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Has anyone heard any new news on the possibility of a Netflix app that streams video on Android? I don't know about you guys but I really really want it! Are there still issues with security and whatnot?
Just curious if anyone has heard anything. They need to get this done!
Still just hearing more about security crap..
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corenojoe said:
Has anyone heard any new news on the possibility of a Netflix app that streams video on Android? I don't know about you guys but I really really want it! Are there still issues with security and whatnot?
Just curious if anyone has heard anything. They need to get this done!
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Yup, Can't wait for this.
LadyAngler said:
Yup, Can't wait for this.
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Ya, started watching Scrubs from the beginning last night and it'd be awesome if I could pick up where I left off and watch it on breaks and lunch on my phone while I'm at work. Could kill like a season a day lol
I'm assuming this will be a super noob question as no one ever asks but going to ask anyway.
Why is the Hulu fix/hack/edit any diff than this? So long as we can fool a browser into think it's a full desktop, why couldn't we stream through that instead of depending on an app to do it? #flamejacketon
DNak206 said:
I'm assuming this will be a super noob question as no one ever asks but going to ask anyway.
Why is the Hulu fix/hack/edit any diff than this? So long as we can fool a browser into think it's a full desktop, why couldn't we stream through that instead of depending on an app to do it? #flamejacketon
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I can't give a definite answer but I would assume that any content would run smoother/better through the app then a hacked browser.
newalker91 said:
IIRC, I believe it's because Netflix streams over the web via Silverlight not Flash. It's easy to hack flash and fool it, but Silverlight is a different story.
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this.
Besides, this same thread has been posted countless times, a simple search would've shown that. We are waiting for it to be released by Netflix, as our processor has the necessary security needed for the app to be released.
I do believe though, that we will have to wait until the LG Revolution is released to the public before we can get the app, as I suspect LG and Netflix have an exclusivity deal going, so LG can sell some phones.
Then again, I may be and have been wrong.
IISiDeK1CKII said:
this.
Besides, this same thread has been posted countless times, a simple search would've shown that. We are waiting for it to be released by Netflix, as our processor has the necessary security needed for the app to be released.
I do believe though, that we will have to wait until the LG Revolution is released to the public before we can get the app, as I suspect LG and Netflix have an exclusivity deal going, so LG can sell some phones.
Then again, I may be and have been wrong.
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Come on LG!
newalker91 said:
IIRC, I believe it's because Netflix streams over the web via Silverlight not Flash. It's easy to hack flash and fool it, but Silverlight is a different story.
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I had noticed the last flick I streamed on my laptop used Silverlight, (as far as I knew that was new) but definitely makes sense. Flash is hackable, SL is not.. Got it, thanks.
DNak206 said:
I had noticed the last flick I streamed on my laptop used Silverlight, (as far as I knew that was new) but definitely makes sense. Flash is hackable, SL is not.. Got it, thanks.
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Netflix on android won't be using silverlight though. It could use Moonlight http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight, but support for that on linux is far worse than flash and would probably be even more of a battery killer, so I'm guessing they will port whatever they use for iOS on the iphone/ipad to android.
There's no way the iphone version of netflix (which has been out for a while) uses silverlight (jobs would never allow that), so I am guessing they will probably just use the same libraries for android that they have for iOS and create a wrapper around that with java to create an executable.
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I had noticed the last flick I streamed on my laptop used Silverlight, (as far as I knew that was new) but definitely makes sense. Flash is hackable, SL is not.. Got it, thanks.
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Netflix has always used silverlight, at least as far as I have known. And yareally
is probably right about how they are going to go about it.
The main reason why Winmo 7 had/has so fast netflix is because of silverlight and the native ability (I believe) for it to run on winmo.
IS this possible ? I know I know why would I want to.... Personally its the whole sh1t @ss media setup android has. Dont get me started on browsers.
I thought I read winmo has some kind of indentifier? Is this true? IF not are there any 8mp wp7 phones ?
Let the flamming begin my skin is made of asbestos!
I'd be interested in trying this out too. There was a project to create on on another Android Device, I just can't remember which one.
My grandparents always had this saying: **** in one hand and wish in the other. See which fills up faster.
I still to this day have no clue what that means but I feel like it applies here.
Just funning. This would be something I'd want too but I believe it's near impossible without a companion device on that OS a la HD2/EVO/HD7. That's why the HD2 can dual-boot all those OSes.
