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Why are we not getting honeycomb to play with?
You really need to read some threads before posting a question that has already been answered many times.
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And the honeycomb you are referencing has no practical use in the real world. Its a hacked together UI that does nothing but run the preview sdk
if it was worth it we would have it. our devs kick ass
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I hate to sound like a jerk but what is it with all the people whining about honeycomb. The only version out so far is a hacked version built off the prelim sdk and in no way will work for the g tablet. Anyone who has been Modding for anytime knows the cardinal rule for android...
DON'T ASK FOR ETA'S.
When honeycomb is officially released by Google I'm sure it'll be like every other release and in a short time we'll have our own version. Until then have some patience please and do some research.
or if you want honeycomb straight away then get a xoom and pay the big bucks
What i dont get is why do people ask and ask...........
Doesnt your gtab do everything you need It to?
honeycomb... Hero cookie....danish....pop tart...soda cracker........flap jack or royal with cheese
Just names I dont see anything i cant wait for.
Now when they say the next android version will give my gtab the ability for it to make me samwiches and give me oral pleasure on demand that is when i will be all over the devs to build that $hit....
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
Really?
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Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
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Let me get this straight. You post in the wrong section, you ask for an ETA, and you obviously did not search, which also means you did not read any of the forum rules or stickies. Yet, somehow we are all assholes. You know if you just follow a few simple rules your experience with XDA will be much better. The rules here are no different than any other forum. I am going to assume you are new to this, so I will help you a bit. Search for what an SDK port is and you will quickly realize why you do not want this.
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Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
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I think you should flash the Nook Color ROM BilliamB, you obviously know what you're doing, I'm sure you can get it to work. I mean come on, the G Tablet has a Tegra 2 processor, it should totally work right? Although you may want to read a few threads.... oh wait, you obviously don't do that. Come on dude, the only one here being an AH (as you put it) is you.
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Seriously.... You will not see Honeycomb on the G Tablet until another unit is released with Honeycomb and has the Tegra 2 chip. The issue is the instruction sets are different enough that its not a one for one port. The Nook, Dell Streak 5, Tegra 2, etc. are all based on the ARMv7 instruction set but there are difference in their implementation enough that make them incompatible. In addition the biggest differences lay in the I/O subsystem which makes these platforms completely different. With these major differences it makes porting from the emulator (which is how they are getting Honeycomb to work) a daunting tasking and nearly impossible on a Tegra 2 based device.
I am very confident after the first Honeycomb system image is posted it will be running on our tablets... It will be a race as to who gets props on Engadget for being the first to port to the G Tablet..
You would get less hostility if you read, learned and asked accordingly. Its a give and take community. Unfortunately the way you asked makes it seem your less inclined to contribute and just take...
BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
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Honeycomb is coming to the g-tablet in March, till then.
RERRRAAXXXX
BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
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Seriously dude....This is about the 10th thread with this same topic started since the nook got the honeycomb sdk running. You ask questions without searching and then cause you dont get the answer you want you call us names. Don't worry, most of us won't answer your questions anymore.....ever.
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Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
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Whoa!!! Bad move man, bad move. You need realize that you can't call people who are willing to spend rediculous amounts of thier personal time to provide the community with amazing firmware AH's! Quite the contrary - They are saints (and, actually, you serve no purpose).
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Whoa!!! Bad move man, bad move. You need realize that you can't call people who are willing to spend rediculous amounts of thier personal time to provide the community with amazing firmware AH's! Quite the contrary - They are saints (and, actually, you serve no purpose).
Swyped from my VEGAn-TAB-v1.0.0B5.1
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Totally agreed. XD.
Hey Alpha06...
I'm just curious if that is a confirmed news or word of mouth that the G-tablet would have Honeycomb around the March?
I wouldn't guarantee that Honeycomb for the G-tab would be available for sure in March, however I wouldn't be surprised to see Alpha-versions of Honeycomb ROMs shortly after the first Tegra2 devices are released and rooted. Like everyone has been saying around here, don't ask for an ETA, because the people around here that do develop do it on their personal time. They have lives, work, and possibly kids, wives, or whatever that also wants their time as well.
Remember, porting a ROM is a lot easier if there is solid reference material to build from. As you may notice, TNT-Lite comes from his building on and improving the existing TNT version of Android that came with the G-Tablet. Vegan is a modification and improvement of the Vega OS. I don't believe that the developers of either package (and correct me if I am wrong) went to Google's GIT repository for Android and compiled their own versions of the OS specifically for the device - along with writing their own custom device drivers for all of the internal hardware. They built off of, and improved what was available.
