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[Q] Transformer vs Xoom RAM

I was looking through the specifications of the transformer and realized it had DDR2 memory instead of DDR3. Since the Xoom has a DDR3 memory, I'm just wondering if there really is a difference in terms of performance and stability. Thanks!
Update - Sorry I messed up. The Xoom actually has DDR2 but clocked at a slower speed.

The transformer actually scores higher in memory benchmarks so I don't know about the accuracy of the DDR3 claim.

seshmaru said:
The transformer actually scores higher in memory benchmarks so I don't know about the accuracy of the DDR3 claim.
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Okay I think you are right. God knows what website I read that said the Xoom had DDR3 memory. I just checked more and figured it's probably DDR2. Sorry for the confusion

Here's a comparison (and I've seen other similar ones) showing them both having DDR2 RAM and, interestingly, the TF with a 667MHz system bus compared to the Xoom with a 600MHz system bus. That could help explain why the TF shows faster benchmarks pretty much across the board.
http://mypcgadget.com/wp-content/uploads/Motorola-xoom-eee-pad-comparison2.png

According to Nvidia Tegra 2 only supports ddr2.
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Yeah, i heard that the Tegra Chipset that Xformer and xoom is based on only takes ddr2

Is the weight right on that comparison? They say 2.2 pounds. I thought it was lighter than the zoom.
wynand32 said:
Here's a comparison (and I've seen other similar ones) showing them both having DDR2 RAM and, interestingly, the TF with a 667MHz system bus compared to the Xoom with a 600MHz system bus. That could help explain why the TF shows faster benchmarks pretty much across the board.
http://mypcgadget.com/wp-content/uploads/Motorola-xoom-eee-pad-comparison2.png
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2.2 lbs includes the Keyboard Dock....

Badwolve1 said:
Yeah, i heard that the Tegra Chipset that Xformer and xoom is based on only takes ddr2
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I was on my phone when I posted my last comment so I couldn't copy the link easily.
Here it is http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-2.html
Memory
Frequency DDR2-667 (Tegra 250)
LPDDR2-600 (Tegra 230 and Tegra 250)
Memory Size Up to 1GB

donatom3 said:
I was on my phone when I posted my last comment so I couldn't copy the link easily.
Here it is http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-2.html
Memory
Frequency DDR2-667 (Tegra 250)
LPDDR2-600 (Tegra 230 and Tegra 250)
Memory Size Up to 1GB
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Aha, so, that explains the discrepancy in performance between the Asus and the Xoom. It could also help explain why the Xoom seems to get better battery life than the Asus. Fascinating.
In this case, I'll take a faster system with somewhat less battery life, since the keyboard dock more than makes up for the difference.

wynand32 said:
Aha, so, that explains the discrepancy in performance between the Asus and the Xoom. It could also help explain why the Xoom seems to get better battery life than the Asus. Fascinating.
In this case, I'll take a faster system with somewhat less battery life, since the keyboard dock more than makes up for the difference.
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Battery life statement is very subjective since different reviews showed the transformer winning, and some showed xoom winning. I'm assuming they might have been using the my water live wallpaper on some tests while testing battery life though which would explain the discrepancies.

seshmaru said:
Battery life statement is very subjective since different reviews showed the transformer winning, and some showed xoom winning. I'm assuming they might have been using the my water live wallpaper on some tests while testing battery life though which would explain the discrepancies.
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True enough. So maybe the batter savings from using the low power RAM is less than the performance difference. Because that's definitely been fairly consistent in showing the Asus as being the better performer.

Xoom's system bus speed is less than that of the Transformer. Best Buy's spec page for both show DDR2...

