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Tiered Data - 7-7-11

http://phandroid.com/2011/06/20/tie...th-will-get-extremely-pricey-for-power-users/
Just stumbled across this and figured I would ruin a few peoples days.
Prices are outrageous, just a little FYI.

I was hoping to get my 7-21-11 upgrade before it happened. Well they better upgrade me early before the tiered pricing or I'm leaving them when my contract is up in November.

they should offer at least 5GB for 30 bucks.. if not, come renewal time.. I'm looking at sprint.

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they should offer at least 5GB for 30 bucks.. if not, come renewal time.. I'm looking at sprint.
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I was thinking of doing it before renewal time. Even if I am grandfathered in. Just getting tired of Verizon and all they are doing, especially to rooters/hacktivists. I am tired of always looking over my shoulder.

Glad I just signed a 2 year agreement 2 months ago.

Disappointing that they aren't even going the AT&T route and lowering the price slightly for the 2GB plan.
They say that customers want tiered pricing, but then set the current unlimited price as the 2GB plan. Yeah...that is really looking out for customer choice.

2 words
grandfathered in unlimited 4G

So it looks like it's finally time to upgrade my Eris. Is the Thunderbolt the way to go? I want 4G, but was hoping for something a little smaller...
Thanks,
CJ

The thunderbolt is like the eris big brother that went to college, graduated and now owns a fortune 500 company...
Go for it

You know what it is at&t are gonna rape them come conversion time. So they wanna rape who ever then can get. So I'm happy I just started a 2 year agreement. So basically when is done I'm going to at&t and get charged the extra few bucks a month. **** there gonna have service everywhere now.

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I got 4 words (maybe 5, depends on how you count the /)
Unlimited 4G for $10/month

**** Verizon. Once my two year contract is over I'm taking my business somewhere else

Sprint, I know your coverage sucks, but keep unlimited for another year and a half and I promise I will switch to you!

Zinsko said:
You know what it is at&t are gonna rape them come conversion time. So they wanna rape who ever then can get. So I'm happy I just started a 2 year agreement. So basically when is done I'm going to at&t and get charged the extra few bucks a month. **** there gonna have service everywhere now.
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Oh yeah, adding T-Mobile is just going to expand their service so much .
Anyone notice AT&T cannot do simple math. They say they cover 97% of all Americans (about the time the commercial started, total population was about 310 million). 97% comes to about 301 million. But somehow by adding T-Mobile, they say they will cover another 50 million Amercians. which would equal about 360 million

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I got 4 words (maybe 5, depends on how you count the /)
Unlimited 4G for $10/month
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Sorry you fell for it. They offered the discounts for a year to get people off of the unlimited plans. After the year you are stuck with their current pricing plans. That's why I declined that "great offer"

Yes.. let's all switch companies when our contracts are up even though half of you won't be changing your plan and thus will be paying the same as you are now..
And if you read the original article, the same people that said the switch is coming are also saying you can renew your same plan for and get a subsidized phone while keeping unlimited data.
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Anyone notice AT&T cannot do simple math. They say they cover 97% of all Americans (about the time the commercial started, total population was about 310 million). 97% comes to about 301 million. But somehow by adding T-Mobile, they say they will cover another 50 million Amercians. which would equal about 360 million
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Counting people multiple times apparently counts with them. Same way I can say that I've slept with 13,438 girls.

This is gonna be bad for business with Amazon, netflix and Google all using streaming services. Even if you don't stream a lot of data or tether.. you can EASILY use upto 3 GB of data per month on normal usage. So 30 bucks for 2GB means we'll all have 4G phones with superfast broadband.. but use it only check emails or maps to find directions occasionally.
and why the **** does Verizon want to charge 20 bucks extra for tethering when it is ALREADY a limited data plan?? How the heck does it matter to verizon if I am paying 50 bucks for 5GB data and I use it over the phone or on my PC thru the phone???
that's just plain greedy...(assuming this is all true information of course.. if it's just a rumour and VZW keeps up with unlimited data for 30 bucks.. I LOVE YOU VERIZON!).

