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Just read this article:
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/pho...-s-phones-will-not-see-android-2-2-till-2011/
The Captivate is seriously the best phone I have ever owned and I purchased it the first day it became available. Now I think I should have waited a few months before shelling out $499.99. But I am getting really disappointed with Samsung and just want to sell it soon. If this is JUST 2.2, imagine Gingerbread or Honeycomb? I know that I don't have to wait for the official releases, as I'm running DG's 9.1.3 ROM, but just this lack of support from Samsung AGAIN is annoying. On top of the lack of timely software support we still have the GPS issue. I did almost all of the tricks in these forums and the GPS works when it wants to. I have to have it work all the time. I'm thinking of when these new dual-core phones come out in the coming months of just selling my beloved Captivate and getting something else that's not made by Samsung-- as the only thing I will truly miss will be the screen. At this point Samsung might as well just skip 2.2 and go straight to 2.3 but we know they won't do that. Hopefully the Nexus S turns out to have fewer issues. /rant
Who is the "we" you are referring too? I guess you are a canadian fascinate owner as that is the only model that was stated for a 2011 update to 2.2.
Seriously, you are speculating on an article that is all speculation itself and creating FUD for others.
Just out of curiosity, what froyo features are you waiting for that you want so badly?
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Just read this article:
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/pho...-s-phones-will-not-see-android-2-2-till-2011/
The Captivate is seriously the best phone I have ever owned and I purchased it the first day it became available. Now I think I should have waited a few months before shelling out $499.99. But I am getting really disappointed with Samsung and just want to sell it soon. If this is JUST 2.2, imagine Gingerbread or Honeycomb? I know that I don't have to wait for the official releases, as I'm running DG's 9.1.3 ROM, but just this lack of support from Samsung AGAIN is annoying. On top of the lack of timely software support we still have the GPS issue. I did almost all of the tricks in these forums and the GPS works when it wants to. I have to have it work all the time. I'm thinking of when these new dual-core phones come out in the coming months of just selling my beloved Captivate and getting something else that's not made by Samsung-- as the only thing I will truly miss will be the screen. At this point Samsung might as well just skip 2.2 and go straight to 2.3 but we know they won't do that. Hopefully the Nexus S turns out to have fewer issues. /rant
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Go to Twitter.com/GalaxySSupport and look at how many times they specifically say the Captivate will have Froyo by the end of the year.
From what I understand, it's ATT, not Samsung causing any delay. In any event, I'm fine with 2.1...I don't see the huge features brought by 2.2 anyway
At this point we may as well just wait for someone to cook some gingerbread.
Froyo
According to Samsung Galaxy S Support, we should have 2.2 by the end of this year.
My friend that works for AT&T says that's supposedly they are supposed to update on November 26th but like everyone else I hear dates alot and have stopped holding my breath... Im looking forward to the flash 10.1 in froyo see what more I can do with my phone online its already taken the place of my laptop for reading my morning tech blogs so I can get up and go.
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My friend that works for AT&T says that's supposedly they are supposed to update on November 26th but like everyone else I hear dates alot and have stopped holding my breath... Im looking forward to the flash 10.1 in froyo see what more I can do with my phone online its already taken the place of my laptop for reading my morning tech blogs so I can get up and go.
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Tbh I rarely use flash for anything except maybe a few engadget videos. But I do use my phone more than anything now.
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I don't understand why you're so butt-hurt. Just flash one of the 2.2 ROMs, there are plenty to choose from and they all make the phone experience 100x better.
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Just out of curiosity, what froyo features are you waiting for that you want so badly?
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angry birds...
well isnt this just dandy.... :/
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angry birds...
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You can play angry birds now on 2.1.
take this with a load of salt..
from samsungmobileus twitter on Nov 11th...."we are working on Froyo update for our US Galaxy S phones. It will be available this year. "
here is the post http://twitter.com/SamsungMobileUS/status/2818439500533760
Seriously? Another thread speculating on the froyo release date? You said it yourself... there's a whole development section that has plenty of froyo for you. If you just wanted to use the software your carrier provides, you should have gotten an iphone.
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My friend that works for AT&T says that's supposedly they are supposed to update on November 26th but like everyone else I hear dates alot and have stopped holding my breath... Im looking forward to the flash 10.1 in froyo see what more I can do with my phone online its already taken the place of my laptop for reading my morning tech blogs so I can get up and go.
