Possible reason for stuttery/slowness/gliches on the tf700 after JB update - Asus Transformer TF700

I think i might have a possible reasons for the non-buttery smoothness some people have been experience with the tf700. Now most of the time i have my tab connected to the dock for typing in class, emails etc... but today i left my dock at home for the first time. Throughout the day i noticed that my tab was flying! Seriously the browser, going through the file manager, opening and closing apps. Nearly as fast as my GS3. I though asus might have sent an update or something without me knowing because this was a completely different tablet.
Once i got home i had to type up a report and needed the dock. I noticed that immediately after connecting it....the tab was not as fast. Now note that i have another sd card in the dock. What i began to notice was that once the the tab was connected, the combination of readying the the sd card in the dock for use combined with the change in the keyboard slowed down the responsiveness of the tablet immensely. Everything took an extra 1/2 millisecond. Now it wasn't "slow" but definitely "slower" than when it was not connect to the dock with the SD card.
So my questions to those that aren't as satisfied with the JB update:
1.Do you have a dock and is it always connected to the tab?
2.Do you have a micro or regular SD card within the dock?
3. Is the slowness/non-buttery smoothness you experience occur when you are connected to the dock with the above two criteria?
For those that are satisfied i want you to answer the same questions.
I honestly believe it is because of the dock/extra sd card configuration that some of us are experiencing the lag that we do. If my theory is correct, then hopefully asus can get this fixed with a software update.
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an extra HALF MILLISECOND?!?! omg so slooooooowwww.
seriously though, maybe you mean an extra half second? i was using my tablet without the doc last night and i didn't think it was any faster. i'll do a little testing both ways and see if i notice any difference.

urrlyx said:
an extra HALF MILLISECOND?!?! omg so slooooooowwww.
seriously though, maybe you mean an extra half second? i was using my tablet without the doc last night and i didn't think it was any faster. i'll do a little testing both ways and see if i notice any difference.
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haha i was exaggerating. I just meant that its marginally slower than when dock. Yea do a test let us know if you too see a difference. Even if you dont consider it to be "slow" when docked, if it hangs slightly longer then when undocked, let us know. Also report if the SD card is inserted or not. Thanks!
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My experience is It slows up abit at wake up then it goes back to normal after it reads both cards. Just gotta wait a bit. This is at balanced mode.
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Sound theory IMO - I'm a squeaky wheel and I'm always using the dock - after reading this I'll avoid it for a few days and post results.
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amenic said:
Sound theory IMO - I'm a squeaky wheel and I'm always using the dock - after reading this I'll avoid it for a few days and post results.
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Awesome looking forward to your report along with everyone elses!
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I had a play around, and I couldn't see a difference between docked or separated. Random question though...what background are you using? Do you store your background on the SD card in your dock?
I only ask because I was the same as you...disappointed in the performance after upgrading to JB. I am not sure if it is because of what I was expecting from my other devices (Nexus 7 and GN). Either way, it wasn't quite smooth enough.
It wasn't until I went hunting until I found my own answer...completely disabling my wallpaper. Just a standard static wallpaper...it wasn't a live wallpaper or anything. That is when my TF700T became as smooth as my other two devices. Love it now...but miss my wallpaper
I use Apex Launcher and disable it in there...any kind of wallpaper results in jitter at the home screen...and switching windows. Especially bringing up the notification menu. So I would ask you to check that one for me if you can...
As far as the other people in here...I am not sure that anyone else cares about the fluidity of the interface. My original thread didn't seem to get much attention...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=8821186
Let me know your results!

Same findings re. the wallpaper
Ive been using Asus Day scene live wallpaper and love it but changed to the stock asus static wallpaper and Nova is at least 2x faster
No Noticeable difference for me between using the Tab with or without the dock!

For what it's worth, my TF700 is almost always docked and this thing flies! I am using stock launcher with a static background. When I do un-dock it, I haven't noticed any performance difference. I am not using an SD card in the dock, if that means anything (but I do use a MicroSD card in the tablet itself).
I'm interested in seeing some more responses to this thread. Like I said, I have absolutely *zero* performance issues with Jelly Bean and with Browser2RAM (and the "Enable CPU Upload path" option enabled), the stock browser is insanely fast and an absolute joy to use.
I think it's also worth mentioning what launcher you use when responding - I've found that the stock launcher performs the best and is the most stable.
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I don't think its the dock. I think it's the touchpad. It's very unresponsive, particularly when scrolling and gives the impression that the tablet is sluggish.
Try this experiment - instead of using the touchpad, perform all your normal tasks by using the screen instead. After a few minutes you'll realize that its plenty fast. Or try using a good USB mouse. Scrolling in the web browser is effortless with a mouse but feels like your stuck in the mud with the touchpad.
I have a high end ASUS gaming laptop and I have the same problem - the touchpad is really really bad. This just seems to be another thing that ASUS can't quite seem to get right.

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Are you satisfied with the TF700?

So I've seen a lot of people say their tablet is great, awesome,... but others complain about I/O issues, lags,... Looks like a half of the people in this forum not satisfied with it.
Please help me make my decision before buying by voting and explaining why you're satisfied or not. Thanks
Great idea! I'll vote once mine arrives. Over in the Prime section, there was a poll pretty similar that ended up showing that the vast majority were happy with their device, even though the comments indicated it should have been otherwise.
I'm thinking that the reason so many appear to have issues is because those with problems are more likely to say something than those without. It'll be interesting to see how this turns out.
I'm happy. ever since i installed all of my apps, i haven't experienced any lag issues. also, i downloaded a torrent and had no problems with that either. initially, my 64gb card could not be recognized, but after doing some formatting, its working fine now. add this to the extra room for storage and a great dock, and I'm pretty darn happy. i doubt i will turn on my xoom again, unless it gets jelly bean first.
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The screen is gorgeous and it handles 720p videos well for such a lightweight and compact device. The build quality is also superb.
The thing I hate most is the proprietary charger. Why on earth would they not use mini-USB? Is Asus cheap enough to want extra money from people buying their cables?
The tablet rebooted for no reason a couple of times. And the stock browser is very laggy.
Happy customer overall.
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The screen is gorgeous and it handles 720p videos well for such a lightweight and compact device. The build quality is also superb.
The thing I hate most is the proprietary charger. Why on earth would they not use mini-USB? Is Asus cheap enough to want extra money from people buying their cables?
The tablet rebooted for no reason a couple of times. And the stock browser is very laggy.
Happy customer overall.
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It's because the USB port doubles as the dock connector.
Happy with mine. A little disappointed with the wifi netflix and bluetooth to Jambox. Slows down the download and voice is delayed. Even playing games with Jambox is a delay. But I guess I can use my earphones. My prime had the same issue. Everything else is good. Wifi is excellent. GPS is excellent. Bluetooth is very Strong. But like I said it effects the download speed when both wifi and bluetooth are both on. I don't know why.
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sapienssapiens said:
The screen is gorgeous and it handles 720p videos well for such a lightweight and compact device. The build quality is also superb.
The thing I hate most is the proprietary charger. Why on earth would they not use mini-USB? Is Asus cheap enough to want extra money from people buying their cables?
The tablet rebooted for no reason a couple of times. And the stock browser is very laggy.
Happy customer overall.
