My mate purchased a Nexus 7 and it was updated to Jellybean. However he can't use flash now because the creators haven't built it to support anything later than 4.0.x. Will our beloved Notes cease to have flash player too when we finally update? Or is there a work around already in place?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Search around and you can find a apk to install/sideload it yourself so it will work with jb but make sure it's from on here cause there are fakes on the net
Here is the one from the market:
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Thanks mate. Just reading some of the other posts I think it might be because he has chrome which came pre-installed on his nexus. Maybe if I download another browser that might work.
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Yeah chrome doesn't support flash, but most others from the market will support it
Actually, this is because flash has been totally pulled for 4.1 Jelly Bean. This was announced quite a while ago, the talk started about the time of ICS, I think? Not exactly sure when it arose, though.
The reason behind it is simple, though. Flash is out dated. It's actually rather bad because of how buggy it is. Everyone's taking a step away from it now - EVEN Adobe. This has happened due to the power of HTML5. HTML5 fully supports the direct hosting of video and audio components.
I don't know of many places you'd actually need flash. Youtube obviously no longer uses it on their apps (as it's ran by Google. For them to remove flash and totally break one of their biggest internet services is nonsensical.) and the only thing I could think of that you might actually use Flash is if you're doing movie streams. Which, of course, could be problematic.
I'd say you shouldn't try to get flash back. Since it's obsolete and not supported for your device, it will cause some major problems.
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I saw many different methods to make Flash work on Nexus 7 ..Such as Firefox flash add-on and some other stuffs ..
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Search around and you can find a apk to install/sideload it yourself so it will work with jb but make sure it's from on here cause there are fakes on the net
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As i see on the google, the adobe say they will not support JB for flash any more, its mean these will be no Flash for JB. I try search flash player and sure dont see it in store now. so nightmare
X-Scope browser is the one that I use on my rooted Fire and it's the only one that I have found that works. I backed up my flash player from my ICS phone and installed on tab.
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Actually, this is because flash has been totally pulled for 4.1 Jelly Bean. This was announced quite a while ago, the talk started about the time of ICS, I think? Not exactly sure when it arose, though.
The reason behind it is simple, though. Flash is out dated. It's actually rather bad because of how buggy it is. Everyone's taking a step away from it now - EVEN Adobe. This has happened due to the power of HTML5. HTML5 fully supports the direct hosting of video and audio components.
I don't know of many places you'd actually need flash. Youtube obviously no longer uses it on their apps (as it's ran by Google. For them to remove flash and totally break one of their biggest internet services is nonsensical.) and the only thing I could think of that you might actually use Flash is if you're doing movie streams. Which, of course, could be problematic.
I'd say you shouldn't try to get flash back. Since it's obsolete and not supported for your device, it will cause some major problems.
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I understand what you are saying, but not everything has not moved away from flash. I agree if you do not use anything that requires it, then don't worry, but there is still a need for Flash. I watch sports on firstrowsports.eu and vipbox.tv on my Fire, rooted with 4.1, and it still requires flash. It is definitely not obsolete, but it is getting there.
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I understand what you are saying, but not everything has not moved away from flash. I agree if you do not use anything that requires it, then don't worry, but there is still a need for Flash. I watch sports on firstrowsports.eu and vipbox.tv on my Fire, rooted with 4.1, and it still requires flash. It is definitely not obsolete, but it is getting there.
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Agreed. Flash has been around for over a decade. You cant just do away with it in a year or two. I agree that high traffic, constantly updated websites are quickly migrating to html5. But that doesnt account for the thousands if not millions of other sites or practical applications that are still in use. For example, i am in college and often times have to watch video lectures...recorded in flash format. Its going to take alot of time, resources, and money for an html5 implementation of all video lectures across every class in my college that has flash video lectures or other applications. Also think of the flash implementations in the business sector. They are not going to spend the time and money converting so quickly especially when what they currently have in flash still works. I understand the need to move away from flash, but to force ppl the way they are is not going to work. They need do move away but at the same time, keep some backwards compatibility. Instead of releasing newer versions with new features, they only continue to release security updates. In the meantime, they can announce that flash will have an End of Life date set for sometime in the future. This will not only give others time to implement html5 but it will also encourage them to move away from a product that will be expiring and move to its successor.