IIRC, the Nook port of Honeycomb is only partially functional. The just released port for the Dell Streak (http://www.mytabletlife.com/2011/02/08/dell-streak-honeycomb-port/) is as well. Why, because they are essentially starting from scratch.
Which brings everything back to my original point. As soon as reference devices are out in the wild, I'm sure that will be the point where we will see Honeycomb ports start to pop up here as well.
BigJohn
march can not get here soon enough... heh.
There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab-12.com/
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There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab.com/
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Most of the threads regarding this are in the G tablet General forum...
brainyjd said:
There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab-12.com/
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You need to look harder.
The thing is, because its not being developed/released on xda its not mentioned in the Development section.
sorry - It makes sense that this is not in the dev thread
It makes sense that this is not in the dev thread but it is big news and I skim for new post every day in the dev section and did not see any. Sorry I wish I could delete this post.
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There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab.com/
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It's actually still in ALPHA not Beta
Not development. Moved to general.
It's here, and looks great but some features dont work.. still great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065220
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Not development. Moved to general.
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I'm curious about this since the project obviously IS development, but is being moved to General every time a thread references it.
Is this happening because Roebeet is now, for some reason no one has shared, persona non grata around here?
I mean, I guess it makes sense if he is no longer part of the XDA "family" but it still seems kind of silly.
I believe it is because the DEVELOPMENT is happening elsewhere.
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nunjabusiness said:
I'm curious about this since the project obviously IS development, but is being moved to General every time a thread references it.
Is this happening because Roebeet is now, for some reason no one has shared, persona non grata around here?
I mean, I guess it makes sense if he is no longer part of the XDA "family" but it still seems kind of silly.
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It's not that at all..
Development is for the actual development of something and by the developer of that something, not the discussion of things being developed elsewhere regardless of who is developing it.
A good example.....CM7, the primary source tree for all Gingerbread built ROMs on the Gtablet is discussed in General as well because CyanogenMod is not posting their development and issues....it's others just talking about it.
The easiest way to think of it is that the development forum section is for a developer to post on their work and get feedback.
If it's not your work and you aren't doing the "developing" on it.....post it in General.
This really makes me want to punch whoever that drove roebeet away. Seriously, the guy is as dedicated as you can expect any dev who's doing this out of pure hobbyist enthusiasm.
The guy actually spent his valuable time to give us honeycream. Whoever that accused roebeet of any ill intention and effectively drove him away, shame on you. You should go and buy an ipad and leave us gtabbers alone.
When you think about it viewsonic made this all possible by releasing the 1.2 bl. In the end they have given us honey creams...
The honey comb port is from another device that uses a compatible or similar bl.
Roebeet is simply ironing out the gtab specific bugs. But therew are numerous bugs, so his work is much appreciated.
I definitely hate following the development on an outside site from xda. Because I love this community. But it is what it is.
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goodintentions said:
This really makes me want to punch whoever that drove roebeet away. Seriously, the guy is as dedicated as you can expect any dev who's doing this out of pure hobbyist enthusiasm.
The guy actually spent his valuable time to give us honeycream. Whoever that accused roebeet of any ill intention and effectively drove him away, shame on you. You should go and buy an ipad and leave us gtabbers alone.
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Well said goodintentions !!
I don't agree with some of your posts,
but this one I can't agree more.
goodintentions said:
This really makes me want to punch whoever that drove roebeet away. Seriously, the guy is as dedicated as you can expect any dev who's doing this out of pure hobbyist enthusiasm.
The guy actually spent his valuable time to give us honeycream. Whoever that accused roebeet of any ill intention and effectively drove him away, shame on you. You should go and buy an ipad and leave us gtabbers alone.
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You can find him on slate droid and he is working on honeycomb.
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Really Jerdog?
I think you take this too far. Just being a jerk now.
I guess you will be removing all links to CM7 huh? Isn't that another tablet/phone/forum site? Those DEV's don't post/host their projects here.
I've never really taken sides in this little spat, but I think this is childish.
It's not like this is just one of many CM7 derivatives. It's the only bootable HC image I know of for the G-tab at this moment. Whatever flaws, issues, malfunctions it may have, many in these forums would like to play around.
