HTC canceled ICS for Desire... - HTC Inspire 4G

http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
Does this mean no ICS for Inspire?

FatGrover said:
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
Does this mean no ICS for Inspire?
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It was never coming for the inspire anyway
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I meant mostly because most ICS roms for Inspire were waiting for ics kernel of desire hd...

It doesn't matter that it was never coming for the Inspire specifically. Any ICS update for the Desire HD can be easily ported and help all Inspire owners. We should be angry about this, not only Desire HD owners.
It means no official ICS. There are already several unofficial AOSP ICS ROMs and a few Desire V ICS ports.

I wont ever own another HTC product. Promise ics to DHD and then say the customer quality is what they are concerned about. Yet the desire c is half our phone and is getting it >.<
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I agree, I have owned a number of HTC products in the past and this is reinforcing my jumping ship to other manufacturers.

amf66 said:
It doesn't matter that it was never coming for the Inspire specifically. Any ICS update for the Desire HD can be easily ported and help all Inspire owners. We should be angry about this, not only Desire HD owners.
It means no official ICS. There are already several unofficial AOSP ICS ROMs and a few Desire V ICS ports.
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I know that, he never specified whether he was talking about custom roms or not
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Guys let me let you in on a little secret. All OEM are the same when it comes to this. Mainly here in the states where the carriers control the updates. With the way hardware and Android are updating the best you can hope for is a 6 month period where the device may get an update. After that all bets are off. If updates are important to you then get a Nexus and be done with it. Its not like most dont run a AOSP based rom anyway so why pay all the extra for the OEM stuff. No need to be all upset about it.

zelendel said:
Guys let me let you in on a little secret. All OEM are the same when it comes to this. Mainly here in the states where the carriers control the updates. With the way hardware and Android are updating the best you can hope for is a 6 month period where the device may get an update. After that all bets are off. If updates are important to you then get a Nexus and be done with it. Its not like most dont run a AOSP based rom anyway so why pay all the extra for the OEM stuff. No need to be all upset about it.
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Nexus FTW
sent from my Galaxy Nexus running official Jelly Bean!!!!

that sucks ..
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Sucks
Sucks big time, bye HTC, Hello Nexus

Adeelx said:
Sucks big time, by HTC, Hello Nexus
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[bye] HTC. Hello Galaxy Note 2.
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It is what it is
There is nothing we can do about HTC cancelling the update to DHD except complain to HTC. If you want the best possibility of updates then a Google Nexus phone is the way to go (as already mentioned). Remember that it is probably not ICS specifically that created performance issues, but rather the combination of ICS and whatever version of a newer Sense (Rosie) HTC was planning. I have experienced that the phone handles AOSP ICS versions just fine, but Sense 3.0 and later versions paired with ICS would probably be a drag on this phone. Remember that when the Inspire came out, other manufacturers were already utilizing dual core technology so the phone was already behind the times upon release.

Right. Some of the custom ICS ROMs run very smoothly. It must be Sense that is the problem. Too bad, really. I intend to keep running with the Redemption ICS ROM on the Inspire until Google announces the next Nexus later this year and then I will jump ship. I was tempted, especially with JB, to buy a GSM GN but given that by October or November we might have some new Nexus hardware announced, I just need to be patient.

luciano.chavez said:
Right. Some of the custom ICS ROMs run very smoothly. It must be Sense that is the problem. Too bad, really. I intend to keep running with the Redemption ICS ROM on the Inspire until Google announces the next Nexus later this year and then I will jump ship. I was tempted, especially with JB, to buy a GSM GN but given that by October or November we might have some new Nexus hardware announced, I just need to be patient.
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I have noticed that GB and Sense 3.0 and 3.5 custom ROMs have the occasional lag. I can only imagine what ICS combined with 3.5 (or even 4.0) would do to the usability. I have tried a couple of AOSP based ICS roms and they work well (except for the bugs such as camera issues). I have had better experiences in regards to performance with CM 7 ROMs than I ever did with the rooted stock rom (with bloatware removed of course). I will be buying a new Nexus myself once a newer version is released. I will use my contract renewal to get my wife a new phone every year (keeps her quiet about cheap gifts at Christmas and birthdays which are less than a month apart) and I get a phone which I know will receive support for a long time.

