So we all know about the performance issues that this tablet is facing in a production state.
And lets go into more details here.
To see the exact cause of the problem, software or hardware and / or both for that matter..
Tools used for testing.
Antutu benchmark
Device performance
Interestingly enough this device is using much older kernel version (2.6) and the other device (sgs3 uses the kernel ver 3.0) for comparison.
imageshack dot us/gal.php?id=q5qukt7W2NHe0ujL2ueYnKqWpZqcpJifqZSnkdXjzZs
SGS3 scored Ram speed of 509MB/sec
TF700 scored Ram speed of 177MB/sec
pdadb dot net/index.php?m=specs&id=3299&view=1&c=asus_transformer_pad_infinity__eee_pad_transformer_prime_tf700t
pdadb dot net/index.php?m=specs&id=3534&view=1&c=samsung_gt-i9300_galaxy_s_iii_16gb__galaxy_s3
Wait a minute that doesn't sound right, should the TF700's DDR3L SDRAM be inferior to SGS3's LPDDR2 SDRAM both being 1GB.
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As for the results for the SDcard on the TF700 what can be concluded is that either the nvidia system on chip storage issue or kernel driver being the culprit.
What do you guys think?
I think that an update will solve this problem.
DDR3 1600Mhz vs LPDDR2 500Mhz that's bananas.. the tf infinity has the edge by quite a lot what the gs3 has is the dual channel config maybe testing tools aren't yet optimized for DDR3 or 1600Mhz or both, but updates are the thing we are all waiting for
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DDR3 1600Mhz vs LPDDR2 500Mhz that's bananas.. the tf infinity has the edge by quite a lot what the gs3 has is the dual channel config maybe testing tools aren't yet optimized for DDR3 or 1600Mhz or both, but updates are the thing we are all waiting for
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If I remember correctly the Prime has DDR2 while the TF300 has DDR3 (and therefore, the latter had *somewhat* improved I/O). I find it hard to believe (on the one hand; on the other (cynical) side, it might be probable ) that ASUS would "regress" to the earlier, demonstratively faulty setup in a device that costs a significantly higher amount of money than either of the previous devices. Obviously, the latter case would be the only situation in which updates would not be beneficial; in all other scenarios I can think of, updates should be beneficial in alleviating the I/O issues, at least partially.
EDIT: Thanks, demandarin, for the correction: the Prime had NOT a different memory channel configuration, but carries DDR2 RAM instead of the TF300's DDR3 RAM. Also, in the newer user experiences, the TF300 doesn't seem to improve that much on the lags, etc. as seen on the Prime. That would invalidate the stance of a ' regression' in relative performance between the TF300 and the TF700, given that, ultimately, the Prime indeed is significantly faster on the whole.
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If I remember correctly the Prime had a single-channel configuration while the TF300 had a dual-channel configuration (and therefore, the latter had significantly improved I/O). I find it hard to believe (on the one hand; on the other (cynical) side, it might be probable ) that ASUS would "regress" to the earlier, demonstratively faulty setup in a device that costs a significantly higher amount of money than either of the previous devices. Obviously, the latter case would be the only situation in which updates would not be beneficial; in all other scenarios I can think of, updates should be beneficial in alleviating the I/O issues, at least partially.
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300 has ddr3 like the 700 but its alot slower. where did you see that the 300 has dual channel configuration? that's a first, never heard or seen that one before.
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300 has ddr3 like the 700 but its alot slower. where did you see that the 300 has dual channel configuration? that's a first, never heard or seen that one before.
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As I said, I could remember incorrectly.
EDIT: I did, as the Tegra 3 chip only supports single-channel memory, as referenced on several websited (Anandtech,for example).
Wow, I'm up against some resistance here... Thanks for looking into the TF700 forums, demandarin -- it's very much appreciated! we could use a little help here and there!
I'll try and find the link to the review that reported that spec. I was quite amazed, and it made me hesitate to the Prime as compared to the TF300. In fact, so long that the TF700 was available before I made my decision, hahaha! (I was to be a late buyer of the Prime, granted.)