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IS this possible ? I know I know why would I want to.... Personally its the whole sh1t @ss media setup android has. Dont get me started on browsers.
I thought I read winmo has some kind of indentifier? Is this true? IF not are there any 8mp wp7 phones ?
Let the flamming begin my skin is made of asbestos!
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The closest your gonna get for now is the Launcher 7 app. Its free from the market.
Unfortunately (Or fortunately imo), this is likely never going to happen. It's just not possible with the extra security that MS has employed, and it would in all honesty be a waste of time. There isn't anything WM7 can do that Android can't. (AFAIK.)
Yea it would be definitely unique for them to make that possible...sort of like how they're trying to port android to the HD7...this could be a sort of new age HD2 LOL...you know without Wm of course
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Ive also read security is tough. they went the extra mile and there are a few hardware signatures.
I would be interested in seeing this happen for an N1 or G2x simply out of curiousity because i dont see myself ever leaving android let alone to buy a windows phone. a port would allow me to try it out for a while ( i think i know 1 person that has a WP7 ) lol
Id be curious to see how well it integrates to the PC and XBOX 360. ever since the windows smartphone became an Idea they killed the ability to see my android on the xbox which is a shame.
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There isn't anything WM7 can do that Android can't.
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Windows mobile 7 can multitask WAY better than Android. Try streaming audio or video in one window then open another and surf while trying to listen to the streaming audio/video in the first browser window that was active. On Android the audio/video streaming will cease, on Windows 7 you can browse on the newly opened window while the audio/video streaming from the first window will still be active and playing in the background for you to listen to.
Also, with all my reading and researching on other android forums and devices, it seems Android as an operating system is a huge battery drainer even when you're not activley using the handset/device. Windows mobile 7 won't have a horrible battery drain like Android when just on standby. My assumption on this is that google really wants to "listen" in on you, after all they are part of this "big brother" movement.
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My assumption on this is that google really wants to "listen" in on you, after all they are part of this "big brother" movement.
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Riiight. because everyone that has developed roms and code for android just ignores that and lets google "listen in"
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Windows mobile 7 can multitask WAY better than Android. Try streaming audio or video in one window then open another and surf while trying to listen to the streaming audio/video in the first browser window that was active. On Android the audio/video streaming will cease, on Windows 7 you can browse on the newly opened window while the audio/video streaming from the first window will still be active and playing in the background for you to listen to.
Also, with all my reading and researching on other android forums and devices, it seems Android as an operating system is a huge battery drainer even when you're not activley using the handset/device. Windows mobile 7 won't have a horrible battery drain like Android when just on standby. My assumption on this is that google really wants to "listen" in on you, after all they are part of this "big brother" movement.
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Someone seems a little paranoid Also: http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/android-rim-apple-comscore.png
P.S. Sorry to continue the off topic-ness...as far as your question goes OP, I doubt that it will ever happen because it would be hard to accomplish in the first place (due to security and compatibility with hardware) and I'm not sure that a lot of developers would be interested in undertaking this project.
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P.S. Sorry to continue the off topic-ness...as far as your question goes OP, I doubt that it will ever happen because it would be hard to accomplish in the first place (due to security and compatibility with hardware) and I'm not sure that a lot of developers would be interested in undertaking this project.
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Agreed, I can't imagine any devs putting in the HUGE effort it would take to port WP7 to this device given the lack of demand for such a port (most people who want WP7 buy a phone with WP7). That said, it would be a great technical accomplishment and just plain cool.
my whole thing is (and heres where I debunk the whole android is superior myth)
is im a media guy: internet music videos etc. And im sorry but android SUCKS and FAILS massively with that. and of course theres the whole stupid file management thing(why is there not a native file explorer like windows?).
and then the biggest android fail: web browsing.
it just sucks on android. I mean its awful. WHy is the native browser so... crappy? I feel its bs that i have to "get an app for that" when it seems to me it should be part of the native OS. I know...its a phone. But whotf uses "mobile version" websites? what is this symbian? And why has no one made an ap for the ua debug ? I want to open my browser and go to ANY website I want in FULL desktop view. JUST LIKE WINDOWS. WITHOUT having to type in "aboutdebug" go to settings etc... really getting old
Skyfires ok...but... some websites(like my bank ) dont work. ANd pay for video??? sigh. at least they have a UA psuedo ap at the top.
and again poor media structure...No music or video looping...the list goes on.
