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[Q] Thoughts on Tab?

Hey all,
I used to own a xoom back when it was first released. I kept it for about 14 days and decided to return it due to honeycomb being generally slow and having almost no apps. But i did love honeycomb as an os.
Now i just noticed this transformer tablet, it seems like it has almost identical specs to the xoom but from the videos it appears to run MUCH faster. It looks like there is no homescreen lag and when you push a button, something happens.
Anyone who had both the xoom and this tab able to confirm?
Another issue on the xoom was we had to convert most, if not all, of our movies to some specific format because the xoom wouldn't natively play them. Is this issue still prevalent?
Would you guys reccomend this tab?
Thanks

I got the Xoom 3G when it first came out and returned it after a couple weeks. Then more recently I bought a Xoom Wifi, ended up returning that too. Now have the Transformer.
I'd say the performance feels the same between the Xoom and the Transformer. Scrolling through screens is okay, tiny bit of lag. And probably the only reason I notice it is because I'm coming from an iPad.
Application crashes have gotten better. The first Xoom 3G I owned had way too many application crashes for my taste. The browser would crash multiple times a day, the Market and YouTube apps would crash at least once a day. And installing apps from Market would get wonky about 50% of the time.
However with the more recent Xoom wifi and Transformer I notice stability has improved a lot. Particularly the browser that caused me the most trouble has now not crashed once on either Xoom wifi or Transformer. YouTube and the Market have crashed a couple times, but it's now a less frequent issue. The Market also still sometimes goes wonky while installing an app, but it went from 50% of the time down to maybe 5-10% of the time now.
So to me it feels like the software experience on the Xoom and Transformer is very similar in stability and performance. I just think Honeycomb has had a couple months to mature now and so feels a bit better compared to when the Xoom first came out.
PS. Forgot to answer the video converting question. That is still an issue. I have a hard time playing most of my video files on the Transformer. I installed Rock Player, YXPlayer, ArcMedia, Mobo Player, and vPlayer, and some of these do better than others at playing certain files. But I still get a lot of jerkiness, not supported, or out of sync voices. So I just need to Handbrake videos first.

mchimney said:
Hey all,
I used to own a xoom back when it was first released. I kept it for about 14 days and decided to return it due to honeycomb being generally slow and having almost no apps. But i did love honeycomb as an os.
Now i just noticed this transformer tablet, it seems like it has almost identical specs to the xoom but from the videos it appears to run MUCH faster. It looks like there is no homescreen lag and when you push a button, something happens.
Anyone who had both the xoom and this tab able to confirm?
Another issue on the xoom was we had to convert most, if not all, of our movies to some specific format because the xoom wouldn't natively play them. Is this issue still prevalent?
Would you guys reccomend this tab?
Thanks
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I have done a review of the tab here have a look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060786

I have a perfect Infinity TF700--I love it!

It was suggested that those with great Infinity TF700s who are happy with them post about how great their tablet is. I've been saying that mine (32GB Amethyst Grey with the TF700 AG Keyboard Dock) is a fantastic device and I wouldn't trade it for anything currently on the market.
My tab is flawless, hardware-wise: no loose screen, lifted edges, light bleed, dead pixels, scratches, etc. It is rooted, unlocked and has TWRP custom recovery and ZEUS v4 ICS stock-based custom rom, which makes it so fluid and deliciously fast. I'm using Browser2Ram, which seems to have improved browsing (which wasn't bad anyway). I really am not experiencing I/O issues (RL Benchmark shows 19 overall, but random writes is still slow) and antutu scores consistently over 14,000. Navigating the Netflix app sucks, but playback is a delight. The Infinity screen is so nice, it's hard to watch a video on anything else. I do have some issues with apps that are not yet optimised for the screen resolution, but that will come in time. The keyboard dock is just an integral part of my TF700. I can't do without it. I go all day with lots of screen-on time, browsing (much time on xda!) and I've never yet gone to bed without some charge remaining. Standby battery life is astonishing.
I installed Google Now and I keep forgetting that the Infinity is still on ICS. It is performing like a champ and is as good as my three other Jellybean devices. Oh, and I usually operate in powersave or balanced mode! The custom rom and various system tweaks are responsible for this improved performance. In my experience, custom roms/kernels will always trump stock. I understand why people are hesitant to unlock and lose their ASUS warranty, but I bought a 2 year Square Trade warranty with coverage for accidental damage, so I feel pretty good about my unlocked state. It's well worth it.
Well that's my happy story. My advice is: don't put up with bad hardware. Exchange it if there are any major issues or minor issues that will bug you. keep exchanging til you are satisfied. Software-wise, there are many improvements coming your way. Be a bit patient for JB and later updates, or be adventurous and root/unlock and flash the great rom we have now...there will be more to come.

