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Is anyone aware of a plain vanilla stock Android ROM that can be used with the Sensation 4G? Basically I am looking for the "pure" Android experience that comes on the G2, G2x, etc but without the bloatware and that is unlocked. I know there are a number of other ROM's out there that people will claim are better, but I am more than happy to start clean (and stable!) and add what I want. Any suggestions? As good as some of the other ROM's surely are, I would prefer one that came directly from Google and can basically guarantee all functionality will work. Thoughts?
There are none yet, at least none that are fully functional. i guess you will have to wait some more weeks.
senseless extreme is 2.3.4 AOSP with some sense features (like the dialer, the people and sms apps etc. but there's very little trace of sense on the rom). give it a go, i 've tried it myself, seems ok, and the dev keeps it up to date i guess. once CyanogenMod 7.1 's available for the Sensation go try it, it will be your best guess closest to aosp + tweaks. best roms out there imo.
I've just flashed Senseless Extreme and it's great
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I havent yet found a stock AOSP ROM, is anyone else aware of one that has been released?
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I havent yet found a stock AOSP ROM, is anyone else aware of one that has been released?
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are you serious? thats what theyve been saying this whole post... what you're looking for doesn't exist at the moment.
Yes I am serious. I has been almost three weeks since I created this post (and asked the question) and a lot can happen in that period of time.
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Yes I am serious. I has been almost three weeks since I created this post (and asked the question) and a lot can happen in that period of time.
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A lot can happen, yes. But asking the same damn question shows your lack of respect for this community by not putting in your own legwork first to try and and answer your question.
Had you done your own legwork (instead of asking us to do it for you), you would find that the same aosp build in progress hasn't changed on the user end, but it seems they're making a lot of progress. But it's still not ready yet (and no eta as to when due to kernel.org being hacked and all associated git repos being shut down until further notice).
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A lot can happen, yes. But asking the same damn question shows your lack of respect for this community by not putting in your own legwork first to try and and answer your question.
Had you done your own legwork (instead of asking us to do it for you), you would find that the same aosp build in progress hasn't changed on the user end, but it seems they're making a lot of progress. But it's still not ready yet (and no eta as to when due to kernel.org being hacked and all associated git repos being shut down until further notice).
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First, I am not asking the same question again. I simply replied to an existing thread checking for updates. Second, you clearly didnt read what I wrote or you decided to reply rudely anyway. I did the "legwork" and couldnt find an AOSP ROM on my own, so I wanted to see if anyone in this community was either working on one or was aware of one that hasnt yet gone mainstream.
The only thing that is an issue to me with these "senseless ROMS" is that when someone calls you, you must unlock the phone (with the stock android unlock screen) and only then can you click andswer phone. It is a limitation in all senseless or stock ROMS.
I too am waiting for Cyanogenmod
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The only thing that is an issue to me with these "senseless ROMS" is that when someone calls you, you must unlock the phone (with the stock android unlock screen) and only then can you click andswer phone. It is a limitation in all senseless or stock ROMS.
I too am waiting for Cyanogenmod
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Yeah, I have heard that (about senseless ROMs) from a number of people and thats why I am holding out for something better. Cyanogenmod should be good, but I figured a pure stock ROM would be released prior to that. I guess time will tell as to which comes first!
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senseless extreme is 2.3.4 AOSP with some sense features (like the dialer, the people and sms apps etc. but there's very little trace of sense on the rom). give it a go, i 've tried it myself, seems ok, and the dev keeps it up to date i guess. once CyanogenMod 7.1 's available for the Sensation go try it, it will be your best guess closest to aosp + tweaks. best roms out there imo.
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Senseless Extreme is not AOSP, but probably the closest we have to AOSP at present.
Hey guys,
My name is Josh. I am currently an active member over in the G2/Desire Z forums, however, I am now moving onto the MyTouch 4G Slide. I was recently offered one as a replacement for my G2 (as it has reached it's EoL.) I have read a lot of people saying not to make the change but I feel that it's time I move onto something with a faster cpu and more ram, plus, it's free. (I really want full sense 3.0 or Sense 3.5 like I am running on my G2) Now, the only thing I am regretting is that I will have to give up my lovely sense 3.5 and beats audio for a dulled down version of Sense 3.0. What I am getting to is... I want to learn as much as I can before my phone arrives on Monday and I would potentially like to move into the development world of the MT4GS. What is the status on current roms? I see that Unity works and that is exciting, however, I know it has many bugs. How can I work with you guys and the current devs to get this show on the road?
Read all the Blue6IX posts and guides.
His rom is outstanding!
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Well.... One of our *arguably* best next to kornyone(I can't say I agree or disagree because blue is doing amazing work) but definitely most active on here was banned for something xda felt worthy of a ban. . .
Anyways if you want to work with ALL the developers you'll want to talk to ZombieDog about working with him on Virtuous Unity fixed up.... He's working on giving all the problems.
He's over on the RootzWiki forums!
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Thanks guys for the responses, I CAN'T WAIT for unity. I already miss it on my G2 and I am still using it! Lol. Personally I would love to port the RCMix3D Sense 3.5 Runnymede rom. (What I have on my G2 now.) It is SO perfect and everything that I want in a rom.
I'll head on over to rootzwiki now. Thanks again for the info.
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Thanks guys for the responses, I CAN'T WAIT for unity. I already miss it on my G2 and I am still using it! Lol. Personally I would love to port the RCMix3D Sense 3.5 Runnymede rom. (What I have on my G2 now.) It is SO perfect and everything that I want in a rom.
I'll head on over to rootzwiki now. Thanks again for the info.
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No worries, you might check out zombie dogs sense roms as well as blue's bulletproof here. There both awesome, I'm debating whether or not to play around with it blue s
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Josh - can't wait until you get your device - you'll love it.
Eagerly looking forward to another developers works in support of this awesome piece of tech!
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Josh - can't wait until you get your device - you'll love it.
Eagerly looking forward to another developers works in support of this awesome piece of tech!
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I feel like its been said so much, and I'm one if the newer users of this device... patients is a virtue I guess.
Btw Josh: THIS GUYS AMAZING ^^^^^
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Another thing, since I am able to grab another few minutes to log in - you mentioned losing beats audio coming to this device.
I don't really know what it is, haven't read up on it or used it, but if you are interested in trying to port it to this device i'd be down for helping you do that.