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Counting people multiple times apparently counts with them. Same way I can say that I've slept with 13,438 girls.
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2 more than me. I will catch up this weekend.

Make sure to read the fine print make sure it doesn't say up to like 600mega bites becausethey offer you full speed up to that amount then it goes slow. Yeah its unlimited but it goes slow after a amount is used. What company though.

The answer to why does AT&T Throttle?

There you have it gentlemen. It is all about $$$$$$$$
AT&T Looks To Drive Revenue With Higher-Priced Data Plans
NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--AT&T Inc. (T) is raising the ante again on data.
When customers sign up for a new plan starting Sunday, they will have to pay as much as 33% more each month, part of a strategy by the telecommunications giant to compensate for the 40% annual increase in wireless data use on its networks and to capitalize on consumers' tastes for data-hungry devices like the Apple Inc. (AAPL) iPhone.
AT&T noted under its new pricing structure, consumers will be able to use more data; however, they also will have to pay a higher bill, a continuing trend in the wireless industry. Since 2007, when the wildly popular iPhone debuted, AT&T has more than doubled average monthly data revenue per user to $25.14 in last year's third quarter from $12.01.
The wireless carrier has relied heavily on data to boost profits in recent years, as the market for new customers dries up. Data accounted for 39% of AT&T's revenue from wireless customers through the third quarter, up from just 20% in 2007.
AT&T and others have argued they need to carefully manage usage on their networks in the face of a coming shortage of available wireless airwaves, known as spectrum. The carrier is on the hunt for more spectrum following its failed $39 billion bid for T-Mobile, which it had said would bolster its network and ease capacity constraints.
Under the new plans, users will pay $5 more per month, though their monthly data allotment will rise. The least-expensive smartphone data plan, for instance, will jump to $20 for 300 megabytes of data--about an hour and a half of streaming video--from $15 for 200 megabytes.
"It seems like they are going to just keep raising prices; and for what?" said Kamille Cooper, 22, an iPhone 4 user who has maintained her $30 unlimited AT&T data plan for about four years. "It makes you wonder when they are going to come after the people like me." she doesn't know
AT&T introduced the first data caps in 2010, arguing consumers who traded down to lower-priced plans could save money.
"We think it made sense to give customers more data upfront and to give them more value," an AT&T spokesman said. "Data usage continues to increase."
New AT&T smartphone and tablet customers needing more data will pay $30 for three gigabytes of data, up from $25 for two gigabytes, and $50 for five gigabytes, from $45 for four gigabytes. That compares with Verizon Wireless's two-gigabyte and five-gigabyte plans for $30 and $50 per month, respectively.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120119-714802.html

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1452815
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Where does it explain in that thread the economical reasons for their move?
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No where...by all means feel free to create multiple threads about the same damn subject soley to share your own opinion that very well could have been shared in the existing thread
Have a cookie, you're special
Carry on
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Where does it explain in that thread the economical reasons for their move?
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They throttle because data is expensive to transmit and they want to make profit /thread
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I remember reading an interview with a Verizon Wireless executive a few months ago. He stated that since killing off their unlimited $30 data plan last July, they want customers to move from the new $30/2gb plans to their higher $50/5gb and $80/10gb plans, thanks to data intensive applications like YouTube and NetFlix. They want to increase their ARPU. At least he was honest that he wants to squeeze more out of customers to increase their bottom lines.

