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The Sensation is not what you want.This device may fall under the category with the Droid X and the Atrix. There is barely any support for either device. I suggest you ride it out with the G2X because support and roms will come in a bundle sooner or later. The sensation is tempting but once you do your initial setup than what?
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U are right plus no HDMI mirroring
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charlieb620 said:
The sensation is tempting but once you do your initial setup than what?
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I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.

BarryH_GEG said:
I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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I am too. Ill have to see what happens.
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BarryH_GEG said:
I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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The atrix is motorola's flagship phone as well.
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BarryH_GEG said:
I'll have a working phone
But seriously, I'm a gadget whore. If it's shiny I'm one of the first to own it. I can't use cooked ROMs because everyone I've used (and I've used some of the greats) leave me f-d trying to register on foreign networks. I agree with you up to a point about dev support for the Sensation. Keep in mind it's HTC's flagship phone and will be highly sought after worldwide (as will the SGS2). Based on its popularity, I'm guessing it'll get some dev love.
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If your happy w/ the level of dev love that the Dx and Atrix get, then you'll be fine. Note that their ROMS are quite limited due to the lock down.

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U are right plus no HDMI mirroring
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This is the feature that kept me on the g2x.
Also the extra ram and processer power that the sensation has is for sense ui to run smooth.
Cant wait until new kernels arrive that will make the tegra a crazy powerhouse. The phone has been out for about two weeks, give it some time for the devs to get a hold of it. The nexus s for the first 2 months had a really lame dev section.

babluc said:
This is the feature that kept me on the g2x.
Also the extra ram and processer power that the sensation has is for sense ui to run smooth.
Cant wait until new kernels arrive that will make the tegra a crazy powerhouse. The phone has been out for about two weeks, give it some time for the devs to get a hold of it. The nexus s for the first 2 months had a really lame dev section.
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Yep and look at it now.
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mapin0518 said:
If your happy w/ the level of dev love that the Dx and Atrix get, then you'll be fine. Note that their ROMS are quite limited due to the lock down.
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Wouldn't the Thunderbolt be a better comparison to the Sensation rather than those Motorola phones since Motorola uses a different method of locking down their devices?
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DeezNotes said:
Wouldn't the Thunderbolt be a better comparison to the Sensation rather than those Motorola phones since Motorola uses a different method of locking down their devices?
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No because the only reason the THunderbolt was unlocked was because of a leaked old ROM that wasn't locked down. Total luck.

I just came from an atrix and there is one dev cooking roms. (He has two). While they were both awesome its not a whole lot...we have more development here in two weeks then they had in 3 months. The atrix has more ram which is its only advantage....I always had like 700 mb ram available.....so for me the extra ram didn't benefit me. I was tempted to get the nexus s due to it being pure google but the fact that its a samsung phone (had alot of problems with galaxy s) and with dual core phones coming out I figured I would skip it. The g2x is what the nexus s should have shipped with. Dual core tegra.
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Motorola was a big name in Android because of the $100MM in marketing they and Verizon spent to put Android on the map with the "Droid does" campaign. Once HTC and Samsung got with the program Motorola's market share has been steadily declining. They're also primarily a North American player where Samsung and HTC are global. Both the SGS2 and Sensation will each individually sell more units than the entire Motorola Android product line. Spec wise the Atrix is a good comparison but sales and acceptance wise not so much. I at least give them credit for going back to the drawing board on the Bionic rather than launching what would have been an already dated phone.
Assuming all future Samsung and HTC phones are based off the internals of the SGS2 and Sensation, the impact of what you're saying is devs are going to stop working on Samsung and HTC phones. I find that hard to accept. Especially when the SGS2 and Sensation (and their derivatives) are expected to sell in the millions of units. Only time will tell.

