Just bought a used TF201 dock, but Im not sure it works properly! How do I see the firmware version? How do l see how much the battery is charged on the dock? The widget with both batteries says 0% in the dock even though it has changed for many hours.
If I press on the Dock Connected sign it just says 0%. The LED lamp of the dock flashes red when its charging, not constant red as the tablet does.
Is the dock defective or why won't it charge? Does it need firmware update? I can use all the other functions of the dock BTW.
It says 'TF201-DOCK-0207'
is that the correct firmware? How do I update the firmware?
That's really weird. It should be solid red when charging the dock. Im assuming you tried a reboot with the dock plugged in. If you plug the charger into the tablet does a charging insignia show up? If not then you probably don't have enough voltage to charge the dock as you would be "trickle charging" the tablet
If its not a voltage issue then you may have a bad charger, bad dock keyboard or bad tablet. I would first test the charger and tablet first. If that proves to work I.E. the tablet charges then I would move the tablet and charge the dock keyboar. If that works then insert the tablet into the dock keyboard and see if the charger will do both. Remember that the tablet will NOT charge the tablet with. It's battery until the tablets. Battery goes below the 70% threshold.
The adapter charges the tablet with or without the dock. The dock however doesn´t recharge whether its with the tablet or not :crying:
PederDingo said:
The adapter charges the tablet with or without the dock. The dock however doesn´t recharge whether its with the tablet or not :crying:
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By what you're describing you aren't actually charging the dock is what people are saying. Usually charge is constant orange/red not flashing. If it is flashing when you are charging something is wrong. Does the dock go to green when on the charger for a period of time like a few hours? If not it's not charging.
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By what you're describing you aren't actually charging the dock is what people are saying. Usually charge is constant orange/red not flashing. If it is flashing when you are charging something is wrong. Does the dock go to green when on the charger for a period of time like a few hours? If not it's not charging.
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The dock doesn't charge. No matter how long its in the tablets charger it just blinks red. Even after being charged all night it still flashes red. No constant red or green.
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The dock doesn't charge. No matter how long its in the tablets charger it just blinks red. Even after being charged all night it still flashes red. No constant red or green.
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Sounds like the dock is bad. If it's under warranty send it in but don't tell them you're using it with a TF700 just say it won't charge with or without a tablet inserted
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Sounds like the dock is bad. If it's under warranty send it in but don't tell them you're using it with a TF700 just say it won't charge with or without a tablet inserted
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Yeah, I think I'll do that. Bought "Used - as new" through Amazon
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I'm wondering if anyone has experienced this. So far I've tried charging the dock for 9+ hours and when I unplug it, the LED still starts flashing as soon as I unplug it, indicating less than 10%~ battery left. I don't think this dock ever got a full charge ever.
Am I doing something wrong, or should I RMA the dock?
Bump, see if anyone knows the answer.
Is the charger getting hot when you plug it into the keyboard dock?
No, it doesn't get any hotter, but I know that it's passing power to the tablet, since the cable goes into the Mobile Dock and the Tablet is docked, the tablet gets a charged to 100%, but Mobile Dock doesn't
Remove the tablet part and just charge the dock on its own.
yep. charge them separately. i believe that if they are connected the tablet fills to 100% before the dock even starts to charge ....
wilbur-force said:
yep. charge them separately. i believe that if they are connected the tablet fills to 100% before the dock even starts to charge ....
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Tried it, over 10+ hours, still the LED starts flashing as soon as I unplug it.
I think I may have to RMA
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Is the charger getting hot when you plug it into the keyboard dock?
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I got same problem too.
but the charger is hot while I charge tablet or dock or both together.
dock is not charge, it always 0%.
sorry for my bad on english
Is the dock FW up to date ?
TBH .. i'd just RMA it, if its under warranty, just get it sent back.
P.S. Download the dual battery widget to see what it displays for the dock power ... but still RMA it.
I bought my transformer five days ago. PAD IS B70 and dock is B60. Dock stays charged at 33% and don't get higher. When pad reached 5% i docked it, but nothing happened it just discharges after 20 minutes. So its like there isn'tbattery in it at all.
What shouldi do?
I would suggest plug the DOCK only in, using the wall charger supplied (NOT a PC) the lil light next to the plug will be orange while charging, then green when charged.
THEN, do the same with the TABLET only. (or vice versa)
Once they are both fully charged, you shouldnt have further problems, when they are docked together. Just make sure you use the charger that came with it. It charges at a higher volatage and amperage than a USB connection to say a PC can do...
