SBC Sense Kernel - EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey do any of you know or know of a working SBC kernel. I know it has caused issues with some people but I have had very good luck on my EVO with it. Seems to me that my battery is suffering pretty bad now that I have rooted and used a new rom.
Thanks.

I'm not entirely sure what an SBC kernel is but i do know there are a couple of tweaked Sense kernels floating around this forum. Iirc, the newSENSE kernel should be stable enough for all 2.1 Sense based ROMs (don't quote me on that though).
What ROM are you currently running? Also, are you on the stock kernel or a custom one?

I think the only SBC kernel is Tiamat.
Shifted from Outer Space

Seagrizzly said:
Hey do any of you know or know of a working SBC kernel. I know it has caused issues with some people but I have had very good luck on my EVO with it. Seems to me that my battery is suffering pretty bad now that I have rooted and used a new rom.
Thanks.
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That I know of there are no SBC Sense Kernels for the Shift. If your having really bad Battery drain, you may want to look at what's going on with your system. You may have a Rogue app, or a bad wake lock. I would definitely check into that. Also if you want to know more about Kernels before you flashing one. You can check the Links below.
Kernel Governors, Modules, I/O Schedulers, CPU Tweaks, AIO App Configs
Android CPU governors explained
sixxt9 said:
I'm not entirely sure what an SBC kernel is but i do know there are a couple of tweaked Sense kernels floating around this forum. Iirc, the newSENSE kernel should be stable enough for all 2.1 Sense based ROMs (don't quote me on that though).
What ROM are you currently running? Also, are you on the stock kernel or a custom one?
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SBC stands for Superior Battery Charging.

Cool I will take a look I was running Supreme Sense and it seems to drain the battery super fast like I can't get a whole day out of it, I will check and see if something strange is going on with it.

Seagrizzly said:
Cool I will take a look I was running Supreme Sense and it seems to drain the battery super fast like I can't get a whole day out of it, I will check and see if something strange is going on with it.
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What does cpu spy show? You can download anytime and it will tell you how long the processor was at a certain speed. Also when running overclocked that will chew up your battery pretty good, the kernel is undervolted to try to improve battery life while holding faster speeds, but it dont always work
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Seagrizzly said:
Cool I will take a look I was running Supreme Sense and it seems to drain the battery super fast like I can't get a whole day out of it, I will check and see if something strange is going on with it.
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Another thing to keep in mind is what Apps you have Syncing, and how often. For example Facedbook is a notorious battery killer. I also run Supreme Sense. On average I get between 12-14hrs out of a charge. As strapped mentioned, being OC'd very high will also eat up the battery. What Governor, and Scheduler are you using?
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11

SBC Kernels = bad. To each his own though lol.
You can follow me on Twitter - @NotSo1nter3stin

notsointeresting said:
SBC Kernels = bad. To each his own though lol.
You can follow me on Twitter - @NotSo1nter3stin
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Ive heard mixed things about SBC, and how they can blow the phone up if its charged to long, or how it degrades the battery. Like you said to each his own though
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Never really had any interest in SBC Kernels. But since this is the fourth post I've seen in about three days. I became interested, in finding out the advantages of SBC Kernels vs Non-SBC Kernels. The only things I've definitively found out are that, SBC Kernels offer more of a chance for problems if you do not know what your doing. The other is that there is a lot of debate as to the advantages of running an SBC Kernel.

WTF is SBC?

VICODAN said:
WTF is SBC?
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SBC stands for Superior Battery Charging. You can check out THIS thread for some info. Also the thread HERE has some more info.
EDIT: Just more info HERE.