Ice Cream Sandwich ROM

Is it just me or is there a complete lack of development for roms and themes with not only ics beta builds, but any other roms whether its tw or aosp . Has source for gingerbread or ics been released? Im recieving a free droid charge from work and i was lookin forward to getting a verizon phone comin frm At&T Desire HD but i see theres less development here. Does verizon usually lock all of their bootloaders to where source wont be released? Maybe i shoulda picked the Thunderbolt? Im new to verizon srry guys

There was a lot more development with FE version. The GB source just got released 2 weeks ago. So it's early. The main reason AOSP isn't available is because the RIL(Samsung) hasn't been released. And it probably won't because it isn't required.
But with the release of the Nexus and its very similar radio(google) and it's RIL there is hope that ICS will come out. Imnuts has stated that he will look into development. I don't want to overstate his position so I'll let him say what he wants if he decides to here.
Development isn't as robust on some phones. But I believe we will have a Renaissance period soon with GB source released and the Nexus software.
And one should remember any development is done on their time and sacrifice. We should maintain a patient attitude. Complaining doesn't help our cause. 1 complaint is no big deal but add that to a few other vocal folks and people get mad and stop releasing their software.

i kno that they have lives outside of this but i was just sharing what i noticed. Im prob gonna join development for porting after i finish my army IT training.
thanks bro for answering my question

boimarc89 said:
i kno that they have lives outside of this but i was just sharing what i noticed. Im prob gonna join development for porting after i finish my army IT training.
thanks bro for answering my question
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I would call my post a cautious attempt to answer your question from the info I learned reading from the more educated folks here about this stuff mixed in with MHO. So other responses may come that help shed light on your question.
That would be great if you could join an help out the community. I know I nothing more than a leecher. With the explosion of android based phones I wished I had learned all about linux.
But anyway, development isn't totally dead. Just slow right now. I think(hope) it will pick back up with the new releases out.

This thread is beating a dead horse. If you would bother searching you would find many threads and posts asking the same thing. Even if development had stopped, there are plenty of options to make your phone fast and stable.
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I just hope this is a troll...
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No longer the hot phone, that's all
I have been unable to find sales statistics by model, but even though the Charge is one of Verizon's more favored 4G phones, it is not the most interesting or performant phone out there now, if it ever was. Anyone in the market for a new high-end phone is likely waiting for the Galaxy Nexus, they are not likely to commit to a Charge at this point.
The folks who are most enthusiastic and productive in creating new ROMs and kernels have probably moved on to other phones. Not that there aren't still some great folks still working on the Charge, there are, but much of the herd has migrated elsewhere.
I have no inside knowledge, I don't know any of these people, I just know how developers tend to behave.
Sorry about all this, as others have pointed out, you still have options to make it a quite adequate phone.
Myself, I have come to the conclusion that Verizon's 4G is overrated - when it's good, it's great, but I am on 3G much of the time even though I live and work in metropolitan Boston.
My $.02

Yeah, faster internet speeds are overrated -_-

The point is I'm not paying for it. I won't even be in a contract. My job is giving me this phone for free and very heavily discount my plan. When I leave for the army in May and quit my job I have now, I have to give it back and switch my plan to a consumer contract plan if I wanna stay with vzw. I only had a choice of the charge, thunderbolt,and stratosphere. I ain't pick the thunderbolt bcuz my att inspire is the same thing and development is popping and on fire over there. Also picked charge over thunderbolt is bcuz of a 1600mAh battery vs 1400mAh in the thunderbolt
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Plus the the GPU processor in the charge is better than in the thunderbolt and my inspire. I wont buy the vzw nexus or the galaxy s3 until I finish army basic training cuz I can't have a phone anyway during that time anyway. I would have to leave it home until I get out
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I find it strange that people don't recognize how great the Charge hardware is. People think its a bad phone without spending any time optimizing it.
I for one think the Charge is the best single-core phone you can get. I personally feel that dual-core phones are largely a marketing ploy.
Multi-core is undoubtedly the future of phones, however, for most tasks its unnecessary.
To me it sounds like most of the whiners are just gamers who want more FPS for their gaming sessions. If you take the time to learn how to optimize the phone, its tough to beat the Charge.
Some things don't matter to some people such as the audio hub.
Wake me up when you find a better phone that has the Wolfson DAC, SAMOLED+, and 4G on Verizon.

xdadevnube said:
I personally feel that dual-core phones are largely a marketing ploy. Multi-core is undoubtedly the future of phones, however, for most tasks its unnecessary.
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This is simply not true, and dual-core is not a marketing ploy. Spend some time using a dual-core phone as a daily driver -- there's a substantial, noticeable difference in OS performance, for everything from just opening apps to multitasking, and anyone who says otherwise is either lying or intentionally deluding themselves.
I just don't understand why people find it so hard to accept that in 7-8 months, even the best phone will no longer be the best. That's just how technology works, whether it's a phone or computer.

