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It's as close to microsoft office as I've seen on android. Holy cow, even ctrl+a, ctrl+c, and ctrl+v work. You can even control the page layouts, fonts, color, etc. I mean, everything is there.
And it's only 99 cents!
I don't understand why it's not mentioned more. The developers obviously put a lot of thought into this very useful app.
Note: I own quickoffice HD, doc2go, thinkfree, and office suit pro 5, in addition to kingsoft. The point is I know what I'm talking about.
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It's as close to microsoft office as I've seen on android. Holy cow, even ctrl+a, ctrl+c, and ctrl+v work. You can even control the page layouts, fonts, color, etc. I mean, everything is there.
And it's only 99 cents!
I don't understand why it's not mentioned more. The developers obviously put a lot of thought into this very useful app.
Note: I own quickoffice HD, doc2go, thinkfree, and office suit pro 5, in addition to kingsoft. The point is I know what I'm talking about.
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The permissions grant access to your email user name and password.
Why?
sixcoronas said:
The permissions grant access to your email user name and password.
Why?
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Where does it say this?
Interesting..considering its more known for its Chinese translate programs..and its kingsoft office suit for the Chinese pc market..
Will check it out..
Permissions are a bit of a worry thru..
Post back lator once had a look..
Edit: brought it and it does give you the options to opt in or out for sending usage data back..
I compared it to a few other's and don't feel threatened by it..
Still this would where it would be nice to have a firewall in place..
any thoughts on that? - know of any for android?
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goodintentions,
I noticed some reviews in the Android Market that say that the spreadsheet doesn't do formulas.
If this is correct, that's a big omission.
Could you please try a couple of formulas to see if this is true?
Thanks,
Eric
ebsebs said:
goodintentions,
I noticed some reviews in the Android Market that say that the spreadsheet doesn't do formulas.
If this is correct, that's a big omission.
Could you please try a couple of formulas to see if this is true?
Thanks,
Eric
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Will do.
Before I do this, just so you know that there is no 1 perfect office app for android yet. What I do is I use a combo of apps for my needs. For example, thinkfree has the best excel spreadsheet out there. Don't even try to argue with me. It is the only one that displays everything in an excel spreadsheet, even those bubble comments you put in as well as arrows and stuff and photos. Check it out.
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Thinkfree's word sucks, though. It doesn't even have wordwrap. Your words will be cut off right in the middle of the word so that half the word is on one line and the other in the next line.
Kingsoft's word seems to be the best.
Office suite pro 5's powerpoint seems to be the best. I'm still testing them out.
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Just tested. While it will display the formula results correctly if you just open up a file pre-edited. But it will not allow you to add a formula. So, for example if you create an xls sheet on your pc with "=5+2" in one of the cells and then save it and transfer to your TF, kingsoft will show "7" in that cell. But if you use your TF to put in "=5+2" kingsoft will show it as "=5+2" in that cell. If you try to open up the cell that had "=5+2" from the pc, it will say "unsupported data type".
Again, I use a combo of apps for my needs. Thinkfree has the most complete xls support. Kingsoft has the most complete doc support. And office suite pro 5 has the most complete ppt support, although I sometimes also use do2go for ppt.
goodintentions said:
It's as close to microsoft office as I've seen on android. Holy cow, even ctrl+a, ctrl+c, and ctrl+v work. You can even control the page layouts, fonts, color, etc. I mean, everything is there.
And it's only 99 cents!
I don't understand why it's not mentioned more. The developers obviously put a lot of thought into this very useful app.
Note: I own quickoffice HD, doc2go, thinkfree, and office suit pro 5, in addition to kingsoft. The point is I know what I'm talking about.
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control+a, control+c, and control+v are supposed to work in just about every text area that isn't Really Frakking Weirdo.
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goodintentions said:
Just tested. While it will display the formula results correctly if you just open up a file pre-edited. But it will not allow you to add a formula. So, for example if you create an xls sheet on your pc with "=5+2" in one of the cells and then save it and transfer to your TF, kingsoft will show "7" in that cell. But if you use your TF to put in "=5+2" kingsoft will show it as "=5+2" in that cell. If you try to open up the cell that had "=5+2" from the pc, it will say "unsupported data type".
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Thanks for the fast reply!
Kingsoft may not be the bext XLS choice, but it's Word module sounds excellent, and since the price is certainly right, I'll get it. Thinkfree XLS support does look impressive, though. Between Kingsoft, Polaris, and QuickOfffice Pro HD, I'll make do.
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Eric
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Thanks for the fast reply!
Kingsoft may not be the bext XLS choice, but it's Word module sounds excellent, and since the price is certainly right, I'll get it. Thinkfree XLS support does look impressive, though. Between Kingsoft, Polaris, and QuickOfffice Pro HD, I'll make do.
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Eric
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Just a warning for you. There is a bug in Polaris that randomly kills your document. Since it strikes at random, its not very well documented. Furthermore, for some damn reason, the document you created, worked on, and saved will sometimes only show up half way if you're trying to print. Again, this strikes at random, so no doubt most people have not experienced this. I'd stay away from Polaris just to be safe.
PS Ruined one of my presentations.
Droidwall
dgcruzing said:
Interesting..considering its more known for its Chinese translate programs..and its kingsoft office suit for the Chinese pc market..
Will check it out..
Permissions are a bit of a worry thru..
Post back lator once had a look..
Edit: brought it and it does give you the options to opt in or out for sending usage data back..
I compared it to a few other's and don't feel threatened by it..
Still this would where it would be nice to have a firewall in place..
any thoughts on that? - know of any for android?
