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[POLL] What ROM(s) would you most like to see ported to MT4GS?

Hey guys.
I'm trying to gauge interest here as to what roms you're all most interested in so I can start getting in touch with some devs to see if I can talk them into porting.
What would be nice from all of us:
-Make a pledge to throw a few $ down. Doesn't have to be much, but anything you can spare will encourage devs to come on over.
-PATIENCE. Especially if the dev doing the port doesn't actually own an MT4GS, there's going to be a lot of back and forth between them and whoever is playing intermediary (I am more than happy to take this role, and of course any one else who wants to play guinea pig should let the dev know as well). XDA devs have other obligations in their lives and it's important to remember that before getting on their butts for taking a long time on updates, etc.
Let me know if there are any specific ROMs you'd like to see added to the poll. For now, I'm keeping it simple and broad, since a lot of specific roms are just different flavors of a base rom.
Poll is up. If you are someone who would be willing to donate to the effort, please state the amount so we can give devs something to get excited about!
I'm in for $20 to the first person who ports a custom rom to the MT4GS.
$10 for the first person who ports an AOSP rom or Cyanogenmod.
(that's $30 if the first rom ported is AOSP/CM. )
Let's get some excitement brewing!!! XDA has excellent developers, why not entice them to employ their knowledge and skills to make our experience with the MT4GS the best it can be?

Something like virtuous rom
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I would love to see Aamikam do some development. I would be happy with anything that is stable really. Some CM7 would be sweet
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I would love to see MIUI just as much as I'd love to see a CM7 Rom. In Fact, I'd be willing to donate the most to a MIUI Port.

pmcqueen said:
Hey guys.
I'm trying to gauge interest here as to what roms you're all most interested in so I can start getting in touch with some devs to see if I can talk them into porting.
What would be nice from all of us:
-Make a pledge to throw a few $ down. Doesn't have to be much, but anything you can spare will encourage devs to come on over.
-PATIENCE. Especially if the dev doing the port doesn't actually own an MT4GS, there's going to be a lot of back and forth between them and whoever is playing intermediary (I am more than happy to take this role, and of course any one else who wants to play guinea pig should let the dev know as well). XDA devs have other obligations in their lives and it's important to remember that before getting on their butts for taking a long time on updates, etc.
Let me know if there are any specific ROMs you'd like to see added to the poll. For now, I'm keeping it simple and broad, since a lot of specific roms are just different flavors of a base rom.
Poll is up. If you are someone who would be willing to donate to the effort, please state the amount so we can give devs something to get excited about!
I'm in for $20 to the first person who ports a custom rom to the MT4GS.
$10 for the first person who ports an AOSP rom or Cyanogenmod.
(that's $30 if the first rom ported is AOSP/CM. )
Let's get some excitement brewing!!! XDA has excellent developers, why not entice them to employ their knowledge and skills to make our experience with the MT4GS the best it can be?
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I don't have this device but I think I can port a Desire Z Sense rom. I'll need someone to test it for me.

Virtuous Unity! Only cuz I want a mytouch skinless sense 3.0 experience, I miss the customizable lock screen.
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I'll test any thing my g2 is still my dd I would love to see core droid or cm7 and o can throw a few bucks at any dev willing to put the effort in I tried a core droid port it failed ....thanks
sent from my tweaked and peaked G2

overhauling said:
I would love to see MIUI just as much as I'd love to see a CM7 Rom. In Fact, I'd be willing to donate the most to a MIUI Port.
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Same here! A miui port would be awesome

bcurry10 said:
Same here! A miui port would be awesome
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MIUI IS TRUTH! It's beast on the myt4g and would be on this phone as well
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i want cyanogen mod 7 WITH the camera
make it happen i'll donate 50$ to the cause

MIUI I never tried it but it would be totally awesome.

Im going to be trying my hand at a port. Idk wat rom to do tho...
Sent from my Desire Z

kaotikking said:
Virtuous Unity!
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I second this one....Put $10 toward it!

Coming from a Tilt 2 I am a noob on Android ROMs, would someone be kind enough to give me a brief explanation of these ROMs while we are waiting for development.
Thanks!

fcreeves said:
I second this one....Put $10 toward it!
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I've got another $20 for Virtuous Unity! Everyone who wants AOSP will change their mind when they realize how awesome the Unity ROM is with stock sense 3.0!
PLEASE Virtuous team! Hear our cry!

P.S. Thanks pmcqueen for this thread! Hopefully we can get the ball rolling on something soon! There's a whole thread full of willing testers right here!

BiggJurk said:
Coming from a Tilt 2 I am a noob on Android ROMs, would someone be kind enough to give me a brief explanation of these ROMs while we are waiting for development.
Thanks!
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Cyanogenmod is a basic, bare-bones version of android with some customizations:
http://cyanogenmod.com/
MIUI is an iphone-ish looking UI that runs really smooth and fast and a lot of people love it:
http://miuiandroid.com/
Virtuous Unity is my personal favorite and is a simplified version of sense 3.0 (what we have on the phone right now) with a customizable lockscreen and some other options that would make this phone WAY better:
http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/unity_23.html
The 2.1/3.0 hybrid is a little older version of sense with some tidbits added in from sense 3.0. Probably wouldn't make much "sense" on this phone (pun intended) since we have dual-core processors and already run sense 3.0 on the stock ROM...

Thanks unclespoon.
Given that summary, it looks like Virtuous is gonna be our best ROM if we wanna hold onto the camera app that came with the phone.
Honestly, I don't know much about it as my experiences in this department are limited to flavors of CM7, coming from the Nook Color as my first and only other android device.
I know when Cyanogenmod eventually gets ported to this device I'll be giving it a go and I registered over at CM forums to keep up with it.
I'm running low on play money with all I've put towards this device so far, but i'd be happy to toss a few bucks towards CM, and if Virtuous is what it seems it'll be like then them as well.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143177
You're right, it's the best solution for this phone, especially if we want to maintain the camera app. People can run ADW launcher or launcher pro if they want it to look and feel like AOSP, and with overclocking on this device it will run as fast as anyone could ever want it to.

Thanks for that - I was using the XDA premium app to respond while I was out, and somehow lost the last paragraph of what I said asking for the link and stating I was out testing gps stuff on the phone.
It's kinda hard using it sometimes, because it doesn't let me see what i'm responding to like typing on a real computer does while i'm working with a thread, but it's still far and away better then using the browsers on the phone to go through forums.

[Q] [KERNEL] ?? Anyone have plans for new Sense Kernels (3.5 in particular)?