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I've been sitting here trying the various browsers. boat is smooth, but sometime the screen disappears. which makes me close it out and go back in. chrome is OK. but when scrolling down pages with images, it doesn't render fast enough. And no flash. the stock is slow and the rendering is an issue again. Opera WAS great, but its not as fast as the others. Firefox didn't work for me at all, the nightlies build. which brings me to Dolphin. no rendering issues. i can go to a page with 50 images on it, and scrolling thru them is smooth. its fast. and i love the gestures. so if you don't like the stock browser, try dolphin HD.
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I've been sitting here trying the various browsers. boat is smooth, but sometime the screen disappears. which makes me close it out and go back in. chrome is OK. but when scrolling down pages with images, it doesn't render fast enough. And no flash. the stock is slow and the rendering is an issue again. Opera WAS great, but its not as fast as the others. Firefox didn't work for me at all, the nightlies build. which brings me to Dolphin. no rendering issues. i can go to a page with 50 images on it, and scrolling thru them is smooth. its fast. and i love the gestures. so if you don't like the stock browser, try dolphin HD.
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You forgot Maxthon
It has tablet version
I'm using it's mobile version, and think it's great.
Dolphin is not bad, but it gas no quick links. Maxthon has it all, just like it's desktop version.
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timrock said:
I've been sitting here trying the various browsers. boat is smooth, but sometime the screen disappears. which makes me close it out and go back in. chrome is OK. but when scrolling down pages with images, it doesn't render fast enough. And no flash. the stock is slow and the rendering is an issue again. Opera WAS great, but its not as fast as the others. Firefox didn't work for me at all, the nightlies build. which brings me to Dolphin. no rendering issues. i can go to a page with 50 images on it, and scrolling thru them is smooth. its fast. and i love the gestures. so if you don't like the stock browser, try dolphin HD.
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Dolphin is by far the best..
Eroc162 said:
Happy with mine. A little disappointed with the wifi netflix and bluetooth to Jambox. Slows down the download and voice is delayed. Even playing games with Jambox is a delay. But I guess I can use my earphones. My prime had the same issue. Everything else is good. Wifi is excellent. GPS is excellent. Bluetooth is very Strong. But like I said it effects the download speed when both wifi and bluetooth are both on. I don't know why.
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Hmmm I wonder if there's some software that can alleviate your problem? Maybe something to offset the audio from the video so it plays back in sync?
There should be a yes-ish option
I think at times, my TF700 does get a little laggy / slow. This is with the .26 firmware, which did fix a bit of the prior IO issues, but the tablet itself still feels laggy / bogged down sometimes when scrolling through or using the mouse.
I am overall very happy with mine. Yes it has a few bugs to work out, but nothing that is breaking the device. I have slight light bleeding in a couple spots, but there again not enough to bother me. If you want a 10 inch tablet right this second, this is hands down the best choice!
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Im happy with the tablet and the response time we get from Asus regarding updates.
I'd have to say I"m very satisfied with it. The screen is gorgeous, the device is fast, the build quality is top notch (although some others have had issues), and the dock adds a lot of functionality.
Its not perfect though. The web browsing is pretty crap unless you use Dolphin, which is really good but I myself am a little irked having to use it due to that privacy invasion scandle it was involved with a while back. And the top battery life you get with actual use (by that I dont mean videos, since they're ran entirely on the power saver 5th core) is about 6 hours, pretty shy of the advertised 9.5 hours.
I dont mean to sound like a complainer here, it really is a great tablet and its only going to get better with updates. I'd recommend it to anybody without any hesitation.
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Im happy with the tablet and the response time we get from Asus regarding updates.
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I think that some answers might change with the new update (.26). I was "ok" with the Infinity up until the update and now I'm very happy. The lag and sluggish behavior is pretty much gone which changes my feelings on it.
Eroc162 said:
Happy with mine. A little disappointed with the wifi netflix and bluetooth to Jambox. Slows down the download and voice is delayed. Even playing games with Jambox is a delay. But I guess I can use my earphones. My prime had the same issue. Everything else is good. Wifi is excellent. GPS is excellent. Bluetooth is very Strong. But like I said it effects the download speed when both wifi and bluetooth are both on. I don't know why.
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I know what you mean with the Wifi/BT. I experienced it on my Prime and know the problem is real. I also know not every tablet will have it. I've exchanged my Prime for another one because of this problem. My second one worked perfectly with wifi/bt. My Tf700 does not experience this issue either. I am not doubting you and know the feeling of having spent all this money and it not work with wireless speakers and headsets.
If you are within your return period then jump on it. Return it and take your chances with a new tablet if this issue is really going to get to you. Sending it in for RMA could be useless and more problematic. When things got real rough with the Prime there were a good number that came back with the same problem or damaged at the repair facility.
As to the poll, I'm really pleased with my tablet. I really like the new power/volume buttons and sdcard slot. Seems minor but that click when pressing down makes it feel like a better built product. Got some light bleed but that is the only issue I have.
Unfortunately, I had to vote no since there wasn't a "Its alright" option
Hardware-wise, this thing is a beast. No real complaints at all.
Software-wise, meh...
I bought this tablet to be a bigger badder version of why I use my phone - namely watch movies, surf the web, and distract my kid with games.
Watching movies has been hit or miss. All movies look fantastic but playback has been an issue. Every player I've tried (MXPlayer, VPlayer, Dice, Mobo, etc) crash every few minutes when using software decoding. Looking at their respective forums and XDA, it seems to be linked to T3 so I have to wait for a fix. I know I could re-encode everything so I can use the hardware decoder but who has time to do that?
Surfing has been OK but android browsers haven't been all that great:
Chrome: no flash and wont let me download anything. I just get a Download Unsuccessful message.
Stock was just painful.
Opera was OK. It was the only browser that would let me select the microSD card as the download directory. Unfortunately, after downloading, everything ended up in the INternal download directory no matter what path I told it to download to.
Dolphin HD has been fine but I can't seem to download anything 2GB or above. Otherwise, it would be the clear winner for me.
FF is getting on my nerves with that left hand navigation strip, no ability to clear Top Sites, or very limited settings and add-ons. I'm keeping it though since its been the only browser that allows me to download 2GB+ files.
Can't say anything bad about game play. I haven't done much of that myself but my kid has a blast!
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Unfortunately, I had to vote no since there wasn't a "Its alright" option
Hardware-wise, this thing is a beast. No real complaints at all.
Software-wise, meh...
I bought this tablet to be a bigger badder version of why I use my phone - namely watch movies, surf the web, and distract my kid with games.
Watching movies has been hit or miss. All movies look fantastic but playback has been an issue. Every player I've tried (MXPlayer, VPlayer, Dice, Mobo, etc) crash every few minutes when using software decoding. Looking at their respective forums and XDA, it seems to be linked to T3 so I have to wait for a fix. I know I could re-encode everything so I can use the hardware decoder but who has time to do that?
Surfing has been OK but android browsers haven't been all that great:
Chrome: no flash and wont let me download anything. I just get a Download Unsuccessful message.
Stock was just painful.
Opera was OK. It was the only browser that would let me select the microSD card as the download directory. Unfortunately, after downloading, everything ended up in the INternal download directory no matter what path I told it to download to.
Dolphin HD has been fine but I can't seem to download anything 2GB or above. Otherwise, it would be the clear winner for me.
FF is getting on my nerves with that left hand navigation strip, no ability to clear Top Sites, or very limited settings and add-ons. I'm keeping it though since its been the only browser that allows me to download 2GB+ files.
Can't say anything bad about game play. I haven't done much of that myself but my kid has a blast!
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Check out Boat Browser - it's my new go-to browser...
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I'm so satisfied I literally exploded.