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Going a little off topic sorry.. but I thought would answer my own question so that others could see..
found this.. looks interesting and could do what I was asking above as a firewall..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17993014&postcount=1
http://code.google.com/p/droidwall/
I can't seem to get the app to download on my tablet (stock unrooted). It keeps force closing the market as soon as I click download as it is about to load the permissions. Is this happening to anyone else?
Do animations work with powerpoint slides?
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I can't seem to get the app to download on my tablet (stock unrooted). It keeps force closing the market as soon as I click download as it is about to load the permissions. Is this happening to anyone else?
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There's a bug in the market app that force closes when you're trying to install certain apps. There's a way around this. Go to market.android.com and install from there.
Regarding that bug about Polaris, I think it also corrupts file formats.. I wrote a document on docs2go, it was fine for the three days I used it, but I decided to open it with Polaris so I could check how many pages it turned out to be. Lo and behold, all I did was save the file before turning off Polaris, boom, next time I attempted to open it, "unsupported file format."
Anyway, at least I learned to save my files in Google Docs now.
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Regarding that bug about Polaris, I think it also corrupts file formats.. I wrote a document on docs2go, it was fine for the three days I used it, but I decided to open it with Polaris so I could check how many pages it turned out to be. Lo and behold, all I did was save the file before turning off Polaris, boom, next time I attempted to open it, "unsupported file format."
Anyway, at least I learned to save my files in Google Docs now.
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That's what I mean by killing your file. Now, I'm pretty good at recovering corrupted files. But polaris does something that makes the file unrecoverable.
Stay away from it like the plague.
goodintentions said:
That's what I mean by killing your file. Now, I'm pretty good at recovering corrupted files. But polaris does something that makes the file unrecoverable.
Stay away from it like the plague.
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vim and emacs + {insert markup and presentation languages of choice} ftw .
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how can i make the program to show hebrew properly? the words showing up upside down. like if it was english so "house" will become "esuoh".
its not a R2L \ L2R issue.
Have you checked out my comparison of the office suites? I just bought Kingsoft and will check it out
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Note: I own quickoffice HD, doc2go, thinkfree, and office suit pro 5, in addition to kingsoft. The point is I know what I'm talking about.
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I've got a Excel spreadsheet and no matter what office "clone" product I use, the spreadsheet will NOT open on any of them. The only one I need any of them to open and it does not. Bummer.
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I've got a Excel spreadsheet and no matter what office "clone" product I use, the spreadsheet will NOT open on any of them. The only one I need any of them to open and it does not. Bummer.
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Have you tried thinkfree?
Look, android devs have only had half a year to work on an office app for android tablets. Microsoft has ha like 20 years to perfect their office.
You need to use a combo of office apps for your needs.
For example, I use thinkfree office for excel because it's the most complete. Check out the attached screenshots of thinkfree showing a microsoft excel file.
I use kingsoft for word processing because it's got the most friendly interface.
For powerpoint, I go back and forth between them all.
I have/had:
* the Ipad 1 32gb
* Motorola Xoom (returned)
* HP touchpad (sold after 2 months after alpha3 crap)
and now the transformer.
1st things first, this is the best of the android tablets.
I thought the HP alpha 3 made a good attempt, but it's nowhere in the realm of the xoom/transformer. The transformer seems almost a clone from the xoom, but with the keyboard dock, just is cooler to lug around. Plus the extras asus has done has helped a bit.
Main complaints.
Email, especially handling multiple accounts.
Web, browser is crap, with keyboard, even more.
weight. awkward weight distribution. I can hold the ipad in widescreen format with one hand, but this feels really unnatural with the asus.
Advantages vs Ipad
styling, keyboard dock style, rear camera, flash, widgets.
Minor complaints
Not really great software available for it yet.
Keyboard dock touchpad is too sensitive. I can't ever finish typing a long url without it going bezerk on me. Also, while android is good at freeing up memory, it does not appear as efficient as IOS5. When i run an app on ASUS that is running slowly, i have to go out and run a task manager to clean up the garbage to speed up the app. I never have to do this with IOS even when i have tons of things running.
Ipad advantages:
when i want to surf the web, i prefer the iPad. most sites now have html5 versions and those versions are usually faster loading and smoother than the flash ones for ASUS. For emailing, i prefer it's built in email to android gmail. This is strange considering i only use gmail. But Ipad apps have very intuitive ways for multiple accounts. whether for facebook or email, the multi user integration is just smoother on ipad.
For games like word with friends, it plays it vertically while the tablet one on ASUS is horizontal with smaller letters. There is also the fact that there are many many more apps i still use, like dragon lords, that i had used freely on my old iphone and they still won't make for android.
So for now, I find I prefer the Old ipad for surfing and emailing. And i'm basically using the ASUS for gaming.
ANyone else have an ipad and asus? what are your thoughts?
2 things. third-party browser, thumb keyboards.
as for the weight I hold it in one hand in landscape and portrait with no problem. maybe because I have big hand.
K9 email, free
Kaiten email, nicer multi-pane view, looks good on tablets
Neither do Exchange
Opera mobile or Dolphin HD browsers, much nicer. There's even a Firefox. And quite a few other alternative ones on the market. Opera mini is great for a phone as it saves tons of bandwidth with its pre-rendered approach.
Root your tablet and get the V6 Supercharger script. Here on XDA. Find the thread, go to first post and download the latest beta. Makes a huge difference to the way the memory management behaves.
Now that you're rooted consider a custom ROM.
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I "thanked" you both for your posts.
I want to make this my primary tablet.