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Thats the problem, dock indicator all the time is red it's charging for 10hours, but still 34%.
Dock doesn't chrge tablet and it doesn't charge from wall chrger, just like there isn't battery at all.
I think the problem is at docks software, so tablets factory reset is useless.
Hardware
Seems you have a hardware problem or firmware problem. Is the dock on the latest firmware? If it is, I think your dock is malfunctioning and you are obliged to get a repair.
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Yes it came from asus already with 3.1and checked the dock firmware, and everything is updated, waiting for 3.2 WW, if then anything doesn't change I will take it back.
New tf700 is in transit right now, but I have a question I haven't been able to find an answer to yet...
If you plug the charger into the keyboard dock, you will obviously charge the dock battery. And the same for the infinity itself. But if you plug the charger into the dock and then attach the infinity to the dock, will it charge both the infinity and the dock?
Yes it'll charge both. Idk if its both at the same time or the dock then the tab but it does charge both.
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If your docked, it will charge both the keyboard dock and the tablet the same time.
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Malkaridae said:
If your docked, it will charge both the keyboard dock and the tablet the same time.
Cheers
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Yep, but @OP keep in mind that it does not DISCHARGE at the same time. When using the Infinity + Dock, it switches the powere source. Noone has written an app to change this (IDK if its too low level either). Makes more sense to deplete the dock when plugged in, and then rely on the tablet later. I understand what they are getting at (their way helps a lot if you use them both together a lot) but they should give the option to choose.
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Yep, but @OP keep in mind that it does not DISCHARGE at the same time. When using the Infinity + Dock, it switches the powere source. Noone has written an app to change this (IDK if its too low level either). Makes more sense to deplete the dock when plugged in, and then rely on the tablet later. I understand what they are getting at (their way helps a lot if you use them both together a lot) but they should give the option to choose.
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So, if it's not plugged in, which power gets used first? The keyboard or the tablet?
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So, if it's not plugged in, which power gets used first? The keyboard or the tablet?
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Dock discharges first. Don't know why anyone would want to change that method of charging. Even though I take the dock everywhere with me, I sometimes remove it so I can use the tablet only because it's handier that way.
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So, if it's not plugged in, which power gets used first? The keyboard or the tablet?
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The keyboard actually charges the tablet when it's not plugged in.
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The keyboard actually charges the tablet when it's not plugged in.
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I dont think so. I notice BOTH batteries depleting when I have it on the dock.
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Dock discharges first. Don't know why anyone would want to change that method of charging. Even though I take the dock everywhere with me, I sometimes remove it so I can use the tablet only because it's handier that way.
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If makes sense if you only use your tablet a lot more than your dock. When plugged in you would want to conserve as much battery in the tablet as possible so the "charging method" is to use the dock only when connected. or charge the table, effectively making the dock's battery a refill, not a supplement. If you use them both together, it makes sense to alternate. It just depends on usage patterns.
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I dont think so. I notice BOTH batteries depleting when I have it on the dock.
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I don't know what you are seeing, but when I have the tablet docked and not plugged into the charger the tablet charges and the keyboard dock is depleted. I took a screen shot to show you what I'm seeing. It's plain as day that the keyboard is charging the tablet. Of course now the screen shot won't upload.... I'll try an edit after I post.
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Got it, but it looks like crap.
Edit: I don't know why it is uploading a thumbnail!
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The tablet will drain first to ~70%, then the keyboard dock will charge the tablet back to ~90% this will continue in a loop until the dock is drained and report back as 0% battery left on dock.
The reason your seeing keyboard being drained is because lithium-ion battery overtime will slowly drain ~1% probably couple hours or so.
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Malkaridae said:
The tablet will drain first to ~70%, then the keyboard dock will charge the tablet back to ~90% this will continue in a loop until the dock is drained and report back as 0% battery left on dock.
The reason your seeing keyboard being drained is because lithium-ion battery overtime will slowly drain ~1% probably couple hours or so.
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It's not quite that simple. First, I've had my dock show 0% and blinking orange on the LED, indicating I should charge it. I still used it actively for almost a day, including the USB port from time to time. So either the tablet is then powering the dock's keyboard and ports, or the dock battery has a "reserve" battery capacity for internal use (e.g. only the dock).
It's slightly annoying seeing that 0% and blinking ("OMG, CHARGE MEEE") yet I can still use the dock without any issues.
I'd just like to see some settings/configuration parameters for dock usage. First, I don't want it to complain about 0% battery until it's actually getting low. It could just say it's not charging the tablet anymore, and keep the warning lights for when the dock's actually nearing empty.