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I have a perfect Infinity TF700--I love it!

It was suggested that those with great Infinity TF700s who are happy with them post about how great their tablet is. I've been saying that mine (32GB Amethyst Grey with the TF700 AG Keyboard Dock) is a fantastic device and I wouldn't trade it for anything currently on the market.
My tab is flawless, hardware-wise: no loose screen, lifted edges, light bleed, dead pixels, scratches, etc. It is rooted, unlocked and has TWRP custom recovery and ZEUS v4 ICS stock-based custom rom, which makes it so fluid and deliciously fast. I'm using Browser2Ram, which seems to have improved browsing (which wasn't bad anyway). I really am not experiencing I/O issues (RL Benchmark shows 19 overall, but random writes is still slow) and antutu scores consistently over 14,000. Navigating the Netflix app sucks, but playback is a delight. The Infinity screen is so nice, it's hard to watch a video on anything else. I do have some issues with apps that are not yet optimised for the screen resolution, but that will come in time. The keyboard dock is just an integral part of my TF700. I can't do without it. I go all day with lots of screen-on time, browsing (much time on xda!) and I've never yet gone to bed without some charge remaining. Standby battery life is astonishing.
I installed Google Now and I keep forgetting that the Infinity is still on ICS. It is performing like a champ and is as good as my three other Jellybean devices. Oh, and I usually operate in powersave or balanced mode! The custom rom and various system tweaks are responsible for this improved performance. In my experience, custom roms/kernels will always trump stock. I understand why people are hesitant to unlock and lose their ASUS warranty, but I bought a 2 year Square Trade warranty with coverage for accidental damage, so I feel pretty good about my unlocked state. It's well worth it.
Well that's my happy story. My advice is: don't put up with bad hardware. Exchange it if there are any major issues or minor issues that will bug you. keep exchanging til you are satisfied. Software-wise, there are many improvements coming your way. Be a bit patient for JB and later updates, or be adventurous and root/unlock and flash the great rom we have now...there will be more to come.
Me too lol.
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initially, i started having trouble with slowness and force closes. but after a hard reset, everything seems fine now. I recently had an issue with Maps, but the problem has gone away.
I have some minor light bleeds that I can live with, maybe 1-2 game crash in about a month of ownership, tablet is still not accepting my class 10 microsd 64gb (luckily the dock is fine with it), havent tried the blue tooth and streaming yet. I overall satisfied with it and waiting to see if JB can make it even better.
Me too. I love mine. :lol: No issues what so ever.
I agree 100%
It`s built with perfection, no problem with the screen, dock etc. I have no lag or slugginess. It plays anything i throw at it. I run it just as it was out of the box. I have no problem with battery. Keep it with me all day, wifi allways active, surfing, writing, reading a lot. Heavy email user. Allways runs in "balanced" mode. Medium screen brightness. Only time i really notice any battery drain is when i stream and play my 1080p shows from my windows home server, i watch 4-5 hours at night and then i recharge, very normal for a tab. Browser sucks but thats a software issue.
When i read some of the negative comments and post over the last few days i first thought i was in the wrong forum, this cant be my TF700T they are talking about? But i really feel for thoose of you who have got problems with loose screens etc. Take that unit back to the store asap, thats not how the TF700T should be. And most of them are not.
I owned several tabs and tablet PC`s. I have very high standards and I dont stand for poor build quality, laggy software. Believe me when I say the TF700T is right now one of the absolute best Android tablets on the market. (In 2 months who know..)
I own the european (WW) version with 64mb and the only thing that explains the difference in build quality is there from different build batches in the assembly line.
For anyone that thinking about picking one up I say go for it!
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+1 Here. I am having TF700 for the past one month ( Exchanged my TF201 in BestBuy) . I don't have any problems with it. Very very negligible light bleed ( i can live with it) , No lag at all. No problems with the battery . GPS works like a dream , Wifi is considerably strong and stable ( compared with TF201 ) .
Another happy user here.
Mine is also flawless. The screen's amazing, great for reading and HD video.
This is turning out to be just like the Primes "Positive Thread." With all the negitive post a few have been posting and reposting, it's nice to have a solid thread where people can express there joy satisfaction regarding owning the Infinity. I am also in the positive happy catagory very little to non exsistant LB! Everything is solid even streaming/using my BT headset for audio is great!
JB is starting to pop up as well Can't wait for some JB love!
No bugs here that weren't my non understanding of the OS or features of the tablet.
A few threads about problem devices had me pushing on the glass and thinking my wifi and GPS were under-performing.
Haven't seen any of that after 38 days of tinkering.
Hell I even left Mr Infinity all alone for two whole days!
When I flipped open the cover and pressed the button he woke up and said "swipe me!!!"
Very exciting l tell you.
Color me happy...
i want to love mine but i dont know if i just keep getting unlucky. google play force closes on me a lot ;[ . movies are fine and beautiful make sure u partition ur sd cards right. games run fine that you actually buy. other then that this tablet is sexy as f
Im also very happy with mine its perfect, no light bleeds no loose screen nothing. its also very stable.
I exchanged my Best Buy Prime last weekend for an Infinity and I have none of the issues others are talking about. This is what the Prime should have been all along. No bleed, wifi and GPS both good. Very pleased.
It's good to see a thread like this. It gets pretty discouraging reading those negative threads of problems.
I have had my Infinity since July and am loving it!
No issues with screen, USB SD card or any of the reported problems I have seen.
This 64 Gb tablet has a dock and I have stuffed the SD slots with 32Gb's each.
It just WORKS!
The only thing that hasn't been tried is the HDMI. I have no need for it yet but the way things are going, it should be good to go.
I am so glad I didn't go with an iPad!
Mine became perfect when I read in these forums to turn on the performance mode. Ever since purchasing this tablet i had it in balanced mode and didn't even consider moving it to performance mode. Once I did that the tablet became smoother, faster and were no longer having issues with the tablet. It is like having a new tablet.
I appreciate the info i have gotten in this forum. It has kept me from making a mistake in returning this tablet. I am totally satisfied with the TF700.
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My TF700T with its two TF201 dock keyboards works great. I have had zero issues from the start. I use my tablet with the dock most of the time as a unit. So much so that I purchased an additional TF201 dock keyboard. I keep the second dock attached to my AC power charger awaiting the need to swap out the dock thats currents attached to my tablet. After a heavy day of usage my tablet has some where around 40% remaining with the dock almost drained. At that time I just exchange docks and I am good to go. Both of my dock keyboards are a TF201 Prime version but both were updated from revision 206 to 207 as soon as they had the tablet inserted into them with a wifi network connected. I had a TF101 and a TF201 but this unit is fantastic from my standpoint. I can only imagine how it will perform once Jelly Bean is loaded onto it.
Only problem I have with my infinity is the browsing, but I expect that will be fixed directly. Other than that my device is good to go.
Loving mine as well, netflix works great and the only problem I've noticed is that sometimes I fail to press the h key. Great otherwise, tablet talk works great for it as well. Got a neoprene (roocase) case for it which works great
MovingZen said:
Only problem I have with my infinity is the browsing, but I expect that will be fixed directly. Other than that my device is good to go.
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Chrome as been wonderful for me, and it renders everything great - havent even noticed im in android tbh
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Have infinity for about a month.
No problems so far.

[Q] Would you buy Asus Transformer TF700 today or something else with the same money?

Hi,
I want to buy my first tablet and I am looking for something with 9-10 inches screen and sure android based. So far I decided that the Asus Transformer TF700 is the answer for me (the 32 GB version) I am wondering whether there are other potential good tablets with the same price tag or this is the best one can get in this price range.