Asus transformer prime infinity

From what I see it seems that they'll switch to snapdragon s4, 1.7Ghz most likely which uses a15 compared to the Penta core tegra 3 which uses a9.. now don't come with the trash....
Oh oh s4 is better... no its not., you want proof ? I get 12000 CPU score on quadrant while s4 got 8000 that's 50% faster sorry.. as of battery life... companion core...........
BUT, there is always a but, the s4 is good enough to handle pretty much anything and the adreno 225 is better than geforce ulp which helps with those pixels .. also the tegra 3 seems to lag somehow.. in browsing.. when the page is loading if you scroll or pinch to zoom it lags on the prime as well as on the one x..in the rest it's the fastest..
In terms of raw power the tegra 3 is still the king. But it that what we need ?
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compuw22c said:
Cool story bro
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Ditto

why start a new thread when we have a thread about this tab already?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523811

Soooooo many things wrong with your line of thinking.
First, quadrant measures IO of memory as well as processor speed and many other things. If you have, say class 10 memory on your device and a craptastic processor it could rate higher on quadrant than a device with class 4 memory and a extremely fast processor. Hell some roms even tweak to read extremely fast to rank very high on quadrant at the expense of everything else.
Quadrant tests mean nothing because they can be easially mutilated. If i want high quadrant its easy, if i want a fast device that does what i want, its not so easy.
next, the browser itself is what lags, not the tegra3 chip. Take the stock browser and put it in ANY other device, it will lag just as much. Its a **** browser, get one that works and then talk.
If you drive a ferrarri and say "wow this car is amazing but the windshield gets very dirty and the wipers dont clean it that well" does it mean the car is ****? No! it means you need new wipers. The same way if your browser or launcher or whatever is laggy dont complain, try a different browser and it will work better.
I swear, can we have a "UnThanks" button for some of these people? im tired of seeing these threads...

pileot said:
Soooooo many things wrong with your line of thinking.
First, quadrant measures IO of memory as well as processor speed and many other things. If you have, say class 10 memory on your device and a craptastic processor it could rate higher on quadrant than a device with class 4 memory and a extremely fast processor. Hell some roms even tweak to read extremely fast to rank very high on quadrant at the expense of everything else.
Quadrant tests mean nothing because they can be easially mutilated. If i want high quadrant its easy, if i want a fast device that does what i want, its not so easy.
next, the browser itself is what lags, not the tegra3 chip. Take the stock browser and put it in ANY other device, it will lag just as much. Its a **** browser, get one that works and then talk.
If you drive a ferrarri and say "wow this car is amazing but the windshield gets very dirty and the wipers dont clean it that well" does it mean the car is ****? No! it means you need new wipers. The same way if your browser or launcher or whatever is laggy dont complain, try a different browser and it will work better.
I swear, can we have a "UnThanks" button for some of these people? im tired of seeing these threads...
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not really...... you know the browser doesn't lag as much on my nexus....
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http://www.stuff.tv/news/phone/news-nugget/exclusive-htc-one-x-vs-htc-one-xl-%E2%80%93-tegra-3-vs-snapdragon-s4
Here read below the antutu benchmark
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Tegra 3 GPU is probably too weak to support the 1920 x 1080 display. Anandtech points this out in their iPad 3 review.

What about the S4 Pro? Is the only difference between the Pro and Non Pro the GPU?

Tegra 3 > Snapdragon S4?
Tegra 3 < Snapdragon S4?
DOES NOT MATTER
Personally I think the Tegra 3 is a better option, but that doesn't matter. They are only switching to the Snapdragon on the LTE versions and are switching to the Snapdragon because the Tegra 3 SoC doesn't support LTE. If you want LTE, you can't get Tegra 3.

ray3andrei said:
not really...... you know the browser doesn't lag as much on my nexus....
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The browser doesn't lag at all on my Prime. Not since I did a factory reset anyway.
There are a lot of things that can impact the performance or a particular app including the processor. However just because an app lags on one device and not on the other, that isn't proof that one processor is better than another. In fact that kind of comparison is practically worthless for judging the relative abilities of two different chipsets.
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Tegra 3 GPU is probably too weak to support the 1920 x 1080 display. Anandtech points this out in their iPad 3 review.
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If that were really true, it is unlikely that Asus would be using the Tegra 3 on the WiFi TF Infinity tablets.

