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Unlimited 4G ending on Thursday

I just learned tonight that as of Thursday, 3 days from now, 4G data plans will be capped.
The new cap will be 5GB. Pricing overage is not specified just yet, I would assume the standard $10/GB overage.
This is for any NEW customers and any upgrades done AFTER this day. Anyone who already has a TBolt is grandfathered in (myself included). Spread the word, and let your friends/family know should they need a truly unlimited plan.
I would expect an announcement tomorrow sometime. Just wanted to let you guys know.

And the gospel has spoke. I am grandfathered young skywalker.

fillyo said:
And the gospel has spoke. I am grandfathered young skywalker.
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The unlimited data is strong with this one...
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This is the reason I upgraded immediately, even if it required paying full retail

My business rep has also told me that people getting 4G data plans better do it now, before it changes. He did not tell me this Thursday, but his feeling was no more than 30 days after the TB was released. He also told me there's no guarantee anyone on the unlim plans will be grandfathered.

This is what I was afraid of.. glad I JUST got mine lol

I knew the unlimited 4G data wouldn't last until the Droid Bionic. Glad I have my Thunderbolt.

i am in the door but i still am going to sell TB when bionic comes out

rajuabju said:
My business rep has also told me that people getting 4G data plans better do it now, before it changes. He did not tell me this Thursday, but his feeling was no more than 30 days after the TB was released. He also told me there's no guarantee anyone on the unlim plans will be grandfathered.
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There would be lots of trouble for not grandfathering people already up and running on unlimited 4G data plans. If it isn't in the contract they can't suddenly put it into the contract. Additionally as the TB currently offers no built in mechanism to turn off 4G for those who got it under the concept of it having unlimited data would have to be offered the option to return their phones, etc... Seriously it'd be a PR nightmare/huge trouble for VZW to not grandfather people in, its the same reason AT&T did it for people who already had unlimited plans when they moved to a tiered system.

javawolfpack said:
There would be lots of trouble for not grandfathering people already up and running on unlimited 4G data plans. If it isn't in the contract they can't suddenly put it into the contract.
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That was my thought to it also. Cant change my contract just bc they want to. Thats why we have contracts, to lock things in place

So what happens when we want to move onto another 4g device? Are they going to allow us to transfer our 4g plan to the new device and retain our unlimited? I'd imagine since the LTE sim is swappable.. we can probably just pop it into another device and keep unlimited..
Any thoughts?

Wow I just signed up for Verizon today and got the Thunderbolt I signed up for the Unlimited plan looks like its a good thing I did seeing this tonight

So glad I bought my Tbird on release day.
So pissed that Verizon would do this. After the gov't sat on their hands and made them go either unlimited or 5GB (not "5GB unlimited") in years past, their CDMA based data plans have been unlimited ever since. REALLY unlimited. Unless you're in the 95th percentile. Maybe.
But now they're going the way of the greedy [email protected]#[email protected]#%(^#$^$$%#$$ at AT&T? What happened to the carrier that was both reliable-thanks-CDMA and consumer-friendly-thanks-Sprint, in the same package?
Major regression. Very unhappy. I'm glad I have grandfathered, but I wonder if I will be forced over to a 5GB plan in two years when my contract expires.

Can we get some sort of confirmation to this rumor?

I'm glad I became a Verizon customer this past Sunday. I was with T-Mobile till the news broke out. I refuse to give AT&T any of my money!
Anyway, I'm glad I made this move. The Thunderbolt is crazy fast, and I'm very happy with it. Oh, only 1 thing I did hate.... My battery died after 3 hours of being fully charged.

