I'm going to be getting the Nexus 7 when it releases and was wondering if I could expect the same lack of drivers that devs had to deal with when using the G2x or will the fact that Google is behind it make for more openness with the drivers?
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i would expect the same lack of support, it is nvidia who is not coming out with the kernels, drivers, and plain text code. you atleast get the same NVflash support with the tegra3 so you cannot brick it.
Its google's official tablet, I expect a lot of support. Even if there isn't, google will most likely provide future updates that can be used to get drivers (ex android 4.2, etc)
It's Google's first flagship tablet so you can definitely expect full support and updated for a year (at the very minimum). Nexus S still gets support so that tells you a lot about how it'll be.
The HTC One X seems to have been getting good support so far.
Ordered a 16gb nexus the other day... I think we will be ok it is a nexus after all and I would think Google has thought of this.. Plus with actual timely updates the Devs can just pull the drivers anyways
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Well either way, I'm excited to finally be getting a tablet. A Google branded one no less. Im just not very fond of Nvidia
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HTC have released some awesome phones like the One X and my god it is fantastic, but the question is, shall I sell my Galaxy Nexus for the HTC?
The good points from the nexus are that I would be that I would be supporting to the next Android with no worry.
But the HTC would be more than capable for running the next Android version as its hardware is far better. Also I like the 1.5GHz Quad Core processor with nvidia tegra. But the updates that I would get will be later than the Nexus and also HTC are a pain to root with the boot loader and EXT partitions
What should I do?
Thanks Guys
Weeo
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And also, is it too early to get a QC phone and wait till they get better?
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You should get the HTC. The specs whoop the Nexus's ass!
weeo said:
But the HTC would be more than capable for running the next Android version as its hardware is far better.
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The question isn't whether it's capable, but when the manufacturer releases the update. Currently, none of them have yet released a Gingerbread -> ICS update, and it's already been 5 months.
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The question isn't whether it's capable, but when the manufacturer releases the update. Currently, none of them have yet released a Gingerbread -> ICS update, and it's already been 5 months.
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Yeah True, except I would do a custom rom of an aosp build. I'm gonna get the HTC then. Wow then ill have a QuadCore phone + a QuadCore tablet ill be quad cored
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for me its all about the hardware... since software can always be modified... the one x holds more potential hardware wise...
Do ittt!!!
I would wait for people to test it first...I am a bit worried with the battery stamina from One X
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With the Nexus, you do not have to wait to constructor update, you will always get the last Android's version.
But HTC phones are more powerfull and XDA community will let you have the new Android OS
Cheers people. Ill get the HTC
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/27/google-posts-android-4-1-jelly-bean-images-for-nexus-devices/
Hopefully this will help development for our phone in a 4.1 sense.
Same here. I would love to see a JB port for the Blaze.
It'll be easier to get a port once we have ICS. If Samsung releases it anytime this century... I am still confused for why Cyanogen Mod doesn't support our phone but still supports single core phones lol
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Bulletblitz27 said:
It'll be easier to get a port once we have ICS. If Samsung releases it anytime this century... I am still confused for why Cyanogen Mod doesn't support our phone but still supports single core phones lol
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I'm confused by lack of CM support for the blaze. They still support the cliqxt but lack of support might be because none of their members has the device
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I'm confused by lack of CM support for the blaze. They still support the cliqxt but lack of support might be because none of their members has the device
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That's what I'm thinking. It's more about popularity than actually good hardware. Funny thing is that if CM10 or at least CM9 were available more people would buy this phone. A bunch of people jumped ship and returned this device after looking at the 'slow' development. As of now it's picking up and hope it gets even better. Coming from a G2x, which was a huge waste of potential hardware, I hope this device doesn't meet the same fate. The only reason I didn't buy the Galaxy Nexus was because of its weird hardware (bad camera, random reboots, etc.) Lol
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We might not get official cm support but I know ill work on cm9 even more when ics source drops !
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That's what I'm thinking. It's more about popularity than actually good hardware. Funny thing is that if CM10 or at least CM9 were available more people would buy this phone. A bunch of people jumped ship and returned this device after looking at the 'slow' development. As of now it's picking up and hope it gets even better. Coming from a G2x, which was a huge waste of potential hardware, I hope this device doesn't meet the same fate. The only reason I didn't buy the Galaxy Nexus was because of its weird hardware (bad camera, random reboots, etc.) Lol
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Be patient. As soon as Samsung releases ICS kernel open source for Galaxy S Blaze 4G, we will have more custom ROMs such as CM9 and CM10.