Now that HTC has dropped source, I'm wondering if anyone has plans for new kernels? I'd like to have proper sliders for overclocking at the least (though I'm grateful for all the hard work around the stock kernels).
If not, I'll see if I can get info from team BAMF and see what I can build because that's been my preferred ROM for a few weeks (running 1.03 right now). I haven't built anything for the public since the ZeusDroid project (OG Droid) though so I have to start from scratch (build environment and all).
The poll is to help me get an idea of much interest there is in such a project so I know whether I should expect to put much time into it.

There are 4 new kernels out for 3.5 roms since the source came out. And you should not have post this in development section this in a Q and A. If you can't find the kernels you are not as smart as you think you are. I will give you and Easter egg hunt if you go to your favorite Rom site you will find one of them made just for your favorite Rom.
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Grnlanturn. Do not insult rainabba. He is very knowledable. I remember the zeusdroid days. But I too am confused by the slider request. But there are a few good kernels can't name them since I run cm7 on my tbolt.
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Ok I won't be one to scare off a potential developer but there are in fact 4 kernels out for 3.5 roms ziggy, imo, jdk, adr. Another will be out when lou drops his. I say if you can make one, make one even in your spare time, it may blow all of them away.
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il say it.... go away

i may be wrong her but i dont think the kernels are "sense" based. they are based off of Android. so this post makes no sense...

andersonrt said:
i may be wrong her but i dont think the kernels are "sense" based. they are based off of Android. so this post makes no sense...
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Was this a joke? There ARE in fact sense based kernels... Hence the importance of HTC dropping its kernel source for sense based ROMs. Also the fact that an AOSP kernel does not work on a sense ROM and vice versa.......................

lol^....I am running BAMF SOAB, and it runs great stock...but the battery life was horrible and there was no overclocking, so I flashed the new imo kernel and its just as fast and way better on battery life...but I was wondering has anyone tried all of the other kernels with SOAB or another sense 3.5 rom?
I am looking for battery life..i was getting 6 hours with synergy with moderate use and now i am getting 8 hours with SOAB and the new imo kernel..if anyone has any suggestions on kernels let me know

musicfreak190 said:
I am looking for battery life..i was getting 6 hours with synergy with moderate use and now i am getting 8 hours with SOAB and the new imo kernel..if anyone has any suggestions on kernels let me know
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I'm at 40% after 12 hours off the charger with mild-moderate use and at least half the day I've been running this kernel (thanks to someone considerate enough to PM me a link instead of wasting posts here trolling) at 1.7GHz with the SmartAss2 governor. I'm not sure if I'm sold on this kernel yet (though it definitely is a nice base so either way, credit to jdkoreclipse).
For at least the last 4 days (and the first half of today), I've been running this kernel at 1.5GHz with the Demand governor and loving it. AMAZINGLY smooth and battery life has been as good as any ROM/Kernel combo I've used on my TBolt to date (12-16 hours with moderate use and lots of time on 4G/no wifi).

I love how this forum has a bunch of asenine "know-it-alls" that pretend to know what they're talking about (btw, this is not in reference to the original poster, but rather the jack asses that are posting replies in this thread).
If you don't have anything productive to add, then why are you here? I don't pretend to know a whole lot about developing, and in short, my contributions to the android community are minimal, at best. But I do contribute when I can, and if there's something I am not sure of, I don't spout off what I "THINK" I know, simply to make myself look like an idiot in front of those who do...
Well done, folks. Well done. I guess this is what everybody is talking about in other Android forums about the idiots on XDA.

playpolo4life said:
Was this a joke? There ARE in fact sense based kernels... Hence the importance of HTC dropping its kernel source for sense based ROMs. Also the fact that an AOSP kernel does not work on a sense ROM and vice versa.......................
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Actually, yes they can.
There is no Sense kernel. There is no AOSP kernel. Changes are mostly in the initramfs. AOSP usually requires a few extra changes as well, but a Sense kernel as you call it CAN boot AOSP. It may not be perfect, and some things may be broken, but most functionality is there. AOSP kernel as you call it may work on Sense based roms. It depends on how close the source is to the original source HTC supplied or worked with.
Note I said kernel. Not initramfs+kernel, aka boot.img.

Boostjunky said:
I love how this forum has a bunch of asenine "know-it-alls" that pretend to know what they're talking about (btw, this is not in reference to the original poster, but rather the jack asses that are posting replies in this thread).
If you don't have anything productive to add, then why are you here? I don't pretend to know a whole lot about developing, and in short, my contributions to the android community are minimal, at best. But I do contribute when I can, and if there's something I am not sure of, I don't spout off what I "THINK" I know, simply to make myself look like an idiot in front of those who do...
Well done, folks. Well done. I guess this is what everybody is talking about in other Android forums about the idiots on XDA.
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And you sir just proved your own point.

theoneownz said:
And you sir just proved your own point.
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You, sir, are correct. And unfortunately I realized it only after submitting my post. Too late to take it back, now. Guess I just needed to get something off my chest, though.
What I don't understand is why people have to attack potential developers on a personal level, I guess. Granted, the o.p. could have posted in a better suited forum, but why make it personal by practically calling him stupid in a round about way?
Sorry for posting at all. I'm sure it's all falling on deaf ears for the most part, anyway.
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Boost:
There is some history here that isn't apparent.

adrynalyne said:
Boost:
There is some history here that isn't apparent.
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Understood.
I apologize if any of my posts were offensive to any of the amazing devs that help to support this forum.
Adrynalyne, I appreciate your work and everything you've done to make our devices what they are today.
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All of these ICS ROMS have the same problems....

CONSIDER THIS THREAD CLOSED
Let me first be clear: I think it's awesome that a phone like the MyTouch 4g was released at a 2.2 phone and has ended up being upgraded to 4.0.4. Let me also take the time to thank the developers involved in this effort. It's hard work and sometimes it sucks to be a dev, and I thank you.
That being said, there are something like 10 ICS ROMS in the development section right now with any combination of
Sense 4
Stock ICS
MIUI
Themed variations
and what do they all have in common? The camera doesn't work properly, the bluetooth is sketchy, and the whole thing is a little crashy in the soft-reboot sense of the word.
My question is this: Why are we releasing so many variations of the same problem when the first one didn't work correctly anyway?
Especially ...Awesome... . I think it's awesome that you want to release like 5 different ICS ROMS, but what does one bring to the table that the other one doesn't? If I'm totally off base here, let me know, but this is what I see from a ROM flasher prospective.
Anyway, end rant and I'm sorry if I offended anybody.

