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The announcement of the O2x receiving an ISC OTA in the 2nd quarter ( anyone really believe that ) will probably be the end of support for our phones . Well this is my last stand to get the source to our devs please join her just copy #Releasethesource and paste here
https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=334420639902596
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Thanks guys
Release source from nvidia? Sorry, but won't happen. They already said they wouldn't be part of open source, but if the O2X gets ICS, we get it too (by porting and whatnot).
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It hurts to try I guess...
newnoobkid said:
The announcement of the O2x receiving an ISC OTA in the 2nd quarter ( anyone really believe that ) will probably be the end of support for our phones . Well this is my last stand to get the source to our devs please join her just copy #Releasethesource and paste here
https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=334420639902596
Update I've been blocked from leaving comments
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that's because you spammed them with too many comments
newnoobkid said:
It hurts to try I guess...
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don't you mean it doesn't hurt to try?
and no it doesn't, but like stated above, nvidia won't release their source code, no matter how much we ask
The only method that may work is for a company which litigates against NVIDIA for patent or intellectual property infringement. The litigation may force disclosure of source code but, if it does, the documents will probably be sealed by the court so that only the litigant(s) will have access.
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The only method that may work is for a company which litigates against NVIDIA for patent or intellectual property infringement. The litigation may force disclosure of source code but, if it does, the documents will probably be sealed by the court so that only the litigant(s) will have access.
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What you talking bout Willis?
newnoobkid said:
What you talking bout Willis?
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Reread it, makes perfect sense.
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newnoobkid said:
What you talking bout Willis?
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Basically, say a partner of LG can't get a part to work with the G3x, and its because they dont have access to drivers. They go to court with nvidia, nvidia shares source code with said company, and that's where it ends. Said company wouldn't be allowed to share with the public, unless granted permission by nvidia, which WON'T happen.
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Or Google could bring litigation against nvidia or better yet LG. Since nvidia said it would be LG that would release the HAL and that they shouldn't. For violating open source.
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Or Google could bring litigation against nvidia or better yet LG. Since nvidia said it would be LG that would release the HAL and that they shouldn't. For violating open source.
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So who should I beg?
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So who should I beg?
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Apparently no one. Nvidia/LG want the benefits of open source but want to keep anything nvidia makes proprietary.
Anyone feel like explaining how the whole binary blob thing bypasses open source rules?
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So who should I beg?
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Just stop trying, its not gonna work. Understand that.
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Ok so we all know LG and Nvidia is not providing drivers for our phone...
Hence partially complete ICS roms with no camera or video....
Why dont we petition LG and Nvidia to release these drivers or release ICS for the G2x... If enough of us come together we might be able to get this done???
Ive seen some posts about a 2nd quarter release for ICS for the p990 and then waiting for a port of that for the p999 but it sounds like speculation...
lets see what the collective minds of XDA have to say about this....
MODERATOR PLEASE STEP IN FOR ONCE combine this thread with the two others that we already have, pertaining to the "petition" matter...
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mt3g said:
MODERATOR PLEASE STEP IN FOR ONCE combine this thread with the two others that we already have, pertaining to the "petition" matter...
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+1 also the search button works awesome, should try it sometime..
kcxda78 said:
Ok so we all know LG and Nvidia is not providing drivers for our phone...
Hence partially complete ICS roms with no camera or video....
Why dont we petition LG and Nvidia to release these drivers or release ICS for the G2x... If enough of us come together we might be able to get this done???
Ive seen some posts about a 2nd quarter release for ICS for the p990 and then waiting for a port of that for the p999 but it sounds like speculation...
lets see what the collective minds of XDA have to say about this....
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Been done many times.
These threads are getting annoying. Go complain on Facebook or something similar.
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theking_13 said:
These threads are getting annoying. Go complain on Facebook or something similar.
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I've been emailing LG customer service every day since I started my thread.
Personally I think you guys drastically overrate how much they care what you post on their Facebook and twitter
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I've been emailing LG customer service every day since I started my thread.
Personally I think you guys drastically overrate how much they care what you post on their Facebook and twitter
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LG has NO CONTROL whatsoever of what Nvidia does or doesn't do.
