Don't let your family members upgrade their devices Even though we were grandfathered in by pre-ordering, it only takes one bad apple to ruin it for everyone!
I asked a CSR and was told that upgrading one device on the family plan kicks ALL phones with unlimited into the new ****ty plans. :/
False information- see http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/faqs/Calling Plans/share_everything.html
Thanks for the heads up. I had been wondering about that too. The Csr I spoke with once said that's not the case but she sounded really unsure I could hardly trust her
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This is untrue. You only lose your unlimited data if the plan is changed to Share Everything. You can still upgrade phones, you just have make sure you keep your current plan.
I was told 2 days ago when i upgraded to the s3 that if you use your 2 year upgrade on your line you'll lose unlimited. But if you use another lines upgrade then switch the phone to your line youll keep unlimited.
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Family plans operate as one plan with just individual lines. If you upgrade one of the lines it affects the whole plan. This is pretty obvious by when you go to the Verizon website and look under Plans you only see two options now: Share Everything and Prepaid. You can try working with a CSR to see if they will get you a deal but chances are if you buy a phone at a 2-year price they will require you to change your plan. In the past when I've gotten a new phone if the plan I was on was no longer available they would inform me that I would need to change to a more current plan.
One option to try is to ask if there are any customer loyalty plans. Verizon has plans they don't advertise for customers looking to keep a low bill but remain with Verizon. Example: $25/month for 100 minutes with no nights & weekends or in-network calling versus the $40 for the base minute plan. There is a family share plan that is only 450 minutes shared, instead of the 700 on the base plan, and priced at 49.99 instead of 59.99. HOWEVER these were prior to share everything so I have no idea if they even still exist post Share Everything. If you've been a customer for a few years it's worth asking.
I did speak with a CSR who told me that if you have any discounts on your current plan they will now come off the top of the total bill. So instead of it being 15% off the base line it will now be 15% off $100 (40+60).
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This is untrue. You only lose your unlimited data if the plan is changed to Share Everything. You can still upgrade phones, you just have make sure you keep your current plan.
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False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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Then tell me how my brother used his upgrade on our family share plan and i kept my unlimited data? This was done on the first week of july.
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False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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False. I've done this personally and maintained unlimited data and my old share plan. If you don't believe me, I'll happily show you screenshots from my account page.
droidstyle said:
Then tell me how my brother used his upgrade on our family share plan and i kept my unlimited data? This was done on the first week of july.
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When was the phone purchased? It's also possible the in-store rep had no idea of the plan changes.
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This is untrue. You only lose your unlimited data if the plan is changed to Share Everything. You can still upgrade phones, you just have make sure you keep your current plan.
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Exactly what i was told and did!
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False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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Anyone that tells you that is full of it. Upgrading a line does NOT impact the others on the plan. Even if a line has a dumbphone, they can upgrade to a smartphone and still choose from the 2, 5 or 10GB line based tiered data plans without messing with the others.
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When was the phone purchased? It's also possible the in-store rep had no idea of the plan changes.
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The first week of july lol
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False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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False, my sister upgraded to an iphone from a dumb phone after I had preordered my gs3. I made sure she knew to deny the share everything plan, and instead upgrade to a standalone 2gb/$30 data plan.
See 6,7, and 15 :good:
http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/faqs/Calling Plans/share_everything.html
*EDIT* The CSRs WILL definitely push you to the share everything plan. Someone who isn't in the know will probably not even understand that they do NOT have to switch to Share Everything.
i still have my unlimited data
Kreeker said:
False, my sister upgraded to an iphone from a dumb phone after I had preordered my gs3. I made sure she knew to deny the share everything plan, and instead upgrade to a standalone 2gb/$30 data plan.
See 6,7, and 15 :good:
http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/faqs/Calling Plans/share_everything.html
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Exactly...i was also told that in december when my line is elidgeable for a upgrade i can use it on my wifes line and buy a seperate data plan. The forums are almost as bad as the media....**** gets blown way out of proportion.
Just going to go ahead and post these and the end all be all. The first picture shows the main line(mine), notice the old share plan and unlimited data. Second picture shows the line I used to upgrade, notice the end date. Now, the rep at the store most definitely tried to push me onto a Share Everything(telling me the benefits, etc.), but with a couple stern "No, thank you"s, he dropped it.
Good to know. Based on the info they released they made it seem like you had to change if you were upgrading a phone but I guess that must be limited to non-family plans. I wonder if I can get them to give me an upgrade now instead of december
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This is exactly opposite of the way things work.