You can stay on the 2GB plan, they aren't forcing you off it. In reality, its cheaper for these new plans. If you went over on the 2GB plan, another gig is $10, the new plan is 3GB for $30, $5 cheaper. Good for people who go over often.
Same with the 5GB plan, its $5 also, and includes no deep packet inspection from att. Honestly. I'm glad to see them raise data limits, at least they are offering more data. I'll stick to my $30 for unlimited though.
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2gb or even 5gb of data won't be enough for users the way things are going, HD videos, HD apps, video chat ect. Prepare to pay minimum $150 for one line in a couple of years from now. The carriers are in control pretty much from here on. The funny thing is a pay $30 for my internet at home and is fast and unlimited. Carriers - data is expensive to deliver wireless, I say BS excuses to raise our phone bill
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The consensus from a few customers i have in the industry is that it costs them roughly 3 cents per MB used...why should the guy using more not be charged more. I of course view it the same way as you..innevitibly it "should" eventually go back to unlimited just as home service and talk time did. Here is where it gets just plain stupid...their issue is not the data we use but the traffic we generate on sites, which in turn creates advertising monies. Where is that money going? They (carriers) can't touch it.
The solution. Charge the user.
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2gb or even 5gb of data won't be enough for users the way things are going, HD videos, HD apps, video chat ect. Prepare to pay minimum $150 for one line in a couple of years from now. The carriers are in control pretty much from here on. The funny thing is a pay $30 for my internet at home and is fast and unlimited. Carriers - data is expensive to deliver wireless, I say BS excuses to raise our phone bill
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Boo boo bee boo
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You bottom line is if a company does not make money they don't stay a company long. if you figure up what 1 mega byte is on the old plans compared to the new ones I think you will find the new is a better deal. None the less what allot of you folks don't understand is there is allot of cost you don't think about for instance out goes all the way down the line, raises for the execs down to the assholes who climb the towers to install strobe lights on them or how much money it cost to install the lte in all the new places. Bottom line you Fockers want all the good fast **** for free and the economy just don't work that way. look at it this way atleast att is a American based company creating jobs for Americans to do all this work.
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I don't even live in a LTE network..I did however get a warning text ”you are in the top 10% of all data users” Come on...!
dailywireless.org/2012/01/06/we-are-the-top-1-of-data-users
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An lte charge? Please do explain...
Our plan pricing did not change
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I noticed I pay extra still, with unlimited..+ a LTE charge. I don't even live in a LTE network..I did however get a warning text ”you are in the top 10% of all data users” Come on...!
dailywireless.org/2012/01/06/we-are-the-top-1-of-data-users
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I stand corrected..the charge is only 30$..My wife had complained..but I just looked and it is no extra charge..Sorry

Damn looks like everyone is throttling their data, I can help with some of your cancellation fees if your in the Tampa bay area. If you're willing to switch to Tmobile that is buahahahaha
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Verizon is out to get us.

Obviously the new data plans following suit of the other carriers in killing unlimited, reducing data costs to Big Red is nothing new. The fact our Thunderbolts have been having all kinds of data drop issues (regardless of ROM) is just evident they're even further making efforts to eff us in our rears. I've been eligible for an upgrade for some time but am obviously holding out to maintain my unlimited.. but now I find myself trying to find a Verizon phone elsewhere (craigs list, ebay, etc) just so I don't have to upgrade via Verizon.
Is it true even if we purchase another phone on our own, in activating it, they'll force the change?
Anyone have any recent ROM/radio recommendations that are stable? I swear, it doesn't matter what I flash, my TB is slowly dying and I the conspiracy theorist in me tells me Verizon has placed some moles in the dev community to eff up our stuff (unlikely but possible).

You will only lose your contract if you use your upgrade with them. You can activate any compatible phone on your current contract without losing any of the features (unlimited data) the only exception being for anyone currently on a 3g device cannot activate a 4g phone.
I am using SkyRaider and average around 5gb a month of data usage and haven't noticed any more data lag or drops than normal.

Wait so if I buy a Verizon phone from CL or Ebay I can use my current plan on my TB?
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Watoy said:
Wait so if I buy a Verizon phone from CL or Ebay I can use my current plan on my TB?
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Yes. I just switched from the thunderbolt to a eBay inc 4g yesterday.
My plan is expired too on month to month. Unlimited forever and no contract.