aybarrap1 said:
I have noticed that GB and Sense 3.0 and 3.5 custom ROMs have the occasional lag. I can only imagine what ICS combined with 3.5 (or even 4.0) would do to the usability. I have tried a couple of AOSP based ICS roms and they work well (except for the bugs such as camera issues). I have had better experiences in regards to performance with CM 7 ROMs than I ever did with the rooted stock rom (with bloatware removed of course). I will be buying a new Nexus myself once a newer version is released. I will use my contract renewal to get my wife a new phone every year (keeps her quiet about cheap gifts at Christmas and birthdays which are less than a month apart) and I get a phone which I know will receive support for a long time.
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AOSPX now has a working video camera. Only 480 l but still works.
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Was a huge HTC fan before I saw this.
Dare I say cough cough... iPhone 5 for my next phone? naaa
But the Samsung Galaxy III sounds like a good choice.
wrenhal said:
AOSPX now has a working video camera. Only 480 l but still works.
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Relax guys. I've realized that even if they don't want us to have it, we will get it as soon as the Desire S or Incredible S gets kernel source for ICS. After that, porting a full Sense 4 or 3.6 ROM is a walk in the park.

Hunt3r.j2 said:
Relax guys. I've realized that even if they don't want us to have it, we will get it as soon as the Desire S or Incredible S gets kernel source for ICS. After that, porting a full Sense 4 or 3.6 ROM is a walk in the park.
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Even then, team virtuous has nearly finished porting a completely working HTC 3.0 kernel. Sense doesn't work on our phones because we don't have the right kernel running under it. Virtuous and Pacha have 2 ROMs that are almost completely working. Camera doesn't work on some phones that have hardware from omnivision (me unfortunately :crying, but if you have Samsung hardware then you're in luck. Some of the other sense 4/2.6 ROMS also work without a hitch if you flash the 3.0 kernel, and a few patches.

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Cyanogenmod on O3D :)

