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Hi,
This could possibly be the dumbest question you've ever heard asked, but.....
I work for a UK based company and one of our members of staff is on a long-term contract in the US - based in New York, looking for new business etc... She has a Touch Pro device - on a UK contract with a data package - that she uses to make calls, send/receive email (via our Exchange server in the UK) and is very concerned about the size of the phone bills she's been generating!!!
My question is this: can she buy a contract SIM from a US provider to use in the Touch Pro, or will she need to get a CDMA-type phone - whatever she ends up with, will need to talk to our Exchange server in the UK
I have no idea as to what options are available - and also which option is the most cost-effective. I know we're gonna get shafted on the data charges whichever way we go, but hopefully the phone calls to US numbers from a US phone will be considerably cheaper as they won't be classed as roaming.
Any suggestions you guys may have would be most welcome; I'm relying on the expertise of the XDA members in the US
Thanks in advance - and apologies again for the dumb question!
Mark.
Mark Crouch said:
Hi,
This could possibly be the dumbest question you've ever heard asked, but.....
I work for a UK based company and one of our members of staff is on a long-term contract in the US - based in New York, looking for new business etc... She has a Touch Pro device - on a UK contract with a data package - that she uses to make calls, send/receive email (via our Exchange server in the UK) and is very concerned about the size of the phone bills she's been generating!!!
My question is this: can she buy a contract SIM from a US provider to use in the Touch Pro, or will she need to get a CDMA-type phone - whatever she ends up with, will need to talk to our Exchange server in the UK
I have no idea as to what options are available - and also which option is the most cost-effective. I know we're gonna get shafted on the data charges whichever way we go, but hopefully the phone calls to US numbers from a US phone will be considerably cheaper as they won't be classed as roaming.
Any suggestions you guys may have would be most welcome; I'm relying on the expertise of the XDA members in the US
Thanks in advance - and apologies again for the dumb question!
Mark.
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Let me be the first to say there are no stupid questions....just stupid people who ask them....LOL and just kidding. Actually your thinking is right on track. If she has sim version of the Pro 2 then she can go ahead and get either t-mobile or AT&T. Either way when she leaves she will be required to pay an early termination fee. The package for AT&T completely unlimited is $99.00 but don't hold me to it. Also if she is using the UK version, no 3G for her, unfortunately, but if you read those who have the blackstone here in the US then you will see that Edge seems good enough for them. One more thing to consider is if she is in New York City, is all the wifi hotspots available. Those along with her unlimited plan should get her through the mess. T-mobile is the next option, but I don't use their service so no dice on that one.
Tell her to go to an AT&T store and also a T-mobile and find out what she can from each and then make a decision based on what her needs are.
I hope this helped a little.
Thanks for that - I'll take a look at the AT&T site and see what options are available for her. Looks like the phone/data are separate packages, but that's no problem; whatever she ends up with will be less than the last two bills we've had (about $1500USD a month ). Even the termination fee is "only" $175, so that won't hurt too much
Hey, thanks for the tip about the wi-fi - hadn't even considered that!! Are there a lot of AT&T wi-fi hotspots in the NYC area or is there just a lot of wi-fi generally (I ask because the AT&T data plans I've seen so far include access to their own hotspots).
Certainly some food for thought - I'll go away and digest it all
Many thanks,
Mark.
Mark Crouch said:
Thanks for that - I'll take a look at the AT&T site and see what options are available for her. Looks like the phone/data are separate packages, but that's no problem; whatever she ends up with will be less than the last two bills we've had (about $1500USD a month ). Even the termination fee is "only" $175, so that won't hurt too much
Hey, thanks for the tip about the wi-fi - hadn't even considered that!! Are there a lot of AT&T wi-fi hotspots in the NYC area or is there just a lot of wi-fi generally (I ask because the AT&T data plans I've seen so far include access to their own hotspots).
Certainly some food for thought - I'll go away and digest it all
Many thanks,
Mark.
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The touch pro in the US is called the Fuze, it is the only GSM Touch Pro available. Both US Touch Pros are CDMA ( Verizon and Sprint ). But since the hardware is the same I am sure that a european TP will work just fine on the AT$T network with an AT$T sim.
The unlimited calling package is $ 99/mo and the data package ( internet email, weather, MMS ....) is $30. Of course international calls are always extra. ( called Aruba last week to the tune of $12.50 for 15 min )
So $129 for unlimited calls, texts, and data to @4GB /mo.
You can also cut down the minutes package and save more considering all unused minutes from one month " rollover " into the next month. Nights and weekends are free and AT$T to AT$T calls are free.
Here is my package for 4 phones. TilT, iPhone, LG Vu and Samsung Propel.
59.99 +9.99+9.99+9.99= $86 for 900 shared minutes ( the kids rarely talk, just text, so we always have a good pile of rollover minutes left just in case someone gets " chatty " one month.
