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Well, I saw a Rogers user posting his comments after a week of use so I figured I'd post some opinion as well, especially since I disagree with several of his opinions.
First, I've noticed the wi-fi issue as well. As with some other posters my router is not known to be super reliable, so that could have some impact. Also, it seems that some folks are having success switching to G instead of N and that may also help as I believe I am on G at work and I haven't had any issue with wi-fi at work. Hopefully this can be fixed with a software update.
I first reported some disappointment with the warm hue of the screen, and either it is growing on me or it is burning in a little bit and the tans, greens, and oranges are starting to look better. The screen as a whole looks fantastic. Several people have remarked how it looks like a sticker on the phone or like the image is sitting on top of the glass. The resolution is fantastic and everything looks crisp vibrant. Reds, blues, and yellows look fine too. White seems pretty white to me. When comparing a white screen on the HOX to an AMOLED screen the HOX looks white and the AMOLED looks blue.
Battery life is about what I was expecting and seems to be on-par with the international version. I've not had any trouble making it from 8AM to 11PM even with pretty heavy usage. It's not as good as my Captivate on AOKP which could make it ~30 hrs under my normal usage which is relatively light. Because the HOX is such a great phone and it's brand new I've been using it a lot more so the most I think I've gotten is 18 or 19 hours which most people would consider fantastic in consideration of the usage.
Camera is by no means average and it absolutely smokes the iPhone 4S. I took some test shots with my wife's iPhone and the HOX just blows it away. The flash is much better, but even in low light without the flash the HOX looks better, has less grain to the photos and generally focuses better and has better color reproduction. The speed of the camera is incredible and using the burst mode to capture a moment is a stroke of genius if you have a dog or a kid that you want to take a pic of them doing something cute.
I've not had any status bar icon issues or in call volume adjustment.
My biggest complaint is not being able to turn off LTE since I'm not in an LTE area. I tried using a different APN and I didn't notice any difference and it didn't improve my battery life at all. I only had the new APN for ~2 days but I felt I may have been getting worse battery life, but certainly wasn't getting better battery life so I just went back to the stock APN.
I guess the Rogers poster was coming from an iPhone and remarked on a slight lag moving between homescreens. This is exagerated to say the least. This phone with sense 4.0 is the fastest UI I've seen on an android phone and the only phone that is more fluid is the iphone and that is due to apple putting realtime priority on UI rendering computations while Android puts industry standard normal priority on rendering. No matter how good the code is, no matter how fast the processor is, it's just never going to look like the iphone because it's never going to have realtime priority. That said, this phone responds instantly to all touches in virtually all parts of the phone. The only times I've seen lag is either app related or network related. It's a great user experience.
Another concern I saw in some other threads that I completely agree with is that the white smudges easily. In addition, the polycarbonate shell may be very durable in that it protects the phone, but it's basically the same material as a LEGO and as such can be dented with a drop as I've unfortunately experienced already. As far as the smudging the phone wipes back to a bright white easily, but probably needs to be cleaned every few days to keep it bright white and not getting dull. The white looks fantastic, best looking white phone out there, but I'd have to reluctantly recommend the grey if you aren't going to use a case in order to hide some dirt and dings more easily.
Overall, this is a fantastic phone. HTC has lived up to the hype and produced THE top android the device out right now. If you want the best in basically every area, you want an HOX right now, and it doesn't look like Samsung is going to beat it and it's going to take quite some time for the S3 to come to the US. If you've got an ATT upgrade in the next 2 months, you'd be crazy not to drop it on the HOX.
Hey since your on the AT & T version and you don't have the setting to turn LTE off. Type *#*#4636#*#* go to phone information and you can switch it to GSM/HSPA only. Let me know if that works for you!
My two biggest concerns right now are the wi-fi performance (which seems to be real and potentially fixed with a software update) and the battery life. In a few days we should see professional reviews for the AT&T model that will be able to compare the international and LTE editions under equal usage.
