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I just caught wind of the generosity from Bestbuy in allowing users to return the TF201's under manufacturer defect. So I am contemplating my move.
is the TF700 the way to go? Or is there a better option at the same price point? I definitely dont want iOS so ill be sticking with Android, just not sure which device to push for in exchange, assuming they allow me to switch.
I see some people talking about the Note 10.1, how does that compare to these TF's?
Thanks for helping me
PS if it makes any difference, I would like to eventually Root and play with ROM's
Definitely worth the switch. I had to go to two Best Buys to make it happen (kinda my own fault), but I'm definitely happy that I did. Runs better, feels better. Go for it.
rsarno said:
I just caught wind of the generosity from Bestbuy in allowing users to return the TF201's under manufacturer defect. So I am contemplating my move.
is the TF700 the way to go? Or is there a better option at the same price point? I definitely dont want iOS so ill be sticking with Android, just not sure which device to push for in exchange, assuming they allow me to switch.
I see some people talking about the Note 10.1, how does that compare to these TF's?
Thanks for helping me
PS if it makes any difference, I would like to eventually Root and play with ROM's
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Basically the screen and that's it. And that's enough too to make the switch. I did because I can't stand anything under 200 dpi.
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Screen
WiFi
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Speed
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Speed
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Speed? I thought they were the same machine, just different back.
Sorry I havent done my own research yet, this all caught me by surprise.
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Speed? I thought they were the same machine, just different back.
Sorry I havent done my own research yet, this all caught me by surprise.
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The default clock speed is 1.6Ghz on the Infinity in Performance mode. I will agree that GPS is better, and obviously better screen resolution. However I notice quite a bit of stutter/lag while navigating through menus and switching apps. Hoping Jelly Bean or another OTA update will help.
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The default clock speed is 1.6Ghz on the Infinity in Performance mode. I will agree that GPS is better, and obviously better screen resolution. However I notice quite a bit of stutter/lag while navigating through menus and switching apps. Hoping Jelly Bean or another OTA update will help.
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There is currently a rom (Zeus v3.0) that greatly improves the TF700's performance. You don't have to suffer.
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totally agree with you. glad I went from my TF201 to my TF700T. Not looking back.
+1 for the comment about Screen,GPS, WiFi and Speed. I did mine and have been very happy. As for the stutter and lag, I don't do a lot of gaming on mine, but I have not seen any of those problems.
As for the need to use a custom ROM, with my TF201 I finally put AndroWook on it and said "Oh, this is how this is supposed to perform," I have been running the Stock ROM, rooted with the basic Performance Tweaks (frozen apps in TiBu and some build.prop edits) and do not always feel like I am still handicapped.
Fantastic feedback, thank you everyone
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Basically the screen and that's it. And that's enough too to make the switch. I did because I can't stand anything under 200 dpi.
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Uhh. The WiFi and GPS also work. Some people might find one or both of those useful. LOL.
I was one of the few who were actually happy with my Prime. The wifi worked fine and the GPS didn't bother me since I never used it. The only reason I sold it and got the Infinity was because I could not re-unlock my Prime after RMAing for a broken HDMI port. For me, the only thing better on the Infinity is the screen, and although it is a really nice feature it is not worth it for that alone in my opinion. Overall, my experience with the Infinity has been the same as with the Prime (minus the development, which I hope will pick up soon).
If you are happy with your Prime I would stick with it. If you fancy a change or feel like spending some $$ then the Infinity is a good choice. Like the Prime it is a solid tablet that offers a really nice user experience.
Edit: I forgot to mention the 'speed' issue. In every day use the Infinity and Prime are equally as speedy as one another in my opinion. I would say that the Infinity's superior processing power is sucked up by keeping all of those extra pixels going...
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If you are happy with your Prime I would stick with it. If you fancy a change or feel like spending some $$ then the Infinity is a good choice. Like the Prime it is a solid tablet that offers a really nice user experience.
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Actually, my last post was just a little sarcastic, I had a similar experience with the Prime (liked it, did not call for ASUS' head, etc). The Prime is a pretty awesome tablet and the Infinity is really just an evolutionary upgrade, when you can secure working unit with decent WiFi the Prime is still pretty cutting edge. And some of the custom ROMs make the 201 very sweet, indeed.
But that said, my GPS was DOA and the WiFi was merely "acceptable" (but not near the Infinity which I would class as being actually good).
Since like me, the OP is basically looking @ a $0 upgrade via a return, in my experience, the "upgrade" was well worth the five minutes of effort and had no real downside ESPECIALLY if you like the Prime, IMHO!