That you have it, have it working on your current model phone and are familiar with it's use makes a world of difference - I know some people around here would love to see a project like that happen.
Feel free to get ahold of me if something like that interests you.
I'm happy to help with anything I can, so if you have any dev questions or want help getting oriented with the device once it's in your hands don't hesitate to ask - I'm sure you'll get up to speed on the particulars and quirks of the device pretty quickly either way.
Once ICS is ported back to the device, having devs interested in Sense is going to be important in my estimation - so I'm glad to see other people keeping it on their radar.
Check out Droidmoder's sticky at the top of the General section for a good reference to some of the threads you should read through.
Catch ya later
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Thanks guys for the responses, I CAN'T WAIT for unity. I already miss it on my G2 and I am still using it! Lol. Personally I would love to port the RCMix3D Sense 3.5 Runnymede rom. (What I have on my G2 now.) It is SO perfect and everything that I want in a rom.
I'll head on over to rootzwiki now. Thanks again for the info.
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Welcome! 3.5 sounds like a great thing to have!
Btw, is htc and tmo planning on releasing 3.5? I guess we would have seen a leaked beta already if so...
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Another thing, since I am able to grab another few minutes to log in - you mentioned losing beats audio coming to this device.
I don't really know what it is, haven't read up on it or used it, but if you are interested in trying to port it to this device i'd be down for helping you do that.
That you have it, have it working on your current model phone and are familiar with it's use makes a world of difference - I know some people around here would love to see a project like that happen.
Feel free to get ahold of me if something like that interests you.
I'm happy to help with anything I can, so if you have any dev questions or want help getting oriented with the device once it's in your hands don't hesitate to ask - I'm sure you'll get up to speed on the particulars and quirks of the device pretty quickly either way.
Once ICS is ported back to the device, having devs interested in Sense is going to be important in my estimation - so I'm glad to see other people keeping it on their radar.
Check out Droidmoder's sticky at the top of the General section for a good reference to some of the threads you should read through.
Catch ya later
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Heya Blue6ix,
Good too hear from ya! It's great that this post has gotten so many awesome responses. Once I get my device, I'll get it rooted right away and start getting familiar with it. As far as beats audio goes, have you ever heard of Beats by Dr. Dre? The Headphones. They're pretty expensive. Lol. Anyway, basically... the Sensation XL came with Sense 3.5 and audio software for enhancing the beats headphones that came with it. Over in the G2 forums, the beats audio has been ported back to Sense 3.0 and is stock in all of the 3.5 roms.
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Heya Blue6ix,
Good too hear from ya! It's great that this post has gotten so many awesome responses. Once I get my device, I'll get it rooted right away and start getting familiar with it. As far as beats audio goes, have you ever heard of Beats by Dr. Dre? The Headphones. They're pretty expensive. Lol. Anyway, basically... the Sensation XL came with Sense 3.5 and audio software for enhancing the beats headphones that came with it. Over in the G2 forums, the beats audio has been ported back to Sense 3.0 and is stock in all of the 3.5 roms.
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I don't know much about Beats - but I do know in the sensation forums they found the program code that tells the system the right headphones are plugged in, and figured out how to make it work for any headphones ... but that's pretty much all I know.
From what you are saying, it sounds like we could make this happen if there is interest in it. Not trying to push you into anything, but you said you were using it so it was something I thought worth mentioning.
I might actually recommend that you play with it for a few days before you root it - it's nice to know what it was like when it came stock, so you have an idea of what you are trying to keep and not.
If you want to dive into AOSP and focus on that, it doesn't matter what it came with - but if you want to develop stuff for Sense... the MySense that's on this device isn't really like other versions of Sense. Might wanna just have an idea of what it was like and what you want to change.
Take care, i'll be diving back into developing stuff tonight and don't forsee any other big breaks like yesterday and today in the near future.
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Thanks guys for the responses, I CAN'T WAIT for unity. I already miss it on my G2 and I am still using it! Lol. Personally I would love to port the RCMix3D Sense 3.5 Runnymede rom. (What I have on my G2 now.) It is SO perfect and everything that I want in a rom.
I'll head on over to rootzwiki now. Thanks again for the info.
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Well we need someone to make a compatible Kernel...i think someone already had the ROM but without a compatible Kernel it won't boot...as much as Blue has been bowed he has done nothing much but change the dulled sense ROM...Undead does have a ICS hybrid and an AOSP....and Kornyone has an Alpha of CM7 but never released any fixes or stable kernel...I personally regret getting the slide...I was hoping I could of gotten the Sensation on my latest warranty exchange...there is just not much happening here...it's sad....it appears the physical keyboard phones are all DOA anymore in the dev world.
*ps* and I am in no way doubting any devs ability....just mostly what we have is either buggy or nothing much more than themed mysense....:
Lol - that is mostly accurate.
Short of tracing back ip addresses and showing up at someone's house to chain them to a computer until they produce something instead of just consuming... I don't know what else I can do to encourage people to dev for the device past documenting what I'm doing and how.
That's why I am excited to see someone else coming in with the intention of making something.
There is a lot more happening in Bulletproof then simple theming, though graphics is something I am spending time on at the moment.
I downloaded the 4.0.3 ICS release yesterday, as I'm sure a lot of others have as well. I don't intend to port it to this device at this time, but I am looking through the source code to familiarize myself with it.
I just am not interested in losing tv-out, the biggest problem with any AOSP build on this device.
I don't quite understand how a community built and maintained by developers has so many people with this device but no one really releasing anything - every time I log in the first thing I do is check the dev section to see if some crazy software package was released that wasn't talked about until release day.
The hardware that this device has is pretty impressive, the capabilities it offers are equally so, and as we keep making it faster and more efficient someone else will throw their hat in the ring... as the OP is intending .o
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Lol - that is mostly accurate.
Short of tracing back ip addresses and showing up at someone's house to chain them to a computer until they produce something instead of just consuming... I don't know what else I can do to encourage people to dev for the device past documenting what I'm doing and how.
That's why I am excited to see someone else coming in with the intention of making something.
There is a lot more happening in Bulletproof then simple theming, though graphics is something I am spending time on at the moment.
I downloaded the 4.0.3 ICS release yesterday, as I'm sure a lot of others have as well. I don't intend to port it to this device at this time, but I am looking through the source code to familiarize myself with it.
I just am not interested in losing tv-out, the biggest problem with any AOSP build on this device.
