I'm still using a SGS3 I paid full price for on launch day. So is my wife and 2 kids. Back then I could afford to pay full price for 4 phones. Today I can't but we all want to upgrade. It's been nearly 2 years after all and everyone else has shiny new phones. Verizon has the HTC One M8 for $99. I can handle 4 of them at that price. The problem is I'll have to get rid of my unlimited data. Right now we use a combined 10GB or so each month but we rarely have WIFI on so I'm sure we can get that number down. But that's not what I'm concerned with. I'm more concerned about the future of data usage as things become more data intensive. I see the data usage growing over the years. SO, is the HTC One M8 worth giving up the unlimited data and possibly paying much more per month in the future? Or should I hold out for something else?
I used 24GB last month. Remember data goes quick.
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hell no......... i love this phone.... but love my unlimited data more....lol
This phone is unbelievable. I came from the GSIII and am in shock at how much better phones are now in the two years that passed since that phone was considered new and exciting. I think people who stream movies and music nonstop should keep unlimited. I personally am almost always on Wifi, and when I'm not I don't so anything like downloading movies or something. Who uses that much data away from home? I use about a half gig a month, and likely many gigabytes of Wifi data per month through my ISP at home.
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hawkeyejoe said:
I'm still using a SGS3 I paid full price for on launch day. So is my wife and 2 kids. Back then I could afford to pay full price for 4 phones. Today I can't but we all want to upgrade. It's been nearly 2 years after all and everyone else has shiny new phones. Verizon has the HTC One M8 for $99. I can handle 4 of them at that price. The problem is I'll have to get rid of my unlimited data. Right now we use a combined 10GB or so each month but we rarely have WIFI on so I'm sure we can get that number down. But that's not what I'm concerned with. I'm more concerned about the future of data usage as things become more data intensive. I see the data usage growing over the years. SO, is the HTC One M8 worth giving up the unlimited data and possibly paying much more per month in the future? Or should I hold out for something else?
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It's gonna cost you $260.00 a month for 4 lines and 10gb of data. The phone is way awesome. I feel it's the best available. You aren't using any where near what an unlimited user would normally use so a 10gb plan is probably OK. But the caveat will be the the increase in your monthly.
I don't know but I'll bet your not even close to $260.00. If you are jump on it, you'll like it. If not, these are tough times, and a big increase in a monthly bill might suck.
Just for the conversation, since I started using this phone, my personal data usage went down 20%. I also came from a Samsung Note 2.
Seeing as VZW unlimited data is priceless and the phone has a price, no. Don't give in; you'd only be doing what they want — making them more money at your detriment.
i wouldn't get rid of the unlimited data for anything. once you do it you aren't getting it back so keep that in mind and look at how much data plans are now. just my opinion
Hasn't Verizon said that they intend to throttle speeds for users on the unlimited plan? Thought I read that somewhere.
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Just do an alternate upgrade and switch the phone to your line. I do it all the time and I work at Verizon and do it for customers on a daily basis.
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people have said they've been successful in upgrading without losing unlimited data by buying the phone from bestbuy.com
they then take the phone to the verizon store and ask for a sim to activate.
I personally just moved my upgrade to another line, then swapped the phone back to my line.
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people have said they've been successful in upgrading without losing unlimited data by buying the phone from bestbuy.com
they then take the phone to the verizon store and ask for a sim to activate.
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I have successfully done this. I don't know what deals best buy or the direct htc website have right now (may be more than Verizon's $99) but the trick is finding a website that 1) doesn't force you to pick out your new plan before checking out and 2) will ship the phone directly to your home. Bottom line I bought an m8 at the subsidized price and kept my unlimited without swapping upgrades from other lines. I've got a series old posts all about it if you look me up. They're either in this or the Rezound forums.
My method is to just keep a dumb phone line active on my account. $10 a month, and I transfer my upgrades to that line, activate the phone on that line, then transfer the phone to my unlimited line. Last two times I did this, my line was still eligible for an upgrade, so I got my wife an S5 and got myself the M8. It was obviously a glitch, and I'm no longer eligible for an upgrade, but hey, got two phones at subsidized price and kept the same data plans. I'm in unlimited and she's on double the data(a promotion they offered two years ago).
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This phone is unbelievable. I came from the GSIII and am in shock at how much better phones are now in the two years that passed since that phone was considered new and exciting. I think people who stream movies and music nonstop should keep unlimited. I personally am almost always on Wifi, and when I'm not I don't so anything like downloading movies or something. Who uses that much data away from home? I use about a half gig a month, and likely many gigabytes of Wifi data per month through my ISP at home.
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My daughter used to do a lot of streaming of music but I started just putting music on her phone SD card so she doesn't stream it anymore. That has drastically cut down on her data usage. I agree though that new phones are amazing. I used to think my old SGSIII was still snappy until I started checking out some of the newest devices. Makes me really want to upgrade.
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It's gonna cost you $260.00 a month for 4 lines and 10gb of data. The phone is way awesome. I feel it's the best available. You aren't using any where near what an unlimited user would normally use so a 10gb plan is probably OK. But the caveat will be the the increase in your monthly.
I don't know but I'll bet your not even close to $260.00. If you are jump on it, you'll like it. If not, these are tough times, and a big increase in a monthly bill might suck.
Just for the conversation, since I started using this phone, my personal data usage went down 20%. I also came from a Samsung Note 2.
