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HTC Bravo

I couldn't find a topic on this, searching HTC Bravo, "HTC Bravo" and just Bravo came with nothing.
Is anyone else looking forward to the bravo? It's basically a Nexus one with hard keys, 720p recording and Sense UI.
Personally, I prefer Sense UI to stock android, even though the hero is still on 1.5 I don't see how in any way Stock Android 2.0/1 offers any better or nicer features than Sense UI.
The Bravo should be announced next week and come out in March. I can't wait for it to be honest and will be upgrading from my G1 ASAP.

The Bravo will be released in Barcelona Monday or Tuesday.
It will get a new name, can't tell what tho.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595648

xmoo said:
It will get a new name
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Are you sure ?

Dancorp said:
Are you sure ?
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100%, Just keep following my Twitter

I heard it was going to T-Mobile UK but what about T-Mobile USA.
I like the Nexus One but that stupid plan you need with it to get it at $180 on T-Mobile is what I hate.
Hopefully the Bravo will be around the same price and maybe even cheaper
I also take the Sense UI over stock android. I mean look at the Hero's ancient Android 1.5 Sense UI.
*7 screens
*Very pretty and helpful widgets with cool animations
*Multi touch in browser, gallery, and mail before Google pushed it to the Nexus One (excluding the mail)
*FLASH in browser.
*LOADS of eye candy. I mean everything I go into has eye candy. Even the darn menus.
If HTC SENSE can run smooth on my old MT3G with only 192 mb of RAM and a 528 mhz processor just think how an Android 2.2 HTC SENSE will run on a 512 mb RAM and a 1 ghz processor.
Plus the Bravo will come with all the goodies of Android 2.1
*Newer Market
*Google Maps with Multi touch and navigation
* The other goodies that I can't remember.
HTC will probably make their own version of the 3D gallery and maybe even make their own version of live wallpapers.
Plus all those Nexus One users will want a port of Bravo.
Which is harder to port: Stock Android or a Custom UI Android?

Custom UI is harder to port than Stock Android.
Am hoping this will come out on o2-uk ASAP. As for the leaked brochure saying "april" things can change since then and all sources seem to point at March.

It sure does look like the Nexus, but with a few other features.

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brummiesteven said:
I couldn't find a topic on this, searching HTC Bravo, "HTC Bravo" and just Bravo came with nothing.
Is anyone else looking forward to the bravo? It's basically a Nexus one with hard keys, 720p recording and Sense UI.
Personally, I prefer Sense UI to stock android, even though the hero is still on 1.5 I don't see how in any way Stock Android 2.0/1 offers any better or nicer features than Sense UI.
The Bravo should be announced next week and come out in March. I can't wait for it to be honest and will be upgrading from my G1 ASAP.
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Try this... seems to have a little more info on the topic
http://www.dcellphone.com/upcoming-phone-htc-bravo-release-april-2010.html
One thing i can't seem to find any info on... is it WM or Android or what?

xmoo said:
The Bravo will be released in Barcelona Monday or Tuesday.
It will get a new name, can't tell what tho.
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According to previous reply... Passion is what it will be called dude... but that'll probably change as fast as the ROM in my Touch HD when i get bored with it! ha ha ha
Saying that... wonder what this one is related to? Anyone got any ideas???
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/10808.html
Hmmm, interesting.

http://twitter.com/Xmoo/status/9094380911 have fun....

TheShowStopper said:
One thing i can't seem to find any info on... is it WM or Android or what?
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It's android lol!
I'm sure the "Desire" would be a US name? Still Bravo in the UK?

brummiesteven said:
It's android lol!
I'm sure the "Desire" would be a US name? Still Bravo in the UK?
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No Desire is the real product name!
Desire as codename was used for the Droid Eres....
For Verizon wireless it is probably be called Incredible.

Do you have any idea about this and what handset it could be?:
http://news.google.co.uk/news/url?s...om/news/31407/htc-o2-phone-expected-wednesday

brummiesteven said:
Do you have any idea about this and what handset it could be?:
http://news.google.co.uk/news/url?s...om/news/31407/htc-o2-phone-expected-wednesday
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Nope, dunno....

brummiesteven said:
Is anyone else looking forward to the bravo? It's basically a Nexus one with hard keys, 720p recording and Sense UI.
Am I looking forward to it, you bet I am. When I saw the specs for the HTC HD2 last year, I was salvating for the whole of the UK. But then you had the well documented camera glitch et al, and the shear size of the handset in my hands just put me off. Alas, then came news of the "Bravo", and it looks like the 3 year wait for well specked smartphone is almost at an end - I can't believe I've turned my nose up at the many offerings that have been cast my way - diamond 1&2, Samsung Omnia 1 & 2...the list goes on.
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Official renders:
Legend & Bravo