Me too lol.
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initially, i started having trouble with slowness and force closes. but after a hard reset, everything seems fine now. I recently had an issue with Maps, but the problem has gone away.

I have some minor light bleeds that I can live with, maybe 1-2 game crash in about a month of ownership, tablet is still not accepting my class 10 microsd 64gb (luckily the dock is fine with it), havent tried the blue tooth and streaming yet. I overall satisfied with it and waiting to see if JB can make it even better.

Me too. I love mine. :lol: No issues what so ever.

I agree 100%
It`s built with perfection, no problem with the screen, dock etc. I have no lag or slugginess. It plays anything i throw at it. I run it just as it was out of the box. I have no problem with battery. Keep it with me all day, wifi allways active, surfing, writing, reading a lot. Heavy email user. Allways runs in "balanced" mode. Medium screen brightness. Only time i really notice any battery drain is when i stream and play my 1080p shows from my windows home server, i watch 4-5 hours at night and then i recharge, very normal for a tab. Browser sucks but thats a software issue.
When i read some of the negative comments and post over the last few days i first thought i was in the wrong forum, this cant be my TF700T they are talking about? But i really feel for thoose of you who have got problems with loose screens etc. Take that unit back to the store asap, thats not how the TF700T should be. And most of them are not.
I owned several tabs and tablet PC`s. I have very high standards and I dont stand for poor build quality, laggy software. Believe me when I say the TF700T is right now one of the absolute best Android tablets on the market. (In 2 months who know..)
I own the european (WW) version with 64mb and the only thing that explains the difference in build quality is there from different build batches in the assembly line.
For anyone that thinking about picking one up I say go for it!
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app

+1

+1 Here. I am having TF700 for the past one month ( Exchanged my TF201 in BestBuy) . I don't have any problems with it. Very very negligible light bleed ( i can live with it) , No lag at all. No problems with the battery . GPS works like a dream , Wifi is considerably strong and stable ( compared with TF201 ) .
Another happy user here.

Mine is also flawless. The screen's amazing, great for reading and HD video.

This is turning out to be just like the Primes "Positive Thread." With all the negitive post a few have been posting and reposting, it's nice to have a solid thread where people can express there joy satisfaction regarding owning the Infinity. I am also in the positive happy catagory very little to non exsistant LB! Everything is solid even streaming/using my BT headset for audio is great!
JB is starting to pop up as well Can't wait for some JB love!

No bugs here that weren't my non understanding of the OS or features of the tablet.
A few threads about problem devices had me pushing on the glass and thinking my wifi and GPS were under-performing.
Haven't seen any of that after 38 days of tinkering.
Hell I even left Mr Infinity all alone for two whole days!
When I flipped open the cover and pressed the button he woke up and said "swipe me!!!"
Very exciting l tell you.
Color me happy...

i want to love mine but i dont know if i just keep getting unlucky. google play force closes on me a lot ;[ . movies are fine and beautiful make sure u partition ur sd cards right. games run fine that you actually buy. other then that this tablet is sexy as f

Im also very happy with mine its perfect, no light bleeds no loose screen nothing. its also very stable.