MAybe you guys have suggestions. I also HATE that all my media shows up in gallery. grrr ...gallery blows. I dont want to "hide" my files I just want to seperate them and not have them all open up in "gallery".
SO yes windows phones DO have some advanteges over android. Too bad windows phones suck at everything else.
MS kills me when they advertise wp7 has "thousands" of apps. its like when some loacl band compares them selves to a bigger badn" we have hundreds of fans"...k.
back to my rant ....WHy does android have the UA set this anyways its totally fkn (insert deragatory tasteless term here for all you pc bishes).
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freakboy13 said:
WHy does android have the UA set this anyways its totally fkn [email protected]
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Please don't use gay as a derogatory term or put down. It's tasteless.
freakboy13 said:
my whole thing is (and heres where I debunk the whole android is superior myth)
is im a media guy: internet music videos etc. And im sorry but android SUCKS and FAILS massively with that. and of course theres the whole stupid file management thing(why is there not a native file explorer like windows?).
and then the biggest android fail: web browsing.
it just sucks on android. I mean its awful. WHy is the native browser so... crappy? I feel its bs that i have to "get an app for that" when it seems to me it should be part of the native OS. I know...its a phone. But whotf uses "mobile version" websites? what is this symbian? And why has no one made an ap for the ua debug ? I want to open my browser and go to ANY website I want in FULL desktop view. JUST LIKE WINDOWS. WITHOUT having to type in "aboutdebug" go to settings etc... really getting old
Skyfires ok...but... some websites(like my bank ) dont work. ANd pay for video??? sigh. at least they have a UA psuedo ap at the top.
and again poor media structure...No music or video looping...the list goes on.
MAybe you guys have suggestions. I also HATE that all my media shows up in gallery. grrr ...gallery blows. I dont want to "hide" my files I just want to seperate them and not have them all open up in "gallery".
SO yes windows phones DO have some advanteges over android. Too bad windows phones suck at everything else.
MS kills me when they advertise wp7 has "thousands" of apps. its like when some loacl band compares them selves to a bigger badn" we have hundreds of fans"...k.
back to my rant ....WHy does android have the UA set this anyways its totally fkn [email protected]
I dont mind the off topic comments
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I love Android...and completely disagree with all (almost all) of your points...but you are entitled to your opinion. I have to wonder though why you would go on an Android forum and rant against Android...seems a little trollish. Sure WP7 has some advantages over Android (not sure what they are)...peas have some advantages over carrots...but they aren't the same thing and if I want peas I don't eat carrots (and then complain about the carrots). Maybe you should sell your g2x (assuming you have one) and get a WP7 phone. Not trying to be an ass. Just don't understand where you're coming from.
But like I said, a WP7 port would be cool from a technical standpoint.
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Please don't use gay as a derogatory term or put down. It's tasteless.
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hiko36 said:
Please don't use gay as a derogatory term or put down. It's tasteless.
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yeah ok "storm" ... I changed it so you dont cry to mommy that i hurt your feelings but fyi I didnt type "gay".... can we get back to topic now? ill try n watch my p's n q's. Funny how every one can say the f word and all kind of swearing on this forum, but the minute i use the word gay someone has to whine about it. WHy dont you look up the original context of the term ghey and how its NOT a deragatory term. SOme people got to much time on their hands. Man up will ya?
for the file explorer there are plenty of free great apps.
for the browser Its not as great as my desktop but i use it often and don't have any issues. the mobile version of websites is becoming more common and when the web admin does a good job the mobile specific version is laid out better. for example sun-trust mobile. I don't even miss having an app the mobile site is so well laid out
when I need a desktop version in CM7 i just select "change user agent" under settings. if you don't like that there is always Firefox which isnt perfect but i love the syncing favs/passwords with desktop.
I will however agree with the lack of "pizzaz and wow" with media. and i REALLY agree with you on the featureless gallery and not being able to better organize it.
Just remember the whole point in android isn't to have everything set up just the way YOU like it right away. not everyone likes the same thing. the beauty in android is if you don't like it you can easily change it.
think of it this way.. the Iphone is a great phone for many people. but if you don't like the way something works or don't like Itunes you are pretty much S.O.L
once you get everything set and dialed in you wont ever want to part with your android and most other phone users are jealous
that being said.. again i really do agree with you and there needs to be some work done with the way the phone deals with media and storage.