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Official renders:
Legend & Bravo
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Or if you don't want to click on links I'll put the pictures below.
THIS IS THE BRAVO
THIS IS THE LEGEND.
All I got to say....F**k the Nexus One. With the Bravo (same specs but looks SOOOOO much sexier and has HTC sense) It will officially go to a carrier without getting a lame ass plan or you can buy it unlocked. Same with the Legend (A powerful phone but it is a budget phone. Great for it's price but It is not going to be weak like the hero or the g1/mt3g. More RAM and a better processor.) It will officially go to a carrier without getting a lame ass plan or you can buy it unlocked.
I heard it was going to T-Mobile UK and at least one (if not both) of the phones is going to T-Mobile USA.

xmoo said:
The Bravo will be released in Barcelona Monday or Tuesday.
It will get a new name, can't tell what tho.
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im gonna be in Barcelona till wednesday! any idea how much it will cost??

ibsa03 said:
im gonna be in Barcelona till wednesday! any idea how much it will cost??
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They will release is, they won't sell it directly!
They gonna release it 2morrow.
Dunno how much, think around 599

Honeycomb for HTC Flyer, HTC EVO 3D and HTC Sensation.

Can someone please tell me how to flash a ROM from the system.img file.
The files from my extracted zip are
android-info
boot.img
dzdata_4g.img
dzdata_16g.img
dzdata_32g.img
hboot_1.11.2005.nb0
radio.img
rcdata.img
recovery.img
splash1.nb0
system.img
The file is entitled PG41IMG_Flyer_HC_S_HTC_Generic_3.05.999.1_Radio_20.3504.30.089BU_3809.07.04.12_M_tset_210502 and my friend at HTC says it is generic honeycomb for FLyer, Sensation and EVO 3D but he wouldn't tell me how to install it!!! Been pestering him for it as I saw it on his Sensation a few weeks ago and it was fantastic.
I have put in a link for the file any devs can help themselves, just please tell me how to install it!!!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9DU3HQ68

Search for xda kitchen and then follow the instructions and it will tell u how to bake a ROM and then u can flash a ROM buddy
Edit here the link pal
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
It will bake a ROM n then u can flash

WANT IT!!!!!!
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wow! this would be amazing!

Pretty sure this is just for the Flyer

I'm with EddyOS on this 1. The fact the dzdata is for 4, 16 and 32Gb hardware gives it away. how ever I'm sure if you dropped in a 1Gb version you could get this to work but as i don't have a spare sensation lying around I'm not willing to try it just yet.

This sounds very interesting.
I hope a few of the very experienced DEVS around here look into it and tweak it up a bit.

i would like to see how this look my self

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Taken from Paul's MCR for the Fyler thread:
http://android.modaco.com/topic/345...co-custom-rom-for-the-htc-flyer-honeycomb-32/

Eddy is that on the Sensation? ^^

It all looks rather good ^_^ Pretty sure though its for the Flyer only atm as others have mentioned. I can't decide which cheap tablet to get for the parents as of yet... Shall wait though as Kal-El is out soon...

this would be absolutely amazing if it works straight off on the Sensation......

Those pix are for Flyer waiting to see confirmation regarding the sensation

I know they are, as it's the Flyer ROM - I posted the pics!. This will not work on the Sensation, I can pretty much guarantee it
HC is a tablet OS, Sense in this ROM is 'Sense for Tablets' - it's not going to work and, if it does, it'll be ****

EddyOS said:
I know they are, as it's the Flyer ROM - I posted the pics!. This will not work on the Sensation, I can pretty much guarantee it
HC is a tablet OS, Sense in this ROM is 'Sense for Tablets' - it's not going to work and, if it does, it'll be ****
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True it wouldn't work straight off however it has a much better chance of being a good port than other honeycomb ROMs as the HTC Flyer is a HTC device and therefore the libs from the Sensation may be more compatible. Also and possibly more importantly the HTC Flyer uses a Qualcomm CPU vs the Tegra in other tablets which may aide compatibility further.
It would be nice to see what some experienced chefs could come up with for the Sensation from this Honeycomb ROM as it's possibly the most compatible Honeycomb ROM yet apart from the HTC Jetstream which due to it's dual core Qualcomm CPU and 8mp camera might be more compatible still? Although it would take an experienced chef to find out!