Diversion said:
So what happens when we want to move onto another 4g device? Are they going to allow us to transfer our 4g plan to the new device and retain our unlimited? I'd imagine since the LTE sim is swappable.. we can probably just pop it into another device and keep unlimited..
Any thoughts?
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I'd think that switching devices isn't an issue. Take AT&T they only forced people to tiered if they change out of the unlimited data plan. As their entry level tiered was priced at like $15/mo vs $30 so some people who didn't use much data chose to do that but never could get unlimited again. Also for developers and the like switching between devices for testing on Verizon it seems to require switching a phone ID and activating that device, but I assume with 4G the sim card would only need to be moved? I'm unsure as to how that works, but I'll likely need to move between my TB, which arrives tomorrow, and my Incredible for development purposes. So I'm sure I'll figure out the details soon.
Can we get some sort of confirmation to this rumor?
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I assume until Verizon makes an official statement it'll remain a rumor. Regardless, sooner than I've been hearing. I'd heard tiered by the summer. But suppose a test run for a week might be enough to see what kind of saturation to expect network wise. But think before the bionics release would be a reasonable guess. But well wish it wasn't headed that way. Think the approach of I think sprint just charging an additional $10/mo if you want 4G isn't a bad business model. Plus the users who get these phones and barely use any data would likely offset from those who do...

javawolfpack said:
I'd think that switching devices isn't an issue. Take AT&T they only forced people to tiered if they change out of the unlimited data plan. As their entry level tiered was priced at like $15/mo vs $30 so some people who didn't use much data chose to do that but never could get unlimited again. Also for developers and the like switching between devices for testing on Verizon it seems to require switching a phone ID and activating that device, but I assume with 4G the sim card would only need to be moved? I'm unsure as to how that works, but I'll likely need to move between my TB, which arrives tomorrow, and my Incredible for development purposes. So I'm sure I'll figure out the details soon.
I assume until Verizon makes an official statement it'll remain a rumor. Regardless, sooner than I've been hearing. I'd heard tiered by the summer. But suppose a test run for a week might be enough to see what kind of saturation to expect network wise. But think before the bionics release would be a reasonable guess. But well wish it wasn't headed that way. Think the approach of I think sprint just charging an additional $10/mo if you want 4G isn't a bad business model. Plus the users who get these phones and barely use any data would likely offset from those who do...
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after testing lte i would pay $10 a month more for it.

My Verizon Rep is allowing me to upgrade early, but pay Verizon price for the phone. But my upgrade is the 29th of March. So if I can, I would wait and grab from Amazon. So until some sort of verification somewhere I'll wait. They won't do a surprise change would they?

Philosophre said:
My Verizon Rep is allowing me to upgrade early, but pay Verizon price for the phone. But my upgrade is the 29th of March. So if I can, I would wait and grab from Amazon. So until some sort of verification somewhere I'll wait. They won't do a surprise change would they?
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Don't think for a minute that they won't do a surprise change! The legalese you click / sign through when you're becoming a customer says they can change any part of any of your terms at any time with or without notice, basically they can decide that it's $1,000 per byte and that's just tough luck for you. Of course they would probably get sued for being unreasonable, but you see my point. The act of changing the deal on a dime is not illegal because you agreed to let them.
And if you aren't even a Verizon Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan customer at all right now, they have even less obligation to you, because you aren't a customer, and you have no chance of being grandfathered.

allquixotic said:
Don't think for a minute that they won't do a surprise change! The legalese you click / sign through when you're becoming a customer says they can change any part of any of your terms at any time with or without notice, basically they can decide that it's $1,000 per byte and that's just tough luck for you. Of course they would probably get sued for being unreasonable, but you see my point. The act of changing the deal on a dime is not illegal because you agreed to let them.
And if you aren't even a Verizon Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan customer at all right now, they have even less obligation to you, because you aren't a customer, and you have no chance of being grandfathered.
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this was my understanding. Even if they have a contract with you, they can still change it, but it then gives you an option, you bend over and take the changes, or you can leave with no ETF.
Also if they are not going to grandfather people in, then I will be returning my phone within the 30 days and going with another carrier. I like their coverage and LTE is crazy, but a 5GB cap on internet speeds this fast? you'll be hitting cap in a week.
I am hoping that the whole deal between AT&T and T-Mobile becoming one company makes them change their mind, or at least rethink the data plans.

[Q] Keep the Charge or Return and wait for the Bionic

Quite a conundrum.
The Bionic looks like itll be nice, but it seemed like an act of God to flash anything on the X compared to what it takes to flash things on the Charge and I assume the bootloader will be locked on the Bionic as well.
I don't want to lose my unlimited data package, which could happen before bionic is released and I donated to the Charge cause which would make that a loss.
The hardware in the Bionic is quite appealing though, although I have not seen anything about the type battery it might use.
So, what are your opinions, I have a week to return the Charge, would you?