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I love Android...and completely disagree with all (almost all) of your points...but you are entitled to your opinion. I have to wonder though why you would go on an Android forum and rant against Android...seems a little trollish. Sure WP7 has some advantages over Android (not sure what they are)...peas have some advantages over carrots...but they aren't the same thing and if I want peas I don't eat carrots (and then complain about the carrots). Maybe you should sell your g2x (assuming you have one) and get a WP7 phone. Not trying to be an ass. Just don't understand where you're coming from.
But like I said, a WP7 port would be cool from a technical standpoint.
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Funny how now im a troll because I have some gripes with android. Do you work for google and dont like me pointing out flaws? IM just saying these are things that android lacks... and I love my g2x too much to give it up.lol. Not trolling, not trying to offend any one with the way I talk. But I am still right about this as you have yet to prove me wrong or give me advice on how to work around it. and I dont hate android, its awesome and I love everything thats being done with it so why not make it better and have better media software for it?
I had a mt4g then went to the hd7 in high hopes for the wp7 and enjoyed it for a few days simply because of Netflix and simplicity... but. I came running back to android on the g2x after 2 terrible hd7 handsets... it had a few nice features but in no way stands up against what we can mold our android to be.
As for the browser wp7 was amazingly smooth...
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Funny how now im a troll because I have some gripes with android. Do you work for google and dont like me pointing out flaws? IM just saying these are things that android lacks... and I love my g2x too much to give it up.lol. Not trolling, not trying to offend any one with the way I talk. But I am still right about this as you have yet to prove me wrong or give me advice on how to work around it. and I dont hate android, its awesome and I love everything thats being done with it so why not make it better and have better media software for it?
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Maybe u would enjoy the zune launcher
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hah.. lets not get started on ZUNE. I still love my old Zune 130 because i prefer the hardware buttons during work. if it wasn't for that and storage.my G2X might replace it.
the zune software is better than it was but it still isn't great and I still don't understand why a MICROSOFT zune cant natively sync with MICROSOFT media player.
anyway back on topic haha
http://phandroid.com/2011/11/09/ado...player-for-mobile-focusing-instead-on-html-5/
so, adobe will stop releasing flash player for android.
RUMOR is that it will stay on the market but won't ever be updated, or brought to more devices.
am i the only one who's horrified by this?
Sad. But it still sort of continues. It is said that security updates will still come for it, and it's content is still in Adobe Air (applications will still be able to use it but not browsers). More info here: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Flas...n-the-Desktop-and-Mobile-Devices-233521.shtml and here: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mobi...her-Users-nor-Adobe-Will-Miss-It-233474.shtml.
Don't be horrified. Times are changing—nothing more, nothing less.
upichie said:
Don't be horrified. Times are changing—nothing more, nothing less.
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So there's hardly any user that is going to miss it. Sure, there'll be the occasional die hard fan who will come out and say that Flash is critical on mobile phones and that the world can't go on without it, but for regular users the move makes little difference.
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See, that's where I disagree. My phone (which all around sucks) doesn't support flash, and because of that I have to go to my laptop for half my web browsing, regardless of what everyone says, without flash, the internet sucks. Most web pages use flash, not HTML5. We're going back to the pre-froyo days with this decision.
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See, that's where I disagree. My phone (which all around sucks) doesn't support flash, and because of that I have to go to my laptop for half my web browsing, regardless of what everyone says, without flash, the internet sucks. Most web pages use flash, not HTML5. We're going back to the pre-froyo days with this decision.
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Be paitent. HTML5 will become more common; Flash will become less. It's a time of transition, a time of change. It's the future, so don't *****.
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Be paitent. HTML5 will become more common; Flash will become less. It's a time of transition, a time of change. It's the future, so don't *****.
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Not *****ing - pointing out why this is bad.
I'm all for HTML5, but killing off flash for android because HTML5 exists is about as stupid as a carrier shutting down all data networks because they've put up a couple 4g towers - the majority of the internet is still using flash, and to axe flash now is incredibly premature. There is so little infrastructure for HTML5 that more people are going to be harmed than helped by this.