Juhuu
Its a fact: Cyanogen is working on a version for the LG Opitmus 3D.
I am happy and hope that we soon will have a stabil version.
Here an article in german and screenshots with the Cyanogen on O3d
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http://www.areamobile.de/news/19327-screenshots-cyanogenmod-7-wird-auf-htc-sensation-und-lg-optimus-3d-portiert
I actually see no point in putting it on my O3D. We'll get 2.3 soon enough and any mods etc can probably be added like the perfomance patch.
The only reason I put cyanogen on my old phone was because it only went upto 2.1.
I'm sure cyanogen will have a few things that people will want though
projectsome said:
I actually see no point in putting it on my O3D. We'll get 2.3 soon enough and any mods etc can probably be added like the perfomance patch.
The only reason I put cyanogen on my old phone was because it only went upto 2.1.
I'm sure cyanogen will have a few things that people will want though
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wtf... cyanogen has always been the best... speed, better kernel, much crap deleted, more battery
But will it support the 3D stuff?
otacon888 said:
But will it support the 3D stuff?
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For sure! If not, no one will take it
ANd of course: Cyanogen is always the best and the updates for newer android versions are coming faster/earlier...
Battery life, speed, more functions, no problems with root/updates and and and...
All the things that lg does wrong - Cyanogen will do it right... and there are many things (see wish list^^)
I cant wait for it
wooooo cyano the best
typhex said:
wtf... cyanogen has always been the best... speed, better kernel, much crap deleted, more battery
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yes but it can make the phone unstable... I've got it on an old phone and randomly restarts, which is a known issue. you can delete the stuff yourself. it doesn't exactly improve the battery an epic amount now does it....
while it's a great rom, I don't see enough reasons to put it on my O3D.
Kinda excited for this now !!
much love for cyanogen <3
Vanilla Android and future proof. Check! I can get my Ice Cream Sandwich fix! (assuming Cyanogen will continue into Ice Cream Sandwich, which it surely will)
typhex said:
wtf... cyanogen has always been the best... speed, better kernel, much crap deleted, more battery
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Fully agreed! That's the reason why we are all here!
Bet I had 7 Andriod phones so far ranging from Milestone, Galaxy S, Desire, Desire HD, Optimus X2, GS2 and now this and I can't say I have ever used one of his roms.
as far as i can tell from the experiments i've done with removing stuff from the system to see what works and what doesnt all the 3d stuff integrated into the stock rom comes from distinct apps that can be added and removed at will. beyond that it's just a case of integrating drivers for the screen that will be the part that needs work so i have no doubt that cyanogen will work like it does on every other phone on this one but with the added fun of having 3d capability.
Cyanogen
great and best info. The LX2 was so slow with stock rom and cyanogen made it work great
I hope so for the 3d too
Jabbypants said:
Bet I had 7 Andriod phones so far ranging from Milestone, Galaxy S, Desire, Desire HD, Optimus X2, GS2 and now this and I can't say I have ever used one of his roms.
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Well as fast as you seem to be switching phones I can't really se how you even could have? the O2X is fairly new (what 5-6 months?) and CM7 is still under development for that one, the GS2 is what at a maximum 3 months old if you got it on the release day? Samsung btw sent a GS2 to Cyanogen in the hopes that he would get CM on it, CM isn't really a homebrew cut and paste ROM it's more like a off-shoot branch of Android and it takes time for them to make them work with new hardware.
And it's not "one of his ROMs" CM like MUMI and Android Stock is one ROM that works on different phones, there is a major difference
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Many home made cut and paste ROMs are how ever based on CM or Stock or a mix of both and just added and removed apps as they want it, so if you've used a custom ROM for a phone that CM supports it's more than likely that you have used CM only under a different name.
updates
Yes the news what were all hear for really, custom roms. Its shocking how slow LG is with the firmware side of thing., Their flagship phone firmware is like a year old Promises of updates is no good having them is.
wouldnt mind having sense based on evo 3g rom. got inpatient waiting on the evo 3d, next best thing is cfw based on it
Now i hear vodafone is dropping the evo 3d so i made a good call. Delays then patent infringements from apple leads to the customer missing out
It's quite simple i want 2.3.4 for Talk with video and features which can only be used on a Rooted Gingerbread rom. Although i won't use Gingerbread that long because there will be an other ROM which is calles Ice Cream as soon as Cyanogen can put his fingers on it ;-)
Really Love it So waiting for now
+ if cyanogen makes the rom, there will be many more roms following which are based on it, including miui rom. And some other developers will find the suitable ground to make cyanogen based additions to the phone.
Having cyanogen available is always beneficial
Jabbypants said:
Bet I had 7 Andriod phones so far ranging from Milestone, Galaxy S, Desire, Desire HD, Optimus X2, GS2 and now this and I can't say I have ever used one of his roms.
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Ive had numerous android phones over the past few years and have developed for them also and can say that, personally cyanogen roms always screw up down the line and dont bother with them anymore as theyre all the same. i can tell you why they fail too, because of the way they are developed, rather than rewriting all the updated components, he will add to the component. which makes it perform half as well as a component written from scratch to the spec it is.
so for that reason....IM OUT
androidfanboi said:
Ive had numerous android phones over the past few years and have developed for them also and can say that, personally cyanogen roms always screw up down the line and dont bother with them anymore as theyre all the same. i can tell you why they fail too, because of the way they are developed, rather than rewriting all the updated components, he will add to the component. which makes it perform half as well as a component written from scratch to the spec it is.
so for that reason....IM OUT
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If that's you're vission that is all for you. I love the stock approach of Cyanogen with or whitout new programming. Building from scratch asks a lot of time Cyanogen is one off many who try and he's doing quite well for me. So have fun with you're stock device I will wait for Cyanogen to drop LG's software
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any new information about Cyanogenmod ?