If there was a plan change requirement, the rep would be forced to implement it via the computer system, as it would explicitly disallow (if it even showed it) the use of an ineligible plan.
The idea that a rep missed the meeting saying "Everyone who upgrades anything goes on shared data and takes the entire plan with them!" and simply didn't enter it into the system at the time of purchase is simply laughable.
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Good to know. Based on the info they released they made it seem like you had to change if you were upgrading a phone but I guess that must be limited to non-family plans. I wonder if I can get them to give me an upgrade now instead of december
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well ya...vzw reps are no different than a car salesman...Do you honestly think a rep is going to say "hey stick with our old plan, the new one sucks" lmao!
I take it back. That's what you get for listening to CSR's. I'm glad to see verizon takes pride with training the people who represent them.
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lookie lookie
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/21/verizons-tiered-data-plans-wont-affect-grandfathered-customers/
Very nice.
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That's awesome news.
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So what happens to people on a Family Plan? I recently upgraded to a Thunderbolt. However, my sister's phone (on my account) is not a smartphone.
Will all the lines on my account be able to get the upgrade unlimited price, or just those which are smartphones at the time they issue the new tiering prices?
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So what happens to people on a Family Plan? I recently upgraded to a Thunderbolt. However, my sister's phone (on my account) is not a smartphone.
Will all the lines on my account be able to get the upgrade unlimited price, or just those which are smartphones at the time they issue the new tiering prices?
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if you have the family share plan, the secondary line being changed shouldn't require any changes, since the way the plan is billed is a majority is billed to the primary line, all of the features and services are billed to that line. the secondary lines pay $9.99 for access to that family plan the primary line has. idk how data plans work on family share plans anymore. on my plan, each data plan is billed separately.
do they offer a family plan that includes shared data now? it's been awhile since i've had anything than a smartphone on any of my lines so it never comes up.
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if you have the family share plan, the secondary line being changed shouldn't require any changes, since the way the plan is billed is a majority is billed to the primary line, all of the features and services are billed to that line. the secondary lines pay $9.99 for access to that family plan the primary line has. idk how data plans work on family share plans anymore. on my plan, each data plan is billed separately.
do they offer a family plan that includes shared data now? it's been awhile since i've had anything than a smartphone on any of my lines so it never comes up.
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They don't offer shared data, yet. It's supposed to be coming soon though.
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lookie lookie
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/21/verizons-tiered-data-plans-wont-affect-grandfathered-customers/
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I've been with Verizon since before they were Verizon. They've always grandfathered my plans even when I re-upped. I never had any doubt, but it just isn't worth arguing with those who are sure Verizon is gonna screw them. I'm sure it won't take long before somebody comes along declaring that's a false document.
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I've been with Verizon since before they were Verizon. They've always grandfathered my plans even when I re-upped. I never had any doubt, but it just isn't worth arguing with those who are sure Verizon is gonna screw them. I'm sure it won't take long before somebody comes along declaring that's a false document.
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THANK YOU. Someone finally gets it.
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I've been with Verizon since before they were Verizon. They've always grandfathered my plans even when I re-upped. I never had any doubt, but it just isn't worth arguing with those who are sure Verizon is gonna screw them. I'm sure it won't take long before somebody comes along declaring that's a false document.
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I have, and know people who have been grandfathered in from plans they had before they were even on Alltel and haven't had problems yet. That doesn't mean that I'm not worried this will change because Verizon has been making a lot of changes to screw over consumers lately, I wouldn't put it pass them to keep the ball rolling by no longer honoring the grandfathered plans and pricing.
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it just isn't worth arguing with those who are sure Verizon is gonna screw them. I'm sure it won't take long before somebody comes along
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I have, and know people who have been grandfathered in from plans they had before they were even on Alltel and haven't had problems yet. That doesn't mean that I'm not worried this will change because Verizon has been making a lot of changes to screw over consumers lately, I wouldn't put it pass them to keep the ball rolling by no longer honoring the grandfathered plans and pricing.
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Twenty-five minutes. Even quicker than I expected.
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Twenty-five minutes. Even quicker than I expected.
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There's just no way to win here
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Good thing I switched back from AT&T when I did! Splurged on my daughter and let her get data - she used 2GB last month, and is already up to 5GB this month.
Hate to say I told ya so, but I told ya so.
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Twenty-five minutes. Even quicker than I expected.