Data Tilt-30 ; iPhone-30 =$60 Unlimited Texts on all four phones = $30
So $ 176 for four phones, not bad I think ? ( better deals welcome )
Since you are not subsidizing the phone, no contract, no early termination fee. Hope this helps
OK, I think we're getting close......
Thanks for the responses; I think we're now armed with all the facts
I think she's been told to go to an AT&T store and get something sorted. Only problem (?) now is that she's decided she doesn't want the Touch Pro any more, so she'll be looking to get a new handset through AT&T too (our UK sales people had TP's, but hated them and now have the HTC Snap - think that's the way she wants to go too!!).
Cheers,
Mark.
http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-support/index?page=home&cat=DATA_CHANGES
Changes to Mobile Internet fair use policies
T-Mobile is the only operator to give customers the Mobile Internet for a fixed-price. We never charge our customer's more than they expect for their Mobile Internet in the UK.
Therefore you'll never need to worry about how many emails you've sent, how long you've been on-line or the ‘data / GB’s’
Browsing means looking at websites and checking email, but not watching videos, downloading files or playing games. We’ve got a fair use policy but ours means that you'll always be able to browse the internet, it’s only when you go over the fair use amount that you won’t be able to download, stream and watch video clips.
So Whats Changing? - From 1st February 2011 we will be aligning our fair use policies so our mobile internet service will have fair use of 500MB.
What Does This Mean? - We’ll always let you email and browse the internet and you’ll never pay more than you agree to. We do have a fair use policy but ours is there to make sure we deliver the best service possible to all our customers. This means that you’ll always be able to browse the internet.
So remember our Mobile Broadband and internet on your phone service is best used for browsing which means looking at your favorite websites like Facebook, Twitter, Gmail, BBC News and more, checking your email and looking for information, but not watching videos or downloading files.
If you want to download, stream and watch video clips, save that stuff for your home broadband.
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It looks like T-Mobile UK decided that their new year's resolution would be to get rid of all of their customers...
I Don't get it. A lot of these streaming services have fee's attached to them which i understand. What I don't understand is why double charge for the service and the connection.
I think that it would be harmful to all the companies that thrive from these types of use. The only way I would justify this is if we away with the high cost of talk plans. I do not want to be forced into some overpriced talk plan when I do most of my talking via the web.
in before xda hacks a way around it.
Only a tiny percentage of mobile phone customers use more than 500MB a month.
Rather than cut off internet access completely, they'll still allow web and email, just no heavy use types.
Tarriffs seem completely different in the US from what people have posted too.
Over here it's normal if you're on a contract to always pay just the contract fee, due to the free minutes/texts/internet included.
The knack is to work out how much you use, how much that would cost, and pick a tarriff which costs less but gives you the same use.
All operators are bringing in or have brought in a 500MB a month AUP, they'd be crazy not to as any network that doesn't will be swamped by all the heavy users.
Meanwhile all the low and medium users will benefit through the freed up bandwitdh.
So what about all these new so called services. I mean this isnt just one company its all of them.
How can att support the atrix and data. While docked it uses a full web browser. Thats gotta consume way more data.
3 UK has done the opposite. I have the carrier and I have been happy with their plans. I brought my Nexus One from the US (ATT Bands) and have happily been using unlimited skype, 2gb data, 300 mins, 3000 txt and more for only £15 / mo with monthly contracts.
T-Mobile almost got my business with the 3GB plan, but wanted me to buy an android device from them to qualify for it!
Well that sucks. Are there bigger (more expensive) plans available?
All the cheap prepaid carriers here in Germany are offering 5GB, which seems to be becoming the norm. I figured the rest of the world would be following suit...?
This is completely removing the reason I joined T-Mobile in the first place.
T-Mobile are turning my smartphone dumb!
T-Moblie have always had terrible customer support, and this has just tipped me over the edge. They're losing me as a customer.
T-Mobiles Internet cap
Guys does this cap effect Recent T-Mobile plans only?
I'm asking because I've had my Unlimited Data, Internet package with T-Mobile for over 8 Months now ...
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raziel123 said:
Guys does this cap effect Recent T-Mobile plans only?
I'm asking because I've had my Unlimited Data, Internet package with T-Mobile for over 8 Months now ...
regards
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HI M8t
Just got off the phone with T-Mobile, and it is affecting me too, Damn them
Are on a Unlimited Data, Internet package with T-Mobile and so think it affects u 2 m8t.
Asked how they can do this because we do have a "contract" with amount and time duration of the contract, but they say as long as they give "us" 30 days notice they can do anything, but still we can not just give them "30 days" notice. Will leave them as soon as i can!
And don't you think they gave me the **** excuse that this was to free up bandwidth! Told the to stop this B$%**** excuse and upgrade there infrastructure instead!!
I'm positive that if they change the usage policy for ALL customers.