Actually, their just out to make money, like businesses are supposed to do. Things change. This is actually going to lower my bill because after i get my replacement, im dropping the insurance. Wont need it, buy phones on ebay, keep unlimited. I dont need latest and greatest. Dont like the new galaxy, feels cheap. In another few months, ill pick up a rezound
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Actually, their just out to make money, like businesses are supposed to do. Things change. This is actually going to lower my bill because after i get my replacement, im dropping the insurance. Wont need it, buy phones on ebay, keep unlimited. I dont need latest and greatest. Dont like the new galaxy, feels cheap. In another few months, ill pick up a rezound
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Saying they're out to get us doesn't mean I don't understand their position or their motives, haha. Heck, I'd do the same thing. Glad to hear though that I can still get my own devices and activate under the same plan, that alone can keep me on Big Red so it's much appreciated. I'll also check out SkyRaider, last I tried, I had issues but don't remember what they were. Thanks all.

They aren't 'out to get us'. They just want to give you as little as possible while charging as much as possible. The fact that there isn't competition in the cellular market means no one is fighting for customers. Just wait 2 or 3 years and Verizon will be broken up like AT&T before... If we're lucky that is.
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They are definitely and obviously in the this game for PROFIT, MONEY, DINERO, MOOLAH, etc,......!!!
Look at the hard facts.
Quite eye-opening really, in case you didn't have a real picture as to HOW much they are really making on us while giving us less.
I just don't think I'll ever appreciate them removing Unlimited data. It may help some people.
But It doesn't make things cheaper or better in my situation, but so long as I can buy retail and not ever be forced over, I'll stay.
The day they force me into a new contract after my current one is up, I'm out.
Just thought I'd post that link for their earnings report from this Quarter, as they just released it and it pretty well sums up this thread.

Just talked to Vzn cust serv, they said (for whatever it's worth) that if you upgrade using the disc phone price, you'll be switched over OFF unlimited. To keep unlimited you csn purchase Vzn offered phone at full retail w/out contract, or privately purchase any Vzn compatible phone and activate w/out contract. I asked what stops Vzn in three months from saying "you have no contract with Vzn, buy our new plan or we'll drop you"... She said, nothing stops them from sayinv that, Vzn isn't bound by a contract. Either way, my TB runs so well, I have no problem keeping it another year, maybe two!
Running Thundershed v1.6_CM7.2, imo lean kernel 6.2.1 (#1 normal -undervolted, 184-1408) with the .9 radios... Got 6hrs of uninterrupted use, a few days ago. (Internet, tons of YouTube videos, online games, text/calls, FB, phone gaming, etc. jumping from one to the other) just to see how long it would go. 6hrs 11min with 18% batt life remaining. 15 hrs heavy-moderate use with 29% batt life remaining. This is w/out 4G (not avail here yet) and using Rezound standard batt... Even without the better battery life, the TB works very well in this config, and operates incredibly smooth, and very reliably.
Is it worth running with my smooth TB another year to keep $300 in my pocket and not lose unlimited pkg (upgrade)? Or is it worth keeping $500-600 in my pocket (not paying full retail just to have a newer, slightly better phone)? ABSOFREAKINLUTELY worth it! Well played Quietly Rooted TB, well played.
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How about this thought. I'm on a shared 10GB plan with 3 other phones. I noticed that Verizon made sure that there was NO way to disable that stupid backup service that I can find. So it sounds to me like they're TRYING to make people go over their limited data plan if they can.

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Shadow Death said:
How about this thought. I'm on a shared 10GB plan with 3 other phones. I noticed that Verizon made sure that there was NO way to disable that stupid backup service that I can find. So it sounds to me like they're TRYING to make people go over their limited data plan if they can.
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As long as you are a member of the account online then backup assistant is free every month, and they say it is airtime free.. its only your contacts and its done over cellular ( not data plan ) - i have a dumb phone on my account and they have their backup ( no data )