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You act like you know exactly what they are going to do, and unless your high enough up in Verizon to make the decision you don't know. All I'm saying is that they have always grandfathered to this point, and hope they continue to do so, but they have been changing a lot of their policies lately which screw over their customers and I hope the grandfather policy isn't the next in line to get the axe.
What have they changed aside from data?
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What have they changed aside from data?
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Two huge things they changed were NE2 and 1 year contracts. They said they got rid of 1 year contracts to "help the consumers with a difficult choice" haha
Robertjm said:
So what happens to people on a Family Plan? I recently upgraded to a Thunderbolt. However, my sister's phone (on my account) is not a smartphone.
Will all the lines on my account be able to get the upgrade unlimited price, or just those which are smartphones at the time they issue the new tiering prices?
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I was wondering the same. When you change/upgrade secondary phones VZ gives you a list of options to add. Today you can choose a smartphone and the unlimited plan for your secondary phone. Not sure what happens after 7/7. I hope they will allow family plan participants to share data as they do minutes. Haven't seen any indication of that in recent batch of rumors.
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Two huge things they changed were NE2 and 1 year contracts. They said they got rid of 1 year contracts to "help the consumers with a difficult choice" haha
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Yea, as in the difficult choice between vasoline an ky
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You act like you know exactly what they are going to do, and unless your high enough up in Verizon to make the decision you don't know. All I'm saying is that they have always grandfathered to this point, and hope they continue to do so, but they have been changing a lot of their policies lately which screw over their customers and I hope the grandfather policy isn't the next in line to get the axe.
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You're right, I don't know beyond a shadow of a doubt what they will or won't do. I do know what they've done over the last 15 years that I've been a customer. It just irritates me a little when people start complaining about something they're sure is going to happen, even when there's no compelling reason to believe it will.Verizon has grandfathered their plans for as long as they've been Verizon. As far as them making changes that "screw over their customers", I'm sure you've noticed that the economy is in the toidey and even big companies have had to make changes so they can keep their doors open. Verizon is certainly no different in that respect. If/when Verizon turns the light switch off on us current customers, feel free to say "I told you so". Until then, why get all in a huff about something that hasn't happened? I think they call that being a "doomsday sayer". Why go there?
I just placed an order with Verizon online and was able to keep my unlimited data plan while upgrading to the note 3. I verified with 611 that as long as the system allows it. I will be able to keep it. The Order confirmation shows it and also I saved the chat with another rep saying they are running a promo that is allowing people to keep their unlimited data.
can you please elaborate on that ?
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I just placed an order with Verizon online and was able to keep my unlimited data plan while upgrading to the note 3. I verified with 611 that as long as the system allows it. I will be able to keep it. The Order confirmation shows it and also I saved the chat with another rep saying they are running a promo that is allowing people to keep their unlimited data.
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I would do this right now !
jmichaels1982 said:
I would do this right now !
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Check out Droid-Life, they actually just posted a story on it.
It seems legit.
Too bad I'd never put another Verizon ball and chain on my ankle ever again.
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I would do this right now !
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I just went online and went through the upgrade process. I know it use to strip it and force you to a new plan but right now its allowing you to keep it. I actually find it interesting that they would allow this considering VZW just made comments about unlimited data being dead.
I just canceled my preorder for the phone alone at full price. I went online and upgraded for the note 3 and gear bundle for less than the phone retail and was able to keep my unlimited.:laugh::laugh::laugh: I kept printouts of it all.
OMG Thank you!
Just cancelled my pre-order and upgraded my line
does this mean your 2yr contract has to be up first or
I can just buy the phone outright @ contract price right if I have an existing contract and keep unlimited data ?
FYI,
I did this successfully last night, and when I talked to a CSR this morning trying to cancel my first pre-order, they told me that I would lose my unlimited data anyway, because it was just a glitch in the system that they were trying to figure out.
They did confirm to me that I could return it and revert back to unlimited data and just buy the N3 outright, as I had planned to do all along, so it's not a big deal.
I'm just saying don't cry if it doesn't work in the end.
Remember, this is Verizon we're talking about. They have no qualms about screwing us over, "contract" or no "contract".
I'm thinking about canceling my preorder to reorder on my account. At the moment i have the Note preordered on my mother-in-laws business account (to be activated on one of her lines, but then I’ll take it). That was the safest way I couldnt think to keep my unlimited. Not sure if i want to risk it
Confident Verizon will keep their end just like they haven't throttled unlimited data like AT&T has. This makes it easier than paying full price which I did for my current Note 2.