I know the white is harder to keep clean but I really prefer the look of it over the grey. Maybe I'd just make the effort to keep it clean.
I also think the camera lens is an issue with respect to scratches. I don't plan on using a case 95% of the time, so I'd have to find a DIY way to cover said lens while not in use. (I was thinking a small piece of electrical tape or something along those lines.)
I'm also going to wait until the WWDC keynote next month to see what Apple has in store for iOS 6.
If the wi-fi issue can get settled, battery life is solid while using LTE, iOS 6 isn't leaps and bounds better than iOS 5, then I'll probably make the jump. Some things to line up first though.
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Camera is by no means average and it absolutely smokes the iPhone 4S. I took some test shots with my wife's iPhone and the HOX just blows it away. The flash is much better, but even in low light without the flash the HOX looks better, has less grain to the photos and generally focuses better and has better color reproduction. The speed of the camera is incredible and using the burst mode to capture a moment is a stroke of genius if you have a dog or a kid that you want to take a pic of them doing something cute.
I've not had any status bar icon issues or in call volume adjustment.
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I did some more testing with the camera and no doubt it is able to create some fairly high quality shots. I just find the camera experience a bit easier overall with the i4s. We have matte grey walls at home and for some reason they always show up weird and distorted, I'll take a pic after work tonight and post it to show you what I mean.. I'll also post a comparison pic off the iPhone camera.
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Hey since your on the AT & T version and you don't have the setting to turn LTE off. Type *#*#4636#*#* go to phone information and you can switch it to GSM/HSPA only. Let me know if that works for you!
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Tried this before and posted results in my first thread about it. Doesn't work.
Odd question, can you do time lapse videos? I know this is an ICS thing, just wondering if HTC left it in?
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Odd question, can you do time lapse videos? I know this is an ICS thing, just wondering if HTC left it in?
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I don't have the phone yet but i remember from reading a review from neowin that they left the time lapse feature out.
blairh said:
My two biggest concerns right now are the wi-fi performance (which seems to be real and potentially fixed with a software update) and the battery life. In a few days we should see professional reviews for the AT&T model that will be able to compare the international and LTE editions under equal usage.
I know the white is harder to keep clean but I really prefer the look of it over the grey. Maybe I'd just make the effort to keep it clean.
I also think the camera lens is an issue with respect to scratches. I don't plan on using a case 95% of the time, so I'd have to find a DIY way to cover said lens while not in use. (I was thinking a small piece of electrical tape or something along those lines.)
I'm also going to wait until the WWDC keynote next month to see what Apple has in store for iOS 6.
If the wi-fi issue can get settled, battery life is solid while using LTE, iOS 6 isn't leaps and bounds better than iOS 5, then I'll probably make the jump. Some things to line up first though.
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I know a lot of user's are concerned about getting the white version dirty, eBay has some clear gel cases for 2$, figured I'd share since a clear case won't hide the beauty of this device
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rambo8987 said:
I know a lot of user's are concerned about getting the white version dirty, eBay has some clear gel cases for 2$, figured I'd share since a clear case won't hide the beauty of this device
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No clue if I'll end up getting the One X, but if I do, I'm only going to use a case when necessary (working around the house, etc). Love the way that polycarbonate feels in my hand. Camera lens needs to be covered with something though.
Has anyone messed with the APN settings and noticed a difference in battery life. You definitely can force HSPA/+.
There's been some negativity around here lately. I'm guilty of spreading some of it. So here's a thread for us to say something good about the HOX.
Here's mine. I'm sitting here on the beach composing this thread and I can see the screen just fine. This phone has the best screen of any device that I have ever had.
I put my sunglasses on and couldn't see my ipad screen in portrait mode.