jbdubbs said:
Let me first be clear: I think it's awesome that a phone like the MyTouch 4g was released at a 2.2 phone and has ended up being upgraded to 4.0.4. Let me also take the time to thank the developers involved in this effort. It's hard work and sometimes it sucks to be a dev, and I thank you.
That being said, there are something like 10 ICS ROMS in the development section right now with any combination of
Sense 4
Stock ICS
MIUI
Themed variations
and what do they all have in common? The camera doesn't work properly, the bluetooth is sketchy, and the whole thing is a little crashy in the soft-reboot sense of the word.
My question is this: Why are we releasing so many variations of the same problem when the first one didn't work correctly anyway?
Especially ...Awesome... . I think it's awesome that you want to release like 5 different ICS ROMS, but what does one bring to the table that the other one doesn't? If I'm totally off base here, let me know, but this is what I see from a ROM flasher prospective.
Anyway, end rant and I'm sorry if I offended anybody.
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I realized this too, but hey, they can do whatever they want.
I mean I know why they aren't completely functional and stable, but I'm confused as to why we've became so obsessed with ICS that we have 50 different ICS ROMs and pretty much all of them are the same just with different settings or whatever. That's why I've been on GB sense for like the past week or two.
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Things in common
As stated-many roms share problems. As a lover of mt4g anything that keeps my phone alive is progress. Sure ics has camera and some other isssues,but as we all should know and have all been told"this is a work in progress". Many folks = many efforts= different outcomes. Not all ics have reboots,not all have "the camera problem" most do but work arounds exist is some cases. We can always go back to gb. Remember when some gb had camera problems? In time all gets worked out. Besides no arm twisting is done to make us use a rom,it's a matter of personal choice. Am content to wait till camera fix is out but will continue to use ics. Thanks to all the fellas who work for free and express their individuality with the work produced. "drive on"

I2IEAILiiTY said:
That's why I've been on GB sense for like the past week or two.
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Yes. This is me too.
--sent from my glacier.

trofmoc said:
Not all ics have reboots,not all have "the camera problem" most do but work arounds exist is some cases.
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Actually, every ICS ROM in the development forum has the camera problem. The "camera problem" being the total lack of video capture unless you use a third party program and capture in VGA resolution at less than 10 fps. As far as I'm concerned, that means the video camera doesn't work, and there isn't a ROM that's worked around this.
Also, so far I've used at least five different ICS ROMS and all of them seem to have soft reboot problems of some sort. Some worse than others, but its there. Usually having to do with the browser or programs that use the stock browser.

Since a camera don't mean anything to me...I am using sense 4 hybrid, which is suprisingly very stable, minus the camera of course. But my wife on the other hand, has to have a camera, so I put sense 3.5 on hers, which is basically perfect in functionality.
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I literally just flashed that Sense 4 Hybrid, and it about blew my ear off with the music on the boot screen.........

lack of a kernel prevents certain hardware from working correctly
however, i do agree that there are WAY too many SIMILAR roms (and some from the same dev, too). itd be nice to try to put all your resources on one AOSP, one AOKP/CM9, and one ICS-Sense.. teamwork! community! linux!
to each thier own, i guess. lets appreciate all the ROMs.. because if we didnt have any devs still working here wed be a lot more annoyed

On the bright side, as fixes are found/created the existing ROMs can be patched and you'll have more functioning ROMs to choose from. Also, these guys went from ports to compiling and then they started modding framework-res.apk's and SystemUI.apk's for theming. Essentially, if they hadn't done all this work their knowledge would not have progressed like it has. Now they will be able to use those skills to continue to benefit the whole community if they choose.

Wow total lack of respect from a NOBODY! Don't worry ill have all my threads closed and good luck with this phone stay on stock for all I care name 1 single thing u have contributed to this community besides u whinning and complaining about everything good luck to this community and the rest of the devs that are still here... This is the last you guys will have heard from me... GOOD LUCK! !
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Way to go fellas...say goodbye to Awesome. Anyway, do yo guys read the ICS OPs? Here is a nice quote that explains stuff. Bit seriously. Be thankful for ICS....posts like these make us feel unappreciated.
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FAQ - THE BIG PICTURE​
What is ICS?
ICS is Ice Cream Sandwich - Google's latest version of Android.
- Some of the very latest phones on the market already have it installed. e.g HTC One series
- Some slightly older phones will eventually be 'upgraded' to ICS e.g Desire HD, but this may be a number of months away, and promised 'upgrades' have sometimes never been delivered at all.
- If / when it does arrive for Desire HD it may not happen for everybody at the same time, sometimes it's carrier by carrier, and finally 'retail' (non carrier branded) handsets that get the upgrade last!
- If / when it does arrive, it will be overlayed with HTC's Sense (some like it, some don't)
- In the meantime, folks are working on getting ICS on your Desire HD BEFORE it's officially released for the phone, with and without Sense (giving you a choice)
So why don't some features work?
Well, the ICS being used on Desire HD is 'taken' from officially released ICS phones like the HTC One range, or 'leaked' ROMS from similar phones.
However, those phones have slightly different hardware and features than the Desire HD - so they aren't exactly the same. This means that parts of the software have to be 'ported' to work on the Desire HD.
OK, so why is porting so difficult?
The Android O/S is 'open source' meaning that anybody can see the actual source code for themselves, and see how it all works. They can modify it and adapt it to suit their needs (good).
Phone manufacturers USE Android in their phones, but they don't have to make all their own 'extra' software open source too. They like to protect their software by keeping it secret (not so good). There are many reasons why they do this, both good and bad, but it makes porting difficult.
When developers don't have access to the source code for parts of a phone, they have to write their own!... this means they have to have highly detailed knowledge of the phone, its hardware and other software components. Sometimes they can try things by trial and error, sometimes they have knowledge from a similar phone, and sometimes they just don't know.
This is the most common issue for 'ported' ROMS. Things like Power Management, Camera, WiFi, GPS etc are the things that make one manufacturer's phone stand out from another, and therefore end up 'secret'.
This does not mean that they will never work, it only means that they take longer to get working.
Who does the porting?
The actual porting is done by surprisingly few people:
- Some guys who know 'inside secrets'
- Some guys who are just great developers but who don't have the secrets
- Some guys who can develop but need a little guidance
- Some of them are 'great guys' helping the community (and keeping their own skills up to date)
- Some of them have other motives (good and bad)
- Some of them form teams to work on different ports
Why don't all the developers work together?
Developers are people - they have all the same issues as everybody else:
- Some like working alone
- Some feel that other developers standards aren't high enough
- Some are trying to fix a specific problem that THEY want fixed
- Some teams have different goals (one team might be aiming for a port that can work on 5 different phones, whilst another team are focused on a single phone. One team may want a totally 'clean' ROM and another want a ROM with lots of customisation options built in)
- Sometimes, people just don't get along with each other
I thought the ROM makers did all this work?
You'd be wrong.
The ROM developers use the ported code to make their ROMs. Sometimes they can choose different components from the various development teams to build a ROM.
Imagine a motor car:
1) The 'developers' make the engine, wheels, steering, chassis etc
2) The ROM Makers build their car choosing the components they need for their ROM
3) The 'Modders' add custom paint colours, fancy headlights, custom interior etc
The 'developers' are not smarter than the ROM makers, and the ROM makers are not smarter than the modders. They just have different roles (and some people do all three roles!)
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...Awesome... said:
Wow total lack of respect from a NOBODY! Don't worry ill have all my threads closed and good luck with this phone stay on stock for all I care name 1 single thing u have contributed to this community besides u whinning and complaining about everything good luck to this community and the rest of the devs that are still here... This is the last you guys will have heard from me... GOOD LUCK! !
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Though I respect and agree with you I really hope you're kidding because if your not I'm probably gonna cry. How am I supposed to sh*t rainbows now!?
I have half a mind to hurl insults at the OP(Way Off Base) as if I were in a drunken rage. Not only did he offend but he called out a Dev which is uncalled for. You can say sorry for offending someone all you want but your sorrys, and you for a matter of fact haven't done sh*t for our device. I don't believe you have the right to rant seeing as how you have contributed nothing and possibly just cost the MT4G one of its best devs. I hope we still have developers that are not fed up with us.