It's already been stated a few times that it might change once you activate your device. So be careful... it may lock you in to two years without your unlimited data...
This is coming from Verizon btw.
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Confident Verizon will keep their end just like they haven't throttled unlimited data like AT&T has.
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They haven't throttled because it is illegal for them to do so. The LTE spectrum they bought came with that caveat, and if they throttle LTE, they are in violation of federal law. They throttle 3G all the time because they can.
Rest assured, Verizon will not honor this. They don't care about me or you, and they could care less if we ditch them and run to T-Mobile or wherever else. All they care about is expanding their network and releasing their crappy droids.
I'm canceling my glitch order and going with the original pre-order that I thankfully never canceled.
I know Verizon too well to think this will work out.
Verizon sucks, they have atrocious business practices, and that's not going to change. Don't be fooled.
I would like to think Verizon would honor this. But since they are all about squeezing the last penny out of customers this will be my last straw with VZW.
Even United who gave away free tickets from a glitch honored it.
VZW isn't losing any money on doing this.
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I would like to think Verizon would honor this. But since they are all about squeezing the last penny out of customers this will be my last straw with VZW.
Even United who gave away free tickets from a glitch honored it.
VZW isn't losing any money on doing this.
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I too am almost done with Verizon. Have ordered a Note 3 from TMo to see what my coverage may be in and around Houston as compared to Verizon. I don't expect it to be as good but I'm not looking for that anyway. I'll compare it with the unlimited upgrade I did for the Note 3 this weekend from Verizon or my G4 if the Note falls through. If all goes well, I'll sell my three lines of unlimited, return or sells phones as appropriate and move over to TMo. Verizon just has too much arrogance IMHO.
I upgraded to a gn3 and was able to keep my unlimited data on AT&T. I read somewhere Verizon had a glitch in their oline system that allowed some people to upgrade and retain their unlimited data but they have since corrected it and that the people that were able to retain their unlimited will probably loose it anyways.
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I too am almost done with Verizon. Have ordered a Note 3 from TMo to see what my coverage may be in and around Houston as compared to Verizon. I don't expect it to be as good but I'm not looking for that anyway. I'll compare it with the unlimited upgrade I did for the Note 3 this weekend from Verizon or my G4 if the Note falls through. If all goes well, I'll sell my three lines of unlimited, return or sells phones as appropriate and move over to TMo. Verizon just has too much arrogance IMHO.
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If you decide to sell your unlimited data line on Verizon, please shoot me a PM and I will take it off your hands.
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VZWSupport on twitter just said they will automatically put you in a current plan and won't honor the "glitch". Which apparently is happening again.
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VZWSupport on twitter just said they will automatically put you in a current plan and won't honor the "glitch". Which apparently is happening again.
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I don't see this on VZWSupport, direct link?
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I don't see this on VZWSupport, direct link?
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https://twitter.com/VZWSupport/status/384681847533232129
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I don't see this on VZWSupport, direct link?
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At work so I can't get to post images, but search for "Light Aeterna" on Twitter, that's who VZW replied to with the news.
Upgraded my S3 today to a S4 and I was still able to keep my Unlimited Data, thanks to the clever workings of the rep at Costco.
Since I still have a regular line on my account, he was able to do some switching around with the lines and keep my data plan intact
According to him Costco does what they can do to keep the customer happy.
BestBuy and Verizon could not do anything for me.
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Upgraded my S3 today to a S4 and I was still able to keep my Unlimited Data, thanks to the clever workings of the rep at Costco.
Since I still have a regular line on my account, he was able to do some switching around with the lines and keep my data plan intact
According to him Costco does what they can do to keep the customer happy.
BestBuy and Verizon could not do anything for me.
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Just curious, did you have more than one line to begin with, and were you still in contract (if so, how long was left)? When upgrading time comes around I don't want to lose my unlimited either.
That makes sense... Costco is a retailer, so if they want to sell you the device @ a discounted price, they can... and from the sounds of things, WILL. Costco will do anything for members and this sounds like a rad deal!
You'll never get that kind of deal from VZ directly. I have unlimited too and bought my S3 of ebay to avoid losing my data.
Shhhh!!! And its very possible to do this directly through Verizon if you take the self service route.
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Just curious, did you have more than one line to begin with, and were you still in contract (if so, how long was left)? When upgrading time comes around I don't want to lose my unlimited either.