I've made into a ROM with the kitchen into a flashable zip buy I'm sure things would need to resized. Just flashed the framework and sys UI to my current ROM from here (just drawable hdpi folders)
I know its a tablet ROM but I'm sure this would be able to port to sensation. What would be needed?
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Ok guys, porting Honeycomb, no matter if its HTC or whatever, is not easy. Most, if not all, of our current libs are probably unusable on HC. And, if I were doing the port, I'd choose the Jetstream/Puccini ROM because THAT tablet has the same chipset as the Sensation. In my experience porting roms to HD2, its much easier when the chipset is the same one. And the Flyer is single core, plus its another resolution, so porting it will be totally hard and imo, useless, because it will be full of bugs, that won't probably ever be solved because there is no Source code for HC. So, just wait patiently for Ice Cream Sandwich. hope you understood what I meant
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Does honeycomb even have the capabilities to make a call? They sell them were I work, I'm not a fan but having the option to have it on a sensation would be nice, we also sell the HP for 80 quid. Getting honeycomb on that would be a great acheivment, as an 80 quid dual core tablet running honeycomb is right up there with the bargain of the century.

I've moved this and edited the title. This is not a ROM thread, is not Dev work, and does NOT work on the sensation, so please don't try anything with the files unless you know what you are doing.

Any chance of a flyer rom for the sensation? Would look good in my opinion

HTC SENSE 4 Video Preview and Screenshots

Video from HTC Ville & Screenshots from HTC Endeavor​
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this is quite old news now. but thanks for the effort!

Unfoturnately, we won't see a official release of this on our desires... HTC will be selfish bastards and just release us ICS + Sense 3.6. It's their way to still persuade us to upgrade our phones.
This is like what they did for original Desire owners... they gave them Gingerbread, but still dumped them with the old HTC sense UI
they will save this new Sense for their new 2012 lineup.

dan-fish said:
this is quite old news now. but thanks for the effort!
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Ya i know but few people still doubt about Sense 4. So for them i compiled it.
olyloh6696 said:
Unfoturnately, we won't see a official release of this on our desires... HTC will be selfish bastards and just release us ICS + Sense 3.6. It's their way to still persuade us to upgrade our phones.
This is like what they did for original Desire owners... they gave them Gingerbread, but still dumped them with the old HTC sense UI
they will save this new Sense for their new 2012 lineup.
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Can blame them for that, they are there to do some business. Happy to hear that they will provide update for DS for android 4 with sense 3.6 when samsung denies proper update for galaxy s.
Hopefully some one will port sense 4 for DS.
Really liked the new clock widget and sense 4 ui. Sense 3.6 is a shame

olyloh6696 said:
Unfoturnately, we won't see a official release of this on our desires... HTC will be selfish bastards and just release us ICS + Sense 3.6. It's their way to still persuade us to upgrade our phones.
This is like what they did for original Desire owners... they gave them Gingerbread, but still dumped them with the old HTC sense UI
they will save this new Sense for their new 2012 lineup.
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No need to get so angry oly You never know, we might get Sense 4. If not, i'm satisfied with Sense 3.6, it's not like either one of us will use the stock upgrade A kernel 3.0, and we're on to the first custom ROM with a Sense 4 port.
As far as the Desire is concerned, that device had very low memory. It could hardly take gingerbread with 2.1. After the update, you could install 10 apps, max. Sense 3 would have maxed it out entirely
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olyloh6696 said:
Unfoturnately, we won't see a official release of this on our desires... HTC will be selfish bastards and just release us ICS + Sense 3.6.
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The kernel will be more than enough. I am pretty happy with CM9 or clean Android 4. Google guys made a great job with it.
Actually I think that Sense reached its peak already. I hope that I am wrong though

