Where to save backups & the new rom before wipe/format? - Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My question is, what is being wiped/formated when i do so in recovery mode?
If i have the "new rom" in the sdcard, before flashing it, doesn't that get wiped?
And what about Titanium backups? Or if i want to keep a stock rom backup on my device just in case?
I know there are partitions and everything has it`s place...but still, wanna be absolutely sure.
Can someone please explain what's what?
Thank you
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Saintom said:
My question is, what is being wiped/formated when i do so in recovery mode?
If i have the "new rom" in the sdcard, before flashing it, doesn't that get wiped?
And what about Titanium backups? Or if i want to keep a stock rom backup on my device just in case?
I know there are partitions and everything has it`s place...but still, wanna be absolutely sure.
Can someone please explain what's what?
Thank you
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i'm pretty sure you get to keep everything but what's in youe /system/ folder.
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Ok, that helps, but what does a factory rest ( from backup & rest menu ) do, and what does formating from recovery do? Does both only del the /system/?
What about what's in the /sdcard folder? There are cache folders there, does clearing cache and dalvik clears those as well ?
Just curious, what to learn and haven't found anything about it....
Thanks!
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Saintom said:
Ok, that helps, but what does a factory rest ( from backup & rest menu ) do, and what does formating from recovery do? Does both only del the /system/?
What about what's in the /sdcard folder? There are cache folders there, does clearing cache and dalvik clears those as well ?
Just curious, what to learn and haven't found anything about it....
Thanks!
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I havent tried it out with this tablet yet but on my phone it does NOT format sdcard neither the internal sdcard.
So I dont think you would loose data on the sdcard. (Though not 100% sure with this tablet)
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Stempanssi said:
I havent tried it out with this tablet yet but on my phone it does NOT format sdcard neither the internal sdcard.
So I dont think you would loose data on the sdcard. (Though not 100% sure with this tablet)
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So it should be safe to keep a stock backup anywhere but on /system folder..?!
What did you do when u flashed a new rom...if u did... should be the same principle i believe...
Thanks m8
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Saintom said:
So it should be safe to keep a stock backup anywhere but on /system folder..?!
What did you do when u flashed a new rom...if u did... should be the same principle i believe...
Thanks m8
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In my phone yes but like I said I haven't tried this out yet on my tablet
On my phone I flashed it normally:
First backup then wipe data then wipe cache and then wipe dalvik cache and then install rom
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Yea and if you like you could backup and then restart tablet and plug it into your computer and copy the backup to a safe place
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Thank you!
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Stempanssi said:
Yea and if you like you could backup and then restart tablet and plug it into your computer and copy the backup to a safe place
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Yes don't do what I did and backed everyting up to the internal SD card thinking that waould be ok.. It ended up wiping everything. :silly:
I wasn't too happy either as I still haven't been able to get another copy of the tablet version of Firefox.

o0o.paw said:
Yes don't do what I did and backed everyting up to the internal SD card thinking that waould be ok.. It ended up wiping everything. :silly:
I wasn't too happy either as I still haven't been able to get another copy of the tablet version of Firefox.
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I`m confused a bit...
When installing a new Rom, some say; to wipe and format and clear cache and then install from zip....
So where do they keep the zip file if everything is getting wiped...?
same goes for Titanium backup, backups...
Thanks!
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Saintom said:
I`m confused a bit...
When installing a new Rom, some say; to wipe and format and clear cache and then install from zip....
So where do they keep the zip file if everything is getting wiped...?
same goes for Titanium backup, backups...
Thanks!
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I thnk it depends on what recovery you're using to do this
here's what I did
titanium backup, everything to external SD card
install TWRP
make nandroid on external SD card
download rom
copy rom to external SD card
unmount/remove external SD card from tablet
in TWRP there was no option to format
so I cleared/wiped cash and dalvic
everything but the system folder was left intact
flash rom
reboot
everything is works great
but note most instructions say to format
I haven't been on CWM, but my guess is there's a format option in that recovery
Format would definetely wipe albsolutely everyting
compare to clear/wipe cashe and dalvik is not the same

yep, i'm not gonna risk loosing data... copy all backups to external microsd
and then format/factory rest.... and then copy Rom back to internal sdcard...and clear
cache...
better safe then sorry...
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Microsd problem