I exchanged my Best Buy Prime last weekend for an Infinity and I have none of the issues others are talking about. This is what the Prime should have been all along. No bleed, wifi and GPS both good. Very pleased.

It's good to see a thread like this. It gets pretty discouraging reading those negative threads of problems.
I have had my Infinity since July and am loving it!
No issues with screen, USB SD card or any of the reported problems I have seen.
This 64 Gb tablet has a dock and I have stuffed the SD slots with 32Gb's each.
It just WORKS!
The only thing that hasn't been tried is the HDMI. I have no need for it yet but the way things are going, it should be good to go.
I am so glad I didn't go with an iPad!

Mine became perfect when I read in these forums to turn on the performance mode. Ever since purchasing this tablet i had it in balanced mode and didn't even consider moving it to performance mode. Once I did that the tablet became smoother, faster and were no longer having issues with the tablet. It is like having a new tablet.
I appreciate the info i have gotten in this forum. It has kept me from making a mistake in returning this tablet. I am totally satisfied with the TF700.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app

My TF700T with its two TF201 dock keyboards works great. I have had zero issues from the start. I use my tablet with the dock most of the time as a unit. So much so that I purchased an additional TF201 dock keyboard. I keep the second dock attached to my AC power charger awaiting the need to swap out the dock thats currents attached to my tablet. After a heavy day of usage my tablet has some where around 40% remaining with the dock almost drained. At that time I just exchange docks and I am good to go. Both of my dock keyboards are a TF201 Prime version but both were updated from revision 206 to 207 as soon as they had the tablet inserted into them with a wifi network connected. I had a TF101 and a TF201 but this unit is fantastic from my standpoint. I can only imagine how it will perform once Jelly Bean is loaded onto it.

Only problem I have with my infinity is the browsing, but I expect that will be fixed directly. Other than that my device is good to go.

Loving mine as well, netflix works great and the only problem I've noticed is that sometimes I fail to press the h key. Great otherwise, tablet talk works great for it as well. Got a neoprene (roocase) case for it which works great
MovingZen said:
Only problem I have with my infinity is the browsing, but I expect that will be fixed directly. Other than that my device is good to go.
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Chrome as been wonderful for me, and it renders everything great - havent even noticed im in android tbh
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T

Have infinity for about a month.
No problems so far.

How's the overall performance of this tablet?

The Prime had I/O issues and so did the TF300 (which I briefly owned). I read the Nexus 7 does as well. Every time I'm downloading torrents or even an app from the Play Store, the system would just be non-responsive. Or my browser would just give me errors saying App is Not Responding. Do you guys experience this on the Tf700? Is this an ICS problem or does it happen on JB as well?

situman said:
The Prime had I/O issues and so did the TF300 (which I briefly owned). I read the Nexus 7 does as well. Every time I'm downloading torrents or even an app from the Play Store, the system would just be non-responsive. Or my browser would just give me errors saying App is Not Responding. Do you guys experience this on the Tf700? Is this an ICS problem or does it happen on JB as well?
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Had very very few ANR's before JB..
Now they are nonexistent! Buttery smooth like Google promised! :good::good:

This seems to be more of an ICS problem. I have the TF300T, and when I upgraded to JB, a LOT of the unresponsiveness was taken care of. I am not saying that the TF300 performs just as well as the TF700, but JB makes a dramatical difference.

To be honest its pretty bad on my end. If i download a file (even at 250kb/sec) it gets so sluggy its not even usable. This is the only problem i have, too bad its a big one.