This is an amazing rom for an alpha!
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Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
It's not like this is just one of many CM7 derivatives. It's the only bootable HC image I know of for the G-tab at this moment. Whatever flaws, issues, malfunctions it may have, many in these forums would like to play around.
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Don't worry its all over the General section right now
XDA is merely reaping what some of its members/mods have planted (see: roebeet vs. XDA regarding 1.2 bl), and the more they continue to make a big issue about it the more the members will be trafficking and directing others traffic outside XDA.
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It's the only bootable HC image I know of for the G-tab at this moment. Whatever flaws, issues, malfunctions it may have, many in these forums would like to play around.
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Thats not the issue here (IMHO), the thing is , everyone who wants to try this ROM needs to load 1.2bl, this just proves that 1.2bl was the way to go (as suggested a month or two ago). The 1.1 <-> 1.2 switch just to try honeycomb will drive many users (at one point or another) to keep using the semi-backed, still alpha, HC release to avoid the overhead of the switch (especially given the rate of advances made in the HC port and bricking risk involved in jumping back and forth). Now all the current ROM developers (in clear contradiction to what XDA advocated) will need to either release 1.2 compatible ROMs or risk loss of interest.
Now all the current ROM developers (in clear contradiction to what XDA advocated) will need to either release 1.2 compatible ROMs or risk loss of interest.
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I originally thought that they didn't want to do this becuase they will then have wasted all that time on the 1.1 Roms that are still in development...but then something dawned on me. Roebeet was able to port 3 existing Roms, all that he worked on, to 1.2. One based on TNT lite, one based on Gadam, and one (and probably best Rom I've ever used) based on Vegan. Keep in mind, he had all 3 of these up and running in about 2 days. He's actually been working on all of those, the HC port, and general 1.2 tools all at the same time. He's created direct and simple processes to flash to 1.2, a revised CWM for it, has Pershoot and Clemsyn on board with kernels.
Call me a fanboi, etc...but the man has really put in some major time on the 1.2 projects.
aasoror said:
Don't worry its all over the General section right now
XDA is merely reaping what some of its members/mods have planted (see: roebeet vs. XDA regarding 1.2 bl), and the more they continue to make a big issue about it the more the members will be trafficking and directing others traffic outside XDA.
Thats not the issue here (IMHO), the thing is , everyone who wants to try this ROM needs to load 1.2bl, this just proves that 1.2bl was the way to go (as suggested a month or two ago). The 1.1 <-> 1.2 switch just to try honeycomb will drive many users (at one point or another) to keep using the semi-backed, still alpha, HC release to avoid the overhead of the switch (especially given the rate of advances made in the HC port and bricking risk involved in jumping back and forth). Now all the current ROM developers (in clear contradiction to what XDA advocated) will need to either release 1.2 compatible ROMs or risk loss of interest.
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I originally thought that they didn't want to do this becuase they will then have wasted all that time on the 1.1 Roms that are still in development...but then something dawned on me. Roebeet was able to port 3 existing Roms, all that he worked on, to 1.2. One based on TNT lite, one based on Gadam, and one (and probably best Rom I've ever used) based on Vegan. Keep in mind, he had all 3 of these up and running in about 2 days. He's actually been working on all of those, the HC port, and general 1.2 tools all at the same time. He's created direct and simple processes to flash to 1.2, a revised CWM for it, has Pershoot and Clemsyn on board with kernels.
Call me a fanboi, etc...but the man has really put in some major time on the 1.2 projects.
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The whole 1.1/1.2 bootloader thing is stupid and melodramatic. There is little difference, and no real reason to use one vs the other. As builds from Malata get released, this will likely be a non-issue. sooner or later a 'standard' will emerge. Time takes care of this.
As for this 'overhead' between switching, its a fairly simple process to nvFlash. I think we forget that this is an enthusiasts and developers site. There are plenty of threads/articles explaining how to do it. This ain't Viewsonic Tech support. If you can't read these threads and learn how to do this, you really shouldn't be toying with the firmware to start with.
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The whole 1.1/1.2 bootloader thing is stupid and melodramatic. There is little difference, and no real reason to use one vs the other. As builds from Malata get released, this will likely be a non-issue. sooner or later a 'standard' will emerge. Time takes care of this.