Please excuse this mobile-technology challenged individual, but can HTML5 browsers on a smartphone play video and streaming video content that was originally developed with Flash?
mtmerrick said:
http://phandroid.com/2011/11/09/ado...player-for-mobile-focusing-instead-on-html-5/
so, adobe will stop releasing flash player for android.
RUMOR is that it will stay on the market but won't ever be updated, or brought to more devices.
am i the only one who's horrified by this?
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not just android
for all mobile devices, including windows, webos, mac, BB, even PCs etc
personally, i'm glad it's dying, annoying to have to install that damn plugin to be able to see anything.
hurray! to HTML5 and active web contents
long live the web!
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Not *****ing - pointing out why this is bad.
I'm all for HTML5, but killing off flash for android because HTML5 exists is about as stupid as a carrier shutting down all data networks because they've put up a couple 4g towers - the majority of the internet is still using flash, and to axe flash now is incredibly premature. There is so little infrastructure for HTML5 that more people are going to be harmed than helped by this.
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"Kill" and "axe" are too harsh of words. What they're doing is not going to affect flash at all on current devices. It will stay the same, just won't progress. So your anology isn't really correct. They're not "shutting down all data networks because they've put up a couple 4g towers," they are "letting you continue to use the current data network while focusing their resources on 4g."
No one will be harmed. Everyone will continue doing what they're doing. Even you, someone without flash, will just continue doing what you're already doing. And if you want flash? Get a capable device.
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correct me if i'm wrong, but "security updates only" and "not expanding its market" seems to me to mean that flash will not be made available to new devices, meaning only older devices can run flash. so if you want to actually see all of the internet, which uses WAY more flash then HTML5, you have to get an old, underpowered device? really?
In all honestly, I have probably used flash like 2 times. I don't even watch Youtube videos on my phone.
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I use my phone for music and flash more than anything, and this does nothing but piss me off!!! I use flash ona daily basis, and this means I will have a 6-8 month transition period where content will start ceasing to load while I'm waiting for the world to transition into html5
This is bull****, and I think adobe need to re-evaluate their heads!!!
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not just android
for all mobile devices, including windows, webos, mac, BB, even PCs etc
personally, i'm glad it's dying, annoying to have to install that damn plugin to be able to see anything.
hurray! to HTML5 and active web contents
long live the web!
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Actually, they said that they will continue it (for a very long time) for PCs.
Mobile browsing is rapidly becoming the primary browsing method, and adobe makes a decision like this... Are they stupid?
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I use my phone for music and flash more than anything, and this does nothing but piss me off!!! I use flash ona daily basis, and this means I will have a 6-8 month transition period where content will start ceasing to load while I'm waiting for the world to transition into html5
This is bull****, and I think adobe need to re-evaluate their heads!!!
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QFT!
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Mobile browsing is rapidly becoming the primary browsing method, and adobe makes a decision like this... Are they stupid?
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very valid point. (and yes, i think they are.)
mtmerrick said:
correct me if i'm wrong, but "security updates only" and "not expanding its market" seems to me to mean that flash will not be made available to new devices, meaning only older devices can run flash. so if you want to actually see all of the internet, which uses WAY more flash then HTML5, you have to get an old, underpowered device? really?
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I'm not entirely sure. Do they release a different version of flash for each and every device? Do they have to change the flash download each time a new device comes out in order to support that device?
Again, I don't know enough to say yes or no on this one, but considering the amount of updates I see Flash getting on the Android market, I'm inclined to say this isn't entirely correct.
hp420 said:
I use my phone for music and flash more than anything, and this does nothing but piss me off!!! I use flash ona daily basis, and this means I will have a 6-8 month transition period where content will start ceasing to load while I'm waiting for the world to transition into html5
This is bull****, and I think adobe need to re-evaluate their heads!!!
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Well you still can watch flash on your device, so what are you getting so upset about?
Some people certainly are resistant to change.
This is bad news, the recent Flash 11 update finally felt nice and stable on my Droid 3. Being able to view flash elements full screen solves input issues.
The popular sites like Youtube, etc have HTML5 support in the works but there are many other smaller sites that will be on flash for a while. I'm backing up a copy of the flash player apk in case Adobe decides to pull it from the market. I wonder if flash will work on ICS or future browser versions?