I do not use android devices to download torrents unless I have no intentions to use them soon. Apparently, it seems that Android does not handle large files nearly as well as PCs and Macs. I have an Of Evo, and the phone would not turn back on Irvine turn the screen off when I begin to download a torrent. I thought that this tablet would change the game completely, but it did not. Still a great device, but I am learning its limits slowly. (Don't be concerned., because it is not many. I just have an eye for some off these little things.)
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using xda app-developers app

to be honest, i was pretty pissed off at the ICS version of this tablet. there were heaps of glowing reviews out there, but the truth was here on XDA, only i found out too late. i was getting ANRs, had a white-screen freeze/reboot, the webbrowsing in Chrome and stock were BRUTAL. was even getting occasional stutters playing music from the microSD card. and come on, opening and closing the app drawer should not be occasion for lag! luckily, i avoided the build quality issues that some were having, but i really thought this tablet was not ready for primetime.
and then the JB update happened.
again, to be honest, i wasn't expecting much. but for me, it's been a revelation -- with JB, the TF700 is what it should have been to begin with. smmmoooooth. fast. responsive. no funny business.
hoping that future minor updates will only improve it.

If you are downloading lots of torrents, you need a different tablet than the ASUS series, IMHO. After JB, it's a fantastic daily driver but the for I/O junkies the hardware will always have some limitation. For general streaming, apps, games, browsing, it is awesome but doing huge background downloads will always be suboptimal on this hardware. If that is your use model you want something else.
For downloading apps and updating stuff, JB seems to have improved things well enough that most basic users and lots of power users (including myself) are not going to bothered by it much if at all, but it will never be a screamer in the I/O dept.

zenaxe said:
If you are downloading lots of torrents, you need a different tablet than the ASUS series, IMHO. After JB, it's a fantastic daily driver but the for I/O junkies the hardware will always have some limitation. For general streaming, apps, games, browsing, it is awesome but doing huge background downloads will always be suboptimal on this hardware. If that is your use model you want something else.
For downloading apps and updating stuff, JB seems to have improved things well enough that most basic users and lots of power users (including myself) are not going to bothered by it much if at all, but it will never be a screamer in the I/O dept.
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Yes, I see that, and I can certainly agree. As I continue to learn more about different devices, I slowly filter out that device is ideal for which task. Unfortunately, not enough people see things my way, and expect one device to work as good as any other device in their home...but it doesn't work that way.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using xda app-developers app

situman said:
The Prime had I/O issues and so did the TF300 (which I briefly owned). I read the Nexus 7 does as well. Every time I'm downloading torrents or even an app from the Play Store, the system would just be non-responsive. Or my browser would just give me errors saying App is Not Responding. Do you guys experience this on the Tf700? Is this an ICS problem or does it happen on JB as well?
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I/O itself is what is it. It is set by hardware, which benchmark shows. Infinity's IO is not as bad as some believe according to my research. Iconia A700, or other android tablet has similar scores on benchmark. So it is how current generation of Android tablet are generally designed. Some tablet though used better IO component such as Galaxy Note 10.1. But it does not have Full HD. When price of unit is similar, manufacture has to decide what to include and where to save.
As far as the user experience end, initially when I got TF700 the day of release in US. I had application not responding, almost complete froze while application is downloading from Playstore. These have changed (even before Jellybean).
1. ANR - Honestly, I rarely have this now. May be once or twice a week? But key here now is interrupt i.e. clicking home button will instantly interrupt and take me back to home screen. So no true freezing. I even got freeze application on iPad 2 or on Galaxy Note 10.1 at least once or twice a week. So in this regard, Infinity is now pretty much as good as it can get.
2. System Non-responsiveness while download - This had also been vastly improved. I did a little testing with internal network 1GB+ download in background, and launched Final Fantasy 3. No lag or delay. However, if I do the same with Horn it basically becomes non-playable. So depending on what you want to do, the issue may or may not be noticeable.
3. System lag while application install - This is still there. Though not to the point system complete froze, but stuttering and lag becomes noticeable. Though this is true even on my desktop sometimes, and I don't think iPad would even allow you to install application while you run other application. So I am ok.
So overall, I think what we attribute things to as IO issue is essentially resolved to the point it can be. If there is any option, Galaxy Note 10.1 may be only one it may perform better in this regard. So you have to list your priority as others say.