You are entitled to cancel your 'contract' as they will have breached the one that was signed by you.
My phone bill with them is £275, and if they try and cap my data, I'll be cancelled by the 2nd Feb!
xaccers said:
Only a tiny percentage of mobile phone customers use more than 500MB a month.
Rather than cut off internet access completely, they'll still allow web and email, just no heavy use types.
Tarriffs seem completely different in the US from what people have posted too.
Over here it's normal if you're on a contract to always pay just the contract fee, due to the free minutes/texts/internet included.
The knack is to work out how much you use, how much that would cost, and pick a tarriff which costs less but gives you the same use.
All operators are bringing in or have brought in a 500MB a month AUP, they'd be crazy not to as any network that doesn't will be swamped by all the heavy users.
Meanwhile all the low and medium users will benefit through the freed up bandwitdh.
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All good and well, But it is rather Dubious to claim that you were offering an Unlimited internet package and then claim to restrict it using a 500 MB per month "Fair Use Policy" ... which incidently was not amentioned or stated in the terms and conditions ...
clearly the T-Mobile numpties tried to consume more than they can physically swallow ...
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unubtanium said:
HI M8t
Just got off the phone with T-Mobile, and it is affecting me too, Damn them
Are on a Unlimited Data, Internet package with T-Mobile and so think it affects u 2 m8t.
Asked how they can do this because we do have a "contract" with amount and time duration of the contract, but they say as long as they give "us" 30 days notice they can do anything, but still we can not just give them "30 days" notice. Will leave them as soon as i can!
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Thanks mate,
I'm gonna have words with them, I'll see what happens when they get my 30 Days Notice ...
long as they us 30 Days Notice, they can change any terms and conditions?
regards
Raz
raziel123 said:
All good and well, But it is rather Dubious to claim that you were offering an Unlimited internet package and then claim to restrict it using a 500 MB per month "Fair Use Policy" ... which incidently was not amentioned or stated in the terms and conditions ...
clearly the T-Mobile numpties tried to consume more than they can physically swallow ...
regards
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Remember your contract (you did read it didn't you?), it will say that they're able to change the terms and should also say you're able you cancel because of the change.
Many companies have had their knuckles wrapped because while stating unlimited they've imposed (in many cases hidden) limits, so in response they're now making the limits public.
Don't like it? Check your contract for the get out clause and tell them you're off, just don't expect them to be sorry to see you go.
This was the only reason I put up with their crappy network coverage. I do hope I'm able to cancel.
Slogan change?
Life's for sharing ... as long as it's not via videos or pictures
or
Life's for sharing ... just do it on somebody else's network, not ours
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zytron said:
Slogan change?
Life's for sharing ... as long as it's not via videos or pictures
or
Life's for sharing ... just do it on somebody else's network, not ours
Sent from my dragon 32
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LOL.........
Life's for sharing ..... but use your home broadband for that stuff.
Been with T-Mob 8 years, I prob don't use that much data, but I'm still leaving them for being underhand. I signed an unlimited data plan so they can kiss my ass goodbye...
I'll be sending them a letter to cancel my contract and then cancelling my direct debit...!
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Remember your contract (you did read it didn't you?), it will say that they're able to change the terms and should also say you're able you cancel because of the change.
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Just chatted with my friend(assistant manager at t-mobile shop) and hi mentioned that you can not cancel a contract because of them changing the terms.
Or is my friend wrong?? Please say so, so i can cancel my contract!
I seen a article in Yahoo news that looks like AT&T maybe trying to move ahead with Shared data plans . I for one would love it!!!
Here is the screen shot that was supposedly AT&T system does anyone know how true this is?
But anyways Im hoping.
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/23142_large_tlgatteng8374a1.jpg
u921333 said:
I seen a article in Yahoo news that looks like AT&T maybe trying to move ahead with Shared data plans . I for one would love it!!!
Here is the screen shot that was supposedly AT&T system does anyone know how true this is?
But anyways Im hoping.
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/23142_large_tlgatteng8374a1.jpg
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this would make sense, other idea would be to have roll-over-data, just hoping
I had heard this rumor a while back but nothing else up until now. Thanks. I would love this too.
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It makes sense for the end user, but not the company. They'll lose profits if they allow shared data. I for one would love to see it happen though.
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It makes sense for the end user, but not the company. They'll lose profits if they allow shared data. I for one would love to see it happen though.
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LOL ..... well we havent seen a pricing structure yet maybe rediculously priced.
Anxiously waiting for some of those details to leak
In one sense, it does make some sense for the company. Lots of people are getting both tablets and phones. If they can share a data plan between them, it might spur sales of a tablet. I know a lot of people who would not get a second device because they don't want that second data plan. I was one of those that didn't want the second data plan. So I got a wifi-only tablet and tethering on my phone. But, from an ATT perspective, they might come out ahead if they used their fast LTE for the small screens of phones and let folks use the older Edge and 3G for their tablets at a decreased price because it spreads their data load.