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Actually, my last post was just a little sarcastic, I had a similar experience with the Prime (liked it, did not call for ASUS' head, etc). The Prime is a pretty awesome tablet and the Infinity is really just an evolutionary upgrade, when you can secure working unit with decent WiFi the Prime is still pretty cutting edge. And some of the custom ROMs make the 201 very sweet, indeed.
But that said, my GPS was DOA and the WiFi was merely "acceptable" (but not near the Infinity which I would class as being actually good).
Since like me, the OP is basically looking @ a $0 upgrade via a return, in my experience, the "upgrade" was well worth the five minutes of effort and had no real downside ESPECIALLY if you like the Prime, IMHO!
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Got it lol. I would do the same if it cost me nothing . My infinity cost me about $150 after selling my prime on CL. Bought my infinity at Bestbuy - lesson learnt
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Made the switch today, came home and rooted+unlocked. Now im seeing all these issues and hoping my tablet is good! LOL
One change i noticed was the MicroSD card no longer protrudes from the device!!! Everyone who picked up my device immediately would push on my memory chip thinking it was a power button.
On the TF700 it is perfectly flush with the device, sweet!!
Bad news for me, i rooted specifically to run GameCIH to manipulate games. Now im rooted and see GameCIH is not even supported by this tablet. Fan-fvckin-tastic! LOL
otherwise very happy so far.
I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I kept the tf201. It was a dud from day 1 and Asus knew it.
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I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I kept the tf201. It was a dud from day 1 and Asus knew it.
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My Prime was actually great! Ran like a champ. Only reason for the switch was the FHD. A lot more people then you think had a satisfying experience with the Prime.
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Amazon Refunded My Prime
I just spoke with Amazon this morning and they've agreed (without any hassle) to refund the money I paid for my TFP. I bought it in December 2011 and received it in late January. I worked pretty well but lately I was having a lot of issues with dropped wi-fi connections.
Anyway, I've decided to pick up the TF700T and use my Prime keyboard with it. My question is: Can you use the GPS dongle that Asus sent the Prime users on the TF700T. If so, is there any difference in the GPS sensitivity?
Thanks,
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Can you use the GPS dongle that Asus sent the Prime users on the TF700T. If so, is there any difference in the GPS sensitivity?
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I dunno maybe... But the infinity's GPS is pretty good all by itself, picked up satellites pretty fast even indoors (first floor of a second story house with metal roof and 4 feet from the window.
Hi
As much as I like my tf300 I am tempted to sell it because;
1. Guaranteed quick android updates
2. Higher Res screen more so than ipad 3 and tf700
3. Limited use of dock besides charging, stand and USB data transfer
I bought the tf300 because even in the UK where its £400 with dock. It was great value but 4 months on there is a lot of new products coming out very soon.
Anyone else tempted to sell or are their good reasons to keep it...what do you think?
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I think that I will buy this Nexus 10 aka "Manta" ( built by Samsung), but I'm still waiting to see all of their specs for taking my decision.
Ok it's confirmed:
Google reportedly set to announce 10-inch high-res Samsung Nexus tablet with Android 4.2
Yeah i agree about waiting for the confirmed specs aswell as price. Also waiting to see the new ipad mini.
Guess i'll know by the end of the week whether to stick or split so to speak.
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I think that I will buy this Nexus 10 aka "Manta" ( built by Samsung), but I'm still waiting to see all of their specs for taking my decision.
Ok it's confirmed:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/213533548/google-samsung-nexus-10-android-4-2-rumor
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Old link, I changed
You should check out all the problems the Nexus 7 is having with screen lifts. Meaning, the actual screen comes out of the encasing and people are having to glue it back in. Remember, you always get what you pay for. Except with the TF300, that was quite a deal. And since it only came out in April and since that time we've been given an unlocked bootloader and Jelly Bean.
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You should check out all the problems the Nexus 7 is having with screen lifts. Meaning, the actual screen comes out of the encasing and people are having to glue it back in. Remember, you always get what you pay for. Except with the TF300, that was quite a deal. And since it only came out in April and since that time we've been given an unlocked bootloader and Jelly Bean.
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The manufacturer is different this time is manufactured by Samsung, anyways it is always good to wait a couple of weeks on new devices see how they stack up in real use.
NeverMind84 said:
Hi
As much as I like my tf300 I am tempted to sell it because;
1. Guaranteed quick android updates
2. Higher Res screen more so than ipad 3 and tf700
3. Limited use of dock besides charging, stand and USB data transfer
I bought the tf300 because even in the UK where its £400 with dock. It was great value but 4 months on there is a lot of new products coming out very soon.