EIDIT: I can't find the reference, so that's one statement I will happily retract. Sorry for the inconvenience and confusion; I stand corrected.
The only good this is that it made me wait for the TF700, which is a decision I'm not regretting so far, issues notwithstanding.
The TF300 and TF700 having DDR3 instead of DDR2 really only comes into play for the GPU. With the TF700 they bumped it up to 1600 MHz to get the juice needed for a 1920x1200 display.
For "normal" use, the difference is miniscule. The different SoCs used (T33 vs T30/T30L) makes a larger difference in performance in most cases . I very much doubt that the RAM used plays any major part in the IO issues people experience. That's gotta be either a Tegra 2/3 limitation (since Anand noticed it even back on the Tegra 2 TF101) or a firmware/software issue that's yet to be solved. I'm inclined to believe it's the former since it's still not fixed.
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The TF300 and TF700 having DDR3 instead of DDR2 really only comes into play for the GPU. With the TF700 they bumped it up to 1600 MHz to get the juice needed for a 1920x1200 display.
For "normal" use, the difference is miniscule. The different SoCs used (T33 vs T30/T30L) makes a larger difference in performance in most cases . I very much doubt that the RAM used plays any major part in the IO issues people experience. That's gotta be either a Tegra 2/3 limitation (since Anand noticed it even back on the Tegra 2 TF101) or a firmware/software issue that's yet to be solved. I'm inclined to believe it's the former since it's still not fixed.
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Well, if that's the case we can at the least put our minds -- and our hopes of improvement -- to rest.
Hopefully there will be someone who would want to exchange his/her TF700KL (Snapdragon) for my TF700T (T3) for a little extra when it shows up ;8)
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I'm sure everyone has read and seen all the benchmark tests done on this thing in comparison to other more well known devices like the ipad and the xoom. I haven't done any such tests. That said, speaking from personal experience, damn this thing is fast. I'm running vegan 5.1.1 of course.
Anyone here thinks this thing is slow? I'm just curious why you think it's slow and what are you comparing it to?
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I'm sure everyone has read and seen all the benchmark tests done on this thing in comparison to other more well known devices like the ipad and the xoom. I haven't done any such tests. That said, speaking from personal experience, damn this thing is fast. I'm running vegan 5.1.1 of course.
Anyone here thinks this thing is slow? I'm just curious why you think it's slow and what are you comparing it to?
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late response but better late than never. I own a couple of cortex-a8 tablets as well and notice the performance difference between a tegra2 based device and those. Partially on those though I think that it's also a lack of RAM as 2 have only 256MB while the other has 512MB like the gtab. The 512 is faster but still more sluggish overall than the gtab. Lastly I just have to believe that some SoCs are just more efficient than others even when they use the same base CPU core, which I especially noticed in ARM11 based products.
Another factor is the firmware used and especially in tegra case the various hardware drivers used.
I was looking through the specifications of the transformer and realized it had DDR2 memory instead of DDR3. Since the Xoom has a DDR3 memory, I'm just wondering if there really is a difference in terms of performance and stability. Thanks!
Update - Sorry I messed up. The Xoom actually has DDR2 but clocked at a slower speed.
The transformer actually scores higher in memory benchmarks so I don't know about the accuracy of the DDR3 claim.
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The transformer actually scores higher in memory benchmarks so I don't know about the accuracy of the DDR3 claim.
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Okay I think you are right. God knows what website I read that said the Xoom had DDR3 memory. I just checked more and figured it's probably DDR2. Sorry for the confusion
Here's a comparison (and I've seen other similar ones) showing them both having DDR2 RAM and, interestingly, the TF with a 667MHz system bus compared to the Xoom with a 600MHz system bus. That could help explain why the TF shows faster benchmarks pretty much across the board.
http://mypcgadget.com/wp-content/uploads/Motorola-xoom-eee-pad-comparison2.png
According to Nvidia Tegra 2 only supports ddr2.