Thanks.
Right now I would wait if I could reconsider. See if nexus coming with a bigger tablet.
This isn't a horrible tablet yet there are serious issues and Asus seems like neglected us
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legolas.w said:
Hi,
I want to buy my first tablet and I am looking for something with 9-10 inches screen and sure android based. So far I decided that the Asus Transformer TF700 is the answer for me (the 32 GB version) I am wondering whether there are other potential good tablets with the same price tag or this is the best one can get in this price range.
Thanks.
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I would buy it again. We've got some great ICS and Jelly Bean custom roms (some are a work in process, but almost there--good enough to be my daily driver) and the official JB update is coming soon. I guess ASUS quality assurance leaves something to be desired, but my tablet and dock are great and I'm very happy with the Infinity.
2 weeks in to owning it and i would buy it again. I have not noticed any physical problems with my device.
I kinda wish i would have tried a 7" so that it was easier to carry around at times. I still think that I would want to have this device in the end. I love the I/O connections(kinda slow) but very helpful when I am shooting video with a bunch of GoPros outdoors. Now i don't have a carry a full sized laptop just to manage the files.
Sadly, I returned my third TF700 back to Amazon yesterday. Between the loosely mounted screen, the poor wifi reception (despite being a few feet from the router) and the multiple-times-per-day reboots due to icon disappearances and crashes, I couldn't justify keeping it.
With that said, I have every intention of buying it again once JB is officially released for it. The tablet display is gorgeous and I love the overall weight and form factor. I could have lived with the slight display mounting issue but I couldn't get around how laggy and crash-prone it was.
I have JB on my Galaxy Nexus and the performance is stellar and given what I've read from TF700 owners who have added a custom JB ROM to their tablets, I am confident that once an official ASUS build is released, most/all of the software problems will be resolved. Right?
Ehhh...
I'd buy again.
Probably try to get a champagne one and 64gb...of course the money would be more.
I really want to get another Acer A700 because the price tag on that tab is steadily dropping.
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Sadly, I returned my third TF700 back to Amazon yesterday. Between the loosely mounted screen, the poor wifi reception (despite being a few feet from the router) and the multiple-times-per-day reboots due to icon disappearances and crashes, I couldn't justify keeping it.
With that said, I have every intention of buying it again once JB is officially released for it. The tablet display is gorgeous and I love the overall weight and form factor. I could have lived with the slight display mounting issue but I couldn't get around how laggy and crash-prone it was.
I have JB on my Galaxy Nexus and the performance is stellar and given what I've read from TF700 owners who have added a custom JB ROM to their tablets, I am confident that once an official ASUS build is released, most/all of the software problems will be resolved. Right?
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It's looking good. We're just at the beginning of that road, but there's a lot that can be done. Better luck next time!
As it stands right now, I suggest you should hold on to your money, Asus tf700 is a big disappointment for me. I was so excited about this table, and now NO ONE in my family wants to use it. The only thing good about this table is the high resolution screen, but maybe this's the issue, the O/S is not optimized for this kind of resolution? who knows? Anyway If you really like this table, wait until they released Jelly Been and check back to this forum to see it indeed Jelly Bean will addressed all the issues. Don't listen to the people that claimed they love their tables, maybe a few out there claimed that have a perfect one? but the odds will go against you. Not worth 600$ the way it works right now.
I'd buy again -- love the connectivity, love the screen -- lots of storage space. Furthermore, I have few issues with mine, and the keyboard dock is the absolute hammer for me -- typing and an extra battery. Seals the deal!
I love it, and would still buy it
I would still buy it also.
There are only four things that annoy me so far:
- It takes a few seconds for the keyboard to initialize, so you have to wait a few seconds with enter the code
- Tegra 3 seems to have a little strugle with handling 1920x1200, especially compared with CM10 (JB) on my Galaxy S2
- Android interface, especially in 3rd party apps is not yet tailored to use with a keyboard
- USB and SD going in to sleep together with the system, so I cannot charge my phone via micro-USB and it has to re-initialize SD every time (I like to have a setting for this)
Judging on what an improvement going from ICS to JB (CM9 --> CM10) made for my SGS2 I expect most of these issues to be resolved in the future with updated software, so I'm not woried.
What I absolutely love:
- The size as a small laptop and the detachable 'screen', and using the touchscreen (it draws attention when commuting in the train ), the aways-on just like a phone
- That it doesn't get hot - at all (unlike my Galaxy S2)
- Brightness of the screen, and it's resolution
- The good battery life when used in conjuction with the dock (which is how I use it 95% of the time)
I really don't like saying this because I have had very good results with Asus products I have purchased over the years. I would, buy a Samsung or a Toshiba. I am thinking about returning it again and just doing this and having it over with once and for all. I know they aren't as nice as the Asus but I sit here everyday and watch my wife do everything SHE wants to do on her Toshiba AT105-T1032 while she simultaneously laughs at me plodding along on my quad core super tablet. Opps, gotta go now she wants to see who's will boot up first from power off. I loose everytime, man I'm getting tired of doing the dishes every night
rikc said:
There are only four things that annoy me so far:
- It takes a few seconds for the keyboard to initialize, so you have to wait a few seconds with enter the code
- Tegra 3 seems to have a little strugle with handling 1920x1200, especially compared with CM10 (JB) on my Galaxy S2
- Android interface, especially in 3rd party apps is not yet tailored to use with a keyboard
- USB and SD going in to sleep together with the system, so I cannot charge my phone via micro-USB and it has to re-initialize SD every time (I like to have a setting for this)
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FYI - there is a "solution" to problems 1 & 4: If you want to be able to use the keyboard instantly after turning in on and keep your USB port on the dock active when the TF700 is in standby, you can do that by disabling the "Mobile Dock Battery Saving" mode in Settings->Asus customized settings. Just make sure you back out of the settings screen in order to make the setting "take effect". This will also allow you to wake your TF700 with the keyboard dock (instead of using the power button).
The downside is that your TF700 will never enter "deep sleep", so your battery will drain faster in standby mode...
I just tested this and was able to charge my Nexus 7 from from TF700, even in standby mode.
So, there already is a setting for this....
Regarding the keyboard, I've yet to have any issues with the keyboard in third party apps - could you please elaborate?
Hope this helps.
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I love my infinity, the keyboard dock is just what i wanted
The IO issues of tegra3, poor Asus customer support, Bad warrenty coverage (everything is CID), and high fail rate make me sad tho...
Would i buy another one? Not likely. I'd prolly stick with the galaxy tab 2, Samsung may not update as quickly howeverits very easy to flash custom kernels and roms and loooots of options there.
If only we could get the Asus tablet with Samsung level QA and workmanship. Lots of people bash how "plastic" Sammy devices feel but i have yet to have one fall apart on me
Yeah, I think that Asus was more concerned with form over function with the TF700 - they were so worried about being the thinnest and lightest tablet (along with being nice looking) that they were just too hard to actually build!
We'll see how things go in the future, especially with Jelly Bean, but I just get the feeling that the TF700 isn't going to stand the test of time. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
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Had my TF700 64gb 5 weeks and yes would buy again, very good screen as I use outdoors mostly in very bright light 7inch would just not be big enough for me. Had the occassional reboot but so much better with a cold reboot once a week thanks to the advice on this forum.
No loose screen or noticable light bleed, wifi connection in comparison with my Samsung Gio is just as good if not a little better.