If you're going to bother anyone, bother Nvidia. Be smart, do some research, and stop wasting LG's time with what they can't do.
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LG has NO CONTROL whatsoever of what Nvidia does or doesn't do.
If you're going to bother anyone, bother Nvidia. Be smart, do some research, and stop wasting LG's time with what they can't do.
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Nvidia says it would be LG who would release HAL and told LG that they shouldn't. Nvidia will provide HAL to LG.
Its a hard no from nvidia. LG has the HAL and the right to release it.
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Nvidia says it would be LG who would release HAL and told LG that they shouldn't. Nvidia will provide HAL to LG.
Its a hard no from nvidia. LG has the HAL and the right to release it.
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Either way, we're not getting the drivers. Haha
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Nvidia says it would be LG who would release HAL and told LG that they shouldn't. Nvidia will provide HAL to LG.
Its a hard no from nvidia. LG has the HAL and the right to release it.
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This may be True, but Nvidia has to get the drivers to LG before they can get them to us.
WE WONT GET THEM STFU ALREADY.
If you want full ICS, buy a phone running it. If you can't afford it/dont want it, beggars can't be choosers. Srs.
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This is the problem with people now these days. You people just allow THE MAN to f*ck and you guys just bend down and take it. Fight for your rights and as a consumer you deserve to have support of a product at least for a miserable year. The people just accepting the fact that we won't get ics are the same ones that will allow banks and government to manipulate and decide what's going to happen to them. This is a great example of what's wrong with this world now these days. You guys get ****ted on by people with power and you guys gladly bathe in it. Its amazing. I support what this guy is doing but nothing will change until all you conformist decide to join in numbers and take actions. You people are sickening.
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That may very well be the case, but we can't do anything until LG doesn't make on theie word! They have publicly come out and said they plan on proving the update to these phones and I quote: "Optimus 2X, the Optimus Black, the Optimus 3D and the Optimus LTE." They have mentioned the Optimus 2X series in a post before, but I cannot find nor do I choose to do the searching for all of you. I did find this before and it has been posted before.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/lg-m...40-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrade/316431148368212
I have also commented on one their post on Facebook and they relied to me saying they "plan on releasing an ICS update to the G2X sometime in the 2nd quarter" I have posted the screenshot somewhere on these forums of the statement they said to me.
Basically take a chill pill and try to not let the phone community make you sick to your stomach, and if you want, keep posting things on here that make me laugh.
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This is the problem with people now these days. You people just allow THE MAN to f*ck and you guys just bend down and take it. Fight for your rights and as a consumer you deserve to have support of a product at least for a miserable year. The people just accepting the fact that we won't get ics are the same ones that will allow banks and government to manipulate and decide what's going to happen to them. This is a great example of what's wrong with this world now these days. You guys get ****ted on by people with power and you guys gladly bathe in it. Its amazing. I support what this guy is doing but nothing will change until all you conformist decide to join in numbers and take actions. You people are sickening.
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You bought a phone, by buying that phone lg and nvidia promises to update it and keep it functional. Last i checked they did this. It was updated from Froyo to gb and using a stock gb ROM everything works. Stop demanding **** from these companies.
If you buy a cake and you like it, do you demand that the chef give you his recipe!?
If you buy a car do you demand that they give you a new engine every 6 months so that your car is as good as the new ones???
The phone works fine on gb, and aside from looks, ics adds very little at this point. Stop *****ing, they don't owe you anything!
if you ask me, they don't need to update any further, but it looks like they will. Yes, for NO EXTRA MONETARY GAIN a company will put time and effort into making a product (which is now past its scheduled EOL) better than it was ever meant to be.
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jghidalgo307 said:
This is the problem with people now these days. You people just allow THE MAN to f*ck and you guys just bend down and take it. Fight for your rights and as a consumer you deserve to have support of a product at least for a miserable year. The people just accepting the fact that we won't get ics are the same ones that will allow banks and government to manipulate and decide what's going to happen to them. This is a great example of what's wrong with this world now these days. You guys get ****ted on by people with power and you guys gladly bathe in it. Its amazing. I support what this guy is doing but nothing will change until all you conformist decide to join in numbers and take actions. You people are sickening.
