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I've just emailed the folks at Rubicon development complaining that their Great Little War Game (which is a great game btw) is laggy on my ASUS EEE Pad Transformer which is powered by the Tegra 2 SOC when you set the detail to high or ultra. Setting it to medium plays the game smoothly. Some folk posted a review of the game in the Android market praising the game runs smoothly even on his Incredible S which runs on the Adreno 205 GPU. Running the game on high / ultra adds in an excellent water effect which causes the game to slowdown on the Transformer.
I highlighted this to the Rubicon developers and one of them said that while the Tegra 2 CPU is powerful, the GPU isn't as powerful as the Adreno 205 GPU on the Incredible S. I seriously find that really really hard to believe because the benchmark figures here shows that Tegra 2 even beats the PowerVR GPU in Nexus S which is more powerful than the Adreno 205:
http://androidandme.com/2011/03/news/tegra-2-benchmarks-motorola-atrix-4g-vs-lg-optimus-2x/
So I emailed them to see if they can actually optimize it for Tegra 2 because as I understand it, you have to optimize your game for Tegra 2 chipsets in order to make full use of the GPU much like in games such as RipTide GP which has excellent graphics and I dont believe the Adreno 205 could render the water effect that brilliantly.
Could someone shed some light on this?
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Here's what the developers of "Great little war game" have to say about tegra 2 tablets:
We've done just that with v1.0.4 - have a play in the new settings screen.
We've kind done all we can do now tbh, of the 4 different GPU's in Android phones, Tegra 2 comes bottom and its in most of the devices with the biggest screens.
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Can you believe that? Sounds to me they are getting lazy rather than trying to optimize it for Tegra 2 because right now, they have two modes in the game with the new update - a fast graphics and a best graphics mode. Fast graphics mode appears to set the game resolution at a horrible 640x480 to speed things up but makes things very very ugly with heavy pixelation on tablets. while best graphics uses the native resolution, everything is sharp but slows down on certain larger levels of the game.
I suggested to them to change this to 800x600 when toggling to fast graphics which i believe will reduce the pixelation effect while still maintaining a decent graphics for the player. What do you guys think?
Nexus S should be right about the same hardware as the Galaxy Tab, and I do run RipTide GP at full quality equally smooth on that thing. Tegra 2 is a kinda all around lame chipset, but you really notice the single core when a mail comes in, and the TF keeps you splashing around while the Galaxy stutters badly for a moment... Also no choice on the chipset at the moment if you want a tablet.
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AlexTheStampede said:
Nexus S should be right about the same hardware as the Galaxy Tab, and I do run RipTide GP at full quality equally smooth on that thing. Tegra 2 is a kinda all around lame chipset, but you really notice the single core when a mail comes in, and the TF keeps you splashing around while the Galaxy stutters badly for a moment... Also no choice on the chipset at the moment if you want a tablet.
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Nexus S is powered by the PowerVR GPU - its not the same as the Galaxy Tab at all (i'm referring to the Galaxy Tab 10.1).
And I'm talking about the one they sold one year ago, the 7" Froyo little monster using the same Hummingbird coupled with an SGX 540 that the Nexus S has
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AlexTheStampede said:
And I'm talking about the one they sold one year ago, the 7" Froyo little monster using the same Hummingbird coupled with an SGX 540 that the Nexus S has
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how did you manage to run RipTide GP which is a Tegra only game? I suppose you used something like chainfire 3d? ( I havent tried it tho)
Exactly, Chainfire 3D and the Tegra plugin. No settings changed it just works, exactly like the pinball game. I didn't try any other game.
It requires a lot more power to render a game at 1280x720 than 800x480. As for which SoC is more powerful, I think benchmarks prove that Tegra 2 > Snapdragon S2.
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Exactly, Chainfire 3D and the Tegra plugin. No settings changed it just works, exactly like the pinball game. I didn't try any other game.
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I see. cool. but it still doesnt make sense why Rubicon mentioned that the Adreno 205 is more powerful than the Tegra 2.
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It requires a lot more power to render a game at 1280x720 than 800x480.
