Hey hey. Ever since getting a WiFi-only GT-P3113, I had been wanting to figure out a way to unlock the "phone" functionality in software. First, what do I mean? I know that this device does not physically have a "mobile" radio and so it'll NEVER work like a real cellular device. I know this.
I understand that you can't just magically make a WiFi only device into a 3G / 4G device by flashing it.
What I am after is making the normal Android phone-related stuff work, like making the Phone APK visible, making the normal dialer accessible, and enabling support for the "Headset" BlueTooth profile.
The native Android Phone.apk has support for SIP accounts built right into it, and even when you're using a 3rd party solution, the native dialer functions are just plain nice to have access to. I use GrooveIP myself, and it gets setup as the default dialer app, so basically all you gotta do to make calls is go to People, click on the # you want to call, and it works, just like a standard Android handset. Very nice and easy
The BT headset functionality is useful in apps like Skype.
I kinda inadvertently found out that all of this stuff gets "turned on" if you're using the ROM from a P3100.
I flashed one of those while testing out codeworkx's excellent CM10 ROMs, since the initial release was 3100-only.
You MUST modify the installer script to flash a 3100 ROM onto a 3113.
My purpose in posting is two-fold:
1-I couldn't find any threads really talking about this particular issue.
2-Are there any particular problems that could result in flashing the 3100 ROMs onto a 3113? Everything is working for me so far, and I can't think of any possible problems, but I figured I'd ask.
The only thing that was even remotely an "issue" for me was I had an always-empty "signal" icon on my notification bar. Since I'm running CM10 I just disabled the signal icon. This doesn't disable the WiFi icon, so its all good
Have you tried Tablet Talk?
I use the hell out of it.
Check it out in the Play Store.
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RED ZMAN said:
Have you tried Tablet Talk?
I use the hell out of it.
Check it out in the Play Store.
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Ummmmm. A few things. First, that application doesn't appear to be really related to my post at all.
Second, when I compare that app with Google Voice as a texting solution, I kinda feel like Google Voice is a much better way to go. To use Tablet Talk you pay $3 for the app, which you then have to have installed on a smartphone. The smart phone has to be up and running, and has to have SMS service on it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the phone is turned off, runs out of battery, or loses reception, then the whole system stops working.
Google Voice is free, and to use it on any Android device, you install the free Google Voice app and then use it. Since I don't even have a smartphone or any sort of SMS service, I don't appear to be able to use Tablet Talk. Actually at this point I don't even really use the normal GoogleVoice app, since I have GV hooked up to my GoogleTalk account via GV Max. Basically means I just "text" in Trillian, along with IMing. Its just more efficient that way.
How the hell would he know you don't have a smartphone?
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Yeah...
Tablet talk works great, if you have a phone.
Info I could have used.
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He wouldn't, which is why I pointed it out as one of the many reasons I gave for why Tablet Talk is (I feel) an inferior solution when contrasted with Google Voice. At this point I have my SMS, AIM, MSN, and Facebook IM all coming in via GoogleTalk, so now I only have to worry about setting up one chat solution and I'm good. To that end I'm liking LilyPad, and hopefully will jump to that once it gets Group support. Until then, Trillian is my be all, end all comms solution.
I don't really know how that has anything to do with using the P3100 ROMs on the P3113 or phone functionality LOL
I found that there are a lot of different SIP solutions that'll work just fine with the native Android Phone.apk, which has a built in SIP client. I'm presently trying out a combination of sip2sip, IPKall, and GoogleVoice. I have been using GrooveIP but its one more thing to install & configure, so I'll see how this works with just "native" Android apps.
Does anyone know if there are any potential problems that this can cause? So far I haven't encountered any, just didn't wanna make my tablet explode or something
To be honest I think it can be enabled via build prop or something of the like. I found it when looking for mount info. Workin till 9ish ill take a look when I get home.
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That was what I had been thinking earlier but kinda stopped worrying about it so much since I had the sdcard issue to work on
i want to enable 3G USB work with wifi version via samsung USB adapter
OP,
This can be done by decompling the framework-res.apk and modifying /res/values/bools.XML and set "voice capable" from false to true. Then recomplie your modified framework-res file and replace the one on the device.
You will then be able to see the phone app and the sip option.
You must know what you are doing and take a backup before you do this because if you mess up the file your device will not boot.
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Ummmmm. A few things. First, that application doesn't appear to be really related to my post at all.
Second, when I compare that app with Google Voice as a texting solution, I kinda feel like Google Voice is a much better way to go. To use Tablet Talk you pay $3 for the app, which you then have to have installed on a smartphone. The smart phone has to be up and running, and has to have SMS service on it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the phone is turned off, runs out of battery, or loses reception, then the whole system stops working.
Google Voice is free, and to use it on any Android device, you install the free Google Voice app and then use it. Since I don't even have a smartphone or any sort of SMS service, I don't appear to be able to use Tablet Talk. Actually at this point I don't even really use the normal GoogleVoice app, since I have GV hooked up to my GoogleTalk account via GV Max. Basically means I just "text" in Trillian, along with IMing. Its just more efficient that way.
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All of that is true, but by not having the phone screen on, and using tablet talk through bt, battery life is way better on my phone.
I guess it's different, if you are in another country where sms is more (included) in almost every data plan in the US.
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I use Google Voice and Sipdroid on my 3113. Would love to be able to dial from my contacts as well. I'll be keeping an eye on this.
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I use Google Voice and Sipdroid on my 3113. Would love to be able to dial from my contacts as well. I'll be keeping an eye on this.
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i use talkatone.
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OP,
This can be done by decompling the framework-res.apk and modifying /res/values/bools.XML and set "voice capable" from false to true. Then recomplie your modified framework-res file and replace the one on the device.