Anyone else tempted to sell or are their good reasons to keep it...what do you think?
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What do you plan on doing with your Asus? I might do the same but not really sure where i could sell this tablet for a decent price besides ebay since it's not very a very big product here in the UK.
On topic though, buying a nexus 10 would mean no tegra games (some are great IMHO) and the high screen resolution may be more taxing on the process i think. At least it wouldn't have I/O issues (probably) and would likely be quite fast. Time will tell i guess.
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UndisputedGuy said:
What do you plan on doing with your Asus? I might do the same but not really sure where i could sell this tablet for a decent price besides ebay since it's not very a very big product here in the UK.
On topic though, buying a nexus 10 would mean no tegra games (some are great IMHO) and the high screen resolution may be more taxing on the process i think. At least it wouldn't have I/O issues (probably) and would likely be quite fast. Time will tell i guess.
I was thinking about selling it on ebay also but I really dont want to let it go for less than 300gbp. Especially with all the fees ebay charge 10% + 10% paypal. So I am hoping to sell it on gumtree.
Tegra games are pretty awesome admittedly but the benefits of being nexus kinda outweight the little graphical advantages.
The i/o issue is dissapointing although it is better on some of the custom roms we really shouldnt have this problem.
Im assuming the processor will be pretty beefy hopefully to cope with the screen res but like you say time will tell. The deciding factor for me will probbly be price on the 'manta'. If it is around 400gbp for a 32GB version I will probably get it. Any more and it is unlikely.
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The best solution would be to have both :victory:
I just bought this tablet and would sell it in a heat beat for a 10" Nexus tablet. It must be 32GB minimum I don't understand why all the Nexus branded devices are 16GB ONLY. I played with the N7 and really like it and i mean really like it and at the price point it was sweet. Three reasons why i went with the TF300 was because i got it for the same price as a Nexus 7, 10" screen and 32GB + Micro SD.
The reason why there isn't huge sale on the Nexus brand is do to storage limitations in my opinion, I would have bought the Galaxy Nexus rather then an hTC if it had 32GB or 16GB + Micro SD.
16GB non expandable memory is just unacceptable, they should do what apple does and charge a little more for more memory.
back on topic if the TF300 did not have I/O issues it would have been the perfect tablet, I can't believe Asus can get away with this BS and still sell in stores without fixing. Its understandable that the first gen TF300 had this issue but this should have been addressed a long time ago./
You were lucky to get the tf300 at nexus 7 price! I got 10% of retail price so paid £360.
Would love to be able to own the manta and tf300 but i cant justify two tablets when i also own a galaxy note!
Thanks for your opinions people i think im set on the new nexus 10 depending on price.
Time to restore my tf300 to stock jelly bean!
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ABSOLUTELY.
I'm tired of dealing with this heap of junk and Asus' worthless support.
Nexus 10 - no dock, so I will stay on TF300T
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A couple specs http://briefmobile.com/nexus-10-design-revealed-in-leaked-manual
Didn't go for the nexus 7 because of no expandable memory and no hdmi support.
I can live with out the dock... kinda screwed myself updating to jelly bean and losing the option of aosp roms... or kinda got screwed by Asus.... posted an ad on kijiji today
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After seeing the leaked images of the nexus 10 Ive changed my mind that is one ugly looking tablet!
http://briefmobile.com/google-nexus-10-samsung-android-4-2
I will wait to see & use some win 8 products or just stay put till next year.
Bit underwhelmed with the nexus 10. How's the galaxy note 10.1? Better hardware than the nexus 10 and has some great features.
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The best of TF300T is the dock: extra battery and keyboard !!
The gap between the new Nexus 10" and the old TF300T is great in hardware speed, but... really we really need it ?
I dont´t think so, if the TF300T have a nice CM10 rom with the lastest kernel...could be enough for me.
Not me.
My next tablet/notebook hybrid will likely be a Windows 8 machine. Whether RT or Pro I don't yet know. Whether the new ASUS tablet or one of the Samsung ones, I don't yet know either.
The TF300 showed me just how awesome this form factor could be. I love it. But the truth is I use it in fundametally different ways from the way I use my 7" HTC Flyer tablet. And the ways I use it it just makes more sense to buy a Windows device.
Now, my next phone will be an Android phone and my next 7" tablet likely a Nexus 7. So I won't be abanding Android at all. I'll just be using what I see as the right tool for the job.
Is there any windows tablet with keyboard for about £400? They all seem quite pricey. Also, the review i read for the surface wasn't very positive.