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this part i totally agree in terms of resolution but to say the Adreno 205 GPU is more powerful than the Tegra 2 GPU is wrong in every sense. Just because a game plays well in 800x480 doesnt make that GPU more powerful than the Tegra 2 GPU which plays game on 1280x800 in tablets. If it were the same resolution in the incredible S i'm pretty sure the game would be just as sluggish or worse.
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Could someone shed some light on this?
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Assuming the game runs at the Transformer's native resolution, the ULP GeForce would be required to push nearly three times as many pixels as the Adreno 205 in the Incredible S. Consider then that the ULP GeForce is maybe 50% faster in best-case scenarios.
As for Tegra optimizations, all that really is is a proprietary texture format that only Tegra chips can use. It provides a few benefits.. that can already be implemented in OpenGL ES 2.X anyway.
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Man it obviously took me a long time to type that.. got ninja'd three times over..
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I see. cool. but it still doesnt make sense why Rubicon mentioned that the Adreno 205 is more powerful than the Tegra 2.
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Just because they are developers, doesn't mean they aren't ignorant of certain hardware.
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Assuming the game runs at the Transformer's native resolution, the ULP GeForce would be required to push nearly three times as many pixels as the Adreno 205 in the Incredible S. Consider then that the ULP GeForce is maybe 50% faster in best-case scenarios.
As for Tegra optimizations, all that really is is a proprietary texture format that only Tegra chips can use. It provides a few benefits.. that can already be implemented in OpenGL ES 2.X anyway.
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Man it obviously took me a long time to type that.. got ninja'd three times over..
Just because they are developers, doesn't mean they aren't ignorant of certain hardware.
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Your explanation makes a lot of sense and yep doesn't mean they are developers, they're always right. Its possible they've made a mistake there and just make some assumptions on their own instead of basing off facts.
To begin with, the "Tegra Zone" means quality exactly like say, Amazon AppStore. Example? Galaxy on Fire 2 runs smooth-ish (I'd say 20fps or so) on an iPhone 3G. Not a 3GS. The mighty 600mhz (is it still underclocked to 400?) money printer Apple sold in 2008 with 128mb of ram. But hey, I'm sure the resolution of the screen is low enough to counterbalance the amazing graphics possible only thanks to Nvidia!
Anyway the Galaxy Tab runs at 1024x600 that is closer to the 1280x720 of the TF (the lower bar is 80 pixels, and there isn't any game using those obviously).
Here's what the developers of "Great little war game" have to say about tegra 2 tablets:
We've done just that with v1.0.4 - have a play in the new settings screen.
We've kind done all we can do now tbh, of the 4 different GPU's in Android phones, Tegra 2 comes bottom and its in most of the devices with the biggest screens.
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Can you believe that? Sounds to me they are getting lazy rather than trying to optimize it for Tegra 2 because right now, they have two modes in the game with the new update - a fast graphics and a best graphics mode. Fast graphics mode appears to set the game resolution at a horrible 640x480 to speed things up but makes things very very ugly with heavy pixelation on tablets. while best graphics uses the native resolution, everything is sharp but slows down on certain larger levels of the game.
I suggested to them to change this to 800x600 when toggling to fast graphics which i believe will reduce the pixelation effect while still maintaining a decent graphics for the player. What do you guys think?
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Just because they are developers, doesn't mean they aren't ignorant of certain hardware.
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I gotta bump that one up. I'm in a development shop and the majority of the developers wouldn't know what CPU they had if there wasn't a sticker on their laptop.
Understanding software and hardware is a completely different skill set.
Well, could just be gpu optimization. Adreno uses a VLIW5, similar to AMD gpu, with an extra scalar unit, which apparently is hard to develop for, but can yield great results on shader heavy prgrams that are designed for it (or just happen to favor it). The Adreno 205 does outpace the [email protected] in vertex shader heavy benchmarks... and most implementations of snapdragon only use one of its two memory channels! ( because the first is PoP, but thesecond must be off package).