You will then be able to see the phone app and the sip option.
You must know what you are doing and take a backup before you do this because if you mess up the file your device will not boot.
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I'll be looking into this
My first attempt at making this work is extremely ghetto but also works
The key reasons for doing this are to gain access to the Bluetooth "headset" profile, which I use to make my Motorola headphones also work for audio input (they have a mic on them). GrooveIP supports BlueTooth headsets, but under the standard P3113 stack the input isn't enabled...
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And also to enable the normal Phone.apk, which gives you the native dialer and also makes it so you can "call" people by clicking on their numbers from the People app. If you don't have this you'll have to go to your third party app and then find who you wanna call, which is all around less efficient and integrated.
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This is what I get for posting from work, forgot to say what I actually DID! Thanks go to clubtech, who pointed out that the change is inside of framework-res.apk.
My solution was dirt simple: I found out about the trick in the first place because I flashed a P3100 ROM onto my P3113, cuz at that time there was no P3113 available.
This worked fine EXCEPT that the audio input isn't mapped right so your mic doesn't work.
My new "solution" was to steal the framework-res.apk file out of the latest 3100 CM10 ROM.
You can find the file inside the ROM @ <Root Of Zip>\system\framework
I used 7zip to pull the framework-res.apk from the 3100 7-29 zip, and then opened the 3113 7-29 zip in 7-zip, deleted the original framework-res.apk, and replaced it with the 3100 version.
The devices are close enough that this works.
The phone features are turned on and my mic still works.
There's surely a better way to do this, but it works for me for now
BTW, since the tablet ROMs don't include one, here's the "stock" Jellybean texting app, MMS.apk.
I pulled it from a Jellybean ROM for the Galaxy Nexus compiled 2 days ago.
Confirmed its working on my Tab.
I'm using the app GV Integration to make my GV texts show up like regular texts.
Why do this? Cuz it makes widgets and notifications and stuff that depends on the "native" SMS work as expected.
My main impetus for this was to make the XBMC controller app YATSE properly react to text messages
Just wanted to follow up on this, I found a relatively painless way to accomplish this mod.
Attached to a thread on XDA-Devs (where else!) is a really nice tool to make it very easy to n00bs like me to decompile and mod the framework-res.apk easily. This in turn makes enabling the "phone" stuff super easy
See the thread over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823701
The tool is called Framework Flasher 1.1.4 by Wes Foster (wesf90)
Hey Divinity,
It's great that you have shared what you achieved. I am about to buy this tablet.
Could you please make a step-by-step instruction of how to achieve this on the P3113 Tablet?
That would be greatly appreciated. I am a noob so your instruction will be very helpful for me.
Thanks in advance.
Its hard to know what degree of "noob" you are.
To be messing around with making these sorts of modifications, you'll need to at least have rooted your device.
In lieu of that, be aware that there are lots of solutions that involve simply using apps from the marketplace. I actually don't even use this solution anymore, mostly just Google Voice. The Google Voice integration app I posted about doesn't really work the way I'd like, so instead I've been just piping "everything" through GoogleTalk instead.
There's a free web service called GV Max that lets you connect your Google Voice phone number up to your Google Talk account (among other things), allowing you to send / receive SMS messages within any GoogleTalk client. I frequently use this so I can text people from my computers very easily (since I pretty much always have a chat program running). I've been using GVMax off and on for a couple years now, and its pretty great
Occasionally I use Groove IP if I "have to" receive an incoming call on my tablet. Other than that, the stock Google Voice app allows you to make calls without it being a big deal.
All that said, the process of doing the mod is easy, and the thread I linked to contains a step-by-step guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823701
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I'm not, by any means, a developer or affiliated with AirDroid in any way. <--- definitely advertising
I came across this app earlier today and it is honestly one of the most useful apps I've ever seen. It gives one the potential to view his or her messages, calls, contacts, files and everything else on your phone FROM YOUR PC (or Mac) WEB BROWSER. All you have to do is type in a gateway that you get once you open the app on your phone. It'll take you to a log-in screen, which precedes a "desktop" with all of your phone-everything.
One of the coolest things is that it automatically syncs anything you do within the web browser to your phone and vice-versa. I.E. this is one of the few/only app(s) that will show pictures and full contact details within the web browser. Unlike other apps, if you send or receive messages, your phone logs and conversations will also be updated..as if you never used the app to begin with.
Per usual, you need to be connected to the same wifi network from your phone and PC/Mac/iPad/tablet you'll use to "control" your phone.
There aren't any notable downsides that I've read of or come across. This is simply a solid app that has unlimited potential.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sand.airdroid
*Just to clarify, I purposely did not put this in the app section. I'm not attempting to solicit the app, only get the word of mouth out and get a discussion going on how you all feel about AirDroid<--- definitely advertising
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i guess you guys never seen this from 2 years ago? FREE!
Remote Web Desktop
https://market.android.com/details?id=net.xdevelop.rm
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apparently this air drive people just ripped off the idea from Remote Web Desktop
i've been using it since AOSP 2.1
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Awesome app
sent from my real Gs move in silence like lasagna
wow reminds me alot of OSX air drop lol, this is soo cool!
im getting it
Doesn't Kies Air do the same thing?
Scyke said:
Doesn't Kies Air do the same thing?
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As a rule of thumb I delete Kies Air at first because it's bloat to me. But I tried using it as often as I'd use AirDroid. Kies Air is just so slow, laggy and well...bloated. At least the web version. I'm the kind of person who loads saves ALL of his texts. So Kies attempts to automatically load EVERYTHING on your phone at once: texts, calls, music, pictures, videos, files. Software-wise it's not necessarily efficient.
To answer the original question- yes. But this is faster and cleaner in every definition of the words. Much simpler UI with faster transfer speeds and won't hog up your bandwidth because it only loads data as needed.