I did not buy the model with the keyboard dock as it was not available at the time of purchase and still a little nervouse about getting one due to the screen crack issue but have invested in the Anker Archos3 battery which is great if you are out for a full day and need that extra bit of battery power.
This is my first tablet but have used an android phone before, did not want to go down the Apple route seems to be more of a fashionable item to buy going back to the ipod days and that sort of thing always puts me off.
There are always going to be problems with an early adoption of any device so far I am a happy user.
jtrosky said:
FYI - there is a "solution" to problems 1 & 4: If you want to be able to use the keyboard instantly after turning in on and keep your USB port on the dock active when the TF700 is in standby, you can do that by disabling the "Mobile Dock Battery Saving" mode in Settings->Asus customized settings. Just make sure you back out of the settings screen in order to make the setting "take effect". This will also allow you to wake your TF700 with the keyboard dock (instead of using the power button).
The downside is that your TF700 will never enter "deep sleep", so your battery will drain faster in standby mode...
I just tested this and was able to charge my Nexus 7 from from TF700, even in standby mode.
So, there already is a setting for this....
Regarding the keyboard, I've yet to have any issues with the keyboard in third party apps - could you please elaborate?
Hope this helps.
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Actually that was one of the first things I did Because I use my tranformer as a PC replacement. I didn't want to push the unlock button every time. The SD-card still powers off in this mode when the screen is of and there is the delay when typing in in a password or code from the keyboard.
I've btw done a lot of optimizing by now on the stock rom -for which you need root access - Disabled a great bunch of programs, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1897099. Also I now disabled some more programs, replaced the stock launcher with a lightweight alternative (Holo launcher HD), and replaced all media related programs (Gallery, Google Play Music, Videoplayer) with lightweight alternatives (Quickgallery, Clean player, BSplayer which serves as a youtube substitute as well). This allows you to disable the media storage process alltogether. This appears to take a great load of the Infinity's shoulders and it now is starting the feel and behave like a state-of-the-art PC system in terms of speed and input response BTW Office Suite let's you use the cursor keys and shift keys in it's spreadsheet editor and is not laggy unlike it's competitors when using this input method (Quickoffice, for which I still had a licence and Polaris which is preinstalled). Also Dolphin Browser beta is not laggy when typing from the keyboard like Firefox Beta, next to that it allows you to use the scroll wheel on a external mouse and seems to perform better on a optimized system than FF beta (which was my prefered solution when I still had my system less optimized).
rikc said:
Actually that was one of the first things I did Because I use my tranformer as a PC replacement. I didn't want to push the unlock button every time. The SD-card still powers off in this mode when the screen is of and there is the delay when typing in in a password or code from the keyboard.
I've btw done a lot of optimizing by now on the stock rom -for which you need root access - Disabled a great bunch of programs, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1897099. Also I now disabled some more programs, replaced the stock launcher with a lightweight alternative (Holo launcher HD), and replaced all media related programs (Gallery, Google Play Music, Videoplayer) with lightweight alternatives (Quickgallery, Clean player, BSplayer which serves as a youtube substitute as well). This allows you to disable the media storage process alltogether. This appears to take a great load of the Infinity's shoulders and it now is starting the feel and behave like a state-of-the-art PC system in terms of speed and input response BTW Office Suite let's you use the cursor keys and shift keys in it's spreadsheet editor and is not laggy unlike it's competitors when using this input method (Quickoffice, for which I still had a licence and Polaris which is preinstalled). Also Dolphin Browser beta is not laggy when typing from the keyboard like Firefox Beta, next to that it allows you to use the scroll wheel on a external mouse and seems to perform better on a optimized system than FF beta (which was my prefered solution when I still had my system less optimized).
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Hmm, I'm a little confused now - the OP stated that your USB port won't charge your phone, yet you say that you have already disabled the "Mobile Dock Power Save Mode"? Or are you saying that you disabled that *after* posting the original post? Like I said, even in standby, I can still charge USB devices with that mode disabled...
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jtrosky said:
Hmm, I'm a little confused now - the OP stated that your USB port won't charge your phone, yet you say that you have already disabled the "Mobile Dock Power Save Mode"? Or are you saying that you disabled that *after* posting the original post? Like I said, even in standby, I can still charge USB devices with that mode disabled...
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In my situation:
- Screen on: It charges my phone over microusb
- Screen of: nope
Also a sd-card in the docking station is remounted every time the screen goes on.
Mobile battery switching mode is de-selected.
When it's enabled the keyboard can also not wake the tablet, have to use the power button on the tablet itself then.
rikc said:
In my situation:
- Screen on: It charges my phone over microusb
- Screen of: nope
Also a sd-card in the docking station is remounted every time the screen goes on.
Mobile battery switching mode is de-selected.
When it's enabled the keyboard can also not wake the tablet, have to use the power button on the tablet itself then.
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Strange - that's how mine acted before disabling the mobile dock battery saving mode, but after disabling it,my tablet will continue to change my devices even when screen is off and I can wake my table my simply touching the trackpad (even if it's disabled). You may want to try enabling and re-disabling the battery saving mode, making sure to exit setting after each change....
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Here's all the things that I have not had happen to my Infinity. ;)

Since upgrading to JB and then moving to CleanRom
1. I've never had a random reboot
2. I've never had a sleep of death
3. I've never had an app not responding browser error
4. I've never had an app crash to desktop
5. I don't have any lags in you tube or other video apps
6. I've never had the battery drain unexpectedly
7. I've never had a wifi problem with speed or connectivity
8. I've never had a problem that I couldn't resolve with XDA's help
9. I've never had the games I bought not work as expected
10. I've not once used my laptop in the last month as this device has effectively replaced it.
:good:
Anyone else with me?
So you've never turned it on?
:laugh:
Jest kidding...
That's the way things should be!
Keep it up...
Same for me, except I'm not unlocked or rooted. ;–)
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I've had mine for about a week, replacing a Prime (just for the hell of it, my Prime actually doesn't have any real problems).
Except for a couple of browser ANRs, and none in quite a few days, I have had none of those problems. It's really a solid tablet, and does improve upon the Prime in a few ways (we all know which ones by now, I'm sure). Tiny bit of screen movement on the bottom left, tiny bit of light bleed that I only ever notice when booting, but otherwise perfect.
Agree, every since I upgraded to JB and lost my root (like a noob) I have had better performance out of it. It might just be what I have on it now but its running smoothly.
Does GPS work on your tablet with CleanROM? I think I will wait for Android 4.2 to reach the tf700 before I unlock it.
I have CleanROM with GPS working as it always has.
Wifi, Blutooth and GPS have never been a problem for me from ICS to today.
Sent from a tablet optimized by CleanROM 2.3
Me too!
I'm rooted and have also not experienced any of these issues.
+1 here as well I've never had any problem. The one and only complaint front my end is the build quality in the dock. If I pick up the tablet with one hand on the dock, it makes a popping sound at the base where the lock is. Not a huge deal I just pop it back non the less a flaw
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Jbb3393 said:
+1 here as well I've never had any problem. The one and only complaint front my end is the build quality in the dock. If I pick up the tablet with one hand on the dock, it makes a popping sound at the base where the lock is. Not a huge deal I just pop it back non the less a flaw
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Yeah, the build quality isn't excellent but it's far from awful. Try buying an 80 dollar, no brand tab from eBay, then try complaining about the Infinity. Mine only has a tiny click up near the volume rocker and down near the charge port. The clicking is barely audible and the screen isn't coming up, so I've been able to disregard it.