I used an SBC kernel on the OG EVO for a bit and found a sight improvement with battery life. But the mentality (after doing lots of reading on SBC) of the damage it could be doing ,I ended up removing it real quick. Just freaked me out.
Some people claim to never have problems and some reports have come for exploding phones. Crazy debates.
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I know what your saying. Huge debates back and forth whether it's worth running it or not. Some people swear by it. Others say stay the he'll away from it. I just flashed an SBC Kernel on the Test EVO4G to see what the deal is. But honestly it better be pretty Freaking awesome. Because running the Loinfish or Anthrax Kernel on the OG EVO easily will get you a day plus on one charge.
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11

BFS
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Dear Prboy,
I'm finding a stock HTC brand new battery is holding up over these white ones.

sparksco said:
BFS
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Budget / Brain Fair Scheduling. I got the information from HERE which is the thread most referenced in my searches.
VICODAN said:
Dear Prboy,
I'm finding a stock HTC brand new battery is holding up over these white ones.
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I'm still having good luck with them. But I did get a $25 gift card for Amazon. Which I'm thinking of using to get THESE from Anker.
EDIT : Thought some might also want to check out THIS THREAD on Kernels. Especially the post HERE on SBC Kernels.

prboy1969 said:
Budget / Brain Fair Scheduling. I got the information from HERE which is the thread most referenced in my searches.
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Um nope! My ICS BFS kernel is not a i/o scheduler at all! It is the default kernel TASK SCHEDULER and it stands for Brain **** Scheduler
http://goo.gl/mPN1i

sparksco said:
Um nope! My ICS BFS kernel is not a i/o scheduler at all! It is the default kernel TASK SCHEDULER and it stands for Brain **** Scheduler
http://goo.gl/mPN1i
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Ok thought you were asking. I did write Brain BTW, and the four astrixs stand for "fair" . But I will be the first to say I am not the most knowledgeable on Kernels. Just trying to share what I do know.
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11

prboy1969 said:
Ok thought you were asking. I did write Brain BTW, and the four astrixs stand for "fair" . But I will be the first to say I am not the most knowledgeable on Kernels. Just trying to share what I do know.
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11
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Oh ok, yeah no I saying bfs is great.
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Related