HTC say: We're reviewing Ice Cream Sandwich and determining our plans

HTC: We are excited about the latest update for Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, and are currently reviewing its features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. Our goal for Android updates is to give every customer an improved user experience, which means balancing each phone's unique hardware, HTC Sense experience and the Android kernel. While our goal is to upgrade as many of our recent devices as possible, we are committed to maintaining every phone's performance and usability first. Please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans.
Via: Engadget.com
Wait for ICS running on Sensation
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I'm looking forward to what they're gonna do with Sense next, lol. Hopefully the screen grid will be expanded from 4x4 to at least 4x5 or 5x5.
Me too..cant wait!! Please rush htc!!
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I'm not holding my breath. There are several system dumps here. I bet we have an aosp in a week. May be buggy but we'll have it.
I'm already running ROBOTO font from ICS on my Energy ROM for Sensation 4G. So ANYTHING is possible.
Here's a screenie..
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I have a lot more confidence in the hard working indie devs to get us ICS way before HTC gives us anything
ciaphuas said:
I have a lot more confidence in the hard working indie devs to get us ICS way before HTC gives us anything
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AMEN to that brother.
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I only wish they add image and video stabilization in camera..
I really am looking forward for ICS...
I wonder what will they do with the capacitive buttons on the HTC Sensation
Pyrobisqit said:
I really am looking forward for ICS...
I wonder what will they do with the capacitive buttons on the HTC Sensation
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Probably use them instead of the on screen buttons that the nexus uses.
matt
HTC and new OS? meh!
Don't dream before mid-2012
Better support our xda devs to find a dump and resize it
http://www.xda-developers.com/tag/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich/
ciaphuas said:
I have a lot more confidence in the hard working indie devs to get us ICS way before HTC gives us anything
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Here here! I dread to see what they'll do to it.
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Freshly_Snipes said:
I'm not holding my breath. There are several system dumps here. I bet we have an aosp in a week. May be buggy but we'll have it.
I'm already running ROBOTO font from ICS on my Energy ROM for Sensation 4G. So ANYTHING is possible.
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How can we have a AOSP when Google has not even announced if the are going to release the Source code for ICS yet. I mean AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project.
I for one really hope that Google does release the Source and does not treat ICS in the same manner they did Honeycomb. But I think they just did not want Honeycomb ported to phones is why they did not make it open Source. Maybe now that ICS has the features of Honeycomb in it Google will not hold back and not release the Source.
ALL Android OS are open source, they are ''obliged'' to release the sources in the 3 months after releasing it on any device.
HTC took the freedom to release their Desire source to the last week so N1 devs couldnt adapt it too soon, but in general as we saw with GB AOSP Google release the sources pretty quickly...specially when a new iphone is endangering sales
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ALL Android OS are open source, they are ''obliged'' to release the sources in the 3 months after releasing it on any device.
HTC took the freedom to release their Desire source to the last week so N1 devs couldnt adapt it too soon, but in general as we saw with GB AOSP Google release the sources pretty quickly...specially when a new iphone is endangering sales
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It'll be released. But his point was honeycomb never was
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It'll be released. But his point was honeycomb never was
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Yeah that is the exact the point I was trying to make. I am also fairly sure that Google will release the source code for ICS as it is meant for phones and tablets where as Honeycomb was just meant for tablets. But to further my point from my earlier post. Honeycomb source was never released and even the great king the HTC HD2 Leo only got on Honeycomb ROM and it still has a ton of bugs and is not a daily driver ROM. In fact I am not sure if the developer is even still working on the ROm as I have not went to the thread in a good while now. So you see a ROM dump from another device that is running the OS version you want from another device will work to make a port. But ports are mostly buggy at best when first released and also require loads of work by devs. But a AOSP ROM usually works way better and from what I know takes less work from devs to bring to a device.
Can't wait to see what the devs is gonna cook up with ics =)
i think htc should push ICS to sensation and others but without Sense then if htc finish the work in htc Sense 4.0 push new update to sensation and others
-juanito- said:
i think htc should push ICS to sensation and others but without Sense then if htc finish the work in htc Sense 4.0 push new update to sensation and others
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lol, good one. They would never
HTC wont push it out to phones unless they can fully integrate sense into it, thats their hallmark. Otherwise it'd just be another android phone