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On the contrary, it's people like you that think everything is worth blowing up over that's sickening.
I hardly doubt that not caring about some f'in phone software, that the company has every right not to release, has anything to do with people letting the government do anything.
It's an issue that probably less than 1% of the phones owners care about. If it bothered you so much you should have exercised your consumer rights and returned the phone immediately and got something else. That would have shown LG/NVIDIA you mean business.
Stop the hyperbole please.
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Klathmon said:
You bought a phone, by buying that phone lg and nvidia promises to update it and keep it functional. Last i checked they did this. It was updated from Froyo to gb and using a stock gb ROM everything works. Stop demanding **** from these companies.
If you buy a cake and you like it, do you demand that the chef give you his recipe!?
If you buy a car do you demand that they give you a new engine every 6 months so that your car is as good as the new ones???
The phone works fine on gb, and aside from looks, ics adds very little at this point. Stop *****ing, they don't owe you anything!
if you ask me, they don't need to update any further, but it looks like they will. Yes, for NO EXTRA MONETARY GAIN a company will put time and effort into making a product (which is now past its scheduled EOL) better than it was ever meant to be.
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From the G2x User Manual under Phone Software Update.
NOTE: LG reserves the right to make firmware
updates available only for selective models at its own
discretion and does not guarantee the availability
of the newer version of the firmware for all handset
models.
Klathmon said:
You bought a phone, by buying that phone lg and nvidia promises to update it and keep it functional. Last i checked they did this. It was updated from Froyo to gb and using a stock gb ROM everything works. Stop demanding **** from these companies.
If you buy a cake and you like it, do you demand that the chef give you his recipe!?
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Did you miss this being open source? Or what open source is about?
In your analogy it would be a community recipe. And it would be like a chef not letting people in on his input.
The whole point is growth through the community. LG views the open source community as a burden instead of utilizing us as an asset.
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Did you miss this being open source? Or what open source is about?
In your analogy it would be a community recipe. And it would be like a chef not letting people in on his input.
The whole point is growth through the community. LG views the open source community as a burden instead of utilizing us as an asset.
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Android is open source, not the drivers for tegra 2, nor any modifications that nvidia or lg made to it.
Nvidia has released everything they were required to, as did lg.
As for everything else, they have every right to keep those to themselves.
It's not just my opinion, it's googles.
And to your last part, yes they do see open source as bad for them, (and partly they should). They spent lots of time and money developing this phone, and it's bad for business if someone can just take it all and give it away for free.
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Android is open source, not the drivers for tegra 2, nor any modifications that nvidia or lg made to it.
Nvidia has released everything they were required to, as did lg.
As for everything else, they have every right to keep those to themselves.
It's not just my opinion, it's googles.
And to your last part, yes they do see open source as bad for them, (and partly they should). They spent lots of time and money developing this phone, and it's bad for business if someone can just take it all and give it away for free.
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If the HAL took a single line from aosp to make they are violating open source agreements by not releasing it.
Beyond that if it shares no code they are still violating the spirit of open source by not sharing. They recieve the benifit of open source with every device they sell. They are supposed to contribute back. At least provide what's needed to make your hardware work.
They found a loophole to be able to keep benifiting from others code but keep what they make proprietary. Way back when these leechers would be blackballed.
I went to the microsoft store and traded in my mytouch 3G for a new samsung focus s, screw LG.
Using gingerbread is like going back to old windows. Using ICS on G2X is like using windows 7 without graphics driver. Time for a proper ICS device.
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x_ics_update_gets_pushed_back_to_q3-news-4233.php
looks like we have to wait even longer
Fuuuuuuuuuuu-
Considering how much trouble they're having with Gingerbread a year in, this is probably a good thing.
Chinese281 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x_ics_update_gets_pushed_back_to_q3-news-4233.php
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:-(
Those earlier posts with LG reps,etc was indicating this.
Thanks for sharing, though.
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Late is better than never I suppose.