*Edit from here and below:
I guess the reason for the lag behind Kies Air is due to the fact that it runs a Java applet on your web browser. AirDroid runs a much cleaner JavaScript that's linked with HTML5, as I understand.
It's up to you, of course. But after trying both, I don't think there's any actual competition as to which app is significantly faster and more efficient.
Scyke said:
Doesn't Kies Air do the same thing?
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Yes, in some aspects Kies Air does the same thing.
However, AirDroid is 12094820394823 times faster! The ease of the interface is amazing. It's a truly innovative application if you do a lot of files transfers through your phone. I use my phone like a thumb drive all the time. This only makes it easier. Sending messages while doing work on my laptop without having to type on the phone's keyboard? Yes please.
I would easily pay for this app.
I would like to see a novel contact manager built into the app. Something that is really functional and efficient. We all know that google contacts and android's address book are both a little weak in the functionality department. If the developers of the app can make such a solid app, I'm sure they can come up with a creative contact manager to integrate into AirDroid.
awesome app, but it would be even more awesome if u can fully utilize your phone (like literally browse through phone functions on a PC) on the web browser
StickyK3ys said:
Yes, in some aspects Kies Air does the same thing.
However, AirDroid is 12094820394823 times faster! The ease of the interface is amazing. It's a truly innovative application if you do a lot of files transfers through your phone. I use my phone like a thumb drive all the time. This only makes it easier. Sending messages while doing work on my laptop without having to type on the phone's keyboard? Yes please.
I would easily pay for this app.
I would like to see a novel contact manager built into the app. Something that is really functional and efficient. We all know that google contacts and android's address book are both a little weak in the functionality department. If the developers of the app can make such a solid app, I'm sure they can come up with a creative contact manager to integrate into AirDroid.
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+1 to all of the above
XxGoKoUxX said:
awesome app, but it would be even more awesome if u can fully utilize your phone (like literally browse through phone functions on a PC) on the web browser
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I kinda thought that was part of the gig when I first got it. Nonetheless, this app made my main home screen lol. I guess that's what our awesome HDMI-MHL adapter is for
u kno what would be cool! to bump music, over nfc
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u kno what would be cool! to bump music, over nfc
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Not to sound mean but the 'Thanks' I gave you was on accident lol.
Theoretically music via NFC is the same as Bluetooth right? Unless you're talking about something else
one of the best apps for android.its the first up i restore each time i change ROMs.
simply beautiful.
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one of the best apps for android.its the first up i restore each time i change ROMs.
simply beautiful.
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+1 to that my friend
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Not to sound mean but the 'Thanks' I gave you was on accident lol.
Theoretically music via NFC is the same as Bluetooth right? Unless you're talking about something else
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Hahah OK
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This looks absolutely amazing. They must have spent quite a bit of time to make this app as awesome as it is. And completely free? Crazy.
Which is the only reason I have qualms about it. How can a company invest so much into an app that generates no revenue whatsoever in the Market?
I am always weary of apps that have complete access to all of your personal information (which the app needs to work correctly) and have no obvious avenue for generating revenue.
Maybe I'm missing something here? Are there ads?
i guess you guys never seen this from 2 years ago? FREE!
Remote Web Desktop
https://market.android.com/details?id=net.xdevelop.rm
apparently this air drive people just ripped off the idea from Remote Web Desktop
i've been using it since AOSP 2.1
Thanks for supporting AirDroid. Actually now, AirDroid also supports remote access to your mobile, even when your mobile is not around and not in the same wifi, you can access it to Web browser by enabling the auto wake up mode in APP.
There should be a screen viewer option.
Nice work
http://i.imgur.com/0OBoXTC.jpg @ted77usa
StickyK3ys said:
Yes, in some aspects Kies Air does the same thing.
I would like to see a novel contact manager built into the app. Something that is really functional and efficient. We all know that google contacts and android's address book are both a little weak in the functionality department. If the developers of the app can make such a solid app, I'm sure they can come up with a creative contact manager to integrate into AirDroid.
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To the first point, Kies is Samsung proprietary. They may do similar things and Airdroid is faster, but for the HTC phones I have, Kies really lacks in the "working" dept.
Secondarily, I am unsure if your statement includes the web-based Google Contacts in desktop browser but I find it quite sufficient for my needs and is obviously synced with Android if you use Google apps.
For every other need, I would imagine the import/export functionality of Google Contacts would make it easily portable to other platforms and then able to be ported back. "Insert simple script here " tacked on to said platform enables full auto sync.
A new app on the Play Store that I'm excited about.
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Background
I use Google Voice as my primary number, and it's been frustrating that Google has failed to add very many interesting (necessary?) features to their Google Voice app. In addition, they don't have a public API, so it's difficult for developers to work with it. I've been searching for solutions all over the interwebz since Google Voice was Grand Central.
I've been using this app for a few weeks, and have since reached out to the dev, offering help with testing and offer to possibly work with him on design aspects in the future.
Why I think this app is great
• One app to manage your SMS messages (Carrier & Google Voice)
• Google Voice popups and quick reply without another 3rd party app
• Uses your stock messaging database to store messages (backup apps work)
• Very nice to have a Google Voice alternative that actually works
The Futurree
In speaking with the developer, once all bugs are ironed out, he's got plans for future theme addons, more popup options, GV Message sync (difficult).. and possibly *optional* FB Messenger and Twitter DM integration. I've already themed myself a version which I'll post up.
The developer will also be adding LightFlow support soon.
Important Details
The app is a TRIAL, and subsequently is available through in-app purchase.
I'm posting this because I know you hardcore GV users would probably like to check this out... and we all know that Google Play store discovery is still terrible.