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I have 2 data lines and one non data (regular phone) on my account, that is how costco was able to keep my data intact. without the reg line I dont think they would of been able to keep the data unlimited.
Not sure how much time I had on my contract
So I have an none smart phone on my plan that is eligible for an upgrade. If I upgrade my phone with that to keep unlimited data do I have to keep the none smart phone on my data plan and pay the extra $9. Our can I take it off after I upgrade mine with it to keep unlimited.
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verizon and unlimited data
mosfet356 said:
So I have an none smart phone on my plan that is eligible for an upgrade. If I upgrade my phone with that to keep unlimited data do I have to keep the none smart phone on my data plan and pay the extra $9. Our can I take it off after I upgrade mine with it to keep unlimited.
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If you renew your contract in any way shape or form you will lose your unlimited data.
An upgrade means you can sign a contract to get a phone subsidized. An upgrade is not a courtesy or a freebie, the word is misleading. An upgrade eligibility simply means Verizon or whatever carrier will let you sign a contract to get a phone on subsidy. Use it and the unlimited goes away.
The only way to maintain unlimited data is to not alter your contracted terms. If you sign a new contract it'll go bye bye.
The only ways to get a new phone without losing your unlimited data is to acquire a phone without putting your line with unlimited in contract. There are many ways to do this, none of which I spell out in detail.
If you search ebay you can purchase unlimited data for around $150-200 off people selling it.
It greatly depends on where you go. I recently found a great third party Verizon retailer with a system which still allows people to keep unlimited data. I believe it has to do with the insurance they go through. Corporate and Best Buy go through assurion which absolutely cannot in any shape or form allow you to keep unlimited data.
Other systems do have workarounds and some people are willing to oblige. Just recently I let my brother use my upgrade (my line is unlimited, his is tiered) but every location I asked said it was impossible for him to take my upgrade and let me keep my unlimited data. Well, here I am now still rocking unlimited data with a 2 year contract extension.
The third party location I found was great to us and even offered to help my mom keep unlimited data using a subsidized upgrade using a "musical phones" method.
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If you renew your contract in any way shape or form you will lose your unlimited data.
An upgrade means you can sign a contract to get a phone subsidized. An upgrade is not a courtesy or a freebie, the word is misleading. An upgrade eligibility simply means Verizon or whatever carrier will let you sign a contract to get a phone on subsidy. Use it and the unlimited goes away.
The only way to maintain unlimited data is to not alter your contracted terms. If you sign a new contract it'll go bye bye.
The only ways to get a new phone without losing your unlimited data is to acquire a phone without putting your line with unlimited in contract. There are many ways to do this, none of which I spell out in detail.
If you search ebay you can purchase unlimited data for around $150-200 off people selling it.
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That's simply not true as long as you don't take the upgrade on the number that has the unlimited data you can upgrade on any of the others that don't and it does not affect the unlimited line at all
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That's simply not true as long as you don't take the upgrade on the number that has the unlimited data you can upgrade on any of the others that don't and it does not affect the unlimited line at all
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The most basic way, of which I have personally used myself, is to have a basic phone attached to your [insert service provider here] service contract. Whenever you have an upgrade for your smartphone line, swap it to the basic phone, then upgrade through that "dumb" phone. Once you receive the new smartphone, activate it on your smartphone account, and reactivate the basic phone on its original line. Voila.
Edit: I am sure there are other methods which may be more effective (not have to pay for a secondary basic phone), however this one has worked for me (and others). Your call as to how you will proceed...
Don't forget the new $30 upgrade fee on Verizon.
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That's simply not true as long as you don't take the upgrade on the number that has the unlimited data you can upgrade on any of the others that don't and it does not affect the unlimited line at all
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You're 100% correct!
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That's simply not true as long as you don't take the upgrade on the number that has the unlimited data you can upgrade on any of the others that don't and it does not affect the unlimited line at all
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Correct. I went into detail with a manager at a VZ store once and he told me you can change anything on your account, like minutes or text, which will not affect your unlimited data. Once you upgrade your phone and get that subsidized price, you lose the data and go on a new 'share everything' package.
You can, however, transfer an account/number to someone and they'll keep unlimited data... so if you have an extra line on your account with unlimited data, you can sign a release of liability over to that person and they will have the line/account exactly as it was on your account, because you're just moving the line from one owner to another. I did this in June with my ex.
Maybe that's what the people on eBay are doing... it's shifty and I'd try to avoid it, though.
This can also work through verizon.