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I also work at AT&T and i've heard no such date as to when the official 2.2 roll out is going to happen.
yeah if you here a date it is unofficial and subject to change at any moment, usually it will get delayed not pushed up. the att reps i have talked to are kept in the dark until the release day in most cases. the truth is that att is quite lazy.
back in september when we all thought a froyo release was coming soon i spoke to a samsung engineer who quoted "we are working on the froyo update around the clock" and "the wait should not be unusually long" well the lanuage hes used of "working around the clock" put my expectations around november. now who knows.
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Bluetooth voice dialing. Bluetooth sound quality is bad on i9000 kernels used on the captivate.
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Even when the official 2.2 update comes out, I honestly don't see myself, or a lot of the xda community switching over to it. With DG doing great work on the Cog builds and a lot of people following in his footsteps to provide us new roms, the official Samsung and ATT approved updates will always be just mediocre at best.
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Bluetooth voice dialing. Bluetooth sound quality is bad on i9000 kernels used on the captivate.
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Same here...which is why I am seriously looking at this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836243..If for some reason the official version doesn't come out by Thanksgiving...I'll most likely root it and flash the latest Cog rom out at that time.
Mac
I jumped for joy earlier today when i hopped right onto XDA to do my usual look around the forums for the skyrocket. And right infront of me were the words "ICS for SKYROCKET"
I quickly Downloaded the file and went on my way to wait for my phone to be brought back to me...only to figure out that Rogers users were left out in all this fun and joy
To my understanding, hardware is all the same...
What could possibly be done?
Is it best we wait for a work around or have someone create a custom ROM.
(Sorry guys, im new to this whole kernel/rom/rooting thing )
I think we just gotta stick together and wait it out for silver to get his ICS CWM flashable zip working.
Once that happens... do I need to say it?
hahaha i just read the thread that you referred to...reading that just got my heart pumping. Im so anxious!!
If it works, its another reason to sell my customers on the S2
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hahaha i just read the thread that you referred to...reading that just got my heart pumping. Im so anxious!!
If it works, its another reason to sell my customers on the S2
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LOL IKR, I was looking forward to using odin3 last night and my dreams got shattered
Can't wait for Silver to get this live for us. I will proally donate too.
weeeeeee
it looks like he has to do a little more work on it but I'm sure it will be ready tomorrow. I was waiting for him to finish it but I got impatient so I just used the Odin one. Hopefully everyone on Rogers gets ics soon I know how I would be if I was in that position
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it looks like he has to do a little more work on it but I'm sure it will be ready tomorrow. I was waiting for him to finish it but I got impatient so I just used the Odin one. Hopefully everyone on Rogers gets ics soon I know how I would be if I was in that position
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LOL its like right there within our reach! We want it so bad.
How are you liking it so far?
I love it so far. I had to do a factory data reset but after that it works flawlessly. The only thing that doesn't want to work is google wallet
still nothing for rogers users
Guys, be patient.
Silver's working as much as he can. It's only been a day.
and why can't we use odin to install this rom?
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and why can't we use odin to install this rom?
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Because yours has an R at the end of i727
Firmware check wont pass
Check the development forum. There's one rooted ROM for ICS posted that may be worth trying and another one upcoming.
It will come buddy just wait.
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will this work? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566906
Is it just like the leak and can be installed through rom manager over GB?
None work. They all have the most ridiculous lag and everything FCs. Takes like 5 mins to click something. I've flashed em all. The only one that boots up nice is the one in the t989 forum but nothing works (no data etc) so we dont have it
how about this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1567817
Reading through the comments and it seems bearable.
Can you test if LTE works?
kifac said:
how about this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1567817
Reading through the comments and it seems bearable.
Can you test if LTE works?
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It's more than bearable. Very smooth, the bugs that it has seem to be in line with the bugs in the AT&T Odin install. Can't confirm LTE as I don't have it in my area yet.
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It's more than bearable. Very smooth, the bugs that it has seem to be in line with the bugs in the AT&T Odin install. Can't confirm LTE as I don't have it in my area yet.
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Awesome! Ill give LTE a shot one i get my phone back and get this ROM up and running. Another question...did you install from GB?
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Awesome! Ill give LTE a shot one i get my phone back and get this ROM up and running. Another question...did you install from GB?