santod040 said:
They are definitely and obviously in the this game for PROFIT, MONEY, DINERO, MOOLAH, etc,......!!!
Look at the hard facts.
Quite eye-opening really, in case you didn't have a real picture as to HOW much they are really making on us while giving us less.
I just don't think I'll ever appreciate them removing Unlimited data. It may help some people.
But It doesn't make things cheaper or better in my situation, but so long as I can buy retail and not ever be forced over, I'll stay.
The day they force me into a new contract after my current one is up, I'm out.
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I had a recent experience which may shed some light on the situation. I have a TB with unlimited data, but until recently, that was part of a family plan through my parents (for convenience.) Well, without realizing what they were doing, they got manipulated by a VZW salesperson to change their family plan to the bundled data plan - in exchange for two free smart phones and a free hotspot device. Of course, my unlimited plan went byebye as a result. I calmly called customer service the second I heard they had gotten smart phones and explained that there had been a mistake, and that the plan change was supposed to exclude my phone.
Well, the CS person was very helpful, and offered to remove my line from their account, and restore the unlimited data on a new account under my name, at the 2008 (when I had gotten a smartphone originally) single-subscriber price. It barely took any coaxing, and she was quick to offer me that compromise, after I suggested my parents had been purposefully misled (which I am sure they were - I figure the salesperson gets a bonus for every unlimited line he scraps.)
My point? If they still have the ability to create an entirely new account with unlimited data based on prices from 4 years ago, I am sure that they can still renew the unlimited contracts if given a good enough reason. I suppose the trick is coming up with a good reason...

You can keep unlimited data as long as you don't get a new subsidized phone. Pay full price for new phone and you can keep unlimited data.
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You can keep unlimited data as long as you don't get a new subsidized phone. Pay full price for new phone and you can keep unlimited data.
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Yeah that's pretty common knowledge by now I think.
My concern is when will that option end?
Once my current contract is up, there's nothing carved in stone that says they won't change things.
They could very well decide to try and force anyone with a smartphone on their network into a new data plan or simply only offer you voice.
I guess I just wonder how long will they allow grandfathered Unlimited data users to keep that, beyond their contract end date.
Nobody really knows.

I guess ill see first .. I'm on month to month right now with unlimited.

Yep, that's the caveat of unlimited data ; no contract. Technically, 5 minutes after you end your contract by buying a full retail phone, or keeping your existing phone (as I plan to do), Vzn can disconnect you and bill you for 5 minutes Obviously they wouldn't do this, but no contract means no promises.
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razr maxx is old now yet full retail hasnt changed. does anyone sell brand new smartphones at lower prices as they age? best buy certainly doesnt. I prefer not to deal with private sales through ebay or swappa but would deal with amazon or new egg or a well know dealer online. a brick and mortar store would be my preference but it appears they only put phones on sale with a plan, never put brand new no contract phones on sale.

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razr maxx is old now yet full retail hasnt changed. does anyone sell brand new smartphones at lower prices as they age? best buy certainly doesnt. I prefer not to deal with private sales through ebay or swappa but would deal with amazon or new egg or a well know dealer online. a brick and mortar store would be my preference but it appears they only put phones on sale with a plan, never put brand new no contract phones on sale.
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Yeah Verizon's phone prices are high. The Droid Incredible, till the day it was discontinued, costed $549.99 or whatever full retail, even though new Droid Incredibles were going on eBay for half that. And damn, the Droid Charge is $99 with 2 year contract RIGHT NOW. So is the Galaxy Nexus.
If I can talk a rep into giving me unlimited data or rather letting me keep unlimited when upgrading, well I would not be totally against organized bribing, sort of like tips for waiters and waitresses, of course we know that's not happening.
Too bad Verizon doesn't have an S in its name, I, along with everyone else on here would replace that S with a $ so fast...

Hahaha. Yeah. Verizon wirele$$
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http://m.engadget.com/2012/07/31/ve...-10th/?utm_source=engadget&utm_medium=twitter check this out. This is what i have
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[Q] Is This Phone Worth Giving Up Unlimited Data?

