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Unlimited 4G ending on Thursday

I just learned tonight that as of Thursday, 3 days from now, 4G data plans will be capped.
The new cap will be 5GB. Pricing overage is not specified just yet, I would assume the standard $10/GB overage.
This is for any NEW customers and any upgrades done AFTER this day. Anyone who already has a TBolt is grandfathered in (myself included). Spread the word, and let your friends/family know should they need a truly unlimited plan.
I would expect an announcement tomorrow sometime. Just wanted to let you guys know.

And the gospel has spoke. I am grandfathered young skywalker.

fillyo said:
And the gospel has spoke. I am grandfathered young skywalker.
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The unlimited data is strong with this one...
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This is the reason I upgraded immediately, even if it required paying full retail

My business rep has also told me that people getting 4G data plans better do it now, before it changes. He did not tell me this Thursday, but his feeling was no more than 30 days after the TB was released. He also told me there's no guarantee anyone on the unlim plans will be grandfathered.

This is what I was afraid of.. glad I JUST got mine lol

I knew the unlimited 4G data wouldn't last until the Droid Bionic. Glad I have my Thunderbolt.

i am in the door but i still am going to sell TB when bionic comes out

rajuabju said:
My business rep has also told me that people getting 4G data plans better do it now, before it changes. He did not tell me this Thursday, but his feeling was no more than 30 days after the TB was released. He also told me there's no guarantee anyone on the unlim plans will be grandfathered.
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There would be lots of trouble for not grandfathering people already up and running on unlimited 4G data plans. If it isn't in the contract they can't suddenly put it into the contract. Additionally as the TB currently offers no built in mechanism to turn off 4G for those who got it under the concept of it having unlimited data would have to be offered the option to return their phones, etc... Seriously it'd be a PR nightmare/huge trouble for VZW to not grandfather people in, its the same reason AT&T did it for people who already had unlimited plans when they moved to a tiered system.

javawolfpack said:
There would be lots of trouble for not grandfathering people already up and running on unlimited 4G data plans. If it isn't in the contract they can't suddenly put it into the contract.
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That was my thought to it also. Cant change my contract just bc they want to. Thats why we have contracts, to lock things in place

So what happens when we want to move onto another 4g device? Are they going to allow us to transfer our 4g plan to the new device and retain our unlimited? I'd imagine since the LTE sim is swappable.. we can probably just pop it into another device and keep unlimited..
Any thoughts?

Wow I just signed up for Verizon today and got the Thunderbolt I signed up for the Unlimited plan looks like its a good thing I did seeing this tonight

So glad I bought my Tbird on release day.
So pissed that Verizon would do this. After the gov't sat on their hands and made them go either unlimited or 5GB (not "5GB unlimited") in years past, their CDMA based data plans have been unlimited ever since. REALLY unlimited. Unless you're in the 95th percentile. Maybe.
But now they're going the way of the greedy [email protected]#[email protected]#%(^#$^$$%#$$ at AT&T? What happened to the carrier that was both reliable-thanks-CDMA and consumer-friendly-thanks-Sprint, in the same package?
Major regression. Very unhappy. I'm glad I have grandfathered, but I wonder if I will be forced over to a 5GB plan in two years when my contract expires.

Can we get some sort of confirmation to this rumor?

I'm glad I became a Verizon customer this past Sunday. I was with T-Mobile till the news broke out. I refuse to give AT&T any of my money!
Anyway, I'm glad I made this move. The Thunderbolt is crazy fast, and I'm very happy with it. Oh, only 1 thing I did hate.... My battery died after 3 hours of being fully charged.

Diversion said:
So what happens when we want to move onto another 4g device? Are they going to allow us to transfer our 4g plan to the new device and retain our unlimited? I'd imagine since the LTE sim is swappable.. we can probably just pop it into another device and keep unlimited..
Any thoughts?
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I'd think that switching devices isn't an issue. Take AT&T they only forced people to tiered if they change out of the unlimited data plan. As their entry level tiered was priced at like $15/mo vs $30 so some people who didn't use much data chose to do that but never could get unlimited again. Also for developers and the like switching between devices for testing on Verizon it seems to require switching a phone ID and activating that device, but I assume with 4G the sim card would only need to be moved? I'm unsure as to how that works, but I'll likely need to move between my TB, which arrives tomorrow, and my Incredible for development purposes. So I'm sure I'll figure out the details soon.
Can we get some sort of confirmation to this rumor?
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I assume until Verizon makes an official statement it'll remain a rumor. Regardless, sooner than I've been hearing. I'd heard tiered by the summer. But suppose a test run for a week might be enough to see what kind of saturation to expect network wise. But think before the bionics release would be a reasonable guess. But well wish it wasn't headed that way. Think the approach of I think sprint just charging an additional $10/mo if you want 4G isn't a bad business model. Plus the users who get these phones and barely use any data would likely offset from those who do...