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I'll try to keep it brief:
1. I'm a little annoyed that ASUS makes you sign off your warranty to unlock, everyone is annoyed by this I'm sure but you deal with it or you don't. The flip side of this coin is that a product like this shouldn't have to be sent in for warranty work if you don't brick it. I've never had to send in any handsets I've owned because of original equipment malfunctions. You can't guarantee that you'll get a perfect device if you buy it but I would think as long as you take care of it, it'll be fine, right?
2. Speed of the tablet. If you wanted to play it safe and keep the bootloader locked until the warranty expired, I've read that the tablet is sluggish. If I buy the tablet on Amazon I can unlock it, load a custom ROM on it, and decide within 30 days whether or not I want the warranty back. Is it worth giving up the warranty for the extra speed or is the sluggishness of the tablet overexaggerated? Can the tablet run Chrome well with the stock ASUS rom?
What do you guys think? Thanks!
The biggest concern i had with this tablet is QA. I went through 5 tablets until i found one i was happy with and there are many others in the same boat. What you DONT hear is from the people who got one they were happy the first time, either because they dont exist or because they dont complain.
Asus has shown that they will update this thing regularly, we keep getting updates and even the original transformer is still getting updates. that shows that in a year from now i will likely have updates to whatever version of android is available. Other top end tablets (like samsung) as much as i hate to say it dont update as often or as quickly.
I'd say get yourself a tablet if its something you will use. Use the hell out of it for the return period and make sure everything is working. If its not, return it and get another one. And after your 14 days or 30 days or whatever your retailer is if you personally dont like how some aspects of the tablet can be slower than expected return it. For me, its not an issue. Everyone is different.
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I have a completely stock tablet and it is not sluggish at all - I find many of the issues mentioned here are exaggerated! I played around with a Note 10.1 in a store and found no difference in the speed but I did notice the quality of the screen was not as sharp as the Infinity. If you have a 15-30 day return policy why not order one and if it's not what you expect then return?
Hello,
I am stock and unrooted and I like my infinity now (and I love the dock). I was a little disappinted at first (I bought it in july) because I find it too slow for the price it was, however this is my first tablet and I don't know how are other tablet. But now for my everyday use it is fine. I was really tempted to unlock and flash cleanrom but I don't want to loose my warranty. If I had known about square trade waranty at the time of purchase I would have got one, but it is too late now. My advice is the same as the previous, if you really want an infinity, buy it when you can easily return it after x days and return it if you are not satisfied. If you like it and want to unlock and keep a warranty, if you live in the US you can buy a square trade warranty and they enjoy your unlocked tablet.
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Hey , it's a great tablet trust me ..it's light, fast , and you can do so much with it. Soon it will get even better because the nexus 10 is coming out with that ridiculous resolution so deva will start making apps that support high resolution tablets. This tablet is awesome you can buy 32gb one and not worry about space because it has expandable memory.
Dude I unlocked mine , flashes clean ROM and used pimp my ROM ...this thing runs smooth as butter .
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Running it stock. Do not find it to be sluggish at all.
Dajinn said:
I'll try to keep it brief:
1. I'm a little annoyed that ASUS makes you sign off your warranty to unlock, everyone is annoyed by this I'm sure but you deal with it or you don't. The flip side of this coin is that a product like this shouldn't have to be sent in for warranty work if you don't brick it. I've never had to send in any handsets I've owned because of original equipment malfunctions. You can't guarantee that you'll get a perfect device if you buy it but I would think as long as you take care of it, it'll be fine, right?
2. Speed of the tablet. If you wanted to play it safe and keep the bootloader locked until the warranty expired, I've read that the tablet is sluggish. If I buy the tablet on Amazon I can unlock it, load a custom ROM on it, and decide within 30 days whether or not I want the warranty back. Is it worth giving up the warranty for the extra speed or is the sluggishness of the tablet overexaggerated? Can the tablet run Chrome well with the stock ASUS rom?
What do you guys think? Thanks!
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dont buy this tablet, you will regret it. It is sluggish. Very sluggish. It is so annoying that I am returning it monday. This is by far the worst Android device I have ever bought.
And btw, I also have the TF300 + dock and I love it.
Just do like anyone with a brain and order a Nexus 10 tuesday.
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What you DONT hear is from the people who got one they were happy the first time, either because they dont exist or because they dont complain.
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Oh we exist. We just have better things to do than post in every single bloody thread where people complain. I've got about 30 post saying mine's fine from the second i bought it, weeks before the release, without unlocking.