HTC SENSE 4 Video Preview and Screenshots

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this is quite old news now. but thanks for the effort!
Unfoturnately, we won't see a official release of this on our desires... HTC will be selfish bastards and just release us ICS + Sense 3.6. It's their way to still persuade us to upgrade our phones.
This is like what they did for original Desire owners... they gave them Gingerbread, but still dumped them with the old HTC sense UI
they will save this new Sense for their new 2012 lineup.
dan-fish said:
this is quite old news now. but thanks for the effort!
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Ya i know but few people still doubt about Sense 4. So for them i compiled it.
olyloh6696 said:
Unfoturnately, we won't see a official release of this on our desires... HTC will be selfish bastards and just release us ICS + Sense 3.6. It's their way to still persuade us to upgrade our phones.
This is like what they did for original Desire owners... they gave them Gingerbread, but still dumped them with the old HTC sense UI
they will save this new Sense for their new 2012 lineup.
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Can blame them for that, they are there to do some business. Happy to hear that they will provide update for DS for android 4 with sense 3.6 when samsung denies proper update for galaxy s.
Hopefully some one will port sense 4 for DS.
Really liked the new clock widget and sense 4 ui. Sense 3.6 is a shame
olyloh6696 said:
Unfoturnately, we won't see a official release of this on our desires... HTC will be selfish bastards and just release us ICS + Sense 3.6. It's their way to still persuade us to upgrade our phones.
This is like what they did for original Desire owners... they gave them Gingerbread, but still dumped them with the old HTC sense UI
they will save this new Sense for their new 2012 lineup.
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No need to get so angry oly You never know, we might get Sense 4. If not, i'm satisfied with Sense 3.6, it's not like either one of us will use the stock upgrade A kernel 3.0, and we're on to the first custom ROM with a Sense 4 port.
As far as the Desire is concerned, that device had very low memory. It could hardly take gingerbread with 2.1. After the update, you could install 10 apps, max. Sense 3 would have maxed it out entirely
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olyloh6696 said:
Unfoturnately, we won't see a official release of this on our desires... HTC will be selfish bastards and just release us ICS + Sense 3.6.
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The kernel will be more than enough. I am pretty happy with CM9 or clean Android 4. Google guys made a great job with it.
Actually I think that Sense reached its peak already. I hope that I am wrong though
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Ya i know but few people still doubt about Sense 4. So for them i compiled it.
Can blame them for that, they are there to do some business. Happy to hear that they will provide update for DS for android 4 with sense 3.6 when samsung denies proper update for galaxy s.
Hopefully some one will port sense 4 for DS.
Really liked the new clock widget and sense 4 ui. Sense 3.6 is a shame
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Yeah I suppose... Personally I dislike that new clock! It's so ugly hopefully they still keep the old one!
shrome99 said:
No need to get so angry oly You never know, we might get Sense 4. If not, i'm satisfied with Sense 3.6, it's not like either one of us will use the stock upgrade A kernel 3.0, and we're on to the first custom ROM with a Sense 4 port.
As far as the Desire is concerned, that device had very low memory. It could hardly take gingerbread with 2.1. After the update, you could install 10 apps, max. Sense 3 would have maxed it out entirely
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you have a good point about the Desire actually!
Yeah I won't be using the official upgrade anyway
But its easier to base a ROM on a official release rather than a ported one...
amidabuddha said:
The kernel will be more than enough. I am pretty happy with CM9 or clean Android 4. Google guys made a great job with it.
Actually I think that Sense reached its peak already. I hope that I am wrong though
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I agree with you. The main gain we get from the update is the kernel source, and drivers.
Google has done a good job the UI looks pretty for once!
However, I haven't used ICS as my daily driver yet, so I can't tell from its functionality from Sense.
Personally, I think Sense 2.1 and 3.5 are the best upgrades. They added great functionality to their older parts.
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Sense 4.0 port on Sensation, man its sexy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk5dvE9bT3c&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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olyloh6696 said:
Sense 4.0 port on Sensation, man its sexy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk5dvE9bT3c&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Man that looks awesome!!
Sense 4.0, you have a fan-in-waiting already!
Wow that looks nice. Im using Miui at the minute but i think this will take me back!
Completely off topic and totally unrelated, but i thought you guys might wanna watch this!
It made me laugh real hard!
nice one man... poor iphone user.