I work for Att, and I know its going to half and half. Good cuz now you can have one set price bad cuz you need to think about what if lil Johnny uses up all my data... What do I do, oh I know get hit with overcharge... Att is about to make bank. Wait. And see.gghf
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I'm a member of a private site that pays people to take marketing surveys and just completed one about ATTs data proposed sharing plan. So it will most likely be coming in the near future.
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I work for Att, and I know its going to half and half. Good cuz now you can have one set price bad cuz you need to think about what if lil Johnny uses up all my data... What do I do, oh I know get hit with overcharge... Att is about to make bank. Wait. And see.gghf
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I smack lil Johnny around a little and give him my old nokia laying around first time it happens lol.
I use around 3 gig tops on 4 smartphone lines combined. So Im hoping they will go with at least a 5 gig tier so that I have a little room for oops.
We were talking about that this morning. I can't imagine what kind of data my son would use if i let him turn on data. That 10yr old is a dloading fool
tacotino said:
I work for Att, and I know its going to half and half. Good cuz now you can have one set price bad cuz you need to think about what if lil Johnny uses up all my data... What do I do, oh I know get hit with overcharge... Att is about to make bank. Wait. And see.gghf
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Verizon announced shared data beginning June 28th, AT&T will probably follow suit shortly.
verizon_share_everything_plan_details.pdf
Compared VZW's plans with my current AT&T plan (FT w/ 3 devices) and it's within about $5 of what I'm paying now.
+ is tethering on all devices without paying for the top tier.
- is overages are $15 / GB.
Verizon's new share everything plan is everything I was afraid of. Instead if choice they force the customers hand into buying a service they don't want. I'm on AT&T and I look forward to see what they offer, but if it is similar I won't be saving money, I'll be paying more while getting less data, more minutes than I use and more texts than I need. This is the perfect plan for the top tier users but for the average joe this is a slap in the face.
Saw this on Verizon's shared data plans:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-data-plans-go-live-june-28/
If I'm reading that right, you pay a base of $50 for the lowest tier, plus $40 per smartphone. That seems to me to be more than I'm paying now for a total of 4GB on 2 phones plus a dumb phone ($70 base + $80 for smartphones + $30 for the dumb phone = $180 + tax). Maybe not a lot more, but more nonetheless.
If there is a similar price point for the AT&T plans, I may consider it based on whatever my average data is, but that remains to be seen. I'm guessing with Verizon's announcement that we'll see something soon.
liquidzoo said:
Saw this on Verizon's shared data plans:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-data-plans-go-live-june-28/
If I'm reading that right, you pay a base of $50 for the lowest tier, plus $40 per smartphone. That seems to me to be more than I'm paying now for a total of 4GB on 2 phones plus a dumb phone ($70 base + $80 for smartphones + $30 for the dumb phone = $180 + tax). Maybe not a lot more, but more nonetheless.
If there is a similar price point for the AT&T plans, I may consider it based on whatever my average data is, but that remains to be seen. I'm guessing with Verizon's announcement that we'll see something soon.
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I have something similar on att, base plan at $80, with two smart phones at unlimited data and texts and 1200 minutes to share, the base plan has a dumb phone with unlimited data and texts as well
So 80+9+9+30+30, and don't forget about rolling over unsed minutes.
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... Instead if choice they force the customers hand into buying a service they don't want...
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I'm certain AT&T will do something similar. That's how they have things setup for texting now, either pay $20/month for unlimited or $.20/message and get 100 messages for the same $20, nothing in between like $10 for 500 messages, etc.
The statement that VZW is making is that minutes and texts no longer matter, they are commodity features now. The cash cow is data, which is why they bumped their data overage from $10/GB to $15/GB.
I would probably switch to a shared plan, currently have 3 phones with 3GB, 3GB, and 4GB+tether and it would be nice for me to be able to use the balance of the 2 3GB plans in a month that I do a lot of tethering.
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I'm certain AT&T will do something similar. That's how they have things setup for texting now, either pay $20/month for unlimited or $.20/message and get 100 messages for the same $20, nothing in between like $10 for 500 messages, etc.
The statement that VZW is making is that minutes and texts no longer matter, they are commodity features now. The cash cow is data, which is why they bumped their data overage from $10/GB to $15/GB.
I would probably switch to a shared plan, currently have 3 phones with 3GB, 3GB, and 4GB+tether and it would be nice for me to be able to use the balance of the 2 3GB plans in a month that I do a lot of tethering.
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Another reason why USA is slowly but steadily falling behind other developed countries. What ATT and VZW just did was overpaid for spectrum knowing that there is no true competition and they can charge whatever they want. Now they will have customers pay by the teeth for data.