People only speak up when they have something tocomplain about. there were thousands of sales for this tablet. Tell me, did you see all of them post here with cmplaints?
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I'm running stock, just installed the new update today. It is running REALLY smooth and fast!
Chrome works great for me.
Bagbug said:
dont buy this tablet, you will regret it. It is sluggish. Very sluggish. It is so annoying that I am returning it monday. This is by far the worst Android device I have ever bought.
And btw, I also have the TF300 + dock and I love it.
Just do like anyone with a brain and order a Nexus 10 tuesday.
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Sorry your experience has been so negative. I've had and currently have a number of Android devices and I love the TF700 Infinity, especially unlocked, CleanROMmed, and Clemsyn Kerneled!
I got one of the Square Trade warranties and it was very affordable for two years with accidental damage coverage. I have peace of mind that if I every screw-up so badly that it's bricked, I'll have my coverage without worrying about ASUS. Oh, and by the way, my unit and dock have both been perfect from day one...beginning of August.
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dont buy this tablet, you will regret it. It is sluggish. Very sluggish. It is so annoying that I am returning it monday. This is by far the worst Android device I have ever bought.
And btw, I also have the TF300 + dock and I love it.
Just do like anyone with a brain and order a Nexus 10 tuesday.
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My feelings exactly. This tablet is very very slow. I regret buying it and I'll get rid of it at the earliest convenience.
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My feelings exactly. This tablet is very very slow. I regret buying it and I'll get rid of it at the earliest convenience.
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Dang! For a development forum there's a lot of people who aren't interested in modding, even if it's proved to increase performance exponentially.
It's your device and you can live your life as you please, but the OP has a point...that the complainers (justified or not) seem to be louder and more insistant than the fun-loving, happy go lucky crackflashers like me! I hate the fact that people who would really fall in love with this tab (especially with its keyboard dock, expandability, long battery life, etc...) may not even try it out.
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Dang! For a development forum there's a lot of people who aren't interested in modding, even if it's proved to increase performance exponentially.
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Eggzactly!
My insignificant\meaningless thoughts are:
For folks wanting to dive into the Android tablet quagmire who might expect things to be pristine right of the box...stay away!
For gadget gurus, tweak monsters, modification masters, code writers, app developers, people who trust Asus or guys that want a device to learn on...go ahead!
For me my experience with this device has been everywhere from "Wowee cool" to "Awww...This piece of poopoo" and back to "Mmmm Yeah Baby I love you now"
Boils down to patience along with perseverance.
I'm a firm believer that Android is heaven for those who enjoy adjusting rather than using.
It's kind of like a hotrod shiny on the surface...always needing more under the hood.
I'm very satisfied with my tf700. Sluggish? Nope. Well, I'm on cm10 and development on this Rom by the cm10 has been very excellent.
I don't think there is enough of the satisfied folks who express their happiness. I'm one of them so I felt the need to break that. Excellent product asus.
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Eggzactly!
My insignificant\meaningless thoughts are:
For folks wanting to dive into the Android tablet quagmire who might expect things to be pristine right of the box...stay away!
For gadget gurus, tweak monsters, modification masters, code writers, app developers, people who trust Asus or guys that want a device to learn on...go ahead!
For me my experience with this device has been everywhere from "Wowee cool" to "Awww...This piece of poopoo" and back to "Mmmm Yeah Baby I love you now"
Boils down to patience along with perseverance.
I'm a firm believer that Android is heaven for those who enjoy adjusting rather than using.
It's kind of like a hotrod shiny on the surface...always needing more under the hood.
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This ^^. Tinkering is half the fun. No, almost all of it.
I'm stock also, but rooted. I've never had any issues with my TF700T. It runs great. No FC and fast.
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Oh we exist. We just have better things to do than post in every single bloody thread where people complain. I've got about 30 post saying mine's fine from the second i bought it, weeks before the release, without unlocking.
People only speak up when they have something tocomplain about. there were thousands of sales for this tablet. Tell me, did you see all of them post here with cmplaints?
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I, too, didn't have any problem with my first tablet. I absolutely LOVE it now after installing CleanROM & Data2SD. I even bought mine on Ebay and got it for a great price.
I've enjoyed my tablet very much. Never noticed any sluggishness. I've also been very happy with the update frequency from Asus. No complaints here
I recommend picking up SwiftKey tablet edition from the play store. Makes landscape typing really easy.
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Dang! For a development forum there's a lot of people who aren't interested in modding, even if it's proved to increase performance exponentially.