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I just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 from the AT&T store, kinda a spur of the moment thing, I've been wanting it and just kinda went for it. Got it home and couldn't get First Row Sports to work, website would load but video would not show up. I found the APK file posted in there, that goes down to Adobe Flash 11.1, my phone came with 11.2. Now it seems to work, I get video playing on first row sports. Just on "Link 1", but whenever I try to click the red X to close the very bottom ad, over the Fullscreen and volume buttons, the video just freezes. I have to refresh the window to get the video to play again, and i just don't click on the bottom ad to close it out. Does this happen to anyone else or just me, is there a workaround for that?
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Has anyone heard any new news on the possibility of a Netflix app that streams video on Android? I don't know about you guys but I really really want it! Are there still issues with security and whatnot?
Just curious if anyone has heard anything. They need to get this done!
Still just hearing more about security crap..
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Theres an apk out there, streaming doesn't work tho.
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corenojoe said:
Has anyone heard any new news on the possibility of a Netflix app that streams video on Android? I don't know about you guys but I really really want it! Are there still issues with security and whatnot?
Just curious if anyone has heard anything. They need to get this done!
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Yup, Can't wait for this.
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Yup, Can't wait for this.
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Ya, started watching Scrubs from the beginning last night and it'd be awesome if I could pick up where I left off and watch it on breaks and lunch on my phone while I'm at work. Could kill like a season a day lol
I'm assuming this will be a super noob question as no one ever asks but going to ask anyway.
Why is the Hulu fix/hack/edit any diff than this? So long as we can fool a browser into think it's a full desktop, why couldn't we stream through that instead of depending on an app to do it? #flamejacketon
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I'm assuming this will be a super noob question as no one ever asks but going to ask anyway.
Why is the Hulu fix/hack/edit any diff than this? So long as we can fool a browser into think it's a full desktop, why couldn't we stream through that instead of depending on an app to do it? #flamejacketon
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I can't give a definite answer but I would assume that any content would run smoother/better through the app then a hacked browser.
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IIRC, I believe it's because Netflix streams over the web via Silverlight not Flash. It's easy to hack flash and fool it, but Silverlight is a different story.
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this.
Besides, this same thread has been posted countless times, a simple search would've shown that. We are waiting for it to be released by Netflix, as our processor has the necessary security needed for the app to be released.
I do believe though, that we will have to wait until the LG Revolution is released to the public before we can get the app, as I suspect LG and Netflix have an exclusivity deal going, so LG can sell some phones.
Then again, I may be and have been wrong.
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this.
Besides, this same thread has been posted countless times, a simple search would've shown that. We are waiting for it to be released by Netflix, as our processor has the necessary security needed for the app to be released.
I do believe though, that we will have to wait until the LG Revolution is released to the public before we can get the app, as I suspect LG and Netflix have an exclusivity deal going, so LG can sell some phones.
Then again, I may be and have been wrong.
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Come on LG!
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IIRC, I believe it's because Netflix streams over the web via Silverlight not Flash. It's easy to hack flash and fool it, but Silverlight is a different story.
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I had noticed the last flick I streamed on my laptop used Silverlight, (as far as I knew that was new) but definitely makes sense. Flash is hackable, SL is not.. Got it, thanks.
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I had noticed the last flick I streamed on my laptop used Silverlight, (as far as I knew that was new) but definitely makes sense. Flash is hackable, SL is not.. Got it, thanks.
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Netflix on android won't be using silverlight though. It could use Moonlight http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight, but support for that on linux is far worse than flash and would probably be even more of a battery killer, so I'm guessing they will port whatever they use for iOS on the iphone/ipad to android.
There's no way the iphone version of netflix (which has been out for a while) uses silverlight (jobs would never allow that), so I am guessing they will probably just use the same libraries for android that they have for iOS and create a wrapper around that with java to create an executable.
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I had noticed the last flick I streamed on my laptop used Silverlight, (as far as I knew that was new) but definitely makes sense. Flash is hackable, SL is not.. Got it, thanks.
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Netflix has always used silverlight, at least as far as I have known. And yareally
is probably right about how they are going to go about it.
The main reason why Winmo 7 had/has so fast netflix is because of silverlight and the native ability (I believe) for it to run on winmo.
http://phandroid.com/2011/11/09/ado...player-for-mobile-focusing-instead-on-html-5/
so, adobe will stop releasing flash player for android.
RUMOR is that it will stay on the market but won't ever be updated, or brought to more devices.
am i the only one who's horrified by this?