I have spent time with all the new Verizon phones. My Charge is snappier than the stock Nexus by a fair margin. It is heavily nodded though. My Charge is snappier the the stock Razr as well. This dual core argument is all over the web.
If you like it, buy it. It provides the manufacturers the funding to make new great products.
It's hard to hear anything but whining on threads like these.
If you are too lazy to learn to modify and optimize your phone, so then either provide reasoning to back up your argument or go back to playing your video games.
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I would say this is the best single core LTE phone on Verizon. It has the best screen, the best processor/GPU, biggest battery, hot-swappable SD/SIM, hardware android buttons.. I've had and used a Thunderbolt, a Revolution and now the Charge and this phone is significantly better than those.

boimarc89 said:
The point is I'm not paying for it. I won't even be in a contract. My job is giving me this phone for free and very heavily discount my plan. When I leave for the army in May and quit my job I have now, I have to give it back and switch my plan to a consumer contract plan if I wanna stay with vzw. I only had a choice of the charge, thunderbolt,and stratosphere. I ain't pick the thunderbolt bcuz my att inspire is the same thing and development is popping and on fire over there. Also picked charge over thunderbolt is bcuz of a 1600mAh battery vs 1400mAh in the thunderbolt
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Even with the development in place, the Charge is still a better choice over the TBolt or Stratosphere.
P.S. Infinity has been running great for me as a GB ROM, there are a few themes out for it now. Plus, I'm real confident that we're going to get ICS to run on the Charge. I can't say it will happen within a week or even a month, but I'm pretty sure it's going to happen. And at that point, you can bet we'll see AOSP ICS, CM9, and a slew of other ICS ROMs to hold us over until we all ***** and moan about getting Jelly Bean to work!

KarateExplosion6 said:
Even with the development in place, the Charge is still a better choice over the TBolt or Stratosphere.
P.S. Infinity has been running great for me as a GB ROM, there are a few themes out for it now. Plus, I'm real confident that we're going to get ICS to run on the Charge. I can't say it will happen within a week or even a month, but I'm pretty sure it's going to happen. And at that point, you can bet we'll see AOSP ICS, CM9, and a slew of other ICS ROMs to hold us over until we all ***** and moan about getting Jelly Bean to work!
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True that lol
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Newbie needs help
xdadevnube said:
I have spent time with all the new Verizon phones. My Charge is snappier than the stock Nexus by a fair margin. It is heavily nodded though. My Charge is snappier the the stock Razr as well. This dual core argument is all over the web.
Hi, I just bought a Charge and am new with android phone, could you please help and let me know where I should start? What is the best rom to get and how do I get started, etc.
Thanks in advance!
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mc999 said:
xdadevnube said:
I have spent time with all the new Verizon phones. My Charge is snappier than the stock Nexus by a fair margin. It is heavily nodded though. My Charge is snappier the the stock Razr as well. This dual core argument is all over the web.
Hi, I just bought a Charge and am new with android phone, could you please help and let me know where I should start? What is the best rom to get and how do I get started, etc.
Thanks in advance!
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My personal opinion....
Start here...
Download Odin 3
Odin 3 - program to install roms & other phone stuff
Download the usb driver for windows
Windows USB Driver
Good simple rom to get going.
[ODIN][ALL IN ONE][EP4D] Gingerbread 2.3.6 W/Root/CWR/IMO Kernel 4.0
Good daily driver rom
[ROM][ODIN][CWR][EP4P] Humble 5.0 RC2 Gingerbread 2.3.6 11-9-2011
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advice please
xdadevnube said:
I have spent time with all the new Verizon phones. My Charge is snappier than the stock Nexus by a fair margin. It is heavily nodded though. My Charge is snappier the the stock Razr as well. This dual core argument is all over the web.
If you like it, buy it. It provides the manufacturers the funding to make new great products.
It's hard to hear anything but whining on threads like these.
If you are too lazy to learn to modify and optimize your phone, so then either provide reasoning to back up your argument or go back to playing your video games.
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Hi xdadevnube, I'm interested to know what firmware/mod are you using for your Charge, and how to best twig it. I just got a Charge myself, new with android phone rooting. Thanks.