Jellybean is Android 4.1 to Debut on Nexus Tablet

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Recently some internal informant had access to a Nexus tablet, and had decided to do a benchmark on it. We have received the result from the benchmark and they are naturally pretty well. The “Google Asus Nexus 7″‘s benchmark were also very informative on the hardware that the tablet includes.
Google’s $199 “Nexus tablet“, appeared online this week in Rightware’s Basemark ES 2.0 Taiji benchmark test. Most of the details revealed in the benchmark match up with what was previous reported. The device will be made by ASUS, feature a 7-inch display with 1280×768 resolution, and use NVIDIA’s quad-core Tegra 3 processor.
What’s new in this benchmark result is the Android version 4.1. Rightware tells us this is the only device they have ever seen to include Android 4.1. The device also featured a software build number JRN51B, which is important because J represents Jelly Bean.
The device also has the model name listed as “Nexus 7″, which could be the final product name.
Some of us had speculated that Jelly Bean would be a major release and become Android 5.0, but this new evidence suggest it will be more of a minor update and be labeled Android 4.1. We reached out to a second source who claims to have seen the Nexus tablet, and they also said it was running Android 4.1.
Details are still limited, but we are told that Android 4.1 will feature a user experience very similar to Amazon’s Kindle Fire. The device will feature multiple home screens that are dedicated to different types of content (music, movies, books, etc).
We are just a month away from Google IO, when this “Nexus tablet” is expected to be revealed, so look for more details to leak over the coming weeks.
Hopefully these benchmarks are from different tablet as I would like to have 9.7-10.1 inch tablet instead of 7-inch which is only a bit larger than Galaxy Nexus
i'll love to have this tablet.. the price fits perfect to my budget.. but i have to say that.. Android it's going way too fast.. i think ICS it's good.. (REALLE good) and if u pull out a new ver. so fast.. you won't let all of your users taste that great SO call it ICS.. If the SO sucks.. i understand.. but it's great.. relax android.. we are just having fun with ics..
Yeah, it's great idea but ...
Now in the GT-I9001 is already 4.0.3 without STABLE camera and we wait ... too long for it. Now ? 4.1 is new challenge for our developers ... and we need to wait another long time for it ...
The thing its not that we wait too long for the devs (not complaining at all) it's just that their going too fast.. that will bring problems to the devs of roms and apps.. not all the apps are ICS compatible.. if they start to doit too quickly will bring problems.. (personal thought)
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Thank god the tablet isn't 16:9. I'm really looking forward to it.
Edit: I spoke way too fast. It is 16:9, with a little added height for the nav bar. Unfortunate really.
TRDuarteH said:
The thing its not that we wait too long for the devs (not complaining at all) it's just that their going too fast.. that will bring problems to the devs of roms and apps.. not all the apps are ICS compatible.. if they start to doit too quickly will bring problems.. (personal thought)
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This is wrong. Apps will be fine with the move to Jellybean. It is just the fact that ICS was such a major upgrade to merge the tablet and mobile OS. That is the reason some apps are weird. And now that you say that, I can't think of an app that is incompatible with my Gnex. Don't expect Jellybean to look different than ICS...people around here have some weird expectations. Google isn't going to completely revamp their software every year...
Of course i don't think google will come up with a major update.. there's not sense at all.. but what i mean is.. is it really necessary?.. in my opinion.. no.. just personal.. i prefer one major update.. than a lot of little updates.. we can be happy 'cause the devs are great.. but.. those who prefer to wait for oficial updates from their manufacturers?. If we (those who try a lot of third party roms) wait some time.. it's nothing compare with the waiting for those who prefer stock roms.. i just know that I want that tablet..
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TRDuarteH said:
Of course i don't think google will come up with a major update.. there's not sense at all.. but what i mean is.. is it really necessary?.. in my opinion.. no.. just personal.. i prefer one major update.. than a lot of little updates.. we can be happy 'cause the devs are great.. but.. those who prefer to wait for oficial updates from their manufacturers?. If we (those who try a lot of third party roms) wait some time.. it's nothing compare with the waiting for those who prefer stock roms.. i just know that I want that tablet..
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Listen. Ice Cream Sandwich has been on 4.0.1, 4.0.2, 4.0.3 and 4.0.4. All Jellybean means is they decide to call it 4.1 instead of say....4.0.8. Most users can't tell what software they are on anyway. My wife's Sensation just got ICS 2 weeks ago in an OTA. She can't tell the difference.
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Listen. Ice Cream Sandwich has been on 4.0.1, 4.0.2, 4.0.3 and 4.0.4. All Jellybean means is they decide to call it 4.1 instead of say....4.0.8. Most users can't tell what software they are on anyway. My wife's Sensation just got ICS 2 weeks ago in an OTA. She can't tell the difference.
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LOLOL
lowandbehold said:
Listen. Ice Cream Sandwich has been on 4.0.1, 4.0.2, 4.0.3 and 4.0.4. All Jellybean means is they decide to call it 4.1 instead of say....4.0.8. Most users can't tell what software they are on anyway. My wife's Sensation just got ICS 2 weeks ago in an OTA. She can't tell the difference.
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Can't agree with you.. the way all the numbers are put on the codenames.. or versions (call it the way you wan it) every one of those have their explanation.. it's not that simple.. Google won't call it Jelly Beam just because they don't want to keep updating ICS.. and they prefer to call it other way.. i know there are a LOT of ppl who can't know the difference from ver. to ver. I just gotta wait.. and see what Jelly Beam would be.. 'cause at the end of all.. if it's better we all gonna update aour devices.. if not.. we stay on ICS.. (sorry if i have some gramatical or otographic errors, my native lenguage it's Spanish.. and i learn english by myself)..
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All I hope is that Asus also releases their MeMO 370T separately. I'm willing to pay an extra $50 or so for a bit better display or something along those lines.
Definitely buying it
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[Q] Android 4.2 : Project Roadrunner and Customization Center