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LG should commit Seppuku
LG's executives should commit Seppuku by jūmonji giri ( 十文字切り ) because of their (LG's) dishonourable conduct. It's the honourable thing for them to do.
Core Memory said:
LG's executives should commit Seppuku by jūmonji giri ( 十文字切り ) because of their (LG's) dishonourable conduct. It's the honourable thing for them to do.
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LG is Korean, not Japanese.
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I would rather the delay than a half ass working version. I will gladly wait a little longer for something that actually works
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I would rather the delay than a half ass working version. I will gladly wait a little longer for something that actually works
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Well if it was half-ass in some respects... we could still just vulture the pieces WE need out...
Right?
Who cares about our O2x brethren!...
Core Memory said:
LG's executives should commit Seppuku by jūmonji giri ( 十文字切り ) because of their (LG's) dishonourable conduct. It's the honourable thing for them to do.
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That's a tad dramatic. I would hate to see what you do if someone cut you off in traffic. Off with their heads?
Most folks have moved on through the grief cycle by now. An official release of ICS will probably not happen. I am not sure why everyone keeps freaking out over it.
No offense Core, but that can not be good for your blood pressure.
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That's a tad dramatic. I would hate to see what you do if someone cut you off in traffic. Off with their heads?
Most folks have moved on through the grief cycle by now. An official release of ICS will probably not happen. I am not sure why everyone keeps freaking out over it.
No offense Core, but that can not be good for your blood pressure.
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oooorrrr its a joke and a pretty good one.
ICS: Q3 2185
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LG has our money already, why the f*$k would they care for us?
They have a massive amount of blind followers who don't mind the wait or don't know what's better for them. You think the small # of people who are angered out-weigh the blind? I think not.
True but if they saw any of the threads or the Facebook posts that are made they would smarten up, their Facebook page has a mass amount of people saying they will never buy an LG product as in no appliances either. I know a whole mess of xda users that aren't even just the g2x or its variants wont purchase again. I've stopped a few people from getting a g2x and other LG androids, cause they had no interest in rooting or modifying the phone. This phone stock, is not at all good enough for any one who depends on their phone. I'm sure the numbers from 2010 -2012 will show some decline.
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New2my8125 said:
LG has our money already, why the f*$k would they care for us?
They have a massive amount of blind followers who don't mind the wait or don't know what's better for them. You think the small # of people who are angered out-weigh the blind? I think not.
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Do they? I mean Apple yea sure, but when's the last time someone has been head over heals for an LG phone? Let alone two people.
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True but if they saw any of the threads or the Facebook posts that are made they would smarten up, their Facebook page has a mass amount of people saying they will never buy an LG product as in no appliances either. I know a whole mess of xda users that aren't even just the g2x or its variants wont purchase again. I've stopped a few people from getting a g2x and other LG androids, cause they had no interest in rooting or modifying the phone. This phone stock, is not at all good enough for any one who depends on their phone. I'm sure the numbers from 2010 -2012 will show some decline.
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Do they? I mean Apple yea sure, but when's the last time someone has been head over heals for an LG phone? Let alone two people.
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From just looking at #'s from IDC, Samsung has dropped in popularity with respects to their sales figures:
Apple Passes LG for 3rd. The fact that LG still beats out HTC. 88.1 Million overall units sold (across their whole product line) is still a LOT.
Last LG phone I ever buy. Hello, Galaxy SIII...
me too even if i love my rooted phone with the genesis rom, the services is slow as snail for upgrading and i'm not surprised that when it comes out in Q3, my rom gonna kick the ass of the ICS update for sure...
Chinese281 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x_ics_update_gets_pushed_back_to_q3-news-4233.php
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They (LG) doesn't think enough of us to hate us...
http://www.gsmarena.com/2011_xperia...no_ics_for_optimus_2x_and_black-news-4570.php
Saw the news and just bought a GNex. NEVER AGAIN, LG/Nvidia.
I want to be optimistic....
This is just LG Canada, I hope that doesn't mean the rest of the world.
Makes me sad, nonetheless.