Even without updates Flash 11 will still be plenty for a couple years as long as it works. Youtube only requires version 8 which came out in 2005, although it recommends 10 for the latest features which came out in 2008. This means Flash 11 should be fine for at least a few years and if Flash is really a dying breed, the sites that require the latest and greatest will have an HTML5 alternative by then. Older sites still done in Flash won't require a new version. But I don't know much about the Android plugin system.
I'm still thinking about my Droid 3 which has the Adobe Flash logo right on the box. This was a selling point of many Android phones. I wonder how long they will ship new phones with Flash.
I don't think i've ever used flash on my phone, don't watch youtube videos for one. Everything is moving towards HTML5 for they are doing in the right thing in putting more time into that but they really should still support flash at the same time. It still has it's uses despite being limited compared to HTML5.
i don't really know what to think of this, i guess the only way i could find out is it if disappeared so that i could see how it affects me.
Wow. This is something else.
Searched but didn't find this posted yet.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/28/adobe-confirms-it-wont-support-flash-on-android-4-1/
And from the horse's mouth...
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/06/flash-player-and-android-update.html
I too read this and became quite alarmed. I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this. I seriously hate how everyone is pushing apps when a flash equipped browser can handle a lot more in a more efficient way.
So anyway, will there be a solution to this? Will we be able to port flash from ICS to Jellybean? Any input would be greatly appreciated.
google is integrating flash into chrome for android
antwan* said:
I too read this and became quite alarmed. I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this. I seriously hate how everyone is pushing apps when a flash equipped browser can handle a lot more in a more efficient way.
So anyway, will there be a solution to this? Will we be able to port flash from ICS to Jellybean? Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Not entirely true.. flash on mobile device doesn't perform as well as their desktop counterpart.. beside, who would use flash on mobile anyway? Play flash games? Proof that android is superior to iOS? That's just silly..
I'm not offending Apple.. they're right, HTML5 is a much efficient way to deliver content on websites.. it'll save time, money and effort for web designers..
About the port, i think it's very possible.. someone could try pull the flash player from ics and install it on JB..
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We can always sideload it, the current version works in JB. Flash will be phased out and replaced with HTML5 eventually anyway
I've just backed up the latest Flash APK to Dropbox... you know..just in case
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Actually it says in the final two paragraphs of their blog that adobe won't support flash but that developers will be able to download unsupported versions, obviously not updated of course.
But yes it is true chrome on 4.1 will also not support flash. But of course we can do as ios users have to and use browsers that do support flash.
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I've just backed up the latest Flash APK to Dropbox... you know..just in case
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Isnt that a form of pirating? (Gotta admit though, When my phone was fast, I was able to sideload apps, Now its acting weird, very laggy)
OptimusLove said:
Isnt that a form of pirating? (Gotta admit though, When my phone was fast, I was able to sideload apps, Now its acting weird, very laggy)
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Flash 11 is free?
And plus, its a system app on my phone so...
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- Swift -, formerly known as IrishStuff09
I fail to see why this is a big deal. Flash has been on its way out the door even in the desktop realm for a while now.
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I've just backed up the latest Flash APK to Dropbox... you know..just in case
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Seems a little unnecessary as Adobe themselves said all the released versions will be available from them.
deathsled said:
I fail to see why this is a big deal. Flash has been on its way out the door even in the desktop realm for a while now.
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It's a big deal because there are still many websites that are flash based.
Way back when, the main reason I upgraded from a MT3G, to 4G was so I could access those sites. Now I'm back where I started until all those companies redesign their websites.
What Adobe should be doing is immediately discontinuing Flash updates and support for ALL platforms, which would force everyone to immediately redesign their sites instead of leaving mobile users out in the cold.
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I always have flash turned off on my phone anyway.
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Kind of weird that people are taking it somewhat lightly. I always heard android users claiming that it's one of the things that out-shinned the iPhone.
nuclearbroccoli said:
It's a big deal because there are still many websites that are flash based.
Way back when, the main reason I upgraded from a MT3G, to 4G was so I could access those sites. Now I'm back where I started until all those companies redesign their websites.
What Adobe should be doing is immediately discontinuing Flash updates and support for ALL platforms, which would force everyone to immediately redesign their sites instead of leaving mobile users out in the cold.
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I couldn't agree more. People are always quick to say, "oh but flash is dead, blah blah, you don't need flash, it sucks on mobile"
I'd like to remind everyone that the needs of one are not the needs of all. Many sites unfortunately still rely on Flash, and not being able to have a device that can access such content is frankly limiting. If I wanted to be limited I'd be on iOS or Windows Phone. Now I'm not saying Android reigns superior to all, of course it has it's faults but it does provide a lot of utility and freedom.