onlyankush_s said:
Ya i know but few people still doubt about Sense 4. So for them i compiled it.
Can blame them for that, they are there to do some business. Happy to hear that they will provide update for DS for android 4 with sense 3.6 when samsung denies proper update for galaxy s.
Hopefully some one will port sense 4 for DS.
Really liked the new clock widget and sense 4 ui. Sense 3.6 is a shame
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Yeah I suppose... Personally I dislike that new clock! It's so ugly hopefully they still keep the old one!
shrome99 said:
No need to get so angry oly You never know, we might get Sense 4. If not, i'm satisfied with Sense 3.6, it's not like either one of us will use the stock upgrade A kernel 3.0, and we're on to the first custom ROM with a Sense 4 port.
As far as the Desire is concerned, that device had very low memory. It could hardly take gingerbread with 2.1. After the update, you could install 10 apps, max. Sense 3 would have maxed it out entirely
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you have a good point about the Desire actually!
Yeah I won't be using the official upgrade anyway
But its easier to base a ROM on a official release rather than a ported one...
amidabuddha said:
The kernel will be more than enough. I am pretty happy with CM9 or clean Android 4. Google guys made a great job with it.
Actually I think that Sense reached its peak already. I hope that I am wrong though
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I agree with you. The main gain we get from the update is the kernel source, and drivers.
Google has done a good job the UI looks pretty for once!
However, I haven't used ICS as my daily driver yet, so I can't tell from its functionality from Sense.
Personally, I think Sense 2.1 and 3.5 are the best upgrades. They added great functionality to their older parts.
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Sense 4.0 port on Sensation, man its sexy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk5dvE9bT3c&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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olyloh6696 said:
Sense 4.0 port on Sensation, man its sexy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk5dvE9bT3c&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Man that looks awesome!!
Sense 4.0, you have a fan-in-waiting already!

Wow that looks nice. Im using Miui at the minute but i think this will take me back!

Completely off topic and totally unrelated, but i thought you guys might wanna watch this!
It made me laugh real hard!

nice one man... poor iphone user.

Jellybean is Android 4.1 to Debut on Nexus Tablet

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Recently some internal informant had access to a Nexus tablet, and had decided to do a benchmark on it. We have received the result from the benchmark and they are naturally pretty well. The “Google Asus Nexus 7″‘s benchmark were also very informative on the hardware that the tablet includes.
Google’s $199 “Nexus tablet“, appeared online this week in Rightware’s Basemark ES 2.0 Taiji benchmark test. Most of the details revealed in the benchmark match up with what was previous reported. The device will be made by ASUS, feature a 7-inch display with 1280×768 resolution, and use NVIDIA’s quad-core Tegra 3 processor.
What’s new in this benchmark result is the Android version 4.1. Rightware tells us this is the only device they have ever seen to include Android 4.1. The device also featured a software build number JRN51B, which is important because J represents Jelly Bean.
The device also has the model name listed as “Nexus 7″, which could be the final product name.
Some of us had speculated that Jelly Bean would be a major release and become Android 5.0, but this new evidence suggest it will be more of a minor update and be labeled Android 4.1. We reached out to a second source who claims to have seen the Nexus tablet, and they also said it was running Android 4.1.
Details are still limited, but we are told that Android 4.1 will feature a user experience very similar to Amazon’s Kindle Fire. The device will feature multiple home screens that are dedicated to different types of content (music, movies, books, etc).
We are just a month away from Google IO, when this “Nexus tablet” is expected to be revealed, so look for more details to leak over the coming weeks.

Hopefully these benchmarks are from different tablet as I would like to have 9.7-10.1 inch tablet instead of 7-inch which is only a bit larger than Galaxy Nexus

i'll love to have this tablet.. the price fits perfect to my budget.. but i have to say that.. Android it's going way too fast.. i think ICS it's good.. (REALLE good) and if u pull out a new ver. so fast.. you won't let all of your users taste that great SO call it ICS.. If the SO sucks.. i understand.. but it's great.. relax android.. we are just having fun with ics..

Yeah, it's great idea but ...
Now in the GT-I9001 is already 4.0.3 without STABLE camera and we wait ... too long for it. Now ? 4.1 is new challenge for our developers ... and we need to wait another long time for it ...

The thing its not that we wait too long for the devs (not complaining at all) it's just that their going too fast.. that will bring problems to the devs of roms and apps.. not all the apps are ICS compatible.. if they start to doit too quickly will bring problems.. (personal thought)
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Thank god the tablet isn't 16:9. I'm really looking forward to it.
Edit: I spoke way too fast. It is 16:9, with a little added height for the nav bar. Unfortunate really.

TRDuarteH said:
The thing its not that we wait too long for the devs (not complaining at all) it's just that their going too fast.. that will bring problems to the devs of roms and apps.. not all the apps are ICS compatible.. if they start to doit too quickly will bring problems.. (personal thought)
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This is wrong. Apps will be fine with the move to Jellybean. It is just the fact that ICS was such a major upgrade to merge the tablet and mobile OS. That is the reason some apps are weird. And now that you say that, I can't think of an app that is incompatible with my Gnex. Don't expect Jellybean to look different than ICS...people around here have some weird expectations. Google isn't going to completely revamp their software every year...