I don't quite understand how a community built and maintained by developers has so many people with this device but no one really releasing anything - every time I log in the first thing I do is check the dev section to see if some crazy software package was released that wasn't talked about until release day.
The hardware that this device has is pretty impressive, the capabilities it offers are equally so, and as we keep making it faster and more efficient someone else will throw their hat in the ring... as the OP is intending .o
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Honestly Blue my guess is there are very few who can figure out the kernel side of dual core....without new functioning kernels there is not much that can be done here....i know there has been 2 sense 3.5 roms die for the same reason...well if you count Afinity 3....there is no compatible kernel....in fact the ONLY semi close to stable kernel is stock....wow who would of thought in a real of devs that would be the truth of things...if we had some actual coders here that could build a kernel we could see...3.5, real stable cm7 and possibly speed up cm9...MIUI (although why someone wants to turn their Android to an Iphone escapes me....maybe we all need to work on Kernel development....my mind is a little to straight forward to code fault tolerances and such...such...but I really think this is the major hold back here....do you agree Blue?...
I honestly hadn't read that far into it all.
I am taking my time trying to reach a community consensus on Bulletproof being bug free, stable and fast so I can get back into building kernels - I am trying to methodically answer everyone's call for overclock and undervolt before moving on to fix some things I feel are more important with kernel code.
Bulletproof is very specifically being designed as a shell to test kernels in, anything else people find use for it is just a bonus.
Is a lack of stable, working kernels really the issue?
I've already compiled a few kernels over the last 3 weeks and have been doing some general testing on my end privately - do you and others feel my time would be better spent focusing on that more fully, instead of trying to write tutorials on how to dev ROM stuff?
I could have Bulletproof ready for preliminary testing by mid-week and probably start pumping out the series of overclock kernels I described a while ago in Roman's kernel thread by next weekend.
If others are willing to sit down to build and support ROMs, I could drop everything else and focus on supplying kernels ( at the expense of as-yet unwritten tutorials).
I said before, and still am interested in working with other devs to supply them with kernels.
If splitting the load and me doing that while others handled the ROM side of it will speed up or increase development for the device, I'm down.
I never had any real-life computer friends, half the people I call friend off-line don't even own a computer, so my whole life if I wanted something to happen I had to do it myself or it didn't happen. I am equally capable of doing just about any aspect of dev, the pieces I'm missing I pick up quick because of my general range of knowledge.
I thought hammering out a stable ROM was where I should be focusing my attention, so I've been taking my time to do so. You can track my dev work on this phone all the way back, starting with the app reference...into the GPS work...and so on forward as doing what was needed most at the time.
If focusing my time on writing kernels and supplying other devs with working, stable kernels cooked up on a request basis for functionality will allow other devs to produce ROM choices - I'll be happy to do so.
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Don't mean to hijack your thread, Daiskei, but I suppose this does help and tie in to your announcement of coming over here to dev with/for us.
I am not familiar with your work, am new to Android, and the MT4GS is my first smart phone ( second device ). Would me focusing more fully on kernels allow you to spend time developing ROMs?
Help me help you, how can we work best together to accomplish more in less time?
I prefer quality to speed - but efficiency increases speed without a reduction in quality.
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The one problem with kernel development is you can't decompile it and see how it works or what's been done - so you basically have to know what you are doing and start from scratch. That's why we had to wait for source from HTC.
I can handle this side of it if that's what's needed, I can manage the complicated task of dual core, and am willing to work with anyone who wants to build on it.
The idea of working pretty strictly on kernels appeals to me - so let me know and that's what I'll do.
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The one problem with kernel development is you can't decompile it and see how it works or what's been done - so you basically have to know what you are doing and start from scratch. That's why we had to wait for source from HTC.
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Actually, I think the biggest problem with kernel development is you can't really test it unless it's on a device. Or, at least, that's my opinion.
If you're talking about building the stock linux kernel, it's very easy to build one and test it on a PC. If something goes wrong, it's pretty easy to grab the physical hardware and see where the fault lies. It's just not as easy to pull a HD and look at logs on a phone.
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Actually, I think the biggest problem with kernel development is you can't really test it unless it's on a device. Or, at least, that's my opinion.
If you're talking about building the stock linux kernel, it's very easy to build one and test it on a PC. If something goes wrong, it's pretty easy to grab the physical hardware and see where the fault lies. It's just not as easy to pull a HD and look at logs on a phone.
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Touche -
Assuming one has a device, though, they basically have to start with HTC kernel source and work up from there - you would have to edit in your own changes.
The only other option would be to find a repo to sync with where someone has built a kernel for the device and uploaded their changes pre-compile. I don't know anyone who has a public repo with modified kernel sources for this device specifically.
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The idea of working pretty strictly on kernels appeals to me - so let me know and that's what I'll do.
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That's honestly what we need IMHO. You can do whatever possible to a ROM, until out device has a nice kernel for it, the roms will all be virtually the same.
With the right kernel on my mt4g I could pull 30 hours of stock battery use. Still stock clock, it's just coded right. Thanks to TheDerekJay. You should pm him I'm sure he'll be glad to assist any question you might have... He's simply AMAZING
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Thanks, that's helpful.
I know enough where the learning curve isn't too steep, I can compile and have working kernels when i'm done & have previous CPU clock experience and worked with dual-core theory in the past - but i'm picking it all up as I go.
So far people have been happy with what i've been submitting for public consumption, confirming my progress in learning Android, but like I said - picking it all up as I go so any resources or people willing to help or offer advice are always welcome.
I'll track that dev down once I get my focus brought around to kernels and that becomes my life, so I can actually make use of any help he may be willing to give and not waste his time with frivolous or easily answered questions.
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I just doubled the RAM in my laptop a few days ago. It's about two years old, but when I bought it I bought a second stick of RAM I never added to it. I figured i'd use it until it really needed it, but now that i've been compiling things on it the more the merrier - been having some issues with it that have evaporated since I did that a few days ago.
I was gearing up for kernels anyway, but now i'm thinking i'll make that my primary focus and let all else mostly fall to the wayside except supporting any problems that crop up in my ROM.
Looks like tonight is going to be all math review and C coding refreshment.
I really can't wait to see Kernel from you, I know you'll do it right which is the best part
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Been using the bullet proof rom since I got this phone about 10 months ago, as much as I would like to switch to something better, I cant because it looks like almost every rom available is pre-alpha pre-beta, comes with a bunch of things not working, or has battery issues.