Sad. But it still sort of continues. It is said that security updates will still come for it, and it's content is still in Adobe Air (applications will still be able to use it but not browsers). More info here: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Flas...n-the-Desktop-and-Mobile-Devices-233521.shtml and here: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mobi...her-Users-nor-Adobe-Will-Miss-It-233474.shtml.
Don't be horrified. Times are changing—nothing more, nothing less.
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Don't be horrified. Times are changing—nothing more, nothing less.
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So there's hardly any user that is going to miss it. Sure, there'll be the occasional die hard fan who will come out and say that Flash is critical on mobile phones and that the world can't go on without it, but for regular users the move makes little difference.
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See, that's where I disagree. My phone (which all around sucks) doesn't support flash, and because of that I have to go to my laptop for half my web browsing, regardless of what everyone says, without flash, the internet sucks. Most web pages use flash, not HTML5. We're going back to the pre-froyo days with this decision.
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See, that's where I disagree. My phone (which all around sucks) doesn't support flash, and because of that I have to go to my laptop for half my web browsing, regardless of what everyone says, without flash, the internet sucks. Most web pages use flash, not HTML5. We're going back to the pre-froyo days with this decision.
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Be paitent. HTML5 will become more common; Flash will become less. It's a time of transition, a time of change. It's the future, so don't *****.
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Be paitent. HTML5 will become more common; Flash will become less. It's a time of transition, a time of change. It's the future, so don't *****.
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Not *****ing - pointing out why this is bad.
I'm all for HTML5, but killing off flash for android because HTML5 exists is about as stupid as a carrier shutting down all data networks because they've put up a couple 4g towers - the majority of the internet is still using flash, and to axe flash now is incredibly premature. There is so little infrastructure for HTML5 that more people are going to be harmed than helped by this.
Please excuse this mobile-technology challenged individual, but can HTML5 browsers on a smartphone play video and streaming video content that was originally developed with Flash?
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http://phandroid.com/2011/11/09/ado...player-for-mobile-focusing-instead-on-html-5/
so, adobe will stop releasing flash player for android.
RUMOR is that it will stay on the market but won't ever be updated, or brought to more devices.
am i the only one who's horrified by this?
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not just android
for all mobile devices, including windows, webos, mac, BB, even PCs etc
personally, i'm glad it's dying, annoying to have to install that damn plugin to be able to see anything.
hurray! to HTML5 and active web contents
long live the web!
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Not *****ing - pointing out why this is bad.
I'm all for HTML5, but killing off flash for android because HTML5 exists is about as stupid as a carrier shutting down all data networks because they've put up a couple 4g towers - the majority of the internet is still using flash, and to axe flash now is incredibly premature. There is so little infrastructure for HTML5 that more people are going to be harmed than helped by this.
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"Kill" and "axe" are too harsh of words. What they're doing is not going to affect flash at all on current devices. It will stay the same, just won't progress. So your anology isn't really correct. They're not "shutting down all data networks because they've put up a couple 4g towers," they are "letting you continue to use the current data network while focusing their resources on 4g."
No one will be harmed. Everyone will continue doing what they're doing. Even you, someone without flash, will just continue doing what you're already doing. And if you want flash? Get a capable device.
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correct me if i'm wrong, but "security updates only" and "not expanding its market" seems to me to mean that flash will not be made available to new devices, meaning only older devices can run flash. so if you want to actually see all of the internet, which uses WAY more flash then HTML5, you have to get an old, underpowered device? really?
In all honestly, I have probably used flash like 2 times. I don't even watch Youtube videos on my phone.
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I use my phone for music and flash more than anything, and this does nothing but piss me off!!! I use flash ona daily basis, and this means I will have a 6-8 month transition period where content will start ceasing to load while I'm waiting for the world to transition into html5
This is bull****, and I think adobe need to re-evaluate their heads!!!
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not just android
for all mobile devices, including windows, webos, mac, BB, even PCs etc
personally, i'm glad it's dying, annoying to have to install that damn plugin to be able to see anything.
hurray! to HTML5 and active web contents
long live the web!
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Actually, they said that they will continue it (for a very long time) for PCs.
Mobile browsing is rapidly becoming the primary browsing method, and adobe makes a decision like this... Are they stupid?
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I use my phone for music and flash more than anything, and this does nothing but piss me off!!! I use flash ona daily basis, and this means I will have a 6-8 month transition period where content will start ceasing to load while I'm waiting for the world to transition into html5
This is bull****, and I think adobe need to re-evaluate their heads!!!