xdadevnube said:
I have spent time with all the new Verizon phones. My Charge is snappier than the stock Nexus by a fair margin. It is heavily nodded though. My Charge is snappier the the stock Razr as well.
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Apples to oranges, dude. Fair comparisons would be a stock Droid Charge to a stock Nexus/RAZR or a heavily modified Charge to a heavily modified Nexus/RAZR.
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Somebody convince me the Atrix 2 is better than OG

I am thinking of getting either the Atrix 2 or the Atrix 4G on ATT, the A2 is basically $100 more and the hardware seems very similar. You get a bigger screen, and a better camera...but I could convince myself I would prefer the form factor of a smaller one and don't care too much about the camera. The processors are different...but spec out about the same.
Plus, with the bootloader unlocked on the 4G...all of the software advantages pretty much go it's way.
Anybody got a case for the A2?

anderwm said:
I am thinking of getting either the Atrix 2 or the Atrix 4G on ATT, the A2 is basically $100 more and the hardware seems very similar. You get a bigger screen, and a better camera...but I could convince myself I would prefer the form factor of a smaller one and don't care too much about the camera. The processors are different...but spec out about the same.
Plus, with the bootloader unlocked on the 4G...all of the software advantages pretty much go it's way.
Anybody got a case for the A2?
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OG will only get ics ported. ATRIX 2 will get the real deal.
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I am not going to give you a bunch reasons why to go get this phone, because it is personal thing, and the decision is yours.
I will give you two things to think about.
1) The Atrix has an unlocked bootloader and can run a ton of ROMS, and kerenels. There will not be a lot of tinkering and playing, since it has all been done before.
2) The Atrix 2 is only 75 days old, or so, from release date. Not all of the hacking has even been found yet, and we are a small group here, that has not been tainted yet with a lot of bad stuff. So there is a lot of tinkering and playing yet to be done. If you like that sort of thing, then.... We are going to have our first ROM early next week, I am thinking of releasing it.

I know after I showed my Atrix2 to my co-worker who has the Atrix, he went out and bought it has done nothing but tell me how much more he likes it than his original Atrix. Utlimately, like Jim said, it will come down to personal preferrence, if you get it from AT&T, you get 30 days to try it out. I know that I personally love this phone, even in its "unmodded" state.

@jimbridgman: I do like to tinker...I am an Electrical Engineer by trade. Although I have done quite a bit of software development on various platforms, I have never tinkered much in the mobile world. I understand the devices on a very low chip to chip level...and on a very high software level, but could probably use the hands on to try to pick up some of the implementation details in between. That might be what wins me over in the end.
@tylercarter: Also good point about ICS
As you could probably see by my wording...I am leaning that way I just need a push. Thanks for your replies

Go play with both if them in a local AT&T store. The differences stock are very apparent when messing around with them. The ATRIX 2 wins pure stock and the screen is awesome but put some customization on the OG ATRIX and it really comes alive.
Just depends on how patient you can be and which one serves you best as they are both good choices.

Ok, I got the ATRIX 2 and you guys are right...it is blazing fast. Now what I need is reading material that sumerizes the dev process. Is the bootloader propriotory? Is it locked with a pin held high, some software method(mda hash or something ). I need like a high level description of the problems...I can help.

anderwm said:
Ok, I got the ATRIX 2 and you guys are right...it is blazing fast. Now what I need is reading material that sumerizes the dev process. Is the bootloader propriotory? Is it locked with a pin held high, some software method(mda hash or something ). I need like a high level description of the problems...I can help.
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Read the posts in the android section man all the juicy details are located there and why ur at it check the other sections to can't hurt to do ur own research first then ask questions that may have already been answered
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anderwm said:
Ok, I got the ATRIX 2 and you guys are right...it is blazing fast. Now what I need is reading material that sumerizes the dev process. Is the bootloader propriotory? Is it locked with a pin held high, some software method(mda hash or something ). I need like a high level description of the problems...I can help.
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Well, yes the bootloader is locked, and we are looking for an unlocked one in the dev section here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1376
bootloader thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328714
Rom stuff if you are interested:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404442
The Development thread is a little quite right now, since there is a lot going on behind the scenes right now. We are a pretty small group of hackers, and we all seem to work very well together and each of us brings something different to the table and we all have this phone in common.
Welcome to the fold, and check out the thread for those new to this phone, it is helpful.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396650

Farewell!