Just talked to a clerk online and told her exactly what I wanted to do and she helped me through the whole process. All you need to do is switch your upgrade to another line with data, renew their contract by buying the phone, from there you can either chose pick up phone in-store or have them ship it to you. Once you get it just activate the phone on your line and your good to go.
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That's simply not true as long as you don't take the upgrade on the number that has the unlimited data you can upgrade on any of the others that don't and it does not affect the unlimited line at all
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I can attest to this. Just upgraded my wifes phone today. I have unlimited data and she does not. We went to the Verizon store and they kept the plan the same.
What we did was use the upgrade on another line and then just swap the sim cards when we got home and it worked fine.
I used the upgrade on a dumb phone on my account. When I get the S4 Can I just put my SIM card in it and activate it without having to call Verizon again?
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What we did was use the upgrade on another line and then just swap the sim cards when we got home and it worked fine.
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Verizon has sim cards?
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This wouldn't really make sense to someone who doesn't already have a spare data line.. Regardless your still paying for 2 lines, if you cancel there is a hefty fee that goes with it.. If you don't already have a spare data line itd be a better idea just to buy a phone at retail price.. Wouldn't it?
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4g phones do.
And we have separate lines because we're on a family plan.
I've been with Verizon before there were smartphones when they came out jumped on and got one, I always had unlimited Data on my phone and my wives, last year when I upgraded I was told I couldn't get the unlimited plan but reading on this and many forums people are still getting unlimited plans, I just don't understand how some are still getting unlimited data, I even called Verizon customer service they told me they no longer offer unlimited data
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I've been with Verizon before there were smartphones when they came out jumped on and got one, I always had unlimited Data on my phone and my wives, last year when I upgraded I was told I couldn't get the unlimited plan but reading on this and many forums people are still getting unlimited plans, I just don't understand how some are still getting unlimited data, I even called Verizon customer service they told me they no longer offer unlimited data
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There are some loopholes, but once you give away unlimited data there is no way to get it back.
A Verizon rep is supposed to tell you that it's no longer available. They also aren't going to tell you the loopholes.
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Loopholes and people like me who preordered the phone a week before they cut off unlimited data.
ThePagel said:
Loopholes and people like me who preordered the phone a week before they cut off unlimited data.
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I actually upgraded when I was supposed to get a 2gb plan, but somehow I didn't get switched over. It was last summer, that wouldn't happen now.
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Got to love falling through the cracks. Lucky!
Or.....buy your phone outright (eBay, etc) and activate on verizonwirless.com. Been month to month for a LOONNNG time and plan to never get a phone any other way.
skeeterpro said:
Or.....buy your phone outright (eBay, etc) and activate on verizonwirless.com. Been month to month for a LOONNNG time and plan to never get a phone any other way.
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Sorry for being dumb...how does this get you unlimited data? This intrigues me but I couldn't see a plan that got you where it sounds like you are.
doncaruana said:
Sorry for being dumb...how does this get you unlimited data? This intrigues me but I couldn't see a plan that got you where it sounds like you are.
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Buying the phone outright is a way to keep an unlimited data plan, not get one. If you were on an unlimited data plan, you could keep it by buying a phone for full retail price through Verizon or buy a phone from somewhere other than Verizon then activate it on your account.
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Well, I just upgraded again last July and as long as i didn't change my plan, I could keep unlimited data.
Keep unlimited
The way I kept my unlimited data plan was by getting my wife a smartphone, using her upgrade for my phone, and getting her a new plan. She had a dumb phone, so when we went to get us both upgrades, her 2 year upgrade was used to get my S3, it was transferred to my account, and her account was setup with the standard 2GB plan. It was a bit of work for the rep, but he was really awesome and did it for us.
From what I heard, this can also work if you add another line to account.
doncaruana said:
Sorry for being dumb...how does this get you unlimited data? This intrigues me but I couldn't see a plan that got you where it sounds like you are.
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Sorry for not being clearer! Sometimes what's in the head doesn't come out the fingers when typing.
I have bought my last 4-5 phones on eBay. Best way I know to KEEP the plan I have.......so far. I'm sure one day, VZW will just say "no mas" and completely rid themselves of the unlimited plan. FWIW I have never gone over 3GB a month but it's more the principle of the thing.