[KERNEL][28 APR]LorDMod|SMARTASS|BFSv400|CFS|SLQB|UV|1.99GHz|VOL|V DD|SQ LITE3|

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1020637
DON'T USE THE ROM, IT IS OUTDATED AND HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED!
DO NOT USE THE "PUV" (Pinky UnderVolt) VERSION, IT WILL CAUSE YOUR DEVICE TO GET STUCK AT THE SPLASHSCREEN! (POSSIBLY)
I DID NOT MAKE THIS KERNEL, I'M JUST POSTING IT HERE FOR YOU ALL.
THIS IS NOT FOR ANY OTHER ROMS BESIDES CM7 (AND CM7-BASED ROMS) AND MIUI, SO DON'T ASK!
I'm using the UUV CFS version. It is very fast and smooth, I urge you not to have an OC past 1.3GHz as a daily driver, unless you want horrible battery life.
Any option below PUV is safe (UUV, -50mV, and -25mV all work, but every device varies).
i didnt think my phone could ever sh*t itself until i flashed this kernal.
dethpikil said:
i didnt think my phone could ever sh*t itself until i flashed this kernal.
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i logged in just to ask you to decrypt that message. what does that mean? bad kernal?
vln004 said:
i logged in just to ask you to decrypt that message. what does that mean? bad kernal?
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lol, iffy kernal. especially with two versions available, its kinda strange testing them and seeing whats best for your phone. flashed the cfs version, and as expected, things seemed evenly smother throughout the phone, yet even at 1.99, there was nothing special or over the top about performance. also, i had a very strange, completely indescribable hiccup after booting.
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tried the bfs version, and still nothing special. maybe its just me and my miui rom. the 1.99 is cool, but i think im just gunna stay away from this.
Been running his kernels for a couple of weeks, no issues. It is nice to be able to choose from different undervolt versions. Helps battery life a little, around 5%-10% in my experience.
NikolaiT, just FYI this kernel works with Ultimate Droid, which is based on CM7. In case you want to update the OP.
henrybravo said:
NikolaiT, just FYI this kernel works with Ultimate Droid, which is based on CM7. In case you want to update the OP.
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+1. Running 4.2 cfs -25 version on UD now. 4.0 was the best battery life ever on any cm7 based roms. Haven't tried the puv version yet, but rest assured I will try and report results..
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dethpikil said:
lol, iffy kernal. especially with two versions available, its kinda strange testing them and seeing whats best for your phone. flashed the cfs version, and as expected, things seemed evenly smother throughout the phone, yet even at 1.99, there was nothing special or over the top about performance. also, i had a very strange, completely indescribable hiccup after booting.
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tried the bfs version, and still nothing special. maybe its just me and my miui rom. the 1.99 is cool, but i think im just gunna stay away from this.
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Hardly "iffy", the differences are stated in the thread or here.
I've been using this kernel with CM7 Final for quite some time now and it's been quite solid.
rasroygbiv said:
+1. Running 4.2 cfs -25 version on UD now. 4.0 was the best battery life ever on any cm7 based roms. Haven't tried the puv version yet, but rest assured I will try and report results..
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Careful, the PUV version softbricked my device. Easily fixable through reflashing your ROM or just a new kernel.
It may not brick yours because some devices can handle it, some can't.
helushune said:
Hardly "iffy", the differences are stated in the thread or here.
I've been using this kernel with CM7 Final for quite some time now and it's been quite solid.
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+1. Not "iffy" at all.
I've been using it for a while now. At the moment I'm using the latest CFS -25 UV version @ 1305 with the scaling set to Intelligent Donkey (lol) and I actually made it an entire day without charging. That's saying a lot for someone that gets about 12 hours max on a charge.
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I've been using it for a while now. At the moment I'm using the latest CFS -25 UV version @ 1305 with the scaling set to Intelligent Donkey (lol) and I actually made it an entire day without charging. That's saying a lot for someone that gets about 12 hours max on a charge.
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I'm currently pulling two days at 64% with the same kernel but my CPU settings are 122 min - 1075 max.
So what's everyone recommendations for the best version of this Kernel in terms of both optimum battery and performance?
Additionally... what kinds of CPU governors and max-min frequencies are you using? I've seen a few post what their using in this thread, but I'd like to get some more opinions.
I've been using this Kernel for a few weeks now with no issues. The UUV had some slight hesitation when scrolling so now I'm running 4.3 CFS with the -50 UV and it's absolutely perfect. Fantastic battery life running at 122/1305 MHz with the -50 UV.
i'm using 4.2 and I didn't flash any scripts... is the default -25UV? I'm gonna try 4.3 and -50 script later tonight.
quick question to the group: what is eating up your battery? mine, oddly enough is cell standby and phone idle. i'm using stock radio. in the past (on froyo builds), it's always been screen time.
substance12 said:
i'm using 4.2 and I didn't flash any scripts... is the default -25UV? I'm gonna try 4.3 and -50 script later tonight.
quick question to the group: what is eating up your battery? mine, oddly enough is cell standby and phone idle. i'm using stock radio. in the past (on froyo builds), it's always been screen time.
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Default is no undervoltage.
Cell Standby and Phone Idle are my two biggest "battery killers" but that's normal operation.
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+1. Not "iffy" at all.
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maybe all of you missed the whole miui thing. it says it works great with miui, but my phone seemed very buggy after switching from cattleprods kernel, but you tested it on very different roms than me. it addition, my quadrant score were crap on both types, cfs and bfs, which is completely contrary to the description of one over the other. so yes iffy.
Can anyone explain the difference between the scheduler flavors? I use cfs, but bfq or io?
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maybe all of you missed the whole miui thing. it says it works great with miui, but my phone seemed very buggy after switching from cattleprods kernel, but you tested it on very different roms than me. it addition, my quadrant score were crap on both types, cfs and bfs, which is completely contrary to the description of one over the other. so yes iffy.
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I sure did. Pardon.
sugardaddy1979 said:
Can anyone explain the difference between the scheduler flavors? I use cfs, but bfq or io?
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Check these two posts: Post 1, Post 2. Looks like BFQ is the standard scheduler and VIO is quicker on paper (kind of like BFS vs CFS).
Thanks for the explanation. The bfqhs seems much smoother than the io. I am running it with the uuv.