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Even though it's not made out of anodized aluminum like my old nokia n8, this phone is built like a tank...but an elegant tank (oxymoron?). It's one of the most visually appealing devices I've had and feels great in the hand. Also as gunny mentioned the screen is ridiculous, best on the market IMHO. Lastly and probably most importantly for me, the battery. On AOKP 6.2 I'm easily getting 2 days with light to moderate use. Right now the One X is the perfect phone for me.
Love everything about this phone. Brightest screen i've ever seen, even on 30% brightness. Camera sensor in the HOX beats out my point and shoot, even the DSLR that my dad uses for his shots. Rugged as well, friend dropped his HOX several times on concrete and is still alive with minor scrapes along the frame. The fact that I can laugh at my iPhone counterparts that their ENTIRE phone is my screen, they feel inadequate after that =).
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This is my first android phone, I came from and iPhone 4, and what a difference! I love the huge screen, and the quality is amazing, nothing beats it. I can actually use the phone in sunlight with sunglasses on!! It is also blazing fast, from unlock to taking a picture is under 10 seconds. The same thing would have taken at least 20 before.
Oh and the design, best looking phone out there today, Period.
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Oh and the design, best looking phone out there today, Period.
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I still find myself taking off my ballistic case just to stare at the beauty of the phone.
Performance is as good as I need it to be and development is plenty IMO. We're not overflowing with support but we have some of the best developers and all the major roms are already available.
We just need some more kernel sexiness.
I came to this phone from the HTC Amaze and my god is it beautiful. I feel guilty of even putting a transparent case on it because of how good it looks and feels. I also love the camera of this phone which provides absoloutly stunning pictures. In addition, like everyone else here I too am in love with the screen.
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I dropped it on tile floor from 5 ft and it didn't get ONE scratch. I also accidentally pulled it half apart because my case sucks and it still is fine
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I still find myself taking off my ballistic case just to stare at the beauty of the phone.
Performance is as good as I need it to be and development is plenty IMO. We're not overflowing with support but we have some of the best developers and all the major roms are already available.
We just need some more kernel sexiness.
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Yep. I don't know why people are complaining about development (*cough*gunny*cough*). We have plenty of top quality ROMs and AOSP is kicking off nicely. All I really care about is that there is one ROM that I like, and there is, so I'm happy. Of course that ROM is CleanROM. So you take what is easily the worlds sexiest design for a cell phone, toss in the amazing processing power of the S4, add to it the best Sense ROM I've ever run, and you get my One X, which is easily the best phone I've ever owned. Completely renewed my love affair with Android, something that only the OG EVO 4G was able to do before.
I gave up on cases and went straight to white carbon fiber ghost armor. So sexy.
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Yep. I don't know why people are complaining about development (*cough*gunny*cough*). We have plenty of top quality ROMs and AOSP is kicking off nicely. All I really care about is that is one ROM that I like, and there is, so I'm happy. Of course that ROM is CleanROM. So you take what is easily the worlds sexiest design for a cell phone, toss in the amazing processing power of the S4, add to it the best Sense ROM I've ever run, and you get my One X, which is easily the best phone I've ever owned. Completely renewed my love affair with Android, something that only the OG EVO 4G was able to do before.
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I haven't complained about development at all. We have some great devs and some awesome work from them. My concern is, and I think it's valid, unless we get sanctioned Bootloader unlock from ATT/HTC we're screwed. Having to chase down an exploit every time we get an update is a royal pain in the ass.
Anyhow, back on topic.
This is the phone that made me leave my Nexus One behind. Honestly, until now, I haven't wanted a new phone. Despite being stuck on unrooted 2.2, the UI is very smooth, the devs have done some great work for it considering how limited they've been due to source, and the camera on this phone is sexy as hell.
I love my HOX and the devs here at XDA!
The screen is phenomenal. I don't think there's a screen that can compare right now except for maybe the evo lte. I've never seen a phone with such a beautiful screen.
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H1X is a bad ass. The only "issue" I ever had with it is the multitasking.... everything else is peoples preference. The OneX is probably one of the nicest phones ever made....right under the SGSII....which is still the love of my life....but the OneX is right there with it....and to me that is saying a lot.