Recently, news of a 4.2 update to Android surfaced : http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...omization-center-project-roadrunner-and-more/ - if this is true, users will no longer need to charge their devices every 1-2 days and will have tons of "official" UIs (as TW, Sense etc. or user-made ones). But the biggest point is that all devices that get up to 4.2 will no longer have to wait for the OEMs to release their custom updates and will have the choice to do vanilla Android upgrades and later apply their specific skin (TW for us, Sense for HTC users etc.). So, what do you think, will you still be using your Galaxy R by the time we get (4.1 and) 4.2 ? Will you switch to a Nexus device (like the rumored 1st tier-specced LG Optimus Nexus or the 2nd tier-specced Samsung Galaxy Nexus II) to avoid not-so-popular phone problems like ours has ?
I've already sold my S2 and ordered Galaxy Nexus...I guess I'll stay with that a year or two. I know that OMAP 4 is less powerful than exynos but...devs just love it and I hope I won't have to worry about updates (look at nexus s).
dragosh01x said:
Recently, news of a 4.2 update to Android surfaced : http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...omization-center-project-roadrunner-and-more/ - if this is true, users will no longer need to charge their devices every 1-2 days and will have tons of "official" UIs (as TW, Sense etc. or user-made ones). But the biggest point is that all devices that get up to 4.2 will no longer have to wait for the OEMs to release their custom updates and will have the choice to do vanilla Android upgrades and later apply their specific skin (TW for us, Sense for HTC users etc.). So, what do you think, will you still be using your Galaxy R by the time we get (4.1 and) 4.2 ? Will you switch to a Nexus device (like the rumored 1st tier-specced LG Optimus Nexus or the 2nd tier-specced Samsung Galaxy Nexus II) to avoid not-so-popular phone problems like ours has ?
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Concept is very nice but this is so far from reality buddy because in this short time its very difficult to work on these many changes, I don't think this is will be possible in 4.2 but hope for the best, if it happens defiantly i will buy new Nexus device (Samsung/LG) or even current Galaxy Nexus is also very nice.....
m.kochan10 said:
I've already sold my S2 and ordered Galaxy Nexus...I guess I'll stay with that a year or two. I know that OMAP 4 is less powerful than exynos but...devs just love it and I hope I won't have to worry about updates (look at nexus s).
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M.kochan great decisions buddy, yes you are correct compared to S2 Nexus H/W is not that powerful but its has great dev support (which will suite you because i know you will play with all the available ROM's) recently i have flashed AOKP on one of my friends Galaxy Nexus believe me you will love it and never go back to any other ROM after using it......
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M.kochan great decisions buddy, yes you are correct compared to S2 Nexus H/W is not that powerful but its has great dev support (which will suite you because i know you will play with all the available ROM's)......
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You're right mate :good: I am m.kochan10 and I am a flashoholic hehe :laugh:
I played little bit with jb on gnex in one carrier's shop and was shocked over this scrolling fluidity. I'd say gnex with stock jb is smoother than S3! It's the best picture of what good software means for the device.
well I am still proud owner of Galaxy R because before Android/XDA I used to compare phones on GSMarena before buying mobile or while suggesting someone, but after Android/XDA my thoughts have changed totally, regarding things to be considered, so after reading and learning things about flashing and Pimping Android to make it better than what your OEM provides you, it is quit clear that my next phone would be Nexus, one friend is coming from USA next month, so probably LG Nexus would be in my hand within 2 months, if not in budget then GNex is sure, and m.kochan10 has taken right decision, with any Nexus in your hand, you will never regret for at-least 2 years after seeing those tempting Specs of those SGS3, SGNotes or HTC One series, you wont give a flying @&$* about whatever OEMs comes with their flagship because you will be having your precious in hand.
and for all this useful knowledge I will always be thankful to my lovely Galaxy Royale
Yes, Royale will always have a sentimental value for me too. I learned a lot android while I was sgr's user! Before that I just could flash zips
PS.It's very hard to buy GNex now. In Sweden it's practically out of the stock and out of sale. Only few retailers/carriers still offer it for prices...hm equal or higher than in case of quad-core flagships. I ordered mine on ebay cos the price difference was really huge. So...I guess something is going on with the new nexus-line.
@parmarket...me too...i used to rely on gsmarena....
Bt after xda..it has changed me too...
@m.kochan.. Definitely R wld have sentiments attached s its first droid n leavin it wld b bit difficult...
M nt wid nexus..bt m with open hardware devices or devicrs that r dev friendly...
My friend has nexus prime n yes transition r awesome...
I even checked s3 of my frnd...even his scrolling or transition were smooth