rushless said:
Tegra 3 GPU is probably too weak to support the 1920 x 1080 display. Anandtech points this out in their iPad 3 review.
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Here's the thing, anadtech, like pretty much most other tech media sites, have been taken over by apple fanboys who would say/do anything to put apple in a better light than others. Some times they would lie right through their teeth just to put apple in a better light. Some times it's more subtle.
The 32gb TFP model sells at $499. Everyone knows this. Last month, there was a review comparison of the prime versus the new ipad. The author dared to say the prime starts at like $600 and he proved it by linking to to an awefully overpriced website. When myself and several others spammed the hell out of their inbox demanding they change it, they changed it and said it was a "typo". I just find it amazing that all these mistakes and typos are always made to make apple look better.
Anyway, nowadays I don't trust anything the tech media says about the performances of apple devices versus others. They don't even try to hide their apple bias anymore.
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And I recently tried to use the ipad again. Smooth device. However, it still feels like an oversized ipod touch because everything is oversized. I'm not 80 years old. I don't need the icons to be that big.

Most reviews on YouTube do the same,all these so called tech website are been bought buy Apple...
Very sad......
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Thicker? Heavier? Shorter battery life? Pass.
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goodintentions said:
Here's the thing, anadtech, like pretty much most other tech media sites, have been taken over by apple fanboys who would say/do anything to put apple in a better light than others. Some times they would lie right through their teeth just to put apple in a better light. Some times it's more subtle.
The 32gb TFP model sells at $499. Everyone knows this. Last month, there was a review comparison of the prime versus the new ipad. The author dared to say the prime starts at like $600 and he proved it by linking to to an awefully overpriced website. When myself and several others spammed the hell out of their inbox demanding they change it, they changed it and said it was a "typo". I just find it amazing that all these mistakes and typos are always made to make apple look better.
Anyway, nowadays I don't trust anything the tech media says about the performances of apple devices versus others. They don't even try to hide their apple bias anymore.
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And I recently tried to use the ipad again. Smooth device. However, it still feels like an oversized ipod touch because everything is oversized. I'm not 80 years old. I don't need the icons to be that big.
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Anandtech liked the Prime so much they did a pre review and a redo (due to radio issues with first unit), plus collaborated with Asus on the wifi radio issues. The Tegra 3 gpu is too weak to support 1920 x 1080. Takes a lot of power and the reason the gpu is a big part of the A5X in the iPad 3. Not fanboy a issue, but a LOT of pixels to push issue. There will need to be a new gpu if the Tegra 3 is used- if users expect smooth performance.

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Anandtech liked the Prime so much they did a pre review and a redo (due to radio issues with first unit), plus collaborated with Asus on the wifi radio issues. The Tegra 3 gpu is too weak to support 1920 x 1080. Takes a lot of power and the reason the gpu is a big part of the A5X in the iPad 3. Not fanboy a issue, but a LOT of pixels to push issue. There will need to be a new gpu if the Tegra 3 is used- if users expect smooth performance.
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Ok, I'll take that I guess.
I'm just weary about tech websites nowadays. Last year, I stumbled upon an article comparing the ipad 2 to an android tablet. From start to finish, the author never even mentioned what the android tablet was. When I zoomed into the picture, I could have sworn it was one of those cheap chinese tablets that ran on android 2.2 or 1.6. This was about the time when praising the ipad got you a lot of readers because the ipad 2 had just come out.
Almost every tech review of the TF101 said typing using the docking station was annoying because the mouse pointer was jumping around too much. Get it? Not a single one of these so-called tech reviewers and experts knew the 4th button from the left top row disables the trackpad.
What I've found most interesting is the fact that for almost a year most tech reviewers just ignored the TF101 completely. There were plenty of "top 10 tablets" or "ipad killer tablets" articles. 99% of them left out the TF101 completely even though the transformer was even more popular than the xoom.
Let's go back even further. I remember when asus chairman launched the asus transformer along with several other new products. I was watching live blogs made by various "journalists". What I noticed was they were all criticizing the transformer even before they got their hands on it. I specifically remember one "journalist" writing he thought no one would be interested in a laptop-tablet hybrid.
The tech media needs to start doing some heavy self-censuring if they want me to start trusting them again. As far as I'm concern, they're a bunch of liars who would say anything to put apple above everything else.