Current Bugs
The only bug I've encountered is, when a message is sent while in Landscape mode, it will be sent through your carrier. The dev has acknowledged this and it should be fixed within the next day or two. If you're on Gingerbread, it should work fine, but feel free to chime in if you have issues.
I've also read that MMS may have issues, especially if you're trying to send directly from the Gallery.
Download
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Hope you guys enjoy this as much as I am.
My Inverted version of the app:
I'll add screen shots later.
You'll need to uninstall your current version (don't worry about backing up data.. Will be resynced).
Download inverted
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Note, you won't receive play store updates for this app if you have the inverted version installed, but I'll usually have it updated within hours after a new ver drops.
very nice, will try it out.
Tried it and it's a no-joy for me
I have a Samsung GT-i9100 International (SIM Free) with a pay-as-you-go AT&T GoPhone sim in it.
I just put Android 4.1.2 I9100XWLSE_I9100OXELS6_ALO.zip (I know how to use Odin,etc) and rooted it with CWM-SuperSU-v0.99.zip thru recovery and off the sd card. Works perfect, not I can us my TB Pro w/root on the phone,
and I got the phone working sweet (I am in the USA and did not want to wait for a OTA or KIES upgrade)
I have GrooVe IP to use Google Voice to make/receive calls over 3G/H+and avoid the $1.00 a day and $0.10 a min AT&T charges.
I text thru GV too. I only give out my GV # because honestly why would I use the carriers # and pay to use a regular phone.
I have looked all over to integrate the native text app into GV and I read that this app would do it.
It does not (for me). I basically have a stock ROM rooted with a IP telephone program on it and the data packages are $25 for 1 GB and then I buy a 5MB package for $5 every 30 days and the amount rolls over. So a cell phone for $5 a month, yeah, on AT&T, YEAH! but this app does not integrate with the stock/plain messaging app.
I have followed all the instruction, disable notifications,etc. as listed on the PLAY store and the website.
It is (from what I can tell) work with 4.1.2 because the screen shots he's got up there do not look like the one's I have and I did not see anywhere that it asked to use GV for native SMS.
So maybe someone has seen this, done this and got it working......
any info?
thanks
philmiami
ok I guess I figured it out
This does NOT integrate into the EXISTING text app. It is separate entirely. So I just move the icon for the stock one from the menu bar and put this one down here. Disable in GV like it says and it works as described....
Guess i should have spent more time with it, good thing I got 3 different cell phones to work with to implement this.
I really want to save my $0.20 per message
PS:
Got it working it just replaces the native messaging app, works with GV and bam......free SMS :good::good::good:
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A new app on the Play Store that I'm excited about.
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Interesting. Those of us using GV have but few choices indeed. I haven't looked yet so questions might be answered elsewhere I suppose. Still..
How does this app know about new texts? Does it check directly or does it rely on GV notification?
Are the popups user definable? (Droid Notify comes to mind)
Is there a repeat reminder option? (Droid Notify comes to mind)
How much memory does it require while monitoring events? Is it a service or can it be easily terminated by the minfree manager?
How long is the trial?
I gotta go and read more before asking more questions..
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Interesting. Those of us using GV have but few choices indeed. I haven't looked yet so questions might be answered elsewhere I suppose. Still..
How does this app know about new texts? Does it check directly or does it rely on GV notification?
Are the popups user definable? (Droid Notify comes to mind)
Is there a repeat reminder option? (Droid Notify comes to mind)
How much memory does it require while monitoring events? Is it a service or can it be easily terminated by the minfree manager?
How long is the trial?
I gotta go and read more before asking more questions..
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I'm replying with Tapa talk, so bare with me
1. AFAIK, the app is dependent on the Google Voice app, which needs to be installed and configured. (See play store notes). It does not rely on GV notification, though.
2-3.Popups are not yet user definable, but I've spoken with the developer and have suggested this. Options in droid notify, notifierpro, and light flow are my inspiration
4. Memory as a cached process right now is 14MB. I'd have to check ROM Toolbox to see the actual events, but compared to other apps I've tried, it's relatively light and doesn't require extensive permissions. FWIW, I'm using a Note2.
5. The original trial was a small number of messages. I talked to the dev and he extended it. It could still be longer and I'm going to push for that. I bought it the first day tho.. I actually paid $8 . Lol. I highly recommended he lower it, and he did.. But totally worth it for me either way.
Hope that answers your questions
philmiami said:
Got it working it just replaces the native messaging app, works with GV and bam......free SMS :good::good::good:
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Sounds like you've got an interesting setup!
Glad it's working - will definitely be reading ur post after work.
Just updated 2nd post with themed version.
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I'm replying with Tapa talk, so bare with me
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Yes, we all have these little flaws..
1. AFAIK, the app is dependent on the Google Voice app, which needs to be installed and configured. (See play store notes). It does not rely on GV notification, though.
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Interesting. Yes, I should have read more first.
2-3.Popups are not yet user definable, but I've spoken with the developer and have suggested this. Options in droid notify, notifierpro, and light flow are my inspiration
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Sounds good. Although I do like the Droid Notify popups I can live with a simple taskbar notification. What is important (to me) is the ability to set reminders for every X minutes, ideally different first sms and voicemail. If the dev would consider adding a missed call reminder as well I could take another app out.
4. Memory as a cached process right now is 14MB. I'd have to check ROM Toolbox to see the actual events, but compared to other apps I've tried, it's relatively light and doesn't require extensive permissions. FWIW, I'm using a Note2.
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Not too bad, especially if I can remove or even or two things. I am on an HTC HD2 which is a bit memory starved with everything I am doing.
5. The original trial was a small number of messages. I talked to the dev and he extended it. It could still be longer and I'm going to push for that. I bought it the first day tho.. I actually paid $8 . Lol. I highly recommended he lower it, and he did.. But totally worth it for me either way.