Traded my phone for a mint iPhone 4S. Pretty happy about it. At least if i want to come back, i can always use my note!
Been a good run but Its time to go. Thanks to Jim, JRW and lfaber for all your hard work!! Others too I'm sure!
Ciao!!
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Atrix 2 for a mint iphone 4s? I'm guessing it wasn't a straight trade, right?

holeshot77 said:
Traded my phone for a mint iPhone 4S. Pretty happy about it. At least if i want to come back, i can always use my note!
Been a good run but Its time to go. Thanks to Jim, JRW and lfaber for all your hard work!! Others too I'm sure!
Ciao!!
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Well good luck, my wife has one and loves it.
Me on the otherhand not so much. Even with the problems, the A2 seems better.
Hope you like it.
I expect to see you back when you feel the need to flash something!
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I would go back to a dumb phone before I'd use an apple product. maybe even chop off a hand.

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Good luck finishing with a device you really enjoy!
Sad to see an Android user go

cogeary said:
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Good luck finishing with a device you really enjoy!
Sad to see an Android user go
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no it's a fact I would chop off my hand first seriously you're right everyone is entitled to their own choice. I just have a deep seated distaste for apple.

mtnlion said:
I just have a deep seated distaste for apple.
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LOL Same Here

Me too but if I could trade my phone for a 4s I would do it in a heartbeat. Then sell it and buy a gs ii.
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I personally love the Atrix 2. I might be lucky but I've had absolutely no problems with it.
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LOL Same Here
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As do I. I compare apple to a tricycle and android to a Ducati. Google it.
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unsivil_audio said:
Me too but if I could trade my phone for a 4s I would do it in a heartbeat. Then sell it and buy a gs ii.
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Exactly lol I love the galaxy s2 nom nom s apples 800 megabytes ram
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cryhavok13 said:
As do I. I compare apple to a tricycle and android to a Ducati. Google it.
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Haha ^ nice example
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To each their own... I cant stand IOS or Webtop. Compare any of the three and the functionality of android makes it a clear winner on any decent device! Imo, Not trying to start a war or anything.

My wife loves her 4s but I'm loving the a2 especially when rooted.
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Skandranen said:
My wife loves her 4s but I'm loving the a2 especially when rooted.
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hehe another PC vs MAC thing If you are boring and carefree then go with iphone but if you want a personalized and unique device then stick with the A2 but the OP is gone and i don't think he will come back to take a look at his post hehehe. Besides our signal bars are not jacked up lmao.

This has nothing to do with PC versus Mac, this has to do with locked vs unlocked hardware. i will be boycotting Motorola in the future, this is my first Moto smartphone and the experience has been less than desirable. It's another case of great hardware ruined by being severely limited/crippled by the manufacturer. Samsung, LG, or HTC for me in the future.

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This has nothing to do with PC versus Mac, this has to do with locked vs unlocked hardware. i will be boycotting Motorola in the future, this is my first Moto smartphone and the experience has been less than desirable. It's another case of great hardware ruined by being severely limited/crippled by the manufacturer. Samsung, LG, or HTC for me in the future.
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yeah our HTC liberty's were so much easier to hack.

someone traded you a i4s for an a2?
Sell the i4s and buy a GSM Galaxy Nexus. Destroys both phones