I was worried too, but hey, in Canada we didn't even get Gingerbread (on our G2x atleast) so there's hope for it to come put for another country
I'm not holding my breath. LG/nVidia has given us NO inclination they care about their customers. Never again will I buy LG or any nVidia product (I've got 5 PC's, all of which will never see a nVidia card in them again).
I've already had enuff drama concerning this device and LG support, I mean I get the big gist of it and don't think I'm entitled to updated software. My beef is that GooG made it available, the carriers can only be blamed for so much, and Nvidia and LG have gotten sticks up there asses cause of the junk builds of the phone that were initially pushed out. They got shell shocked and buttoned up the house on support and dissed TMO in the process.
I'm done with half asses Pre-ICS devices and minor players trying to be large. Go big or go home LG, Think you can fool me twice Nvidia? No....
On the road to get my Galaxy SIII or my HTC One-X.....I'm sticking with players that got legs enuff to stand and balls enough to do what they want.
Holla'
LG is so confusing, they posted a couple days ago (LG Canada) that the G2X will be getting ICS, now they say the Optimus 2X wont? They need to get their story straight lol
LG support forums said the G2x will not be getting ICS...period. At this point I have to suspect that there is a whole lot of crack smoking going on in the LG Canada offices.
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LG support forums said the G2x will not be getting ICS...period. At this point I have to suspect that there is a whole lot of crack smoking going on in the LG Canada offices.
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Seriously, because in this post:
https://twitter.com/LGCanada/status/212236732500934656
From June 11th, LG Canada states that the G2X (P999 they said) will get ICS in Q3 of this year. But the only carrier in Canada who carries the P999 (Wind) has stated that they won't release any more updates for the P999, it's so confusing haha
LG Can go to hell!!!!
Honestly lg makes a pretty good phone. Its really not lg's fault, its nvidia's because they're so closed source on their drivers. Yes, lg can get the drivers from nvidia because well, they're lg, but it has been stated that internationally they're working on ics for the O2x. Just have to wait and see.
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New2my8125 said:
I'm not holding my breath. LG/nVidia has given us NO inclination they care about their customers. Never again will I buy LG or any nVidia product (I've got 5 PC's, all of which will never see a nVidia card in them again).
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I agree that the lifespan of this phone IMO was too short. But the reality is, is it that it takes money and resources to develop updates for any phone. If you already have new products you are trying to sell, there is no incentive for LG (or any other manufacturer) to continue support for an older product that will NOT generate revenue.
I hate this as much as you guys do, trust me, but it comes down to keeping the business running and generating income to stay in the game. All phones fall out of support eventually, and with new phones coming out every 6 months, those lifespans just keep getting shorter.
Here is hoping some other device with a Tegra 2 chipset gets ICS. We only need one to hopefully reverse engineer those drivers. :good:
It may be money but
LG and Nvidia's both need o know that virtually every member of our community will not by their phone products again. If its so damn expensive, release the source and let people develop for it. If that's too scary than just accept that we have learned never to trust you. The only way I buy Nvidia's again is if I get a nexus 7?..the only way I would buy an lg phone again is if someone paid me to take it. You failed--both LG and Nvidia's. I think it's time we advertise our unhappiness...petitions do nothing but bad press and bad reviews might be effective.
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I agree that the lifespan of this phone IMO was too short. But the reality is, is it that it takes money and resources to develop updates for any phone. If you already have new products you are trying to sell, there is no incentive for LG (or any other manufacturer) to continue support for an older product that will NOT generate revenue.
I hate this as much as you guys do, trust me, but it comes down to keeping the business running and generating income to stay in the game. All phones fall out of support eventually, and with new phones coming out every 6 months, those lifespans just keep getting shorter.
Here is hoping some other device with a Tegra 2 chipset gets ICS. We only need one to hopefully reverse engineer those drivers. :good:
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We're not asking for them to release a working ROM. Release the damn drivers to Ricardo and I'm sure we'd be hooked up in a couple of weeks with one HELL of an ICS ROM, and JB to boot...
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...the reality is, is it that it takes money and resources to develop updates for any phone. If you already have new products you are trying to sell, there is no incentive for LG (or any other manufacturer) to continue support for an older product that will NOT generate revenue.