Also, while Li-Ion batteries discharge over time because of the internal resistance, we're not talking 1% every couple of hours. You have a defective battery in that case, or a very old one.
The self-discharge of the lithium-ion battery is 5% in the first 24 hours after charge, and then reduces to 1% to 2% per month thereafter. The safety circuit adds about 3%. High cycle count and aging have little effect on the self-discharge of lithium-based batteries. A lead-acid battery self-discharges at only 5% per month or 50% per year. Repeated deep cycling increases self-discharge.
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Source: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/non_correctable_battery_problems
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Dock discharges first. Don't know why anyone would want to change that method of charging. Even though I take the dock everywhere with me, I sometimes remove it so I can use the tablet only because it's handier that way.
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Tablet discharges to about 70% +/- and then the dock charges the tablet until the dock is completely discharged, then the tablet discahrges again.
Ok, new TF700T user here, coming from a TF101. I'm trying to figure out how charging works between the dock and the tablet. With my TF101 it was obvious..when the tablet was docked, it was kept at 100% charge by the dock. Simple. Now, with the TF700T and dock, I see that I have two icons on the bottom showing the charge of each. Nice. But, the charge on my tablet keeps dropping. My dock is at 99% and the tablet is at 90%. Why isn't the dock charging the tablet? What's it waiting for?
I HAVE seen the dock charge the tablet before, I just cannot for the life of me figure out what triggers it. Can anyone explain how it works with the TF700T? Does the tablet have to drop below some % before the dock kicks in or what? Or..do I have a defective dock?
Note that when I plug the charger into the dock + tablet, both batteries charge fine.
The dock is a TF700T dock mislabeled as a TF201 dock, but confirmed to be a 700 by Asus themselves.
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Ok, new TF700T user here, coming from a TF101. I'm trying to figure out how charging works between the dock and the tablet. With my TF101 it was obvious..when the tablet was docked, it was kept at 100% charge by the dock. Simple. Now, with the TF700T and dock, I see that I have two icons on the bottom showing the charge of each. Nice. But, the charge on my tablet keeps dropping. My dock is at 99% and the tablet is at 90%. Why isn't the dock charging the tablet? What's it waiting for?
I HAVE seen the dock charge the tablet before, I just cannot for the life of me figure out what triggers it. Can anyone explain how it works with the TF700T? Does the tablet have to drop below some % before the dock kicks in or what? Or..do I have a defective dock?
Note that when I plug the charger into the dock + tablet, both batteries charge fine.
The dock is a TF700T dock mislabeled as a TF201 dock, but confirmed to be a 700 by Asus themselves.
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Sorry not an answer, but a supplementary. I have the same query and I also wonder why if I plug in the dock the total time available on the battery doesn't change, should it?? Overall what battery time should I expect +/- if I have both connected??
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Sorry not an answer, but a supplementary. I have the same query and I also wonder why if I plug in the dock the total time available on the battery doesn't change, should it?? Overall what battery time should I expect +/- if I have both connected??
Sorry to butt in - I logged in to ask the question....
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I am strongly suspecting that there is a bug in the software related to the dock charging the tablet. A quick and easy way to trigger the charging process is to simply reboot the dock + tablet combo, not plugged in to the wall...when it comes back up, BING! it starts charging the tablet. My tablet was down to 70% with the dock at 99% and there was absolutely no charging going on until I rebooted the dock + tablet.
My current theory is that something gets fubared when you plug the charging cable back into the dock + tablet combo..when you unplug it, it appears the dock won't ever charge the tablet. I need to test this further when I get home from work.
Ok now I am certain that the dock charging is not working right on the TF700T.
The "reboot" trick does work, causing the dock to charge the tablet...but only to 90%. Once it hits 90%, the charging stops.
Is there some way we can submit "bugs" to Asus? Will they even listen? I'd love to know if other TF700 owners who have the dock are seeing this.
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Probably something in here should get you started. http://www.service.asus.com/#!Contact%20Us/cw8z
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I am strongly suspecting that there is a bug in the software related to the dock charging the tablet. A quick and easy way to trigger the charging process is to simply reboot the dock + tablet combo, not plugged in to the wall...when it comes back up, BING! it starts charging the tablet. My tablet was down to 70% with the dock at 99% and there was absolutely no charging going on until I rebooted the dock + tablet.
My current theory is that something gets fubared when you plug the charging cable back into the dock + tablet combo..when you unplug it, it appears the dock won't ever charge the tablet. I need to test this further when I get home from work.