Of course i don't think google will come up with a major update.. there's not sense at all.. but what i mean is.. is it really necessary?.. in my opinion.. no.. just personal.. i prefer one major update.. than a lot of little updates.. we can be happy 'cause the devs are great.. but.. those who prefer to wait for oficial updates from their manufacturers?. If we (those who try a lot of third party roms) wait some time.. it's nothing compare with the waiting for those who prefer stock roms.. i just know that I want that tablet..
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TRDuarteH said:
Of course i don't think google will come up with a major update.. there's not sense at all.. but what i mean is.. is it really necessary?.. in my opinion.. no.. just personal.. i prefer one major update.. than a lot of little updates.. we can be happy 'cause the devs are great.. but.. those who prefer to wait for oficial updates from their manufacturers?. If we (those who try a lot of third party roms) wait some time.. it's nothing compare with the waiting for those who prefer stock roms.. i just know that I want that tablet..
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Listen. Ice Cream Sandwich has been on 4.0.1, 4.0.2, 4.0.3 and 4.0.4. All Jellybean means is they decide to call it 4.1 instead of say....4.0.8. Most users can't tell what software they are on anyway. My wife's Sensation just got ICS 2 weeks ago in an OTA. She can't tell the difference.

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Listen. Ice Cream Sandwich has been on 4.0.1, 4.0.2, 4.0.3 and 4.0.4. All Jellybean means is they decide to call it 4.1 instead of say....4.0.8. Most users can't tell what software they are on anyway. My wife's Sensation just got ICS 2 weeks ago in an OTA. She can't tell the difference.
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LOLOL

lowandbehold said:
Listen. Ice Cream Sandwich has been on 4.0.1, 4.0.2, 4.0.3 and 4.0.4. All Jellybean means is they decide to call it 4.1 instead of say....4.0.8. Most users can't tell what software they are on anyway. My wife's Sensation just got ICS 2 weeks ago in an OTA. She can't tell the difference.
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Can't agree with you.. the way all the numbers are put on the codenames.. or versions (call it the way you wan it) every one of those have their explanation.. it's not that simple.. Google won't call it Jelly Beam just because they don't want to keep updating ICS.. and they prefer to call it other way.. i know there are a LOT of ppl who can't know the difference from ver. to ver. I just gotta wait.. and see what Jelly Beam would be.. 'cause at the end of all.. if it's better we all gonna update aour devices.. if not.. we stay on ICS.. (sorry if i have some gramatical or otographic errors, my native lenguage it's Spanish.. and i learn english by myself)..
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All I hope is that Asus also releases their MeMO 370T separately. I'm willing to pay an extra $50 or so for a bit better display or something along those lines.

Definitely buying it
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HTC canceled ICS for Desire...

http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
Does this mean no ICS for Inspire?

FatGrover said:
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
Does this mean no ICS for Inspire?
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It was never coming for the inspire anyway
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I meant mostly because most ICS roms for Inspire were waiting for ics kernel of desire hd...

It doesn't matter that it was never coming for the Inspire specifically. Any ICS update for the Desire HD can be easily ported and help all Inspire owners. We should be angry about this, not only Desire HD owners.
It means no official ICS. There are already several unofficial AOSP ICS ROMs and a few Desire V ICS ports.

I wont ever own another HTC product. Promise ics to DHD and then say the customer quality is what they are concerned about. Yet the desire c is half our phone and is getting it >.<
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I agree, I have owned a number of HTC products in the past and this is reinforcing my jumping ship to other manufacturers.

amf66 said:
It doesn't matter that it was never coming for the Inspire specifically. Any ICS update for the Desire HD can be easily ported and help all Inspire owners. We should be angry about this, not only Desire HD owners.
It means no official ICS. There are already several unofficial AOSP ICS ROMs and a few Desire V ICS ports.
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I know that, he never specified whether he was talking about custom roms or not
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Guys let me let you in on a little secret. All OEM are the same when it comes to this. Mainly here in the states where the carriers control the updates. With the way hardware and Android are updating the best you can hope for is a 6 month period where the device may get an update. After that all bets are off. If updates are important to you then get a Nexus and be done with it. Its not like most dont run a AOSP based rom anyway so why pay all the extra for the OEM stuff. No need to be all upset about it.