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Well my bill right now is $240 after tax. There is still insurance on 3 of the lines, I should have cancelled that long ago really. My line has the corporate unlimited data plan as I need it to use Good for Enterprise for work email. I also get a 17% discount through work. So it is likely my bill will go up slightly, especially if we go over the data allotment. Which is my main concern for the future, not right now. But who knows how long Verizon will even allow us to stay on unlimited anyway.
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I have successfully done this. I don't know what deals best buy or the direct htc website have right now (may be more than Verizon's $99) but the trick is finding a website that 1) doesn't force you to pick out your new plan before checking out and 2) will ship the phone directly to your home. Bottom line I bought an m8 at the subsidized price and kept my unlimited without swapping upgrades from other lines. I've got a series old posts all about it if you look me up. They're either in this or the Rezound forums.
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Thanks, I'll look into this. If it works it's an ingenious way to keep the unlimited!
Hell no. I paid outright for this phone to keep my unlimited. Once Verizon forcibly takes unlimited from me I'm leaving.
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I think we all will. So I'm pretty sure they won't ever remove it, but just slowly throttle it more and more.
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It's gonna cost you $260.00 a month for 4 lines and 10gb of data. The phone is way awesome. I feel it's the best available. You aren't using any where near what an unlimited user would normally use so a 10gb plan is probably OK. But the caveat will be the the increase in your monthly.
I don't know but I'll bet your not even close to $260.00. If you are jump on it, you'll like it. If not, these are tough times, and a big increase in a monthly bill might suck.
Just for the conversation, since I started using this phone, my personal data usage went down 20%. I also came from a Samsung Note 2.
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Actually VZW is matching AT&T with 4 lines and 10gb of data for $160 right now.
Personally, I won't give up my unlimited data for anything. I just bought the M8, and I'm pleasantly surprised by how much I like this phone. I paid full retail, I know you can get them cheaper on swappa, eBay, and CL, but I wanted to be the 1st to own it. Great phone, I have 2 weeks to return it if I change my mind.
As far the OP's question, I don't think any phone is worth giving up my unlimited data for.
By the way this phone was cheap full retail. 32GB internal storage for $600 from Verizon store.
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As stated previously I also don't believe there is any phone worth losing unlimited data. Not to take anything away from this device it's awesome don't get me wrong but I would max out a data plan in like three days lol.
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I have an unlimited $14.99 internet plan, and at the TMo store, I was told I had to upgrade it to a $30/month plan to get the upgrade price for the phone. I just walked out.
If anyone finds a good way around this BS, please post.
Are you available for an upgrade? Typically they will grandfather in plans if you are available for your regular upgrade, but if you try to ask for an upgrade early they will force you to more expensive plans.
Your best bet is to call up T-Mobile and talk to their Customer Loyalty/Retention department. Depending on how long you have been with T-Mobile, they work wonders for you, albeit you would have to wait for your phone to arrive in the mail.
I need to fight with them today myself. I have a family plan and already had one phone with a $25 unlimited plan on it. When I added this line they put me on a $30 plan and did not grandfather in the $25 rate.
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Are you available for an upgrade? Typically they will grandfather in plans if you are available for your regular upgrade, but if you try to ask for an upgrade early they will force you to more expensive plans.
Your best bet is to call up T-Mobile and talk to their Customer Loyalty/Retention department. Depending on how long you have been with T-Mobile, they work wonders for you, albeit you would have to wait for your phone to arrive in the mail.
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Will try calling. I was eligible on this line, but they want to force people off the cheaper plans (some nexus users are still on $5.99 plan).
PS - went to their website, and it offered the upgrade, but when I started the process, it popped up a "warning" that I would have to revisit their website after they shipped it and set up an "android" plan.
Tempted to go through the process on my credit card (not on my TMo account credit - so they cannot pull back the upgrade "discount"), and when I get the phone - just put the SIM in and see what happens.
AT $180/year more for the data plan, it would be better for me to just pay the full price. Will get most of it back from my Nexus on eBay if I decide to keep the phone past the remorse period.
Fight harder -- depending on how long you have been with T-Mobile, they will give you their new Android Premium Web for $20 a month.
I have been with them before they officially started up in the US (used them in Germany).
On hold - will see....
Guess what - from customer retention - $99 for the upgrade (not $199), and the $30 "android" plan for $20/month. I also have a 20 day period to return and restore my existing data plan.
From this and one other experience, it appears customer retention should be the way to go as a normal upgrade route (that is how I got the $14.99 unlimited plan a while back).
What's this Android Premium Web? I have been with them for over 5 years on the family account. My work account has been with them since the voicestream days.
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Android Premium Web is just the official name for the $30/month unlimited data plan for Android phones.
That unlimited stuff is bs because its not truly unlimited any how u use over 3gigs for a certain month they drop udown to edge speeds but the only way u will know is if u do a speed test
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jovan285 said:
That unlimited stuff is bs because its not truly unlimited any how u use over 3gigs for a certain month they drop udown to edge speeds but the only way u will know is if u do a speed test
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Would they also be doing that to existing $5.99 - $14.99 "unlimited" plans?
jovan285 said:
That unlimited stuff is bs because its not truly unlimited any how u use over 3gigs for a certain month they drop udown to edge speeds but the only way u will know is if u do a speed test
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First of all, the soft cap is 5 GB, not 3 GB. Secondly, I hear if you live in an area where there is HSPA+, after 5 GB they will drop you to 3G, then after 10 GB they will drop you to edge.