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huy_lonewolf said:
Does GPS work on your tablet with CleanROM? I think I will wait for Android 4.2 to reach the tf700 before I unlock it.
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I was putting off unlocking till JB hit. It's here now, but still a bit worried about a $500 paperweight. Might bite the bullet and have fun with some ROM's. I noticed just a few days after OTA JB, it was available to unlocks.
Jbb3393 said:
+1 here as well I've never had any problem. The one and only complaint front my end is the build quality in the dock. If I pick up the tablet with one hand on the dock, it makes a popping sound at the base where the lock is. Not a huge deal I just pop it back non the less a flaw
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Software wise mine has been perfect but I also got the popping noise after a while and it got worse and actually starting popping apart in the top right corner. I ended up returning it and I'm currently waiting on a replacement. Not having the dock makes you realize how much better it makes the TF700 package.
sbdags said:
Since upgrading to JB and then moving to CleanRom
1. I've never had a random reboot
2. I've never had a sleep of death
3. I've never had an app not responding browser error
4. I've never had an app crash to desktop
5. I don't have any lags in you tube or other video apps
6. I've never had the battery drain unexpectedly
7. I've never had a wifi problem with speed or connectivity
8. I've never had a problem that I couldn't resolve with XDA's help
9. I've never had the games I bought not work as expected
10. I've not once used my laptop in the last month as this device has effectively replaced it.
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Anyone else with me?
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Yes. Same.
CleanROM is amazing. I never did a full wipe though so my performance isn't great ... but I didn't want to spend HOURS reinstalling everything.
Joeful said:
Yeah, the build quality isn't excellent but it's far from awful. Try buying an 80 dollar, no brand tab from eBay, then try complaining about the Infinity.
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If you buy an 80 dollar tablet, you get what you pay for. If you shell out 8 times as much, you should also get what you pay for, and for that money I expect a perfect device, not something that is barely acceptable.
_that said:
If you buy an 80 dollar tablet, you get what you pay for. If you shell out 8 times as much, you should also get what you pay for, and for that money I expect a perfect device, not something that is barely acceptable.
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But if you get a device with any major defects, you can just return in. Contrary to what you may have read on XDA, it's unlikely that you'll have to exchange the device more than once or twice in order to get a TF700 that is just fine... I'm quite aware that Asus has QC issues, but there is an easy solution - exchange it! Once you have a good device hardware-wise, just install CleanROM and BAM - you have *the* best Android tablet on the market!
I've been 100% satisfied with my purchase, that's for sure! No device is "perfect"...
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jtrosky said:
Contrary to what you may have read on XDA, it's unlikely that you'll have to exchange the device more than once or twice in order to get a TF700 that is just fine...
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Even a single exchange is too much at this price level. At least my first and only device seems to have no major hardware issues, however I will treat it with special care after reading all the reports of loose screens etc. in this forum.
There are no perfect devices. Especially if the owner is OCD to begin with.
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_that said:
Even a single exchange is too much at this price level. At least my first and only device seems to have no major hardware issues, however I will treat it with special care after reading all the reports of loose screens etc. in this forum.
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As I've said before, even iPads have had similar issues. That's an even higher price point.
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sbdags said:
Since upgrading to JB and then moving to CleanRom
1. I've never had a random reboot
2. I've never had a sleep of death
3. I've never had an app not responding browser error
4. I've never had an app crash to desktop
5. I don't have any lags in you tube or other video apps
6. I've never had the battery drain unexpectedly
7. I've never had a wifi problem with speed or connectivity
8. I've never had a problem that I couldn't resolve with XDA's help
9. I've never had the games I bought not work as expected
10. I've not once used my laptop in the last month as this device has effectively replaced it.
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Anyone else with me?
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i'm with you on 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.
unrooted, still locked, JB.
maybe you should add 11, something like "I've not heard a squeak or a crack from the housing/screen." i'd fail that. after three weeks, my near "perfect" tablet developed a small squeek when pressed along the charging port, and now it is a clipping/cracking sound.
...more than concur!
_that said:
Even a single exchange is too much at this price level. At least my first and only device seems to have no major hardware issues, however I will treat it with special care after reading all the reports of loose screens etc. in this forum.
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Boy this sums it up.
I would have only returned it once and not for exchange.
Would have moved on like I did with the ACER A700.
Liking the TFI, yet I really don't believe I'll return to Asus on the next tablet.
This hit home for me Mr. _that :good:

Things I would like improved in the ASUS Transformer Infinity (TF700T)

So, I've spent a couple of months with the ASUS TF700T and its keyboard dock. Time to rant about things I don't like.
1) Startup time. Cold boot takes more than a minute. This is truly sad when Windows 8 Ultrabooks and Macbooks boot in seconds. Slower processor based android phones also boot faster. Why ASUS? What are you doing in this minute?
2) Critical Bugs. By that I mean glitches that cause the tablet to hang, randomly reboot or randomly shutdown. It's not hot. It's not being used for hours. It just crashes the kernel. It should NOT do that ASUS. I don't need that. Crash the app if you have to, not the whole tablet! Similarly with hot-plugging the dock sometimes.
3) Non-critical Bugs. That refers to little things that don't really affect productivity with the tablet but are driving me (and many others) insane.
a) What is this graphics card driver / whatever else issue that causes the random black lines to flicker on the screen at random intervals? What are these lines? ASUS, you can definitely reproduce this. This is not found on any other android device that I own (Samsung and HTC phones and tablets mainly). I realise it may not be a big deal (stuff does not crash at least), but this is a £500 tablet. This should not be an issue. Really.
b) What is wrong with the keyboard driver? Why do I need an independent app (External Keyboard Helper) to enjoy my hardware keyboard dock that you charge £100? How can this guy make such a great app, with no issues with dead keys (you know what I mean - greek 'tonos' or accent), and you, ASUS, after breaking this functionality on Jelly Bean, can't find a fix? Buy his keyboard and bundle it with your tablets, that's my answer. Give up on this ridiculous "ASUS Keyboard". It's a joke needing a separate keyboard for every language, particularly one that does not work properly. Use Google's standard. Use Hacker's Keyboard from the market (free!). Use Swype. Whatever.
4) Missing features. You give us a tablet with a hardware keyboard having a USB slot. What do people use USB for? No, it's not to plug in a keyboard. It's probably not to plug in a mouse either. External storage maybe, but less so in this cloud-ridden world where everything is on Dropbox.
Charging their phones is what they will use it for. Their iPhones, Androids and whatever. Why can't we do that with the tablet screen off ASUS? Is Apple smarter and they can code the Macbook Air circuitry better? Is this not something people want? I may not need 18h of tablet time - just a charge for my phone. Why should I need to keep the tablet on for that?
5) A 3G / 4G / whatever model, priced competitively. I know I can tether. I'd like to save myself the trouble, and my phone's battery since it is so damn difficult to charge with the built in dock anyway. It's not that hard, it will let carriers offer your tablet as a bundle, it will make you money. The iPad does it, Samsung does it. The only tablets that don't do it are Amazon's - and there are 3G Kindles out there.
5 things. Can you fix them?
Note that stuff like "my generation 1 iPad browses and reads email faster" and "X phone / tablet costing half as much is on 4.2.2 already" and "why should I need to void my warranty to install custom ROMs" are left out here. I don't particularly care about these.