javawolfpack said:
I'd think that switching devices isn't an issue. Take AT&T they only forced people to tiered if they change out of the unlimited data plan. As their entry level tiered was priced at like $15/mo vs $30 so some people who didn't use much data chose to do that but never could get unlimited again. Also for developers and the like switching between devices for testing on Verizon it seems to require switching a phone ID and activating that device, but I assume with 4G the sim card would only need to be moved? I'm unsure as to how that works, but I'll likely need to move between my TB, which arrives tomorrow, and my Incredible for development purposes. So I'm sure I'll figure out the details soon.
I assume until Verizon makes an official statement it'll remain a rumor. Regardless, sooner than I've been hearing. I'd heard tiered by the summer. But suppose a test run for a week might be enough to see what kind of saturation to expect network wise. But think before the bionics release would be a reasonable guess. But well wish it wasn't headed that way. Think the approach of I think sprint just charging an additional $10/mo if you want 4G isn't a bad business model. Plus the users who get these phones and barely use any data would likely offset from those who do...
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after testing lte i would pay $10 a month more for it.

My Verizon Rep is allowing me to upgrade early, but pay Verizon price for the phone. But my upgrade is the 29th of March. So if I can, I would wait and grab from Amazon. So until some sort of verification somewhere I'll wait. They won't do a surprise change would they?

Philosophre said:
My Verizon Rep is allowing me to upgrade early, but pay Verizon price for the phone. But my upgrade is the 29th of March. So if I can, I would wait and grab from Amazon. So until some sort of verification somewhere I'll wait. They won't do a surprise change would they?
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Don't think for a minute that they won't do a surprise change! The legalese you click / sign through when you're becoming a customer says they can change any part of any of your terms at any time with or without notice, basically they can decide that it's $1,000 per byte and that's just tough luck for you. Of course they would probably get sued for being unreasonable, but you see my point. The act of changing the deal on a dime is not illegal because you agreed to let them.
And if you aren't even a Verizon Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan customer at all right now, they have even less obligation to you, because you aren't a customer, and you have no chance of being grandfathered.

allquixotic said:
Don't think for a minute that they won't do a surprise change! The legalese you click / sign through when you're becoming a customer says they can change any part of any of your terms at any time with or without notice, basically they can decide that it's $1,000 per byte and that's just tough luck for you. Of course they would probably get sued for being unreasonable, but you see my point. The act of changing the deal on a dime is not illegal because you agreed to let them.
And if you aren't even a Verizon Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan customer at all right now, they have even less obligation to you, because you aren't a customer, and you have no chance of being grandfathered.
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this was my understanding. Even if they have a contract with you, they can still change it, but it then gives you an option, you bend over and take the changes, or you can leave with no ETF.
Also if they are not going to grandfather people in, then I will be returning my phone within the 30 days and going with another carrier. I like their coverage and LTE is crazy, but a 5GB cap on internet speeds this fast? you'll be hitting cap in a week.
I am hoping that the whole deal between AT&T and T-Mobile becoming one company makes them change their mind, or at least rethink the data plans.

Gray AT&T H1X on Amazon $129 family upgrade

Just ordered a gray H1X on Amazon as an upgrade on existing family plan for $129. In stock, should ship in 24hrs.

Does it affect data at all? I can't lose my "unlimited" (even if it has limitations).

From what i understand previous data plans can be restored. I'd call at&t to have that confirmed. When i bought the phone the website signed me up for the $30/3GB plan which was ok with me as i'm currently on $25/2GB. But prior to that I had called AT&T to ask about being reverted to prior plan and they said no problem. Call Amazon too because there's also the possibility that even though you can revert to your previous plan via AT&T you may still be subject to $250 ETF from Amazon.