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We are all interested in modding. The point is, no amount of modding makes a difference.
Try this. Get yourself a three year old iPad 1. Put it near your transformer with CleanRom or CM10 or whatever. Start an app on both devices and see which one has smoother animations. Then open a slightly big webpage. Scroll around and pinch to zoom in and out a few times and tell me which one is smoother.
This tablet is running on hardware that is not suited to the resolution that it's running and it has very very slow flash storage which makes almost all operations sluggish. No amount of software modding makes a difference with hardware flaws. They can improve benchmarks, but not the user experience.
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No amount of software modding makes a difference with hardware flaws. They can improve benchmarks, but not the user experience.
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I have a contrary opinion: software tweaks have failed to improve benchmarks significantly across the board, but they did improve my user experience significantly.
Hey guys, for Christmas this year I was planning to get my mother a low cost "premium" 10inch Android tablet. She has previously been using a Viewsonic G-Tablet, mostly to just peruse shopping websites. She has been pretty great at navigating it, but the crappy screen, heavy weight, and just plain SSSLLLOOOOOWWWness have me wanting to get her a more name brand and reliable piece of hardware.
So that brings me here. I have been eyeing the TF300 for a while and Best Buy having it on a Black Friday sale is making me close to pulling the trigger. However, just looking over some threads here i'm seeing a few people cursing this tablet to death. So I want to check in with you guys, is this a reliable, low cost, quality option?
Don't forget, all I really need this thing for is solid web browsing, responsiveness, Google+ Hangouts, ease of use, and email.
Looking forward to everyone's input.
Yeah man get it..its been great so far no issues at all..google top 10, 10 inch tablets,its in the top 3 most of the time..(this is simply my opinion from my experience)
Ha, I'll probably get flamed for saying this but... get her an ipad. I love my TF but it's only because I've been rooted and unlocked since day one and have spent a bunch of time trying out new ROMs. Oh, and I run the stock browser with the 'ipad user-agent' because it just works better because people actually care about making sites ipad-friendly.
It seems like not everyone has the same experience with these, so it's hit-or-miss as to which you'll get. If it was me, and my wife wanted a new tablet and I didn't want to have to mess with it every time she complains of issues, I'd go with the ipad.
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Get the nexus 10! Can't go wrong with it!
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Well for non-techie I would recommend the ipad, it's extremely simple and you won't need to worry about some android stuff
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I'd say only go for it if the keyboard is a major selling point for her. If she can live without the keyboard dock, I'd get her the nexus 10.
I would go for it. Why not?! For what you're mom is going to be using it for is great. She's not going to be entering the Dead Trigger video game playoffs, and she's certainly not going to breach national security with it by hacking into the main frame of the NSA. (She's not going to, right?)
I know if I were to get this as a gift, I'd be saying COOL! Plus I'd be thankful that it wasn't an iPad2. Mom will love ya for it!!
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Nexus 10 or note 10.1. The transformer has I/O issues.
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I think that you have 2 solutions:
The first:
You bought an IPAD 1 or 2, cause it's simply efficient for someone who don't need the same need as us.
And the IPAD is 3G & Wifi.
Second:
You buy a TF300, you will unlock (or not), root for her.
I don't know if in US there is a big difference in price between the TF300 and TF700.
I wouldn't get it. its freakin slow unless its rooted with a custom rom. then it rocks!
Great responses guys. iPad wise, personal bias aside, she's not a fan of the aspect ratio. Not to mention it is killer to pay that "Apple tax" when I know I can go Android (she is also familiar with Android, currently using a Samsung Vibrant as a phone and like I said the Viewsonic) and get a better product for cheaper.
Now the Nexus 10 crossed my mind on announcement, but I think the price makes it slightly TOO premium for my wallet. $350 minimum plus tax and shipping for the Nexus vs $280+Tax and out the door for the Transformer on Black Friday. I'm currently using the Nexus 7 to write this, but she isn't a fan of the smaller form factor.
I'm curious about the poor I/O performance I've seen around here, how exactly is that manifesting in day to day use? Don't forget, she's coming from a Viewsonic G Tablet running a custom Froyo rom (JB too unstable). Surely we're looking at a huge speed increase, even with bad i/o performance? Just website browsing on Dolphin should be speedy right?
If you don't root or anything, stock browser doesn't perform too well. It hangs. Using other browsers helps but I only use chrome really and that's not even that good. Certainly worse than the nexus 7. The I/O issues do get annoying and there is lag in some places. Have you looked at the Note 10.1?