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while the Tegra 2 CPU is powerful, the GPU isn't as powerful as the Adreno 205 GPU on the Incredible S.
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That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Rubicon mainly develops for the iOS platform; I'd reckon they are just lazy at optimizing for several different SOCs.
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That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Rubicon mainly develops for the iOS platform; I'd reckon they are just lazy at optimizing for several different SOCs.
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There is another point I didn't address. Adreno 205 is Unified shaders. So is sgx540. Tegra 2, however, is 4 pixel, 4 vertex. So there are definately situations, even entire genres, that would be potentially slower on Tegra 2 compared to what a benchmark would say.
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I had bought Great Little War Game 2 weeks ago. But after few minutes of playing I canceled the purchase and refunded. Why? Because of poor optimization for Asus.
I have this game also on Ipad2. It runs smoothly and much better.
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I had bought Great Little War Game 2 weeks ago. But after few minutes of playing I canceled the purchase and refunded. Why? Because of poor optimization for Asus.
I have this game also on Ipad2. It runs smoothly and much better.
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generally not just the asus but all the tegra 2 tablets have poor performance for this game
So is the issue that the tegra 2 in some respects is slower or that developers need to write with the way the tegra 2 gpu works in mind?
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love my a500 but I wanna play some of these tegra 3 games and MC3 and Nova with some decent frame rates. looking at the tf300 pretty much because its cheap . just wondering if there's a from that allows gpu over locking like on the Acer, since the gpu is at 200mhz on the tf surely if can handle 400mhz like the tegra2 gpu ? so basicly any rooms that allow gpu over clock on the tf300
This is being released apparently in close proximity to the release date of the TF700 - probably by no accident.
Considering all the reservations people have had with the TF700 Tegra 3 and I/O issues it might pay to wait two more weeks and see how this performs:
http://www.jr.com/samsung/pe/SAM_N8013EAVXAR/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/13/galaxy-note-10-1-pre-order-amazon/
Amazon also had a pre-order up and pulled it. So the release date is in question. Would be interesting if it happens go on sale on July 16. Certainly seems like its release is imminent.
I was certain that I would buy an Infininty as soon as it becomes available in the US. Now, for the first time, I think I might wait. A 10 inch tablet with a quad core exynos sounds impressive, and might really give all tegra 3 tabs some serious competiton.
Trade off is a 720p screen and no dock for potentionally much more capable processor. And of course you would have to consider Samsung's lousy track record with software updates. Course there would likely be big potentional for custom firmware, and then there is the S pen stylus thingy which is sort of interesting...
Touch Wizz is a bit of a turn off for me. The exynos, although better in some synthetic benchmarks will probably be no better for day to day use and the lack of 1080p display is a real bummer. I would still go with an Infinity if it were available.
I agree about touchwiz. I hate it with a passion. On my galaxy note phone, the home screen doesn't even rotate to landscape - at least I haven't found a way to make it do so.
I disagree about exynos however. You can't judge a processor that hasn't been released and benchmarked yet (however synthetically) or tested in real world use.
Everyone touted the Tegra 2 as being the best thing since sliced bread, well before it was released, and same with the Tegra 3
Both have been less than perfect in actual practice. I think I will wait and see. Also remember Samsung is responsible for some very impressive displays - the retina display of the ipad 3, and the amoled screen of the tab 7.7 and excite 7.7 for example. The display of this tab might be quite good. Won't know until its available.
Also, I'll bet a quad core exynos pushing a 720p screen will be blazing fast compared to a Tegra 3 trying to push a 1080p screen..
Honestly, if just the web browsing were smooth it would be a major improvement!
Sounds like a great unit. Shame indeed it doesn't have the battery-powered dock. I want the best of both worlds!
I was considering the Note, but it hasn't got a HD screen and to be honest the keyboard dock clinches it for me...
Will need to see the screen resolution before assessing if this really is a competitor to the TF700.