I'm still using a SGS3 I paid full price for on launch day. So is my wife and 2 kids. Back then I could afford to pay full price for 4 phones. Today I can't but we all want to upgrade. It's been nearly 2 years after all and everyone else has shiny new phones. Verizon has the HTC One M8 for $99. I can handle 4 of them at that price. The problem is I'll have to get rid of my unlimited data. Right now we use a combined 10GB or so each month but we rarely have WIFI on so I'm sure we can get that number down. But that's not what I'm concerned with. I'm more concerned about the future of data usage as things become more data intensive. I see the data usage growing over the years. SO, is the HTC One M8 worth giving up the unlimited data and possibly paying much more per month in the future? Or should I hold out for something else?

I used 24GB last month. Remember data goes quick.
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hell no......... i love this phone.... but love my unlimited data more....lol

This phone is unbelievable. I came from the GSIII and am in shock at how much better phones are now in the two years that passed since that phone was considered new and exciting. I think people who stream movies and music nonstop should keep unlimited. I personally am almost always on Wifi, and when I'm not I don't so anything like downloading movies or something. Who uses that much data away from home? I use about a half gig a month, and likely many gigabytes of Wifi data per month through my ISP at home.
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hawkeyejoe said:
I'm still using a SGS3 I paid full price for on launch day. So is my wife and 2 kids. Back then I could afford to pay full price for 4 phones. Today I can't but we all want to upgrade. It's been nearly 2 years after all and everyone else has shiny new phones. Verizon has the HTC One M8 for $99. I can handle 4 of them at that price. The problem is I'll have to get rid of my unlimited data. Right now we use a combined 10GB or so each month but we rarely have WIFI on so I'm sure we can get that number down. But that's not what I'm concerned with. I'm more concerned about the future of data usage as things become more data intensive. I see the data usage growing over the years. SO, is the HTC One M8 worth giving up the unlimited data and possibly paying much more per month in the future? Or should I hold out for something else?
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It's gonna cost you $260.00 a month for 4 lines and 10gb of data. The phone is way awesome. I feel it's the best available. You aren't using any where near what an unlimited user would normally use so a 10gb plan is probably OK. But the caveat will be the the increase in your monthly.
I don't know but I'll bet your not even close to $260.00. If you are jump on it, you'll like it. If not, these are tough times, and a big increase in a monthly bill might suck.
Just for the conversation, since I started using this phone, my personal data usage went down 20%. I also came from a Samsung Note 2.

Seeing as VZW unlimited data is priceless and the phone has a price, no. Don't give in; you'd only be doing what they want — making them more money at your detriment.

i wouldn't get rid of the unlimited data for anything. once you do it you aren't getting it back so keep that in mind and look at how much data plans are now. just my opinion

Hasn't Verizon said that they intend to throttle speeds for users on the unlimited plan? Thought I read that somewhere.
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Just do an alternate upgrade and switch the phone to your line. I do it all the time and I work at Verizon and do it for customers on a daily basis.
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people have said they've been successful in upgrading without losing unlimited data by buying the phone from bestbuy.com
they then take the phone to the verizon store and ask for a sim to activate.
I personally just moved my upgrade to another line, then swapped the phone back to my line.

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people have said they've been successful in upgrading without losing unlimited data by buying the phone from bestbuy.com
they then take the phone to the verizon store and ask for a sim to activate.
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I have successfully done this. I don't know what deals best buy or the direct htc website have right now (may be more than Verizon's $99) but the trick is finding a website that 1) doesn't force you to pick out your new plan before checking out and 2) will ship the phone directly to your home. Bottom line I bought an m8 at the subsidized price and kept my unlimited without swapping upgrades from other lines. I've got a series old posts all about it if you look me up. They're either in this or the Rezound forums.