ShotgunSam said:
Quite a conundrum.
The Bionic looks like itll be nice, but it seemed like an act of God to flash anything on the X compared to what it takes to flash things on the Charge and I assume the bootloader will be locked on the Bionic as well.
I don't want to lose my unlimited data package, which could happen before bionic is released and I donated to the Charge cause which would make that a loss.
The hardware in the Bionic is quite appealing though, although I have not seen anything about the type battery it might use.
So, what are your opinions, I have a week to return the Charge, would you?
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I have a week to return my Charge as well. I don't think I will. The Bionic looks very appealing to me in respects to the hardware, but the locked motorola bootloader sucks! I think I will wait for the next dual-core, 1gb ram phone after the Bionic.
Also, I last heard the Bionic will sport a 1930mAh battery. Here are some links that say 1930 mAh:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Motorola-DROID-BIONIC_id5122
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_droid_bionic-3710.php

ShotgunSam said:
I don't want to lose my unlimited data package
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that is going to change in the next month or so regardless of what u decide :/

robby88 said:
that is going to change in the next month or so regardless of what u decide :/
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Have they come out and said they would force people to switch?
AT&T is allowing people to be grandfathered in, can VZW make changes to someone's contract like that without their consent, according to my local VZW store if you upgrade now, you'll be grandfathered in.

If you have unlimited data they can't take it away cuz you are grandfathered in and that would breach your contract. Later on if you renew your contract while upgrading to a new phone that might change.
But for now if you get it before the switch you get to enjoy all the 4g data you can handle. That's the main reason I got my charge lol

Manjews said:
If you have unlimited data they can't take it away cuz you are grandfathered in and that would breach your contract. Later on if you renew your contract while upgrading to a new phone that might change.
But for now if you get it before the switch you get to enjoy all the 4g data you can handle. That's the main reason I got my charge lol
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that was my understanding too, which I do love the Charge and I like it much better than the X, which is why holding out for the Bionic is dangerous.

Manjews said:
If you have unlimited data they can't take it away cuz you are grandfathered in and that would breach your contract. Later on if you renew your contract while upgrading to a new phone that might change.
But for now if you get it before the switch you get to enjoy all the 4g data you can handle. That's the main reason I got my charge lol
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If Verizon does try and force us to give up our unlimited data it would be like you said a breach of contract. If they were to breach a contract then it would be void. If these things were to happen I know for sure I would be on the phone immediately saying you breached my contract and I want out and put me month to month.
It's happened before when carriers change rates, people have gotten out of the contract because it voids the agreement you made.
Now, again, IF these things were to happen, I would be getting out of my contract like I said and waiting until the holiday season to buy one of these quad-core phones that are supposed to be arriving. So let's hope they do this!!!

Wasn't the Bionic canceled?

SuperFly03 said:
Wasn't the Bionic canceled?
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No, it has been delayed until sometime between end of Q3/beginning of Q4...

Manjews said:
If you have unlimited data they can't take it away cuz you are grandfathered in and that would breach your contract.
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you might wanna check ur contract about LTE data, cuz once they decide to pull unlimited it doesn't matter when u activated your plan it will be changed to a tiered plan there will be no unlimited data for anyone after that point

Since you seem to know more about this than anyone else on these forums (no one has come straight out saying they won't be grandfathering current 4g users in for sure) can you please highlight the part of this new LTE contract that allows Verizon to change our pricing plan freely without voiding our contract? This would be a huge change over the current contract if true.

robby88 said:
you might wanna check ur contract about LTE data, cuz once they decide to pull unlimited it doesn't matter when u activated your plan it will be changed to a tiered plan there will be no unlimited data for anyone after that point
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Sorry but this quite simply is untrue.
I just checked my contract and there is nothing giving them the right to change my unlimited data plan.
So once again if they were to decide to change our unlimited 4g data plan then our contracts would be nullified.