If you don't know that tf700 holds the benchmark for the best CPU, you shouldn't be talking , it uses Tegra 3 t33 which is the best as far as cpu's and gpu's go and if you guys knew a single thing not the CPU pushes the pixels but the GPU in which case the exynos has a very slight advantage because of the lower resolution screen but Samsung will use the cheap plastic back, and worse back camera, and ****ty updates, sure the infinity has some I/o problems but mine hardly lags, sure it's inconsistent but, but it can be fixed.. sorry no go for samsung
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Touch Wizz is a bit of a turn off for me. The exynos, although better in some synthetic benchmarks will probably be no better for day to day use and the lack of 1080p display is a real bummer. I would still go with an Infinity if it were available.
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Wrong wrong wrong... the exynos is slightly behind t33
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If you don't know that tf700 holds the benchmark for the best CPU, you shouldn't be talking , it uses Tegra 3 t33 which is the best as far as cpu's and gpu's go and if you guys knew a single thing not the CPU pushes the pixels but the GPU in which case the exynos has a very slight advantage because of the lower resolution screen but Samsung will use the cheap plastic back, and worse back camera, and ****ty updates, sure the infinity has some I/o problems but mine hardly lags, sure it's inconsistent but, but it can be fixed.. sorry no go for samsung
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All the benchmarks point that the Exynos found on the GS3 its more powerful than the Tegra 3 T30 wich is almost the same as the Tegra 3 T33 found on the new infinity. I don't think the Tegra 3 will be powerful enough to handle such a big screen resolution.
Here is the chart for GPU performance.
as you can see the new exynos is much powerful than the Tegra 3.
Don't go with a Tegra 3 full hd screen tablet. Wait for a better GPU
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Wrong wrong wrong... the exynos is slightly behind t33
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Is it, that's great to hear! I was going by the T30 vs the Exynos quad core not the T33
Best advice though, feel them both if you can, find out which feels best and has the best experience. I doubt the T33 is too weak for the 1080p display as it is still a very up to date CPU. You have Samsung crappy build quality vs aluminium and a little plastic on the TFI, for me thats a winner.
if this had a better screen and USB port, i'd consider it. If the Toshiba Excite 10, took a micro sd card ( i already purchased a couple of 64gb micro cards) and had a USB port, i'd consider that too. Damn you Asus for making something that has everything i need, but then making these mistakes.
I'd strongly consider it if it had a high DPI screen. As is, its not an option for me. Still picking up a TF700 in a week when it launches.
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All the benchmarks point that the Exynos found on the GS3 its more powerful than the Tegra 3 T30 wich is almost the same as the Tegra 3 T33 found on the new infinity. I don't think the Tegra 3 will be powerful enough to handle such a big screen resolution.
Here is the chart for GPU performance.
as you can see the new exynos is much powerful than the Tegra 3.
Don't go with a Tegra 3 full hd screen tablet. Wait for a better GPU
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geforceulp is powerfull enough despite it being a little slower that mali 400, but you cant deny that cpu is superior to exynos quad
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All the benchmarks point that the Exynos found on the GS3 its more powerful than the Tegra 3 T30 wich is almost the same as the Tegra 3 T33 found on the new infinity. I don't think the Tegra 3 will be powerful enough to handle such a big screen resolution.
Here is the chart for GPU performance.
as you can see the new exynos is much powerful than the Tegra 3.
Don't go with a Tegra 3 full hd screen tablet. Wait for a better GPU
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besides jelly bean is around the corner for the infinity so performance wont be an issue and btw i can run dead trigger without an issue, and it is optimized for 1920x1200
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geforceulp is powerfull enough despite it being a little slower that mali 400, but you cant deny that cpu is superior to exynos quad
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Thanks for the benchmark results. Actually, could you tell me if you always get a similar result? And what governor and power mode were these done on? (performance?)
My results tend to vary, in various benchmarks too.
Does anyone know how much better the SPen is compared to a regular capacitive stylus. I know it has the pressure sensitivity and all, but can it compare to a Wacom Bamboo in the slightest?
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Does anyone know how much better the SPen is compared to a regular capacitive stylus. I know it has the pressure sensitivity and all, but can it compare to a Wacom Bamboo in the slightest?