Yea just picked up a Note 10.1 and the performance is night and day versus the Prime that I had. It takes multi task to a whole new level and I mean really intense multi tasking such as downloading huge files and hardly a blip. Though the screen leaves something to be desired, its a good performance trade off.

Possible reason for stuttery/slowness/gliches on the tf700 after JB update

I think i might have a possible reasons for the non-buttery smoothness some people have been experience with the tf700. Now most of the time i have my tab connected to the dock for typing in class, emails etc... but today i left my dock at home for the first time. Throughout the day i noticed that my tab was flying! Seriously the browser, going through the file manager, opening and closing apps. Nearly as fast as my GS3. I though asus might have sent an update or something without me knowing because this was a completely different tablet.
Once i got home i had to type up a report and needed the dock. I noticed that immediately after connecting it....the tab was not as fast. Now note that i have another sd card in the dock. What i began to notice was that once the the tab was connected, the combination of readying the the sd card in the dock for use combined with the change in the keyboard slowed down the responsiveness of the tablet immensely. Everything took an extra 1/2 millisecond. Now it wasn't "slow" but definitely "slower" than when it was not connect to the dock with the SD card.
So my questions to those that aren't as satisfied with the JB update:
1.Do you have a dock and is it always connected to the tab?
2.Do you have a micro or regular SD card within the dock?
3. Is the slowness/non-buttery smoothness you experience occur when you are connected to the dock with the above two criteria?
For those that are satisfied i want you to answer the same questions.
I honestly believe it is because of the dock/extra sd card configuration that some of us are experiencing the lag that we do. If my theory is correct, then hopefully asus can get this fixed with a software update.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T

an extra HALF MILLISECOND?!?! omg so slooooooowwww.
seriously though, maybe you mean an extra half second? i was using my tablet without the doc last night and i didn't think it was any faster. i'll do a little testing both ways and see if i notice any difference.

urrlyx said:
an extra HALF MILLISECOND?!?! omg so slooooooowwww.
seriously though, maybe you mean an extra half second? i was using my tablet without the doc last night and i didn't think it was any faster. i'll do a little testing both ways and see if i notice any difference.
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haha i was exaggerating. I just meant that its marginally slower than when dock. Yea do a test let us know if you too see a difference. Even if you dont consider it to be "slow" when docked, if it hangs slightly longer then when undocked, let us know. Also report if the SD card is inserted or not. Thanks!
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T

My experience is It slows up abit at wake up then it goes back to normal after it reads both cards. Just gotta wait a bit. This is at balanced mode.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium

Sound theory IMO - I'm a squeaky wheel and I'm always using the dock - after reading this I'll avoid it for a few days and post results.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app

amenic said:
Sound theory IMO - I'm a squeaky wheel and I'm always using the dock - after reading this I'll avoid it for a few days and post results.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app
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Awesome looking forward to your report along with everyone elses!
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T

I had a play around, and I couldn't see a difference between docked or separated. Random question though...what background are you using? Do you store your background on the SD card in your dock?
I only ask because I was the same as you...disappointed in the performance after upgrading to JB. I am not sure if it is because of what I was expecting from my other devices (Nexus 7 and GN). Either way, it wasn't quite smooth enough.
It wasn't until I went hunting until I found my own answer...completely disabling my wallpaper. Just a standard static wallpaper...it wasn't a live wallpaper or anything. That is when my TF700T became as smooth as my other two devices. Love it now...but miss my wallpaper
I use Apex Launcher and disable it in there...any kind of wallpaper results in jitter at the home screen...and switching windows. Especially bringing up the notification menu. So I would ask you to check that one for me if you can...
As far as the other people in here...I am not sure that anyone else cares about the fluidity of the interface. My original thread didn't seem to get much attention...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=8821186
Let me know your results!