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I put my sunglasses on and couldn't see my ipad screen in portrait mode.
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And you can see it in landscape? Sunglasses are polarized?
LCDs use a polarizing film to display the screen images. So the light coming from the LCD is polarized in one direction. If the polarization of your sunglasses are polarized a certain way (opposite, I suppose?) then no light from the display will get through your sunglasses, and the display will appear blank. But don't know why the One X is mostly immune to this. When viewed with polarized sunglasses on, I can still see the One X screen, but some of the colors seem "off". Like there is some polarization effect happening, but not enough to make the whole screen invisible.
Had my hox since pre release on May 4th and never looked back or regretted my descision and not one return or exchange. I love the look of this phone I struggled for months to even put a case on it but since I won one (thanks to metal head) I have started to but still damn sexy. The screen is just beautiful even on the brightest days. Coming from the aria where development was low but high quality the development here is top notch and a nice mix of rom options. Last the hox community here on xda is fantastic everyone helps and for the most are quite nice. Honestly I couldn't be happier with my hox.
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And you can see it in landscape? Sunglasses are polarized?
LCDs use a polarizing film to display the screen images. So the light coming from the LCD is polarized in one direction. If the polarization of your sunglasses are polarized a certain way (opposite, I suppose?) then no light from the display will get through your sunglasses, and the display will appear blank. But don't know why the One X is mostly immune to this. When viewed with polarized sunglasses on, I can still see the One X screen, but some of the colors seem "off". Like there is some polarization effect happening, but not enough to make the whole screen invisible.
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Yes I can see it in Landscape but not in portrait. Stupid design choice IMHO
The camera. Need I say more?
This is the best phone I've had period..
I have people all the time that see my phone go "what phone is that?"
I also love the conversations with people that believe their iphone is a better phone.. Just whip out my screen shot that has 1day 15hrs on one charge and the conversation is over.
I also like to whip out my screen shot that shows my 30 meg + download
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I love my hox, good thread Gunny!
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a breath a fresh air from seemingly countless complaint threads.
3 months with the One X and it never leaves my side. It totally replaced my point and shoot (which was crap anyway), not big on photography but the One X is amazing for what it is. and very durable. i bought cases but never use them, i end up taking them off at the end of the day. and this thing has weathered through many beach trips without a single scratch (sand in the pockets are a silent killer.)
After having mine now for an hour and using it....the fingerprint scanner doesn't work as good as I would like it. My thumb is at an angle when holding the phone. I added it in using that angle, but it wants you to come straight down, which means I have to change the way i hold it to use it and have it register.
Verizon added so much bloat it's crazy!
the heart rate monitor. absolutely useless to over 90% of the consumers.... maybe even 95%
Seems they screwed up adding all the extra features that as mentioned here, a lot probably will not use. Finger print scanners are prone to screw up and the heart rate sensor seems frilly for most. The cost of this "customer will like it" fluff is a bigger device. The device IMO is now too big in relation to the display and awkward with one hand for most people. The S4 was near borderline already.
Samsung truly has a bloat and new feature fetish. They seem to think the combination appeals more to customers. For the majority it seems No, but the minority is perhaps Yes. Catch is everyone gets stuck with a bigger, bloat ridden device- like it or not if want the S5.
The funny thing is the S5 now has near the same overall size of my S4 with a bigger battery.
M8 is also too big IMO, so the S5 is not alone in this regard.
I actually found the chrome trim be terrible looking, and despite my plans not to use a case, had to get a thin black bumper to cover it. There is no doubt the M8 looks better, and is very comfortable to hold. I had to have the S5 because the screen just seemed much better, and part of it isn't wasted by the nav bar like on the M8.
I haven't had enough time to play with all of the features yet, however the screen has been nothing but impressive so far. I don't like the new settings so far, but that's probably because I'm just not used to it.