So many Roms/KERNELs

Why are you guys putting out so many roms and kernels, I can hardly get any "real" work done on my phone because I'm too busy testing out every new version of every new rom/kernel that comes out. Come on! I need some sleep to.
Well frankly I prefer a buffet where I can choose what I want rather than being told what to eat.
In Soviet Russia, ROM chooses YOU!
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necosino said:
In Soviet Russia, ROM chooses YOU!
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Haha fantastic !
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ITA!
The myriad of ROMs and kernels have turned me into somewhat of a flash addict.. if I'm not flashing something at least a couple times a day my skin starts itching and I begin to twitch.
nerozehl said:
ITA!
The myriad of ROMs and kernels have turned me into somewhat of a flash addict.. if I'm not flashing something at least a couple times a day my skin starts itching and I begin to twitch.
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Welcome to the brotherhood my fellow crackflashaholic.
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Well since you guys are soo experienced with different kernals let me ask you this question..
I just got my thunderbolt and I wanna root my phone and overclock it safely to 1.6g. So, which kernel would you recommend? BTW I AM A BIT OF A NOOB!! so please try and keep the terms as "noob friendly" as possibly haha. Thanks guys!
leanKernel supports 1.92 and BAMF will do up to 1.4, I believe.
Do you want sense? Run Perfect Storm roms with bamf kernel.
Do you want aosp? Run cyanogen with imoseyon aosp kernel.
Do you want sense removed? Run blackhole with bamf kernel.
OC to 1.92 I don't suggest, my phone locks up at that speed. OC to 1.4 stable.
magicriggs said:
Do you want sense? Run Perfect Storm roms with bamf kernel.
Do you want aosp? Run cyanogen with imoseyon aosp kernel.
Do you want sense removed? Run blackhole with bamf kernel.
OC to 1.92 I don't suggest, my phone locks up at that speed. OC to 1.4 stable.
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I'm stock, rooted, running bang 4.4.5 kernel, and get 24+hrs from my extended battery (a must-have) might be weird, but I like Sense...
OK, so here's a (useful?) question/request to all you ROM addicts (I am not one, unfortunately!):
Is there (it would be nice if there was) a comparison of ALL kernels and ROMs to see which gets the best battery life on their Thunderbolt?
This would, obviously, have to be done by one person trying out different combinations of kernels and ROMs, as everyone has different usage patterns (and different batteries!! --each battery, it seems, behaves differently).
But I think it would be very helpful for many of us folks to have a good, consistent, complete, at least somewhat accurate comparison, as the battery issue seems to be probably the single largest issue affecting the most people with the TB.
Anyone?
Why do you need to overlook to 1.6? For being a noob, that's rather aggressive
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027706
read read read!
noob question - what does s-off mean?
also, what advantages are there to removing sense?
Just a holdover until CM7 is fully working.
squeakyl said:
noob question - what does s-off mean?
also, what advantages are there to removing sense?
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S-off means security is turned off on your phone. This will allow you to install whatever ROM you want to the phone.
ooohhhh
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Just a holdover until CM7 is fully working.
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This i can't wait for!
I might root and then hang by until the CM arrives. Only had my Bolt about 10 days now, and want to see it in action untouched, (but also minus these bad network connections), if CM7 is indeed close i'm going to wait for it.
mg00000 said:
This i can't wait for!
I might root and then hang by until the CM arrives. Only had my Bolt about 10 days now, and want to see it in action untouched, (but also minus these bad network connections), if CM7 is indeed close i'm going to wait for it.
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CM is here. They have some WIFI and 4g problems but other than that the ROM is complete.