The end game is that everyone else but the cellular provider loses. Customers pay more so they will buy less cellular equipment and use less. I for one will let go my personal cell phone and use company phone only. Fewer people will buy data enabled tablets. This impacts a whole slew of downstream app develops providers etc as well.
A family data share option would be great if they do it like their other plans.. offer several different size family packages like ex.
1. 2gb family
2. 3 gb family
3. 4 gb family
4. 5 gb family and so on until
5. Unlimited. And be truley unlimited family...
And if you should so choose option 1-4 let the unused balance roll over to the next month. If a company would offer this, data plans taylored to the customers needs and wants. Why have these big companies like att got away from giving their customers what they actually want and giving them what they pay for..
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AT&T announces Mobile Share: www.att.com/mobileshare
Surprisingly similar to VZW's offering.
I wonder how AT&T is going to handle discounts with the new plans. Previously only certain thing were discounted with my corp premier discount. Either way, this looks a bit more expensive for my situation.
I have 4 lines. One smart phone (unlimited data(don't really use more then 5 gigs)) and 3 dumb phones (2 of which don't have data). For the same price I'm paying now I could have data on all my lines with unlimited talk (already have unlimited txt). I'll be looking into it for sure. Just cause they offer it doesn't mean its for you or you need it or that they are "forcing" it on you.
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Hi All
I am now due an upgrade on my Desire, and was going to go for the HTC One S. O2 however want £36 a month, for 600 minutes, 1gd data and unlimited texts, so i was wondering what people are paying for it over here?
Cheers
Go to the vodafone eforum and do it that way you get much better deals! Or just contact them through twitter just look for vodafone UK deals
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Go to mobiles(.)co(.)uk, chose HTC One S -> T-Mobile -> Show All and you can find this deal:
Line Rental £26.00 monthly with cashback(7 Months Free) Includes 750MB data allowance , 300 Minutes , Unlimited Texts
Plus you can get an extra £60 cashback if you go to quidco(.)com, register, search for mobiles(.)co(.)uk, click on the link and complete your order.
All that will bring your average cost per month down to £15.92 with a free phone, 300 mins, unlimited texts and 750mb of data
phones4u is currently doing £27 24month contract on O2, 300mins, 500Mb data, also doing £26 24 month on vodafone 300mins, 500Mb data. But phone free, and SIM free, unbranded as I was told yesterday when I was in one of their shops playing around the one s. (oh yes, the deals only available online but I think that's better cos you have the 14days cooling period which in store you don't get it)
I am planning to get the o2 deal since always on o2 but just waiting to decide which colour to go for... just cannot decide...
i really need 1gb of data! i am going for the grey, just to get away from the black ones chipping whilst those phones are still in circulation!
Cheers all.
Three are by far the best. Just changed to them and their signal and 3G speed is great! When tethered to my PC using wifi and the three networks 3G on speed test I get 56ping, 8/9mb Download, 2.5mb upload.
The deal I went for was Unlimited Data, 1000mins, 5000 texts for £33 a month with £60 credit spread over 3rd and 4th bill.
3 have come a long way...
I used to hate them, They where horribly branded, and removing the simlock was almost impossible, compared to other networks.
But they are at the top for smartphone deals, The internet deals they offer + the speed is almost unbeatable.
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3 have come a long way...
I used to hate them, They where horribly branded, and removing the simlock was almost impossible, compared to other networks.
But they are at the top for smartphone deals, The internet deals they offer + the speed is almost unbeatable.
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I totally. I remmember their first proprietary handsets and they were nasty cheap plastic... Do you remember those £11 3 phones from Savers? The advertising used to get right on my nerves too, and the support was aweful. I came back to them in 2010 for the One Plan and haven't been more impressed with a carrier since.
Support is also top notch, never have to wait in a queue and like you say, the speeds are the best around...
I don't want to sound like I'm advertising them, but they really have turned a new leaf in terms of service and reliability.. As well as the fact they don't put their fugly logo on every phone I buy anymore
Have been with ThreeUK for 4 years, had to cancel my contract this month, as I moved to a new place and don't have any signal indoors what-so-ever. I also found their customer support very useless to help me solve my problem, but had no problems in past to get a good deal for upgrade.
Now I'm with T-mo and my phone arriving tomorrow
nozzla said:
Hi All
I am now due an upgrade on my Desire, and was going to go for the HTC One S. O2 however want £36 a month, for 600 minutes, 1gd data and unlimited texts, so i was wondering what people are paying for it over here?