Secondly, it is still "unlimited" because you can still use the Internet -- just at slower speeds.
Lastly, they send you a text message telling you they throttled your speed, so you know. If you have been a customer with T-Mobile for a while, and/or this only happens to you once in a while, calling up T-Mobile can typically get them to remove the throttle.
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Not sure, but they probably do.
i pay $20.00 for unl. inter. you need to call customer care and order your phone from them in order to keep your cheap inter.
I'm not sure why you guys think you deserve the right for an early upgrade when you are currently locked into a 2 year contract. If you try to talk them into it they have no choice but to force you to get the new prices.
I've never understood the purpose of locking yourself into a new 2 year contract every time a new phone comes out. If a new phone is coming out, and you KNOW for a fact you want it, then save up ahead of time and buy it full price. That way you can keep your old grandfather plans with the much cheaper pricing. Or you can do what I'm doing and go with their EM+ solutions, which only T-Mobile offers, and have a much cheaper monthly bill but buy your phones outright. It saves much more money, just sell your current phone on craigslist and pay the difference.
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I was not locked in on the line I upgraded with.
Currently using Nexus from eBay - will be selling it back there IF I decide to keep the 4G. If not, I have 20 days to return and go back to grandfathered plan.
I had been thinking about just paying full price and keeping my $14.99 plan if they had stuck with $30 for the plan.
What is their EM+ solutions and do you know what the EM+ price would be on this device?
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I've never understood the purpose of locking yourself into a new 2 year contract every time a new phone comes out. If a new phone is coming out, and you KNOW for a fact you want it, then save up ahead of time and buy it full price. That way you can keep your old grandfather plans with the much cheaper pricing. Or you can do what I'm doing and go with their EM+ solutions, which only T-Mobile offers, and have a much cheaper monthly bill but buy your phones outright. It saves much more money, just sell your current phone on craigslist and pay the difference.
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Well, it can't get any cheaper than what I'm paying - $30 voice and $20 data. I may get more minutes with EM+, but I don't need them. And, by upgrading I don't have to change plans or anything. So, I get the phone at subsidized pricing as I know I'll be with T-Mo anyway. Furthermore, if I DO need to change providers for any extreme reason, the ETF drops over time, so nothing is lost and everything is gained, at least for me.
My t mobile rep let me stay with my hd2 data plan as long as it worked with the phone. Which it did.
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My t mobile rep let me stay with my hd2 data plan as long as it worked with the phone. Which it did.
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Was that at full price or "upgrade" price?
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I upgraded
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I didn't have this problem at all
I seen a article in Yahoo news that looks like AT&T maybe trying to move ahead with Shared data plans . I for one would love it!!!
Here is the screen shot that was supposedly AT&T system does anyone know how true this is?
But anyways Im hoping.
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u921333 said:
I seen a article in Yahoo news that looks like AT&T maybe trying to move ahead with Shared data plans . I for one would love it!!!
Here is the screen shot that was supposedly AT&T system does anyone know how true this is?
But anyways Im hoping.
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this would make sense, other idea would be to have roll-over-data, just hoping
I had heard this rumor a while back but nothing else up until now. Thanks. I would love this too.
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It makes sense for the end user, but not the company. They'll lose profits if they allow shared data. I for one would love to see it happen though.
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It makes sense for the end user, but not the company. They'll lose profits if they allow shared data. I for one would love to see it happen though.
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LOL ..... well we havent seen a pricing structure yet maybe rediculously priced.
Anxiously waiting for some of those details to leak
In one sense, it does make some sense for the company. Lots of people are getting both tablets and phones. If they can share a data plan between them, it might spur sales of a tablet. I know a lot of people who would not get a second device because they don't want that second data plan. I was one of those that didn't want the second data plan. So I got a wifi-only tablet and tethering on my phone. But, from an ATT perspective, they might come out ahead if they used their fast LTE for the small screens of phones and let folks use the older Edge and 3G for their tablets at a decreased price because it spreads their data load.
I work for Att, and I know its going to half and half. Good cuz now you can have one set price bad cuz you need to think about what if lil Johnny uses up all my data... What do I do, oh I know get hit with overcharge... Att is about to make bank. Wait. And see.gghf
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I'm a member of a private site that pays people to take marketing surveys and just completed one about ATTs data proposed sharing plan. So it will most likely be coming in the near future.
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I work for Att, and I know its going to half and half. Good cuz now you can have one set price bad cuz you need to think about what if lil Johnny uses up all my data... What do I do, oh I know get hit with overcharge... Att is about to make bank. Wait. And see.gghf
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I smack lil Johnny around a little and give him my old nokia laying around first time it happens lol.
I use around 3 gig tops on 4 smartphone lines combined. So Im hoping they will go with at least a 5 gig tier so that I have a little room for oops.
We were talking about that this morning. I can't imagine what kind of data my son would use if i let him turn on data. That 10yr old is a dloading fool
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I work for Att, and I know its going to half and half. Good cuz now you can have one set price bad cuz you need to think about what if lil Johnny uses up all my data... What do I do, oh I know get hit with overcharge... Att is about to make bank. Wait. And see.gghf
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Verizon announced shared data beginning June 28th, AT&T will probably follow suit shortly.
verizon_share_everything_plan_details.pdf
Compared VZW's plans with my current AT&T plan (FT w/ 3 devices) and it's within about $5 of what I'm paying now.