[Q] g2x wont run any oc/uv kernels

I have flashed all of the eagles blood Tom's even some other Tom's and they work with the exception. Of the new 1.05 eaglesblood that has Caucasian kernel cooked in. I tried flashing fauxs kernels separately and the only one that works is the stock voltage kernels eveeytime I try to do something that undervolts it wont take when I flash it. Is there any way to fix this or fwt it to work or does my g2x suck? Thanks for any help!
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I have flashed all of the eagles blood Tom's even some other Tom's and they work with the exception. Of the new 1.05 eaglesblood that has Caucasian kernel cooked in. I tried flashing fauxs kernels separately and the only one that works is the stock voltage kernels eveeytime I try to do something that undervolts it wont take when I flash it. Is there any way to fix this or fwt it to work or does my g2x suck? Thanks for any help!
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Tom's...... Lol
Caucasian.... Lmao
More info...what rom you got?what kernel?what you trying to uv by?
G2X
facadewithin said:
I have flashed all of the eagles blood Tom's even some other Tom's and they work with the exception. Of the new 1.05 eaglesblood that has Caucasian kernel cooked in. I tried flashing fauxs kernels separately and the only one that works is the stock voltage kernels eveeytime I try to do something that undervolts it wont take when I flash it. Is there any way to fix this or fwt it to work or does my g2x suck? Thanks for any help!
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umm just turn in your g2x to someone that is qualified to use it.
What is a Caucasian kernel?
That ladies and gentlemen, is signature worthy.
Edit: Forgot to even answer your question amidst all this racial kernel profiling. Your G2x can't handle the OC/UV kernel, nothing you can do about it.
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umm just turn in your g2x to someone that is qualified to use it.
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It's not that he's not qualified. A known issue is that some of the phone's can't support some of the features of other kernels so the phones won't boot. I started a thread about this and Faux chimed in affirming what I thought. It's a fault in the chip. Some can OC/UV, some can't.
Thanks hiko I thought I read something about that but what I don't get now is I flashed the Trinity kernel nd it sees the UV 1.1 in set CPU lol . Ill have to do more testing. As for the Caucasian kernel I blame racist correct lol
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It's not that he's not qualified. A known issue is that some of the phone's can't support some of the features of other kernels so the phones won't boot. I started a thread about this and Faux chimed in affirming what I thought. It's a fault in the chip. Some can OC/UV, some can't.
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Yup. I have this problem. My broken G2x can run custom kernels on Stock. But my replacement G2x can't even get past the boot screen after flashing one. I can't run EB Froyo, and I can't flash faux's kernel unless it's on a Gingerbread ROM. It's pretty lame.
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Yup. I have this problem. My broken G2x can run custom kernels on Stock. But my replacement G2x can't even get past the boot screen after flashing one. I can't run EB Froyo, and I can't flash faux's kernel unless it's on a Gingerbread ROM. It's pretty lame.
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yeah i wonder if getting another one would be any better though. im sure if i complain enough i could get a bvetter one, although the screen bleed on mine is actually pretty low compared to what ive seen so i might just hang on to it not sure
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yeah i wonder if getting another one would be any better though. im sure if i complain enough i could get a bvetter one, although the screen bleed on mine is actually pretty low compared to what ive seen so i might just hang on to it not sure
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If you get a replacement, nothing says you have to keep it. Feel free to send that one back.
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Dear OP. Wish I could help you. I do want to thank you for the laugh. Nothing personal. The typos made me spit out my coffee. It's been a long morning already, so I appreciate humor where I can find it.
As a couple have already said, not all phones are created equal. One of my phones would not OC and UV at the same time. I was able to hit 1300 stable on mine, but my wife, which has an identical setup, had issues at 1100. Faux released an overclock kernel without the undervolting. Have you tried that?
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Dear OP. Wish I could help you. I do want to thank you for the laugh. Nothing personal. The typos made me spit out my coffee. It's been a long morning already, so I appreciate humor where I can find it.
As a couple have already said, not all phones are created equal. One of my phones would not OC and UV at the same time. I was able to hit 1300 stable on mine, but my wife, which has an identical setup, had issues at 1100. Faux released an overclock kernel without the undervolting. Have you tried that?
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I have not as the overclocking was not as big of an issue as undervolting was for me. I cant get a single of fauxs kernels to run etx/GB/FR thats does oc/uv but the stock one does it just fine thats goes 1.0sv/1.2oc. the whole reason why i am confused though is i flashed morfics trinity kernel thats oc/uv at the same rate 1.1uv/1.5oc and it loads perfectly fine on my phone. Setcpu sees the standard at 1.1ghz max on autodetect, howeer i have not tried overclocking to anything more than that as i do not have any experience with making the textfile for setcpu to overclock it manually. im going to work on this soon but im hoping someones already made and posted this elsewhere on xda =D
PS: im on a computer this time and ill say this is better than my blackberry who decided to autocorrect "heterosexual" in place of "hey" everytime i tried talking to one of my friends but glad its good for laughs lol
I've consistently gotten Morfic to work as well. Faux said that Morfic hasn't released his source so he can't compare notes and see what's causing the issue.
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I've consistently gotten Morfic to work as well. Faux said that Morfic hasn't released his source so he can't compare notes and see what's causing the issue.
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i hope he does soon as i would love to try fauxs kernel as i hear more about it than morfics. morfics for now works fanfriggintastic for me though. m g2x ocs to 1400 without any problems at all on morfics however has some stability issues randomly at 1500 and i undervolt it always under 1.1 by 75 and runs perfect. battery life is currently at 60% still after 30hrs of use even after phone calls texts and internet usage. no games or heavy downloads yet though. <3uv and juicedefender