Agreed with the fanboy bias, since there are a few major sites that prefer Apples in their diet.

comon guys lets face it: tegra 3 will get pwnd by the nextgen a15 cpu's. thats how it works , simple.
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Potential Alternative/Competitor to TF700

This is being released apparently in close proximity to the release date of the TF700 - probably by no accident.
Considering all the reservations people have had with the TF700 Tegra 3 and I/O issues it might pay to wait two more weeks and see how this performs:
http://www.jr.com/samsung/pe/SAM_N8013EAVXAR/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/13/galaxy-note-10-1-pre-order-amazon/
Amazon also had a pre-order up and pulled it. So the release date is in question. Would be interesting if it happens go on sale on July 16. Certainly seems like its release is imminent.
I was certain that I would buy an Infininty as soon as it becomes available in the US. Now, for the first time, I think I might wait. A 10 inch tablet with a quad core exynos sounds impressive, and might really give all tegra 3 tabs some serious competiton.
Trade off is a 720p screen and no dock for potentionally much more capable processor. And of course you would have to consider Samsung's lousy track record with software updates. Course there would likely be big potentional for custom firmware, and then there is the S pen stylus thingy which is sort of interesting...

Touch Wizz is a bit of a turn off for me. The exynos, although better in some synthetic benchmarks will probably be no better for day to day use and the lack of 1080p display is a real bummer. I would still go with an Infinity if it were available.

I agree about touchwiz. I hate it with a passion. On my galaxy note phone, the home screen doesn't even rotate to landscape - at least I haven't found a way to make it do so.
I disagree about exynos however. You can't judge a processor that hasn't been released and benchmarked yet (however synthetically) or tested in real world use.
Everyone touted the Tegra 2 as being the best thing since sliced bread, well before it was released, and same with the Tegra 3
Both have been less than perfect in actual practice. I think I will wait and see. Also remember Samsung is responsible for some very impressive displays - the retina display of the ipad 3, and the amoled screen of the tab 7.7 and excite 7.7 for example. The display of this tab might be quite good. Won't know until its available.
Also, I'll bet a quad core exynos pushing a 720p screen will be blazing fast compared to a Tegra 3 trying to push a 1080p screen..
Honestly, if just the web browsing were smooth it would be a major improvement!

Sounds like a great unit. Shame indeed it doesn't have the battery-powered dock. I want the best of both worlds!

I was considering the Note, but it hasn't got a HD screen and to be honest the keyboard dock clinches it for me...

Will need to see the screen resolution before assessing if this really is a competitor to the TF700.