Today my microsd died ... isn't a problem, all data are backuped. I've
Insert new one, restored data and all work good ; but clockwork recovery is unable to mount it and I can't update to new roms.
Any ideas to solve it's?
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The DEV subforum is NOT the right place for this!
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homerino85 said:
Tosate my microsd died ... isn't a problem, all data are backuped. I've
Insert new one, restored data and all work good ; but clockwork recovery is unable to mount it and I can't update to new roms.
Any ideas to solve it's?
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Try format the micro sd card again.
Already formatted to fat32 at the same old SD.
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if you want to update rom you can use nvflash version (revolver and prime have it)then you can retry via cwm.i had this prob weeks nago and i resolve with flashing with nvflash and then my cwm read properly the microd new..hope this helps,in my case it works week ago!

Ran into a problem installing JB rom EOS

Hello guys
I am new to the rooting scene and I ran into a little problem. I followed an instruction online to root my tablet (TF101) and got Rom Manager to work. I also flashed ClockworkMod by using the rom manager. I am trying to flash my rom into the Jelly Bean from EOS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1782410. I did a full back up of my stock rom and ready to install the new rom. I put the downloaded file (from the link I put) into the root folder of the main SD. But when I try to install the rom from rom management, my tablet just reboots and nothing is installed. I really have no idea where to go from here. Please help !
I got it to install but now I am stuck at the boot screen! What now?
instinct408 said:
I got it to install but now I am stuck at the boot screen! What now?
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You have soft bricked the tablet...
Can you access CWM ?
then download the latest build of team eos (build 63)... create a folder in your external MMC and save it in there
Go to recovery/cwm and format factory settings/data, wipe cache wipe dalvik cache
Now install the ROM by navigating to the folder where you have saved the zip file and selecting it...
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Also read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671598.
I had that issue a while ago...cwm recovery doesn't play that nicely with the tf101...I had to get team rogues specially altered cwm and hey presto, back in the game!
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udupa82 said:
You have soft bricked the tablet...
Can you access CWM ?
then download the latest build of team eos (build 63)... create a folder in your external MMC and save it in there
Go to recovery/cwm and format factory settings/data, wipe cache wipe dalvik cache
Now install the ROM by navigating to the folder where you have saved the zip file and selecting it...
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I just tried this, now I am stuck at the EOS boot screen =[
instinct408 said:
I just tried this, now I am stuck at the EOS boot screen =[
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U just soft bricked your tablet... as long as you can access your recovery you should be OK... format your external mmc and then copy the latest version of eos and place it back into tablet... now wipe everything and flash it again you should be OK.. doesn't work then wipe and use AOSP JB... you will get it to work don't worry...
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udupa82 said:
U just soft bricked your tablet... as long as you can access your recovery you should be OK... format your external mmc and then copy the latest version of eos and place it back into tablet... now wipe everything and flash it again you should be OK.. doesn't work then wipe and use AOSP JB... you will get it to work don't worry...
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When you say mmc, are you talking about the micro SD card? I have been installing from the internal SD. Do you think that could have caused the problem? Also when you say format, do u mean delete everything and place the JB zip file directly into the micro SD?
Problem fixed. I just followed this guide and got a new CWM and that seems to work great
Here is the guide for anyone with the same problem.
http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/asus-transformer-development/18042-guide-clockworkmod-recovery-bootloop-fix-tested-my-c10-windows.html
instinct408 said:
When you say mmc, are you talking about the micro SD card? I have been installing from the internal SD. Do you think that could have caused the problem? Also when you say format, do u mean delete everything and place the JB zip file directly into the micro SD?
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Nice it worked out...
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wipe internal storage

Hi everyone,
how can I wipe all the data from the internal storage of my TF101?
I am using the Rogue XM Recovery 1.3.0 atm
Thanks
Go into Android Revolution HD's OP and you can use the SuperWipe. But beware, make a back up of your internal on your PC, as there is no going back. When it is wiped, it is gone forever (insert evil laugh here).
[email protected] said:
Hi everyone,
how can I wipe all the data from the internal storage of my TF101?
I am using the Rogue XM Recovery 1.3.0 atm
Thanks
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You can wipe only if you r installing new ROM.. otherwise u will brick ur tablet...
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Ok so I put the Super Wipe zip and the ROM zip both on my external SD, then flash Super Wipe and the the ROM, right?
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Ok so I put the Super Wipe zip and the ROM zip both on my external SD, then flash Super Wipe and the the ROM, right?
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It shouldnt wipe external SD until you manually tell it to.. even if it does you always copy and paste...
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Every worked fine. Thanks guys