+ is tethering on all devices without paying for the top tier.
- is overages are $15 / GB.
Verizon's new share everything plan is everything I was afraid of. Instead if choice they force the customers hand into buying a service they don't want. I'm on AT&T and I look forward to see what they offer, but if it is similar I won't be saving money, I'll be paying more while getting less data, more minutes than I use and more texts than I need. This is the perfect plan for the top tier users but for the average joe this is a slap in the face.
Saw this on Verizon's shared data plans:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-data-plans-go-live-june-28/
If I'm reading that right, you pay a base of $50 for the lowest tier, plus $40 per smartphone. That seems to me to be more than I'm paying now for a total of 4GB on 2 phones plus a dumb phone ($70 base + $80 for smartphones + $30 for the dumb phone = $180 + tax). Maybe not a lot more, but more nonetheless.
If there is a similar price point for the AT&T plans, I may consider it based on whatever my average data is, but that remains to be seen. I'm guessing with Verizon's announcement that we'll see something soon.
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Saw this on Verizon's shared data plans:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-data-plans-go-live-june-28/
If I'm reading that right, you pay a base of $50 for the lowest tier, plus $40 per smartphone. That seems to me to be more than I'm paying now for a total of 4GB on 2 phones plus a dumb phone ($70 base + $80 for smartphones + $30 for the dumb phone = $180 + tax). Maybe not a lot more, but more nonetheless.
If there is a similar price point for the AT&T plans, I may consider it based on whatever my average data is, but that remains to be seen. I'm guessing with Verizon's announcement that we'll see something soon.
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I have something similar on att, base plan at $80, with two smart phones at unlimited data and texts and 1200 minutes to share, the base plan has a dumb phone with unlimited data and texts as well
So 80+9+9+30+30, and don't forget about rolling over unsed minutes.
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... Instead if choice they force the customers hand into buying a service they don't want...
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I'm certain AT&T will do something similar. That's how they have things setup for texting now, either pay $20/month for unlimited or $.20/message and get 100 messages for the same $20, nothing in between like $10 for 500 messages, etc.
The statement that VZW is making is that minutes and texts no longer matter, they are commodity features now. The cash cow is data, which is why they bumped their data overage from $10/GB to $15/GB.
I would probably switch to a shared plan, currently have 3 phones with 3GB, 3GB, and 4GB+tether and it would be nice for me to be able to use the balance of the 2 3GB plans in a month that I do a lot of tethering.
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I'm certain AT&T will do something similar. That's how they have things setup for texting now, either pay $20/month for unlimited or $.20/message and get 100 messages for the same $20, nothing in between like $10 for 500 messages, etc.
The statement that VZW is making is that minutes and texts no longer matter, they are commodity features now. The cash cow is data, which is why they bumped their data overage from $10/GB to $15/GB.
I would probably switch to a shared plan, currently have 3 phones with 3GB, 3GB, and 4GB+tether and it would be nice for me to be able to use the balance of the 2 3GB plans in a month that I do a lot of tethering.
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Another reason why USA is slowly but steadily falling behind other developed countries. What ATT and VZW just did was overpaid for spectrum knowing that there is no true competition and they can charge whatever they want. Now they will have customers pay by the teeth for data.
The end game is that everyone else but the cellular provider loses. Customers pay more so they will buy less cellular equipment and use less. I for one will let go my personal cell phone and use company phone only. Fewer people will buy data enabled tablets. This impacts a whole slew of downstream app develops providers etc as well.
A family data share option would be great if they do it like their other plans.. offer several different size family packages like ex.
1. 2gb family
2. 3 gb family
3. 4 gb family
4. 5 gb family and so on until
5. Unlimited. And be truley unlimited family...
And if you should so choose option 1-4 let the unused balance roll over to the next month. If a company would offer this, data plans taylored to the customers needs and wants. Why have these big companies like att got away from giving their customers what they actually want and giving them what they pay for..
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AT&T announces Mobile Share: www.att.com/mobileshare
Surprisingly similar to VZW's offering.
I wonder how AT&T is going to handle discounts with the new plans. Previously only certain thing were discounted with my corp premier discount. Either way, this looks a bit more expensive for my situation.
I have 4 lines. One smart phone (unlimited data(don't really use more then 5 gigs)) and 3 dumb phones (2 of which don't have data). For the same price I'm paying now I could have data on all my lines with unlimited talk (already have unlimited txt). I'll be looking into it for sure. Just cause they offer it doesn't mean its for you or you need it or that they are "forcing" it on you.
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Obviously the new data plans following suit of the other carriers in killing unlimited, reducing data costs to Big Red is nothing new. The fact our Thunderbolts have been having all kinds of data drop issues (regardless of ROM) is just evident they're even further making efforts to eff us in our rears. I've been eligible for an upgrade for some time but am obviously holding out to maintain my unlimited.. but now I find myself trying to find a Verizon phone elsewhere (craigs list, ebay, etc) just so I don't have to upgrade via Verizon.
Is it true even if we purchase another phone on our own, in activating it, they'll force the change?
Anyone have any recent ROM/radio recommendations that are stable? I swear, it doesn't matter what I flash, my TB is slowly dying and I the conspiracy theorist in me tells me Verizon has placed some moles in the dev community to eff up our stuff (unlikely but possible).