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Yeah, i heard that the Tegra Chipset that Xformer and xoom is based on only takes ddr2
Is the weight right on that comparison? They say 2.2 pounds. I thought it was lighter than the zoom.
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Here's a comparison (and I've seen other similar ones) showing them both having DDR2 RAM and, interestingly, the TF with a 667MHz system bus compared to the Xoom with a 600MHz system bus. That could help explain why the TF shows faster benchmarks pretty much across the board.
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2.2 lbs includes the Keyboard Dock....
Badwolve1 said:
Yeah, i heard that the Tegra Chipset that Xformer and xoom is based on only takes ddr2
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I was on my phone when I posted my last comment so I couldn't copy the link easily.
Here it is http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-2.html
Memory
Frequency DDR2-667 (Tegra 250)
LPDDR2-600 (Tegra 230 and Tegra 250)
Memory Size Up to 1GB
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I was on my phone when I posted my last comment so I couldn't copy the link easily.
Here it is http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-2.html
Memory
Frequency DDR2-667 (Tegra 250)
LPDDR2-600 (Tegra 230 and Tegra 250)
Memory Size Up to 1GB
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Aha, so, that explains the discrepancy in performance between the Asus and the Xoom. It could also help explain why the Xoom seems to get better battery life than the Asus. Fascinating.
In this case, I'll take a faster system with somewhat less battery life, since the keyboard dock more than makes up for the difference.
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Aha, so, that explains the discrepancy in performance between the Asus and the Xoom. It could also help explain why the Xoom seems to get better battery life than the Asus. Fascinating.
In this case, I'll take a faster system with somewhat less battery life, since the keyboard dock more than makes up for the difference.
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Battery life statement is very subjective since different reviews showed the transformer winning, and some showed xoom winning. I'm assuming they might have been using the my water live wallpaper on some tests while testing battery life though which would explain the discrepancies.
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Battery life statement is very subjective since different reviews showed the transformer winning, and some showed xoom winning. I'm assuming they might have been using the my water live wallpaper on some tests while testing battery life though which would explain the discrepancies.
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True enough. So maybe the batter savings from using the low power RAM is less than the performance difference. Because that's definitely been fairly consistent in showing the Asus as being the better performer.
Xoom's system bus speed is less than that of the Transformer. Best Buy's spec page for both show DDR2...
This is being released apparently in close proximity to the release date of the TF700 - probably by no accident.
Considering all the reservations people have had with the TF700 Tegra 3 and I/O issues it might pay to wait two more weeks and see how this performs:
http://www.jr.com/samsung/pe/SAM_N8013EAVXAR/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/13/galaxy-note-10-1-pre-order-amazon/
Amazon also had a pre-order up and pulled it. So the release date is in question. Would be interesting if it happens go on sale on July 16. Certainly seems like its release is imminent.
I was certain that I would buy an Infininty as soon as it becomes available in the US. Now, for the first time, I think I might wait. A 10 inch tablet with a quad core exynos sounds impressive, and might really give all tegra 3 tabs some serious competiton.
Trade off is a 720p screen and no dock for potentionally much more capable processor. And of course you would have to consider Samsung's lousy track record with software updates. Course there would likely be big potentional for custom firmware, and then there is the S pen stylus thingy which is sort of interesting...
Touch Wizz is a bit of a turn off for me. The exynos, although better in some synthetic benchmarks will probably be no better for day to day use and the lack of 1080p display is a real bummer. I would still go with an Infinity if it were available.
I agree about touchwiz. I hate it with a passion. On my galaxy note phone, the home screen doesn't even rotate to landscape - at least I haven't found a way to make it do so.
I disagree about exynos however. You can't judge a processor that hasn't been released and benchmarked yet (however synthetically) or tested in real world use.
Everyone touted the Tegra 2 as being the best thing since sliced bread, well before it was released, and same with the Tegra 3
Both have been less than perfect in actual practice. I think I will wait and see. Also remember Samsung is responsible for some very impressive displays - the retina display of the ipad 3, and the amoled screen of the tab 7.7 and excite 7.7 for example. The display of this tab might be quite good. Won't know until its available.