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M8 is also too big IMO, so the S5 is not alone in this regard.
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My biggest beef with the M8 was that the speakers make the phone so much bigger than it needs to be. If you hold the S5 and the M8 next to eachother there is about half an inch of wasted space, especially if you factor in the navbar. For people that use the speakers, it might be worth it, but I would not.
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I actually found the chrome trim be terrible looking, and despite my plans not to use a case, had to get a thin black bumper to cover it. There is no doubt the M8 looks better, and is very comfortable to hold. I had to have the S5 because the screen just seemed much better, and part of it isn't wasted by the nav bar like on the M8.
I haven't had enough time to play with all of the features yet, however the screen has been nothing but impressive so far. I don't like the new settings so far, but that's probably because I'm just not used to it.
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My biggest beef with the M8 was that the speakers make the phone so much bigger than it needs to be. If you hold the S5 and the M8 next to eachother there is about half an inch of wasted space, especially if you factor in the navbar. For people that use the speakers, it might be worth it, but I would not.
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How is the screen in direct sunlight? I saw a review comparing it with others at max brightness which showed not much improvement. I think only Auto-Brightness will really max out the screen's brightness and I'm not sure if they manually maxed it out or it was it on auto.
And are you using it on the default mode or did you change it to cinematic?
i love the fingerprint scanner..works perfectly for my thumb for 1 handed use..
only thing i'm not liking right now is it seems to have that same body shift issue my white S3 had, that my S4 didn't..like as if the battery isn't big enough for the cavity, so it moves and makes the body feel like its twisting so it makes some lil snappy creak noises. kinda sucks, but oh well. maybe the battery just isn't big enough for the spot,w ho knows.
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How is the screen in direct sunlight? I saw a review comparing it with others at max brightness which showed not much improvement. I think only Auto-Brightness will really max out the screen's brightness and I'm not sure if they manually maxed it out or it was it on auto.
And are you using it on the default mode or did you change it to cinematic?
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Granted I only spent about 5 minutes with it outside so far, but the difference was HUGE from my S3 (which I really struggled with in the sun). I did not mess with any display settings yet, so it was all default. I got it on lunch and I'm working, so I've only been able to play with it here and there.
The display continues to be impressive, which is the main reason I wanted it. I can't speak to the difference between the s4-5, but between the 3 and 5 its night and day.
I'm excited to get it home and drop in a sink of water.
I like the phone. Definitely has a lot of features that I won't use but that's a Galaxy device. If we're on XDA, we know what we're getting into. The bigger size to achieve the IP67 certification is somewhat annoying but again, nothing unexpected and a nice feature. One that I'm sure will save more than a few people. So, despite the usually Galaxy "extras", I'm enjoying it. I will have to get a replacement as there is a permanent " smudge " on the display. Almost as if there's a coating for the IP67 certification and that coating wasn't applied correctly. No biggie. As long as VZW cooperates lol.
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Not going to lie I hate this phone, they dropped the ball in gs5, I am not going to use it until the gracious devs get root and unlocked bootloader
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damn..i just took some outdoors pics and they came out terrible. like, awful.
full light shots outdoors in the sun, blacks were coming out smudgy and blotchy and not good at all..i'm going to be super pissed if this camera turns out to be worse than my G2..that's the whole damn reason why i got this phone.
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damn..i just took some outdoors pics and they came out terrible. like, awful.
full light shots outdoors in the sun, blacks were coming out smudgy and blotchy and not good at all..i'm going to be super pissed if this camera turns out to be worse than my G2..that's the whole damn reason why i got this phone.
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Let's see these pics. No way worse than G2.
Not liking the recent apps button. Came from an s3 and I'm used to tapping for the menu to come up. Now it's needs a long press. If I could just swap the long and short press functions I would pretty happy. Only had it since 10am.
Screen is definitely better than the s3. Using it to navigate on the dash on a bright sunny made it very apparent. S3 looked dark and hard to see, the s5 looked way better and easy to see.