I just got the facebook and ebay updates and was dissapointed to see it not be tablet sized like the ipad one.
I will try the other browsers. I've been trying the firefox and firefox beta and really don't like em much.
thanks.
orateam said:
Main complaints.
Email, especially handling multiple accounts.
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orateam said:
For emailing, i prefer it's built in email to android gmail. This is strange considering i only use gmail. But Ipad apps have very intuitive ways for multiple accounts. whether for facebook or email, the multi user integration is just smoother on ipad.
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What in particular? You switch accounts at the top-left part of the screen. I've never used an iPad though, so I don't know how "intuitive" it apparently is.
orateam said:
Web, browser is crap, with keyboard, even more.
weight. awkward weight distribution. I can hold the ipad in widescreen format with one hand, but this feels really unnatural with the asus.
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No such thing as widescreen on an iPad.
orateam said:
Minor complaints
Not really great software available for it yet.
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You're either not looking hard enough, or not in the right place. Check out http://tablified.com for some good applications designed for Android tablets. And any app in the Android Market will work (that's hundreds of thousands of apps) on a tablet, it just might not be optimized for it yet.
orateam said:
Keyboard dock touchpad is too sensitive. I can't ever finish typing a long url without it going bezerk on me.
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It's a common trait with ASUS laptop/netbook keyboards, unfortunately. There's a handy button to disable the trackpad on the keyboard, the fourth key (from the left) on the top row. Use it and love it.
orateam said:
Also, while android is good at freeing up memory, it does not appear as efficient as IOS5. When i run an app on ASUS that is running slowly, i have to go out and run a task manager to clean up the garbage to speed up the app. I never have to do this with IOS even when i have tons of things running.
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That's because iOS doesn't actually manage memory. Your programs aren't running in the background, they just get push services to make them appear like they're running. The apps actually close and restart (think about how a computer hibernates) with your old data still intact.
Android has true multitasking, which means apps are alive and running. It costs a little bit in memory, but modern Android devices have quite a bit of memory to use. If you root your tablet, you'll discover it's much easier to keep things in order, task managers in the Android market can't actually kill apps without root.
orateam said:
Ipad advantages:
when i want to surf the web, i prefer the iPad. most sites now have html5 versions and those versions are usually faster loading and smoother than the flash ones for ASUS.
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You know you can turn flash off, or set it to load on click? Change the Enable Plug-ins setting in the Advanced settings on the browser.
orateam said:
For games like word with friends, it plays it vertically while the tablet one on ASUS is horizontal with smaller letters. There is also the fact that there are many many more apps i still use, like dragon lords, that i had used freely on my old iphone and they still won't make for android.
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You know that you can actually contact developers and ask them to add features (like portrait mode, or auto-rotate, on WWF) or port their app for Android? Some developers will choose to do this if they see users asking for it, otherwise they think people [on Android] are fine without their app.
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What in particular? You switch accounts at the top-left part of the screen. I've never used an iPad though, so I don't know how "intuitive" it apparently is.
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Yes, the gmail app does it nicely. But only for gmail email accounts. If the regular email program, which can handle multiple accounts like yahoo and work would work the same way, would be better. quick question here. In gmail, like ipad mail, there are 2 views: folder view and browse view. In folder view, you see your email folders (most only look at inbox) with only subjects and brief text on the right hand side. In browse mode, you see your email on the left with the full email with images on the right. When i'm in gmail and in browse mode and delete an email, it pops me out to folder mode. do you know any way to stay in browse mode? That's what i'm used to.
No such thing as widescreen on an iPad.
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sure there is. it's just not as wide, but there is a landscape on it. It seems weighted to allow me to hold it in landscape mode with one hand. This is how i hold it.
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
You're either not looking hard enough, or not in the right place. Check out http://tablified.com for some good applications designed for Android tablets. And any app in the Android Market will work (that's hundreds of thousands of apps) on a tablet, it just might not be optimized for it yet.
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Thanks, i'll try this
It's a common trait with ASUS laptop/netbook keyboards, unfortunately. There's a handy button to disable the trackpad on the keyboard, the fourth key (from the left) on the top row. Use it and love it.
That's because iOS doesn't actually manage memory. Your programs aren't running in the background, they just get push services to make them appear like they're running. The apps actually close and restart (think about how a computer hibernates) with your old data still intact.
Android has true multitasking, which means apps are alive and running. It costs a little bit in memory, but modern Android devices have quite a bit of memory to use. If you root your tablet, you'll discover it's much easier to keep things in order, task managers in the Android market can't actually kill apps without root.
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That explains the performance issues a little. But when my now aincient Ipad seems crisper regardless of how many apps are 'running', it does show that android needs a bit better memory management. Perhaps not really mutli tasking like ipad does.
You know you can turn flash off, or set it to load on click? Change the Enable Plug-ins setting in the Advanced settings on the browser.
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Havent' had any luck with this. I turned it off, but it didnt load the html5 version. Perhaps the stock browswer doesn't come with html 5? when i go to some of my fav sites like http://www.theonion.com on my old ipad, it loads up quickly and the page is super smooth. it's completely html5. when i load it on the ASUS, its flash, even when i turn off the plugins, and loads up with tons of ads that slow the page to hell.
You know that you can actually contact developers and ask them to add features (like portrait mode, or auto-rotate, on WWF) or port their app for Android? Some developers will choose to do this if they see users asking for it, otherwise they think people [on Android] are fine without their app.