Also, I'll bet a quad core exynos pushing a 720p screen will be blazing fast compared to a Tegra 3 trying to push a 1080p screen..
Honestly, if just the web browsing were smooth it would be a major improvement!
Sounds like a great unit. Shame indeed it doesn't have the battery-powered dock. I want the best of both worlds!
I was considering the Note, but it hasn't got a HD screen and to be honest the keyboard dock clinches it for me...
Will need to see the screen resolution before assessing if this really is a competitor to the TF700.
If you don't know that tf700 holds the benchmark for the best CPU, you shouldn't be talking , it uses Tegra 3 t33 which is the best as far as cpu's and gpu's go and if you guys knew a single thing not the CPU pushes the pixels but the GPU in which case the exynos has a very slight advantage because of the lower resolution screen but Samsung will use the cheap plastic back, and worse back camera, and ****ty updates, sure the infinity has some I/o problems but mine hardly lags, sure it's inconsistent but, but it can be fixed.. sorry no go for samsung
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Touch Wizz is a bit of a turn off for me. The exynos, although better in some synthetic benchmarks will probably be no better for day to day use and the lack of 1080p display is a real bummer. I would still go with an Infinity if it were available.
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Wrong wrong wrong... the exynos is slightly behind t33
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If you don't know that tf700 holds the benchmark for the best CPU, you shouldn't be talking , it uses Tegra 3 t33 which is the best as far as cpu's and gpu's go and if you guys knew a single thing not the CPU pushes the pixels but the GPU in which case the exynos has a very slight advantage because of the lower resolution screen but Samsung will use the cheap plastic back, and worse back camera, and ****ty updates, sure the infinity has some I/o problems but mine hardly lags, sure it's inconsistent but, but it can be fixed.. sorry no go for samsung
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All the benchmarks point that the Exynos found on the GS3 its more powerful than the Tegra 3 T30 wich is almost the same as the Tegra 3 T33 found on the new infinity. I don't think the Tegra 3 will be powerful enough to handle such a big screen resolution.
Here is the chart for GPU performance.
as you can see the new exynos is much powerful than the Tegra 3.
Don't go with a Tegra 3 full hd screen tablet. Wait for a better GPU
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Wrong wrong wrong... the exynos is slightly behind t33
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Is it, that's great to hear! I was going by the T30 vs the Exynos quad core not the T33
Best advice though, feel them both if you can, find out which feels best and has the best experience. I doubt the T33 is too weak for the 1080p display as it is still a very up to date CPU. You have Samsung crappy build quality vs aluminium and a little plastic on the TFI, for me thats a winner.
if this had a better screen and USB port, i'd consider it. If the Toshiba Excite 10, took a micro sd card ( i already purchased a couple of 64gb micro cards) and had a USB port, i'd consider that too. Damn you Asus for making something that has everything i need, but then making these mistakes.
I'd strongly consider it if it had a high DPI screen. As is, its not an option for me. Still picking up a TF700 in a week when it launches.
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All the benchmarks point that the Exynos found on the GS3 its more powerful than the Tegra 3 T30 wich is almost the same as the Tegra 3 T33 found on the new infinity. I don't think the Tegra 3 will be powerful enough to handle such a big screen resolution.
Here is the chart for GPU performance.
as you can see the new exynos is much powerful than the Tegra 3.
Don't go with a Tegra 3 full hd screen tablet. Wait for a better GPU
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geforceulp is powerfull enough despite it being a little slower that mali 400, but you cant deny that cpu is superior to exynos quad
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All the benchmarks point that the Exynos found on the GS3 its more powerful than the Tegra 3 T30 wich is almost the same as the Tegra 3 T33 found on the new infinity. I don't think the Tegra 3 will be powerful enough to handle such a big screen resolution.
Here is the chart for GPU performance.
as you can see the new exynos is much powerful than the Tegra 3.
