either way it will take a lot for me to throw any cash toward ASUS in the future.
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In the future, for faster service, and be sure to use the report thread button, and to alert one of us...
Okay, but so so many people say tf700 is really good, Wont JB make it better?
or am i better of getting nexus 7 32 gig + OTG to add my external HDD.
I would love to get the note 10.1, but sadly it doesnt have a international warranty.. and i makes no sense getting it from India as its around 40,000rs(800$)
So,i'll be getting either T700 or Nexus 7 or yea ipad mini(though am not intrested in apples products).
Honestly, i don't know why so many people say bad things about this tablet. No device is perfect, they all have their flaws... you just have to choose which ones are most important to you. Since I've gotten this tablet I've experienced nothing but good things... apps and games are fine and will only get better. Speed is fine with the browser2ram apk installed... and the look and feel of this thing is just amazing. Don't let all the negative comments here mislead you. I was worried when I bought this tablet then came here to read only negative things, but after taking the leap of faith I have no regrets.
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Okay, but so so many people say tf700 is really good, Wont JB make it better?
or am i better of getting nexus 7 32 gig + OTG to add my external HDD.
I would love to get the note 10.1, but sadly it doesnt have a international warranty.. and i makes no sense getting it from India as its around 40,000rs(800$)
So,i'll be getting either T700 or Nexus 7 or yea ipad mini(though am not intrested in apples products).
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No don't get it.
Why?
Because if you can't get rid of it easily after being disappointed then there you are.
Stuck with it...
...unless your not too worried about having a problematic tablet.
Well. i agree with all your point's.
Acer and 2-3 more compaines are coming out with 1080p tabs + htc butterfly which is a 1080p phablet.
So, i assume all these "might" lead to a quality full HD app's?
And does the nexus 7 support OTG
Great now i find out it has dead pixel issues :/
I think it's a good investment. I love the **** out of my Inifnity. Yes, there are some QC issues like light bleed (very little in my case) and screen adhesive issues (again, very little for me) but I still think the price is justified. This is why stores have return policies.The best thing a consumer can do in this case, is to give the company as much feedback as possible. The majority of consumers don't realize how much influence they really have. Even the iPad has issues like these. Granted, Apple customer support is probably a lot more responsive. I still think people should not go into the tablet market, being so young as it is, and expect perfection.
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I wouldn't recommend this tablet. I have had it since it launched and I waited too long to return it.I waited for JB to be released on it. It ran ok with ICS but now that it has JB its pretty sluggish and choppy compared to other tablets in the Transformer line that run JB(which was a huge letdown considering the hardware in this thing). And as of now, there nothing optimized for its 1080p screen. This tablet is just a little too far ahead of its time. If i could make any recommendation, I would say wait until the Nexus 10 is released.
Yea nexus 10 will be too late(and probably when it comes out i wont be able to get it, cause next year my uncle might not come down to india).. now i'm looking into nexus 7,ipad mini and ipad 3 :/
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Well. i agree with all your point's.
Acer and 2-3 more compaines are coming out with 1080p tabs + htc butterfly which is a 1080p phablet.
So, i assume all these "might" lead to a quality full HD app's?
And does the nexus 7 support OTG
Great now i find out it has dead pixel issues :/
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Acer already makes an HD tablet.
That would be the A700...take it from me a former owner.
Don`t go there either.
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so No to ASUS TF700?
Won't custom roms make it better
I say yes if it would be easy to return after buying.
Doesn't sound as though it would be easy for you to return if you had problems.
I would recommend the Infinity with reservations.
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I'l keep this tab on hold
I'll look into ipad mini too
BTW does nexus 7 support OTG,so i can connect my USB drive or HDD
Might be good to check the Nexus forum here at XDA.
From what I read OTG may not be fully supported (read only)
Would you by any chance consider the Windows Surface as an alternative?