Same findings re. the wallpaper
Ive been using Asus Day scene live wallpaper and love it but changed to the stock asus static wallpaper and Nova is at least 2x faster
No Noticeable difference for me between using the Tab with or without the dock!

For what it's worth, my TF700 is almost always docked and this thing flies! I am using stock launcher with a static background. When I do un-dock it, I haven't noticed any performance difference. I am not using an SD card in the dock, if that means anything (but I do use a MicroSD card in the tablet itself).
I'm interested in seeing some more responses to this thread. Like I said, I have absolutely *zero* performance issues with Jelly Bean and with Browser2RAM (and the "Enable CPU Upload path" option enabled), the stock browser is insanely fast and an absolute joy to use.
I think it's also worth mentioning what launcher you use when responding - I've found that the stock launcher performs the best and is the most stable.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

I don't think its the dock. I think it's the touchpad. It's very unresponsive, particularly when scrolling and gives the impression that the tablet is sluggish.
Try this experiment - instead of using the touchpad, perform all your normal tasks by using the screen instead. After a few minutes you'll realize that its plenty fast. Or try using a good USB mouse. Scrolling in the web browser is effortless with a mouse but feels like your stuck in the mud with the touchpad.
I have a high end ASUS gaming laptop and I have the same problem - the touchpad is really really bad. This just seems to be another thing that ASUS can't quite seem to get right.

Slow, laggy and regular crashes.

Hi
My mum got a TF700T for Christmas and since the first use she's been underwhelmed by it.
It feels very slow, menus are jerky, apps are jerky and very slow to load.
Apps regularly close for no reason or Force Close.
Browser regularly freezes. Freezes for a bit when opening a tab, very jerky scrolling.
I assume it has the latest OTA.
The tab is totally stock with just a handful of apps from the Play Store.
Just now she described to me that the screen "went brown, had speckles and then it rebooted". I'm using it trying to replicate this now.
Is this normal for a TF700T? I know there's a lot of pixel to push on the screen but it has a Tegra3 quad core which should by all accounts, be more than capable.
Just got a notification for an OTA which is
"JRO03C.WW_epad-10.4.4.25-20121228" Hopefully might improve the situation somewhat.
Cheers all
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Slow as hell, freezing. Is it normal?

skymera said:
Hi
My mum got a TF700T for Christmas and since the first use she's been underwhelmed by it.
It feels very slow, menus are jerky, apps are jerky and very slow to load.
Apps regularly close for no reason or Force Close.
Browser regularly freezes. Freezes for a bit when opening a tab, very jerky scrolling.
I assume it has the latest OTA.
The tab is totally stock with just a handful of apps from the Play Store.
Just now she described to me that the screen "went brown, had speckles and then it rebooted". I'm using it trying to replicate this now.
Is this normal for a TF700T? I know there's a lot of pixel to push on the screen but it has a Tegra3 quad core which should by all accounts, be more than capable.
Just got a notification for an OTA which is
"JRO03C.WW_epad-10.4.4.25-20121228" Hopefully might improve the situation somewhat.
Cheers all
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Slow as hell, freezing. Is it normal?
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No it's not normal at all, if you do a clean install stock rom it should works fairly decent. If you unlock and flash Cleanrom it will flies!! This is no joke!!

If you unlock, flash cleanrom and then install dual boot ubuntu, it will blow your mind.

I never know what to say when this query pops up.
I'm with the CROMi users, yet this tablet should of course run fine with the original OS.
The consensus obviously is all over the place as far as user experience.
Some are fine with Android in the pure form others are disappointed.
I was initially disappointed, yet after going with a custom ROM the satisfaction and performance level has topped out.

I do agree this is not normal but.. reading what Asus tells people like on Newegg haha their answer was to "cold boot it should take care of it". Not call us we will fix it but act like this is normal. When some people never have this problem..