Don't go with a Tegra 3 full hd screen tablet. Wait for a better GPU
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besides jelly bean is around the corner for the infinity so performance wont be an issue and btw i can run dead trigger without an issue, and it is optimized for 1920x1200
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geforceulp is powerfull enough despite it being a little slower that mali 400, but you cant deny that cpu is superior to exynos quad
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Thanks for the benchmark results. Actually, could you tell me if you always get a similar result? And what governor and power mode were these done on? (performance?)
My results tend to vary, in various benchmarks too.
Does anyone know how much better the SPen is compared to a regular capacitive stylus. I know it has the pressure sensitivity and all, but can it compare to a Wacom Bamboo in the slightest?
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Does anyone know how much better the SPen is compared to a regular capacitive stylus. I know it has the pressure sensitivity and all, but can it compare to a Wacom Bamboo in the slightest?
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AFAIK its main strength is being used with Samsung's "Note" devices because of the induction technology, otherwise it won't give better results.
It seems to bounce around 12000 on antutu, 4800 on quadrant and 1500 they're not always constant and I did it on balanced and I seem to get better results than performance
Could you post some of your benchmark results ?
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It seems to bounce around 12000 on antutu, 4800 on quadrant and 1500 they're not always constant and I did it on balanced and I seem to get better results than performance
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Interesting. I get all sorts of results. Maybe less varied with sio. Probably something faulty about my device, but it runs ok apart from that. I'd still prefer the Krait.
Could you post some of your benchmark results ?
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Sure, first thing tomorrow [I'm on low battery now ;>]
So are you running the "interactive" CPU governor? (+ sio or noop?)
What are your LinPack scores? Are they consistent?
My last result in AnTuTu was 12219, but these were done in performance mode + with performance governor and I remember getting as low as 4xxx in balanced mode with noop.
The difference is amazing. How come the TF300 is smoother when it comes to browsing/switching apps and in some games like Lets Golf 3 compare to the TF700 ?
Both tablets are running latest updates.
Any tips ? Thanks
Maybe because the TF300 has less than half the pixels of the TF700?
I noticed my Tf700 was extremely slow until I flashed Cleanrom 2.3. Now it's fine. I think Asus might have been a little lazy when creating the TF700. I feel like all they did was address the GPS/WIFI problem on the prime and add slightly clocked up processor. These minor modifications definitely can't support the high resolution screen and for some reason the Infinity has some memory speed problems, which can be fixed by flashing Cleanrom 2.3
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Maybe because the TF300 has less than half the pixels of the TF700?
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Isnt the faster processor suppose to compensate for this ?
Not necessarily. The faster processor is the same processor, just the clock speed is higher, which doesnt really make too big of a difference. The gpu is the same and memory speeds really lack. Asus really didnt do well optimizing this tablets software to its specs
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No idea what your talking about. My sisters tf300 is a snail compared to my tf700. Something is wrong with your infinity...
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If you have a chance, you should try to use the tf300 for a more extended period of time (I assume your experience with the tf300 was a few minutes at some computer shop). The tf300 I have tried at the shops are always really fast, my guess would be they are in factory condition, no 3rd party apps to slow things down. Since the screen on the tf300 has a much lower resolution, I believe it should be a very fast tablet. A fair comparison can only be made by those you have spent a substantial amount of time with both tablets.
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Isnt the faster processor suppose to compensate for this ?
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It's much less than twice as fast:
Tegra T30L (TF300): 1.2 GHz CPU (1.3 on 1 core), 416 MHz GPU
Tegra T33 (TF700): 1.6 GHz CPU (1.7 on 1 core), 520 MHz GPU
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No idea what your talking about. My sisters tf300 is a snail compared to my tf700. Something is wrong with your infinity...
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I tried another one this morning and it is as slow as mine.
Pretty lame tablet IMO
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If you have a chance, you should try to use the tf300 for a more extended period of time (I assume your experience with the tf300 was a few minutes at some computer shop). The tf300 I have tried at the shops are always really fast, my guess would be they are in factory condition, no 3rd party apps to slow things down. Since the screen on the tf300 has a much lower resolution, I believe it should be a very fast tablet. A fair comparison can only be made by those you have spent a substantial amount of time with both tablets.