really ticked, need advice..

okay soo i started off loving my tbolt. i ran bamf ginger remix for months without issues. i then changed to aosp and while i prefer it, many bugs and bad battery life are keeping me away.
so i went back to bamf and while i feel at home, i get alot of lag no matter what kernel i use. i need some advice on what to do and what rom is the fastest/lag free with the best kernel combo.
im dying here guys.
as far as setcpu settings i usually use ondemand or interactive no higher than 1228/245.
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okay soo i started off loving my tbolt. i ran bamf ginger remix for months without issues. i then changed to aosp and while i prefer it, many bugs and bad battery life are keeping me away.
so i went back to bamf and while i feel at home, i get alot of lag no matter what kernel i use. i need some advice on what to do and what rom is the fastest/lag free with the best kernel combo.
im dying here guys.
as far as setcpu settings i usually use ondemand or interactive no higher than 1228/245.
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As far as I can tell, the Ziggy kernel in the latest Gingeritis3D is the smoothest. Might be something newer in the synergy ROM, but I'm getting good battery life and things are nearly lag-free.
I am running OMFGB right now, and while I do prefer AOSP roms, the battery life isn't great. I have an extended battery so the battery life for me isn't an issue.
I agree with the previous post in regards to Gingeritis 3D. I had version VII installed, deleted almost all sense out with Tibu and used ADW EX. It was nice having some sense, lockscreen, pulldown, but that was all I really liked about sense. I oc'd to 1.4 and thought it ran great with excellent battery life.
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I haven't messed with uberBAMF yet. I understand it's a work in progess. I'm not sure what kernel it uses, but it might be worth giving a go. I'd love to think it's NOT a Ziggy or Imoseyon kernel just because I think Sense kernels NEED a LOT more attention.
im going to stick to bamf ginger remix until the theory 1.3x rom goes final. the newest ziggy kernel in synergy isn't very good imo, very laggy. i just extracted the gingeritis one and it's a kernel build from july, it's one of the better ziggy kernels. you know, the one from my thread that was removed. ill stick to it for the time being.
i just wish there were more stable aosp roms. no offense to cm7 or the devs, it's just not 100% yet and the battery life is ****, at least for me.
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im going to stick to bamf ginger remix until the theory 1.3x rom goes final. the newest ziggy kernel in synergy isn't very good imo, very laggy. i just extracted the gingeritis one and it's a kernel build from july, it's one of the better ziggy kernels. you know, the one from my thread that was removed. ill stick to it for the time being.
i just wish there were more stable aosp roms. no offense to cm7 or the devs, it's just not 100% yet and the battery life is ****, at least for me.
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The Ziggy's in Gingeritis3D is different than the Ziggy's in the older Gingeritis. The clock settings and smartass parameters are different. I think part of the reason that Ziggy kernel is as lagy as it is sometimes is because of his smartass governor parameters. I think if they were tweaked to be a little less stingy the phone might be much snappier. As it is, that kernel seems VERY reluctant to creep past 1 GHz, like the load requirement for stepping up is fairly high. I think it's ramp down is just a little too aggressive, and the period of load polling too long as well.
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The Ziggy's in Gingeritis3D is different than the Ziggy's in the older Gingeritis. The clock settings and smartass parameters are different. I think part of the reason that Ziggy kernel is as lagy as it is sometimes is because of his smartass governor parameters. I think if they were tweaked to be a little less stingy the phone might be much snappier. As it is, that kernel seems VERY reluctant to creep past 1 GHz, like the load requirement for stepping up is fairly high. I think it's ramp down is just a little too aggressive, and the period of load polling too long as well.
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i meant i pulled it from gingeritis3d. that's the kernel your running, it's the one i posted last month.