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AFAIK its main strength is being used with Samsung's "Note" devices because of the induction technology, otherwise it won't give better results.
It seems to bounce around 12000 on antutu, 4800 on quadrant and 1500 they're not always constant and I did it on balanced and I seem to get better results than performance
Could you post some of your benchmark results ?
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It seems to bounce around 12000 on antutu, 4800 on quadrant and 1500 they're not always constant and I did it on balanced and I seem to get better results than performance
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Interesting. I get all sorts of results. Maybe less varied with sio. Probably something faulty about my device, but it runs ok apart from that. I'd still prefer the Krait.
Could you post some of your benchmark results ?
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Sure, first thing tomorrow [I'm on low battery now ;>]
So are you running the "interactive" CPU governor? (+ sio or noop?)
What are your LinPack scores? Are they consistent?
My last result in AnTuTu was 12219, but these were done in performance mode + with performance governor and I remember getting as low as 4xxx in balanced mode with noop.
The difference is amazing. How come the TF300 is smoother when it comes to browsing/switching apps and in some games like Lets Golf 3 compare to the TF700 ?
Both tablets are running latest updates.
Any tips ? Thanks
Maybe because the TF300 has less than half the pixels of the TF700?
I noticed my Tf700 was extremely slow until I flashed Cleanrom 2.3. Now it's fine. I think Asus might have been a little lazy when creating the TF700. I feel like all they did was address the GPS/WIFI problem on the prime and add slightly clocked up processor. These minor modifications definitely can't support the high resolution screen and for some reason the Infinity has some memory speed problems, which can be fixed by flashing Cleanrom 2.3
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Maybe because the TF300 has less than half the pixels of the TF700?
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Isnt the faster processor suppose to compensate for this ?
Not necessarily. The faster processor is the same processor, just the clock speed is higher, which doesnt really make too big of a difference. The gpu is the same and memory speeds really lack. Asus really didnt do well optimizing this tablets software to its specs
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No idea what your talking about. My sisters tf300 is a snail compared to my tf700. Something is wrong with your infinity...
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If you have a chance, you should try to use the tf300 for a more extended period of time (I assume your experience with the tf300 was a few minutes at some computer shop). The tf300 I have tried at the shops are always really fast, my guess would be they are in factory condition, no 3rd party apps to slow things down. Since the screen on the tf300 has a much lower resolution, I believe it should be a very fast tablet. A fair comparison can only be made by those you have spent a substantial amount of time with both tablets.
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Isnt the faster processor suppose to compensate for this ?
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It's much less than twice as fast:
Tegra T30L (TF300): 1.2 GHz CPU (1.3 on 1 core), 416 MHz GPU
Tegra T33 (TF700): 1.6 GHz CPU (1.7 on 1 core), 520 MHz GPU
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No idea what your talking about. My sisters tf300 is a snail compared to my tf700. Something is wrong with your infinity...
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I tried another one this morning and it is as slow as mine.
Pretty lame tablet IMO
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If you have a chance, you should try to use the tf300 for a more extended period of time (I assume your experience with the tf300 was a few minutes at some computer shop). The tf300 I have tried at the shops are always really fast, my guess would be they are in factory condition, no 3rd party apps to slow things down. Since the screen on the tf300 has a much lower resolution, I believe it should be a very fast tablet. A fair comparison can only be made by those you have spent a substantial amount of time with both tablets.
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I own both. You shouldnt assume...
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It's much less than twice as fast:
Tegra T30L (TF300): 1.2 GHz CPU (1.3 on 1 core), 416 MHz GPU
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tx, that explain why it is so slow...
1920x1280 is way too much for this combo
Ok a bit slugish, but what a screen. I like the resolution a lot.
Since I flashed cleanrom 2.3 plus Clemsyn's universal kernel my tf700 flies. quadrant score before (4700) after (6172). All I can say is WOW. update quad now(6231) rom must be settling down.