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At the moment there is a few good reasons to use 1.2. The main one is HoneyComb . But it has been found that the 1.2 for the Adam is interchangeable with our 1.2. The adam developers have said they are working on a gingerbread release which means that 1.2 will be the way to get acceleration on a gingerbread rom.
Sure at the moment, if you don't feel like playing around with Honeycomb which is only partially working (I can't believe how much progress has been made in the last 2 days), there is no real reason to switch today. But, it looks like the best of what will come out in the near future is on 1.2 which can only be found on a different web site currently.
I've heard many things, all great, about CM since the beginning of time (...well, close to it.). Frequently, before a real android phone was obtainable via the average pathways here in the U.S. of A, and the iPhone was the only real option for a smartphone, I found myself pulled towards CM-even though I had no way of actually using it at the time. The open-source, power-to-the people feel has always appealed to me...and my journey, starting from the age of 12, when I started crashing my parents computer so I could spend more time with the boutique builder that would fix it, later fixing it myself, then exploring the down-and-dirty innards of my gadgets-- this journey, has always felt like home to me.
My personal tinkering with phones and the like started with my sisters HTC Tilt, which I skinned to look like an iPhone for her. This was one of the first phones with Wi-Fi (Ha!), and trying to get it work was just as fun as using it.
Moving on, I received, for my birthday, a palm PDA (one of the first with a camera and a color screen...the device itself was blue), but I had to return it due to an exploding display.
Finally, a couple years ago, I got my first smart-phone. An iPhone. And within an hour after getting it, I had it jailbroken and themed. But the innards were still off limits. While searching under terms lie? "Hack phone" and "tethering, I always came across posts speaking of Cyanogenmod...In fact, I'd say that an astounding 50% of my searches relating to customizing or modifying--in some way or another, led to a post or thread--sometimes a whole article, on how to do something with android, and specifically CM. This proved fruitful for my later endeavors.
When I was doing better financially, I bought my first android device, and have never felt so empowered, and have never had such a strong ownership of my devices. That device was the Transformer.
Again, after just an hour of owning the device, I was looking up terms...and searching XDA for every bit of relevant information I could find. Some of the questions I had: What is Clockwork Mod? What is Clockwork Mod Recovery? What's the difference? NVflash? What's a B70 serial number mean for my prognosis? What's a Nandroid? How do I choose a ROM?
Although there was a metric ten of terminology I needed to learn to know what I was doing--and even though there was almost a complete vacuum of centralized information--- at least authoritative information (any questioned asked in forums led to me being booted and marked as a noob), things eventually worked out.
I learned about the Boot loader situation for the transformer, the status of honeycomb as a sort of non-open-source open source operating system, and about the battery issues....about kernels, and speaker mods, about modules and root apps-and along the way I learned almost the full metric ton of terminology, and had a metric ton of fun...with you guys.
Which brings me to today...I own a brand new galaxy note, but am once again in the dark. Only this time, its far worse...because my questions pertain to CM, the gold reference when it comes to running a custom rom, and its structure...that is to say, the structure of the ROM, the team that builds it, and the community that helps support it...all relevant to understanding the dearth of work and choice that we find in this very forum. And because its been around for so long, the staple that CM has become, assumes that all things and all people know what's happening.
Which brings me to my real questions....which I've searched, and searched, and searched again for answers to, but have found no conclusive, or concise and relevant answers. I've searched the cyanogenmod site, the forum, this forum, and Google. And while I found half-answers, and although I'm confident I can root any device I, or my friends can buy, and I can install custom roms, edit props, change permissions, dump radios, flash pre rooted kernels and other kernels, and backup and edit every settings app and image I can find, I still find myself lacking a fundamental understanding of Cyanogenmod and Cyanogenmod work, official, and unofficial--information that would make my life complete, and help me bear the fruit of this journey I'm on.
That journey ends with a device that I own...one with cyanogenmod on it...specifically...a device in the near future that runs a version of CM that I helped contribute to-either officially or unofficially to.
And the beginning of the end to that journey, and the desired end game--developing, begins here. With my ASUS Transformer. And my questions.
Note: I illustrated this story in-depth, for a reason. To let you know that I've searched long and hard for clear answers, and that I plan to contribute significantly in the future to Android, and to XDA. I just need a teeny bit of help...a little direction. And so do a lot of us. I haven't found anywhere, a discussion of this subject--a significant one when it comes to understanding our community, our choices, and how to contribute...that subject is the structure of Cyanogenmod: the ROM, the team, and the community that constitutes them. The following questions are relevant to, and seek to address this fundamental lack of understanding.