If vzw does this,back to tmobile for.me. 50 unlimited everything.
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wow, dudes, if you want a smart phone, you need to pay for it, and if they raise the prices, so be it, dont cry so much, or get a dumb phone

jorge3687 said:
wow, dudes, if you want a smart phone, you need to pay for it, and if they raise the prices, so be it, dont cry so much, or get a dumb phone
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/agree, gigahertz class smartphones with 4G data are a LUXURY not a gift from your creator, if you can't afford it you don't need it.

deepducky said:
Since you seem to know more about this than anyone else on these forums (no one has come straight out saying they won't be grandfathering current 4g users in for sure) can you please highlight the part of this new LTE contract that allows Verizon to change our pricing plan freely without voiding our contract? This would be a huge change over the current contract if true.
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"Any part of this contract may be changed by Verizon at any time with or without notification."
It's been there since before smart phones people, though to avoid law suits they usually grandfather people for as long as their service remains unchanged, but if you change your billing information, any part of your plan, or the actual device you're using then you can and often will become subject to the latest greatest terms.

warriorprophet said:
"Any part of this contract may be changed by Verizon at any time with or without notification."
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Is that an actual quote from the LTE contract agreement? I couldn't find those exact words using a quick Google search so I assume it's only found in a physical document that you received?

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"Any part of this contract may be changed by Verizon at any time with or without notification."
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this line is not in any of the forms that I signed with the purchase of my Charge.

They can change it but they wont and if they do you will have 60 days to leave with no etf, trolls can gtfo
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4G Pricing - "Grandfathering"

Can someone point me to wording in the contract which specifies that current customers with LTE-capable phones will be grandfathered when tiered pricing comes this summer?
I'm not looking for anecdotes of past grandfathering, since comments by the VZW CFO indicate that they'll be leveraging LTE pricing for a revenue boost. It's my opinion that there's no precedent for the move to tiered LTE pricing, and that current LTE contracts will revert to a tiered plan on subsequent contracts.
Asking because I keep seeing assertions that LTE grandfathering is a sure bet, when all signs say otherwise. I understand this is a touchy subject; having broached it before, people get quite emotional in their claims that they're entitled to existing prices until the end of time.

You won't find anything because there is none. No one here knows if/how Verizon will grandfather.

Guys... calm down. You signed a contract stating UNLIMITED DATA. They cant take it away from you without breaching the contract. In that case they will have to let you go (no ETF) or simply be sued.

psufan5 said:
Guys... calm down. You signed a contract stating UNLIMITED DATA. They cant take it away from you without breaching the contract. In that case they will have to let you go (no ETF) or simply be sued.
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what he said. you are under contact so they can not change the terms of the contract, otherwise they beach the contract.

I'm curious what'll happen once our contracts start to expire and we go to buy new phones. If they take my unlimited data, I'm leaving

DroidDont said:
I'm not looking for anecdotes of past grandfathering, since comments by the VZW CFO indicate that they'll be leveraging LTE pricing for a revenue boost. It's my opinion that there's no precedent for the move to tiered LTE pricing, and that current LTE contracts will revert to a tiered plan on subsequent contracts.
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Bolded the important part for the reading-impaired.

macewank said:
I'm curious what'll happen once our contracts start to expire and we go to buy new phones. If they take my unlimited data, I'm leaving
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thats what I would like to know

macewank said:
I'm curious what'll happen once our contracts start to expire and we go to buy new phones. If they take my unlimited data, I'm leaving
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Don't change your plan at all and buy your phone at retail
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luniz7 said:
Don't change your plan at all and buy your phone at retail
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even that's no guarantee. See the current line of smartphones. They still require a plan change to activate if you don't already have a smartphone plan regardless of how you purchase it.

you should be good as long as you stay with a 4g phone when upgrading and extending your contract in the future, when going from 3g to 4g the system automatically adds/removes 4g/3g. If you're that worried, double check before signing your contract that it is still showing your unlimited 29.99, if it's not, make them get it fixed (unless something changes in the future they force you to lose the unlimited) but I see people on alltell calling plans all the time and outdated calling plans. same goes for outdated data plans.

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Don't change your plan at all and buy your phone at retail
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whats the price on retail smartphones?