FreddieP said:
From what i understand previous data plans can be restored. I'd call at&t to have that confirmed. When i bought the phone the website signed me up for the $30/3GB plan which was ok with me as i'm currently on $25/2GB. But prior to that I had called AT&T to ask about being reverted to prior plan and they said no problem. Call Amazon too because there's also the possibility that even though you can revert to your previous plan via AT&T you may still be subject to $250 ETF from Amazon.
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So you think. I had the unlimited data and it went to 3GB. I called AT&T to have the Unlimited back, and they said no problem. Then the computer wouldn't let them. 2 hours Late the rep gave up and opened a case which takes 2 weeks.
I might have a Rep who didn't have a clue as to what to do.
A hassle none the less.
If I had bought from AT&T directly, my Unlimited would have automatically transferred over.
Just a thought for some looking to upgrade.
Buying from ATT = grandfathered plan is hassle free
3rd Party = Gotta go through hurdles to get back the old plan.

Yeah its $130 for a new contract too...
tempted to switch from Verizon just because at&t has some phones I really wish I could have like the note, lumia, and obviously ONE X.... but I lose LTE (there isn't at&t lte here right now).

dale_cooper said:
Yeah its $130 for a new contract too...
tempted to switch from Verizon just because at&t has some phones I really wish I could have like the note, lumia, and obviously ONE X.... but I lose LTE (there isn't at&t lte here right now).
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just a suggestion, but depending where you are, HSPA+ might suffice until you get LTE. With this phone in a non-LTE market, I've been getting upwards of 10 Mbps down. Average is around 5-6 Mbps which is fine for me.

dale_cooper said:
Yeah its $130 for a new contract too...
tempted to switch from Verizon just because at&t has some phones I really wish I could have like the note, lumia, and obviously ONE X.... but I lose LTE (there isn't at&t lte here right now).
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In Salt Lake i ran speed test on an in-store phone and saw just over 7mbps on HSPA+. att announced LTE for SLC this year

n19htmare said:
So you think. I had the unlimited data and it went to 3GB. I called AT&T to have the Unlimited back, and they said no problem. Then the computer wouldn't let them. 2 hours Late the rep gave up and opened a case which takes 2 weeks.
I might have a Rep who didn't have a clue as to what to do.
A hassle none the less.
If I had bought from AT&T directly, my Unlimited would have automatically transferred over.
Just a thought for some looking to upgrade.
Buying from ATT = grandfathered plan is hassle free
3rd Party = Gotta go through hurdles to get back the old plan.
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It worked for me. I was expecting a fight. I called to have them notate my accound and told the rep I was recording the call (which I was). I called back a few days after activating the phone (about 2 weeks from the previous call) and, while they claimed they had to open a case and make a request for the change, they did get it changed back within a few days and sent me a text message to confirm.
Tell them you recorded the call and don't let up. They'll do it.
Good luck,
Billy

im going to call them tomorrow to see if i can get the difference ($20) back.
price guarantee
http://wireless.amazon.com/help/200...rd_p=1355900242&pf_rd_t=801&pf_rd_i=200308040

okay so this worked no problem. just to let people know they will only do thie price guarantee once (so hopefully it doesnt drop more)
edit: strange but this is also only on the grey model

not a bad price!

[VERIZON] rip unlimited data holders

Don't let your family members upgrade their devices Even though we were grandfathered in by pre-ordering, it only takes one bad apple to ruin it for everyone!
I asked a CSR and was told that upgrading one device on the family plan kicks ALL phones with unlimited into the new ****ty plans. :/
False information- see http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/faqs/Calling Plans/share_everything.html

Thanks for the heads up. I had been wondering about that too. The Csr I spoke with once said that's not the case but she sounded really unsure I could hardly trust her
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This is untrue. You only lose your unlimited data if the plan is changed to Share Everything. You can still upgrade phones, you just have make sure you keep your current plan.

I was told 2 days ago when i upgraded to the s3 that if you use your 2 year upgrade on your line you'll lose unlimited. But if you use another lines upgrade then switch the phone to your line youll keep unlimited.
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Family plans operate as one plan with just individual lines. If you upgrade one of the lines it affects the whole plan. This is pretty obvious by when you go to the Verizon website and look under Plans you only see two options now: Share Everything and Prepaid. You can try working with a CSR to see if they will get you a deal but chances are if you buy a phone at a 2-year price they will require you to change your plan. In the past when I've gotten a new phone if the plan I was on was no longer available they would inform me that I would need to change to a more current plan.
One option to try is to ask if there are any customer loyalty plans. Verizon has plans they don't advertise for customers looking to keep a low bill but remain with Verizon. Example: $25/month for 100 minutes with no nights & weekends or in-network calling versus the $40 for the base minute plan. There is a family share plan that is only 450 minutes shared, instead of the 700 on the base plan, and priced at 49.99 instead of 59.99. HOWEVER these were prior to share everything so I have no idea if they even still exist post Share Everything. If you've been a customer for a few years it's worth asking.
I did speak with a CSR who told me that if you have any discounts on your current plan they will now come off the top of the total bill. So instead of it being 15% off the base line it will now be 15% off $100 (40+60).