If you don't know that tf700 holds the benchmark for the best CPU, you shouldn't be talking , it uses Tegra 3 t33 which is the best as far as cpu's and gpu's go and if you guys knew a single thing not the CPU pushes the pixels but the GPU in which case the exynos has a very slight advantage because of the lower resolution screen but Samsung will use the cheap plastic back, and worse back camera, and ****ty updates, sure the infinity has some I/o problems but mine hardly lags, sure it's inconsistent but, but it can be fixed.. sorry no go for samsung
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mdemons12 said:
Touch Wizz is a bit of a turn off for me. The exynos, although better in some synthetic benchmarks will probably be no better for day to day use and the lack of 1080p display is a real bummer. I would still go with an Infinity if it were available.
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Wrong wrong wrong... the exynos is slightly behind t33
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ray3andrei said:
If you don't know that tf700 holds the benchmark for the best CPU, you shouldn't be talking , it uses Tegra 3 t33 which is the best as far as cpu's and gpu's go and if you guys knew a single thing not the CPU pushes the pixels but the GPU in which case the exynos has a very slight advantage because of the lower resolution screen but Samsung will use the cheap plastic back, and worse back camera, and ****ty updates, sure the infinity has some I/o problems but mine hardly lags, sure it's inconsistent but, but it can be fixed.. sorry no go for samsung
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All the benchmarks point that the Exynos found on the GS3 its more powerful than the Tegra 3 T30 wich is almost the same as the Tegra 3 T33 found on the new infinity. I don't think the Tegra 3 will be powerful enough to handle such a big screen resolution.
Here is the chart for GPU performance.
as you can see the new exynos is much powerful than the Tegra 3.
Don't go with a Tegra 3 full hd screen tablet. Wait for a better GPU
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ray3andrei said:
Wrong wrong wrong... the exynos is slightly behind t33
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Is it, that's great to hear! I was going by the T30 vs the Exynos quad core not the T33
Best advice though, feel them both if you can, find out which feels best and has the best experience. I doubt the T33 is too weak for the 1080p display as it is still a very up to date CPU. You have Samsung crappy build quality vs aluminium and a little plastic on the TFI, for me thats a winner.

if this had a better screen and USB port, i'd consider it. If the Toshiba Excite 10, took a micro sd card ( i already purchased a couple of 64gb micro cards) and had a USB port, i'd consider that too. Damn you Asus for making something that has everything i need, but then making these mistakes.

I'd strongly consider it if it had a high DPI screen. As is, its not an option for me. Still picking up a TF700 in a week when it launches.

josuetenista said:
All the benchmarks point that the Exynos found on the GS3 its more powerful than the Tegra 3 T30 wich is almost the same as the Tegra 3 T33 found on the new infinity. I don't think the Tegra 3 will be powerful enough to handle such a big screen resolution.
Here is the chart for GPU performance.
as you can see the new exynos is much powerful than the Tegra 3.
Don't go with a Tegra 3 full hd screen tablet. Wait for a better GPU
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geforceulp is powerfull enough despite it being a little slower that mali 400, but you cant deny that cpu is superior to exynos quad
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josuetenista said:
All the benchmarks point that the Exynos found on the GS3 its more powerful than the Tegra 3 T30 wich is almost the same as the Tegra 3 T33 found on the new infinity. I don't think the Tegra 3 will be powerful enough to handle such a big screen resolution.
Here is the chart for GPU performance.
as you can see the new exynos is much powerful than the Tegra 3.
Don't go with a Tegra 3 full hd screen tablet. Wait for a better GPU
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besides jelly bean is around the corner for the infinity so performance wont be an issue and btw i can run dead trigger without an issue, and it is optimized for 1920x1200
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ray3andrei said:
geforceulp is powerfull enough despite it being a little slower that mali 400, but you cant deny that cpu is superior to exynos quad
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Thanks for the benchmark results. Actually, could you tell me if you always get a similar result? And what governor and power mode were these done on? (performance?)
My results tend to vary, in various benchmarks too.

Does anyone know how much better the SPen is compared to a regular capacitive stylus. I know it has the pressure sensitivity and all, but can it compare to a Wacom Bamboo in the slightest?

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Does anyone know how much better the SPen is compared to a regular capacitive stylus. I know it has the pressure sensitivity and all, but can it compare to a Wacom Bamboo in the slightest?
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AFAIK its main strength is being used with Samsung's "Note" devices because of the induction technology, otherwise it won't give better results.