Hi, anyone here noticed watching HD videos via the Youtube app to be unsharp, washed out and dropping frame rates? I compared it to my Galaxy Nexus side by side and I noticed that the videos dropping frame rates. Feels like my Galaxy Nexus runs 60fps and the Nexus 5 30fps.
Would like to know if I am the only one experiencing it? Please share your thoughts.
Cheers!
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Hi, anyone here noticed watching HD videos via the Youtube app to be unsharp, washed out and dropping frame rates? I compared it to my Galaxy Nexus side by side and I noticed that the videos dropping frame rates. Feels like my Galaxy Nexus runs 60fps and the Nexus 5 30fps.
Would like to know if I am the only one experiencing it? Please share your thoughts.
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I will definitely agree with you. Video playback (HD even) is not sharp and washed out. Looks almost interpolated for some reason. Tested side by side playing exact same video over fast wifi with a HTC One and a Nokia Windows phone. I thought it was just me, thanks for bringing this to attention... a lot of things annoy me about the N5 but I won't go into that.
If someone is used to premium hardware such as an HTC One, then this is most definitely NOT a phone to "upgrade" to just for the sake of the new OS. N5 is definitely not a premium build, but it's not priced as one either... It is also just not as responsive in many aspects next to my One and I used both for a day. For someone coming from a more inferior handset though, it no doubt would be an upgrade. To each his own
I am seeing this on youtube but not on other apps. Hulu, Netflix, etc... all look great and stream smoothly even on HSPA.
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I will definitely agree with you. Video playback (HD even) is not sharp and washed out. Looks almost interpolated for some reason. Tested side by side playing exact same video over fast wifi with a HTC One and a Nokia Windows phone. I thought it was just me, thanks for bringing this to attention... a lot of things annoy me about the N5 but I won't go into that.
If someone is used to premium hardware such as an HTC One, then this is most definitely NOT a phone to "upgrade" to just for the sake of the new OS. N5 is definitely not a premium build, but it's not priced as one either... It is also just not as responsive in many aspects next to my One and I used both for a day. For someone coming from a more inferior handset though, it no doubt would be an upgrade. To each his own
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Yeah, I think so too. Let's hope this is only related to optimization and not hardware related. I think we need this thread to be active and maybe get the attention of Nexus 5 users and hopefully by Google. I really don't want to think "we got what we paid for"
But for the specs inside this beast, I am expecting a bit more.
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I am seeing this on youtube but not on other apps. Hulu, Netflix, etc... all look great and stream smoothly even on HSPA.
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That's great news! I hope this is only related to the native YouTube app. Thanks for your input!
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That's great news! I hope this is only related to the native YouTube app. Thanks for your input!
Cheers!
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That's a bit better but still ludicrous for a phone with Snapdragon 800. I am guessing it has something to do with 4.4 compatibility. Either way, I hope they fix it before I get my next phone.
Yes, I'm also seeing this issue on my Nexus 5 which is very annoying as YouTube is my most frequently used app :laugh:
For most videos, it's fine, but for video where there are fast action scenes (i.e. sports videos), the problem is very noticeable and the videos are barely watchable.
I was considering selling the phone just because of this and going back to my Nexus 4.
Yeah, the Youtube app is broken. There's a lot of stuttering going on.
Live wallpapers seem to have this problem as well. Please let Google know that this is occurring in their product forums.
Get a device with an amoled screen
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I only use YouTube via Chromecast (sent from my Nexus 5 to my TV) and everything looks great.
The few times I watched anything directly on my phone, everything looked fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676544
There is an alternative app called Viral on the playstore. I've ended up removing the YouTube apk as Viral is simply better but I don't know if it will address all your concerns. I don't notice stuttering on either my N5 or 10 but do see buffering on occasion which is seen on both the stock YouTube app and Viral. Personally I think this is a Google server/services issue or Android bug because Web access is fast when the buffering occurs.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrzheng.supertubeplayer
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