fixxxer2008 said:
i meant i pulled it from gingeritis3d. that's the kernel your running, it's the one i posted last month.
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You sure? This one just seems smoother.
loonatik78 said:
You sure? This one just seems smoother.
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almost 100%
fixxxer2008 said:
almost 100%
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I'm not sure it is. I know that one didn't go up to 2GHz. It's definitely a similar build. The up_threshold on the smartass on that one you extracted seemed even more aggressive than this one. I had issues typing with it if I set the min_freq too low. I run this one at 122MHz without a problem.
Edit: Actually, I'm sure it's not. The one you extracted didn't have the camera fix for the new base Chingy used for beta 6 and 7.
loonatik78 said:
I'm not sure it is. I know that one didn't go up to 2GHz. It's definitely a similar build. The up_threshold on the smartass on that one you extracted seemed even more aggressive than this one. I had issues typing with it if I set the min_freq too low. I run this one at 122MHz without a problem.
Edit: Actually, I'm sure it's not. The one you extracted didn't have the camera fix for the new base Chingy used for beta 6 and 7.
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its from the same build date. its possible some other tweaks were added though. anyways im still open for suggestions guys.
fixxxer2008 said:
its from the same build date. its possible some other tweaks were added though. anyways im still open for suggestions guys.
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Wouldn't be surprised knowing how he works.
I would recommend trying the uber bamf preview 3. I tested out preview 1 and it was by far the smoothest feeling ROM I've used and it also gave me the greatest battery life I've ever had on my Thunderbolt. They've fixed a few bugs since preview 1 so I'm sure it's even better now. It includes a stock kernel by the way.
You may also want to try the latest nightly Synergy ROM, it's what I'm on now. Performance has been pretty good and battery is okay. I have SetCPU at 1344/245 with lagfree.
DRGilroy said:
I would recommend trying the uber bamf preview 3. I tested out preview 1 and it was by far the smoothest feeling ROM I've used and it also gave me the greatest battery life I've ever had on my Thunderbolt. They've fixed a few bugs since preview 1 so I'm sure it's even better now. It includes a stock kernel by the way.
You may also want to try the latest nightly Synergy ROM, it's what I'm on now. Performance has been pretty good and battery is okay. I have SetCPU at 1344/245 with lagfree.
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not a huge fan of synergy, i may give uber a whirl.
Go back to the stock released ROM (rooted, if you prefer to make things easier). That should be the baseline for everything.
mike.s said:
Go back to the stock released ROM (rooted, if you prefer to make things easier). That should be the baseline for everything.
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naw... not into stock roms much but thanks.
fixxxer2008 said:
not a huge fan of synergy, i may give uber a whirl.
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To make things a little easier for you...
uber-BAMF
fixxxer2008 said:
naw... not into stock roms much but thanks.
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Then quit'yer'*****in. Throw a bunch of modified stuff into the mix, and you get what you pay for.
mike.s said:
Then quit'yer'*****in. Throw a bunch of modified stuff into the mix, and you get what you pay for.
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WTF? You for real?
fixxxer2008 said:
okay soo i started off loving my tbolt. i ran bamf ginger remix for months without issues. i then changed to aosp and while i prefer it, many bugs and bad battery life are keeping me away.
so i went back to bamf and while i feel at home, i get alot of lag no matter what kernel i use. i need some advice on what to do and what rom is the fastest/lag free with the best kernel combo.
im dying here guys.
as far as setcpu settings i usually use ondemand or interactive no higher than 1228/245.
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Something is happening here, but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones?