Cheers
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I'm on that tariff but I pay £32 a month as I've been an O2 customer a while so I got 1gb for the price of 500mb (£6). They also threw in 50mms messages a month. I also get 500 o2 to o2 minutes and since almost all of my friends and family are on o2 it works out well. If you've been with them a while give them a call and see what they say. 2 years ago I had a similar situation and I just asked and got 2 extras just like that (unlimited o2 to o2 calls and 500mb bolt on, both for free). If not that 3 deal that someone mentioned for £33 seems like a steal. Phone was free on o2 btw.
ccart said:
I'm on that tariff but I pay £32 a month as I've been an O2 customer a while so I got 1gb for the price of 500mb (£6). They also threw in 50mms messages a month. I also get 500 o2 to o2 minutes and since almost all of my friends and family are on o2 it works out well. If you've been with them a while give them a call and see what they say. 2 years ago I had a similar situation and I just asked and got 2 extras just like that (unlimited o2 to o2 calls and 500mb bolt on, both for free). If not that 3 deal that someone mentioned for £33 seems like a steal. Phone was free on o2 btw.
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I've been with O2 for 12 years on the same number and they will offer me nothing!!
I might just for the ease go with O2. or i will buy the phone and get a giffgaff sim card!
nozzla said:
I've been with O2 for 12 years on the same number and they will offer me nothing!!
I might just for the ease go with O2. or i will buy the phone and get a giffgaff sim card!
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Wow thats shocking! I've only been with them 5 years and even then this is the most expensive tariff I've ever taken out with them...usually I was a SIM only customer (£15 a month). I go on their live chat thing and ask what are my options are and I usually get someone saying 'well since you've been with us a while' etc etc. Maybe try your luck and say you've been with them 12 years and you want this phone but that tariff is too expensive and competitors are cheaper and you may have to leave. They seem to value customers so could offer you a loyalty discount (and yes they do this cause my account has a bolt on thingy saying 'Loyalty Discount, -£4'). I have half a mine to ask them to knock another few ££ off for those 50mms messages cause they will NEVER get used lol.
If you have been with your provider for quite a while, then try and call their cancellation line and request your PAC code, they will offer you a really good deal just to keep you with them, but if you deny all their offers and go away with the PAC code, wait for another call... with the best deal possible
got pac code. no further calls. sod them! i've gone with the Three UK deal. 500 minutes, unlimited data and texts. £32 a month. O2 have disappointed me to say the least!
EDIT: Thanks for all your advice!
Why no one commented on the deal that I found?
Is it because of T-Mobile or 300 minutes is not enough?
I have never used T-Mo, so I'm curious a little bit now
I'm on Orange panther 31. As it suggests, £31 with 400 mins, unlimited texts and 750mb data though CPW. Also includes free sky sports on the phone and another one of those swappable things.
I also get 15% loyalty discount for staying with them so works out at £26 odd coupled with roaming data access to T-Mobile I'm very rarely without H connection.
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whats this roaming data ?? How do you use tmobile when your with orange ?
Id like to know more about this, because with vodafone the 3g signal is non existent where i live, But tmobile have excellent 3g signal (my GF is with them)
Basically, if you're on Orange (my carrier) or T Mobile you can use either network for phone and data. Mine seems to spend more time on T Mobile than Orange but either way, coverage is great it automatically picks the best one I think.
You also can manually move to either via network selection if you prefer.
Plus orange do that loyalty discount too.
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I personaly dont understand, why u all look for "carrier" phones with monthly payment...
Isnt there any "local" internet shops (similar to ebay/amazon) where you can buy? Here there is planty of them! Choose the one u like or the price u like and go ahead!
You can see some of search results here "http://www.salidzini.lv/search.php?q=htc+one" But ofc, these shops dont send outside Latvia, so its not option for thread author
cookpass said:
Basically, if you're on Orange (my carrier) or T Mobile you can use either network for phone and data. Mine seems to spend more time on T Mobile than Orange but either way, coverage is great it automatically picks the best one I think.
You also can manually move to either via network selection if you prefer.
Plus orange do that loyalty discount too.
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Ohhh i know what you mean now, Orange and Tmobile joined up last year..
I just thought you mean, if you internet connection is crap you could use someone else network lol
Like I (vodafone) could use... say 3 UK network when my 3g network fails.... haha that would be impressive
I probably won't be around much after the next few days (I get my phone tomorrow) until the note 3 boards open up, so feel free as well to ask any questions if I haven't mentioned something. Also, I got back to work today after having tomorrow off and the phone will go on sale in stores Saturday. In our training video they had a massive back to the future type reference in which someone came back in a phone booth talking about how futuristic the phone is. At least at&t is trying to make it entertaining
1) I realize in the past that some of you have probably called to waive upgrade/ activation fees and it may have worked. Unless it's a property of your discount with at&t, the chances of you having it waived are less than 1%. I would recommend trying to get credit back some other way, like complaining about service issues at the house or something. You may not get the full 36 back, but something is typically better than nothing. At&t has blocked this capability for all of us a few months ago.