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I noticed my Tf700 was extremely slow until I flashed Cleanrom 2.3. Now it's fine. I think Asus might have been a little lazy when creating the TF700. I feel like all they did was address the GPS/WIFI problem on the prime and add slightly clocked up processor. These minor modifications definitely can't support the high resolution screen and for some reason the Infinity has some memory speed problems, which can be fixed by flashing Cleanrom 2.3
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Im in the same boat, now on clean rom 2.4 and wow super fast. I have both 300 and 700 and finally the tf700 is going to be the one i pick up more often, its just a shame asus could not h ave done this out of the box.
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The galaxy tab 3 7.0 is released.Its specs are 1.2GHz Dual Core processor,7inch 1024 by 600 screen TFT,GPU is Vivante GC1000 and its running 4.1 Jelly Bean.Camera are 3.15 MP rear camera and 1.3 MP front camera and it does NOT have flash.It records at 720p.Now the GPU is fairly unknown considering the market is flooded by adreno and PowerVR GPUs.Here are some details of the GPU.
About Vivante GPU Products
Optimized for Google Android apps, Vivante's product portfolio includes performance-leading technologies in 2D/3D GPU, CPC Composition Processors, GPGPU, and vector graphics. Vivante cores leverage a unified driver architecture that is compatible with industry-standard application programming interfaces like OpenGL(R) ES 3.0, desktop OpenGL(R), OpenCL(R), OpenVG(R), Microsoft(R) DirectX(R) 11, WebGL, Google Renderscript / FilterScript, Compute, and other standard APIs. With Vivante technology, mobile devices deliver stunning, high resolution user interface graphics as well as to photos, games, business applications and more.
Robust features built into the GPU cores include:
-- World's Smallest Licensable GPU Core for OpenGL ES 3.0
-- Single/Dual/Quad/Eight GPU Configurations
-- Single Software Stack
-- Battery Optimization
-- Memory Efficiency
-- Support for Heterogeneous Platform Architecture
And some Benchmarks are added.They are compared to the tab 2 7.0.
The latest Galaxy slate comes with GPU Vivante GC 1000, which as the benchmark results confirm, is twice as capable as the PowerVR SGX540 found in the Galaxy Tab 2.So while the CPU performance is probably unchanged, besides the clock difference of 200 MHz, graphics power has seen quite some boost in the latest generation of the Samsung affordable slate.
According to the benchmark results, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 is powered by a Marvell PXA986 chipset with 1.2 GHz dual-core Cortex A9 processor. The SoC is not the most impressive in the market, but is still a significant upgrade when compared to the one powering the Galaxy Tab 2.Benchmark results are given on attachments.
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Odd thing i noticed the gpu in the tab 3 7" it preforms much better than my galaxy s3 adreno 205. cpu in the s3 crushes the tab though
How is your tabs handling gaming? Mine doesn't show much promise.
Into the Dead - runs fast but has stuttering issues when striding to the left or right
Heroes O&C - laggy as hell, almost unplayable (might be due to our connection though)
Turbo Racing League - lagging at some parts of the game
Minion Rush - Before reinstalling, it was a total nightmare, totally unplayable ( <10 fps). After reinstalling, the game runs much better now yet far from perfect due to frequent hiccups (lags, freezes, etc.)
SG: DeadZone - Lagging, but not as much as Heroes O&C
Plague Inc. - Game slows down (fps) as the game progresses
However, other games run fine such as:
Dead Trigger - love the smoothness of this game. Runs perfect.
2Fuse - perfect, too.
Frontline Commando: D-Day - runs ok.
Am I the only one experiencing these problems?
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How is your tabs handling gaming? Mine doesn't show much promise.
Into the Dead - runs fast but has stuttering issues when striding to the left or right
Heroes O&C - laggy as hell, almost unplayable (might be due to our connection though)
Turbo Racing League - lagging at some parts of the game
Minion Rush - Before reinstalling, it was a total nightmare, totally unplayable ( <10 fps). After reinstalling, the game runs much better now yet far from perfect due to frequent hiccups (lags, freezes, etc.)
SG: DeadZone - Lagging, but not as much as Heroes O&C
Plague Inc. - Game slows down (fps) as the game progresses
However, other games run fine such as:
Dead Trigger - love the smoothness of this game. Runs perfect.