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Workable.
Hope that answers your questions
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Yes, thanks, but I am known for coming up with more.
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$8 bucks for such an app? wow, maybe i'll pass and use stock messaging + gv native app.
n/m
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$8 bucks for such an app? wow, maybe i'll pass and use stock messaging + gv native app.
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4.99 .. not 8.
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SmartMessenger
Aim : To be the most visually customisable, adaptive and secure SMS app there is. Oh and the best looking
Open Beta
There is now a play store listing for SmartMessenger without so anyone can try the beta and not have to join google+ Please note I still consider this a beta (but obviously open to anyone) so any suggestions or requests, comment in this thread. The G+ beta group (restricted) is still live and will get early versions.
The kind of input I'm after is from "you" the potential user:
Help me prioritise the development and order of features
Suggest corrections, amendments or additional features
Find and eliminate bugs
few random screenshots:
Features and Status
SMS messaging and emoticons
MSMS (Media\Link SMS)
This is also done and uses google drive to send full size images (as doc link) inside the sms. This to me is better than MMS that costs way too much here in the UK and has very silly limitations. Ability to send any type of file and maybe any size, connection allowing! The other individual if not using smart messenger will get a link, if they do use an app capable of resolving links, it will be presented in a icon form!
SmartMesseges SMS
This is a special type of message that will still be handled over sms, more info soon
More details shortly
Procedural UI generation
This is done and working, it's what the current themes use. Basically it builds android drawable resources at runtime. So no static xml or bitmaps. The advantage of this is not space, or speed for that matter. But it will allow me to implement a theme/visual creator that will allow users to create and mod any aspect of the visual UI
This also breaks from the norm. as I don't agree with lots of googles own guidelines, I want to be able to have 1 handed operation on my phone, thats why this app doesn't currently follow the actionbar pattern, well that an many other reasons
There is an online theme library currently of about 8 or 9, always up for suggestions
TO DO: Advanced in-app theme creator
Message Box Management
Can currently create message boxes and have them as targets/destinations for messages. Locking features are there, I'm just looking at the best ways to allow unlock/unhide while it's not apparent that anything is hidden
TO DO: Enable security and locking features, implement global unlocks
Filters and Rules
This allows creation of simple, but powerful rules to control anything from message box distribution, forwarding, autoreply, notification controls to even daisy chaining units together and having multiple units spider the messages. Also includes REGEX triggers too
Rules can be used to trigger custom reactions, notifications, LED colors, auto replies and forwarders etc
Schedules
As it stands you can schedule texts and have any time periods you want, and add ending conditions like amount or date/time
TO DO: Test and maybe add adaptive elements to it, such as a variable part that is populated based of some rule (like happy Xth brithday) and it fills in X
Notifications
The notifications are controllable per person via rules and filters, and can trigger and override all options with things like custom vibration patterns sounds popups etc
Secret Messagebox and Messages mode (Blind Security)
Want to hide something and not show that it's hidden ? Watch the security vid for an overview!
Must Watch
Beta
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Development
PlayStore Download
Bug Tracking/Feature Requests
Google+ Group
Google+ Beta Group
I'll try it out
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Honestly it looks amazing and I'd love to test it out. The one feature that is basically a necessity for me is available in textra in that the app automatically turns on the mobile data temporarily to get an MMS. It was a huge pain for me since I tend to have mobile data turned off because I have a limited data plan. If that was in this I'd easily replace textra with this.
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I'll try it out
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haha... hang on, I'm still sorting the 1st 3 posts with info etc here watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbPIRu8Mkm8&feature=youtu.be
I will gladly test this looks amazing
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Impatient to try it ...MMS are also included or just SMS?
Thanks
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Mchasard said:
Impatient to try it ...MMS are also included or just SMS?
Thanks
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NO MMS, not even sure I want them to be honest, slow, small and costly... better to use the GDrive link sms that are in SmartMessenger... but I'm more than open to consider it. This is still very early in development, so anything that is worth it, I will add for the masses
I understand that it can intercept SMS messages and be used as the default texting app, but does it work the same way with Google voice texts?
I'm in. Using sliding messaging right now but this looks promising!
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I understand that it can intercept SMS messages and be used as the default texting app, but does it work the same way with Google voice texts?
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Not at all, ONLY SMS afaik
While in testing always better to set the op mode to "Process and Passthrough" anyways, so it doesn't consume any messages, if you're not sure that is
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Honestly it looks amazing and I'd love to test it out. The one feature that is basically a necessity for me is available in textra in that the app automatically turns on the mobile data temporarily to get an MMS. It was a huge pain for me since I tend to have mobile data turned off because I have a limited data plan. If that was in this I'd easily replace textra with this.
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IIRC I wanted something similar, and also to do BAND switching. Unfortunately, google took out the api's required to do that, so that it would be ALWAYS a user choice. So not sure if that will ever be possible again (post gingerbread)
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Honestly it looks amazing and I'd love to test it out. The one feature that is basically a necessity for me is available in textra in that the app automatically turns on the mobile data temporarily to get an MMS. It was a huge pain for me since I tend to have mobile data turned off because I have a limited data plan. If that was in this I'd easily replace textra with this.
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Actually thinking about it, DO NOT TRY SmartMessenger image sending, cause it will send (until I put some controls in) FULL SIZE images. So not nice when your phone takes 2-5mb image potentially and sends it for sharing to GDrive. I will add to the dev list, image size control See I never thought about limited data caps previously, what with my unlimited data plan
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Actually thinking about it, DO NOT TRY SmartMessenger image sending, cause it will send (until I put some controls in) FULL SIZE images. So not nice when your phone takes 2-5mb image potentially and sends it for sharing to GDrive. I will add to the dev list, image size control See I never thought about limited data caps previously, what with my unlimited data plan
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I've never had a dev convince me not to try an app haha but I absolutely appreciate the honesty and good points you brought up. I'll keep an eye out for your future work and pass this one on to my friends.