...Awesome... said:
Wow total lack of respect from a NOBODY! Don't worry ill have all my threads closed and good luck with this phone stay on stock for all I care name 1 single thing u have contributed to this community besides u whinning and complaining about everything good luck to this community and the rest of the devs that are still here... This is the last you guys will have heard from me... GOOD LUCK! !
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Well, damn....
Please mind the collective ego of the Dev's here. It bruises pretty easily. I tried to make the point earlier that all that work is very useful because it hones their skills, but I guess it was already too late. I sincerely hope we haven't lost another one.
Don't forget that, basically the best ICS kernel we have came from a mod that ...Awesome... did on the Tiamat kernel
Also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641147

estallings15 said:
Well, damn....
Please mind the collective ego of the Dev's here. It bruises pretty easily. I tried to make the point earlier that all that work is very useful because it hones their skills, but I guess it was already too late. I sincerely hope we haven't lost another one.
Don't forget that, basically the best ICS kernel we have came from a mod that ...Awesome... did on the Tiamat kernel
Also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641147
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The point I'm trying to make is non of you guys know what goes on behind the scenes you just have people like the OP to complain about any little thing... For example who here's noticed elginsk8r had his own cyanogen kernel on his cm9 Rom?? Who here knows that THEindian is working on the vkernel? Who here knows blackwing and I are trying to compile a kernel for the camcorder to work? Who here noticed if u flash elginsk8r kernel u get semi working camcorder don't say we aren't working together on fixes if u guys knew all and every little thing we all are doing and don't come out publicly and say it doesn't mean we aren't working together because WE ARE because it benefits all of us not just 1 person
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...Awesome... said:
The point I'm trying to make is non of you guys know what goes on behind the scenes you just have people like the OP to complain about any little thing... For example who here's noticed elginsk8r had his own cyanogen kernel on his cm9 Rom?? Who here knows that THEindian is working on the vkernel? Who here knows blackwing and I are trying to compile a kernel for the camcorder to work? Who here noticed if u flash elginsk8r kernel u get semi working camcorder don't say we aren't working together on fixes if u guys knew all and every little thing we all are doing and don't come out publicly and say it doesn't mean we aren't working together because WE ARE because it benefits all of us not just 1 person
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Amen. Honestly people. Patience...

my 2¢
I personally didn't think the OP was disrespectful. I think a number of devs are probably feeling similar frustrations even if from a different perspective.
I do think it is up to each user to decide to try new ROMs. If they don't work for you, then its a non-starter - go back to what works for you without complaint.
I also think it is important to remember that there are many different types of users - always. I am a software developer and I hit the same thing in my work. Some people are just looking for a solid ROM - and lack much understanding of the underlying complexity. That they're here at all places them way beyond the average smartphone buyer.
Others are Android jockies - here every day (even every minute) with a lot of their life revolving around ROM dev/swapping. It's probably important to them how they're perceived in this community.
Constructive criticism will and can be received differently by everyone within that spectrum.
Personally, I think it's great to have lots of options - it will end up serving everyone. At the level of experience I have (little!), I have gotten confused when the ROM thread titles are cute and don't indicate what they are - or their lineage. When I dig in and read the threads, there's definitely good ICS options there.

HMMMMM
I DON'T PAY BUT I USE, I DON'T FIX,BUT I COMPLAIN - IF IT DON'T WORK I'M READY FOR A QUICK FIX. TOO MANY CHOICES[somethings wrong]. NOT ENOUGH CHOICES[someone's lazy]. go to any other android forum and see how many folks are interested in mt4g. HARDLY ANY. PLEASE BE GLAD FOR WHAT WE HAVE.

I for one would like to say that I feel almost ashamed, that I use these roms, and I don't say thank you enough. Let me be honest, because at my age, its hard to fall asleep at night, having told a lie. I'm struggling right now, keeping my power on, & feeding my family. I'm laid off and looking for work, and while I would love to donate to these devs for their work, I simply don't have the money. But as soon as I do, I will gladly. I'm not looking for pity, just being honest. But a big thanks to all devs, porters, mods, anyone that devotes time here, because that's something I do know, time is a precious thing that shouldn't be taken for granted..
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I don't think the OP was being disrespectful or intended to.
I see where he's coming from b/c there are a lot of ICS ROMs with common issues. Like we don't need three different AOKP ROMs for example, and if anything, it's gotta be hard on ...Awesome... to track progress for the fact he has several ICS builds and different threads, at least that's what I think, which is why I agree with the OP when he calls ...Awesome... out like that b/c all of his ROMs are basically the same, just w/ different "flavors" so it seems. If it was me, I'd put out just one ROM and give you guys no choice at all. If you really want all the silly things like themes and stuff, then do it yourself.
The vanilla ROM, is perfect. AOKP is fine. CM9, great. But ****ting Rainbows and Rootie Tootie (which is bloated to the max IMO) are unnecessary, esp. since it doesn't fix any of the core problems such as RR and SoD's and etc. and that only adds more threads to keep up with and distracts you from the things that really do matter. Yea it's cool and neat that you can get a ton of extra add ons into the ROM, but don't put all your work into just trying to make those silly settings and stuff work.
And another thing, ICS is a neat little project for our device, but if you want all that other **** and keep acting like you absolutely need to have ICS fully functional on this old outdated phone, then either A) go back to GB and be content w/ that until ICS is out of BETA or B) get a new damn phone, like everyone else has been doing. We're obsessed w/ ICS when we have perfectly, fully functional GB ROMs that devs have worked hard on too, like sckboy for example. He's still putting out GB ROMs and I bet some of you guys aren't aware of this at all b/c the ICS threads stay at the top of the forums pretty much.