2Fuse - perfect, too.
Frontline Commando: D-Day - runs ok.
Am I the only one experiencing these problems?
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I donno i do notice some lag on some things but i attribute most of that to the slow cpu then again my way of telling was running quadrant on my tab the fps on all the demos is double what my gs3 gets. And samsung fixes the scores they get as best they can.
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I donno i do notice some lag on some things but i attribute most of that to the slow cpu then again my way of telling was running quadrant on my tab the fps on all the demos is double what my gs3 gets. And samsung fixes the scores they get as best they can.
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Real Racing 3 and Ravenshield 2 runs really fine too!
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How is your tabs handling gaming? Mine doesn't show much promise.
Into the Dead - runs fast but has stuttering issues when striding to the left or right
Heroes O&C - laggy as hell, almost unplayable (might be due to our connection though)
Turbo Racing League - lagging at some parts of the game
Minion Rush - Before reinstalling, it was a total nightmare, totally unplayable ( <10 fps). After reinstalling, the game runs much better now yet far from perfect due to frequent hiccups (lags, freezes, etc.)
SG: DeadZone - Lagging, but not as much as Heroes O&C
Plague Inc. - Game slows down (fps) as the game progresses
However, other games run fine such as:
Dead Trigger - love the smoothness of this game. Runs perfect.
2Fuse - perfect, too.
Frontline Commando: D-Day - runs ok.
Am I the only one experiencing these problems?
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I didnt play all these games but i played NFS most wanted and it runs smoothly.I also played dead trigger and it also runs smoothly.Real racing good too.
Samsung gave an NVIDIA type GPU on it but gave a pentium type CPU on it.
Just a simple question.
Is Mali-400MP better than vivante gc1000 gpu?
same here
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How is your tabs handling gaming? Mine doesn't show much promise.
Into the Dead - runs fast but has stuttering issues when striding to the left or right
Heroes O&C - laggy as hell, almost unplayable (might be due to our connection though)
Turbo Racing League - lagging at some parts of the game
Minion Rush - Before reinstalling, it was a total nightmare, totally unplayable ( <10 fps). After reinstalling, the game runs much better now yet far from perfect due to frequent hiccups (lags, freezes, etc.)
SG: DeadZone - Lagging, but not as much as Heroes O&C
Plague Inc. - Game slows down (fps) as the game progresses
However, other games run fine such as:
Dead Trigger - love the smoothness of this game. Runs perfect.
2Fuse - perfect, too.
Frontline Commando: D-Day - runs ok.
Am I the only one experiencing these problems?
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i don't know about other games but i'm having a same issue with in to the dead, well i thought this was gpu issue, but must be compatibility issue.
lol i was about to exchange my galaxy tab
me too
NexusMobileGamer said:
I didnt play all these games but i played NFS most wanted and it runs smoothly.I also played dead trigger and it also runs smoothly.Real racing good too.
Samsung gave an NVIDIA type GPU on it but gave a pentium type CPU on it.
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I also run NFS games and a a few other "heavy" games with no issue.
I do find I have to clean the Ram a lot though.
On my new tab 210 run all games very fast and without errors
Gesendet von meinem SM-T210R mit Tapatalk 2
bensonhsu2008 said:
Just a simple question.
Is Mali-400MP better than vivante gc1000 gpu?
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yes if you see that mali 400 is paired with good CPUs.but vivante doesnt get that good of a cpu.it all matters on the cpu.the cpu calculates how many FPS can it pull and the GPU just tries to pull it.if the cpu cannot calculate high FPS whats the point of a good GPU?
Bro have u tried to use Nenamark 2 to check the fps for your device? Because the mali 400mp on my galaxy tab 3 8.0 achived a average of 58 fps, which is not bad considering the price I bought this for
gameloft dungeon hunter 4
don't paly
who have succesfully played Injustice Gods Among Us on SM-T210?? mine closes in first loading screen. it unplayable
Lag on sonic dash
Hello everyone, I installed sonic dash on my sm-t210 but it lags a lot, comparing it to the p3110 or the tab 2 7.0, the tab 2 has no problem running sonic dash. Any suggestions guys? thanks..
this tab is a peace of **** sorry if you can buy it an nexus seven one have nvidia
andreicobey said:
How is your tabs handling gaming? Mine doesn't show much promise.