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QFT!
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Mobile browsing is rapidly becoming the primary browsing method, and adobe makes a decision like this... Are they stupid?
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very valid point. (and yes, i think they are.)
mtmerrick said:
correct me if i'm wrong, but "security updates only" and "not expanding its market" seems to me to mean that flash will not be made available to new devices, meaning only older devices can run flash. so if you want to actually see all of the internet, which uses WAY more flash then HTML5, you have to get an old, underpowered device? really?
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I'm not entirely sure. Do they release a different version of flash for each and every device? Do they have to change the flash download each time a new device comes out in order to support that device?
Again, I don't know enough to say yes or no on this one, but considering the amount of updates I see Flash getting on the Android market, I'm inclined to say this isn't entirely correct.
hp420 said:
I use my phone for music and flash more than anything, and this does nothing but piss me off!!! I use flash ona daily basis, and this means I will have a 6-8 month transition period where content will start ceasing to load while I'm waiting for the world to transition into html5
This is bull****, and I think adobe need to re-evaluate their heads!!!
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Well you still can watch flash on your device, so what are you getting so upset about?
Some people certainly are resistant to change.
This is bad news, the recent Flash 11 update finally felt nice and stable on my Droid 3. Being able to view flash elements full screen solves input issues.
The popular sites like Youtube, etc have HTML5 support in the works but there are many other smaller sites that will be on flash for a while. I'm backing up a copy of the flash player apk in case Adobe decides to pull it from the market. I wonder if flash will work on ICS or future browser versions?
Even without updates Flash 11 will still be plenty for a couple years as long as it works. Youtube only requires version 8 which came out in 2005, although it recommends 10 for the latest features which came out in 2008. This means Flash 11 should be fine for at least a few years and if Flash is really a dying breed, the sites that require the latest and greatest will have an HTML5 alternative by then. Older sites still done in Flash won't require a new version. But I don't know much about the Android plugin system.
I'm still thinking about my Droid 3 which has the Adobe Flash logo right on the box. This was a selling point of many Android phones. I wonder how long they will ship new phones with Flash.
I don't think i've ever used flash on my phone, don't watch youtube videos for one. Everything is moving towards HTML5 for they are doing in the right thing in putting more time into that but they really should still support flash at the same time. It still has it's uses despite being limited compared to HTML5.
i don't really know what to think of this, i guess the only way i could find out is it if disappeared so that i could see how it affects me.
Just came across this article. "On Wednesday, Adobe said its upcoming release of Flash Player 11.1 for Android and the BlackBerry PlayBook will be the platform's final mobile update"
http://www.modernghana.com/news/360192/1/did-steve-jobs-kill-adobe-flash.html
Time to learn HTML5 or Adobe Air and cash in! lol
Personally, I'm not too overjoyed or saddened. It offered a lot of compatibility but was a performance hog and security hole. Hopefully whatever comes next is better (although if Adobe still has their hands in it.....).
Speaking of which, doesn't Hulu use flash? I wonder what they are going to do now. It's probably too much to hope for that their regular/free site will be easily accessible to everyone again.
Does anyone know which of the web based media players use flash on Android Phones? For some reason I thought Netflix was a Flash based on Android, but I'm probably wrong.
Yes, Hulu & Netflix require flash support for our device right now. Development has ceased but this doesn't mean that adobe is pulling the app. From what it looks like, we will be able to ride it out with our existing flash play (or recently updated 11.1) until the apps are re-made to work with HTML5 or something else (here's an old video: http://youtu.be/aVjIsL8qwNw)
Well that sucks
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/sigh, oh well, at least this announcement came after a certain arrogant person died, otherwise theyd be all proud and say "I told ya so"
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/sigh, oh well, at least this announcement came after a certain arrogant person died, otherwise theyd be all proud and say "I told ya so"
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Yeah, that wasn't needed.
I personally am not bothered. I think I only used flash like once or twice and recall it loading up fine, but interactivity seemed to be an issue.
Wow. This is something else.
Searched but didn't find this posted yet.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/28/adobe-confirms-it-wont-support-flash-on-android-4-1/
And from the horse's mouth...
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/06/flash-player-and-android-update.html
I too read this and became quite alarmed. I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this. I seriously hate how everyone is pushing apps when a flash equipped browser can handle a lot more in a more efficient way.