2) CHECK TO SEE IF YOU HAVE A DISCOUNT. Depending on where you work or go to school, you get discounts. Sometimes these discounts get added benefits, like an extra 150$ back if you sign up for U-verse or waived upgrade/ activation fees. These discounts are applied in two ways. One, on a family talk/ individual plan the discount is applied to what the first line has to pay for minutes plus anyone on a five gig plan. For example, family talk plan with 700 minutes (60 dollars) plus one person on a five gig plan (50 dollars) with a 10% discount would save 11$ a month. On mobile share plans it goes off any number from the top row from the brochure. like a 10% discount on a 10 gig plan (120$) would save you 12 bucks a month. These discounts can be applied one of two ways and have to be done in store. One, through email. Which is faster and instant. If you're lucky, try a retail store to see if they'll email someone other than the account holder if they have a discount. The second is through fax if you don't have an email specific to your job. This method can only apply a discount to whatever it says on your paycheck. So, if you work at a franchise like Dunkin' Donuts or something, check to see if it actually says Dunkin' Donuts or if it says the name of the franchise. This method can take up to two billing cycles to go on your bill and requires a paystub and your I.D. These discounts also typically come with accessory discounts as well for in store.
3) If everyone on your plan has a smartphone and doesn't have unlimited data, Mobile Share plans are more cost efficient than family talk plans and give you truly unlimited talk and text within the U.S.. Call up customer service and see how much data you guys use on average and move to a mobile share from there. Example: Two lines on a family talk vs. mobile share. Family talk: (700 minutes 60$ + 1 10$ + unlimited text 30$ + 2 3 gig plans 60$ = 160). Mobile share (6 gigs 90$ + 2 lines 70$ = 160). Same price, but lets look at the difference. Mobile share has truly unlimited talk and text AND includes tethering. Also, if you have a discount it will apply to the 90$ for the 6 gigs vs. the 60$ for the 700 minutes under the family talk. You start to save money vs. family talk once you hit 3 lines and above.
4) If ever adding a new line/ or just changing around your plan, don't be afraid to start out high. We have a trial policy with plans. If you start out high, like a 10 gig mobile share, and the first/ second bill with that plan shows you haven't even exceeded 6 gigs, we'll move you down and credit the difference.
5) Try to upgrade at corporate stores. Retail stores have a different commission structure in which they can mess around with your plan to change the primary line resulting in prorated charges. This is called base hopping. If you do upgrade at a retail store, you can haggle with the price of accessories to an extent compared to corporate stores with upgrades/ new activations. Just let them know that there will be repercussions if they mess with your plan when you want to keep it the same.
6) There are notes added every time you call customer service. Let us call for you if you have a chance. Otherwise, I recommend calling only twice. The first time be extremely polite and nicely talk about your frustrations. If that doesn't work, the next time be aggressive. If both don't work, you're pretty much SOL.
Any questions? I uploaded pictures of the brochures to help you with plan searching.
Couldn't have explained it better myself. Now if only all the customers that come in Saturday will read this before coming in. :thumbup:
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SPAM!!
Jk
Thanks for the tips, I knew most of them. My fan account gets my upgrade fee waivered almost always.
Here is my job's offer.
Receive a monthly service discount of 15%. Visit the premier website (click on the business name) for additional promos and discounts. You also receive a $25 credit when activating through the premier website.
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My wife initially ordered the phones herself and not on the premier site. I can just apply the coupon later at https://www.wireless.att.com/business/enrollment/index.jsp correct? I tried to use our phone numbers(switching our numbers over) which did not work. Also tried the temporary numbers which did not work as well. I am guessing I cannot apply for the discounts until I activate the phones/phone numbers?
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SPAM!!
Jk
Thanks for the tips, I knew most of them. My fan account gets my upgrade fee waivered almost always.
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If its a property of the fan and it still appears on the bill, call 611 and customer service will waive it.
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Here is my job's offer.
My wife initially ordered the phones herself and not on the premier site. I can just apply the coupon later at https://www.wireless.att.com/business/enrollment/index.jsp correct? I tried to use our phone numbers(switching our numbers over) which did not work. Also tried the temporary numbers which did not work as well. I am guessing I cannot apply for the discounts until I activate the phones/phone numbers?
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Can you go into more depth? It sounds like you're starting new service?
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Can you go into more depth? It sounds like you're starting new service?
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Yes and transferring phone numbers.
attbrandon said:
3) If everyone on your plan has a smartphone and doesn't have unlimited data, Mobile Share plans are more cost efficient than family talk plans and give you truly unlimited talk and text within the U.S.. Call up customer service and see how much data you guys use on average and move to a mobile share from there. Example: Two lines on a family talk vs. mobile share. Family talk: (700 minutes 60$ + 1 10$ + unlimited text 30$ + 2 3 gig plans 60$ = 160). Mobile share (6 gigs 90$ + 2 lines 70$ = 160). Same price, but lets look at the difference. Mobile share has truly unlimited talk and text AND includes tethering. Also, if you have a discount it will apply to the 90$ for the 6 gigs vs. the 60$ for the 700 minutes under the family talk. You start to save money vs. family talk once you hit 3 lines and above.