I know the Doubleshot isnt a popular phone, but this is really starting to suck. Seems to me that someone decides to build a new rom, makes a few updates over 2-3 months, then completely abandons the project due to getting a new phone. Wash, rinse and repeat.
Id love to have a cyanogenmod 7 mod, yet alone 9 for this phone, or even a stock ICS 4.04 rom, but it doesnt look like its ever going to happen with this phone. I think this will be the last HTC phone I buy, ive had 3 of them (one was WinMo 6.0) and none of them had official updates. All I can do now is watch people post a ROM, provide a few updates, then completely abandon the project.
What is the most stable ICS or CM9 rom available? Cause I sure as hell dont see it in the developers forum.
Well....you COULD look about 5 posts below this one and get a clue or two. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858512
But if you missed that one I can certainly see why the hell you "missed" anything you might like over in the Developer's Section. The real beauty of Android is you can just say "To HELL with the official updates". KWIM?
Usually reading through what others post about a ROM helps make the choice in what to flash. Seems how there are a few recent threads with almost this exact thing I take it your not the reading type? Just because something is labeled alpha or beta does not mean their not stable enough for a daily driver, it just means not everything works. 90% of our "dev threads" are ROMS you would never see ( ie from a different device ) so having them 90% functional, only missing features from the other device ( because ours can't do them ) is great development.
Blue was kind enough to post system.img and boot.img from the latest ota ( links could be shot because of a goo crash ) and dsi made the dsixda kitchen that will cook them images into a rooted Stock ROM. The kitchen will need a file added to tools/edify_defs ( its a script that allows the kitchen to know the partition locations of your device ) because he dropped support a while ago, but it works great as a tool. So you could always start there and once you get some things under your belt you could jump in and lend a hand in this long term support you are seeking?
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I do think that people arrive at your conclusions due to three main reasons:
- The misunderstanding that developers are doing this for the users. ( some may, by far most are not)
- The user mentality of owning a smart phone. You want to have this device as long as you can, and get the most out of it.
Most devs see it another way. They want to stay on the cutting edge and try to break new ground. Regardless of how awesome a device is at launch, you are still looking at a limited window of time before it's old hat.
I think that more and more you will be seeing devs moving on more quickly due to the commercial success of the smart phone. Not just an expensive device for a few, anymore they are a dime a dozen for the many.
I've owned 3 doubleshots, still have two. Have an SGSIII, and am thinking about picking up one of the SGSIII international models.
...and that is fast becoming the M.O. of development. Squeeze out whatever learning you can until you benefit more from newer hardware.
Some devs will work on a device until it's about to or just starting to lose it's resale value so they can minimize the move forward.
- The third - and arguably most important reason - is the average user has no idea how much time, effort but most of all frustration goes into working on a device.
Especially for newer devs. For every one accomplishment, there are many, many failures. Failures that may have taken days of almost around the clock work. Failures that - in order to reach - took the place of spending time with friends, significant others or social gatherings. Giving up that day with your friends at the beach just to spend the whole time working on something that not only doesn't work, but even the parts of it you can salvage aren't useful.
This is what learning is like when you are the steward of your own education. You have to make sacrifices like ignoring your friends and family, cutting down on work hours, blowing off your girlfriend for a box with a screen.
Guess what - that whole graphics project for bulletproof that resulted in a 3 part tutorial? A 70 something hour bender where I walked away from the machine twice for less then ten minutes a pop for a quick bathroom break and to make some ramen noodles.
It was ramen noodles because I stopped working for a few months to learn android and build stuff for the doubleshot. Pennies can only be pinched so far.
...and I can't tell you how much I despise and hate actually doing graphics work. It makes me agitated and angry.
But ya know what? I did it to show what could be done and generate tutorials so other people could do it and free me to do other things, yet still enjoy the visual entertainment/enhancements the community would bring.
...and I was let down, in a big way. No one else really got into doing it. No one else invested the time to make graphical mods to. apk files we have or to sense. ( no slight to the very few of you that did)
You've had this phone for ten months, where are your roms, mods or graphical enhancements and stuff?
You argue that so few get involved - yet you do little to help.
This device was my first step into the dev ring. If I can be as successful at it - no reason you can't too. If you'd rather spend time doing other things, well, you never will learn to dev.
These kind of threads are disheartening. The community survives and thrives through your participation. By not pitching in to help, you are forcing the few that do to bear the weight of all forward development for the device.
Don't complain that we few are burnt out when you can't count yourself amongst us.
This division is one you highlight, while we try to eliminate. Come to our side and help out.
Bulletproof had over 2,000 downloads when I checked last back in march/april. No one used it as a springboard to build on?
At the end of the day...
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What is the most stable ICS or CM9 rom available? Cause I sure as hell dont see it in the developers forum.
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Well....you COULD look about 5 posts below this one and get a clue or two. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858512
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Oh I saw that, but i'll pass on an alpha build, need something stable, plus im not sure what version of Android thats even based on.
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Well....you COULD look about 5 posts below this one and get a clue or two. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858512
But if you missed that one I can certainly see why the hell you "missed" anything you might like over in the Developer's Section. The real beauty of Android is you can just say "To HELL with the official updates". KWIM?
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Usually reading through what others post about a ROM helps make the choice in what to flash. Seems how there are a few recent threads with almost this exact thing I take it your not the reading type? Just because something is labeled alpha or beta does not mean their not stable enough for a daily driver, it just means not everything works. 90% of our "dev threads" are ROMS you would never see ( ie from a different device ) so having them 90% functional, only missing features from the other device ( because ours can't do them ) is great development.
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When I see a rom posted in the developers forum, if its based on ICS 4.0 or better, all I do is read the what works and what doesnt work section. For a long time it seemed almost every rom had problems with the SD card being used as a USB Flash drive (meaning I would have to disconnect the SDHC, connect to reader just to copy files). Now the problems tend to either be camera related (which I absolutely need) or battery issues in which it gets hot or drains faster.
So way early on, I was reading through pages upon pages of posts to see if problems get resolved (which often they dont unless they post another build), but now I just read the first page to get to the details (to see whats not working in the rom), then pass when there are too many things not working.
I kinda like the official update, because they tend to be stable.
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Oh I saw that, but i'll pass on an alpha build, need something stable, plus im not sure what version of Android thats even based on.