jjbadd385 said:
I for one would like to say that I feel almost ashamed, that I use these roms, and I don't say thank you enough. Let me be honest, because at my age, its hard to fall asleep at night, having told a lie. I'm struggling right now, keeping my power on, & feeding my family. I'm laid off and looking for work, and while I would love to donate to these devs for their work, I simply don't have the money. But as soon as I do, I will gladly. I'm not looking for pity, just being honest. But a big thanks to all devs, porters, mods, anyone that devotes time here, because that's something I do know, time is a precious thing that shouldn't be taken for granted..
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Thanks man and like I've said before nobody here is doing it for money/donations specially me I do it for people to have a variety and its a hobby for me that I love doing...
I have a
Sense rom for all u sense freaks
AOSP & a AOKP rom for u ics fans
Cm9 rom
Variety!!! if it bothered the OP so much that theirs variety don't flash non of my ROMS thank you again and ill say it again as long as in my count 1 person is still using ANY of my roms ill keep updating them ENOUGH with this thread and the OP. Till he contributes 1 thing to this community he should be allowed to complain!!! As far as ANY other person in this community instead of complaining about a feature offer a suggestion the best one ive hear came yesterday when someone said they needed wifi calling for daily use sure they reported the same problem AGAIN but atleast he made a suggestion on how to fix it or try to fix it...
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Cyanogenmod 9 RC1 is out 6-26-2012

Here you guys go! Enjoy
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum-267/announcement-24-cyanogenmod-90-rc1-released-2012-jun-26/
EDIT: It appears as though it's still being uploaded to the servers, as I don't see it in the download section yet. I'm sure it'll be up shortly.

Hopefully there will be more details on things.
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Download is up.
Wait never mind. It says download but doesn't look available.
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i dont get that forum or site, somedays i can log in on the forum and others (like yesterday and today) i get a "Sorry, you don't have permission for that!" page and i cant login. and yes i've cleared cookies and all that, i even get it on my phone

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Download is up.
Wait never mind. It says download but doesn't look available.
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Yeah, I don't see our device on that page either.

Cause it isn't going to happen... think it was just a fluke, I looked at the p990 thread earlier and saw nothing on the matter and they'd be blowing up compared to us. So I think it was just a misunderstanding
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Sorry to get everyone's hopes up.
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Not coming for G2x I guess, not until LG/Nvidia release something.

All we can do is hope an official ICS release is made for the G2X or the O2X so we actually get hardware acceleration...

i know everyone wants an official ICS release but there are plenty of ICS roms for our phone, whats so special about a CM9 one? they all have the same drawbacks so really its just a matter of preference. and since cyanogen makes roms for just about every single phone out there he cant take the time to customize one for our phone, thats why i think the devs here make better roms

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i know everyone wants an official ICS release but there are plenty of ICS roms for our phone, whats so special about a CM9 one? they all have the same drawbacks so really its just a matter of preference. and since cyanogen makes roms for just about every single phone out there he cant take the time to customize one for our phone, thats why i think the devs here make better roms
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Cyanogenmod is split into teams. Ricardo works on our phone and he's the one that made ics even possible for us. As great as our devs are, they're all using his fixes.
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dodgefan67 said:
i know everyone wants an official ICS release but there are plenty of ICS roms for our phone, whats so special about a CM9 one? they all have the same drawbacks so really its just a matter of preference. and since cyanogen makes roms for just about every single phone out there he cant take the time to customize one for our phone, thats why i think the devs here make better roms
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Aren't you the beta tester for someone on these threads? You should learn a little more before saying things that are incorrect to the public... Yes our group for the G2X is doing some awesome work, but none of those are actually usable for a lot of us. I use my phone actually, alot and ICS is no where near usable, I don't even record or anything but even taking a picture and exiting out the app a certain way will cause for a reboot to be able to take a picture again... and like monkee said, Ricardo (Cm_arcee) is the CM dev for our phone and almost if not all LG line of phones. If CM team were to release an official RC it would be with fully working everything at least. That's why we were excited with it, compared to what is available now.

redmonke255 said:
Cyanogenmod is split into teams. Ricardo works on our phone and he's the one that made ics even possible for us. As great as our devs are, they're all using his fixes.
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totally forgot about arcee and as far as all the roms here using his fixes i dont see that as completely true as there are some roms here that are using AOSP pure so not using CM at all. unless (and this may be possible) his fixes are getting added into the code upstream then in a round about way those using AOSP would be using his fixes
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Aren't you the beta tester for someone on these threads? You should learn a little more before saying things that are incorrect to the public... Yes our group for the G2X is doing some awesome work, but none of those are actually usable for a lot of us. I use my phone actually, alot and ICS is no where near usable, I don't even record or anything but even taking a picture and exiting out the app a certain way will cause for a reboot to be able to take a picture again... and like monkee said, Ricardo (Cm_arcee) is the CM dev for our phone and almost if not all LG line of phones. If CM team were to release an official RC it would be with fully working everything at least. That's why we were excited with it, compared to what is available now.
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and yeah im a beta tester for Genesis and what did i say that was incorrect? and just because im a beta tester does not necessarily mean i know everything there is to know about android, but i know enough. i didnt mean to offend CM or people who love CM, but ive used it as well and really it just comes down to preferences. i truly dont think that CM is the be-all-end-all of G2x roms...thats all im saying
and why would anyone think that when CM releases a rom that it will be error free or have all features? i've been using 7.2 and for a few releases bluetooth call audio isnt working and that is the case with 7.2 stable, so your argument about having everything working doesnt hold any water

Don't mean to sound like I'm bashing you but I don't mind spreading the knowledge I've gained over the years of basic rooting and android...
None of what you see except for the OTA stock based roms are doable without the CM team... EB AOSP included. It says on their 1st page "A BIG THANKS TO CM-TEAM for they're amazing work without these guys hard work and great features none of this would be possible for me..." it's just how it is, Steve (cyanogen) Kondik has been at it since the G1 days... so CM is pretty much the "be-all-end-all of G2x roms" if your phone didn't function well on stock... every phone is like that, not just the G2X, other wise we will have stock based roms with tweaks here and there but making the lock screens and coding them out to where they function like they do is mostly and all Cyanogen... This is what I've gathered over the years if I'm wrong about some of it, I wouldn't surprised... Since I've been rooting and everything for the past 4 years, I should be a Dev by now but I'm too lazy for that plus work, school and a social life, I don't have the patience either haha.
7.2 stable is not stable but it is about 100X more stable then CM9 in my eyes and lots others, some people have no issue with it being the way it is but I'm super picky and 23 years old, I go out a lot and answer lots of calls, need stable battery those sorts of things, ICS is none of what I need or want on the G2X... also why I'm switching phones shortly.
again I didn't mean to attack, just opinionated I guess lol.

no worries, i didnt take it that way, im pretty opinionated as well
and you have great points about how you use your phone and what you need from it. i guess thats where i need to make a mental note that not everyone here uses their phone the same way and want different things from it and the software that runs on it
and i did not in anyway mean for my posts to sound like i was bashing cyanogen (dont know him well enough to call him Steve LOL). what they do is incredible and they (and all the other devs here) make flashing our phones fun (at least for me)
i think this can be let go, no harm no foul?