Thats why i got the phone as soon as possible to get the 4g data for the first 2 years with the phone.

mbrown3460 said:
whats the price on retail smartphones?
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$700 for the TB, 800 for Iphone, 700 for samsung drioid -retail pricing

psylink said:
you should be good as long as you stay with a 4g phone when upgrading and extending your contract in the future, when going from 3g to 4g the system automatically adds/removes 4g/3g. If you're that worried, double check before signing your contract that it is still showing your unlimited 29.99, if it's not, make them get it fixed (unless something changes in the future they force you to lose the unlimited) but I see people on alltell calling plans all the time and outdated calling plans. same goes for outdated data plans.
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This is the kind of ill-informed advice I'm talking about.
Again, read and listen to the communication from the money side of VZW. It's my informed opinion that unlimited pricing will no longer be an option at upgrade time when current contracts expire.
What happened in the past with acquisitions is completely unrelated to the current situation.

Until your contract expires nothing will change. Now there is no precedence, but when you upgrade your phone, you usually can RENEW your contract, if you don't change anything, it SHOULD remain the same, but that is all subjective.

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$700 for the TB, 800 for Iphone, 700 for samsung drioid -retail pricing
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Jesus! do Verizon have a trade in program?

Working in the wireless industry for several years, the only way to guarantee unlimited LTE is to have a rep confirm you're grandfathered and demand that they put notes in your account stating this. The notes are where its at. A coworker's wife is a regional trainer for VZW and she has no idea how it'll play out.
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You just moved the goalposts. You started this thread saying that you think that Verizon would force tiered pricing on those of us who already have 4g unlimited contracts, and now you moved to when that contract ends.
When the contract ends, Verizon will either extend my unlimited 4g, or I'll move to a company that does offer unlimited 4g. I'll worry about that in about 22 months or so.
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PJnc284 said:
even that's no guarantee. See the current line of smartphones. They still require a plan change to activate if you don't already have a smartphone plan regardless of how you purchase it.
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A plan change to 4G... which every phone in the next 6-7 years will have (possibly longer). You wont have to change any plan if you buy a phone at full retail. Just throw your SIM in the new phone.

4G LTE with a 2-5 GB cap seems ridiculous. Why bother building your infrastructure if people cant even enjoy it? Should almost be illegal how much they charge for data. People complain about gas prices, but what about the raping we take from data and text charges.
These people need to be regulated.

Smh T-Mobile

So T-Mobile US pulled the E-Brake on wireless tethering and now if you want share the data you already pay 30.00/mo addl for (well me atleast), you now have now pay an addl 14.99/mo. I mean yes I keep up with the carrier market and I know they have had terrible numbers the past 2-3 years, but if ur tryng to pull your company out the mud you don't do it by making sadfaces on all you long time loyal customers. I mean can a brotha get a grandfathered account? Lol (hypothetical).
Anyway, I always thought since I was rooted I wouldn't run into this wireless tethering issue but I guess I was wrong. Anybody know or might know or even have an idea of a way around this? Many thanks in advance
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Did they do this recently, because if they did, i believe you can get out of your contract. Let me know, i wana get out of mine too

I will be finding out today
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good thing my tethering is free, rooted or not

THEindian said:
Did they do this recently, because if they did, i believe you can get out of your contract. Let me know, i wana get out of mine too
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That would be FANTASTIC. Getting out of a contract = new phones, or even cheaper plan rates.

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good thing my tethering is free, rooted or not
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The article I read said that when Sensation users are upgrading to ICS they will lose their free tethering. Apparently TMo couldn't clamp down in gingerbread so they just gave it away.
I read that as when I upgrade to a new phone I will lose it as well.
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Damn, getting out of that contract would save me 30 bucks a month if I switched to a prepaid plan
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bittermormon said:
The article I read said that when Sensation users are upgrading to ICS they will lose their free tethering. Apparently TMo couldn't clamp down in gingerbread so they just gave it away.
I read that as when I upgrade to a new phone I will lose it as well.
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I'm more than sure there will be a way around it, who actually uses the software that originally came with their devices when rooted. I heard the same thing and my next door neighbor has a Sensation and tethering works like a charm. Your not suppose too use it for running your game console and 90% of the time it's those people doing the complaining about using it and getting blocked.

bittermormon said:
The article I read said that when Sensation users are upgrading to ICS they will lose their free tethering. Apparently TMo couldn't clamp down in gingerbread so they just gave it away.
I read that as when I upgrade to a new phone I will lose it as well.
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I read the article on 3 android sites,I got my tether free via a promotional thing going on

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good thing my tethering is free, rooted or not
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Same here. With a 5gb or 10gb data plan, you can receive free wireless tethering.