You will only lose your contract if you use your upgrade with them. You can activate any compatible phone on your current contract without losing any of the features (unlimited data) the only exception being for anyone currently on a 3g device cannot activate a 4g phone.
I am using SkyRaider and average around 5gb a month of data usage and haven't noticed any more data lag or drops than normal.
Wait so if I buy a Verizon phone from CL or Ebay I can use my current plan on my TB?
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Wait so if I buy a Verizon phone from CL or Ebay I can use my current plan on my TB?
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Yes. I just switched from the thunderbolt to a eBay inc 4g yesterday.
My plan is expired too on month to month. Unlimited forever and no contract.
Actually, their just out to make money, like businesses are supposed to do. Things change. This is actually going to lower my bill because after i get my replacement, im dropping the insurance. Wont need it, buy phones on ebay, keep unlimited. I dont need latest and greatest. Dont like the new galaxy, feels cheap. In another few months, ill pick up a rezound
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Actually, their just out to make money, like businesses are supposed to do. Things change. This is actually going to lower my bill because after i get my replacement, im dropping the insurance. Wont need it, buy phones on ebay, keep unlimited. I dont need latest and greatest. Dont like the new galaxy, feels cheap. In another few months, ill pick up a rezound
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Saying they're out to get us doesn't mean I don't understand their position or their motives, haha. Heck, I'd do the same thing. Glad to hear though that I can still get my own devices and activate under the same plan, that alone can keep me on Big Red so it's much appreciated. I'll also check out SkyRaider, last I tried, I had issues but don't remember what they were. Thanks all.
They aren't 'out to get us'. They just want to give you as little as possible while charging as much as possible. The fact that there isn't competition in the cellular market means no one is fighting for customers. Just wait 2 or 3 years and Verizon will be broken up like AT&T before... If we're lucky that is.
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They are definitely and obviously in the this game for PROFIT, MONEY, DINERO, MOOLAH, etc,......!!!
Look at the hard facts.
Quite eye-opening really, in case you didn't have a real picture as to HOW much they are really making on us while giving us less.
I just don't think I'll ever appreciate them removing Unlimited data. It may help some people.
But It doesn't make things cheaper or better in my situation, but so long as I can buy retail and not ever be forced over, I'll stay.
The day they force me into a new contract after my current one is up, I'm out.
Just thought I'd post that link for their earnings report from this Quarter, as they just released it and it pretty well sums up this thread.
Just talked to Vzn cust serv, they said (for whatever it's worth) that if you upgrade using the disc phone price, you'll be switched over OFF unlimited. To keep unlimited you csn purchase Vzn offered phone at full retail w/out contract, or privately purchase any Vzn compatible phone and activate w/out contract. I asked what stops Vzn in three months from saying "you have no contract with Vzn, buy our new plan or we'll drop you"... She said, nothing stops them from sayinv that, Vzn isn't bound by a contract. Either way, my TB runs so well, I have no problem keeping it another year, maybe two!
Running Thundershed v1.6_CM7.2, imo lean kernel 6.2.1 (#1 normal -undervolted, 184-1408) with the .9 radios... Got 6hrs of uninterrupted use, a few days ago. (Internet, tons of YouTube videos, online games, text/calls, FB, phone gaming, etc. jumping from one to the other) just to see how long it would go. 6hrs 11min with 18% batt life remaining. 15 hrs heavy-moderate use with 29% batt life remaining. This is w/out 4G (not avail here yet) and using Rezound standard batt... Even without the better battery life, the TB works very well in this config, and operates incredibly smooth, and very reliably.
Is it worth running with my smooth TB another year to keep $300 in my pocket and not lose unlimited pkg (upgrade)? Or is it worth keeping $500-600 in my pocket (not paying full retail just to have a newer, slightly better phone)? ABSOFREAKINLUTELY worth it! Well played Quietly Rooted TB, well played.
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How about this thought. I'm on a shared 10GB plan with 3 other phones. I noticed that Verizon made sure that there was NO way to disable that stupid backup service that I can find. So it sounds to me like they're TRYING to make people go over their limited data plan if they can.
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Shadow Death said:
How about this thought. I'm on a shared 10GB plan with 3 other phones. I noticed that Verizon made sure that there was NO way to disable that stupid backup service that I can find. So it sounds to me like they're TRYING to make people go over their limited data plan if they can.
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As long as you are a member of the account online then backup assistant is free every month, and they say it is airtime free.. its only your contacts and its done over cellular ( not data plan ) - i have a dumb phone on my account and they have their backup ( no data )
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They are definitely and obviously in the this game for PROFIT, MONEY, DINERO, MOOLAH, etc,......!!!
Look at the hard facts.
Quite eye-opening really, in case you didn't have a real picture as to HOW much they are really making on us while giving us less.
I just don't think I'll ever appreciate them removing Unlimited data. It may help some people.
But It doesn't make things cheaper or better in my situation, but so long as I can buy retail and not ever be forced over, I'll stay.
The day they force me into a new contract after my current one is up, I'm out.
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I had a recent experience which may shed some light on the situation. I have a TB with unlimited data, but until recently, that was part of a family plan through my parents (for convenience.) Well, without realizing what they were doing, they got manipulated by a VZW salesperson to change their family plan to the bundled data plan - in exchange for two free smart phones and a free hotspot device. Of course, my unlimited plan went byebye as a result. I calmly called customer service the second I heard they had gotten smart phones and explained that there had been a mistake, and that the plan change was supposed to exclude my phone.