Good luck in IOS jail
I sincerely wish you luck with an idevice. I was talked into trying the IP4, and knowing that I could easily sell it for enough dough to pickup some android goodness, I gave it a good, honest try. I fought for almost 6mos trying to make it fit. There were things that were nice, like the *screen*, battery life, speed, and camera.
I even jailbroke that puppy and actually had it part-way there. Unfortunately, the IOS ecosystem is so restrictive (though admittedly slowly getting better) that I wound up bashing my head against stupid, arbitrary limitations. At first, the little annoyances seem minor and tolerable. afterall, this is a pretty solid device, right? so what if you can't quite do x, y, or z. There are 'workarounds' and such, but then you realize that hitting the same little issues every single day starts to grate on you, and many of the 'workarounds' are half-ass (backgrounding apps just kills battery life, for eg.).
While IOS is well optimized for the hardware, and they really get all the speed they can out of it, the GUI also employs tricks to make it *feel* fast (smooth is a better word). Those smooth transitions are so smooth because they are slow, and the GUI will pre-load elements even before they are ready for touch input. Once I got to know IOS, I found I was tapping on freshly loaded GUI 'buttons' that ignored my input for a second or so. lame. Also, the 'polished' feel of IOS apps is almost purely illusory, as they crash frequently when 'unfrozen' (they don't get to run in the background). IOS just makes the crash look really pretty as the app disappears for just a moment and then restarts itself never telling you what actually happened. Android is just being honest when it reports an app crashed.
If yer on a tiered data plan, get ready for the hate. despite all the bull**** claims, IOS uses *far* more data than android. I could rarely stay under 200MB/mo on my IP4 despite having no widgets and only doing email and a bit of web browsing. I rarely go over 80MB in a month now that I'm on the atrix2.
A friend of mine who switched from the IP3G to the SGSII is thankful he didn't get the IP4s. He reports that his wife's IP4s seems sluggish and apps crash alot.
The iDevices can be alluring, and it might be worth trying, but just make sure you have a back-out plan. You may not even fully realize the pit yer in until months later.

Change A2 for SG2

Hi, how are you?
I don't want get anybody mad (And i don't expect that), neither hate me nor whatever.
I'm a little tired and bored with Motorola. When i bought the A2, i didn't imagine what i was going to find out. Moreover, the little info that i already knew about android before i buyed the phone, seems very cool to me. I've seen a lot of custom roms. But, in A2 everything is very low. And well, not mentioning the update to 4.1 or 4.2.
Therefore i want to know if somebody can change my A2 for a SG2 (Not in this forum).
I just ask if it is fare for both of us. Or, if i have to put money, or the other person have to pay me.
Because, the screen, procesor, ram, camara, size is completelly the same with the SG2.
I want a S2 because of the design of the phone, and because of the roms.
What you say?
PS: The A2 is A GREAT phone. It never lagged. It never frizzed. Met my expectations. And, when the phone dies, it was my fault. The only disadvantage that i found is the duration of the battery in a custom rom. I hope it doesn't happen in the S2 or other phone.

brianmoyano said:
I don't want get anybody mad (And i don't expect that), neither hate me nor whatever.
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forum has seen this kind of storms before ..... so i think u might have an idea about your question
brianmoyano said:
Because, the screen, procesor, ram, camara, size is completelly the same with the SG2.
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A2 screen is better than bluiesh tint of GS2
A2 processor lags behind 1.8GHz oc'd compared to (A2)1.4GHz oc'd .... but that hardly matters
A2 RAM is dual channel (just for technical difference) but same as GS2 = 1GB
A2 camera lags in low light than GS2
A2 size is because of build quality & battery.... both better than GS2
because GS2 has huge popularity it has more developers ...... its upto you now

I don't think anyone would want to exchange his s2 for a2! U better sell it and buy nexus!
Sent from my Atrix2 still stuck on ics

They doesn't sells nexus in my country.
That means that if i change the a2 for a s2 are scamming me? Or he/she have to pay me?

Bro u will have to pay extra bucks with ur phone to exchange with an s2! So I suggest y not get a new one! And that too nexus. I mean nexus4. It will be available in all countries I believe. In ma country its coming by the end of this month!
Sent from my Atrix2 still stuck on ics

First of all, there're no nexus in Argentina. Neither galaxy nexus, nor LG nexus.
I don't know why they doesn't bring it here.
And, i don't want a phone like that. It's too much for me.
I just want a phone with the same specifications. Neither more nor less.
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I had an S2 before getting scammed into this POS.
S2 is a great phone, by far one of the best I've ever used.
There is no blue tint to the S2 screens either. SuperAmoled Plus screen looks just as good as the screen on the A2.
S2 is alot faster in every way.....once you customize it. stock, it aint that great, but still less choppy than A2.
Most of this comes down to the way the A2 is locked down, vs the S2 being mostly open. If A2 was open, I bet it'd give the S2 a run.
But if your gonna try and find someone to trade you. Dont hold your breath.

Is there a possibility to unlock the bootloader of the A2 in the near future?

brianmoyano said:
Is there a possibility to unlock the bootloader of the A2 in the near future?
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Discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837363
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A2Trip said:
Discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837363
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Yeah, but, there's nothing so much official. That's why i don't want this phone anymore.

Even better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625828
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