Kreeker said:
This is untrue. You only lose your unlimited data if the plan is changed to Share Everything. You can still upgrade phones, you just have make sure you keep your current plan.
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False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
ignore me c:

cmg5461 said:
False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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Then tell me how my brother used his upgrade on our family share plan and i kept my unlimited data? This was done on the first week of july.

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False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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False. I've done this personally and maintained unlimited data and my old share plan. If you don't believe me, I'll happily show you screenshots from my account page.

droidstyle said:
Then tell me how my brother used his upgrade on our family share plan and i kept my unlimited data? This was done on the first week of july.
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When was the phone purchased? It's also possible the in-store rep had no idea of the plan changes.

Kreeker said:
This is untrue. You only lose your unlimited data if the plan is changed to Share Everything. You can still upgrade phones, you just have make sure you keep your current plan.
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Exactly what i was told and did!

cmg5461 said:
False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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Anyone that tells you that is full of it. Upgrading a line does NOT impact the others on the plan. Even if a line has a dumbphone, they can upgrade to a smartphone and still choose from the 2, 5 or 10GB line based tiered data plans without messing with the others.

frankspin said:
When was the phone purchased? It's also possible the in-store rep had no idea of the plan changes.
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The first week of july lol

cmg5461 said:
False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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False, my sister upgraded to an iphone from a dumb phone after I had preordered my gs3. I made sure she knew to deny the share everything plan, and instead upgrade to a standalone 2gb/$30 data plan.
See 6,7, and 15 :good:
http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/faqs/Calling Plans/share_everything.html
*EDIT* The CSRs WILL definitely push you to the share everything plan. Someone who isn't in the know will probably not even understand that they do NOT have to switch to Share Everything.

i still have my unlimited data

Kreeker said:
False, my sister upgraded to an iphone from a dumb phone after I had preordered my gs3. I made sure she knew to deny the share everything plan, and instead upgrade to a standalone 2gb/$30 data plan.
See 6,7, and 15 :good:
http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/faqs/Calling Plans/share_everything.html
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Exactly...i was also told that in december when my line is elidgeable for a upgrade i can use it on my wifes line and buy a seperate data plan. The forums are almost as bad as the media....**** gets blown way out of proportion.

Just going to go ahead and post these and the end all be all. The first picture shows the main line(mine), notice the old share plan and unlimited data. Second picture shows the line I used to upgrade, notice the end date. Now, the rep at the store most definitely tried to push me onto a Share Everything(telling me the benefits, etc.), but with a couple stern "No, thank you"s, he dropped it.

Good to know. Based on the info they released they made it seem like you had to change if you were upgrading a phone but I guess that must be limited to non-family plans. I wonder if I can get them to give me an upgrade now instead of december

frankspin said:
When was the phone purchased? It's also possible the in-store rep had no idea of the plan changes.
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This is exactly opposite of the way things work.
If there was a plan change requirement, the rep would be forced to implement it via the computer system, as it would explicitly disallow (if it even showed it) the use of an ineligible plan.
The idea that a rep missed the meeting saying "Everyone who upgrades anything goes on shared data and takes the entire plan with them!" and simply didn't enter it into the system at the time of purchase is simply laughable.

frankspin said:
Good to know. Based on the info they released they made it seem like you had to change if you were upgrading a phone but I guess that must be limited to non-family plans. I wonder if I can get them to give me an upgrade now instead of december
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well ya...vzw reps are no different than a car salesman...Do you honestly think a rep is going to say "hey stick with our old plan, the new one sucks" lmao!

I take it back. That's what you get for listening to CSR's. I'm glad to see verizon takes pride with training the people who represent them.

[Q] Have I become too picky, or do people also not like the way verizon is going?