I would love if everyone was on HTML5 and Flash was no more. However that is not the reality. We're in the year 2012 and our mobile OS's are capable of so much, we have quad core equipped devices with 2 GB of DDR3 RAM. So to say Flash doesn't work is not the case anymore. Flash works incredibly well.
While Apps might be convenient for some things, they can't replace everything in the web. Also it's not very ideal to have to download and bog down our devices with countless of apps to replace the functionality of what can already be achieved with a Flash equipped browser. What Flash equipped mobile devices did was make people paranoid that people wouldn't purchase as many Apps from an App Market. So frankly, I'm disappointed that Adobe caved and killed off Flash for mobile devices. Also XDA is where people come to be freed of mass consumerism and root and hack their devices and come up with solutions to walled garden implementations incorporated by companies aiming to sell dumbed down versions of what their OS can really accomplish, in order to sell to the mases; so it's a bit upsetting that I need to make this argument because some people are content or can't see Flash work for them.
PharmCAT said:
Kind of weird that people are taking it somewhat lightly. I always heard android users claiming that it's one of the things that out-shinned the iPhone.
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I guess Adobe want an end to people fighting over platforms/OSs.
nuclearbroccoli said:
It's a big deal because there are still many websites that are flash based.
Way back when, the main reason I upgraded from a MT3G, to 4G was so I could access those sites. Now I'm back where I started until all those companies redesign their websites.
What Adobe should be doing is immediately discontinuing Flash updates and support for ALL platforms, which would force everyone to immediately redesign their sites instead of leaving mobile users out in the cold.
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Agreed. Granted that not a lot of websites *depend* on flash to work, but when you do come across one that uses flash, it's certainly nice to be able to use the whole website.
Even just a "current version" with nothing but security and bug fixes would seem like a goo idea, not just cut dry...
Why dont we create a petition to resume Flash development for Android?
HTML5 won)) As Jobs said
smile_ppl said:
Why dont we create a petition to resume Flash development for Android?
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Too many petitions already
1. Windows Phone dilemma( about 1000 of them)
2. Apple and the Nexus( about 100 of them)
Mixed feelings..Although I'm not surprised since Adobe had previously announced they were dropping development of Flash for mobile devices.
And yes although my device has Adobe Flash I rarely enable it because it runs like a pig (although it is nice having the option to view websites on my phone just like on my PC).
I'm also against app-ahhrea - all these apps to access the same content as a web browser but with new and improved battery suck background processes.
I would much rather Adobe Flash die and HTML5 start taking foothold but until Adobe announces they are discontinuing Adobe Flash development altogether there will still be a significant amount of Flash websites that won't be usable on mobile devices.
On a side note Microsoft has announced Win 8 / IE10 will have Adobe Flash integrated instead of being an add-on like before. Does anyone know if Win 8 tablets / phones will have Adobe Flash built-in?
I would like one of two things to happen:
1) More websites switch from Adobe to HTML5 rendering Flash as significant as Realplayer.
2) Adobe resuming mobile development of Flash so we have a more efficient and usable version for our mobile devices.
Most websites I frequent have mobile versions which load very fast and I use them most of the time. Sometimes the mobile versions are missing content the full website has so I switch from mobile to desktop view - and I occasionally enable Flash if the website requires it.
But please not another app to access a website!
My mate purchased a Nexus 7 and it was updated to Jellybean. However he can't use flash now because the creators haven't built it to support anything later than 4.0.x. Will our beloved Notes cease to have flash player too when we finally update? Or is there a work around already in place?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Search around and you can find a apk to install/sideload it yourself so it will work with jb but make sure it's from on here cause there are fakes on the net
Here is the one from the market:
http://db.tt/nVapWrZ1
Thanks mate. Just reading some of the other posts I think it might be because he has chrome which came pre-installed on his nexus. Maybe if I download another browser that might work.
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Yeah chrome doesn't support flash, but most others from the market will support it
Actually, this is because flash has been totally pulled for 4.1 Jelly Bean. This was announced quite a while ago, the talk started about the time of ICS, I think? Not exactly sure when it arose, though.