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no worries, i didnt take it that way, im pretty opinionated as well
and you have great points about how you use your phone and what you need from it. i guess thats where i need to make a mental note that not everyone here uses their phone the same way and want different things from it and the software that runs on it
and i did not in anyway mean for my posts to sound like i was bashing cyanogen (dont know him well enough to call him Steve LOL). what they do is incredible and they (and all the other devs here) make flashing our phones fun (at least for me)
i think this can be let go, no harm no foul?
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I in know way know him lol, just have followed him for years, he's an android celebrity after all... and definitely no harm no foul!
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I told everyone that Ricardo promises to port it as soon as he gets his hands on it. I had a long conversation with a friend last night about these fauxm9 ROMs. If you read my interview with Ricardo you would know he totally regrets his decision to release this crap. Source has even been pulled from cm. Our "CM9" source is a pile of app breaking hacks. I have the upmost respect for our devs, it is not their fault, but they have put soooo many band aids on this turd that I've noticed stability diminishing with each release. Too many patches, no real fixes. If anyone has noticed, ics releases have slowed dramatically. On the other hand, CM7 is on the brink of perfection, yet nobody's doing any kangs. What's left on CM7, blue tooth? I'm sure if devs worked on it they could figure it out in no time. Anyway, that's my opinion, and it's formed from pretty good sources.
I'm sure everyone knows what great friends mt3g and I are, but I stand by his his last comments. CM9 doesn't exist for our phone. Period.
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I told everyone that Ricardo promises to port it as soon as he gets his hands on it. I had a long conversation with a friend last night about these fauxm9 ROMs. If you read my interview with Ricardo you would know he totally regrets his decision to release this crap. Source has even been pulled from cm. Our "CM9" source is a pile of app breaking hacks. I have the upmost respect for our devs, it is not their fault, but they have put soooo many band aids on this turd that I've noticed stability diminishing with each release. Too many patches, no real fixes. If anyone has noticed, ics releases have slowed dramatically. On the other hand, CM7 is on the brink of perfection, yet nobody's doing any kangs. What's left on CM7, blue tooth? I'm sure if devs worked on it they could figure it out in no time. Anyway, that's my opinion, and it's formed from pretty good sources.
I'm sure everyone knows what great friends mt3g and I are, but I stand by his his last comments. CM9 doesn't exist for our phone. Period.
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Couldn't agree more .

Right! I love ICS and CM9, but fact is, these latest kangs of kanged kangs are soooo unstable it's comical they're being released. Focus should turn to CM7 until cm or lg releases something for ICS. Trust me, LG has to do ics for the O2x, it will be here soon enough.
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Is there a Stable ROM?

Been using the bullet proof rom since I got this phone about 10 months ago, as much as I would like to switch to something better, I cant because it looks like almost every rom available is pre-alpha pre-beta, comes with a bunch of things not working, or has battery issues.
I know the Doubleshot isnt a popular phone, but this is really starting to suck. Seems to me that someone decides to build a new rom, makes a few updates over 2-3 months, then completely abandons the project due to getting a new phone. Wash, rinse and repeat.
Id love to have a cyanogenmod 7 mod, yet alone 9 for this phone, or even a stock ICS 4.04 rom, but it doesnt look like its ever going to happen with this phone. I think this will be the last HTC phone I buy, ive had 3 of them (one was WinMo 6.0) and none of them had official updates. All I can do now is watch people post a ROM, provide a few updates, then completely abandon the project.
What is the most stable ICS or CM9 rom available? Cause I sure as hell dont see it in the developers forum.

Well....you COULD look about 5 posts below this one and get a clue or two. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858512
But if you missed that one I can certainly see why the hell you "missed" anything you might like over in the Developer's Section. The real beauty of Android is you can just say "To HELL with the official updates". KWIM?