The chrome around this all black is not to my taste, but I'm hoping my new uag case will cover it.
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damn..i just took some outdoors pics and they came out terrible. like, awful.
full light shots outdoors in the sun, blacks were coming out smudgy and blotchy and not good at all..i'm going to be super pissed if this camera turns out to be worse than my G2..that's the whole damn reason why i got this phone.
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You might find this interesting. I've spent the afternoon confirming these results.
http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/sm...rs.com&subid=cfcd208495d565ef66e7dff9f98764da
Edit: that is a huge link!
cRookeD Nexus 5
Crooke356 said:
You might find this interesting. I've spent the afternoon confirming these results.
http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/sm...rs.com&subid=cfcd208495d565ef66e7dff9f98764da
Edit: that is a huge link!
cRookeD Nexus 5
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Lol yeah its huge. Lol.
So pretty much great camera with some bad moments?
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I just took this in my garage...cam is fine for me.
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Not going to lie I hate this phone, they dropped the ball in gs5, I am not going to use it until the gracious devs get root and unlocked bootloader
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If you hate it....not sure what you were expecting over what you saw on the S4.
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Lol yeah its huge. Lol.
So pretty much great camera with some bad moments?
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Yea. From all the devices I've ever owned, and it's a lot, that seems to be the case. Except for iPhone. I've never owned one but it's apparently perfect
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I just dropped mine a sink full of water. Still kicking. I recorded the drop.
I just realized that the screen lights up every time I get a text. Stays on for a few secs, but I cannot change that.
Light Manager works......w/out root.
I am not disappointed in my purchase. And the development is already extraordinary.
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Lovin every second spent with this device. No complaints on my end.
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Best phone on Verizon right now unless you're a cell phone photographer.
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Best phone I've had in years
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I like it a lot. Not the slightest bit of stuttering yet. I've yet to root because I don't need it yet and I'd like my warranty to last at least a few months. Sadly on stock my ps3 controller OTG doesn't work. Might sound pity but that was a huge letdown.
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I traded my lockeddown galaxy s4 and all its accessories for this phone as soon s-off had been achieved. lucky me that a friend was adding a new line but wanted the s4 and has zero intentions of doing any modifications to the the phone. I am very impressed with this phone my only irritation is that if I have one of my pics set as wallpaper after a restart it's totally zoomed in/resized. this isn't egregious enough for me to actually try and fix though... not that it stays long anyway being flash happy lol.
I am happy with mine. I have a few problems but they are relatively minor.
1. Speaker grills. Make sure you get one that the grills are flush with the glass if you are going to use a screen protector that goes around the speakers.
2. Why in the hell would HTC only put a red/green LED notification light on it???? That is plain stupid.
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I like it a lot. Not the slightest bit of stuttering yet. I've yet to root because I don't need it yet and I'd like my warranty to last at least a few months. Sadly on stock my ps3 controller OTG doesn't work. Might sound pity but that was a huge letdown.
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If you have an XBox 360 controller, they supposedly work via OTG also. I only have a wireless controller (which didn't come with a USB charger cable, or else I lost it) so I can't test it.
As far as the M8....I love it. Development is great, and the M8 itself is a fantastic device. I just wish the radios were a bit stronger. I have frequent issues at my gym with the reception cutting out, which apparently the phone doesn't deal with very well...I have to toggle airplane mode to get data going again, which happens usually 2-3 times during a workout. However, the reception inside my gym is horrible anyway (and it's only slightly better out in the parking lot. usually 1-2 bars, max).
Also, I do feel bad about hiding this beautiful phone inside of a case, but the damn thing is just too slippery...
Terrific phone, best available right now for sure. For a long time I completely undervalued a great stock software experience thinking CM would provide a better experience than, say, touchwiz. I was very wrong. CM on the GS3 was mostly stable, but that's just it... Mostly. It never got to the point of stability that CM7 enjoyed with Gingerbread. Things are different now.