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U need to lower you rom standards or make the perfect cm9/ics rom. I had a problem with our device not having enough roms until someone explained to me that we don't need 20 diff cm7 roms or 10 diff ics roms. Our devs do a good job so we don't need those the amount of roms we have is good look at the older smartphones and their roms. U see they are not up to date. (Like most of ours)
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lower your rom standards?
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U need to lower you rom standards or make the perfect cm9/ics rom. I had a problem with our device not having enough roms until someone explained to me that we don't need 20 diff cm7 roms or 10 diff ics roms. Our devs do a good job so we don't need those the amount of roms we have is good look at the older smartphones and their roms. U see they are not up to date. (Like most of ours)
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lower your rom standards?
i totally agree with the op. i'm not complaining about the great work the devs are doing. they're doing what they do because they love it and that's great. but every rom has issues in the "doesn't work" section and there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
if there was a single rom with no known issues, i'd be on it in a heart beat. especially a sense-less one. i'd even take gingerbread if it was no known issues.
and as for "we don't need 20 different cm7 roms and 10 different ics roms" ... of course we don't. i'd like to see ONE of each that's fully working.
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lower your rom standards?
i totally agree with the op. i'm not complaining about the great work the devs are doing. they're doing what they do because they love it and that's great. but every rom has issues in the "doesn't work" section and there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
if there was a single rom with no known issues, i'd be on it in a heart beat. especially a sense-less one. i'd even take gingerbread if it was no known issues.
and as for "we don't need 20 different cm7 roms and 10 different ics roms" ... of course we don't. i'd like to see ONE of each that's fully working.
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Yes thats the goal but if theyve released the rom with 1 or 2 problems then why should it be a problem. I use virtuous infinty and has 2 problems thats it. Dont quote me but i dont think there is a PERFECT ROM. Because again it is a rom not made by the company but our devs. And then again the roms our devs make have less serious problems than the ones companies have
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lower your rom standards?
i totally agree with the op. i'm not complaining about the great work the devs are doing. they're doing what they do because they love it and that's great. but every rom has issues in the "doesn't work" section and there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
if there was a single rom with no known issues, i'd be on it in a heart beat. especially a sense-less one. i'd even take gingerbread if it was no known issues.
and as for "we don't need 20 different cm7 roms and 10 different ics roms" ... of course we don't. i'd like to see ONE of each that's fully working.
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Then you get the invite to either put up some work, or fall back to the shadows. You guys asking for stuff we do for free in our free time sucks. And to see how unappreciated we are. If we pulled all links everyone that's whining now would be in tears
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Then you get the invite to either put up some work, or fall back to the shadows. You guys asking for stuff we do for free in our free time sucks. And to see how unappreciated we are. If we pulled all links everyone that's whining now would be in tears
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EXACTLY. I'm not a dev but this is what I did not want to happen but seems like nobody can agree
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For those that haven't taken the time to READ to see what others are saying about how a ROM works......well there is no excuse for you and IMHO have no business saying a word about anything. If a person is so smart that they know how things SHOULD work but can't even figure out a few commands in ADB & how to make it work then you're getting things backasswards. Just download it, evaluate it and if you don't expend the friggin' TIME to read then just STFU!
What you're showing is ABSOLUTELY NO RESPECT for the vast amounts of time and effort these developers have sat at home alone into the wee hours of the morning LEARNING by trial & error and collaboration among themselves for their OWN betterment. NOT FOR OURS!!! We are ALL damn lucky that they see fit to share ANYTHING with ANY of us and ask for nothing more that a little honest feedback and an occasional THANK YOU!
now....off my friggin' soapbox
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lower your rom standards?
there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
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We shouldn't be asking unless we can help in some way, shape or form. As you said, all the devs are doing what they can though we may not be aware of it. Look at how much time Blue put in Bulletproof alone. Kudos Blue!!!
If you want a ROM with no known issues, it exists! Go back to STOCK! LoL One of each ROM that's fully working will not happen because of the reasons that Blue listed and I agree with him completely. And the term "lower your ROM standards" is very fitting to me. It doesn't mean settle for less, but more so just pick the ROM that best suits you. They are there.
My DD right now is MikXE for various reasons and I've never had a single problem with it...at all. I don't use WiFi tethering or WiFi calling but those are features important to some(now I'd LOVE for just 1 feature to be added to it *cough* screenoffmusiccontrol Strapped *cough* LoL), but if it doesn't I'm not going to die. Already perfect in my eyes and I love it the way it is! And Blue's Bulletproof is flawless, everything works!
If a person doesn't like reading then XDA isn't the place to be. Sometimes within the thread there are tips shown that will fix some issues within the ROM that one might not know existed without reading. Then, in other threads there are ways to tweak things to get certain features working in the ROM that may show as not working in the OP...sometimes! Either way, if we want EVERY single feature on the phone working (Even the ones we don't use?) then Stock/Bulletproof is the only way to go. Otherwise, just get a new phone...?
Makes no sense feeling we deserve better for our phones when we have better, but just not up to "our standards". What the devs do...is FREE! As Strapped mentioned, if we had none of these ROMs/Threads, what would we do then? I for one sure as hell don't want to find out!
WELL SAID!!!!
Threads like this sincerely make me sick. I'm an end user ONLY for lack of a viable machine to build on... Somehow i figure building roms on the device isn't feasible (haha!) But my first reaction to this thread was "don't flame the guy don't flame the guy."
These developers have taken what some people get paid to do and enhanced it to almost an art form where they are singularly doing the job that entire DEVELOPMENT teams get paid to do for MONTHS at a time and you have a developer like XMC working on 4 roms at a time AND a kernel and whatever else AND a real job and school or whatever. Seriously if they aren't doing enough for you then code your own dream rom or run miktouch (which ran off stock kernel PERFECTLY for me for the first three months I was rooted).
Besides... What is stable for me might not be for you, or for any of the other end users here. I've ran MikXE, Vanillabean, MikMIUI, CM9 alphas 2-6, Paranoid Android and am currently running Virtuous Infinity alpha 2. ALL have been more than stable enough to function for me with a few quirks... Given i don't depend on Wifi as much as some, but still. Everyone makes a huge deal out of 1080 camcorder but seriously on this screen nobody can tell a resolution difference. I needed gps to work well and calling to work... I was a pizza delivery guy so that was what I needed to be stable.