Since the release of IcS, we've seen an explosion of CM in the Transformer forum. And while I understand how to read a change log, and a list of "what's working" and "what's not working", and can rely on a search find out what "Cornerstone" is, its still damn near impossible to define the relationship that constitutes all of the CM builds that are available. It might be clear, after a search, what the term "Kang" is, but what isn't clear, is what this means for the end-user. Its not clear what's official, what's parallel work, and what makes up the night lies that we can find on the CM repository. Is it one man aggregating work from forums like this, and throwing all of the features and fixes into a centralized build? Are the ROMs that we find in the Development section of the Transformer section off-shoots of CM to be worked on and differentiated in the future? Because where it stands now, I don't see a ton of differentiation. Maybe its because there's just been a new release, and I'm seeing the beginning of a process here. But I'm still unaware of what makes up a CM team. Its not clear how these things work-- if there is one man from the team working on the transformer, another working on the Epic 4g...and so on, or if everyone works on the same thing, and the feature or fix is distributed by a magic machine, or if each person on the team works on the same thing, and then a designated person ports it to his device. It's context like this that makes an informed overview of the current situation possible. And without that context, I'm stuck.
Most know that nightlies come before the release candidate(s), and that a stable release follows. But what I don't know, is why I never hear about an actual release, and almost always hear people speak of night lies, and in general, they're almost categorically excited.
So, if we were to examine my complete and utter lack of knowledge together, wed conclude that it's impossible for me to understand where XDA, and the ROMs that are available in the development section fit in to the grander-scheme of things. Is it better to get a nightly from CM? Is the nightly made up of the very fixes and developments we find in the various ROMs here in the development section?
How does someone go about deciding which of the dozen ROMs to install? Because the threads for ROMs don't explain anything when it comes to explaining an end goal, and a developers intent for the ROM, and the reasons why he/she is making one, I find myself stuck in the quick-sand of change-log after change-log, feature list after feature list.
Give me the 411. Explain to me what I'm missing in my Rosetta stone of the big picture..the grand scheme of things. Maybe I'm looking at this all wrong...maybe I'm just an idiot. Maybe you'll rage at me. But maybe, just maybe, I'm missing only, one small, key, piece of information here, and I spent a couple pages typing on the touchscreen of my transformer for thirty five minutes to find the answers that I badly need.
I'm sorry if I wasted your time. Thank you very much for reading this.
If you have a problem with my post, or a suggestion, attack, or complaint, please Private Message it to me...unless it pertains to the questions I posed...in which case I would very, very much appreciate your comment, your input, you sharing your knowledge, or even a question of your own.
Thanks.
Seriously? All that wall of text to ask the same question that everyone else asks?
This is how you divide up the custom ROMs to make your choice easier:
Do you want cornerstone or no?
If you want cornerstone, you pick between Team EOS or CM9
If you don't want cornerstone, you have these to pick from(in no particular order):
Revolver
Android Revolution HD
Codename Android
AOKP
CM9 no cornerstone version
Just try them and see what you like. I don't understand why people are so cautious before picking a ROM as if it's a permanent choice that can't be reverted.
If you don't like it, you can quickly flash a different ROM.
It's better for you to make your own decision based on your own experience with the ROMs rather than rely on someone else's recommendation whose needs and personal preference might not match yours.
Thank you, actually a nice read, there is also official cm support for our tf, on the cm website, last i seen there were 3 nightlies, since ics iv flashed the official cwm modded rom, then revolutiin, then team eos, then cm9, back to revolution, then codename android, now back on krakd hc rom until jcarrz releases his ics rom.
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You gotta keep in mind that all ICS development now is in an early stage. Every rom is new, we don't have a solid stable one. Even stock asus have problems with rebooting, dock integration and so on.
CM is fragmented in 2 or 3 builds, and what diferentiates then is only the commits from CM repository and some dev preferences, like cornerstone or full support for the dock.
All roms that aren't Asus based (AOSP) suffers from some aditional issues, like:
- Dock won't be fully working, except on CM9 by ricardopvz and Codename Android. The touchpad still works different from stock asus.
- Some Wi-fi and GPS issues, probably driver related
- Screen rotation have a lag issue (all AOSP roms)
- Dock battery info missing, even with widget.