Well, the CS person was very helpful, and offered to remove my line from their account, and restore the unlimited data on a new account under my name, at the 2008 (when I had gotten a smartphone originally) single-subscriber price. It barely took any coaxing, and she was quick to offer me that compromise, after I suggested my parents had been purposefully misled (which I am sure they were - I figure the salesperson gets a bonus for every unlimited line he scraps.)
My point? If they still have the ability to create an entirely new account with unlimited data based on prices from 4 years ago, I am sure that they can still renew the unlimited contracts if given a good enough reason. I suppose the trick is coming up with a good reason...
You can keep unlimited data as long as you don't get a new subsidized phone. Pay full price for new phone and you can keep unlimited data.
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You can keep unlimited data as long as you don't get a new subsidized phone. Pay full price for new phone and you can keep unlimited data.
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Yeah that's pretty common knowledge by now I think.
My concern is when will that option end?
Once my current contract is up, there's nothing carved in stone that says they won't change things.
They could very well decide to try and force anyone with a smartphone on their network into a new data plan or simply only offer you voice.
I guess I just wonder how long will they allow grandfathered Unlimited data users to keep that, beyond their contract end date.
Nobody really knows.
I guess ill see first .. I'm on month to month right now with unlimited.
Yep, that's the caveat of unlimited data ; no contract. Technically, 5 minutes after you end your contract by buying a full retail phone, or keeping your existing phone (as I plan to do), Vzn can disconnect you and bill you for 5 minutes Obviously they wouldn't do this, but no contract means no promises.
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razr maxx is old now yet full retail hasnt changed. does anyone sell brand new smartphones at lower prices as they age? best buy certainly doesnt. I prefer not to deal with private sales through ebay or swappa but would deal with amazon or new egg or a well know dealer online. a brick and mortar store would be my preference but it appears they only put phones on sale with a plan, never put brand new no contract phones on sale.
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razr maxx is old now yet full retail hasnt changed. does anyone sell brand new smartphones at lower prices as they age? best buy certainly doesnt. I prefer not to deal with private sales through ebay or swappa but would deal with amazon or new egg or a well know dealer online. a brick and mortar store would be my preference but it appears they only put phones on sale with a plan, never put brand new no contract phones on sale.
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Yeah Verizon's phone prices are high. The Droid Incredible, till the day it was discontinued, costed $549.99 or whatever full retail, even though new Droid Incredibles were going on eBay for half that. And damn, the Droid Charge is $99 with 2 year contract RIGHT NOW. So is the Galaxy Nexus.
If I can talk a rep into giving me unlimited data or rather letting me keep unlimited when upgrading, well I would not be totally against organized bribing, sort of like tips for waiters and waitresses, of course we know that's not happening.
Too bad Verizon doesn't have an S in its name, I, along with everyone else on here would replace that S with a $ so fast...
Hahaha. Yeah. Verizon wirele$$
*Thunderbolt 4G*
http://m.engadget.com/2012/07/31/ve...-10th/?utm_source=engadget&utm_medium=twitter check this out. This is what i have
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Broke my S3, and would like to upgrade to the Moto X. Unfortunately, I have the unlimited data upgrade. Our family plan has 5 lines. 1 unlimited smart, 1 tiered smart, and 3 dumb phones. I've searched and heard NUMEROUS stories on how to keep unlimited data, and read comments from people about how none of those work. I figured the XDA folks may be a bit more knowledgeable than some other forums, so I'm trying my hand here. I've heard a few different ways to do it:
1. Transfer my upgrade through myverizon to a dumb line and then upgrade. (Verizon alone has given me about 4 different answers on if this would void my UDP)
2. Find a retailer that would work things around and keep my UDP. (Found a guy, verizonchris, on a different site that said he could do this for me most likely, but he needs my billing password. Naturally, Im reluctant to give it out)
3. Transfer upgrade on myverizon, go to a store and get a upgrade voucher for motomaker, then upgrade through motomaker and it will keep my UDP.
I've heard of some others, as I'm sure you guys have, and am really just looking for some sort of verification for this from some smart peeps!
(Sidenote, I'm also going to claim the S3 on Asurion. Does anyone know what Asurion is giving people for broken vzw S3's? Heard a few different things, maybe an upgrade through that would be possible?)
Thanks!
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Broke my S3, and would like to upgrade to the Moto X. Unfortunately, I have the unlimited data upgrade. Our family plan has 5 lines. 1 unlimited smart, 1 tiered smart, and 3 dumb phones. I've searched and heard NUMEROUS stories on how to keep unlimited data, and read comments from people about how none of those work. I figured the XDA folks may be a bit more knowledgeable than some other forums, so I'm trying my hand here. I've heard a few different ways to do it:
1. Transfer my upgrade through myverizon to a dumb line and then upgrade. (Verizon alone has given me about 4 different answers on if this would void my UDP)
2. Find a retailer that would work things around and keep my UDP. (Found a guy, verizonchris, on a different site that said he could do this for me most likely, but he needs my billing password. Naturally, Im reluctant to give it out)
3. Transfer upgrade on myverizon, go to a store and get a upgrade voucher for motomaker, then upgrade through motomaker and it will keep my UDP.
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4. Buy the Moto X outright and pop your SIM in.
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4. Buy the Moto X outright and pop your SIM in.