If they are changing the contract you can get out of it. I got out of my contract with over a year left due to the changes they enacted on the 9th of April regarding data roaming. They did not want to let me get away without an ETF but I filed a complaint with my local Attorneys General and that fixed that problem real quick.
As of right now I have no contract anymore on my T-Mobile account, I'm just playing it by ear and waiting for a new phone to knock my socks off before I go find another carrier, but it is nice to know I can drop T-Mo at any moment without an ETF

People who were grandfathered in with true unlimited data aren't affected by this as well, right?
I've been tethering without anything going wrong.

I have the 5GB Grandfathered Preferred Android Data plan for $20 and I've been getting the tethering upsell screen. I heard that the free tethering add-on only comes with the $30 5GB plan or the 10GB plan and that they won't add it on to an Preferred Android Data plan.....
Edit: Called Customer Loyalty and they hooked me up with the free hotspot promo on both lines with Android Preferred Data plans after 2 online reps lied to my face. Customer Loyalty is the reason I stay with TMobile, those people are the best of the best and always help out long time customers. Thank you to all you CL reps out there, I know you're reading this

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I have the 5GB Grandfathered Preferred Android Data plan for $20 and I've been getting the tethering upsell screen. I heard that the free tethering add-on only comes with the $30 5GB plan or the 10GB plan and that they won't add it on to an Preferred Android Data plan.....
Edit: Called Customer Loyalty and they hooked me up with the free hotspot promo on both lines with Android Preferred Data plans after 2 online reps lied to my face. Customer Loyalty is the reason I stay with TMobile, those people are the best of the best and always help out long time customers. Thank you to all you CL reps out there, I know you're reading this
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Yeah, they do tend to get you what you want now that the merger dropped. By chance did you ask them it doing that was going to extend your contract? When I did something similar when I had my G1, it ended up locking my service contract for an additional 24 months. My phone upgrade didn't change dates, just my service end date.
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dclaw_fantum said:
Yeah, they do tend to get you what you want now that the merger dropped. By chance did you ask them it doing that was going to extend your contract? When I did something similar when I had my G1, it ended up locking my service contract for an additional 24 months. My phone upgrade didn't change dates, just my service end date.
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It didn't extend my contract, I asked and checked on the website after.

every time i call t-mobile, they keep offering me the hot spot. i let them know i already have it (i dont think it affects GB?) but they insist that i dont. since they are saying i dont have hot spot, does that mean i can use that as an excuse to get out of contract?

siloner said:
every time i call t-mobile, they keep offering me the hot spot. i let them know i already have it (i dont think it affects GB?) but they insist that i dont. since they are saying i dont have hot spot, does that mean i can use that as an excuse to get out of contract?
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.......no

[VERIZON] rip unlimited data holders

Don't let your family members upgrade their devices Even though we were grandfathered in by pre-ordering, it only takes one bad apple to ruin it for everyone!
I asked a CSR and was told that upgrading one device on the family plan kicks ALL phones with unlimited into the new ****ty plans. :/
False information- see http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/faqs/Calling Plans/share_everything.html

Thanks for the heads up. I had been wondering about that too. The Csr I spoke with once said that's not the case but she sounded really unsure I could hardly trust her
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This is untrue. You only lose your unlimited data if the plan is changed to Share Everything. You can still upgrade phones, you just have make sure you keep your current plan.

I was told 2 days ago when i upgraded to the s3 that if you use your 2 year upgrade on your line you'll lose unlimited. But if you use another lines upgrade then switch the phone to your line youll keep unlimited.
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Family plans operate as one plan with just individual lines. If you upgrade one of the lines it affects the whole plan. This is pretty obvious by when you go to the Verizon website and look under Plans you only see two options now: Share Everything and Prepaid. You can try working with a CSR to see if they will get you a deal but chances are if you buy a phone at a 2-year price they will require you to change your plan. In the past when I've gotten a new phone if the plan I was on was no longer available they would inform me that I would need to change to a more current plan.
One option to try is to ask if there are any customer loyalty plans. Verizon has plans they don't advertise for customers looking to keep a low bill but remain with Verizon. Example: $25/month for 100 minutes with no nights & weekends or in-network calling versus the $40 for the base minute plan. There is a family share plan that is only 450 minutes shared, instead of the 700 on the base plan, and priced at 49.99 instead of 59.99. HOWEVER these were prior to share everything so I have no idea if they even still exist post Share Everything. If you've been a customer for a few years it's worth asking.
I did speak with a CSR who told me that if you have any discounts on your current plan they will now come off the top of the total bill. So instead of it being 15% off the base line it will now be 15% off $100 (40+60).