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Great responses guys. iPad wise, personal bias aside, she's not a fan of the aspect ratio. Not to mention it is killer to pay that "Apple tax" when I know I can go Android (she is also familiar with Android, currently using a Samsung Vibrant as a phone and like I said the Viewsonic) and get a better product for cheaper.
Now the Nexus 10 crossed my mind on announcement, but I think the price makes it slightly TOO premium for my wallet. $350 minimum plus tax and shipping for the Nexus vs $280+Tax and out the door for the Transformer on Black Friday. I'm currently using the Nexus 7 to write this, but she isn't a fan of the smaller form factor.
I'm curious about the poor I/O performance I've seen around here, how exactly is that manifesting in day to day use? Don't forget, she's coming from a Viewsonic G Tablet running a custom Froyo rom (JB too unstable). Surely we're looking at a huge speed increase, even with bad i/o performance? Just website browsing on Dolphin should be speedy right?
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I/o is terrible and affects normal web browsing. if you flash a custom its fixed but on stock it blows. I love mine rooted and custom.
if you flash cm10 stable + custom kernel its freakin fast... otherwise not so much,...
I have a stock tf300 and have no problems browsing using Dolphin. Dolphin is quick enough for me and it never crashes, even with lots of tabs open. Your mother will love it compared with what she has got now.
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I have a stock tf300 and have no problems browsing using Dolphin. Dolphin is quick enough for me and it never crashes, even with lots of tabs open. Your mother will love it compared with what she has got now.
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disagree about stock... my mother and wife has one and stock it frustrated BOTH of them. Flashed CM10 AND UT's kernel and they love it now.
I am awaiting the arrival of a brand new ASUS Transformer TF700.I have read almost 90% of the issues,pros and cons with this tablet.This has thrown me for a loop and as an IT student I don't think one should have to be on a constant lookout for such an expensive item.Fortunately for me the tablet comes with a 14day return for money .I am not even going to open it,I am thinking of replacing it with the NEXUS 10. I am really afraid of taking a chance with such a tablet that can go defective at any time.There is no telling just how good the NEXUS 10 is,but from initial reports its better than gambling on the Infinity.What are your views on this ? Is the Infinity worth the stress ?
If you don't want the Infinity than get the Nexus. They are two different products for different purposes and use cases.
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It is all a matter of personal preference.
I owned the Infinity for 3 months before selling it. During that time, I exchanged it twice thinking I kept getting a defective tablet, because each one was slow, sluggish and had the occasional screen flicker. Not to mention the bad I/O. Another thing that bothered me is, most of the apps I used, and games I played, even YouTube, looked really washed out. I kept it until the JB update to see if it would make the tablet any better, but it didn't(to me anyway it felt more sluggish after). From day one of owning the tablet, I tried pretty hard to convince myself that I like the tablet, but after a while I gave up, and decided to sell it.
I bought the Nexus 10 when it launched, and from the moment I got it, I loved it. It's smooth, it's fast, the screen is awesome, and it feels real comfortable to hold. The front facing stereo speakers are also pretty cool, they sound great, and they can get pretty loud. All the apps that I used on the Infinity look way better on the Nexus 10.
This is just my personal opinion and preference though. It all depends on what you are going to use it for, and what you prefer.
I have owned the tf700 for about a month.
This is a fact. The read/write speed to the internal flash is really slow. To overcome this problem you will need to unlock and install a custom ROM/APKs. This will void your warranty.
It's not that the tf700 is unusable with slow flash IO, instead it makes the user experience so very aggravating.
I am going to get the ASUS TF700T for the holidays. In 8 days to be more precise. I can't wait. I am a big techie and want flash some custom stuff to it.
Also waiting for Nexus 10 to come to my country and most probably its bye bye to my infinity then.
User experience just isnt what it should be. I also have ipad and even if I hate itunes and iOS I must say that the performance is so much better. And I am talking about the very first ipad.
You could think that there is something very badly wrong with Android but I also own Samsung Note 2 and there the performance is perfect. Also what i have tried some Samsung tablets they are smooth also. I just dont want lo-res screen on tablet so will try Nexus 10
The nexus 10 has pretty much the same issues. But everyone's so busy drooling over it they forget to read the Nexus 10 forum and see that there's hardly any improvement.
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The nexus 10 has pretty much the same issues. But everyone's so busy drooling over it they forget to read the Nexus 10 forum and see that there's hardly any improvement.
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I just got a nexus 10 and a week old tf700 and the user experience on the n10 is far better than the tf700. Everything just works and hardly any lag. I'm not sure how an unlocked tf700 compares though. Where the n10 fails for me is the lower contrast level of the n10. Black arent as black either. And the lack of kb with extended battery. I'm not sure which to keep.