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I've never had a dev convince me not to try an app haha but I absolutely appreciate the honesty and good points you brought up. I'll keep an eye out for your future work and pass this one on to my friends.
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Well you have some valid points, I should never assume that data is all free and limitless But like I say, watch out for next few days, cause I will add some image limiting to the attachments, so maybe I will have size/dimension resampling, like resize to 8k or something Be nice for user to control the data flow, I can imagine you have to be VERY careful because of how apps abuse and use data these days
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Well you have some valid points, I should never assume that data is all free and limitless But like I say, watch out for next few days, cause I will add some image limiting to the attachments, so maybe I will have size/dimension resampling, like resize to 8k or something Be nice for user to control the data flow, I can imagine you have to be VERY careful because of how apps abuse and use data these days
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Stateside, there's only 2 networks that still have unlimited data and both have horrendous service so I'm stuck in a 2 gb plan. I subscribed to the thread so I'll definitely keep an eye on it and see what develops. Overall, watching the data isn't too bad since I just keep mobile data off and turn it on as needed but I still need to keep an eye out. Oh well, ces la vie.
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ICS error
OK glad I released this, I did about the noobiest thing I could do, which will FC on any ICS phone, have fixed now, but play may take a while to dist. to the servers. Sorry for any probs
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haha... hang on, I'm still sorting the 1st 3 posts with info etc here watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbPIRu8Mkm8&feature=youtu.be
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Lol! Jumped the gun a bit huh?!
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Absolutely love this so far. One cosmetic thing is the spacing when you send a picture. The bubble is HUGE. needs to be slimmed down
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This thread is dedicated for the skyrockets no longer being used for service. The purpose of this is to see what kind of life we can give this phone other than keeping it in a drawer. as of now this does not have any original development but ideas and hopefully we will get some developments with this. please feel free to share your ideas, links and screenshots of things you may be doing with your device if it's inactive.
1. XBMC
Whether you are wanting to use the device around the house or on the tv xbmc is an awesome solution for your media needs. I have a media server in my house with dvd .iso's, music, and games all being delivered to my networked devices so one cool way to access the media is xbmc. for those of you who don't know xbmc is xbox media center it was originated for the original xbox for those who moded. It has evolved into one of the best open source multi-platform media solutions around.
I downloaded the app from here personally I'm using 13 RC1 gotham the app itself seems to be downloading as a .txt so you need to rename it to .apk before installing. once installed launch the app and any media on the device will be detected any media you have on your home network can be set up to access it by browsing to the source. The app will play most popular formats and will play .iso videos directly. If anyone runs stock firmware I'd like some input on if you can use mhl with xbmc as well as a bt mouse and keyboard giving you a decent tv experience on the cheap.
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2. Child Friendly device (WIP)
For me this is going to be a proof of concept more than an actual thing. My son is 4 years old and sometimes to entertain him in public settings or if he's been good we let him play games on one of our phones for a while. this obviously has some issues since he's an evil genius and likes to tinker. I'll be using nova launcher prime for this use case. First add any apps you wish to allow the child to use to your homescreen, delete the app launcher button and hide the notification bar (set gestures as needed). make sure you hide any apps you don't want them using from the app drawer, also make sure you have play set up to ask for your password every time, alot of the free apps have links to other apps which they try and buy (trust me my son pulled it off on the wife's iphone). The pics are just a quick mock up of what you can do to handle most of the little things kids try to do. i had two finger swipe up for app drawer and down for notifications hide anything i don't want him using and I have my password set so he can't buy anything without me.
im fimiliar w/xbmc , openelec, xbmcbuntu etc. but i never tried the android version, which one did u try, the arm or x86.
btw on firefox they both dl as an apk file
I was using chrome So that may be why, arm is the one you need for the rocket.
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Nice note for those at home. If you rename libril.so it kills the no sim warning and stops the cell radios. So for unused devices it will do wonders for extending battery life.
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I use mine as an MP3 player/GPS. I removed all telephone/SMS/MMS related apps from vincom's superlite AOKP and get 5-6 days on a charge with 3.5-4 hours screen on time, and with GPS and Bluetooth always on. I didn't rename libril.so like you suggested but it doesn't seem to search for a signal nor does the status bar have that black triangle you get when you don't have a signal. I've been running it like this for about a month. @TheCybertronian, I think this thread is a good idea. This phone still rocks even when you don't use it as a phone anymore. :thumbup: Now I'm wondering what else I might be able to do with it...
@1BadWolf I was never a fan of the rockets audio quality so I used my evo 4g for mp3 but I will do a write up for it in the next few days.
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@1BadWolf I was never a fan of the rockets audio quality so I used my evo 4g for mp3 but I will do a write up for it in the next few days.
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No, it's not great but installing King Beatz helped it out a lot.
My plan is to build a mount for it and put in my car semi-permanently as a digital dash using Torque and a BT OBD-II adapter, and navigation using CoPilot. I also want to try using a mini BT keyboard/mouse to control it, so that could get interesting.
@rpr69 if you do id like to see you do a step by step with materials used and pictures, think you can pull that off?
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@rpr69 if you do id like to see you do a step by step with materials used and pictures, think you can pull that off?
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Can I? Of course. Will I? I'll do my best. I'm still missing a few parts, but I'll probably start looking at it this weekend. There will be some software components as well, I'll try and list them.
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No, it's not great but installing King Beatz helped it out a lot.