HTC by far has the best stock experience of any manufacturer skin available. I find this experience to be equal to AOSP in my tastes. They did an elegant job.
Quality control/build quality is something I've learned a lot about by having this phone. I don't think I'm going to pit a metal chassis as highly as I did when deciding to go with this phone.
I had to return two of them due to minor imperfections and decided to settle with this one which over time is seeming to degrade dramatically.
- One of the plastic strips on the back is sunken in a bit and yields sharp edges when you run your fingers across it. It also looks bad from certain angles.
- My camera does not sit evenly in its hole. Rather, it's slightly tilted by 5-10 degrees. As far as I can tell this does not affect picture quality but again, feels unpleasant when your finger glides across the camera hole which you will occasionally.
- Speaking about fingers on camera, you'll be wiping it down a bit to clear the smudges. It's indented nature will make it harder to fully clean. Because of this, its easy to scratch the lens. I'm looking into camera lens protectors now.
- As mentioned, the speaker grills are problematic. Mine are mostly flush with the screen, but again, it's that MOSTLY again. On top of that, my bottom grill seems to have minor warping/a wavy surface. Light reflections emphasize this flaw but it's probably the least of my worries.
It's funny how I thought I was getting this phone for it's superior materials and build and ended up feeling unfulfilled in that aspect but being fully enamored with the software. Most of my build flaws are either diminished or not noticeable covered by a case, which I always use a little protection. Because of this, plastic is fine for me in the future if it means more consistent quality and longevity. I don't feel the superior materials when I'm using a case anyway.
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I traded my lockeddown galaxy s4 and all its accessories for this phone as soon s-off had been achieved. lucky me that a friend was adding a new line but wanted the s4 and has zero intentions of doing any modifications to the the phone. I am very impressed with this phone my only irritation is that if I have one of my pics set as wallpaper after a restart it's totally zoomed in/resized. this isn't egregious enough for me to actually try and fix though... not that it stays long anyway being flash happy lol.
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Damn you got so lucky!
I had to sell Note 3 (locked) to get this phone. I also had a One Max in between.
85gallon said:
I am happy with mine. I have a few problems but they are relatively minor.
1. Speaker grills. Make sure you get one that the grills are flush with the glass if you are going to use a screen protector that goes around the speakers.
2. Why in the hell would HTC only put a red/green LED notification light on it???? That is plain stupid.
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1. This is true. My first and second HTC One M7 had bad problems with unevenness.
2. Thats the best part about it. I love it! The HTC One M7 the light was barely noticeable. Now I can see it!
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Terrific phone, best available right now for sure. For a long time I completely undervalued a great stock software experience thinking CM would provide a better experience than, say, touchwiz. I was very wrong. CM on the GS3 was mostly stable, but that's just it... Mostly. It never got to the point of stability that CM7 enjoyed with Gingerbread. Things are different now.
HTC by far has the best stock experience of any manufacturer skin available. I find this experience to be equal to AOSP in my tastes. They did an elegant job.
Quality control/build quality is something I've learned a lot about by having this phone. I don't think I'm going to pit a metal chassis as highly as I did when deciding to go with this phone.
I had to return two of them due to minor imperfections and decided to settle with this one which over time is seeming to degrade dramatically.
- One of the plastic strips on the back is sunken in a bit and yields sharp edges when you run your fingers across it. It also looks bad from certain angles.
- My camera does not sit evenly in its hole. Rather, it's slightly tilted by 5-10 degrees. As far as I can tell this does not affect picture quality but again, feels unpleasant when your finger glides across the camera hole which you will occasionally.
- Speaking about fingers on camera, you'll be wiping it down a bit to clear the smudges. It's indented nature will make it harder to fully clean. Because of this, its easy to scratch the lens. I'm looking into camera lens protectors now.