I hate this as much as you guys do, trust me, but it comes down to keeping the business running and generating income to stay in the game...
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Although I see your point, I completely disagree. Customers bring revenue and customers need a reason to buy a product, so this is where reliability and credibility come in. By abandoning the older customers, they're putting a huge dent in their reliability; after all, how reliable is a phone that becomes obsolete in less than half a year due to poor customer support? Now add the fact that they've promised ICS in some cases and refuted that all together in other cases, and you can also throw credibility out of the window.
People who hear reviews from unhappy, abandoned customers will not want to buy an LG product and those customers will probably completely discredit LG in any way they can from that point on. When you look at it that way, the way that it actually is, you can see a terrible business model.
Well.. looks like my phone's heading to kijiji.
I know I'll never buy another LG phone. See LG, that's what happens when you don't support your products. Considering Gingerbread was out when this phone was released, there's no reason why it didn't come with it in the first place. At least I can get $85 trade-in for this one to put towards my Galaxy S3...
noahk423 said:
Honestly lg makes a pretty good phone. Its really not lg's fault, its nvidia's because they're so closed source on their drivers. Yes, lg can get the drivers from nvidia because well, they're lg, but it has been stated that internationally they're working on ics for the O2x. Just have to wait and see.
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According to this site, LG confirmed no ICS for the O2x. http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/1511525/no_android_ice_cream_sandwich_for_lg_optimus_2x.html
Hope whoever made that decision dies in a fire. I'm glad I got the GNex.
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According to this site, LG confirmed no ICS for the O2x. http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/1511525/no_android_ice_cream_sandwich_for_lg_optimus_2x.html
Hope whoever made that decision dies in a fire. I'm glad I got the GNex.
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Sounds a little extreme of a reaction over a dumb phone.
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Sounds a little extreme of a reaction over a dumb phone.
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Just a little hyperbole
I am willing to give a reward of a bonafide Windows 8 Pro x86/x64 retail license to the person who successfully solves the problem of getting the G2X Qualcomm mdm6600 radio/modem fully working with the CM10.1 or stock LG ICS kernel or the kernel that is being worked on by AdamPK, Mazout360, etc. If I determine that more than one person has made a significant contribution to achieving that, I will give the same reward to them too. But, before I make that official, I want opinions about doing that.
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The code required to achieve success must be fully documented and publicly available to enable others to use it successfully too.
UPDATE
The poll ended overwhelmingly in favour of me rewarding development which gets the Qualcomm mdm6600 modem/radio working fully with an ICS/CM9/JB/CM10.1 ROM and Kernel.
There's no expectation or obligation of anyone to accept the reward of a bonafide Windows 8 Pro x86/x64 license for accomplishing the development goal.
The reward will be awarded after the goal is accomplished which is proven by the full/complete operation of the G2X and its Qualcomm mdm6600 radio/modem with an ICS/CM9/JB/CM10.1 ROM and Kernel and the submission, to me, of documentation of the method used, in the form of fully commented source code which can be understood by a person competent in the programming language used so that it can be used for verification and for further development.
If there is a dispute as to who ultimately accomplished the goal of getting the Qualcomm mdm6600 modem/radio working fully with an ICS/CM9/JB/CM10.1 ROM and Kernel, it will be resolved by examination of relevant documentation which I will use to determine the reward recipient(s). If more than one person, determined by me exclusively, contributed substantially to achieving the goal, each of those persons will be eligible to receive the same reward. If anyone who is eligible to receive the reward doesn't want it they may forego receiving it.
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37 views so far and only 2 votes? WTH! Apathy?
Core Memory said:
37 views so far and only 2 votes? WTH! Apathy?
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Well, you're essentially spamming people. What did you expect?
This won't incentivize cooperation which looks necessary to me.
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im about ready to just buy another g2x and send tonyp my old one lol
In another phone section [Galaxy S Blaze] everyone chipped in to buy a developer a phone. I would totally do it for a seasoned developer who can likely fix the radio issue. A G2x isn't really that expensive.