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I have tried installing KingBeatz (current version, test version and 2 older versions) from http://goo.gl/C83XrX (xda link just shorter). I can't seem to find it in my app drawer or in Apollo's settings. Can you give a play by play for your install method (maybe with flashable zips)? I see the Beatz app as a system app when using "System App uninstaller" from the Play Store.
I removed Apollo and DSP Manager to see if that helped, no dice. Maybe because I'm on an Avatar 4.3 rom?
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I have tried installing KingBeatz (current version, test version and 2 older versions) from http://goo.gl/C83XrX (xda link just shorter). I can't seem to find it in my app drawer or in Apollo's settings. Can you give a play by play for your install method (maybe with flashable zips)? I see the Beatz app as a system app when using "System App uninstaller" from the Play Store.
I removed Apollo and DSP Manager to see if that helped, no dice. Maybe because I'm on an Avatar 4.3 rom?
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I just flashed the zip posted in the thread that you linked. The app that it installed is called Beatz and is similar to DSP manager but with a few changes. You'll need to have one of the MP3 players listed in the op of the King Beatz thread, though because the zip file doesn't install a separate player.
Baby Mon/Security Cam
I realize I'm not breaking the mold here, but I've always kind of thought that I'd use it in conjunction with a IP Webcam App to serve as a security camera or possibly baby monitor if we end up with another baby. In combination with DDNS it can be used remotely and cost next to nothing to maintain.
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I realize I'm not breaking the mold here, but I've always kind of thought that I'd use it in conjunction with a IP Webcam App to serve as a security camera or possibly baby monitor if we end up with another baby. In combination with DDNS it can be used remotely and cost next to nothing to maintain.
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Do it provide instructions and pics and I can add it I'm still thinking of creative things.
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Do it provide instructions and pics and I can add it I'm still thinking of creative things.
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If I get time I'll try to throw together some screenshots and walk-throughs but it's really pretty simple. The app I've used is here , it's easy enough for anyone to use and can be viewed on a browser. If you get on your router and forward the port you choose (8080 by default) to your phone's IP you can view remotely. It even has a dedicated mode, which I've not played with but is what planted the seed to begin with.
its pretty easy
1st find your phones ip address
from phone open ip webcam> start server
pc browser "put phones ip address here w/out quotes":8080
webcam browser window>video>browser or which ever method works for you
you can record, take snapshots etc
Just found this thread - good idea. Sometimes I use the SR as a backup with Magic Jack while I'm fixing whatever I was trying to do with the new one (SGS3)
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Realized that my Skyrocket had been sitting in a drawer for almost two years now and I want to make good use of it. This is exactly the type of thread that I was looking for when I came back to this forum. Any other ideas floating around out there??
Well..for those who like to play around with stuff, this phone has all the required hardware for packet injection and WiFi monitor mode. Using the bcmon app you can enable and disable monitor mode on the WiFi chip.. Cool for penetration testing and general fun. Also I was able to get Kali Linux running and on-screen viewable using linuxdeploy app and vncviewer.. Runs pretty decent. Also I agree the audio on the skyrocket is awful. I may check that kingbeatz thing out.
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I was curious what the killer, must install apps are for everyone. I am not talking about Facebook, Instagram, or system apps that allow for rooting or managing space, but the Apps that make your life on your device much more enjoyable.
I will share mine:
1- Go Launcher. I love this System. Highly customizable and easily usable.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex
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2- 1 Tap Quick Bar. This adds a quick launch bar at the bottom of the pull-down menu. Available anywhere you are in Android. I keep stuff like my Camera, a Calculator, a shopping list app, etc there.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rootuninstaller.onetap
3- Power Line. This simple app provides very light lines that indicate the various systems on your phone. I only use the power line, but there are a lot to choose from. Nice that it is always there, to see instantly what your levels are.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.inline
4- Link Bubble. A handy app that provides a quick way of opening links without leaving the app you are already in.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.linkbubble.license.playstore
5- Launch X. A great way of organizing app on your home screens. I use it in scrolling. Saves a lot of Home page space.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.yuvalsharon.android.launchx.free
Well that is it for now. These are the basic apps that I always use to make life more enjoyable and convenient in my various Android devices. How about you? What do you use and have to install?
Swipepad,i guess i cant my phone without this,as with any large phone, using one handed made possible, multi task from any aap one handed, once ur used to this,u will never open ur app drawer,!
This is how it looks once set!!
sanghaviraj said:
Swipepad,i guess i cant my phone without this,as with any large phone, using one handed made possible, multi task from any aap one handed, once ur used to this,u will never open ur app drawer,!
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This is how it looks once set!!
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Interesting.
I'm surprised to be saying this but Microsoft's Arrow launcher is a treat on the Note 5. Looks classy on the large screen and its focus on usage patterns works quite well for me.
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Swiftkey is a MUST!
I came from Blackberry originally, and I got spoiled by the awesome word prediction and learning autocorrect. When I got my first Droid 2, I missed the smarter typing and I searched for a replacement. I bought SwiftKey when it was premium and never looked back. Through a Droid 3, RAZR HD, and now Note 5, it has learned how I type and saved me lots of embarrassment. And since I went premium back in the day, I get no ads. Ever.
If you're a family guy like me, Cozi Family Scheduler is also a must. With 2 teenagers, both spouses working, and all sorts of things to coordinate, Cozi makes it easy for all of us to stay on the same page without trying to flip through shared Google calendars. The widgets are useful on Note 5, but the typeface is very small on widgets.
In Australia currently the nova prime is only 20c I think it's best bargain app. Definitely worth it...been using it to replace touch wiz.
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I'm surprised to be saying this but Microsoft's Arrow launcher is a treat on the Note 5. Looks classy on the large screen and its focus on usage patterns works quite well for me.
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Nice looking Launcher.