I think the TF700T is an amazing feat of engineering. An incredible, sharp screen, a great form factor, a good looking set with the dock keyboard. But I'm sorry, I'm a guy who regularly forks out £600 on tablets or gadgets and my next tablet will be an iPad or a Samsung or a Kindle. It's just not worth it. I have no patience anymore, because I know that I can get my work done more efficiently with a 3rd party external keyboard and any other tablet. Heck, I can even get a phone, a keyboard and a HDMI screen for the money, and even run Ubuntu more stably.
PS: I am posting this on every android forum I know, just in case find a solution for some of these problems...
This has to be the worst post i have ever seen on the tf700 thread...
ronniereiff said:
This has to be the worst post i have ever seen on the tf700 thread...
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Agreed. I did however respond to it when posted in Transformer Forums but this person never replied to anything that people have commented on it.
Tylor
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giatros said:
So, I've spent a couple of months with the ASUS TF700T and its keyboard dock. Time to rant about things I don't like.
1) Startup time. Cold boot takes more than a minute. This is truly sad when Windows 8 Ultrabooks and Macbooks boot in seconds. Slower processor based android phones also boot faster. Why ASUS? What are you doing in this minute?
2) Critical Bugs. By that I mean glitches that cause the tablet to hang, randomly reboot or randomly shutdown. It's not hot. It's not being used for hours. It just crashes the kernel. It should NOT do that ASUS. I don't need that. Crash the app if you have to, not the whole tablet! Similarly with hot-plugging the dock sometimes.
3) Non-critical Bugs. That refers to little things that don't really affect productivity with the tablet but are driving me (and many others) insane.
a) What is this graphics card driver / whatever else issue that causes the random black lines to flicker on the screen at random intervals? What are these lines? ASUS, you can definitely reproduce this. This is not found on any other android device that I own (Samsung and HTC phones and tablets mainly). I realise it may not be a big deal (stuff does not crash at least), but this is a £500 tablet. This should not be an issue. Really.
b) What is wrong with the keyboard driver? Why do I need an independent app (External Keyboard Helper) to enjoy my hardware keyboard dock that you charge £100? How can this guy make such a great app, with no issues with dead keys (you know what I mean - greek 'tonos' or accent), and you, ASUS, after breaking this functionality on Jelly Bean, can't find a fix? Buy his keyboard and bundle it with your tablets, that's my answer. Give up on this ridiculous "ASUS Keyboard". It's a joke needing a separate keyboard for every language, particularly one that does not work properly. Use Google's standard. Use Hacker's Keyboard from the market (free!). Use Swype. Whatever.
4) Missing features. You give us a tablet with a hardware keyboard having a USB slot. What do people use USB for? No, it's not to plug in a keyboard. It's probably not to plug in a mouse either. External storage maybe, but less so in this cloud-ridden world where everything is on Dropbox.
Charging their phones is what they will use it for. Their iPhones, Androids and whatever. Why can't we do that with the tablet screen off ASUS? Is Apple smarter and they can code the Macbook Air circuitry better? Is this not something people want? I may not need 18h of tablet time - just a charge for my phone. Why should I need to keep the tablet on for that?
5) A 3G / 4G / whatever model, priced competitively. I know I can tether. I'd like to save myself the trouble, and my phone's battery since it is so damn difficult to charge with the built in dock anyway. It's not that hard, it will let carriers offer your tablet as a bundle, it will make you money. The iPad does it, Samsung does it. The only tablets that don't do it are Amazon's - and there are 3G Kindles out there.
5 things. Can you fix them?
Note that stuff like "my generation 1 iPad browses and reads email faster" and "X phone / tablet costing half as much is on 4.2.2 already" and "why should I need to void my warranty to install custom ROMs" are left out here. I don't particularly care about these.
I think the TF700T is an amazing feat of engineering. An incredible, sharp screen, a great form factor, a good looking set with the dock keyboard. But I'm sorry, I'm a guy who regularly forks out £600 on tablets or gadgets and my next tablet will be an iPad or a Samsung or a Kindle. It's just not worth it. I have no patience anymore, because I know that I can get my work done more efficiently with a 3rd party external keyboard and any other tablet. Heck, I can even get a phone, a keyboard and a HDMI screen for the money, and even run Ubuntu more stably.
PS: I am posting this on every android forum I know, just in case find a solution for some of these problems...
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1)startup time : i never shutdown my tab unless thete is no battery so i use the startup very few times and my lifespan is long enough (around 80 years) to wait for 1mn for a non-critical device to start
2)critical bugs : i don't have any. My tab nearly never crash (4 times since august). Maybe you have a broken tab (use your warranty to change it) or maybe you installed bad-quality applications and apply some customization and parameters not very clever...
3)non-critical bugs : i have some but they don't drive me insane and most of them are app related, not from the tab or asus. And anyway remember that nothing perfect exists and you also are doing mistakes in your own job...
4)missing features : you complain that there is a usb port ? It's one of the best reason to buy that tab ! You say the cloub is here but people don't alluse the cloud and on it the capacity is small (few Gb while my external disk has 1 Tb). And you can't put your photo to the cloud without a computer like that tab to connect your camera and extract your photos.
5)3G/4G : a 3G model exist TF700TG. 4G does not exist but it's normal as 4G was not ready when that tab was designed and put to stores. And at that time, there was NO tab with 4G (even the ipad, the 4G version arrived few months later)
PS : You post on every forum ? I call that spam and i know that will not answer to most of all the answers you will get in all these forums. Question : why don't you post that to world-wide newspapers, maybe the UN could decide of resolution against asus to ask them to meet your expectations ?
Please buy an ipad or whatever you prefer and don't bother us anymore with your poor man complains.
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Wait did he just criticse the tablet for having a USB port. I use the USB for external storage...
Thanks for all your comments, some have been helpful.
I realise that I wasn't very clear on what I said about the USB port. I really like it. I think it should be there. I have adapters for my Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 and my Galaxy Note, (MHL) which I mainly use to connect USB keyboards or thumb drives, or SD readers.
The rant is that there is no constant power to the USB. When the tablet screen locks, USB loses power: thus you can't charge a phone for 10 minutes in your backpack when walking. This is possible with a MacBook Air (that I end up carrying around for this purpose).
Startup time is important, at least to me. It is a major selling point for Mac OS X and Windows 8. People don't want to wait when their gadgets load, that's what I think. Computers do have sleep mode as well (and sadly, they wake up faster from sleep than the Transformer!!!).
I have an iPad as well, generation 1, jailbroken, loaded with 64GB of stuff. The OS must have crashed once or twice in years. Heck, I've even managed to crash a Kindle 3 once in 3 years. I can live with that. But the TF crashes at least once a week. I believe that not that many people experience this issue, so I will RMA mine and hope for the best.
I was not aware there is a 3G version. I have not seen it on sale anywhere. After a lot of googling I realised it's the TF700KL (and it's 4G LTE, which is nice).
Thanks again and sorry if this did not apply to you.
What are you doing to crash it. Even on stock 4.2 I dont remember it crashing?
giatros said:
The rant is that there is no constant power to the USB. When the tablet screen locks, USB loses power: thus you can't charge a phone for 10 minutes in your backpack when walking. This is possible with a MacBook Air (that I end up carrying around for this purpose).
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You are carrying around a MacBook Air only to charge your phone?
giatros said:
Startup time is important, at least to me. It is a major selling point for Mac OS X and Windows 8. People don't want to wait when their gadgets load, that's what I think. Computers do have sleep mode as well (and sadly, they wake up faster from sleep than the Transformer!!!).