- Battery drain issues.
I have tested almost all roms and can say most of then is pretty usable. But if combined with overclock kernel, you can certainly expect problems.
[noobquestion]What is this cornerstone everyones talking about? lol [/noobquestion]
Im personally running team EOS nightly build (no cornerstone) with blade's OC kernel running at 1.4Ghz.
I think the ROM works very well. It hasnt really given me any issues except 2 random reboots and 1 semi-freeze (all on the same day lol). Its been running perfect for 3 days now though.
Don't worry about hondroid he is kind of a troll no hard feelings
I have not used CM for quite some time but here is my understanding from having worked with the captivate and transformer for over a year now.
Cyanogen mod is based off of the true source code of andorid taken directly from google and with no OEM's getting their greasy little fingers over them and polluting them with bloatware and skins. From there cyanogen set up a git repository where they have the main android tree as pure as it is and then branches for each device. Then there are plenty of devs working directly on the tree optimizing the core android and adding features which can then be accepted or regected by the otehr devs. Then there is a smaller team of devs on each "Branch" which normally consists of a certain type of processor or chipset. Ex Hummingbird or Tegra 2
The job of the devs there is to integrate that to make it work smoothly and they have the same peer approval system. There are also smaller branches which contain the drivers for most pieces of hardware (Speakers, Screens ect). Then finally there is the device dev there are normally about 5 from my experience but once all the work is done the team can be cut to 1 or 2. They are the people that get it up and running on the device writing missing drivers fixing device specific bugs ect. And once they are done there work they can compile it all together and there we have our nightly.
Then if there is a change in the core all the device devs have to do is recompile and build the rom and there is your next nightly.
The RC happens when they hit a stable nightly or when development has slowed enough that all of the bugs have been fixed
Hope this is helpfull
Thanks to all of your for your responses. I think this is a beautiful conversation that isn't happening enough. All of you have provided great information, that when combined helps to depict the structure of the community we have all grown to love.
Hi Everyone,
My names Martin and I work for Packt Publishing in the UK.
Im currently looking at a book on Android Rooting, ROMS, themeing etc.
I just wanted input from you on what should be included in the book as the only similar title on amazon has terrible reviews!
If you have any ideas on any other android titles you think would be useful let me know here.
We would also be looking for an author if this book gets through our commitment process as well as technical reviewers. They would most likely come from these forums.
Thanks,
M
This would be very difficult. The reason being, the android rooting and romming game is very fluid. What works one day, may not hold true the next due to software updates. Even rooting exploits are ever evolving. Then add the variance of many many different devices, all with thier own quirks and such. Just saying.
Thanks for the reply.
Understandably given the ever changing releases of android teh subject is a minefield.
I think it is definitely a market for such a book its just finding the right angle.
hmm bro its very dificult
How did you get into Roms, Themes etc???
What resources did you use?
Mart_Packt said:
How did you get into Roms, Themes etc???
What resources did you use?
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Most of the folks mainly this forum. And google ofcourse.
Cause its device specific, in most cases. At least in terms of rooting.
For theming, flashing etc its mainly similar.
But I would say, stuff I've mentioned are the top of the iceberg.
Anyhow, good luck!
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I know our Xoom is getting a bit long in the tooth, but it still is one of the finest equipped pieces of hardware out there. I've been using the Omnirom 4.4.4 iteration for many months now, and love it.
How many tablets can you name that have external sdcard,HDMI, and USB capability besides the normative features most tablets have.
I think the Xoom might just might have a very good future with the next iteration of Android, Lollipop. I'd love to be able to
work on this, but if I did it, I'd have to find someone who would loan me a Xoom they have laying around unused for an extended period of time.
I don't know, but the more I think of it the more excited I become.
That's not how it works...... You are a user not a developer.... I will see what can be done when sources come out but no this is a scam! Why get a Xoom if you already have one? From a account with no rom threads started
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That's not how it works...... You are a user not a developer.... I will see what can be done when sources come out but no this is a scam! Why get a Xoom if you already have one? From a account with no rom threads started
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Wasn't a scam Cameron. I have 1 Xoom that is my primary computing device with anything having to do with mobile devices. I will not have it's useability compromised.