It seems to bounce around 12000 on antutu, 4800 on quadrant and 1500 they're not always constant and I did it on balanced and I seem to get better results than performance
Could you post some of your benchmark results ?
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It seems to bounce around 12000 on antutu, 4800 on quadrant and 1500 they're not always constant and I did it on balanced and I seem to get better results than performance
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Interesting. I get all sorts of results. Maybe less varied with sio. Probably something faulty about my device, but it runs ok apart from that. I'd still prefer the Krait.
Could you post some of your benchmark results ?
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Sure, first thing tomorrow [I'm on low battery now ;>]
So are you running the "interactive" CPU governor? (+ sio or noop?)
What are your LinPack scores? Are they consistent?
My last result in AnTuTu was 12219, but these were done in performance mode + with performance governor and I remember getting as low as 4xxx in balanced mode with noop.

IO issues... continued...

So we all know about the performance issues that this tablet is facing in a production state.
And lets go into more details here.
To see the exact cause of the problem, software or hardware and / or both for that matter..
Tools used for testing.
Antutu benchmark
Device performance
Interestingly enough this device is using much older kernel version (2.6) and the other device (sgs3 uses the kernel ver 3.0) for comparison.
imageshack dot us/gal.php?id=q5qukt7W2NHe0ujL2ueYnKqWpZqcpJifqZSnkdXjzZs
SGS3 scored Ram speed of 509MB/sec
TF700 scored Ram speed of 177MB/sec
pdadb dot net/index.php?m=specs&id=3299&view=1&c=asus_transformer_pad_infinity__eee_pad_transformer_prime_tf700t
pdadb dot net/index.php?m=specs&id=3534&view=1&c=samsung_gt-i9300_galaxy_s_iii_16gb__galaxy_s3
Wait a minute that doesn't sound right, should the TF700's DDR3L SDRAM be inferior to SGS3's LPDDR2 SDRAM both being 1GB.
imageshack dot us/gal.php?id=q5enkt7W2NHe0ujL2ueYnKqWpZqcpJifrJenkdXjzZs
As for the results for the SDcard on the TF700 what can be concluded is that either the nvidia system on chip storage issue or kernel driver being the culprit.
What do you guys think?

I think that an update will solve this problem.

DDR3 1600Mhz vs LPDDR2 500Mhz that's bananas.. the tf infinity has the edge by quite a lot what the gs3 has is the dual channel config maybe testing tools aren't yet optimized for DDR3 or 1600Mhz or both, but updates are the thing we are all waiting for
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DDR3 1600Mhz vs LPDDR2 500Mhz that's bananas.. the tf infinity has the edge by quite a lot what the gs3 has is the dual channel config maybe testing tools aren't yet optimized for DDR3 or 1600Mhz or both, but updates are the thing we are all waiting for
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If I remember correctly the Prime has DDR2 while the TF300 has DDR3 (and therefore, the latter had *somewhat* improved I/O). I find it hard to believe (on the one hand; on the other (cynical) side, it might be probable ) that ASUS would "regress" to the earlier, demonstratively faulty setup in a device that costs a significantly higher amount of money than either of the previous devices. Obviously, the latter case would be the only situation in which updates would not be beneficial; in all other scenarios I can think of, updates should be beneficial in alleviating the I/O issues, at least partially.
EDIT: Thanks, demandarin, for the correction: the Prime had NOT a different memory channel configuration, but carries DDR2 RAM instead of the TF300's DDR3 RAM. Also, in the newer user experiences, the TF300 doesn't seem to improve that much on the lags, etc. as seen on the Prime. That would invalidate the stance of a ' regression' in relative performance between the TF300 and the TF700, given that, ultimately, the Prime indeed is significantly faster on the whole.