I really just needed to vent , maybe get some views also .
Does any one feel like the current trend in verizon is really disturbing ?
Here are my issues :
1- They of course took away unlimited and then they take away eligibility to keep it when upgrading ( unlike At&t I think which allows their customers to keep the unlimited with upgrade and Tmobile which allows unlimited for an added fee ).
2- They are forcing manufacturers to lock bootlaoders , and take away SD card space, to cause us to use more data . Example the DNA( only the verizon version does not have expanded storage capability) and now the removal of the 32 gb version of Galaxy S3
3- None of the new devices have the capability of surf and talk on 3g like the t-bolt, rezound and the S3. The note 2 and the DNA both lost that feature . Seems to me like that is going backwards.
additional fees for locking bootloaders are being implemented and future complete removal unlimited data plans, rumors I know, but even more disturbing.
I am really starting to get bothered by their current practices. I feel like we are losing more and more freedoms and privileges while the rest of the world is getting more ( the case of the DNA getting the better version )
I am not sure what to accomplish by this thread, I am interested to see if this is really bothering any one else as much as it does with me, to the point of thinking about going to another company.
I still have the unlimited , as i am grandfathered into it , but i am really thinking about ditching verizon if they get rid of unlimited completely. Before that even, only one line left in my family plan is under contract till august. I am seriously debating leaving the company all together because of their practices
Done raving and ranting.

Not to be rude but, if you don't like the service you get for your money then youshould switch. If you aren't happy it really doesn't matter what any random internet people think.

I'm right there with you on not liking the way they are headed. My wife and I have lines we got on her sister's family plan before they did away with unlimited data, so we're here for a while, and I like the service we're getting. We also got GS3's and are on contract for a few years with our affordable data plans. When that expires, though, I'm anticipating leaving.
We'll have to see where everything stands, but if I was a new potential customer, I'd definitely go with a Nexus 4 on a prepaid network instead of Verizon.

Yes they are getting quite ridiculous. But, when you really think about it, havent they always been like this, moreso than the other carriers?
Just curious, what kind of stuff have you been hearing about completely doing away with unlimited? Still have mine through a family plan. Never gonna give it up if I can help it.

Not that I don't agree with a lot of what your saying but AT&T allows you to keep their unlimited data when upgrading because it then has a cap of 5GB before they throttle you. If I had too choose between the two, I'd rather keep Verizon here since we at least still have true unlimited.
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bobloblaw1 said:
Not to be rude but, if you don't like the service you get for your money then youshould switch. If you aren't happy it really doesn't matter what any random internet people think.
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I know it comes down to me, i wanted to see other people's point of view
xderiwx said:
Yes they are getting quite ridiculous. But, when you really think about it, havent they always been like this, moreso than the other carriers?
Just curious, what kind of stuff have you been hearing about completely doing away with unlimited? Still have mine through a family plan. Never gonna give it up if I can help it.
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Rumors are two folds, eventually every one will be done with contract that obliged verizon to keep unlimited and then you will be going month to month ( if you decide to keep unlimited and pay full price for your device) . This is about to happen by this summer I think when you calculate the last bit of customers that were able to keep their unlimited and upgrade forcing verizon into a contract ( those who pre ordered the gsIII) . After that they can pretty much force all the month to month grandfathers to chose a tiered plan.
This is why I am very hesitant to pay a full price for a phone, they are being really unpredictable, I would hate to pay full price for a phone only to be forced into a teired plan, and with their trac record, they come up with something new every day.
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I'm right there with you on not liking the way they are headed. My wife and I have lines we got on her sister's family plan before they did away with unlimited data, so we're here for a while, and I like the service we're getting. We also got GS3's and are on contract for a few years with our affordable data plans. When that expires, though, I'm anticipating leaving.
We'll have to see where everything stands, but if I was a new potential customer, I'd definitely go with a Nexus 4 on a prepaid network instead of Verizon.
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You know You are absolutely correct, even google pulled their line out of verizon.
Does any one know how does Tmobile fair on Long island NY , or in general? Do you guys think its worth the switch

i kept my unlimited plan after altering my plan last week.
had to fight for it, but i kept it.