By the way, long ago I wrote code for the Atari ST, STacy and Falcon. In the last few hours I have been able to get a second Xoom from a friend locally (he's not using it, and thought it was bricked-It wasn't, just needed help-I've got working) once I get my friend's Xoom up to speed and brush up on my coding skills I should be able to help.
Honestly, I'm 74 years old and just tired and busy enough that I'd rather not take away from my limited time to become a developer again. At this time I'd like to just be a user and return my friend's fully working Xoom to him
Cameron, It seemed like most of the developers had just gone into hiding and I was hoping to generate interest from the community..
You don't know me, or really know much about me. If you did, you'd know that I wasn't attempting to scam anyone. In fact, saying that my goal was to scam is almost criminal and libelous, but I'm not one to easily take take offense.
Just please don't do a rush to judgement again. Once you make such statements they aren't easily retracted.
I look forward to hearing from you soon. Your friend,
Rob
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Wasn't a scam Cameron. I have 1 Xoom that is my primary computing device with anything having to do with mobile devices. I will not have it's useability compromised.
By the way, long ago I wrote code for the Atari ST, STacy and Falcon. In the last few hours I have been able to get a second Xoom from a friend locally (he's not using it, and thought it was bricked-It wasn't, just needed help-I've got working) once I get my friend's Xoom up to speed and brush up on my coding skills I should be able to help.
Honestly, I'm 74 years old and just tired and busy enough that I'd rather not take away from my limited time to become a developer again. At this time I'd like to just be a user and return my friend's fully working Xoom to him
Cameron, It seemed like most of the developers had just gone into hiding and I was hoping to generate interest from the community..
You don't know me, or really know much about me. If you did, you'd know that I wasn't attempting to scam anyone. In fact, saying that my goal was to scam is almost criminal and libelous, but I'm not one to easily take take offense.
Just please don't do a rush to judgement again. Once you make such statements they aren't easily retracted.
I look forward to hearing from you soon. Your friend,
Rob
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I am simply a "user" also but I can attest to the fact that I have seen numerous posts from Kingsman1 in other Xoom forums and he is always there to help others with questions or problems they are having with their tablet.
brewer75 said:
I am simply a "user" also but I can attest to the fact that I have seen numerous posts from Kingsman1 in other Xoom forums and he is always there to help others with questions or problems they are having with their tablet.
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Thanks for the vote of confidence my friend. The Lollipop Software Development Kit (SDK) is out there. I think that I'm going to hide and watch(though I am available at any time) as far as development is concerned. There are many of us who need help, including me from time to time. I'll go back to helping when I can.
Blessings to all,
Rob
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Thanks for the vote of confidence my friend. The Lollipop Software Development Kit (SDK) is out there. I think that I'm going to hide and watch(though I am available at any time) as far as development is concerned. There are many of us who need help, including me from time to time. I'll go back to helping when I can.
Blessings to all,
Rob
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And add another vote from me - I have seen and read many a helpful Kingsman post in these forums - I wish I had some sort of useful skills other than flashing other peoples hard work or I would help - hope this generates the desired response from some other motivated developers - best of luck Sir Rob -
me also
have been running CM11 nighties for some time now but also think it would be cool to see some lollipop love for our xoom.
Yes please !
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have been running CM11 nighties for some time now but also think it would be cool to see some lollipop love for our xoom.
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4.4.4 is da best !
Until 5 comes out
Inspirational !
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I know our Xoom is getting a bit long in the tooth, but it still is one of the finest equipped pieces of hardware out there. I've been using the Omnirom 4.4.4 iteration for many months now, and love it.
How many tablets can you name that have external sdcard,HDMI, and USB capability besides the normative features most tablets have.
I think the Xoom might just might have a very good future with the next iteration of Android, Lollipop. I'd love to be able to
work on this, but if I did it, I'd have to find someone who would loan me a Xoom they have laying around unused for an extended period of time.
I don't know, but the more I think of it the more excited I become.
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Since being on IOS since 2011 I haven't used this account ; I got on here to say thank you; you are an inspiration for the ages. As our knowledge and experience becomes "mature" it's good to see that young or wise by years; we can all work together.
By the way,
I do have a second Xoom of my own not, and am running Omnirom 5.1.1 Alpha on it. At the moment, I'm looking to see what it can, and can't do. I hope to be able to help Schischu develop this into a stable, and very complete Rom now. Even so, this alpha is very polished, fast, and smooth.
I think we're gonna love it.
Blessings,
Rob