MartyHulskemper said:
If I remember correctly the Prime had a single-channel configuration while the TF300 had a dual-channel configuration (and therefore, the latter had significantly improved I/O). I find it hard to believe (on the one hand; on the other (cynical) side, it might be probable ) that ASUS would "regress" to the earlier, demonstratively faulty setup in a device that costs a significantly higher amount of money than either of the previous devices. Obviously, the latter case would be the only situation in which updates would not be beneficial; in all other scenarios I can think of, updates should be beneficial in alleviating the I/O issues, at least partially.
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300 has ddr3 like the 700 but its alot slower. where did you see that the 300 has dual channel configuration? that's a first, never heard or seen that one before.

demandarin said:
300 has ddr3 like the 700 but its alot slower. where did you see that the 300 has dual channel configuration? that's a first, never heard or seen that one before.
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As I said, I could remember incorrectly.
EDIT: I did, as the Tegra 3 chip only supports single-channel memory, as referenced on several websited (Anandtech,for example).
Wow, I'm up against some resistance here... Thanks for looking into the TF700 forums, demandarin -- it's very much appreciated! we could use a little help here and there!
I'll try and find the link to the review that reported that spec. I was quite amazed, and it made me hesitate to the Prime as compared to the TF300. In fact, so long that the TF700 was available before I made my decision, hahaha! (I was to be a late buyer of the Prime, granted.)
EIDIT: I can't find the reference, so that's one statement I will happily retract. Sorry for the inconvenience and confusion; I stand corrected.
The only good this is that it made me wait for the TF700, which is a decision I'm not regretting so far, issues notwithstanding.

The TF300 and TF700 having DDR3 instead of DDR2 really only comes into play for the GPU. With the TF700 they bumped it up to 1600 MHz to get the juice needed for a 1920x1200 display.
For "normal" use, the difference is miniscule. The different SoCs used (T33 vs T30/T30L) makes a larger difference in performance in most cases . I very much doubt that the RAM used plays any major part in the IO issues people experience. That's gotta be either a Tegra 2/3 limitation (since Anand noticed it even back on the Tegra 2 TF101) or a firmware/software issue that's yet to be solved. I'm inclined to believe it's the former since it's still not fixed.

Einride said:
The TF300 and TF700 having DDR3 instead of DDR2 really only comes into play for the GPU. With the TF700 they bumped it up to 1600 MHz to get the juice needed for a 1920x1200 display.
For "normal" use, the difference is miniscule. The different SoCs used (T33 vs T30/T30L) makes a larger difference in performance in most cases . I very much doubt that the RAM used plays any major part in the IO issues people experience. That's gotta be either a Tegra 2/3 limitation (since Anand noticed it even back on the Tegra 2 TF101) or a firmware/software issue that's yet to be solved. I'm inclined to believe it's the former since it's still not fixed.
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Well, if that's the case we can at the least put our minds -- and our hopes of improvement -- to rest.

Hopefully there will be someone who would want to exchange his/her TF700KL (Snapdragon) for my TF700T (T3) for a little extra when it shows up ;8)

[Q] Help need dont know what tablet to choose

the first tablet is ASUS Eee Pad Transformer Prime TF300T-1E025A (Black) and the other one is Prestigio wiht this specs
Display Size 9.7" 2048x1536
CPU Quad Core RK3188 1,6 GHz
GPU Quad Core Mali 400 MP
internal memory: 8 Gb
RAM 2 Gb
Operating System Android 4.2
Battery 8 000 mAh
Front camera 2 Mpixel
Back camera 2 Mpixel
miniHDMI, BT, Wi-Fi

Main advantage most of rockchip based devices - is really hard to break it with software methods. So You don't need any stuff like nvflash. But anyway Your choice should be determined by Your own preferences. I really love my tf300t and it seems like I will never move to non transformer tablets .

Graiden05 said:
Main advantage most of rockchip based devices - is really hard to break it with software methods. So You don't need any stuff like nvflash. But anyway Your choice should be determined by Your own preferences. I really love my tf300t and it seems like I will never move to non transformer tablets .
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I need for gaming and stuff like that tablet who will run all app on the android market and i mean run it smooth so please if you want answer me what to get what tablet would be faster on using all application's and games sorry for my engish its not very good

As I know RK3188 should provide higher performance, but so large screen resolution may hold it back. However Prestigio may have lower resolution mode that can fix performance issue if it appears (I'm not quite sure about that). So this part of hardware better on Prestigio tablet.