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The only time when startup time is important for me is after it crashed again. Otherwise I leave the tablet in standby mode, and it wakes up in a second whenever I need it.
I agree that all these issues exist and are annoying more or less, but you won't ever find a perfect device - all have their quirks. For me, the only real defect from your 5 points is that it really crashes from time to time.
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You are carrying around a MacBook Air only to charge your phone?
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It does work
Standalone batteries are less efficient (plus I forget to charge them)
I have found myself carrying an iPad to tether everything else to sometimes...
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The only time when startup time is important for me is after it crashed again. Otherwise I leave the tablet in standby mode, and it wakes up in a second whenever I need it.
I agree that all these issues exist and are annoying more or less, but you won't ever find a perfect device - all have their quirks. For me, the only real defect from your 5 points is that it really crashes from time to time.
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Yes, crashing is the worst. Writing something and losing it is not nice. Even if it's just a paragraph, it's a waste of time.
I have hopes for a perfect device! One that does what I need and is stable enough. I-devices work, most android phones work, Macs work, PCs work, kindles work - why should this be different?
giatros said:
It does work
Standalone batteries are less efficient (plus I forget to charge them)
I have found myself carrying an iPad to tether everything else to sometimes...
Yes, crashing is the worst. Writing something and losing it is not nice. Even if it's just a paragraph, it's a waste of time.
I have hopes for a perfect device! One that does what I need and is stable enough. I-devices work, most android phones work, Macs work, PCs work, kindles work - why should this be different?
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My tablet only crashes when trying to download torrents. If I dont attempt to download torrents, then I dont have any crashes. Though the beta version of CROMIX I had a game crash once but that is expected on beta and hasnt crashed since.
Tylor
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My tab has crashed a very few times and each time it was while playing a game that was heavely using the GPU/CPU. Maybe your tab has a hardware defect but before sending it back with rma, try a factory reset wich will put back your tab to original configuration (it means you loose your data if you don't save them elsewhere).
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A factory reset is good, but it can ALSO be a system file corrupted, in which I suggest you factory reset, reflash 4.2.1, then another factory reset.
Tylor
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While I do not agree with the OP totally but at least for some parts.
What I don't understand is that people keep defending ASUS as if they are not to blame.
Replies like "This is the worst post ever" I assume you are talking about your own post there.
The black lines are a complete no go for me, if you can't make a HD screen to work put in a low resolution screen, I would have skipped it and maybe be even happy with another tablet. Credits for apple's ipad for that, it is possible guys.
The keyboards menu button is only when your in an app, why is that? Why not in a launcher, where you use menu the most?
And then all these benchmarks, twice as fast as a htc one x, give me a break. My one x really blows away my TF700, it's about performance during the day, not just some numbers.
Installing a rom takes 3 times as long as on my one x...
Maybe it is because most asus fan people have an older smartphone with lower specs but owning a one x does not make things better for the infinity. ;0
The reason for me to keep it is because I bought it in NY for $600 that's about 430 euro incl. keyboard.
If I would have bought it here in Holland it would have been 600+ euro and I wouldn't accept this product as it is.
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J_Dutch said:
While I do not agree with the OP totally but at least for some parts.
What I don't understand is that people keep defending ASUS as if they are not to blame.
Replies like "This is the worst post ever" I assume you are talking about your own post there.
The black lines are a complete no go for me, if you can't make a HD screen to work put in a low resolution screen, I would have skipped it and maybe be even happy with another tablet. Credits for apple's ipad for that, it is possible guys.
The keyboards menu button is only when your in an app, why is that? Why not in a launcher, where you use menu the most?
And then all these benchmarks, twice as fast as a htc one x, give me a break. My one x really blows away my TF700, it's about performance during the day, not just some numbers.
Installing a rom takes 3 times as long as on my one x...
Maybe it is because most asus fan people have an older smartphone with lower specs but owning a one x does not make things better for the infinity. ;0
The reason for me to keep it is because I bought it in NY for $600 that's about 430 euro incl. keyboard.
If I would have bought it here in Holland it would have been 600+ euro and I wouldn't accept this product as it is.
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The TF700 out of the box is junk which is indeed only my personal preference. Many people have the stock device and are very happy with it. I also suggest people who compare a tablet with a keyboard to another, then type papers of a phone or a regular tablet without a keyboard and see how long it takes you. It is indeed ASUS fault for their bloated ROM, but if you use CromiX or Cyanogen Mod, It will blow any stock device out of the water. The black lines are no big deal, and dont occur when watching movies. I only see that when using Tapatalk or browsing, and it is rare. If you want a device out of the box go for a different device. The TF700 has gotten better with 4.2.1 as it fixed a lot typing application lag and such, but still dont compare to a un-bloated and tweaked ROM.
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Tylorw1 said:
The TF700 out of the box is junk which is indeed only my personal preference. Many people have the stock device and are very happy with it. I also suggest people who compare a tablet with a keyboard to another, then type papers of a phone or a regular tablet without a keyboard and see how long it takes you. It is indeed ASUS fault for their bloated ROM, but if you use CromiX or Cyanogen Mod, It will blow any stock device out of the water. The black lines are no big deal, and dont occur when watching movies. I only see that when using Tapatalk or browsing, and it is rare. If you want a device out of the box go for a different device. The TF700 has gotten better with 4.2.1 as it fixed a lot typing application lag and such, but still dont compare to a un-bloated and tweaked ROM.
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You are right about that, I have tweaked my One X. But on stock sense it's not far behind the tweaked Infinity.
And let's not forget the One X is even more expensive for me, so you get a lot of hardware for the money(at least what I paid for it)
The concept is brilliant, it's more that I'm slightly dissapointed cause if performance was wat is expected this device would have been the best ever, and I'm sure it could have been if asus at least would have done better I/O performance. But then again, will there ever be a perfect device?
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The thing is, I don't think the speed should be an issue. I don't play that many games (certainly not power-hungry ones), I don't download torrents on the TF700T.
I have been flashing custom ROMs on devices since my HTC Prophet - and custom ROMs are usually less stable than the factory ROM (they are faster and with more eye-candy). Why this is not the case here I don't know.
I like the tablet to read papers and books (mainly PDF, some ePub), this is why I wanted the high resolution screen.
Screen tearing when reading is distracting and very disappointing.
I try to write papers on the TF700T. I write some forum posts. But the problems there are
1) Can't use a reference manager - there is no cite as you write, or at least I haven't found one
2) Random crashing or flushing the app from memory causes loss of data
3) When I want to write in Greek, I HAVE to use a non-ASUS keyboard app as the ASUS keyboard does not let you put accents in since 4.2.1
The touchscreen is great for reading stuff, underlining etc. But this tablet is problematic; may be just my device (I hope). It certainly feels like a beta product.
I wanted to reinstall the OS as well, however ASUS seems to have pulled the 10.6.1.14.4 from their download site (I get file not found for http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePAD/TF700T/TF700T_WW_epaduser_V1061144UpdateLauncher.zip )
I just wanted to say this:
There is a very noticeable issue with the Tegra 3's 4+1 processor setup that some things (recovery for example) do not handle too well and end up using that power saver core as the main core. For example, in TWRP, on my Droid RAZR the little slider to confirm something is very liquid, as is the loading bar's animation, but on the TF700T, it lags immensely.
That is the one issue I have with it. As far as Quadrant scores or benchmarks, mine have been all over the place even on CM10.1. It doesn't matter that on CROMI it can get a 10,000 if you can't switch between two apps in less than 10 seconds.
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