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AttBrandon,
I have a fan accnt, 4 lines, three of which are smart phone lines, Currently pay 30$ a line for data on each of the smartphones, have unlimited texting and mobile to any mobile calling. for all lines. Bill comes out to roughly 210/month.
Will the mobile share plan save me money?
btw my 4th line is not used but still in contract.
Thanks!
I really want the 32GB version; but the lack of a release date has me thinking that it might be a few months before we see it in stores. So my question is: If I purchase the 16GB version and the 32GB is released in the next 30 days, can I return it to get the 32GB version and simply pay the extra $50?
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AttBrandon,
I have a fan accnt, 4 lines, three of which are smart phone lines, Currently pay 30$ a line for data on each of the smartphones, have unlimited texting and mobile to any mobile calling. for all lines. Bill comes out to roughly 210/month.
Will the mobile share plan save me money?
btw my 4th line is not used but still in contract.
Thanks!
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Depends on your FAN discount and data usage. It also sounds like you don't have any insurance for any of the lines. Be careful with that.
I'd really only recommend it if you were to get a fourth smartphone. 10 gig mobile is 120 + 120 = 240. Subtract 18 (for arguments sake, average fan discount is 15 percent) = 222 before tax. 6 gig would be 211.5 in this scenario.
It's the same price whether you have that fourth line as a basic or smart phone. Or it's a viable option if one of your lines is starving for data and it gives all the smartphones tethering.
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I really want the 32GB version; but the lack of a release date has me thinking that it might be a few months before we see it in stores. So my question is: If I purchase the 16GB version and the 32GB is released in the next 30 days, can I return it to get the 32GB version and simply pay the extra $50?
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50$ + 35$ restocking fee. If you're really nice about it maybe they'll waive the restocking fee. Just be 100% sure it's not a 14 day return policy instead of a 30. This can be store dependent.
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Depends on your FAN discount and data usage. It also sounds like you don't have any insurance for any of the lines. Be careful with that.
I'd really only recommend it if you were to get a fourth smartphone. 10 gig mobile is 120 + 120 = 240. Subtract 18 (for arguments sake, average fan discount is 15 percent) = 222 before tax. 6 gig would be 211.5 in this scenario.
It's the same price whether you have that fourth line as a basic or smart phone. Or it's a viable option if one of your lines is starving for data and it gives all the smartphones tethering.
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mine right now is 210 with taxes included. So I guess it might not be worth it.
Thanks for the reply.
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Yes and transferring phone numbers.
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I'm not 100% sure to be honest. Ask your job for the FAN ID and I'll look up the properties of it tomorrow.
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mine right now is 210 with taxes included. So I guess it might not be worth it.
Thanks for the reply.
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You must have an amazing discount 0_o.
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You must have an amazing discount 0_o.
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28% I think?
I want to thank you for taking the time to offer this - I have been wondering what to do with my Wife's phone (She is still on Sprint) - she doesn't use much data - doesn't get the benefit of either 4g or LTE anyway (Sprint doesn't have LTE in Milwaukee) and I sometimes find myself going over the 3gb limit on my plan. After reading your comments and checking out the plans you posted - I think it would be cheaper for me to buy a 6gb shared plan for our two phones - I would pay less collectively than I am paying now for the ATT and Sprint plans I am paying for - and I would double the available data I can use - as she really doesn't use any.
Thanks a lot - I appreciate the tips...
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28% I think?
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Math then silly. A mobile share 10 gig would cost you 206.4 before tax. I thinks that's worth it for the tethering.
I don't like the idea of sharing data....then you gotta worry about how much other people are using...like what if your brother decides to do something stupid and uses up 6gigs...leaving only 4gigs for everyone else (3 other people)...I'd rather pay the extra and not have to worry about others eating up my precious data...idk just seems like a data overage waiting to happen
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OP, maybe you can help me make a decision. Here is what I have currently
26% Discount
5 Lines on the FamilyTalk Nation 700 with Rollover
Rollover for me is like having unlimited talk anyway. Whenever we go over 700 it kicks in and is enough to cover things.
2 - Smartphone lines with 2gb data plan (not even coming close to full utilization - always have wifi around)
2 - Smartphones lines with 200mb plan
1 - Regular phone
Total I am paying with taxes in NYC is about $215.
Is is worth going over to a shared use plan? I would like to add additional lines in the future and can't do that with my current plan.
AT&T says, "the more you use, the more you save." What crap!!! They have the network capacity to offer truly unlimited data. That's what they need to do. What's the point of having a brand new shiny new LTE device when you only can use it so much???
Families would rather have unlimited data instead of sharing. I will add, if they brought back unlimited to raise the price, say $40 or $50.