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The dock does not charge the tablet before the tab battery is down to about 70%, that is the fact for my TF201 and TF700 and according to what I've read that is the way it's supposed to be (apparantly better for the battery than the TF101 setup).
I don't think your reboot did the trick, I think it would have charged anyways. But I'm not telling you for sure, just saying I think that is the way it's supposed to be (and is for me).
Actually, then the reboot did do the trick - b/c the reboot process consumed enough battery to drop it down under the 70% margin so the dock --> tablet charging process would kick in.
I'll test that and see.
The TF 201 manual states that the tablet will go down to 70% before dock charging kicks in and rechgarges it back to about 99% and then it will stop, go back down and keep doing this, in this way it keeps the tablet charged, the dock dorps to zero at the same time that the tablet gets charged to 80, then the tablet has a nearly full charge for you to use.
And I am drunk, sorry for the typos.
Yeah, your reboot only worked because the tablet's battery fell below the threshold anyway. It charges the tablet at 70% back up to the 90s, then stops, charges again from 70-90%, stops, etc. Your battery usage ends up having spikes, looking like:
_____|\______|\_________ <-- Dock discharges to 0% here
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\ <-- Tablets main battery hits 0%
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Your ASCII art looks like a train in my email lol
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Your ASCII art looks like a train in my email lol
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My wife just made me a long island to go with the 4 rum and Dr Peppers I have had, god I love that woman!
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Haha! That's how it's supposed to look! Choo-choo!
Hello i have a problem with the tablet dock
The tablet was just stored for a long time and i got a new charger because i lost the old one, the tablet works fine but the dock stays at 0% no matter what
i flipped the switch inside the dock like once or twice a day over a week but its still at 0%
I have switched the battery from the tablet wich was at 100% to the dock and the tablet got charged like no problem but the dock it still not charging, right now its at around 80% it got discharged a little over some weeks .
The keyboard works with no problem its just not getting charge or charging the tablet when docked but if i connect the charger to the keyboard while docked it charges the tablet
I hope someone can help me
Sounds like the charging circuit is fried in the dock if the battery charges fine in the tablet
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Sounds like the charging circuit is fried in the dock if the battery charges fine in the tablet
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is there any way to test it that you know?
Buy a new charging board and replace it
Other than asking someone with a lot of micro-electronics knowledge to test it, that's the only thing I can think of
They are so cheap now though, it would be easier to just buy another one, you can get both tablet and dock on ebay for £99, or the dock for around £40
Usually when they are stored for a long time, the batteries drain and once they hit 0%, they won't charge again, but if you say that battery still works fine in the tablet half, and the dock can still charge the tablet, then it sounds like it's the actual dock charging circuit at fault, can't think of anything else other than connections being loose between the battery and the dock
The dock battery not working properly
Hi, i have Transformer TF101 (KTU87Q KaTKiss-4.4.4_036) after some time the battery in my dock stops working (icon dock battery display still 0% and red exclamation mark)and while charging the battery dock is still flashing red light. I replaced the battery for genuine type, battery can be charged (green light while full charging - OK) BUT when I turn on the tablet, then some time icon shows 0% and red exclamation mark after that for example 96%, when the tablet battery is discharged, transfomer shuts down and the icon dock battery still display example 94% What is wrong?
I made a battery calibration but nothing has changed.
Why new replaced genuine dock battery not working?
Thank you
Meldo
Petter005 said:
Hello i have a problem with the tablet dock
The tablet was just stored for a long time and i got a new charger because i lost the old one, the tablet works fine but the dock stays at 0% no matter what
i flipped the switch inside the dock like once or twice a day over a week but its still at 0%
I have switched the battery from the tablet wich was at 100% to the dock and the tablet got charged like no problem but the dock it still not charging, right now its at around 80% it got discharged a little over some weeks .
The keyboard works with no problem its just not getting charge or charging the tablet when docked but if i connect the charger to the keyboard while docked it charges the tablet
I hope someone can help me
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I recently had a dock that had the same problem. Everything worked fine except that it would not charge a known working battery. Make sure that you have the switch in the correct position. From what I recall, the switch has markings on it that show in one position "0" and the other "1", similar to a power source switch on a desktop computer. You want it in the "1" position.
Also, does the battery indicator light come on when the battery is less than 90% and you are connected to the charger? Are you using a OEM ASUS TF-101 cable and power adapter?
It may be that the dock has a hardware problem in which case the only thing that will fix it is a new board. Not really worth fixing as this is now 4+ years old and there are many devices that can be purchased brand new for the price of fixing the dock which are vastly superior to the TF101.