Seriously to the OP - IF you aren't brave enough to try roms and see what works for you (seeing as how i've had ZERO of the reported bugs i've seen on most of the roms i have run) then stfu and do us all a favor and go back to stock or get a nexus and have a good time. There you can have 50 versions of everything you could ever want to ***** about. OR become a viable member of this great team and contribute. Help test the roms because stability is only a NAND away.
*steps off my soapbox*
And to answer the subject question:
There are plenty of stable roms to choose from. Most every rom here can be used as a daily driver... It just comes down to what YOU can live with as far as bugs go... After all stock had that battery getting really hot "bug" didn't it?
Wifi disconnecting with screen off without an app seems so inconsequential compared to a bug that can fry your device, right? Lets not forget that i've been testing roms and kernels that might've fried my device with only a G1 as a backup LOL.
Oh yeah... And in case you guys missed it...
TBalden, Kornyone, XMC-Wildchild,Strapped365, Sun_Dream, Blue and the rest... You guys kick ass. Let me know if you're ever in Bama and i'll buy you all a beer or several. And... Welcome riyal as well! You have taken my doubleshot from stock hell to the ecstasy that is whatever os i feel like running at any given time.
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Well to tell all the ICS ROMs around here should have been stable already only if we were given ICS updates. Problem is we were not and developers recycle CM source code or ROMs from other HTC devices praying that most of them would work to bring up ICS on our device. Ok that's fine but there are propriety files still missing or incompatible drivers which makes the bugs. Unless some dev would put his life in reverse engineering the missing drivers and stuffs we wouldn't be expecting any stable ICS ROMs here.
@onebornoflight
what did I do? Lol I'm no doubleshot developer yet I'm still at the learning stage just owning this device for almost just a week now. Didn't provide any development stuffs yet
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what did I do? Lol I'm no doubleshot developer yet I'm still at the learning stage just owning this device for almost just a week now. Didn't provide any development stuffs yet
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You have started contributing - that kernel in the virtuous beta post is a contribution - see you HAVE provided dev type stuff...
Or would you prefer to be unincluded LOL?
And welcome btw!
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I used a hasoon toolkit to root my phone and all that clockwork stuff... and the I used a tool to fastboot the cm9 boot.img..and then flashed the cm9 rom by kornyone.. ITS AWESOME... ICS FTW ON MT4GS....Ifeel like I got a new phone the rom is stable there is literally only one thing wrong with it and that's the front camera is upside down when using gtalk vid chat....but that doesn't matter... its still awesomely awesome
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I used a hasoon toolkit to root my phone and all that clockwork stuff... and the I used a tool to fastboot the cm9 boot.img..and then flashed the cm9 rom by kornyone.. ITS AWESOME... ICS FTW ON MT4GS....Ifeel like I got a new phone the rom is stable there is literally only one thing wrong with it and that's the front camera is upside down when using gtalk vid chat....but that doesn't matter... its still awesomely awesome
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Crap.... There's a fix for that somewhere in another kernel I think. I can't remember which one though.
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onebornoflight said:
Crap.... There's a fix for that somewhere in another kernel I think. I can't remember which one though.
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Its fixed in the latest alphas, should also be fixed in the latest "stable". But run alpha 5 its the most stable. Overall
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Does anybody have a more specific eta for the update? HTC said it would be this month but it is almost over. Somebody enlighten me with anything?
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Well I unfortunately cannot enlighten you although I can say that month estimate would be for the international (Tegra). One X and for what I know it might be Christmas before AT&T or some other carrier releases jelly bean for the HTC One XL
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Thanks very much ;D still a great device
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ttinjust96 said:
Thanks very much ;D still a great device
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great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers
bloodrain954 said:
great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers
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Wow dude, you can help yourself can you?
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That's why there are developers and custom roms
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bloodrain954 said:
great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers
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You're free to switch to a different OEM, no one is stopping you... For the rest of us, we're more than happy to use custom ROMs, they're usually much better than any OEM's updates anyways.
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You're free to switch to a different OEM, no one is stopping you... For the rest of us, we're more than happy to use custom ROMs, they're usually much better than any OEM's updates anyways.
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Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Just out of honest curiosity, why is that?
Mister J said:
Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Not quite true, for some devices the lack of update promotes devs to produce some great unique roms. Port updated versions of android to a device that would otherwise never receive it
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fungied.cheese said:
Just out of honest curiosity, why is that?
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One factor is by that time most devs have probably moved onwards to more current devices.
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fungied.cheese said:
Just out of honest curiosity, why is that?
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They can use the official updates as a base and then make their ROM from there. The official updates contain all the drivers and features and its easy to build up. Making ROMs from scratch is difficult to say the least.
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Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Not quite... Having the OEM's official update makes creating custom ROMs MUCH easier, sure. But being easier doesn't make them better, in fact, its quite the opposite... The better custom ROMs come from being built off of the AOSP source, not from the OEM's source. ROMs built from the OEM's source will still have many of the official ROM's inherent flaws, which kinda defeats the purpose of custom ROMs to begin with (and the main reason why I haven't flashed anything onto my One X yet)... Then we have porting ROMs from other devices which is one of the main reasons why you see ROMs with missing features such as cameras, WiFi and so on, along with other bloat and garbage files/drivers that aren't needed for the device it's being ported onto, but may cause issues if removed completely whether its used or not.
The problem devs are facing now is that they're spread too thin throughout hundreds of devices, back in the HTC Dream/Tmobile G1 days, building ROMs from the AOSP source wasn't a problem because they were all working on the same device, and could pool their resources to turn out MUCH better, faster and stable ROMs at a MUCH faster pace... Today, that's seemingly impossible since there are so many great devices out there (and more being released every few months), not to mention the competition between devs for recognition and donations, which isn't good for the community as a whole... Devs simply cannot keep up, so instead of building off of AOSP (which takes longer), most of them build off of the official updated ROMs or ROMs ported from other devices to make things easier and have a faster turn around time. Not to mention there are many "devs" (and I use this term lightly) out there who simply copy and paste code around, add a few things here and there, add a launcher and theme, slap their name on it, call it a finished ROM and then ask for donations for all their "hard work" (again, using this term lightly), when in fact, all the hard work was already done by other devs... Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the work devs do for basically nothing in return, and have donated to many who deserved it, without them, we'd be at the mercy of OEMs, which is never a good thing (see iOS), but there's only so much they can do on their own, and with so many handsets on the market, it's very difficult to stay focused on a single handset for more than 6-8 months...