Kreeker said:
This is untrue. You only lose your unlimited data if the plan is changed to Share Everything. You can still upgrade phones, you just have make sure you keep your current plan.
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False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
ignore me c:

cmg5461 said:
False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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Then tell me how my brother used his upgrade on our family share plan and i kept my unlimited data? This was done on the first week of july.

cmg5461 said:
False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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False. I've done this personally and maintained unlimited data and my old share plan. If you don't believe me, I'll happily show you screenshots from my account page.

droidstyle said:
Then tell me how my brother used his upgrade on our family share plan and i kept my unlimited data? This was done on the first week of july.
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When was the phone purchased? It's also possible the in-store rep had no idea of the plan changes.

Kreeker said:
This is untrue. You only lose your unlimited data if the plan is changed to Share Everything. You can still upgrade phones, you just have make sure you keep your current plan.
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Exactly what i was told and did!

cmg5461 said:
False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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Anyone that tells you that is full of it. Upgrading a line does NOT impact the others on the plan. Even if a line has a dumbphone, they can upgrade to a smartphone and still choose from the 2, 5 or 10GB line based tiered data plans without messing with the others.

frankspin said:
When was the phone purchased? It's also possible the in-store rep had no idea of the plan changes.
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The first week of july lol

cmg5461 said:
False, upgrading one phone requires the entire plan to switch to share everything.
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False, my sister upgraded to an iphone from a dumb phone after I had preordered my gs3. I made sure she knew to deny the share everything plan, and instead upgrade to a standalone 2gb/$30 data plan.
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http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/faqs/Calling Plans/share_everything.html
*EDIT* The CSRs WILL definitely push you to the share everything plan. Someone who isn't in the know will probably not even understand that they do NOT have to switch to Share Everything.

i still have my unlimited data

Kreeker said:
False, my sister upgraded to an iphone from a dumb phone after I had preordered my gs3. I made sure she knew to deny the share everything plan, and instead upgrade to a standalone 2gb/$30 data plan.
See 6,7, and 15 :good:
http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/faqs/Calling Plans/share_everything.html
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Exactly...i was also told that in december when my line is elidgeable for a upgrade i can use it on my wifes line and buy a seperate data plan. The forums are almost as bad as the media....**** gets blown way out of proportion.

Just going to go ahead and post these and the end all be all. The first picture shows the main line(mine), notice the old share plan and unlimited data. Second picture shows the line I used to upgrade, notice the end date. Now, the rep at the store most definitely tried to push me onto a Share Everything(telling me the benefits, etc.), but with a couple stern "No, thank you"s, he dropped it.

Good to know. Based on the info they released they made it seem like you had to change if you were upgrading a phone but I guess that must be limited to non-family plans. I wonder if I can get them to give me an upgrade now instead of december

frankspin said:
When was the phone purchased? It's also possible the in-store rep had no idea of the plan changes.
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This is exactly opposite of the way things work.
If there was a plan change requirement, the rep would be forced to implement it via the computer system, as it would explicitly disallow (if it even showed it) the use of an ineligible plan.
The idea that a rep missed the meeting saying "Everyone who upgrades anything goes on shared data and takes the entire plan with them!" and simply didn't enter it into the system at the time of purchase is simply laughable.

frankspin said:
Good to know. Based on the info they released they made it seem like you had to change if you were upgrading a phone but I guess that must be limited to non-family plans. I wonder if I can get them to give me an upgrade now instead of december
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well ya...vzw reps are no different than a car salesman...Do you honestly think a rep is going to say "hey stick with our old plan, the new one sucks" lmao!

I take it back. That's what you get for listening to CSR's. I'm glad to see verizon takes pride with training the people who represent them.