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thanks again, i will do that more.
orateam said:
Yes, the gmail app does it nicely. But only for gmail email accounts. If the regular email program, which can handle multiple accounts like yahoo and work would work the same way, would be better. quick question here. In gmail, like ipad mail, there are 2 views: folder view and browse view. In folder view, you see your email folders (most only look at inbox) with only subjects and brief text on the right hand side. In browse mode, you see your email on the left with the full email with images on the right. When i'm in gmail and in browse mode and delete an email, it pops me out to folder mode. do you know any way to stay in browse mode? That's what i'm used to.
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Looking in the Gmail settings, go to General preferences and then change the Auto-advance settings. Choose either to go to a Newer or Older conversation to stay in the Browse mode, setting Conversation List kicks you back to folder view.
I'm sorry to say I've never used the built-in email program since Android 2.x, when it got support for multiple Gmail addresses. So I have no idea how it works now, I suspect its drastically different than what I would be used to. Sorry.
orateam said:
That explains the performance issues a little. But when my now aincient Ipad seems crisper regardless of how many apps are 'running', it does show that android needs a bit better memory management. Perhaps not really mutli tasking like ipad does.
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It's possible that ICS will resolve some of this, as it has a built-in task manager. Honeycomb is still a bit buggy, though, so this could be influenced by its bugginess.
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Havent' had any luck with this. I turned it off, but it didnt load the html5 version. Perhaps the stock browswer doesn't come with html 5? when i go to some of my fav sites like http://www.theonion.com on my old ipad, it loads up quickly and the page is super smooth. it's completely html5. when i load it on the ASUS, its flash, even when i turn off the plugins, and loads up with tons of ads that slow the page to hell.
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It's because the sites aren't loading different versions depending on whether or not you have flash. They're loading different versions depending on the user-agent that the browser displays.
I don't know whether anyone has modded the stock browser to do it yet, but I know that Dolphin Browser HD can change its user-agent string to the iPad version. It's possible that the Cyanogenmod team will do this for Cyanogenmod 9, but that would require rooting your tablet to do.
Welcome to android, where you are not forced to use a specific app for a specific function. We have tons of choices for everything you have been talking about. Browsers, task killers, mail programs, roms, kernels, etc....the choices and combinations are vast.
Also, it really bugs me when people say that the ipad multitasks or that apps are "running" in the background... They aren't, the ipad doesn't mt, they just developed yet another clever trick in fooling people, kinda like how they handle force closes... Sneaky sneaky apple. All crap aside, the ipad is a nice piece of equipment, but with android we have options...start using them if you want to unleash the true potential of these devices.
Try k9 mail program, I have several emails accounts I use for my business,i practically run my company from my email. when I first left apple for android,i noticed the stock email was pretty bad compared to the one on iphone 4. so I started looking around and after a day or so I found k9... Best email ever, better than ios and that says alot... Ios did their email good imo. Check it out, its a sweet app.
I like dolphin browser and opera, I use firefox on occasion.
I run revolver rom with clemsyn kernel, if you haven't rootes and flashed a custom rom, then you have not experienced what this tablet can do, it really turns it into another beast all together.
I hope you can make it work for you, it really is a fantastic tablet, and its strengths lay with the fact that you can change everything to how you want it.
Ps. I have owned an ipad1 and ipad2... The ipad 2 I bought for one of my techs...all my technicians use tablets for work... And when I let him go (fired) I kept it for a week or so to play with it, then I gave it to a friend. I prefer the versatility of android over apple. When people ask me about android vs apple,i sum it into one statement. "if you want a device that simply works well without to much fiddling around, grab an apple, but if you want a device that can be great, easily customized with some work then go for android." Everything I could do on an idevice I can do on my android devices... And then some. maybe not right out of the box, but there is a replacement for everything. In my experience, android does most things better and a few things worse than ios.
Sent from my Infuse... Love it!
so for the keyboard dock giving you issues when you are typing, you can turn off the touchpad by pressing the 4th button along the top row that looks like a touchpad with a line going across it. that way when you type, it wont click anywhere.
really great that asus put that button there
and as far as sensitivity, if i go into settings --> language & input, i can scroll down and theres a mouses and trackpad setting where i can change the pointer speed.
hope that helps you out with the dock
im running the latest revolver rom btw.
i havent used any of the other products on your list but i know that when people use my transformer and they come from galaxy tabs, ipads, or any other tablets, they are absolutely in love.
just bought it this black friday on sale and its alot more useful than i thought it was going to be :]
Opera Mobile is a full grown up browser and totally smokes both the built in Android and built in Apple browser.
Try it... It's really 5x quicker at most things, more HTML5 compliant.
It's worth also playing with the desktop/tablet settings in Opera Mobile, see which setting suits the sites you visit.
You might also try Opera Mini, but it's not really the same, it's designed for really bandwidth limited browsing.
I second opera mobile. Ive gone from stock to firefox to dolphin and I find opera to work the best for me
sounds like no votes for Google's browser or emailer program. Don't you think they should put more emphasis on getting those right instead of forcing people to pay for a better browser and emailer?
I've tried some of your suggestions, and will try more, but i'm finding i'm using the Asus less and less now. Still too slow on browser for my liking and that is what most tablets are used for.
I'm hoping that dolphin browser i have yet to use will be the trick pony.
You're screwed, it's going to be the same fundimental engine as the stock.
Oddly, the only time I find my TF (with Opera) too slow is if I don't already have it in hand. At work, it's practically the only way to get a decent browser speed because it's on a different (and much less croweded) network.
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Hey hey. Ever since getting a WiFi-only GT-P3113, I had been wanting to figure out a way to unlock the "phone" functionality in software. First, what do I mean? I know that this device does not physically have a "mobile" radio and so it'll NEVER work like a real cellular device. I know this.