[Q] Rom Update ---> No copy/paste function of storage

Hello all,
I have a big problem with my Transformer.
I was using Android Revolution HD 3.5.1. Then flash LiquidSmooth v2.0 RC7 , then KERNEL of sainthout for JB, and issue happened.
Issue:
- Can't copy and paste any kind of file from outside into the internal storage (I don't have sdcard, use internal storage only). Everytime I try, it takes a long time and respond with a Windows message like this
- Can't use File Manager to delete or move file, it says "Delete file failed"
- I can delete file while connect to PC but the file still exist.
Try to flash back to Android Revolution HD 3.5.1 and harmony kernel but it still failed.
Need advice.
Kind regards,thanks
Update troubleshoting:
When I wipe Dalvik Cache, Transformer says: "E:unknown volume for path [/sd-ext]"
hunterval said:
Update troubleshoting:
When I wipe Dalvik Cache, Transformer says: "E:unknown volume for path [/sd-ext]"
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Use easyflash and go back to stock, then root it again, install a different recovery ( twrp or rogue recovery)
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I had a similar problem. Seems like between JB and ICS roms the permissions get messed up. I have a user "media_rw" in JB and "sdcard_rw" in ICS on the mount to /sdcard. The only way I could fix it was to backup the data and reformat the internal memory. Then I just copied the data back.
One other thing first, try copying from /data/media. That should be the same as /sdcard.
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sttovo said:
I had a similar problem. Seems like between JB and ICS roms the permissions get messed up. I have a user "media_rw" in JB and "sdcard_rw" in ICS on the mount to /sdcard. The only way I could fix it was to backup the data and reformat the internal memory. Then I just copied the data back.
One other thing first, try copying from /data/media. That should be the same as /sdcard.
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OMG I don't think there is someone got the weird issue like me. I totally agreed with you about the permissions between JB and ICS roms.
Thought about your solution, trying it, thanks. But can you give me more details of how to reformating the internal memory
udupa82 said:
Use easyflash and go back to stock, then root it again, install a different recovery ( twrp or rogue recovery)
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the easyflash doesn't work at all, but install rogue recovery. anyway thanks for your advice.
go to stock rom but nothing better, i'm trapped with this!!!!!!!!! Somebody please help
hunterval said:
go to stock rom but nothing better, i'm trapped with this!!!!!!!!! Somebody please help
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Internal memory can be wiped using twrp recovery, I'm not sure that option is available in rogue, if its there use it... wipe everything and install CM10 , it should work.....
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This is what I had to do. Wipe internal memory from TWRP. I copied the data back after format using Root Explorer.
I had some scripts setup to do the copy recovery, but I think that only made the problem worse.
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Oh, and I think after I formatted internal memory I did a Fix Permissions from TWRP
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sttovo said:
This is what I had to do. Wipe internal memory from TWRP. I copied the data back after format using Root Explorer.
I had some scripts setup to do the copy recovery, but I think that only made the problem worse.
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Oh, and I think after I formatted internal memory I did a Fix Permissions from TWRP
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Wipe and do a clean install.... do not copy any old data back... CLEAN INSTALL...
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Sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant only the data you didn't have in the backup or wasn't in the backup. I agree, the key is the clean install.
When I had my issue, my "internal storage" in wasn't backed up. The Download, Android, Pictures, etc folders.
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sttovo said:
This is what I had to do. Wipe internal memory from TWRP. I copied the data back after format using Root Explorer.
I had some scripts setup to do the copy recovery, but I think that only made the problem worse.
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Oh, and I think after I formatted internal memory I did a Fix Permissions from TWRP
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SOLVED! thanks you very much for your advice bro, it works with me now!
To anyone who has the problem like me, please follow this thread.
And one lesson for me, always backup the current rom before update anything!!!
You're more than welcome. I'm glad I could actually help someone for once instead of feeling like such a leech.