Usually reading through what others post about a ROM helps make the choice in what to flash. Seems how there are a few recent threads with almost this exact thing I take it your not the reading type? Just because something is labeled alpha or beta does not mean their not stable enough for a daily driver, it just means not everything works. 90% of our "dev threads" are ROMS you would never see ( ie from a different device ) so having them 90% functional, only missing features from the other device ( because ours can't do them ) is great development.
Blue was kind enough to post system.img and boot.img from the latest ota ( links could be shot because of a goo crash ) and dsi made the dsixda kitchen that will cook them images into a rooted Stock ROM. The kitchen will need a file added to tools/edify_defs ( its a script that allows the kitchen to know the partition locations of your device ) because he dropped support a while ago, but it works great as a tool. So you could always start there and once you get some things under your belt you could jump in and lend a hand in this long term support you are seeking?
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I do think that people arrive at your conclusions due to three main reasons:
- The misunderstanding that developers are doing this for the users. ( some may, by far most are not)
- The user mentality of owning a smart phone. You want to have this device as long as you can, and get the most out of it.
Most devs see it another way. They want to stay on the cutting edge and try to break new ground. Regardless of how awesome a device is at launch, you are still looking at a limited window of time before it's old hat.
I think that more and more you will be seeing devs moving on more quickly due to the commercial success of the smart phone. Not just an expensive device for a few, anymore they are a dime a dozen for the many.
I've owned 3 doubleshots, still have two. Have an SGSIII, and am thinking about picking up one of the SGSIII international models.
...and that is fast becoming the M.O. of development. Squeeze out whatever learning you can until you benefit more from newer hardware.
Some devs will work on a device until it's about to or just starting to lose it's resale value so they can minimize the move forward.
- The third - and arguably most important reason - is the average user has no idea how much time, effort but most of all frustration goes into working on a device.
Especially for newer devs. For every one accomplishment, there are many, many failures. Failures that may have taken days of almost around the clock work. Failures that - in order to reach - took the place of spending time with friends, significant others or social gatherings. Giving up that day with your friends at the beach just to spend the whole time working on something that not only doesn't work, but even the parts of it you can salvage aren't useful.
This is what learning is like when you are the steward of your own education. You have to make sacrifices like ignoring your friends and family, cutting down on work hours, blowing off your girlfriend for a box with a screen.
Guess what - that whole graphics project for bulletproof that resulted in a 3 part tutorial? A 70 something hour bender where I walked away from the machine twice for less then ten minutes a pop for a quick bathroom break and to make some ramen noodles.
It was ramen noodles because I stopped working for a few months to learn android and build stuff for the doubleshot. Pennies can only be pinched so far.
...and I can't tell you how much I despise and hate actually doing graphics work. It makes me agitated and angry.
But ya know what? I did it to show what could be done and generate tutorials so other people could do it and free me to do other things, yet still enjoy the visual entertainment/enhancements the community would bring.
...and I was let down, in a big way. No one else really got into doing it. No one else invested the time to make graphical mods to. apk files we have or to sense. ( no slight to the very few of you that did)
You've had this phone for ten months, where are your roms, mods or graphical enhancements and stuff?
You argue that so few get involved - yet you do little to help.
This device was my first step into the dev ring. If I can be as successful at it - no reason you can't too. If you'd rather spend time doing other things, well, you never will learn to dev.
These kind of threads are disheartening. The community survives and thrives through your participation. By not pitching in to help, you are forcing the few that do to bear the weight of all forward development for the device.
Don't complain that we few are burnt out when you can't count yourself amongst us.
This division is one you highlight, while we try to eliminate. Come to our side and help out.
Bulletproof had over 2,000 downloads when I checked last back in march/april. No one used it as a springboard to build on?
At the end of the day...
elister said:
What is the most stable ICS or CM9 rom available? Cause I sure as hell dont see it in the developers forum.
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Well....you COULD look about 5 posts below this one and get a clue or two. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858512
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Oh I saw that, but i'll pass on an alpha build, need something stable, plus im not sure what version of Android thats even based on.

WeekendsR2Short said:
Well....you COULD look about 5 posts below this one and get a clue or two. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858512
But if you missed that one I can certainly see why the hell you "missed" anything you might like over in the Developer's Section. The real beauty of Android is you can just say "To HELL with the official updates". KWIM?
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Usually reading through what others post about a ROM helps make the choice in what to flash. Seems how there are a few recent threads with almost this exact thing I take it your not the reading type? Just because something is labeled alpha or beta does not mean their not stable enough for a daily driver, it just means not everything works. 90% of our "dev threads" are ROMS you would never see ( ie from a different device ) so having them 90% functional, only missing features from the other device ( because ours can't do them ) is great development.
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When I see a rom posted in the developers forum, if its based on ICS 4.0 or better, all I do is read the what works and what doesnt work section. For a long time it seemed almost every rom had problems with the SD card being used as a USB Flash drive (meaning I would have to disconnect the SDHC, connect to reader just to copy files). Now the problems tend to either be camera related (which I absolutely need) or battery issues in which it gets hot or drains faster.
So way early on, I was reading through pages upon pages of posts to see if problems get resolved (which often they dont unless they post another build), but now I just read the first page to get to the details (to see whats not working in the rom), then pass when there are too many things not working.
I kinda like the official update, because they tend to be stable.

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Oh I saw that, but i'll pass on an alpha build, need something stable, plus im not sure what version of Android thats even based on.
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U need to lower you rom standards or make the perfect cm9/ics rom. I had a problem with our device not having enough roms until someone explained to me that we don't need 20 diff cm7 roms or 10 diff ics roms. Our devs do a good job so we don't need those the amount of roms we have is good look at the older smartphones and their roms. U see they are not up to date. (Like most of ours)
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lower your rom standards?
K7Cobb said:
U need to lower you rom standards or make the perfect cm9/ics rom. I had a problem with our device not having enough roms until someone explained to me that we don't need 20 diff cm7 roms or 10 diff ics roms. Our devs do a good job so we don't need those the amount of roms we have is good look at the older smartphones and their roms. U see they are not up to date. (Like most of ours)
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lower your rom standards?
i totally agree with the op. i'm not complaining about the great work the devs are doing. they're doing what they do because they love it and that's great. but every rom has issues in the "doesn't work" section and there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
if there was a single rom with no known issues, i'd be on it in a heart beat. especially a sense-less one. i'd even take gingerbread if it was no known issues.
and as for "we don't need 20 different cm7 roms and 10 different ics roms" ... of course we don't. i'd like to see ONE of each that's fully working.

polarbearmc said:
lower your rom standards?
i totally agree with the op. i'm not complaining about the great work the devs are doing. they're doing what they do because they love it and that's great. but every rom has issues in the "doesn't work" section and there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
if there was a single rom with no known issues, i'd be on it in a heart beat. especially a sense-less one. i'd even take gingerbread if it was no known issues.
and as for "we don't need 20 different cm7 roms and 10 different ics roms" ... of course we don't. i'd like to see ONE of each that's fully working.
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Yes thats the goal but if theyve released the rom with 1 or 2 problems then why should it be a problem. I use virtuous infinty and has 2 problems thats it. Dont quote me but i dont think there is a PERFECT ROM. Because again it is a rom not made by the company but our devs. And then again the roms our devs make have less serious problems than the ones companies have
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polarbearmc said:
lower your rom standards?
i totally agree with the op. i'm not complaining about the great work the devs are doing. they're doing what they do because they love it and that's great. but every rom has issues in the "doesn't work" section and there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
if there was a single rom with no known issues, i'd be on it in a heart beat. especially a sense-less one. i'd even take gingerbread if it was no known issues.
and as for "we don't need 20 different cm7 roms and 10 different ics roms" ... of course we don't. i'd like to see ONE of each that's fully working.
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Then you get the invite to either put up some work, or fall back to the shadows. You guys asking for stuff we do for free in our free time sucks. And to see how unappreciated we are. If we pulled all links everyone that's whining now would be in tears
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strapped365 said:
Then you get the invite to either put up some work, or fall back to the shadows. You guys asking for stuff we do for free in our free time sucks. And to see how unappreciated we are. If we pulled all links everyone that's whining now would be in tears
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EXACTLY. I'm not a dev but this is what I did not want to happen but seems like nobody can agree
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For those that haven't taken the time to READ to see what others are saying about how a ROM works......well there is no excuse for you and IMHO have no business saying a word about anything. If a person is so smart that they know how things SHOULD work but can't even figure out a few commands in ADB & how to make it work then you're getting things backasswards. Just download it, evaluate it and if you don't expend the friggin' TIME to read then just STFU!
What you're showing is ABSOLUTELY NO RESPECT for the vast amounts of time and effort these developers have sat at home alone into the wee hours of the morning LEARNING by trial & error and collaboration among themselves for their OWN betterment. NOT FOR OURS!!! We are ALL damn lucky that they see fit to share ANYTHING with ANY of us and ask for nothing more that a little honest feedback and an occasional THANK YOU!
now....off my friggin' soapbox