My method is to just keep a dumb phone line active on my account. $10 a month, and I transfer my upgrades to that line, activate the phone on that line, then transfer the phone to my unlimited line. Last two times I did this, my line was still eligible for an upgrade, so I got my wife an S5 and got myself the M8. It was obviously a glitch, and I'm no longer eligible for an upgrade, but hey, got two phones at subsidized price and kept the same data plans. I'm in unlimited and she's on double the data(a promotion they offered two years ago).
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PsiPhiDan said:
This phone is unbelievable. I came from the GSIII and am in shock at how much better phones are now in the two years that passed since that phone was considered new and exciting. I think people who stream movies and music nonstop should keep unlimited. I personally am almost always on Wifi, and when I'm not I don't so anything like downloading movies or something. Who uses that much data away from home? I use about a half gig a month, and likely many gigabytes of Wifi data per month through my ISP at home.
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My daughter used to do a lot of streaming of music but I started just putting music on her phone SD card so she doesn't stream it anymore. That has drastically cut down on her data usage. I agree though that new phones are amazing. I used to think my old SGSIII was still snappy until I started checking out some of the newest devices. Makes me really want to upgrade.

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It's gonna cost you $260.00 a month for 4 lines and 10gb of data. The phone is way awesome. I feel it's the best available. You aren't using any where near what an unlimited user would normally use so a 10gb plan is probably OK. But the caveat will be the the increase in your monthly.
I don't know but I'll bet your not even close to $260.00. If you are jump on it, you'll like it. If not, these are tough times, and a big increase in a monthly bill might suck.
Just for the conversation, since I started using this phone, my personal data usage went down 20%. I also came from a Samsung Note 2.
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Well my bill right now is $240 after tax. There is still insurance on 3 of the lines, I should have cancelled that long ago really. My line has the corporate unlimited data plan as I need it to use Good for Enterprise for work email. I also get a 17% discount through work. So it is likely my bill will go up slightly, especially if we go over the data allotment. Which is my main concern for the future, not right now. But who knows how long Verizon will even allow us to stay on unlimited anyway.

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I have successfully done this. I don't know what deals best buy or the direct htc website have right now (may be more than Verizon's $99) but the trick is finding a website that 1) doesn't force you to pick out your new plan before checking out and 2) will ship the phone directly to your home. Bottom line I bought an m8 at the subsidized price and kept my unlimited without swapping upgrades from other lines. I've got a series old posts all about it if you look me up. They're either in this or the Rezound forums.
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Thanks, I'll look into this. If it works it's an ingenious way to keep the unlimited!

Hell no. I paid outright for this phone to keep my unlimited. Once Verizon forcibly takes unlimited from me I'm leaving.
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I think we all will. So I'm pretty sure they won't ever remove it, but just slowly throttle it more and more.
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pjim said:
It's gonna cost you $260.00 a month for 4 lines and 10gb of data. The phone is way awesome. I feel it's the best available. You aren't using any where near what an unlimited user would normally use so a 10gb plan is probably OK. But the caveat will be the the increase in your monthly.
I don't know but I'll bet your not even close to $260.00. If you are jump on it, you'll like it. If not, these are tough times, and a big increase in a monthly bill might suck.
Just for the conversation, since I started using this phone, my personal data usage went down 20%. I also came from a Samsung Note 2.
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Actually VZW is matching AT&T with 4 lines and 10gb of data for $160 right now.
Personally, I won't give up my unlimited data for anything. I just bought the M8, and I'm pleasantly surprised by how much I like this phone. I paid full retail, I know you can get them cheaper on swappa, eBay, and CL, but I wanted to be the 1st to own it. Great phone, I have 2 weeks to return it if I change my mind.
As far the OP's question, I don't think any phone is worth giving up my unlimited data for.

By the way this phone was cheap full retail. 32GB internal storage for $600 from Verizon store.
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As stated previously I also don't believe there is any phone worth losing unlimited data. Not to take anything away from this device it's awesome don't get me wrong but I would max out a data plan in like three days lol.