[Q] Clean install of a ROM

Hello all,
I would like to reflash CROMi-X and the MAX kernel but this time I want to do it as cleanly as possible. What are the steps to do this. I see it referenced all over that it is best to do a clean install but I can't find out exactly how to do it.
Sorry if this is a stupid question or if it is detailed somewhere that I could not find it but I want a good procedure that I can use whenever flashing new ROMS and kernels to be sure there is nothing hanging around that would cause variability in the install.
Thanks in advance for any help
Jeff
gixxer340 said:
Hello all,
I would like to reflash CROMi-X and the MAX kernel but this time I want to do it as cleanly as possible. What are the steps to do this. I see it referenced all over that it is best to do a clean install but I can't find out exactly how to do it.
Sorry if this is a stupid question or if it is detailed somewhere that I could not find it but I want a good procedure that I can use whenever flashing new ROMS and kernels to be sure there is nothing hanging around that would cause variability in the install.
Thanks in advance for any help
Jeff
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Depends on which recovery you have installed -- the most often recommended sequence seems to be "wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe Dalvik cache, reinstall". Obviously, you may need to remove some apps' data folders from /sdcard by hand.
The opinions are divided as far as wiping the caches is concerned -- some do, some don't.
MartyHulskemper said:
Depends on which recovery you have installed -- the most often recommended sequence seems to be "wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe Dalvik cache, reinstall". Obviously, you may need to remove some apps' data folders from /sdcard by hand.
The opinions are divided as far as wiping the caches is concerned -- some do, some don't.
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I have TWRP 2.5 installed. Is the above the process for TWRP
Thanks
Jeff
gixxer340 said:
I have TWRP 2.5 installed. Is the above the process for TWRP
Thanks
Jeff
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In TWRP select 'Wipe > Advanced' and then select everything except the external microSD. That'll give you a nice and clean installation.
Just make sure you have the Rom you want to flash afterwards on that microSD, not on the internal where it may get wiped
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[Q=berndblb;43602193]In TWRP MI lect 'Wipe > Advanced' and then select everything except the external microSD. That'll give you a nice and clean installation.
Just make sure you have the Rom you want to flash afterwards on that microSD, not on the internal where it may get wiped
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I dont seem to be able to see my microSD card from TWRP. It is formatted as ntfs, I wonder if that is the issue. What should it be formatted as?
Thanks
Jeff
gixxer340 said:
[Q=berndblb;43602193]In TWRP MI lect 'Wipe > Advanced' and then select everything except the external microSD. That'll give you a nice and clean installation.
Just make sure you have the Rom you want to flash afterwards on that microSD, not on the internal where it may get wiped
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I dont seem to be able to see my microSD card from TWRP. It is formatted as ntfs, I wonder if that is the issue. What should it be formatted as?
Thanks
Jeff[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it has to be FAT32. Actually exFAT seems to work too. Just tried it, and TWRP sees the nandroid on a 8gb exFAT fine. Didn't try to restore though...
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berndblb said:
I dont seem to be able to see my microSD card from TWRP. It is formatted as ntfs, I wonder if that is the issue. What should it be formatted as?
Thanks
Jeff
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Yeah, it has to be FAT32. Actually exFAT seems to work too. Just tried it, and TWRP sees the nandroid on a 8gb exFAT fine. Didn't try to restore though...
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Reformatting exFAT right now. Hopefully that will work.
Thanks again,
Jeff
berndblb said:
In TWRP select 'Wipe > Advanced' and then select everything except the external microSD. That'll give you a nice and clean installation.
Just make sure you have the Rom you want to flash afterwards on that microSD, not on the internal where it may get wiped
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Hi, without hijacking this thread - i've installed Cromix and everything is running great, but i can still see folders and files i had created when my 700 was stock. Am i doing something wrong here? I would have thought that wiping everything except for the microsd card would have given me a blank slate to start with but it seems there is a fair amount of data left over after the ROM flash.
Actually as i'm typing this i've just had a thought, is it a case that the documents, pics, wallpapers etc are on a separate partition (for want of a better definition) and they're just visible after the installation?
thanks,
sean
2Droidswalking said:
Hi, without hijacking this thread - i've installed Cromix and everything is running great, but i can still see folders and files i had created when my 700 was stock. Am i doing something wrong here? I would have thought that wiping everything except for the microsd card would have given me a blank slate to start with but it seems there is a fair amount of data left over after the ROM flash.
Actually as i'm typing this i've just had a thought, is it a case that the documents, pics, wallpapers etc are on a separate partition (for want of a better definition) and they're just visible after the installation?
thanks,
sean
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I have noticed that problems a while back when I am using TWRP 2.5.0.0. Therefore, I always prefer to use Format instead of Wipe.
2Droidswalking said:
Hi, without hijacking this thread - i've installed Cromix and everything is running great, but i can still see folders and files i had created when my 700 was stock. Am i doing something wrong here? I would have thought that wiping everything except for the microsd card would have given me a blank slate to start with but it seems there is a fair amount of data left over after the ROM flash.
Actually as i'm typing this i've just had a thought, is it a case that the documents, pics, wallpapers etc are on a separate partition (for want of a better definition) and they're just visible after the installation?
thanks,
sean
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If you wipe or factory reset in TWRP, it erases everything except the /data/media folder, and that is where your data lives.... You have to manually erase those files if you want to get rid of them.
Interestingly, you'll find symlinks to the contents of /data/media in 4!! locations:
/sdcard
/storage/sdcard0
/storage /emulated/0
/storage /emulated /legacy
This crazy structure is due to the multi user support in JB 4.2. I still have a hard time to get my head around it....
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berndblb said:
If you wipe or factory reset in TWRP, it erases everything except the /data/media folder, and that is where your data lives.... You have to manually erase those files if you want to get rid of them.
Interestingly, you'll find symlinks to the contents of /data/media in 4!! locations:
/sdcard
/storage/sdcard0
/storage /emulated/0
/storage /emulated /legacy
This crazy structure is due to the multi user support in JB 4.2. I still have a hard time to get my head around it....
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:good: Thanks, it is good to know.
berndblb said:
If you wipe or factory reset in TWRP, it erases everything except the /data/media folder, and that is where your data lives.... You have to manually erase those files if you want to get rid of them.
Interestingly, you'll find symlinks to the contents of /data/media in 4!! locations:
/sdcard
/storage/sdcard0
/storage /emulated/0
/storage /emulated /legacy
This crazy structure is due to the multi user support in JB 4.2. I still have a hard time to get my head around it....
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How incredibly bizarre....but interesting nonetheless. 23 years in IT and it's time to start learning again. I kept going back to Settings>About and could see that the ROM was flashed, but the sight of the old files was making me think 'maybe it just reinstalled over the top of the stock ROM without deleting any data'....sort of like when windoze does a repair and keeps the data. Now that i understand user data is stored in a separate place away from the ROM itself, it makes it easier to upgrade and mess around. Backups are important, but it's nice to know you don't have to constantly relocate data and files when you're doing an upgrade.
Thanks for the info.....these forums are an absolute boon for people willing to ask questions and i'm amazed at the knowledge base that's been accumulated and is being shared - for the first time in a long time, tech toys are fun again. Now to choose a Kernel!!!!
The rom gets flashed to it's own partition: /system/...
If you watch the script when flashing CromiX, the installer formats the system partition automatically before flashing the rom. So you did not install over the old rom. The Data partition is different.
I'm now backing up data/media and then I will use the "Format Data" option in TWRP. Wanna know what exactly happens
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Just an update...i haven't changed kernels at all and i'm not going to be. This thing is faster and more stable than i could have wished for. Since the ROM was flashed i've stopped messing around with it and it just runs like a dream. It never reboots unless i tell it to, doesn't hang when i have multiple apps open and the battery life is fantastic.
Thanks for the advice berndblb :good:
2Droidswalking said:
Just an update...i haven't changed kernels at all and i'm not going to be. This thing is faster and more stable than i could have wished for. Since the ROM was flashed i've stopped messing around with it and it just runs like a dream. It never reboots unless i tell it to, doesn't hang when i have multiple apps open and the battery life is fantastic.
Thanks for the advice berndblb :good:
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:GOOD:
Glad I could help.
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