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Yup, installed from stock GB 2.3.5.
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I know my update to 4.1.1 on my Asus TF300T kept the original stock browser along with flash ran into this article that says the Siii will keep flash that Samsung and Adobe are supporting it.
http://m.christianpost.com/news/android-4-1-jellybean-will-not-remove-flash-from-galaxy-s3-80268/
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I know my update to 4.1.1 on my Asus TF300T kept the original stock browser along with flash ran into this article that says the Siii will keep flash that Samsung and Adobe are supporting it.
http://m.christianpost.com/news/android-4-1-jellybean-will-not-remove-flash-from-galaxy-s3-80268/
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interesting???
With just Samsung and Adobe holding on does it matter?
Sites are still going to want to move to HTML5 and anything else but flash, they're not going to stick with it because some Samsung devices support it and cause complications / shaft everyone else.
I'm surprised to hear this. I thought Flash can't be downloaded anymore on Android so I'm surprised to learn it's still going to be supported at all.
Flash in Jelly Bean
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I'm surprised to hear this. I thought Flash can't be downloaded anymore on Android so I'm surprised to learn it's still going to be supported at all.
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If you go to Google play on your phone it can be problematic. However ( if you have a "compatible device") you can go to google play on a computer, and PUSH it to your device, as I did for my ASUS TF700.
duxup said:
With just Samsung and Adobe holding on does it matter?
Sites are still going to want to move to HTML5 and anything else but flash, they're not going to stick with it because some Samsung devices support it and cause complications / shaft everyone else.
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For now it matters. Yes, sites are going to HTML 5, but they won't all get there overnight. I think it's a little early to pull the plug on supporting Flash.
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I was pretty sure adobe had already announced that they were going to continue to support it by providing security updates and such but you could no longer download it straight from the play store.
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With just Samsung and Adobe holding on does it matter?
Sites are still going to want to move to HTML5 and anything else but flash, they're not going to stick with it because some Samsung devices support it and cause complications / shaft everyone else.
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Yes because if you expect every single Site on the entire Internet to get re-encoded to embedded html5 video you are about as crazy as Steve Jobs.
Flash is quick, dirty, and will play on a Windows 98 machine with ie5 installed.
Try doing that with html5.
Don't get me wrong, flash us a huge pain. It can get buggy, hogs resources to use, and is not as pretty, but once again, flash will remain as a legacy format around the Web in much the same way quicktime is still stuck in sites circa 1999...
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You can still get the apk from adobe too.
but it's pointless becuase flash isn't power efficient and does not fully comfortable for andorid OS
My feelings are that while it is a legacy program its still worth having even if its just set to tap to use because you never know when your going to come across a web site that doesnt use HTML5
My mate purchased a Nexus 7 and it was updated to Jellybean. However he can't use flash now because the creators haven't built it to support anything later than 4.0.x. Will our beloved Notes cease to have flash player too when we finally update? Or is there a work around already in place?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Search around and you can find a apk to install/sideload it yourself so it will work with jb but make sure it's from on here cause there are fakes on the net
Here is the one from the market:
http://db.tt/nVapWrZ1
Thanks mate. Just reading some of the other posts I think it might be because he has chrome which came pre-installed on his nexus. Maybe if I download another browser that might work.
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Yeah chrome doesn't support flash, but most others from the market will support it
Actually, this is because flash has been totally pulled for 4.1 Jelly Bean. This was announced quite a while ago, the talk started about the time of ICS, I think? Not exactly sure when it arose, though.
The reason behind it is simple, though. Flash is out dated. It's actually rather bad because of how buggy it is. Everyone's taking a step away from it now - EVEN Adobe. This has happened due to the power of HTML5. HTML5 fully supports the direct hosting of video and audio components.
I don't know of many places you'd actually need flash. Youtube obviously no longer uses it on their apps (as it's ran by Google. For them to remove flash and totally break one of their biggest internet services is nonsensical.) and the only thing I could think of that you might actually use Flash is if you're doing movie streams. Which, of course, could be problematic.
I'd say you shouldn't try to get flash back. Since it's obsolete and not supported for your device, it will cause some major problems.
Search ..
I saw many different methods to make Flash work on Nexus 7 ..Such as Firefox flash add-on and some other stuffs ..