So anyway, will there be a solution to this? Will we be able to port flash from ICS to Jellybean? Any input would be greatly appreciated.
google is integrating flash into chrome for android
antwan* said:
I too read this and became quite alarmed. I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this. I seriously hate how everyone is pushing apps when a flash equipped browser can handle a lot more in a more efficient way.
So anyway, will there be a solution to this? Will we be able to port flash from ICS to Jellybean? Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Not entirely true.. flash on mobile device doesn't perform as well as their desktop counterpart.. beside, who would use flash on mobile anyway? Play flash games? Proof that android is superior to iOS? That's just silly..
I'm not offending Apple.. they're right, HTML5 is a much efficient way to deliver content on websites.. it'll save time, money and effort for web designers..
About the port, i think it's very possible.. someone could try pull the flash player from ics and install it on JB..
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We can always sideload it, the current version works in JB. Flash will be phased out and replaced with HTML5 eventually anyway
I've just backed up the latest Flash APK to Dropbox... you know..just in case
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Actually it says in the final two paragraphs of their blog that adobe won't support flash but that developers will be able to download unsupported versions, obviously not updated of course.
But yes it is true chrome on 4.1 will also not support flash. But of course we can do as ios users have to and use browsers that do support flash.
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I've just backed up the latest Flash APK to Dropbox... you know..just in case
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Isnt that a form of pirating? (Gotta admit though, When my phone was fast, I was able to sideload apps, Now its acting weird, very laggy)
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Isnt that a form of pirating? (Gotta admit though, When my phone was fast, I was able to sideload apps, Now its acting weird, very laggy)
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Flash 11 is free?
And plus, its a system app on my phone so...
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I fail to see why this is a big deal. Flash has been on its way out the door even in the desktop realm for a while now.
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Seems a little unnecessary as Adobe themselves said all the released versions will be available from them.
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I fail to see why this is a big deal. Flash has been on its way out the door even in the desktop realm for a while now.
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It's a big deal because there are still many websites that are flash based.
Way back when, the main reason I upgraded from a MT3G, to 4G was so I could access those sites. Now I'm back where I started until all those companies redesign their websites.
What Adobe should be doing is immediately discontinuing Flash updates and support for ALL platforms, which would force everyone to immediately redesign their sites instead of leaving mobile users out in the cold.
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I always have flash turned off on my phone anyway.
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Kind of weird that people are taking it somewhat lightly. I always heard android users claiming that it's one of the things that out-shinned the iPhone.
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It's a big deal because there are still many websites that are flash based.
Way back when, the main reason I upgraded from a MT3G, to 4G was so I could access those sites. Now I'm back where I started until all those companies redesign their websites.
What Adobe should be doing is immediately discontinuing Flash updates and support for ALL platforms, which would force everyone to immediately redesign their sites instead of leaving mobile users out in the cold.
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I couldn't agree more. People are always quick to say, "oh but flash is dead, blah blah, you don't need flash, it sucks on mobile"
I'd like to remind everyone that the needs of one are not the needs of all. Many sites unfortunately still rely on Flash, and not being able to have a device that can access such content is frankly limiting. If I wanted to be limited I'd be on iOS or Windows Phone. Now I'm not saying Android reigns superior to all, of course it has it's faults but it does provide a lot of utility and freedom.
I would love if everyone was on HTML5 and Flash was no more. However that is not the reality. We're in the year 2012 and our mobile OS's are capable of so much, we have quad core equipped devices with 2 GB of DDR3 RAM. So to say Flash doesn't work is not the case anymore. Flash works incredibly well.
While Apps might be convenient for some things, they can't replace everything in the web. Also it's not very ideal to have to download and bog down our devices with countless of apps to replace the functionality of what can already be achieved with a Flash equipped browser. What Flash equipped mobile devices did was make people paranoid that people wouldn't purchase as many Apps from an App Market. So frankly, I'm disappointed that Adobe caved and killed off Flash for mobile devices. Also XDA is where people come to be freed of mass consumerism and root and hack their devices and come up with solutions to walled garden implementations incorporated by companies aiming to sell dumbed down versions of what their OS can really accomplish, in order to sell to the mases; so it's a bit upsetting that I need to make this argument because some people are content or can't see Flash work for them.
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It's a big deal because there are still many websites that are flash based.
Way back when, the main reason I upgraded from a MT3G, to 4G was so I could access those sites. Now I'm back where I started until all those companies redesign their websites.
What Adobe should be doing is immediately discontinuing Flash updates and support for ALL platforms, which would force everyone to immediately redesign their sites instead of leaving mobile users out in the cold.