Broke my S3, and would like to upgrade to the Moto X. Unfortunately, I have the unlimited data upgrade. Our family plan has 5 lines. 1 unlimited smart, 1 tiered smart, and 3 dumb phones. I've searched and heard NUMEROUS stories on how to keep unlimited data, and read comments from people about how none of those work. I figured the XDA folks may be a bit more knowledgeable than some other forums, so I'm trying my hand here. I've heard a few different ways to do it:
1. Transfer my upgrade through myverizon to a dumb line and then upgrade. (Verizon alone has given me about 4 different answers on if this would void my UDP)
2. Find a retailer that would work things around and keep my UDP. (Found a guy, verizonchris, on a different site that said he could do this for me most likely, but he needs my billing password. Naturally, Im reluctant to give it out)
3. Transfer upgrade on myverizon, go to a store and get a upgrade voucher for motomaker, then upgrade through motomaker and it will keep my UDP.
I've heard of some others, as I'm sure you guys have, and am really just looking for some sort of verification for this from some smart peeps!
(Sidenote, I'm also going to claim the S3 on Asurion. Does anyone know what Asurion is giving people for broken vzw S3's? Heard a few different things, maybe an upgrade through that would be possible?)
Thanks!
blueice5249 said:
Broke my S3, and would like to upgrade to the Moto X. Unfortunately, I have the unlimited data upgrade. Our family plan has 5 lines. 1 unlimited smart, 1 tiered smart, and 3 dumb phones. I've searched and heard NUMEROUS stories on how to keep unlimited data, and read comments from people about how none of those work. I figured the XDA folks may be a bit more knowledgeable than some other forums, so I'm trying my hand here. I've heard a few different ways to do it:
1. Transfer my upgrade through myverizon to a dumb line and then upgrade. (Verizon alone has given me about 4 different answers on if this would void my UDP)
2. Find a retailer that would work things around and keep my UDP. (Found a guy, verizonchris, on a different site that said he could do this for me most likely, but he needs my billing password. Naturally, Im reluctant to give it out)
3. Transfer upgrade on myverizon, go to a store and get a upgrade voucher for motomaker, then upgrade through motomaker and it will keep my UDP.
Thanks!
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4. Buy the Moto X outright and pop your SIM in.
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4. Buy the Moto X outright and pop your SIM in.
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Thanks, trying to avoid that.
Sounds like you may be overthinking this, or something has changed that I'm not aware of.
You can't do anything with the upgrade available on your unlimited line. If you do, this will most likely reset your line to tiered data.
The upgrade would need to be on the dumb phone line.
You would upgrade that dumb phone's line to the phone you want.
When the phone comes, call up Verizon and activate the new phone on your line.
Double check with Verizon that the data plan will not activate on the dumb phone's line.
Enjoy your new phone with unlimited data! Too bad the person who uses that dumb phone won't have an upgrade for another couple years.
If other lines on the account have upgrades available all you will need to do is update using one of the other updates. The line yoy used for the upgrade will now have a 2gb plan but you don't activate with that line. Just put your SIM in and you will still have your UNLIMITED DATA. Hope this helped.
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MetalMan2 said:
You can't do anything with the upgrade available on your unlimited line. If you do, this will most likely reset your line to tiered data.
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The 'new every two' was discontinued 2 years ago. The reason you get a new subsidized phone price is because you're re-entering into a contract with verizon... so it's like it's a new contract/line. You don't have credits and there's nothing to transfer, but if your contract is up, you can get the 'new' price. Unless you have unlimited data... you do that and they'll move you to a 'share everything' plan.
I've been told Costco will generally eat the cost of the phone, just to sell you one at the 'new' price and get the credit for your business. You keep the unlimited data and Verizon thinks you paid full retail. I can't confirm that plan will work for you, but many here have said that's worked for them.
Personally, I'm in the EDGE program. Pay $16-30/month more for a new device, keep my unlimited data and every 12 months, get to pick a new device. Yes, you're paying $200-360 for the phone, but A- that's not much more than the 'new' price', B- you get to keep unlimited data, C- you get a new phone every 1 year, rather than 2 years with re-entering a contract and D- you were probably going to pay that much for a phone off eBay anyway if you have unlimited data. Dunno if that makes sense for someone with so many lines, but if you keep it to 1-2 lines and really need that data (like I do), then it makes perfect fiscal sense.
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The 'new every two' was discontinued 2 years ago. The reason you get a new subsidized phone price is because you're re-entering into a contract with verizon... so it's like it's a new contract/line. You don't have credits and there's nothing to transfer, but if your contract is up, you can get the 'new' price. Unless you have unlimited data... you do that and they'll move you to a 'share everything' plan.