zelendel said:
Guys let me let you in on a little secret. All OEM are the same when it comes to this. Mainly here in the states where the carriers control the updates. With the way hardware and Android are updating the best you can hope for is a 6 month period where the device may get an update. After that all bets are off. If updates are important to you then get a Nexus and be done with it. Its not like most dont run a AOSP based rom anyway so why pay all the extra for the OEM stuff. No need to be all upset about it.
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Nexus FTW
sent from my Galaxy Nexus running official Jelly Bean!!!!

that sucks ..
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium

Sucks
Sucks big time, bye HTC, Hello Nexus

Adeelx said:
Sucks big time, by HTC, Hello Nexus
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[bye] HTC. Hello Galaxy Note 2.
Sent from my Epic Touch(GSII)

It is what it is
There is nothing we can do about HTC cancelling the update to DHD except complain to HTC. If you want the best possibility of updates then a Google Nexus phone is the way to go (as already mentioned). Remember that it is probably not ICS specifically that created performance issues, but rather the combination of ICS and whatever version of a newer Sense (Rosie) HTC was planning. I have experienced that the phone handles AOSP ICS versions just fine, but Sense 3.0 and later versions paired with ICS would probably be a drag on this phone. Remember that when the Inspire came out, other manufacturers were already utilizing dual core technology so the phone was already behind the times upon release.

Right. Some of the custom ICS ROMs run very smoothly. It must be Sense that is the problem. Too bad, really. I intend to keep running with the Redemption ICS ROM on the Inspire until Google announces the next Nexus later this year and then I will jump ship. I was tempted, especially with JB, to buy a GSM GN but given that by October or November we might have some new Nexus hardware announced, I just need to be patient.

luciano.chavez said:
Right. Some of the custom ICS ROMs run very smoothly. It must be Sense that is the problem. Too bad, really. I intend to keep running with the Redemption ICS ROM on the Inspire until Google announces the next Nexus later this year and then I will jump ship. I was tempted, especially with JB, to buy a GSM GN but given that by October or November we might have some new Nexus hardware announced, I just need to be patient.
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I have noticed that GB and Sense 3.0 and 3.5 custom ROMs have the occasional lag. I can only imagine what ICS combined with 3.5 (or even 4.0) would do to the usability. I have tried a couple of AOSP based ICS roms and they work well (except for the bugs such as camera issues). I have had better experiences in regards to performance with CM 7 ROMs than I ever did with the rooted stock rom (with bloatware removed of course). I will be buying a new Nexus myself once a newer version is released. I will use my contract renewal to get my wife a new phone every year (keeps her quiet about cheap gifts at Christmas and birthdays which are less than a month apart) and I get a phone which I know will receive support for a long time.

aybarrap1 said:
I have noticed that GB and Sense 3.0 and 3.5 custom ROMs have the occasional lag. I can only imagine what ICS combined with 3.5 (or even 4.0) would do to the usability. I have tried a couple of AOSP based ICS roms and they work well (except for the bugs such as camera issues). I have had better experiences in regards to performance with CM 7 ROMs than I ever did with the rooted stock rom (with bloatware removed of course). I will be buying a new Nexus myself once a newer version is released. I will use my contract renewal to get my wife a new phone every year (keeps her quiet about cheap gifts at Christmas and birthdays which are less than a month apart) and I get a phone which I know will receive support for a long time.
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AOSPX now has a working video camera. Only 480 l but still works.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Tapatalk 2

Was a huge HTC fan before I saw this.
Dare I say cough cough... iPhone 5 for my next phone? naaa
But the Samsung Galaxy III sounds like a good choice.
wrenhal said:
AOSPX now has a working video camera. Only 480 l but still works.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Tapatalk 2
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Relax guys. I've realized that even if they don't want us to have it, we will get it as soon as the Desire S or Incredible S gets kernel source for ICS. After that, porting a full Sense 4 or 3.6 ROM is a walk in the park.

Hunt3r.j2 said:
Relax guys. I've realized that even if they don't want us to have it, we will get it as soon as the Desire S or Incredible S gets kernel source for ICS. After that, porting a full Sense 4 or 3.6 ROM is a walk in the park.
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Even then, team virtuous has nearly finished porting a completely working HTC 3.0 kernel. Sense doesn't work on our phones because we don't have the right kernel running under it. Virtuous and Pacha have 2 ROMs that are almost completely working. Camera doesn't work on some phones that have hardware from omnivision (me unfortunately :crying, but if you have Samsung hardware then you're in luck. Some of the other sense 4/2.6 ROMS also work without a hitch if you flash the 3.0 kernel, and a few patches.