Gpettit1 said:
I came from Blackberry originally, and I got spoiled by the awesome word prediction and learning autocorrect. When I got my first Droid 2, I missed the smarter typing and I searched for a replacement. I bought SwiftKey when it was premium and never looked back. Through a Droid 3, RAZR HD, and now Note 5, it has learned how I type and saved me lots of embarrassment. And since I went premium back in the day, I get no ads. Ever.
I hear good things about SwiftKey. I tried it a few months ago, and never really got a good feel for it myself.
If you're a family guy like me, Cozi Family Scheduler is also a must. With 2 teenagers, both spouses working, and all sorts of things to coordinate, Cozi makes it easy for all of us to stay on the same page without trying to flip through shared Google calendars. The widgets are useful on Note 5, but the typeface is very small on widgets.
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A very nice option to keep the screen time under control.
kuailan said:
In Australia currently the nova prime is only 20c I think it's best bargain app. Definitely worth it...been using it to replace touch wiz.
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My brother uses and swears by Nova.
One of the reasons I prefer Android over iOS is the way that you can highly customize your phone/tablet to your desires.
Now I know this one also require the hardware...but I do recommend getting one.
I just got my gear vr...and it's really cool. My kids love them. There are a lot of free download too just like in playstore.
kuailan said:
Now I know this one also require the hardware...but I do recommend getting one.
I just got my gear vr...and it's really cool. My kids love them. There are a lot of free download too just like in playstore.
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I have yet to play around with this, sounds exciting though.
Thanks for those who submitted. Anyone else?
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Thanks for those who submitted. Anyone else?
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How to enable data from home screen or notifications, i am using note 5 at&t and i cant find it, please help.
Widgets
saketh333 said:
How to enable data from home screen or notifications, i am using note 5 at&t and i cant find it, please help.
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Tasker. I freaking love this app. It automates almost everything on my phone:
-Silences my ringer and notification volume when I set the phone face down.
-When I receive a text, my TTS engine says "Sir, you have received a message from %sender" and if the contact isn't stored in my contact list, it replaces the %sender variable with "an unknown person"
-When I leave the house, it turns off my wifi, turns my ringtone and notification volume up, and turns Bluetooth on, but if Bluetooth doesn't connect in 7 minutes, it turns back off again
-When I get to work, it sets my phone on silent and texts my wife one of 5 random messages letting her know I'm at work
-When I get back home, it turns wifi back on and connects, speaks "welcome home, sir" and turns my notification and ringtone volume down a bit
-In the morning when I dismiss my alarm, it speaks one of 3 random "good morning" messages, and then proceeds to read off the weather for the day, tells me how many appointments I have, what they are, and when.
-When I plug headphones in, it displays a popup menu of apps that I use with my headphones (Pandora, youtube, any of my emulators)
-Controls my GPS so that it's only on when I need it, like navigating with Google maps or taking location-tagged photos, and then turns it back off when I'm done
-Reboots my phone once a week to keep the OS fresh.
There is literally nothing you can't do with this app and its plugins. I recommend it for everyone. Super steep learning curve, but there are tons of tutorials on line. 10000% worth the $3 it costs.
easyHome by @Jawomo
With easyHome you don't have to press your homebutton anymore! Just touch it slightly like on screen navigation buttons!!
Experience your Galaxy in a completely new way!
No clicking noise, no hard pressing! Easy, intuitive yet awesome!
Extend the homebutton functionality if you like and lock your phone with a touch!
XDA⤵
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3230511
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jamworks.easyhome
Snap. Access widgets by pulling down right side of screen. It's scrollable and cleans up your screens
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Tasker. I freaking love this app. It automates almost everything on my phone:
-Silences my ringer and notification volume when I set the phone face down.
-When I receive a text, my TTS engine says "Sir, you have received a message from %sender" and if the contact isn't stored in my contact list, it replaces the %sender variable with "an unknown person"
-When I leave the house, it turns off my wifi, turns my ringtone and notification volume up, and turns Bluetooth on, but if Bluetooth doesn't connect in 7 minutes, it turns back off again
-When I get to work, it sets my phone on silent and texts my wife one of 5 random messages letting her know I'm at work
-When I get back home, it turns wifi back on and connects, speaks "welcome home, sir" and turns my notification and ringtone volume down a bit
-In the morning when I dismiss my alarm, it speaks one of 3 random "good morning" messages, and then proceeds to read off the weather for the day, tells me how many appointments I have, what they are, and when.
-When I plug headphones in, it displays a popup menu of apps that I use with my headphones (Pandora, youtube, any of my emulators)
-Controls my GPS so that it's only on when I need it, like navigating with Google maps or taking location-tagged photos, and then turns it back off when I'm done
-Reboots my phone once a week to keep the OS fresh.
There is literally nothing you can't do with this app and its plugins. I recommend it for everyone. Super steep learning curve, but there are tons of tutorials on line. 10000% worth the $3 it costs.
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Man.. You don't have a phone any more.. You have a robot!..
sosimple said:
Man.. You don't have a phone any more.. You have a robot!..
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That was the idea lol. The nerd in me went and found the TTS engine that sounded the most like Iron Man's Jarvis, William from CereProc, and every time I program a speak action, I try and imagine how Jarvis would say it. I wanted my phone to be as much like a personal assistant as I could make it.
I also plan on creating a task so that, when I'm in the car and I receive a text, Jarvis will tell me that a text was received and ask if I want him to read it to me. If I reply "yes" he'll read the message then ask if I want to respond but if I reply "no" he'll ask if I want to be reminded of the text when I'm not driving. If I reply "yes" to responding, He'll listen for me to speak the message and then send it. If I reply "yes" to the reminder, when I get out of the car, he'll say "Sir, you still have # unread text message(s)"
I also want to do something similar with calls.
All you need is Tasker, AutoVoice and maybe AutoInput and AutoNotification.