I understand that you can't just magically make a WiFi only device into a 3G / 4G device by flashing it.
What I am after is making the normal Android phone-related stuff work, like making the Phone APK visible, making the normal dialer accessible, and enabling support for the "Headset" BlueTooth profile.
The native Android Phone.apk has support for SIP accounts built right into it, and even when you're using a 3rd party solution, the native dialer functions are just plain nice to have access to. I use GrooveIP myself, and it gets setup as the default dialer app, so basically all you gotta do to make calls is go to People, click on the # you want to call, and it works, just like a standard Android handset. Very nice and easy
The BT headset functionality is useful in apps like Skype.
I kinda inadvertently found out that all of this stuff gets "turned on" if you're using the ROM from a P3100.
I flashed one of those while testing out codeworkx's excellent CM10 ROMs, since the initial release was 3100-only.
You MUST modify the installer script to flash a 3100 ROM onto a 3113.
My purpose in posting is two-fold:
1-I couldn't find any threads really talking about this particular issue.
2-Are there any particular problems that could result in flashing the 3100 ROMs onto a 3113? Everything is working for me so far, and I can't think of any possible problems, but I figured I'd ask.
The only thing that was even remotely an "issue" for me was I had an always-empty "signal" icon on my notification bar. Since I'm running CM10 I just disabled the signal icon. This doesn't disable the WiFi icon, so its all good
Have you tried Tablet Talk?
I use the hell out of it.
Check it out in the Play Store.
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Have you tried Tablet Talk?
I use the hell out of it.
Check it out in the Play Store.
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Ummmmm. A few things. First, that application doesn't appear to be really related to my post at all.
Second, when I compare that app with Google Voice as a texting solution, I kinda feel like Google Voice is a much better way to go. To use Tablet Talk you pay $3 for the app, which you then have to have installed on a smartphone. The smart phone has to be up and running, and has to have SMS service on it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the phone is turned off, runs out of battery, or loses reception, then the whole system stops working.
Google Voice is free, and to use it on any Android device, you install the free Google Voice app and then use it. Since I don't even have a smartphone or any sort of SMS service, I don't appear to be able to use Tablet Talk. Actually at this point I don't even really use the normal GoogleVoice app, since I have GV hooked up to my GoogleTalk account via GV Max. Basically means I just "text" in Trillian, along with IMing. Its just more efficient that way.
How the hell would he know you don't have a smartphone?
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Yeah...
Tablet talk works great, if you have a phone.
Info I could have used.
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He wouldn't, which is why I pointed it out as one of the many reasons I gave for why Tablet Talk is (I feel) an inferior solution when contrasted with Google Voice. At this point I have my SMS, AIM, MSN, and Facebook IM all coming in via GoogleTalk, so now I only have to worry about setting up one chat solution and I'm good. To that end I'm liking LilyPad, and hopefully will jump to that once it gets Group support. Until then, Trillian is my be all, end all comms solution.
I don't really know how that has anything to do with using the P3100 ROMs on the P3113 or phone functionality LOL
I found that there are a lot of different SIP solutions that'll work just fine with the native Android Phone.apk, which has a built in SIP client. I'm presently trying out a combination of sip2sip, IPKall, and GoogleVoice. I have been using GrooveIP but its one more thing to install & configure, so I'll see how this works with just "native" Android apps.
Does anyone know if there are any potential problems that this can cause? So far I haven't encountered any, just didn't wanna make my tablet explode or something
To be honest I think it can be enabled via build prop or something of the like. I found it when looking for mount info. Workin till 9ish ill take a look when I get home.
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That was what I had been thinking earlier but kinda stopped worrying about it so much since I had the sdcard issue to work on
i want to enable 3G USB work with wifi version via samsung USB adapter
OP,
This can be done by decompling the framework-res.apk and modifying /res/values/bools.XML and set "voice capable" from false to true. Then recomplie your modified framework-res file and replace the one on the device.
You will then be able to see the phone app and the sip option.
You must know what you are doing and take a backup before you do this because if you mess up the file your device will not boot.
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Ummmmm. A few things. First, that application doesn't appear to be really related to my post at all.
Second, when I compare that app with Google Voice as a texting solution, I kinda feel like Google Voice is a much better way to go. To use Tablet Talk you pay $3 for the app, which you then have to have installed on a smartphone. The smart phone has to be up and running, and has to have SMS service on it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the phone is turned off, runs out of battery, or loses reception, then the whole system stops working.
Google Voice is free, and to use it on any Android device, you install the free Google Voice app and then use it. Since I don't even have a smartphone or any sort of SMS service, I don't appear to be able to use Tablet Talk. Actually at this point I don't even really use the normal GoogleVoice app, since I have GV hooked up to my GoogleTalk account via GV Max. Basically means I just "text" in Trillian, along with IMing. Its just more efficient that way.
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All of that is true, but by not having the phone screen on, and using tablet talk through bt, battery life is way better on my phone.
I guess it's different, if you are in another country where sms is more (included) in almost every data plan in the US.
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I use Google Voice and Sipdroid on my 3113. Would love to be able to dial from my contacts as well. I'll be keeping an eye on this.
julesism said:
I use Google Voice and Sipdroid on my 3113. Would love to be able to dial from my contacts as well. I'll be keeping an eye on this.
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i use talkatone.
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clubtech said:
OP,
This can be done by decompling the framework-res.apk and modifying /res/values/bools.XML and set "voice capable" from false to true. Then recomplie your modified framework-res file and replace the one on the device.