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Thanks, trying to avoid that.
Sounds like you may be overthinking this, or something has changed that I'm not aware of.
You can't do anything with the upgrade available on your unlimited line. If you do, this will most likely reset your line to tiered data.
The upgrade would need to be on the dumb phone line.
You would upgrade that dumb phone's line to the phone you want.
When the phone comes, call up Verizon and activate the new phone on your line.
Double check with Verizon that the data plan will not activate on the dumb phone's line.
Enjoy your new phone with unlimited data! Too bad the person who uses that dumb phone won't have an upgrade for another couple years.
If other lines on the account have upgrades available all you will need to do is update using one of the other updates. The line yoy used for the upgrade will now have a 2gb plan but you don't activate with that line. Just put your SIM in and you will still have your UNLIMITED DATA. Hope this helped.
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You can't do anything with the upgrade available on your unlimited line. If you do, this will most likely reset your line to tiered data.
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The 'new every two' was discontinued 2 years ago. The reason you get a new subsidized phone price is because you're re-entering into a contract with verizon... so it's like it's a new contract/line. You don't have credits and there's nothing to transfer, but if your contract is up, you can get the 'new' price. Unless you have unlimited data... you do that and they'll move you to a 'share everything' plan.
I've been told Costco will generally eat the cost of the phone, just to sell you one at the 'new' price and get the credit for your business. You keep the unlimited data and Verizon thinks you paid full retail. I can't confirm that plan will work for you, but many here have said that's worked for them.
Personally, I'm in the EDGE program. Pay $16-30/month more for a new device, keep my unlimited data and every 12 months, get to pick a new device. Yes, you're paying $200-360 for the phone, but A- that's not much more than the 'new' price', B- you get to keep unlimited data, C- you get a new phone every 1 year, rather than 2 years with re-entering a contract and D- you were probably going to pay that much for a phone off eBay anyway if you have unlimited data. Dunno if that makes sense for someone with so many lines, but if you keep it to 1-2 lines and really need that data (like I do), then it makes perfect fiscal sense.
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The 'new every two' was discontinued 2 years ago. The reason you get a new subsidized phone price is because you're re-entering into a contract with verizon... so it's like it's a new contract/line. You don't have credits and there's nothing to transfer, but if your contract is up, you can get the 'new' price. Unless you have unlimited data... you do that and they'll move you to a 'share everything' plan.
I've been told Costco will generally eat the cost of the phone, just to sell you one at the 'new' price and get the credit for your business. You keep the unlimited data and Verizon thinks you paid full retail. I can't confirm that plan will work for you, but many here have said that's worked for them.
Personally, I'm in the EDGE program. Pay $16-30/month more for a new device, keep my unlimited data and every 12 months, get to pick a new device. Yes, you're paying $200-360 for the phone, but A- that's not much more than the 'new' price', B- you get to keep unlimited data, C- you get a new phone every 1 year, rather than 2 years with re-entering a contract and D- you were probably going to pay that much for a phone off eBay anyway if you have unlimited data. Dunno if that makes sense for someone with so many lines, but if you keep it to 1-2 lines and really need that data (like I do), then it makes perfect fiscal sense.
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Thanks, I may look into that if I run out of options.
Has anyone ever heard of this working? Seems like a HUGE loophole if it really works.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...nlimited-data-get-phone-subsidized-price.html
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Has anyone ever heard of this working? Seems like a HUGE loophole if it really works.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...nlimited-data-get-phone-subsidized-price.html
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That's a huge flaw in Best Buy's system if it works. Because the purchase of the new phone requires a re-entry into contract and VZ specifically has blocks on subsidized phone prices on grandfathered data plans. Not even GMs in Verizon stores can override it... I've tried.
So basically, you're placing a 3rd party order and because Best Buy can't send you a live sim card (only VZ can), you swap it for your current one and VZ is never the wiser. Clever, but tread lightly and quickly.. I can't imagine this flaw will remain open for long.
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Broke my S3, and would like to upgrade to the Moto X. Unfortunately, I have the unlimited data upgrade. Our family plan has 5 lines. 1 unlimited smart, 1 tiered smart, and 3 dumb phones. I've searched and heard NUMEROUS stories on how to keep unlimited data, and read comments from people about how none of those work. I figured the XDA folks may be a bit more knowledgeable than some other forums, so I'm trying my hand here. I've heard a few different ways to do it:
1. Transfer my upgrade through myverizon to a dumb line and then upgrade. (Verizon alone has given me about 4 different answers on if this would void my UDP)
Thanks!
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I have done this many times. If the upgrade is on your unlimited data plane line, log into VZ website and transfer it to the tiered smart line. When you phone arrived, call VZ and activate on your unlimited data line.
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I have done this many times. If the upgrade is on your unlimited data plane line, log into VZ website and transfer it to the tiered smart line. When you phone arrived, call VZ and activate on your unlimited data line.
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Ive done this twice as well. I went to the store and did this. They understood what I was doing too. They didn't care. They thought it was smart. Just transfer the upgrade to a dumbline and then upgrade. Then have them activate it under ur unlimited line.
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I have done this many times. If the upgrade is on your unlimited data plane line, log into VZ website and transfer it to the tiered smart line. When you phone arrived, call VZ and activate on your unlimited data line.
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Just a quick update for everyone:
I couldn't update because of my talk plan. Since I claimed my broken screen through Asurion, I talked them into making a "one-time" exception and sending me a brand new S4 instead of another S3.