The reason behind it is simple, though. Flash is out dated. It's actually rather bad because of how buggy it is. Everyone's taking a step away from it now - EVEN Adobe. This has happened due to the power of HTML5. HTML5 fully supports the direct hosting of video and audio components.
I don't know of many places you'd actually need flash. Youtube obviously no longer uses it on their apps (as it's ran by Google. For them to remove flash and totally break one of their biggest internet services is nonsensical.) and the only thing I could think of that you might actually use Flash is if you're doing movie streams. Which, of course, could be problematic.
I'd say you shouldn't try to get flash back. Since it's obsolete and not supported for your device, it will cause some major problems.
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I saw many different methods to make Flash work on Nexus 7 ..Such as Firefox flash add-on and some other stuffs ..
Search around and you can find a apk to install/sideload it yourself so it will work with jb but make sure it's from on here cause there are fakes on the net
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DJrumbero said:
Search around and you can find a apk to install/sideload it yourself so it will work with jb but make sure it's from on here cause there are fakes on the net
Here is the one from the market:
http://db.tt/nVapWrZ1
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As i see on the google, the adobe say they will not support JB for flash any more, its mean these will be no Flash for JB. I try search flash player and sure dont see it in store now. so nightmare
X-Scope browser is the one that I use on my rooted Fire and it's the only one that I have found that works. I backed up my flash player from my ICS phone and installed on tab.
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zaslamel42 said:
Actually, this is because flash has been totally pulled for 4.1 Jelly Bean. This was announced quite a while ago, the talk started about the time of ICS, I think? Not exactly sure when it arose, though.
The reason behind it is simple, though. Flash is out dated. It's actually rather bad because of how buggy it is. Everyone's taking a step away from it now - EVEN Adobe. This has happened due to the power of HTML5. HTML5 fully supports the direct hosting of video and audio components.
I don't know of many places you'd actually need flash. Youtube obviously no longer uses it on their apps (as it's ran by Google. For them to remove flash and totally break one of their biggest internet services is nonsensical.) and the only thing I could think of that you might actually use Flash is if you're doing movie streams. Which, of course, could be problematic.
I'd say you shouldn't try to get flash back. Since it's obsolete and not supported for your device, it will cause some major problems.
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I understand what you are saying, but not everything has not moved away from flash. I agree if you do not use anything that requires it, then don't worry, but there is still a need for Flash. I watch sports on firstrowsports.eu and vipbox.tv on my Fire, rooted with 4.1, and it still requires flash. It is definitely not obsolete, but it is getting there.
jwwiii1982 said:
I understand what you are saying, but not everything has not moved away from flash. I agree if you do not use anything that requires it, then don't worry, but there is still a need for Flash. I watch sports on firstrowsports.eu and vipbox.tv on my Fire, rooted with 4.1, and it still requires flash. It is definitely not obsolete, but it is getting there.
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Agreed. Flash has been around for over a decade. You cant just do away with it in a year or two. I agree that high traffic, constantly updated websites are quickly migrating to html5. But that doesnt account for the thousands if not millions of other sites or practical applications that are still in use. For example, i am in college and often times have to watch video lectures...recorded in flash format. Its going to take alot of time, resources, and money for an html5 implementation of all video lectures across every class in my college that has flash video lectures or other applications. Also think of the flash implementations in the business sector. They are not going to spend the time and money converting so quickly especially when what they currently have in flash still works. I understand the need to move away from flash, but to force ppl the way they are is not going to work. They need do move away but at the same time, keep some backwards compatibility. Instead of releasing newer versions with new features, they only continue to release security updates. In the meantime, they can announce that flash will have an End of Life date set for sometime in the future. This will not only give others time to implement html5 but it will also encourage them to move away from a product that will be expiring and move to its successor.
yes!
DJrumbero said:
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I just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 from the AT&T store, kinda a spur of the moment thing, I've been wanting it and just kinda went for it. Got it home and couldn't get First Row Sports to work, website would load but video would not show up. I found the APK file posted in there, that goes down to Adobe Flash 11.1, my phone came with 11.2. Now it seems to work, I get video playing on first row sports. Just on "Link 1", but whenever I try to click the red X to close the very bottom ad, over the Fullscreen and volume buttons, the video just freezes. I have to refresh the window to get the video to play again, and i just don't click on the bottom ad to close it out. Does this happen to anyone else or just me, is there a workaround for that?