You will then be able to see the phone app and the sip option.
You must know what you are doing and take a backup before you do this because if you mess up the file your device will not boot.
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I'll be looking into this
My first attempt at making this work is extremely ghetto but also works
The key reasons for doing this are to gain access to the Bluetooth "headset" profile, which I use to make my Motorola headphones also work for audio input (they have a mic on them). GrooveIP supports BlueTooth headsets, but under the standard P3113 stack the input isn't enabled...
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And also to enable the normal Phone.apk, which gives you the native dialer and also makes it so you can "call" people by clicking on their numbers from the People app. If you don't have this you'll have to go to your third party app and then find who you wanna call, which is all around less efficient and integrated.
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This is what I get for posting from work, forgot to say what I actually DID! Thanks go to clubtech, who pointed out that the change is inside of framework-res.apk.
My solution was dirt simple: I found out about the trick in the first place because I flashed a P3100 ROM onto my P3113, cuz at that time there was no P3113 available.
This worked fine EXCEPT that the audio input isn't mapped right so your mic doesn't work.
My new "solution" was to steal the framework-res.apk file out of the latest 3100 CM10 ROM.
You can find the file inside the ROM @ <Root Of Zip>\system\framework
I used 7zip to pull the framework-res.apk from the 3100 7-29 zip, and then opened the 3113 7-29 zip in 7-zip, deleted the original framework-res.apk, and replaced it with the 3100 version.
The devices are close enough that this works.
The phone features are turned on and my mic still works.
There's surely a better way to do this, but it works for me for now
BTW, since the tablet ROMs don't include one, here's the "stock" Jellybean texting app, MMS.apk.
I pulled it from a Jellybean ROM for the Galaxy Nexus compiled 2 days ago.
Confirmed its working on my Tab.
I'm using the app GV Integration to make my GV texts show up like regular texts.
Why do this? Cuz it makes widgets and notifications and stuff that depends on the "native" SMS work as expected.
My main impetus for this was to make the XBMC controller app YATSE properly react to text messages
Just wanted to follow up on this, I found a relatively painless way to accomplish this mod.
Attached to a thread on XDA-Devs (where else!) is a really nice tool to make it very easy to n00bs like me to decompile and mod the framework-res.apk easily. This in turn makes enabling the "phone" stuff super easy
See the thread over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823701
The tool is called Framework Flasher 1.1.4 by Wes Foster (wesf90)
Hey Divinity,
It's great that you have shared what you achieved. I am about to buy this tablet.
Could you please make a step-by-step instruction of how to achieve this on the P3113 Tablet?
That would be greatly appreciated. I am a noob so your instruction will be very helpful for me.
Thanks in advance.
Its hard to know what degree of "noob" you are.
To be messing around with making these sorts of modifications, you'll need to at least have rooted your device.
In lieu of that, be aware that there are lots of solutions that involve simply using apps from the marketplace. I actually don't even use this solution anymore, mostly just Google Voice. The Google Voice integration app I posted about doesn't really work the way I'd like, so instead I've been just piping "everything" through GoogleTalk instead.
There's a free web service called GV Max that lets you connect your Google Voice phone number up to your Google Talk account (among other things), allowing you to send / receive SMS messages within any GoogleTalk client. I frequently use this so I can text people from my computers very easily (since I pretty much always have a chat program running). I've been using GVMax off and on for a couple years now, and its pretty great
Occasionally I use Groove IP if I "have to" receive an incoming call on my tablet. Other than that, the stock Google Voice app allows you to make calls without it being a big deal.
All that said, the process of doing the mod is easy, and the thread I linked to contains a step-by-step guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823701
We wanted a better baseline for web browsing (simple, private, ad free, anonymous), so we built Krypton.
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Additionally Krypton Anonymous has upgrades for ad blocking, full screen browsing, history, auto-login and other "everyday" browsing features.
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Please attach apk to OP.
Not everyone has / has access to play store.
Thank you in advance
Adding Latest version number and changelog also would be great.
I have been using free version for sometime and I find its one of the best tor bundled browser even still it is in beta stage. It is so simple to setup & surf anonymous. Besides it works most of the time and faster than Tor browser for desktop.
It is nice to see developer has started XDA thread, I have couple of questions
what's difference between free and pro version other than being ad-free, are there any extra settings available?
Do I get any alert in case if browser fails to Tor networks?
thanks
Neat little app, it's great to finally see a lovely designed browser that actually works and the tor addition is great and very handy !
Great work! I love when someone take security seriously and goes full transparency.
Quick question, though: I already have Tor installed and are torifying all apps. Would it mess with my installed version of Tor to install Krypton? And would I be able to use the bundled Tor the same way as the full Tor package from Google Play?
Thanks in advance, keep up the good work!
Please Upload apk!
It is requested that u please upload apk,
nagendraps said:
I have been using free version for sometime and I find its one of the best tor bundled browser even still it is in beta stage. It is so simple to setup & surf anonymous. Besides it works most of the time and faster than Tor browser for desktop.
It is nice to see developer has started XDA thread, I have couple of questions
what's difference between free and pro version other than being ad-free, are there any extra settings available?
Do I get any alert in case if browser fails to Tor networks?
thanks
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Glad to hear you like our app! The paid version has history and favorites, and additionally unlocks features in both apps, such as ad block, full screen browsing, and find in page support.
If Tor disconnects you will be notified via a black bar that appears just above the URL (the same one that appears when Tor is connecting). You can also long press the Tor icon to see the Tor log.
Instead of having the apk do u plan to share on F-Droid?
Lambert Verner said:
Great work! I love when someone take security seriously and goes full transparency.