I Concur...
bloodrain954 said:
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After three HTC phones and seeing this same pattern, I will not be buying another HTC phone. I know AT&T is to blame too, but HTC was committed to build quality and dedication to less devices and more support. I haven't seen it to my level of satisfaction. Maybe I'm on the wrong carrier, I don't know...
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After three HTC phones and seeing this same pattern, I will not be buying another HTC phone. I know AT&T is to blame too, but HTC was committed to build quality and dedication to less devices and more support. I haven't seen it to my level of satisfaction. Maybe I'm on the wrong carrier, I don't know...
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Unless you get a nexus device then anywhere else you go this will be normal
Not directed at you.
We are in a forum about rooting and flashing custom ROMs, not about whining when will a release for new software come out forum.
So I suggest to start flashing custom ROMs and stop talking about this.
It will get released when it gets released, and no amount of anyone bashing carriers or whining will make it come sooner.
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Not quite true, for some devices the lack of update promotes devs to produce some great unique roms. Port updated versions of android to a device that would otherwise never receive it
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Exactly this. I came from the HTC Aria, who's last official update was 2.2. Currently, there are community built ICS and JB builds that are ~99% complete in terms of functionality.
I upgraded yesterday to the HTC OneX+ and it has the updated software that OneX will probably get soon and if I knew how to root this sucker and pull the RUU off I would be more than happy to oblige. Anyone familiar with this process can chime in and help pull it from my phone because it really is nice especially the custom options in stock.
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Unless you get a nexus device then anywhere else you go this will be normal
Not directed at you.
We are in a forum about rooting and flashing custom ROMs, not about whining when will a release for new software come out forum.
So I suggest to start flashing custom ROMs and stop talking about this.
It will get released when it gets released, and no amount of anyone bashing carriers or whining will make it come sooner.
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It's cool, I know what you are saying. I'm very grateful this community exists, and for brilliant developers that feed my addiction of flashing roms.
It's places like this that fill the gap between an OEM's product and our expectations.
olorolo said:
I upgraded yesterday to the HTC OneX+ and it has the updated software that OneX will probably get soon and if I knew how to root this sucker and pull the RUU off I would be more than happy to oblige. Anyone familiar with this process can chime in and help pull it from my phone because it really is nice especially the custom options in stock.
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It would be useless for you to do so, it has a completely different processor. And since we are due for an update soon our devs are just going to wait until its released to make a custom rom
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Has anyone tried to use the Google Play Edition RUU for the HTC One (posted here) on their HTC One Mini? The hardware looks similar enough that I'd think it would work. I'm not sure if the lack of NFC is an issue.
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I am a noob to both this forum and Android. I am ready to make the switch, but I want a vanilla Android experience; I'm just not a fan of the Sense UI from what I've been able to play with. I also value smaller, lighter devices, and the HTC One Mini feels perfect to me. I'm an experienced technologist, I've jailbroken iPhones (admittedly less complicated), and I've been a tester for prototype devices at a mobile company I'd prefer not to name (more complicated), so I feel absolutely comfortable with the process of rooting a phone like this. I also value OTA updates, so a Google Play Edition is exactly what I'm looking for.
Any thoughts or suggestions on the subject would be appreciated. I've already gotten several ideas from other posts here. I do apologize if this has already been answered, but I did search and am pretty confident it hasn't been directly addressed.
No, don't do that. Especially not the RUU since that does more than just installing a stock rom.
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Has anyone tried to use the Google Play Edition RUU for the HTC One (posted here) on their HTC One Mini? The hardware looks similar enough that I'd think it would work. I'm not sure if the lack of NFC is an issue.
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I am a noob to both this forum and Android. I am ready to make the switch, but I want a vanilla Android experience; I'm just not a fan of the Sense UI from what I've been able to play with. I also value smaller, lighter devices, and the HTC One Mini feels perfect to me. I'm an experienced technologist, I've jailbroken iPhones (admittedly less complicated), and I've been a tester for prototype devices at a mobile company I'd prefer not to name (more complicated), so I feel absolutely comfortable with the process of rooting a phone like this. I also value OTA updates, so a Google Play Edition is exactly what I'm looking for.
Any thoughts or suggestions on the subject would be appreciated. I've already gotten several ideas from other posts here. I do apologize if this has already been answered, but I did search and am pretty confident it hasn't been directly addressed.
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Google Play Edition RUU is recompiled from source nothing to do with Sense 5 and that's mean different kernel that won't boot the HTC One Mini.
You have to wait for an CyanogenMOD available and after that if you don't like it we can build/port AOSP (pure google android).
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xpirt said:
Google Play Edition RUU is recompiled from source nothing to do with Sense 5 and that's mean different kernel that won't boot the HTC One Mini.
You have to wait for an CyanogenMOD available and after that if you don't like it we can build/port AOSP (pure google android).
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That's incorrect, the GE rom is actually just visually desensed Sense and can be booted with a Sense 5 kernel. It's nowhere close to being AOSP.
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That's incorrect, the GE rom is actually just visually desensed Sense and can be booted with a Sense 5 kernel. It's nowhere close to being AOSP.
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That makes good sense to me and, in theory, means the Google Play Edition ROM could boot on the mini since the hardware of the same architecture. I think the question is whether the same drivers can be used for the other internals. In other words, we could be able to boot the OS but be unable to use any of the components.
GSM Arena has the full tech specs of the HTC One and the Mini. When I compare these, I see a GPU that, according to Adreno wikipedia article, supports the same OpenGL, OpenVX, and DirectX versions, so I think this would be fine. The chipsets are slightly different and that worries me a bit since that could imply different radios, etc. I'd feel better if I could see a teardown of the mini, but with how miserable the teardown of the full sized version was I doubt they're clamoring to start that.
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That makes good sense to me and, in theory, means the Google Play Edition ROM could boot on the mini since the hardware of the same architecture. I think the question is whether the same drivers can be used for the other internals. In other words, we could be able to boot the OS but be unable to use any of the components.
GSM Arena has the full tech specs of the HTC One and the Mini. When I compare these, I see a GPU that, according to Adreno wikipedia article, supports the same OpenGL, OpenVX, and DirectX versions, so I think this would be fine. The chipsets are slightly different and that worries me a bit since that could imply different radios, etc. I'd feel better if I could see a teardown of the mini, but with how miserable the teardown of the full sized version was I doubt they're clamoring to start that.