I could be wrong, but does it have something do with proprietary drivers not being compatible with the linux kernel version that each new major Android version requires?
Now I'm just thinking to get Jelly Bean! I'm not even worried about the next big update from Google!
One thing at the time!
I've already accepted that the G2x won't get KLP
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Really getting ahead of yourself aren't you?
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C'mon man even Arnold left the terminator 4 alone.... just learn to let go of things will ya? after JB ofcourse
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How about this question them: Do major android revisions require a newer kernel version, and if so, is that why the proprietary video drivers get broken after a major release?
The major issue was that with 4.0 ICS, Google fundamentally changed the way that Android operated, so that the operating system and the apps would use hardware-based graphical acceleration. The drivers for this were not available for the G2x because NVidia was trying very hard to stop supporting the old Tegra 2 CPUs, or something, I don't know, there was drama and everybody was blaming everyone else.
Now that we've had updates for the su660 and the p990 with kernel source code and proprietary hardware acceleration drivers for ICS, this should let us keep basic compatibility through most of the future Android versions.
Obviously as it gets more features added it might become too bulky and CPU-intensive for our phones, but that shouldn't be for a while.
The only major breakage I can think of is if a future version of Android requires the NEON instruction set, which the Tegra 2 does not support.
The kernel itself being updated shouldn't be much of an issue.
Ram requirements will be a problem.
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Depending on when klp comes out I hope the g2x can run it. This phone had to last me a bit longer till I get rid of debt and save to buy a nexus 4
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kurbstar said:
How about this question them: Do major android revisions require a newer kernel version, and if so, is that why the proprietary video drivers get broken after a major release?
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The culprit is NVIDIA. They have not followed Linux guide lines. Their drivers are tied to specific kernel versions.
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Speculation about KLP when we haven't got ICS or even Jellybean or CM10 is self-abuse and surely will lead to total madness.
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Speculation about KLP when we haven't got ICS or even Jellybean or CM10 is self-abuse and surely will lead to total madness.
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Totally agree.
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kesara said:
The culprit is NVIDIA. They have not followed Linux guide lines. Their drivers are tied to specific kernel versions.
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is it because of limitations of the drivers, or just for ****s and giggles? AMD does the same crap, and considering the Radeon 3650 on my Thinkpad T500 isn't getting regular updates anymore to compensate for updated kernels, I'm stuck with the subpar open source drivers.
And I didn't intend on starting some sort of war....I was just generally curious
When do you guys think sense 5 Roms will be available and ported to the One XL
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89.7 days. . Give or take three days as my margin of error
I would wish people on xda would be a bit more mature I don't need smart ass answers. I know the HTC One is being released in March. Sometimes developers receive them early etc.
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How are we supposed to know? Not a smart ass answer, but it's the truth.
Maybe when the One is released a dev can port it, but it's probably going to be a pain in the ass considering the phone is going to be running an entirely different chipset.
Devs on this forum don't receive anything from directly from HTC or another manufacturer btw except any sort of leak, but there hasn't been one around here in ages.
Once the One gets out you'll most likely see a port... I don't think the chipset is going to affect it that much if we have a good kernel
Any one have any idea when the successor will come out?
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Nope nothing been released yet.
With all the bad press the prime and infinity got it wouldn't surprise me if Asus don't do anymore high end tablets for a while.
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Nope nothing been released yet.
With all the bad press the prime and infinity got it wouldn't surprise me if Asus don't do anymore high end tablets for a while.
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That sucks they're the only tablet maker with speedy consistent updates.
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I'm willing to bet the successor will use a Tegra 4 SoC. From the articles that I've read, this would mean a release date around August.
I don't think the Infinity is getting the bad press that you think. Sure it has its faults but every product has some sort of fault. It's still rated as a top Android device and aside from the annoyance with the memory used, many people love their device. I really enjoied my Prime but the issue with BT audio made the tablet useless for my purpose of portable media.
I'm not really finding bad press about the tablet other than disgruntled owners who post on forums.
Keep in mind too that ASUS has been busy building and selling the Nexus for Google, Add to that the two new devices, the PadFone and the FonePad that BGR is talking about and you see they have actually been doing a lot of new devices and getting good press for them.
I'm just scared the next one won't have a tegra 4. I've bought too many tegra games to change to a different soc
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