Quick question, though: I already have Tor installed and are torifying all apps. Would it mess with my installed version of Tor to install Krypton? And would I be able to use the bundled Tor the same way as the full Tor package from Google Play?
Thanks in advance, keep up the good work!
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Hey Lambert,
Glad you are enjoying our work! Using Krypton's bundled copy of Tor should not interfere with Orbot. If you want to use other apps with Tor, I suggest keeping Orbot. Soon we will be providing a way to specify a custom proxy, (e.g. Orbot) instead of the bundled Tor. Stay tuned!
m0d said:
Please attach apk to OP.
Not everyone has / has access to play store.
Thank you in advance
Adding Latest version number and changelog also would be great.
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Hey m0d,
The app has a large native component (a shared library that is ~19MB), so the full apk exceeds XDA's limits for upload.
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Hey m0d,
The app has a large native component (a shared library that is ~19MB), so the full apk exceeds XDA's limits for upload.
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FYI: http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/introducing-the-xda-devdb/
The app does not work properly, as in anonymously.
Before tor connects you are able to surf the web with your location known to all.
Also, you can browse without connecting to tor at all, which defeats the purpose mentioned in a the title, "Krypton Anonymous".
I do, however, like having the option to use without tor as it has a nice interface.
But as far as security goes, not secure at all, as the app started to search before connecting to tor (tor was still trying to connect) and location/ip was not hidden
Not sure if you fixed this issue though
Hope to see progress
What is the latest version of the app, by the way?
It would be nice to have it somewhere, website/plus page/play store
m0d said:
The app does not work properly, as in anonymously.
Before tor connects you are able to surf the web with your location known to all.
Also, you can browse without connecting to tor at all, which defeats the purpose mentioned in a the title, "Krypton Anonymous".
I do, however, like having the option to use without tor as it has a nice interface.
But as far as security goes, not secure at all, as the app started to search before connecting to tor (tor was still trying to connect) and location/ip was not hidden
Not sure if you fixed this issue though
Hope to see progress
What is the latest version of the app, by the way?
It would be nice to have it somewhere, website/plus page/play store
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Hey m0d,
If you're demands for anonymity are high, I suggest enabling the "Tor always on" setting, this should hopefully address your concern. I'd like to also note the browser does more than just proxy your connection through Tor. Cookies, cached data, and various other bits of state are never written to disk, and cleared from memory when you close a tab. Additionally we attempt to mitigate fingerprinting by disabling certain browser functionality.
I'll add a version # to the post in a moment.
I would just love the option to import a bookmarks file, rather tedious typing in all my bookmarks again, love the simplicity of the app, many thanks!
Kr36 said:
Hey m0d,
If you're demands for anonymity are high, I suggest enabling the "Tor always on" setting, this should hopefully address your concern. I'd like to also note the browser does more than just proxy your connection through Tor. .
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I am just pointing out what seemed like a bug, as you are advertising your app as Krypton Anonymous. I did mention that I liked the ability too disable tor and browse normally, too.
However, there needs to be a way to make sure which option the app is using. I did try setting "Tor always on", do not remember if it solved the issue, will try again.
But that means, to me, that you do not close tor, it does not sound like it has anything to do with being able to browse before connecting to tor. Users reading the article on your app - http://www.xda-developers.com/android/krypton-web-browser-privacy/, will be under the impression that your browser is an anonymous browser. But they need to be aware that in some cases that is not the case, as your browser allows you to browse before connecting to tor
There should be at least a pop-up warning that your are not yet connecting to tor before it browses.
I suggest an Anonymous mode switch in settings or in the menu (something like desktop mode in many other browsers) which forces you to wait until tor connects before browsing, which you can always switch off if you do not need it
I.E. The checkbox in the image: http://b2b.cbsimg.net/blogs/nexus-browser.png
But instead of "Request Desktop Site" an "Force Anonymous Mode".
Kr36 said:
I'll add a version # to the post in a moment.
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Thank you and for your time
Will my internet providor know what pages I'm opening ?
Finaly! A perffect browser for me
pretty nice app ..... lighter will be better
Seems like a nice browser. I really like the interface and the Tor button! But are you planning to use the new Android 5.0 API to integrate tabs in recents menu like chrome?
what is this TOR button? is it in the paid or free version?
Hi all,
Kore is a new Kodi/XBMC remote for Android, which aims to be simple, easy to use and beautiful.
Kore allows you to control your Kodi/XBMC, see what's currently playing and the current playlist, change subtitles and audiostreams, download your media locally, access your media library, check info about each item (supports movies, TV shows, music and addons), and more.
Kore is free and open source. The in-app purchase lets you buy me a coffee, so i can continue to improve Kore.
Some links:
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Kore is new, and though I've tried my best to make sure it works, surely there are bugs lurking somewhere. Help me test it and report your experiences here or contact me.
Thanks
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looks nice, gj op.
BakaB said:
looks nice, gj op.
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Thanks. Tried to follow Material design guidelines, though i took some liberties at some points. It also looks better on lollipop as there are some extra animations.
Looks promising. Long time a yatse user, but I'm giving this app a try. Beautiful and with all the features I normally use. Just a suggestion to make the send text option visible in the top bar with an icon, instead of hidden in the menu. Thanks
looks promising. Also a long time Yatse User, but will give this certainly a try!
Thanks for trying it. If you find any bugs, please report them.