VZW Robbery in progress to off contract Unlimited Data customers

Or should i say price hike either way I'll just leave this here
http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/08/verizon-unlimited-data-price-increase/

A few weeks ago right after receiving my phone I had a question and stopped into a VZ store. After looking over my phone, it was the first Pure they had seen, they told me good luck holding onto my UDP. They were not specific but insinuated something was coming down from up top. I was told we have two types of customers. contract..... and data hogs. They may not have known exactly that this increase was taking place but they seemed to know something was coming.
I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the change. I am happy I have an unlocked phone that gives me choice of any carry should I decide to move on. Glad they don't mind losing me. I've been a customer for a long time because the other carrier's coverage WAS terrible. It's not so bad now.

Thank God I'm still on an unlimited data contract for another year
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I don't think this is a big deal at all. An extra $240 a year. If i were making 5 bucks an hour, might hurt a bit. Fact of the matter is, it was a good run. We were getting away with murder at 30 bucks a month for unlimited. Kinda unfair that we pay less than 2GB of data tiers.
Should be thankful and not feeling spited. Verizon doesn't have to keep unlimited data to OGs, yet they do.

Agree with above post. Us 1% have most definitely benefitted for years. I'm understanding that legacy UDP people will not be affected.
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the whole thing caught me of guard and I agree it was a good run..... at least they didn't just revoke the UDP from us all together

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I don't think this is a big deal at all. An extra $240 a year.
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Yeah? Multiply that times three.

spotmark said:
Yeah? Multiply that times three.
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Multiply what, times 3?

Darkestred said:
Multiply what, times 3?
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$240. I have three unlimited lines.

Darkestred said:
I don't think this is a big deal at all. An extra $240 a year. If i were making 5 bucks an hour, might hurt a bit. Fact of the matter is, it was a good run. We were getting away with murder at 30 bucks a month for unlimited. Kinda unfair that we pay less than 2GB of data tiers.
Should be thankful and not feeling spited. Verizon doesn't have to keep unlimited data to OGs, yet they do.
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($30/month) + (I don't remember any reduction after my initial device subsidy was paid off, on my OG Incredible..... 2011.) =
Seems to me we have already been paying to play.

35 gigs so far this month, and my cycle ends the 21st...yeah, let's see how your wonderful plans would save me money, eh verizon? lmao. I'll pay it. it's still better than going to att or crap t-mobile.
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I lost my unlimited data long ago. :crying:
Obviously Verizon RIPS us all off when our phone is paid for but we still pay full price on contract!
And nobody likes a price increase on anything!
But for those who do have unlimited data, and are complaining about the rate hike....just be glad they haven't pulled the whole carpet out from under you! Yet, that is.....

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Yeah? Multiply that times three.
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I'm about in the same boat as you, only I have 2 unlimited lines and not 3, so I understand. Maybe your situation is more like mine, in that we don't have any sort of broadband options where we live, so we both use a lot of data. However, I'm thinking that using my phone as my home ISP with it connecting to my router, may help to decrease some data useage on my other line.
We will probably test out using my phone as the primary ISP and connecting her phone to that wifi to see if that will help reduce her data usage enough to justify moving her to a tiered plan. Maybe a similar configuration may help you out as well?

I'm dumping Verizon just before I finish out this billing cycle. I'm sick of their shenanigans. My plan is to rack up 500gb of data (UDP) before I give them the finger.
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Verizon wants the $. They already are robbing people.

Well if they're concerned about 'data hogs', it's gonna get a whole lot worse if we're made to pay more for the service. Won't have any qualm about using as much data as I can now. The max I've used is 35g on vacation. That'll be chump change...

At some point it will need to go the other direction. Consumers are being screwed by data caps while carriers are pushing LTE and high def content. Not to mention cloud to access your own content.

Hell, I'm just pissed I have to pay what I do and my kids spend most of their time on WiFi. Why brag about service if the end result is you spend 99% of your time worrying about that?
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I've been f***ing around with my plan to see what I can do when the rate hike comes. It looks like I can cut my talk minutes back so the increase will "only" cost me $30 over all three of my lines. I guess I can't complain too much, since I've had a promo since 2010, that made my unlimited data only $9.95/mo on each line.