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Thanks ..I like the expandability of the Asus Infinity,and as you rightly said its preference.I will have to do without the Infinity,and hope the Nexus 10 can deliver over the future problems it just might have.After all the Nexus10 has flaws as well
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I am going to get the ASUS TF700T for the holidays. In 8 days to be more precise. I can't wait. I am a big techie and want flash some custom stuff to it.
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I wish you good luck with it,just find its too expensive for me to risk bricking it.I' ll let you know my experience with the Nexus 10
I appreciate that so much as I 'm going to get the NEXUS 10 16gig as its all I can afford.Just worried about the lack of expandability,and no card slot.Guess I'll make do with it somehow.I love games movies and music...16gigs is nothing close to that enjoyment.
Tf700 lags,lags,restarts, since made jump from ics to jb. Good luck....
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Tf700 lags,lags,restarts, since made jump from ics to jb. Good luck....
I thought it was just me that thought the tf700 was not all it's advertised to be. Whatever browser I use seems slower than it should be and seems to force close too often.The biggest irritation is that I can't keep the email working. I have MS Outlook on my PC and used that to put email on my Razr Maxx and rooted Nook tablet and they work fine. On tf700 it either doesnt work at all or works a day or 2 then all emails disappear. Sometimes it will load a few msg then as soon as I read one all the rest disappear. I have uninsalled, reinstalled several times and even tried to install it using K-9 mail. Nothing works. Is mine a lemon or an I just doing something dumb? I just know enough to be dangerous!
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I got the tf700t yesterday i see what lag urtlking about but honestly it rlly does seem better unlocked with custom rom w/out not very good.... i didnt get any sods or RRs yet everything seems fine the batteey life is better than expected im not sure how the n10 is but the 700 isnt bad, the keyboard is pricey seems..... JUST MY EARLY OPINION
Btw edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33431910. I heard this works very well
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I got the tf700t yesterday i see what lag urtlking about but honestly it rlly does seem better unlocked with custom rom w/out not very good.... i didnt get any sods or RRs yet everything seems fine the batteey life is better than expected im not sure how the n10 is but the 700 isnt bad, the keyboard is pricey seems..... JUST MY EARLY OPINION
Btw edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33431910. I heard this works very well
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I assumed you unlocked yours? I haven't seen any complaint yet with an unlocked 700 so it must be the best solution for the lag.
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The alarm clock doesn't even work.. gl trying to get up for work in the morning
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The alarm clock doesn't even work.. gl trying to get up for work in the morning
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So get an app for it. Or buy a proper alarm clock.... It's still tech, faults happen...
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I assumed you unlocked yours? I haven't seen any complaint yet with an unlocked 700 so it must be the best solution for the lag.
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Honestly I don't know why I bother to respond to a thread like this, but the TF700 Infinity is the best tablet available, bar none, once you have unlocked and flashed a custom ROM/kernel. The best one for performance, smoothness, speed and stability is without doubt CleanROM Inheritance v2.7 with Clemsyn's oc kernel (gpu oc to 700). With a few additional tweaks available during ROM installation, nothing out now comes close to the Infinity. It's worth jettisoning ASUS warranty to unlock the goodness.
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Honestly I don't know why I bother to respond to a thread like this, but the TF700 Infinity is the best tablet available, bar none, once you have unlocked and flashed a custom ROM/kernel. The best one for performance, smoothness, speed and stability is without doubt CleanROM Inheritance v2.7 with Clemsyn's oc kernel (gpu oc to 700). With a few additional tweaks available during ROM installation, nothing out now comes close to the Infinity. It's worth jettisoning ASUS warranty to unlock the goodness.
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Any info helps man and thank you. I'm stuck between my n10 and tf700 right now so I'm really concerned that unlocking wont make it on par with the N10. Dull screen and no kb dock is the only thing steering me away from the n10 but performance is awesome. But I might have a hard time reselling an unlocked tf700 or I'll probably have to take a major los$. Christmas time rolling around so I have to support my hobby and xmas $hopping the best I can =)
An unlocked infinity is by far the best thing you can find. The community has offered a lot to this machine that Asus just couldn't. Laggy Internet are you kidding..? With browser2ram outperforms my pc. 870 on browsermark bench. Yes the io issue is there its poor hardware but we have come a long way since stock now you can't even notice it. This think now flyes. Plus dock plus amazing screen that you can actually see outdoors. N10 or ipad come out in the sun and play.. No way..
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