Search around and you can find a apk to install/sideload it yourself so it will work with jb but make sure it's from on here cause there are fakes on the net
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Search around and you can find a apk to install/sideload it yourself so it will work with jb but make sure it's from on here cause there are fakes on the net
Here is the one from the market:
http://db.tt/nVapWrZ1
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As i see on the google, the adobe say they will not support JB for flash any more, its mean these will be no Flash for JB. I try search flash player and sure dont see it in store now. so nightmare
X-Scope browser is the one that I use on my rooted Fire and it's the only one that I have found that works. I backed up my flash player from my ICS phone and installed on tab.
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Actually, this is because flash has been totally pulled for 4.1 Jelly Bean. This was announced quite a while ago, the talk started about the time of ICS, I think? Not exactly sure when it arose, though.
The reason behind it is simple, though. Flash is out dated. It's actually rather bad because of how buggy it is. Everyone's taking a step away from it now - EVEN Adobe. This has happened due to the power of HTML5. HTML5 fully supports the direct hosting of video and audio components.
I don't know of many places you'd actually need flash. Youtube obviously no longer uses it on their apps (as it's ran by Google. For them to remove flash and totally break one of their biggest internet services is nonsensical.) and the only thing I could think of that you might actually use Flash is if you're doing movie streams. Which, of course, could be problematic.
I'd say you shouldn't try to get flash back. Since it's obsolete and not supported for your device, it will cause some major problems.
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I understand what you are saying, but not everything has not moved away from flash. I agree if you do not use anything that requires it, then don't worry, but there is still a need for Flash. I watch sports on firstrowsports.eu and vipbox.tv on my Fire, rooted with 4.1, and it still requires flash. It is definitely not obsolete, but it is getting there.
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I understand what you are saying, but not everything has not moved away from flash. I agree if you do not use anything that requires it, then don't worry, but there is still a need for Flash. I watch sports on firstrowsports.eu and vipbox.tv on my Fire, rooted with 4.1, and it still requires flash. It is definitely not obsolete, but it is getting there.
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Agreed. Flash has been around for over a decade. You cant just do away with it in a year or two. I agree that high traffic, constantly updated websites are quickly migrating to html5. But that doesnt account for the thousands if not millions of other sites or practical applications that are still in use. For example, i am in college and often times have to watch video lectures...recorded in flash format. Its going to take alot of time, resources, and money for an html5 implementation of all video lectures across every class in my college that has flash video lectures or other applications. Also think of the flash implementations in the business sector. They are not going to spend the time and money converting so quickly especially when what they currently have in flash still works. I understand the need to move away from flash, but to force ppl the way they are is not going to work. They need do move away but at the same time, keep some backwards compatibility. Instead of releasing newer versions with new features, they only continue to release security updates. In the meantime, they can announce that flash will have an End of Life date set for sometime in the future. This will not only give others time to implement html5 but it will also encourage them to move away from a product that will be expiring and move to its successor.
yes!
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Galaxy Note II. EASY PEASY DONE! ALL SMILES
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I just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 from the AT&T store, kinda a spur of the moment thing, I've been wanting it and just kinda went for it. Got it home and couldn't get First Row Sports to work, website would load but video would not show up. I found the APK file posted in there, that goes down to Adobe Flash 11.1, my phone came with 11.2. Now it seems to work, I get video playing on first row sports. Just on "Link 1", but whenever I try to click the red X to close the very bottom ad, over the Fullscreen and volume buttons, the video just freezes. I have to refresh the window to get the video to play again, and i just don't click on the bottom ad to close it out. Does this happen to anyone else or just me, is there a workaround for that?
Did think it was that easy.... had the tablet for 6 months and didn't bother unlocking or rooting cause it looked annoying, can't believe I didn't do it earlier now. I wouldn't say its a completely new tab experience, but I can say Im not thinking about getting s nexus 10 anymore. So if you feel your infinity isnt on par... unlock and root. It's worth it.
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Did think it was that easy.... had the tablet for 6 months and didn't bother unlocking or rooting cause it looked annoying, can't believe I didn't do it earlier now. I wouldn't say its a completely new tab experience, but I can say Im not thinking about getting s nexus 10 anymore. So if you feel your infinity isnt on par... unlock and root. It's worth it.
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I couldn't agree more. Actually I was in the same position and state of mind... You know, all about "what about my warranty etc.".