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Agreed. Granted that not a lot of websites *depend* on flash to work, but when you do come across one that uses flash, it's certainly nice to be able to use the whole website.
Even just a "current version" with nothing but security and bug fixes would seem like a goo idea, not just cut dry...
Why dont we create a petition to resume Flash development for Android?
HTML5 won)) As Jobs said
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Why dont we create a petition to resume Flash development for Android?
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Too many petitions already
1. Windows Phone dilemma( about 1000 of them)
2. Apple and the Nexus( about 100 of them)
Mixed feelings..Although I'm not surprised since Adobe had previously announced they were dropping development of Flash for mobile devices.
And yes although my device has Adobe Flash I rarely enable it because it runs like a pig (although it is nice having the option to view websites on my phone just like on my PC).
I'm also against app-ahhrea - all these apps to access the same content as a web browser but with new and improved battery suck background processes.
I would much rather Adobe Flash die and HTML5 start taking foothold but until Adobe announces they are discontinuing Adobe Flash development altogether there will still be a significant amount of Flash websites that won't be usable on mobile devices.
On a side note Microsoft has announced Win 8 / IE10 will have Adobe Flash integrated instead of being an add-on like before. Does anyone know if Win 8 tablets / phones will have Adobe Flash built-in?
I would like one of two things to happen:
1) More websites switch from Adobe to HTML5 rendering Flash as significant as Realplayer.
2) Adobe resuming mobile development of Flash so we have a more efficient and usable version for our mobile devices.
Most websites I frequent have mobile versions which load very fast and I use them most of the time. Sometimes the mobile versions are missing content the full website has so I switch from mobile to desktop view - and I occasionally enable Flash if the website requires it.
But please not another app to access a website!
I know my update to 4.1.1 on my Asus TF300T kept the original stock browser along with flash ran into this article that says the Siii will keep flash that Samsung and Adobe are supporting it.
http://m.christianpost.com/news/android-4-1-jellybean-will-not-remove-flash-from-galaxy-s3-80268/
amebiasis said:
I know my update to 4.1.1 on my Asus TF300T kept the original stock browser along with flash ran into this article that says the Siii will keep flash that Samsung and Adobe are supporting it.
http://m.christianpost.com/news/android-4-1-jellybean-will-not-remove-flash-from-galaxy-s3-80268/
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interesting???
With just Samsung and Adobe holding on does it matter?
Sites are still going to want to move to HTML5 and anything else but flash, they're not going to stick with it because some Samsung devices support it and cause complications / shaft everyone else.
I'm surprised to hear this. I thought Flash can't be downloaded anymore on Android so I'm surprised to learn it's still going to be supported at all.
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rednukleus said:
I'm surprised to hear this. I thought Flash can't be downloaded anymore on Android so I'm surprised to learn it's still going to be supported at all.
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If you go to Google play on your phone it can be problematic. However ( if you have a "compatible device") you can go to google play on a computer, and PUSH it to your device, as I did for my ASUS TF700.
duxup said:
With just Samsung and Adobe holding on does it matter?
Sites are still going to want to move to HTML5 and anything else but flash, they're not going to stick with it because some Samsung devices support it and cause complications / shaft everyone else.
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For now it matters. Yes, sites are going to HTML 5, but they won't all get there overnight. I think it's a little early to pull the plug on supporting Flash.
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I was pretty sure adobe had already announced that they were going to continue to support it by providing security updates and such but you could no longer download it straight from the play store.
duxup said:
With just Samsung and Adobe holding on does it matter?
Sites are still going to want to move to HTML5 and anything else but flash, they're not going to stick with it because some Samsung devices support it and cause complications / shaft everyone else.
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Yes because if you expect every single Site on the entire Internet to get re-encoded to embedded html5 video you are about as crazy as Steve Jobs.
Flash is quick, dirty, and will play on a Windows 98 machine with ie5 installed.
Try doing that with html5.
Don't get me wrong, flash us a huge pain. It can get buggy, hogs resources to use, and is not as pretty, but once again, flash will remain as a legacy format around the Web in much the same way quicktime is still stuck in sites circa 1999...
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You can still get the apk from adobe too.
but it's pointless becuase flash isn't power efficient and does not fully comfortable for andorid OS
My feelings are that while it is a legacy program its still worth having even if its just set to tap to use because you never know when your going to come across a web site that doesnt use HTML5