I've been told Costco will generally eat the cost of the phone, just to sell you one at the 'new' price and get the credit for your business. You keep the unlimited data and Verizon thinks you paid full retail. I can't confirm that plan will work for you, but many here have said that's worked for them.
Personally, I'm in the EDGE program. Pay $16-30/month more for a new device, keep my unlimited data and every 12 months, get to pick a new device. Yes, you're paying $200-360 for the phone, but A- that's not much more than the 'new' price', B- you get to keep unlimited data, C- you get a new phone every 1 year, rather than 2 years with re-entering a contract and D- you were probably going to pay that much for a phone off eBay anyway if you have unlimited data. Dunno if that makes sense for someone with so many lines, but if you keep it to 1-2 lines and really need that data (like I do), then it makes perfect fiscal sense.
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Thanks, I may look into that if I run out of options.
Has anyone ever heard of this working? Seems like a HUGE loophole if it really works.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...nlimited-data-get-phone-subsidized-price.html
blueice5249 said:
Has anyone ever heard of this working? Seems like a HUGE loophole if it really works.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...nlimited-data-get-phone-subsidized-price.html
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That's a huge flaw in Best Buy's system if it works. Because the purchase of the new phone requires a re-entry into contract and VZ specifically has blocks on subsidized phone prices on grandfathered data plans. Not even GMs in Verizon stores can override it... I've tried.
So basically, you're placing a 3rd party order and because Best Buy can't send you a live sim card (only VZ can), you swap it for your current one and VZ is never the wiser. Clever, but tread lightly and quickly.. I can't imagine this flaw will remain open for long.
blueice5249 said:
Broke my S3, and would like to upgrade to the Moto X. Unfortunately, I have the unlimited data upgrade. Our family plan has 5 lines. 1 unlimited smart, 1 tiered smart, and 3 dumb phones. I've searched and heard NUMEROUS stories on how to keep unlimited data, and read comments from people about how none of those work. I figured the XDA folks may be a bit more knowledgeable than some other forums, so I'm trying my hand here. I've heard a few different ways to do it:
1. Transfer my upgrade through myverizon to a dumb line and then upgrade. (Verizon alone has given me about 4 different answers on if this would void my UDP)
Thanks!
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I have done this many times. If the upgrade is on your unlimited data plane line, log into VZ website and transfer it to the tiered smart line. When you phone arrived, call VZ and activate on your unlimited data line.
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I have done this many times. If the upgrade is on your unlimited data plane line, log into VZ website and transfer it to the tiered smart line. When you phone arrived, call VZ and activate on your unlimited data line.
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Ive done this twice as well. I went to the store and did this. They understood what I was doing too. They didn't care. They thought it was smart. Just transfer the upgrade to a dumbline and then upgrade. Then have them activate it under ur unlimited line.
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buhohitr said:
I have done this many times. If the upgrade is on your unlimited data plane line, log into VZ website and transfer it to the tiered smart line. When you phone arrived, call VZ and activate on your unlimited data line.
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Just a quick update for everyone:
I couldn't update because of my talk plan. Since I claimed my broken screen through Asurion, I talked them into making a "one-time" exception and sending me a brand new S4 instead of another S3.
I'm selling the S4 and buying a Moto X. They told me they're in and out of them. I convinced them to send me a new S4 (as a "one time" exception because of my great history).
Im going to sell the S4 and buy a Moto X.
I already convinced Motorola to send me a free case and $50 off coupon. Awesome deal! :victory::victory:
Suck it Verizon!
UNLIMITED FOREVER!! :laugh::highfive:
blueice5249 said:
Just a quick update for everyone:
I couldn't update because of my talk plan. Since I claimed my broken screen through Asurion, I talked them into making a "one-time" exception and sending me a brand new S4 instead of another S3.
I'm selling the S4 and buying a Moto X. They told me they're in and out of them. I convinced them to send me a new S4 (as a "one time" exception because of my great history).
Im going to sell the S4 and buy a Moto X.
I already convinced Motorola to send me a free case and $50 off coupon. Awesome deal! :victory::victory:
Suck it Verizon!
UNLIMITED FOREVER!! :laugh::highfive:
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Nice move! I'm jealous!
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Nice move! I'm jealous!
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Now you'll be really jealous. Since they have that $100 off sale Monday, I conned free Royal Blue earbuds and the anti-glare film out of them! I'm still gonna call back Monday to see what they're doing for the people who just ordered them too lol