Both were on stock rom wid s3 on ics n gnex on jb
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Actually we all are same. Coz b4 joining to XDA i used to search over several site and major were gsmarena and now after joining xda my perception has changed.
I do agree with m.kochan and everybody who is posting in this thread. I will also go for nexus. Will order that from ebay. I m huge fan of galaxy royal bt due to limited user and limited support i have to take hard decision. BTW i will choose Gnex.
My friend have gnote and s3. Bro has s2. Now i would go for gnex. One step ahead of all of my friends and bro. In case of getting updation. I will b on No. 1.
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i am not a hardcore user of a phone, i guess i am fine with SGR, let me see when my phone breaks down or burst
recently i got ipad so no money to buy a phone
My next phone is surely gonna be a HTC nexus for 2 reasons
1. Awesome build quality of HTC
2. Early updates for Nexus phones
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ronakchavan said:
My next phone is surely gonna be a HTC nexus for 2 reasons
1. Awesome build quality of HTC
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I would be cautious here. The old HTC phones like: Legend (I really loved this aluminium unibody...so much that I'm biding a second hand model now ) or Desire line had a great build quality...but since then new models are marred with annoying and often very serious shortcomings. Read about One line.
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I would be cautious here. The old HTC phones like: Legend (I really loved this aluminium unibody...so much that I'm biding a second hand model now ) or Desire line had a great build quality...but since then new models are marred with annoying and often very serious shortcomings. Read about One line.
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Yeah I knw der r sum issues wid d one series but d fact is that HTC uses way better materials den Samsung.. They hav a feeling of built 2 last forever... I am a big fan of the desire hd... Wad d great built that phone had!!
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That's true. In regard to galaxy serie so..in my opinion SGR feels much more solid than totally plastic S2.
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That's true. In regard to galaxy serie so..in my opinion SGR feels much more solid than totally plastic S2.
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Yup sgr feels grt in d hands ad opposed 2 sgs2 which feels as if ur holding a small bunch of paper
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chandrus1983 said:
i am not a hardcore user of a phone, i guess i am fine with SGR, let me see when my phone breaks down or burst
recently i got ipad so no money to buy a phone
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dude I have seen many times you say you are not hardcore user of phone, but I guess casual/normal user wont be on XDA flashing and experimenting different ROMs against risk of loosing warranty or bricking, so in my view you are phone enthusiast
Rumors for 4.2 android
Have anybody read this
Googler debunks the new Nexus program and Android 4.2 rumors with "LOL", source apologizes
"It was brought to our attention that the details contained in the post ‘Rumor: Android 4.2 to feature Project Roadrunner, new Play store, Customization Center, enhanced Google Now’ were fake. A rumor is a rumor, but we try to post only the ones that we can verify with multiple sources and we believe to be true. I apologize for failing to confirm this rumor with multiple sources and spreading false information."
& here is a new rumor. somebody pls give me a shot.. am i sleeping..??
Motorola Occam and Manta shown running Android 4.2 with benchmarks
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Now this gonna kill me man:
Samsung GALAXY Nexus, Google Nexus 7 already running Android 4.2?
kataria.vikesh said:
Have anybody read this
here is a new rumor. somebody pls give me a shot.. am i sleeping..??
Motorola Occam and Manta shown running Android 4.2 with benchmarks
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Do not believe in what it shows in Benchmark buddy. It just recogonize the Android version by what u give in build.prop file. You can give any version. I have even seen some results with Android 7.0.7. Its just those editing in build.prop and nothing more than that.
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Do not believe in what it shows in Benchmark buddy. It just recogonize the Android version by what u give in build.prop file. You can give any version. I have even seen some results with Android 7.0.7. Its just those editing in build.prop and nothing more than that.
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what about Samsung GALAXY Nexus, Google Nexus 7..??
Rumours (Project Roadrunner ) from Android and Me was fake read comments section of this link. http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...es-of-the-week-93012-10712/#comment-675183270
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Could anyone please tell me where or how to buy a galaxy nexus s in India. I am a little hesistent to buy online as i have read horror stories of ppl ending with a bad product after online pruchase....Please...thank you
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