polarbearmc said:
lower your rom standards?
there's no reason us users shouldn't be asking for a rom with nothing left that doesn't work. i mean that should be everyones goal, right?
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We shouldn't be asking unless we can help in some way, shape or form. As you said, all the devs are doing what they can though we may not be aware of it. Look at how much time Blue put in Bulletproof alone. Kudos Blue!!!
If you want a ROM with no known issues, it exists! Go back to STOCK! LoL One of each ROM that's fully working will not happen because of the reasons that Blue listed and I agree with him completely. And the term "lower your ROM standards" is very fitting to me. It doesn't mean settle for less, but more so just pick the ROM that best suits you. They are there.
My DD right now is MikXE for various reasons and I've never had a single problem with it...at all. I don't use WiFi tethering or WiFi calling but those are features important to some(now I'd LOVE for just 1 feature to be added to it *cough* screenoffmusiccontrol Strapped *cough* LoL), but if it doesn't I'm not going to die. Already perfect in my eyes and I love it the way it is! And Blue's Bulletproof is flawless, everything works!
If a person doesn't like reading then XDA isn't the place to be. Sometimes within the thread there are tips shown that will fix some issues within the ROM that one might not know existed without reading. Then, in other threads there are ways to tweak things to get certain features working in the ROM that may show as not working in the OP...sometimes! Either way, if we want EVERY single feature on the phone working (Even the ones we don't use?) then Stock/Bulletproof is the only way to go. Otherwise, just get a new phone...?
Makes no sense feeling we deserve better for our phones when we have better, but just not up to "our standards". What the devs do...is FREE! As Strapped mentioned, if we had none of these ROMs/Threads, what would we do then? I for one sure as hell don't want to find out!

WELL SAID!!!!

Threads like this sincerely make me sick. I'm an end user ONLY for lack of a viable machine to build on... Somehow i figure building roms on the device isn't feasible (haha!) But my first reaction to this thread was "don't flame the guy don't flame the guy."
These developers have taken what some people get paid to do and enhanced it to almost an art form where they are singularly doing the job that entire DEVELOPMENT teams get paid to do for MONTHS at a time and you have a developer like XMC working on 4 roms at a time AND a kernel and whatever else AND a real job and school or whatever. Seriously if they aren't doing enough for you then code your own dream rom or run miktouch (which ran off stock kernel PERFECTLY for me for the first three months I was rooted).
Besides... What is stable for me might not be for you, or for any of the other end users here. I've ran MikXE, Vanillabean, MikMIUI, CM9 alphas 2-6, Paranoid Android and am currently running Virtuous Infinity alpha 2. ALL have been more than stable enough to function for me with a few quirks... Given i don't depend on Wifi as much as some, but still. Everyone makes a huge deal out of 1080 camcorder but seriously on this screen nobody can tell a resolution difference. I needed gps to work well and calling to work... I was a pizza delivery guy so that was what I needed to be stable.
Seriously to the OP - IF you aren't brave enough to try roms and see what works for you (seeing as how i've had ZERO of the reported bugs i've seen on most of the roms i have run) then stfu and do us all a favor and go back to stock or get a nexus and have a good time. There you can have 50 versions of everything you could ever want to ***** about. OR become a viable member of this great team and contribute. Help test the roms because stability is only a NAND away.
*steps off my soapbox*
And to answer the subject question:
There are plenty of stable roms to choose from. Most every rom here can be used as a daily driver... It just comes down to what YOU can live with as far as bugs go... After all stock had that battery getting really hot "bug" didn't it?
Wifi disconnecting with screen off without an app seems so inconsequential compared to a bug that can fry your device, right? Lets not forget that i've been testing roms and kernels that might've fried my device with only a G1 as a backup LOL.
Oh yeah... And in case you guys missed it...
TBalden, Kornyone, XMC-Wildchild,Strapped365, Sun_Dream, Blue and the rest... You guys kick ass. Let me know if you're ever in Bama and i'll buy you all a beer or several. And... Welcome riyal as well! You have taken my doubleshot from stock hell to the ecstasy that is whatever os i feel like running at any given time.
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Well to tell all the ICS ROMs around here should have been stable already only if we were given ICS updates. Problem is we were not and developers recycle CM source code or ROMs from other HTC devices praying that most of them would work to bring up ICS on our device. Ok that's fine but there are propriety files still missing or incompatible drivers which makes the bugs. Unless some dev would put his life in reverse engineering the missing drivers and stuffs we wouldn't be expecting any stable ICS ROMs here.
@onebornoflight
what did I do? Lol I'm no doubleshot developer yet I'm still at the learning stage just owning this device for almost just a week now. Didn't provide any development stuffs yet

Riyal said:
@onebornoflight
what did I do? Lol I'm no doubleshot developer yet I'm still at the learning stage just owning this device for almost just a week now. Didn't provide any development stuffs yet
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You have started contributing - that kernel in the virtuous beta post is a contribution - see you HAVE provided dev type stuff...
Or would you prefer to be unincluded LOL?
And welcome btw!
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I used a hasoon toolkit to root my phone and all that clockwork stuff... and the I used a tool to fastboot the cm9 boot.img..and then flashed the cm9 rom by kornyone.. ITS AWESOME... ICS FTW ON MT4GS....Ifeel like I got a new phone the rom is stable there is literally only one thing wrong with it and that's the front camera is upside down when using gtalk vid chat....but that doesn't matter... its still awesomely awesome
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jesusjv95 said:
I used a hasoon toolkit to root my phone and all that clockwork stuff... and the I used a tool to fastboot the cm9 boot.img..and then flashed the cm9 rom by kornyone.. ITS AWESOME... ICS FTW ON MT4GS....Ifeel like I got a new phone the rom is stable there is literally only one thing wrong with it and that's the front camera is upside down when using gtalk vid chat....but that doesn't matter... its still awesomely awesome
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Crap.... There's a fix for that somewhere in another kernel I think. I can't remember which one though.
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Crap.... There's a fix for that somewhere in another kernel I think. I can't remember which one though.
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Its fixed in the latest alphas, should also be fixed in the latest "stable". But run alpha 5 its the most stable. Overall
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