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I voted no just because i think it will take more than one person on the other hand if a random badass dev wants to just make it happen really quick then ill change my vote. P. S Ali ba your signature is pretty freaking funny
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Bulletblitz27 said:
In another phone section [Galaxy S Blaze] everyone chipped in to buy a developer a phone. I would totally do it for a seasoned developer who can likely fix the radio issue. A G2x isn't really that expensive.
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i agree. they go for around 150 on craigslist, so if we had 6 people donate $25 just one time out of their friday paycheck, we might be able to really get somewhere with our phone developmentally, AND we could say we did it as a community which i think would be pretty freakin cool.:good:
monte666 said:
I voted no just because i think it will take more than one person on the other hand if a random badass dev wants to just make it happen really quick then ill change my vote. P. S Ali ba your signature is pretty freaking funny
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No changing votes.
BuddhaTeh1337 said:
i agree. they go for around 150 on craigslist, so if we had 6 people donate $25 just one time out of their friday paycheck, we might be able to really get somewhere with our phone developmentally, AND we could say we did it as a community which i think would be pretty freakin cool.:good:
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That would be helpful but how would that be accomplished? Regardless, I have decided what my contribution will be and how it will be awarded.
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Well, you're essentially spamming people. What did you expect?
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A thread that people can post to is not spam but off-topic posts to a thread are.
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if buying a dev a phone would even work? Are there devs willing to work for phones like that?
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if buying a dev a phone would even work? Are there devs willing to work for phones like that?
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I suppose that, if the developer is already doing it, but they don't have a G2X such as tonyp, they would welcome getting one to enable them to do their development much more easily. I think tonyp well deserves getting a G2X for his effort. I don't know about anyone else who doesn't have a G2X who is contributing as much as he has and still is. Wouldn't it be helpful to ask him and, if he wants one, easiest to donate to him directly so that he can buy the phone? I am certain that, if that happened, he would be very pleased.
Unfortunately you can't count me in. I'm lacking the time and probably kernel knowledge to do that.
You need someone who got deep Linux kernel experience and skills.
Btw, offering someone like that a windows license is a little strange
(and just to brag about it: I got plenty of free win 8 licenses thanks to Microsoft MSDN aa ).
A potential dev has to have the phone. It won't work without one, that would take way more time.
The problem with donating a phone upfront is that it introduces expectations. If the dev fails it's always a bad feeling for both sides, that's why there are many devs who don't really like receiving phones.
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I'll throw in the $5 that was donated to me lately.
tonyp said:
Unfortunately you can't count me in. I'm lacking the time and probably kernel knowledge to do that.
You need someone who got deep Linux kernel experience and skills.
Btw, offering someone like that a windows license is a little strange
(and just to brag about it: I got plenty of free win 8 licenses thanks to Microsoft MSDN aa ).
A potential dev has to have the phone. It won't work without one, that would take way more time.
The problem with donating a phone upfront is that it introduces expectations. If the dev fails it's always a bad feeling for both sides, that's why there are many devs who don't really like receiving phones.
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Offering a Windows 8 license isn't that strange even in the Android/Linux community as many use Windows for some purposes that Android/Linux don't fulfil. The reward wouldn't be given until it was "earned". (And, also, but not to brag about it, I was also a member of MSDNAA but I've retired from that now.)
Kernel development/hacking is very difficult so anyone who would do it would have to have the phone anyway so getting the phone one already owns isn't an incentive. You're correct about giving a phone upfront implies that there is the expectation of a beneficial payback to whomever donates the phone which is a good reason not to give one and not to want one.
I am still committed to the reward I am considering offering. So far, the majority are in favour of it. When the poll is over, I will do what the majority wants.
We'd probably need some dev who already works for LG or some other company to get the radio working.. or as stated before, some who understands android coding extremely well such.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't RC work with LG? If so can't he try to contact them about the kernel not supporting the G2x. I refuse to give up even though it seems hopeless at this point lol
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I sent an email asking for assistance to someone at NVIDIA who does supervisory work with Tegra and Linux programming. I hope he replies.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't RC work with LG? If so can't he try to contact them about the kernel not supporting the G2x. I refuse to give up even though it seems hopeless at this point lol
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He doesn't work for LG but he is in good terms with the developers at LG.
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