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I own both. You shouldnt assume...
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It's much less than twice as fast:
Tegra T30L (TF300): 1.2 GHz CPU (1.3 on 1 core), 416 MHz GPU
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tx, that explain why it is so slow...
1920x1280 is way too much for this combo
Ok a bit slugish, but what a screen. I like the resolution a lot.
Since I flashed cleanrom 2.3 plus Clemsyn's universal kernel my tf700 flies. quadrant score before (4700) after (6172). All I can say is WOW. update quad now(6231) rom must be settling down.
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I noticed my Tf700 was extremely slow until I flashed Cleanrom 2.3. Now it's fine. I think Asus might have been a little lazy when creating the TF700. I feel like all they did was address the GPS/WIFI problem on the prime and add slightly clocked up processor. These minor modifications definitely can't support the high resolution screen and for some reason the Infinity has some memory speed problems, which can be fixed by flashing Cleanrom 2.3
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Im in the same boat, now on clean rom 2.4 and wow super fast. I have both 300 and 700 and finally the tf700 is going to be the one i pick up more often, its just a shame asus could not h ave done this out of the box.
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The only thing that kept this device from being a better device was the GPU not designed to support the 1080p for pushing anything efficiently except video.
Surprised there has not been an update yet with a better GPU and memory channel efficiency. Seems the newer Qualcomm chips woud work great if the wait is Tegra 4 mass availability, which is being allocated first to Nvidia's Shield.
I suspect the Infinity hasn't sold enough to warrant them making a new one. Their cheaper devices including the nexus 7 have done much better.
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Surprised there has not been an update yet
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The TF700 is not even one year old, and most other tablets still have crappy 1280*800 screens.
The only current device that looks interesting is the Sony Xperia Tablet Z - with a Snapdragon S4 Pro and 2 GB RAM, the same 1920*1200 screen resolution as our Infinity, thin and light, and even waterproof. No "transformer" dock though.
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I suspect the Infinity hasn't sold enough to warrant them making a new one. Their cheaper devices including the nexus 7 have done much better.
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I think you may be right. The Infinity was a bit pricey, but I don't regret for a second going for it instead of a lower-res tablet. And the Nexus 7 is a great piece of hardware, but as I was looking into a laptop replacement, it wouldn't have been a choice (too small a screen, no dock, even if there are external keyboards available).
Maybe they'll make another premium device in a year or so. With Tegra 4 or some other latest-gen SoC. And maybe I'll be wanting to upgrade then. If one were to come out right now, it would be way too soon for me
That's because the hardware isn't outdated yet.
There are only 2 or 3 other Full HD screens (1280x800 is not Full HD. 1080 and above is.) out there. Barely any competition. (Apple doesn't count.)
There are no new advancements in terms of displays (meaning the change from LCD to LED.)
There is no Tegra 4 yet.
There is no significant improvement in battery.
There are no 128GB internal drives.
There are no other dock-intergrated devices out there that aren't Asus; and the W8 versions are a step back, not forward. (you can't set it on your lap.)
There have been no extreme camera improvements to warrant a new device.
So what would a new version add? The only thing it could change would be to add another GB of RAM, a different storage because of the I/O issues, an even higher resolution which will cause even more lag, and a Snapdragon, which won't happen as Transformers have always used Tegra.
So there is nothing to really improve on; Asus isn't officially acknowledging the I/O issues.
Agreed on the Sony. I have a TF300 32gb with dock and iPad 4 128gb. The iPad is a lot faster device and better battery life (even when counting the dock), but love the emulator options and easier file transfer on the TF300.
Next tab will be 1080p Android.
I think they re-tooled for the Win8 devices for a bit as well so they probably are busy with that.
I would guess that they are waiting for Tegra 4 to enter mass production. I would love to see a Snapdragon 800 tablet though.