Faux Kernel or Trinity Kernel CM7

Currently on CM7 nightly 199, wondering which kernel I should use.. Has anyone here tried both?
Have you read teh last 5-10 ish pages from each kernel? Theres your feedback. All the phones are a little different, you have to try them out and see how they work for your phone.
bmann_420 said:
Have you read teh last 5-10 ish pages from each kernel? Theres your feedback. All the phones are a little different, you have to try them out and see how they work for your phone.
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Really man? You make it sound like this guy is wrong for wanting a little feedback.
hesher said:
Currently on CM7 nightly 199, wondering which kernel I should use.. Has anyone here tried both?
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I've tried both and on CM7 Nightly 199, I prefer morfic's Trinity kernel. For a while he didn't have the SOD patch like faux123 did, but now that he does I'm back on his kernel. I use the ELP kernel and I like his philosophy of "less is more".
Plus his kernels have CM7 CPU settings support, which I like since I prefer not to use 3rd party CPU apps, though I am currently enjoying Pimp My CPU a lot with all of its updates.
Thanks for the insight! I think I might flash Trinity. Is battery life better/the same as stock? I definetly dont wanna flash if its gonna be worse.
hesher said:
Thanks for the insight! I think I might flash Trinity. Is battery life better/the same as stock? I definetly dont wanna flash if its gonna be worse.
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I believe both Trinity and faux123's kernel give better battery life, though I've never stayed with the CM7 kernel very long to know to what extent.
I have to agree with all the others. Both kernels tend to give slightly better performance with better battery life. I tend to lean more towards the Trinity kernel because the CPU adjustments can be modified through the CM settings.
I only say that for issues that crop up with people who post on that thread, and have not read this thread. I wasn't being mean or anything, you can get opinions here for sure, you can just view more detailed bugs or current issues on the thread itself. Maybe I was a little short, in wich I'm sorry... but I have tried both and my opinions will differ most likely in comparison to the way his phone will react to each kernel.
Wasn't trying to come off as an ass =) sorry if i did. that's just what I do to view day to day current updates/bugs.
But I can say I used to use trinity t11 that worked wonderfully, then I had issues and bugs on the new ones (t15 and betas) so now I'm on faux's ds version and I get a good battery life now.
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Faux, voodoo sound keeps me from leaving.
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Wasn't trying to come off as an ass =) sorry if i did. that's just what I do to view day to day current updates/bugs.
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You're good man, no worries.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
Faux, voodoo sound keeps me from leaving.
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That's true, if you want voodoo sound, stick with faux123's kernel. If you look at morfic's thread though, it's probably coming back to his fairly soon thanks to supercurio.

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