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Or just wait. An official CM maintainer has a One Mini and will be working on it soon.
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Or just wait. An official CM maintainer has a One Mini and will be working on it soon.
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Correct. And....ohai!
The partition layout is completely different as are the kernel base and ramdisk offsets. If you flash that RUU...you may be heading back to the AT&T store immediately afterwards.
I have most of the prep work completed for cm-10.2....so sit tight while I work out some kinks. I will make a thread in the original android dev forums once its ready for alpha testing.
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That's incorrect, the GE rom is actually just visually desensed Sense and can be booted with a Sense 5 kernel. It's nowhere close to being AOSP.
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Really?? So the One users can switch from GE to Sense without flashing kernel? No atleast ramdisk changes nothing?
So if we port a m7 sense 5 we can also port GE in the same way?
That doesn't mean we can also base a CM on sense 5 kernel?
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Really?? So the One users can switch from GE to Sense without flashing kernel? No atleast ramdisk changes nothing?
So if we port a m7 sense 5 we can also port GE in the same way?
That doesn't mean we can also base a CM on sense 5 kernel?
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Yes. And this is how I was able to port sense to the First so easily. HTC's "AOSP" roms are purely Sense roms with specific apks replaced with AOSP apks. In 4.2+ a lot of changes need to be made to kernel to boot AOSP. Those changes won't necessarily be compatible with sense
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boy am I glad I saw this before trying to flash my mini !
GPE for the Mini
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I have most of the prep work completed for cm-10.2....so sit tight while I work out some kinks. I will make a thread in the original android dev forums once its ready for alpha testing.
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Sorry guys to bump this up but I could not find any further info on this...
Is there any development or is it a deserted project?
Cheers,
ym
ps. BTW is there AOSP rom available for the Mini? Cyanogenmod seems to have heat issues and the wifey is already hot enough so I don't want to give her anything problematic
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Sorry guys to bump this up but I could not find any further info on this...
Is there any development or is it a deserted project?
Cheers,
ym
ps. BTW is there AOSP rom available for the Mini? Cyanogenmod seems to have heat issues and the wifey is already hot enough so I don't want to give her anything problematic
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Yeah buddy... Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-mini/orig-development/rom-t2825888
Cheers
I would not install any CM-based ROM (CM/Candy*/PacMan/whatever) on M4 until the overheat issue is dealt with. They all have reports of bricked devices, and it looks like any device can (or will, eventually) get cooked any moment sooner or later (some people got theirs bricked after half a year, mine was lost within half an hour).
In the meantime, bilal_liberty has created a LibertyROM GPE for M4!
GPE is Sense-based and thus safe to install.
* EDIT: According to tr1gg3r84, CandyROM is not CM-based.
excellent, thanks
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In the meantime, bilal_liberty has created a LibertyROM GPE for M4!
GPE is Sense-based and thus safe to install.
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Excellent suggestion as I was looking for the GPE originally :good:
pure.by said:
I would not install any CM-based ROM (CM/Candy/PacMan/whatever) on M4 until the overheat issue is dealt with. They all have reports of bricked devices, and it looks like any device can (or will) eventually get cooked any moment sooner or later (some people got theirs bricked after half a year, mine was lost within half an hour).
In the meantime, bilal_liberty has created a LibertyROM GPE for M4!
GPE is Sense-based and thus safe to install.
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EH? There has NEVER been any reports of overheating or bricked devices on CandyRom! So I suggest for you to get your facts right before posting.!
AnGrY sCoTsMaN said:
There has NEVER been any reports of overheating or bricked devices on CandyRom!
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I'm very sorry if that is the case, then I must be mistaken for another ROM; there were a bunch involved in this issue.
But no reports does not mean it has not happened. As far as I know CandyRom is CM-based *, and overheating issue affects all CM-based ROMs the same. Not sure what makes CandyRom different in that aspect. *
Once again, it may happen or it may not. You can either see it as a lottery or a ticking time bomb. Either way, I better go with the ROM that just does not have that possibility by design.
* EDIT: According to tr1gg3r84, CandyROM is not CM-based.
yourmate said:
Excellent suggestion as I was looking for the GPE originally :good:
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Glad I could help
If you could find some time in a week or two to report back about stability, performance and your overall experience, that info would be much appreciated!
pure.by said:
I would not install any CM-based ROM (CM/Candy/PacMan/whatever) on M4 until the overheat issue is dealt with. They all have reports of bricked devices, and it looks like any device can (or will) eventually get cooked any moment sooner or later (some people got theirs bricked after half a year, mine was lost within half an hour).
In the meantime, bilal_liberty has created a LibertyROM GPE for M4!
GPE is Sense-based and thus safe to install.
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Yeah get your facts correct before you post Candy Roms isn't even Cyanogen based like the rest you stated and no bricks have been made by using this ROM either. For a GPE I have a booting GPE over Six month ago before I got rid of my M4 with the help from rmbq with kernel but ever release it coz thought it was pointless.
tr1gg3r84 said:
Candy Roms isn't even Cyanogen based
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I'm very sorry, based on official description provided in CandyROM's threads I thought it was (partly) CM-based. I'm a user, not a developer, so obviously I can't discuss what's under the hood, I have to distinguish based on information developers provide me.
Obviously, I was wrong, for what I apologize. I will correct my previous 2 posts accordingly right away.
pure.by said:
I'm very sorry, based on official description provided in CandyROM's threads I thought it was (partly) CM-based. I'm a user, not a developer, so obviously I can't discuss what's under the hood, I have to distinguish based on information developers provide me. Obviously, I was wrong, for what I apologize. I will correct my previous 2 posts accordingly.
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Yeah well I should know what I'm on about, after supporting this device for so long before anyone even cared about developing for it....(well there's a lot of so called (Devs) that like to spread rumors about other ROMs to increase their user base) pretty much sick to death of it tbh. Apology accept and cheers for that. CandyRoms is a great ROM supported by over 30 devices and glad to be apart of the team of working hard developers
tr1gg3r84 said:
For a GPE I have a booting GPE over Six month ago before I got rid of my M4 with the help from rmbq with kernel but ever release it coz thought it was pointless.
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Good for you.
Thanks God, that bilal_liberty's thought it differently and shared it rather than just posting about it