jmichaels1982 said:
I really just needed to vent , maybe get some views also .
Does any one feel like the current trend in verizon is really disturbing ?
Here are my issues :
1- They of course took away unlimited and then they take away eligibility to keep it when upgrading ( unlike At&t I think which allows their customers to keep the unlimited with upgrade and Tmobile which allows unlimited for an added fee ).
2- They are forcing manufacturers to lock bootlaoders , and take away SD card space, to cause us to use more data . Example the DNA( only the verizon version does not have expanded storage capability) and now the removal of the 32 gb version of Galaxy S3
3- None of the new devices have the capability of surf and talk on 3g like the t-bolt, rezound and the S3. The note 2 and the DNA both lost that feature . Seems to me like that is going backwards.
additional fees for locking bootloaders are being implemented and future complete removal unlimited data plans, rumors I know, but even more disturbing.
I am really starting to get bothered by their current practices. I feel like we are losing more and more freedoms and privileges while the rest of the world is getting more ( the case of the DNA getting the better version )
I am not sure what to accomplish by this thread, I am interested to see if this is really bothering any one else as much as it does with me, to the point of thinking about going to another company.
I still have the unlimited , as i am grandfathered into it , but i am really thinking about ditching verizon if they get rid of unlimited completely. Before that even, only one line left in my family plan is under contract till august. I am seriously debating leaving the company all together because of their practices
Done raving and ranting.
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Their executive relations team is pissing and that's very difficult to do. I called complaining about how I've received phone after phone through the CLN program have either been broken or not up to date with software. One exec assured me that they're up to the quality they guarantee. When I call in saying that I have video proof of receiving this current Galaxy S III with a physical defect and that it was behind by two updates, they failed to return my calls and sent me a letter detailing how many CLNR devices they've sent saying that they had gone above and beyond expectations to help me and I could cancel before February 7th without having to pay an ETF if I wasn't happy. They've failed to return several of my phone calls and I'm ready to contact the BBB/FCC over this. Someone needs to start taking Verizon down a peg or two. Sure, they get fined 1-2 million dollars but not like it matters when that's change to them.
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nosympathy said:
Not that I don't agree with a lot of what your saying but AT&T allows you to keep their unlimited data when upgrading because it then has a cap of 5GB before they throttle you. If I had too choose between the two, I'd rather keep Verizon here since we at least still have true unlimited.
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This is true/false. Verizon throttles 3G during peak hours but not 4G. Source: Personal experience lol. Still, sad that my throttled 3G is faster than Sprint's "unlimited" 3G. I'll pull around 800kbp/s while throttled while my Sprint friends get 400-500kpb/s.

TXI Kaze said:
Their executive relations team is pissing and that's very difficult to do. I called complaining about how I've received phone after phone through the CLN program have either been broken or not up to date with software. One exec assured me that they're up to the quality they guarantee. When I call in saying that I have video proof of receiving this current Galaxy S III with a physical defect and that it was behind by two updates, they failed to return my calls and sent me a letter detailing how many CLNR devices they've sent saying that they had gone above and beyond expectations to help me and I could cancel before February 7th without having to pay an ETF if I wasn't happy. They've failed to return several of my phone calls and I'm ready to contact the BBB/FCC over this. Someone needs to start taking Verizon down a peg or two. Sure, they get fined 1-2 million dollars but not like it matters when that's change to them.
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This is true/false. Verizon throttles 3G during peak hours but not 4G. Source: Personal experience lol. Still, sad that my throttled 3G is faster than Sprint's "unlimited" 3G. I'll pull around 800kbp/s while throttled while my Sprint friends get 400-500kpb/s.
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Well yes if you want to get technical. I was talking about 4G though. Regardless of what you are using with att if you have an unlimited plan you get throttled after 5GB.
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jmichaels1982 said:
I know it comes down to me, i wanted to see other people's point of view
Rumors are two folds, eventually every one will be done with contract that obliged verizon to keep unlimited and then you will be going month to month ( if you decide to keep unlimited and pay full price for your device) . This is about to happen by this summer I think when you calculate the last bit of customers that were able to keep their unlimited and upgrade forcing verizon into a contract ( those who pre ordered the gsIII) . After that they can pretty much force all the month to month grandfathers to chose a tiered plan.
This is why I am very hesitant to pay a full price for a phone, they are being really unpredictable, I would hate to pay full price for a phone only to be forced into a teired plan, and with their trac record, they come up with something new every day.
You know You are absolutely correct, even google pulled their line out of verizon.
Does any one know how does Tmobile fair on Long island NY , or in general? Do you guys think its worth the switch
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I was already out of contract/month to month before purchasing my S3. Being forced into a tiered plan would suck big time! Lets hope it doesnt get to that point.