By the end, I got pissed not using the TF700 just because it was laggy and not as expected. The basic thought was just that I bought a device for 700€, I just need to use it at it's utmost, or at least as I would like to use it.
I took the risk to root, on CM10.1 Nightly. Well, that was quite fast and now it's a new tablet. As Jojo said it definitively worth the switch to a custom rom.
For those who are afraid, as I was, please note that "custom rom" can no more be related to "unstable and testing". There is really reliables and stables release from highly qualified programmers (CM10,AOKP/AOSP, CROMI....).
Unless you only use the tablette to listen music without touching I really recommend to jump on a CRom.
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Did think it was that easy.... had the tablet for 6 months and didn't bother unlocking or rooting cause it looked annoying, can't believe I didn't do it earlier now. I wouldn't say its a completely new tab experience, but I can say Im not thinking about getting s nexus 10 anymore. So if you feel your infinity isnt on par... unlock and root. It's worth it.
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Anyone who thinks that the nexus 10 is a good replacement for the infinity is nuts. I work in a tech store and have access to the nexus 10 and the ipad 4 (or ipad retina), the infinity dances circles around them and is way more productive. The infinity can replace laptops, unless you need high end software to edit videos, pictures, or data (stats software). The development on the infinity also rivals any other device out there. If you install CROMI you will understand, it has better support and updates than any other ROM out there. It also squashes them in terms of performance. At this point no software on my infinty is stock other than apps, and i couldnt be happier. Not many devices have a custom bootloader, kernel, governors, scheduler, ROM, theme, and UI mods that work to create a comprehensive and kickass system.
Agreed
I am with you, I only had my tablet for a month or two before not being able to stand it. But once I put CleanRom on it, it flies. Makes it worth it all the more, and those who have not done it yet, are missing out. However, before doing anything make sure you spend lots and lots of time looking up on how to do so!!!
Tylor
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I am with you, I only had my tablet for a month or two before not being able to stand it. But once I put CleanRom on it, it flies. Makes it worth it all the more, and those who have not done it yet, are missing out. However, before doing anything make sure you spend lots and lots of time looking up on how to do so!!!
Tylor
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Agreed.
I lasted 6 weeks and got pissed off with the constant native browser crashes..several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly. Didn't care about the warranty really, it is only for a year and it looks like I've got a decent device.
After I got over the "scared to break something", it was quite easy. Now just to keep up with the CROMI updates. It doesn't take long to patch at least.
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Agreed.
I lasted 6 weeks and got pissed off with the constant native browser crashes..several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly. Didn't care about the warranty really, it is only for a year and it looks like I've got a decent device.
After I got over the "scared to break something", it was quite easy. Now just to keep up with the CROMI updates. It doesn't take long to patch at least.
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Lol... Yeah you'll get used to my updates
That'll be it for another week hopefully
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Lol... Yeah you'll get used to my updates
That'll be it for another week hopefully
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Apparently!
I noticed that you went from 3.4.2 to 3.4.4 this afternoon!
Great work!
Splitz300 said:
Apparently!
I noticed that you went from 3.4.2 to 3.4.4 this afternoon!
Great work!
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Splitz300 said:
Agreed.
I lasted 6 weeks and got pissed off with the constant native browser crashes..several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly. Didn't care about the warranty really, it is only for a year and it looks like I've got a decent device.
After I got over the "scared to break something", it was quite easy. Now just to keep up with the CROMI updates. It doesn't take long to patch at least.
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So I am in the same boat, 99% ready to root for the same reasons.....Can I ask which method/instructions you ended up using?
CJ
p.s. I am running JB 4.1.1 - 10.4.4.25-20121228
ccjbird said:
So I am in the same boat, 99% ready to root for the same reasons.....Can I ask which method/instructions you ended up using?
CJ
p.s. I am running JB 4.1.1 - 10.4.4.25-20121228
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This thread has it all Also, refer to Post 2 in that same thread for additional stuff.
I think by the time I gathered everything, read as much as possible, it took about 2 hours from start to finish.
There's also a youTube video in that thread. The software that he used was much easier in my opinion.
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several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly.
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If you're having Flash issues, try Boat Browser. Flash works perfectly. It's nice to watch a CNN stream nice and smooth in Flash on this big screen.