Penacal said:
Looks promising. Long time a yatse user, but I'm giving this app a try. Beautiful and with all the features I normally use. Just a suggestion to make the send text option visible in the top bar with an icon, instead of hidden in the menu. Thanks
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Will consider it. I know that having only one command under the menu doesn't make much sense, and that it should be a separate icon, but in the future i suspect that there will be more commands under the menu, so that's why i chose to include it right from the start.
will give it a try:good:
Android Wear
I recommend adding Android Wear support, after realizing Yatse does, I bought it immediately! Good Luck!
Looking promising but still lots of bugs. For example the obvious bug is when you click on the remote button (which is on the upper screen) doesn't do anything except "connecting" and may crush after a while.
when the app search for my kodi it doesn't find it although with yatse it does.
Hope to see bug fixes and many more features in the future.
Sweet!
Much improved from the old Official XBMC Remote app.
Thanks!
I can see this giving Yatse a run if we could get streaming integrated. Very cool that you made it open source.
It is just the start in terms of functions and bugs, but it is beautiful! Long time paid Yatse user and if you continue this way I will have to re-think which app I am going to use.
It works great, good job Also much better looking than the old official XBMC one.
I've tried Yatse also, but I just needed an app which had remote control and not all the other stuff, like libraries and streaming etc. And this seems to fit quite well
Hopefully you keep it light-weight and simple.
KillerApp
Woah, dude, this is awesome. Very nice piece of software.
Finally my xmbc device is useful again
Just wondering would it be possible to bring Phone notifications with this remote? I use Kodi on Fire TV one thing I would love to see if notifications from my phone like texts etc.. would be awesome!
VERY NICE!! :good::good:
Suggestion :
Is it possible to add a "volume slider" just above, below or to the side of the remote buttons for a smoother and faster volume adjustment?
Great job!!
Subscribed to this thread.
Looking good. Library loads quickly and scrolls smoothly.
The only bug I see is that some TV series do not show episodes under the season. Going to the episodes tab shows the seasons but clicking the season does nothing but toggle the little arrow. Forcing a refresh seems to allow you to see the episodes. Other series do not have this issue.
I am a long time Yatse user here and its nice to see another nicely designed XBMC/Kodi remote app.
RMD said:
I recommend adding Android Wear support, after realizing Yatse does, I bought it immediately! Good Luck!
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Agree, though i need to get a moto 360 first, and i still haven't been able to justify that buy to myself.
nirmitlamed said:
Looking promising but still lots of bugs. For example the obvious bug is when you click on the remote button (which is on the upper screen) doesn't do anything except "connecting" and may crush after a while.
when the app search for my kodi it doesn't find it although with yatse it does.
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Does it crash? Can you send the report to Google so that i can access the stack trace and check it.
Seems like it didn't connect to your kodi. Do you have a firewall and might it be preventing it from connecting. BTW, automatically finding kodi/xbmc is done through zeroconf, which can be tricky. Try hitting the "search again" button several times.
fivefour said:
I can see this giving Yatse a run if we could get streaming integrated. Very cool that you made it open source.
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KreAch3R said:
It is just the start in terms of functions and bugs, but it is beautiful! Long time paid Yatse user and if you continue this way I will have to re-think which app I am going to use.
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Thanks.
WarCow said:
It works great, good job Also much better looking than the old official XBMC one.
I've tried Yatse also, but I just needed an app which had remote control and not all the other stuff, like libraries and streaming etc. And this seems to fit quite well
Hopefully you keep it light-weight and simple.
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Yeah, i want to keep it simple and easy to use.
patt2k said:
Just wondering would it be possible to bring Phone notifications with this remote? I use Kodi on Fire TV one thing I would love to see if notifications from my phone like texts etc.. would be awesome!
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I'm not very keen on messing with notifications or, for instance, pausing videos when a call comes, because that requires some permissions which can be hard to justify (access notifications, access phone calls. On a remote app? why?). Yeah, i know, there are justifications and this is open-source and all, but i'm still not convinced (for now, i may change my mind).
HueMann said:
VERY NICE!! :good::good:
Suggestion :
Is it possible to add a "volume slider" just above, below or to the side of the remote buttons for a smoother and faster volume adjustment?
Great job!!
Subscribed to this thread.
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Will consider it, though i'm not sure how to make it look good. I really need help from a designer...
zanix said:
Looking good. Library loads quickly and scrolls smoothly.
The only bug I see is that some TV series do not show episodes under the season. Going to the episodes tab shows the seasons but clicking the season does nothing but toggle the little arrow. Forcing a refresh seems to allow you to see the episodes. Other series do not have this issue.
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Possibly the library syncing hadn't finished yet. After you add a media center, the syncing starts, and it can take a while. If you go to Movies/TV Shows/Music while it is syncing you'll get partial results, and seeing all the TV Shows, but not the episodes is a symptom of that. By the way, if you did a refresh while the other sync was running, you might get duplicate episodes... If thats the case just do another refresh.
Does it crash? Can you send the report to Google so that i can access the stack trace and check it.
Seems like it didn't connect to your kodi. Do you have a firewall and might it be preventing it from connecting. BTW, automatically finding kodi/xbmc is done through zeroconf, which can be tricky. Try hitting the "search again" button several times.
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now it didn't crush but still the connecting text. it only happens when genesis let me choose from a list, otherwise it works. How can i send you the report and get the report file?
about the automatic finding, i don't know what to tell you, everything in kodi settings is ok, i don't have firewall, yatse find my ip, but in kore i need to enter it manually.
really great on the nexus 6. i love the app, just a lot better than the official xbmc remote - maybe you should if kodi wants your app as official one
one little thing: there should be a possibility to abort the download of a movie to the smartphone, this will take a long time now
coffee: bought