Another Unlimited Data Question

Broke my S3, and would like to upgrade to the Moto X. Unfortunately, I have the unlimited data upgrade. Our family plan has 5 lines. 1 unlimited smart, 1 tiered smart, and 3 dumb phones. I've searched and heard NUMEROUS stories on how to keep unlimited data, and read comments from people about how none of those work. I figured the XDA folks may be a bit more knowledgeable than some other forums, so I'm trying my hand here. I've heard a few different ways to do it:
1. Transfer my upgrade through myverizon to a dumb line and then upgrade. (Verizon alone has given me about 4 different answers on if this would void my UDP)
2. Find a retailer that would work things around and keep my UDP. (Found a guy, verizonchris, on a different site that said he could do this for me most likely, but he needs my billing password. Naturally, Im reluctant to give it out)
3. Transfer upgrade on myverizon, go to a store and get a upgrade voucher for motomaker, then upgrade through motomaker and it will keep my UDP.
I've heard of some others, as I'm sure you guys have, and am really just looking for some sort of verification for this from some smart peeps!
(Sidenote, I'm also going to claim the S3 on Asurion. Does anyone know what Asurion is giving people for broken vzw S3's? Heard a few different things, maybe an upgrade through that would be possible?)
Thanks!

blueice5249 said:
Broke my S3, and would like to upgrade to the Moto X. Unfortunately, I have the unlimited data upgrade. Our family plan has 5 lines. 1 unlimited smart, 1 tiered smart, and 3 dumb phones. I've searched and heard NUMEROUS stories on how to keep unlimited data, and read comments from people about how none of those work. I figured the XDA folks may be a bit more knowledgeable than some other forums, so I'm trying my hand here. I've heard a few different ways to do it:
1. Transfer my upgrade through myverizon to a dumb line and then upgrade. (Verizon alone has given me about 4 different answers on if this would void my UDP)
2. Find a retailer that would work things around and keep my UDP. (Found a guy, verizonchris, on a different site that said he could do this for me most likely, but he needs my billing password. Naturally, Im reluctant to give it out)
3. Transfer upgrade on myverizon, go to a store and get a upgrade voucher for motomaker, then upgrade through motomaker and it will keep my UDP.
Thanks!
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4. Buy the Moto X outright and pop your SIM in.

Jacquestrapp said:
4. Buy the Moto X outright and pop your SIM in.
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Thanks, trying to avoid that.

Sounds like you may be overthinking this, or something has changed that I'm not aware of.
You can't do anything with the upgrade available on your unlimited line. If you do, this will most likely reset your line to tiered data.
The upgrade would need to be on the dumb phone line.
You would upgrade that dumb phone's line to the phone you want.
When the phone comes, call up Verizon and activate the new phone on your line.
Double check with Verizon that the data plan will not activate on the dumb phone's line.
Enjoy your new phone with unlimited data! Too bad the person who uses that dumb phone won't have an upgrade for another couple years.

If other lines on the account have upgrades available all you will need to do is update using one of the other updates. The line yoy used for the upgrade will now have a 2gb plan but you don't activate with that line. Just put your SIM in and you will still have your UNLIMITED DATA. Hope this helped.
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MetalMan2 said:
You can't do anything with the upgrade available on your unlimited line. If you do, this will most likely reset your line to tiered data.
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The 'new every two' was discontinued 2 years ago. The reason you get a new subsidized phone price is because you're re-entering into a contract with verizon... so it's like it's a new contract/line. You don't have credits and there's nothing to transfer, but if your contract is up, you can get the 'new' price. Unless you have unlimited data... you do that and they'll move you to a 'share everything' plan.
I've been told Costco will generally eat the cost of the phone, just to sell you one at the 'new' price and get the credit for your business. You keep the unlimited data and Verizon thinks you paid full retail. I can't confirm that plan will work for you, but many here have said that's worked for them.
Personally, I'm in the EDGE program. Pay $16-30/month more for a new device, keep my unlimited data and every 12 months, get to pick a new device. Yes, you're paying $200-360 for the phone, but A- that's not much more than the 'new' price', B- you get to keep unlimited data, C- you get a new phone every 1 year, rather than 2 years with re-entering a contract and D- you were probably going to pay that much for a phone off eBay anyway if you have unlimited data. Dunno if that makes sense for someone with so many lines, but if you keep it to 1-2 lines and really need that data (like I do), then it makes perfect fiscal sense.