Into the Dead - runs fast but has stuttering issues when striding to the left or right
Heroes O&C - laggy as hell, almost unplayable (might be due to our connection though)
Turbo Racing League - lagging at some parts of the game
Minion Rush - Before reinstalling, it was a total nightmare, totally unplayable ( <10 fps). After reinstalling, the game runs much better now yet far from perfect due to frequent hiccups (lags, freezes, etc.)
SG: DeadZone - Lagging, but not as much as Heroes O&C
Plague Inc. - Game slows down (fps) as the game progresses
However, other games run fine such as:
Dead Trigger - love the smoothness of this game. Runs perfect.
2Fuse - perfect, too.
Frontline Commando: D-Day - runs ok.
Am I the only one experiencing these problems?
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is a piece o garbage ,if googlehadnt brick my nexus 7 i will happy ****ing google and mode apx :/ the tab 3 burn my hands the nexus didnt, the games run but no looks like nexus 7 the browsers are slowly all of them in nexus are better. tab 3 600mb of ram using nothing !!! if on a game and go to other game that game close for low memory in nexus i run real racing 3 and go to shadow zone or gangstar rio without problems of low memory.i hope in my **** country came evga tegra note to buy it that table have nvidia tegra 4 that is a gaming fast browser and in nexus 7 i can play gta 4 from my pc with splashtop game thd without lags in this tab i need to comform with splashtop personal ;(
4phoenix said:
is a piece o garbage ,if googlehadnt brick my nexus 7 i will happy ****ing google and mode apx :/ the tab 3 burn my hands the nexus didnt, the games run but no looks like nexus 7 the browsers are slowly all of them in nexus are better. tab 3 600mb of ram using nothing !!! if on a game and go to other game that game close for low memory in nexus i run real racing 3 and go to shadow zone or gangstar rio without problems of low memory.i hope in my **** country came evga tegra note to buy it that table have nvidia tegra 4 that is a gaming fast browser and in nexus 7 i can play gta 4 from my pc with splashtop game thd without lags in this tab i need to comform with splashtop personal ;(
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Wa are ya crying sa loud ?
for that i cry so loud ;(
mythi said:
Wa are ya crying sa loud ?
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hehe cause a week a go i had a nexus 7 and googleupgraded with low battery and the procees of bootloader dont finish cause no battery but i didnt authorice to google for upgrade .i left my nexus in my bed and when i back from work my nexus dont power on so is in apx mode google giveme another but i live in argentina and i dont have access to dollar to send it for that i cry so loud
could this tweaked like adreno?
Galaxy tav 3 inch 7
NexusMobileGamer said:
yes if you see that mali 400 is paired with good CPUs.but vivante doesnt get that good of a cpu.it all matters on the cpu.the cpu calculates how many FPS can it pull and the GPU just tries to pull it.if the cpu cannot calculate high FPS whats the point of a good GPU?
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Hi everyone, i've the galaxy tab 3 inch 7 (3g), i'm very suprised for the performance. I can run modern combat 4 in high quality in 55fps - 60 fps.
Dead trigger 2 and 1 run very fast.
gc vivante 1000 is better than mali 400,because gc vivante 1000 is a dual gpu and he support opengl ES 3.0 (in galaxy tab 3 the extension it's didn't present because the version of OS is jelly bean 4.1.2, and opengl ES 3.0 run only android 4.3+) but don't worry,galaxy tab 3 in all version will receive the kitkat,and i've tested very games (brothers in arms 2,the walking dead and etc),i'm very happy but this gpu suport only extension tegra (high quality in games). Mali 400 is very powerfull but it doesn't suport opengl ES 3.0.
i have the comparison powervr sgx 540 vs gc vivante 1000.