I'm selling the S4 and buying a Moto X. They told me they're in and out of them. I convinced them to send me a new S4 (as a "one time" exception because of my great history).
Im going to sell the S4 and buy a Moto X.
I already convinced Motorola to send me a free case and $50 off coupon. Awesome deal! :victory::victory:
Suck it Verizon!
UNLIMITED FOREVER!! :laugh::highfive:
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Just a quick update for everyone:
I couldn't update because of my talk plan. Since I claimed my broken screen through Asurion, I talked them into making a "one-time" exception and sending me a brand new S4 instead of another S3.
I'm selling the S4 and buying a Moto X. They told me they're in and out of them. I convinced them to send me a new S4 (as a "one time" exception because of my great history).
Im going to sell the S4 and buy a Moto X.
I already convinced Motorola to send me a free case and $50 off coupon. Awesome deal! :victory::victory:
Suck it Verizon!
UNLIMITED FOREVER!! :laugh::highfive:
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Nice move! I'm jealous!
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Nice move! I'm jealous!
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Now you'll be really jealous. Since they have that $100 off sale Monday, I conned free Royal Blue earbuds and the anti-glare film out of them! I'm still gonna call back Monday to see what they're doing for the people who just ordered them too lol
Or should i say price hike either way I'll just leave this here
http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/08/verizon-unlimited-data-price-increase/
A few weeks ago right after receiving my phone I had a question and stopped into a VZ store. After looking over my phone, it was the first Pure they had seen, they told me good luck holding onto my UDP. They were not specific but insinuated something was coming down from up top. I was told we have two types of customers. contract..... and data hogs. They may not have known exactly that this increase was taking place but they seemed to know something was coming.
I'm not sure how I'm going to handle the change. I am happy I have an unlocked phone that gives me choice of any carry should I decide to move on. Glad they don't mind losing me. I've been a customer for a long time because the other carrier's coverage WAS terrible. It's not so bad now.
Thank God I'm still on an unlimited data contract for another year
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I don't think this is a big deal at all. An extra $240 a year. If i were making 5 bucks an hour, might hurt a bit. Fact of the matter is, it was a good run. We were getting away with murder at 30 bucks a month for unlimited. Kinda unfair that we pay less than 2GB of data tiers.
Should be thankful and not feeling spited. Verizon doesn't have to keep unlimited data to OGs, yet they do.
Agree with above post. Us 1% have most definitely benefitted for years. I'm understanding that legacy UDP people will not be affected.
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the whole thing caught me of guard and I agree it was a good run..... at least they didn't just revoke the UDP from us all together
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I don't think this is a big deal at all. An extra $240 a year.
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Yeah? Multiply that times three.
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Yeah? Multiply that times three.
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Multiply what, times 3?
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Multiply what, times 3?
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$240. I have three unlimited lines.
Darkestred said:
I don't think this is a big deal at all. An extra $240 a year. If i were making 5 bucks an hour, might hurt a bit. Fact of the matter is, it was a good run. We were getting away with murder at 30 bucks a month for unlimited. Kinda unfair that we pay less than 2GB of data tiers.
Should be thankful and not feeling spited. Verizon doesn't have to keep unlimited data to OGs, yet they do.
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($30/month) + (I don't remember any reduction after my initial device subsidy was paid off, on my OG Incredible..... 2011.) =
Seems to me we have already been paying to play.
35 gigs so far this month, and my cycle ends the 21st...yeah, let's see how your wonderful plans would save me money, eh verizon? lmao. I'll pay it. it's still better than going to att or crap t-mobile.
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I lost my unlimited data long ago. :crying:
Obviously Verizon RIPS us all off when our phone is paid for but we still pay full price on contract!
And nobody likes a price increase on anything!
But for those who do have unlimited data, and are complaining about the rate hike....just be glad they haven't pulled the whole carpet out from under you! Yet, that is.....
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I'm about in the same boat as you, only I have 2 unlimited lines and not 3, so I understand. Maybe your situation is more like mine, in that we don't have any sort of broadband options where we live, so we both use a lot of data. However, I'm thinking that using my phone as my home ISP with it connecting to my router, may help to decrease some data useage on my other line.
We will probably test out using my phone as the primary ISP and connecting her phone to that wifi to see if that will help reduce her data usage enough to justify moving her to a tiered plan. Maybe a similar configuration may help you out as well?
I'm dumping Verizon just before I finish out this billing cycle. I'm sick of their shenanigans. My plan is to rack up 500gb of data (UDP) before I give them the finger.
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Verizon wants the $. They already are robbing people.
Well if they're concerned about 'data hogs', it's gonna get a whole lot worse if we're made to pay more for the service. Won't have any qualm about using as much data as I can now. The max I've used is 35g on vacation. That'll be chump change...
At some point it will need to go the other direction. Consumers are being screwed by data caps while carriers are pushing LTE and high def content. Not to mention cloud to access your own content.
Hell, I'm just pissed I have to pay what I do and my kids spend most of their time on WiFi. Why brag about service if the end result is you spend 99% of your time worrying about that?
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I've been f***ing around with my plan to see what I can do when the rate hike comes. It looks like I can cut my talk minutes back so the increase will "only" cost me $30 over all three of my lines. I guess I can't complain too much, since I've had a promo since 2010, that made my unlimited data only $9.95/mo on each line.