beepea206 said:
The 'new every two' was discontinued 2 years ago. The reason you get a new subsidized phone price is because you're re-entering into a contract with verizon... so it's like it's a new contract/line. You don't have credits and there's nothing to transfer, but if your contract is up, you can get the 'new' price. Unless you have unlimited data... you do that and they'll move you to a 'share everything' plan.
I've been told Costco will generally eat the cost of the phone, just to sell you one at the 'new' price and get the credit for your business. You keep the unlimited data and Verizon thinks you paid full retail. I can't confirm that plan will work for you, but many here have said that's worked for them.
Personally, I'm in the EDGE program. Pay $16-30/month more for a new device, keep my unlimited data and every 12 months, get to pick a new device. Yes, you're paying $200-360 for the phone, but A- that's not much more than the 'new' price', B- you get to keep unlimited data, C- you get a new phone every 1 year, rather than 2 years with re-entering a contract and D- you were probably going to pay that much for a phone off eBay anyway if you have unlimited data. Dunno if that makes sense for someone with so many lines, but if you keep it to 1-2 lines and really need that data (like I do), then it makes perfect fiscal sense.
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Thanks, I may look into that if I run out of options.
Has anyone ever heard of this working? Seems like a HUGE loophole if it really works.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...nlimited-data-get-phone-subsidized-price.html

blueice5249 said:
Has anyone ever heard of this working? Seems like a HUGE loophole if it really works.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...nlimited-data-get-phone-subsidized-price.html
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That's a huge flaw in Best Buy's system if it works. Because the purchase of the new phone requires a re-entry into contract and VZ specifically has blocks on subsidized phone prices on grandfathered data plans. Not even GMs in Verizon stores can override it... I've tried.
So basically, you're placing a 3rd party order and because Best Buy can't send you a live sim card (only VZ can), you swap it for your current one and VZ is never the wiser. Clever, but tread lightly and quickly.. I can't imagine this flaw will remain open for long.

blueice5249 said:
Broke my S3, and would like to upgrade to the Moto X. Unfortunately, I have the unlimited data upgrade. Our family plan has 5 lines. 1 unlimited smart, 1 tiered smart, and 3 dumb phones. I've searched and heard NUMEROUS stories on how to keep unlimited data, and read comments from people about how none of those work. I figured the XDA folks may be a bit more knowledgeable than some other forums, so I'm trying my hand here. I've heard a few different ways to do it:
1. Transfer my upgrade through myverizon to a dumb line and then upgrade. (Verizon alone has given me about 4 different answers on if this would void my UDP)
Thanks!
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I have done this many times. If the upgrade is on your unlimited data plane line, log into VZ website and transfer it to the tiered smart line. When you phone arrived, call VZ and activate on your unlimited data line.

buhohitr said:
I have done this many times. If the upgrade is on your unlimited data plane line, log into VZ website and transfer it to the tiered smart line. When you phone arrived, call VZ and activate on your unlimited data line.
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Ive done this twice as well. I went to the store and did this. They understood what I was doing too. They didn't care. They thought it was smart. Just transfer the upgrade to a dumbline and then upgrade. Then have them activate it under ur unlimited line.
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buhohitr said:
I have done this many times. If the upgrade is on your unlimited data plane line, log into VZ website and transfer it to the tiered smart line. When you phone arrived, call VZ and activate on your unlimited data line.
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Just a quick update for everyone:
I couldn't update because of my talk plan. Since I claimed my broken screen through Asurion, I talked them into making a "one-time" exception and sending me a brand new S4 instead of another S3.
I'm selling the S4 and buying a Moto X. They told me they're in and out of them. I convinced them to send me a new S4 (as a "one time" exception because of my great history).
Im going to sell the S4 and buy a Moto X.
I already convinced Motorola to send me a free case and $50 off coupon. Awesome deal! :victory::victory:
Suck it Verizon!
UNLIMITED FOREVER!! :laugh::highfive:

blueice5249 said:
Just a quick update for everyone:
I couldn't update because of my talk plan. Since I claimed my broken screen through Asurion, I talked them into making a "one-time" exception and sending me a brand new S4 instead of another S3.
I'm selling the S4 and buying a Moto X. They told me they're in and out of them. I convinced them to send me a new S4 (as a "one time" exception because of my great history).
Im going to sell the S4 and buy a Moto X.
I already convinced Motorola to send me a free case and $50 off coupon. Awesome deal! :victory::victory:
Suck it Verizon!
UNLIMITED FOREVER!! :laugh::highfive:
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Nice move! I'm jealous!
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Nice move! I'm jealous!
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Now you'll be really jealous. Since they have that $100 off sale Monday, I conned free Royal Blue earbuds and the anti-glare film out of them! I'm still gonna call back Monday to see what they're doing for the people who just ordered them too lol