- As mentioned, the speaker grills are problematic. Mine are mostly flush with the screen, but again, it's that MOSTLY again. On top of that, my bottom grill seems to have minor warping/a wavy surface. Light reflections emphasize this flaw but it's probably the least of my worries.
It's funny how I thought I was getting this phone for it's superior materials and build and ended up feeling unfulfilled in that aspect but being fully enamored with the software. Most of my build flaws are either diminished or not noticeable covered by a case, which I always use a little protection. Because of this, plastic is fine for me in the future if it means more consistent quality and longevity. I don't feel the superior materials when I'm using a case anyway.
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-Plastic Strips: Wow, that does blow. After you mentioned that I tested mine to see if they were like yours. Not at all. Completely smooth. You cannot detect a variance in height variance. Even while running my fingernail over them.
- Camera fit: I inspected mine; Perfect symmetry.
- Speaker grills. I know this issue well because of M7. I got lucky on this one because that offset drove me insane.
TBH: with all the little tweaks your phone has... It sounds like it has been dropped or twisted. Yes it could be bad build quality as well but I would really hate to think that.
is there any way you can exchange yours? Mine is near perfect, its sad to see yours is so... crappy.
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-Plastic Strips: Wow, that does blow. After you mentioned that I tested mine to see if they were like yours. Not at all. Completely smooth. You cannot detect a variance in hight however, as suspected the material feels different but not unexpected
- Camera fit: I inspected mine as well. Perfect symmetry.
- Speaker grills. I know this issue well because of M7. I got lucky on this one because that offset drove me insane.
TBH: with all the little tweaks your phone has... It sounds like it has been dropped or twisted. Yes it could be bad build quality as well but I would really hate to think that.
is there any way you can exchange yours? Mine is near perfect, its sad to see yours is so... crappy.
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Yeah I just got unlucky but oh well I'll live. The first time it was a tiny crack in the corner, the second time was a bump on the bottom speaker grill and was tired of replacing so I decided to just live with the third. I feel like it's punishment for being so picky or something lol
I'm past the 14 day return window but even if I wasn't I was tired of bothering the people at the Verizon store. It's a third party one and they were really nice and helped me keep my unlimited data, so I felt like I was being a hassle. It's also my fault for not examining it close enough to notice the crooked camera, even when they were insisting that I deeply inspect it before going with it.
No drops at all either. I've had it in a case practically since I got it as well. Hell maybe it's the case's fault (for the plastic bands, at least). Sounds like you got lucky, I figure it's just my turn to have some quirks as I've been pretty lucky with tech up to this point. Honestly I'm probably making them sound a lot worse than they actually are too.
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2. Thats the best part about it. I love it! The HTC One M7 the light was barely noticeable. Now I can see it!
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Well I am having that problem with this phone. It is barely noticeable. But I am coming from a Moto RAZR MAXX with a large LED that is capable of multiple colors. I had lightflow set to use blue/white mostly. Some yellow. I guess the main reason I am *****ing is because I am red/green color blind. I can't tell the difference in the colors they offer (red/green)
I don't expect special treatment, but WHY do companies CONTINUE to offer colors that are not visible/distinguishable by about 10% of the population? Why not just use easily distinguishable colors? Like Blue and Yellow.
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I'm happy with mine. I don't see any of the flaws mentioned here or anywhere else for that matter. Camera, speaker grills, screen, they are all as they should be. As far as I can see anyway. I love this phone.
That said, I do have one and only one beef about it. The notification LED. No, not that it's not bright enough or the colors available. It's that it only stays on for 5 minutes or so. I'll admit I haven't spent a whole bunch of time searching for an answer but I've spent enough and have yet to come up with a way to make it stay on until I've looked at whatever it is it's notifying me about. Sounds like it's been this way a bit for HTC for a while though. This is my first HTC phone and I'm used to picking up the phone and seeing that light flash. Regardless of how long ago it's been since I've received a call, text or whatever. I'd much prefer to be able to just glance at the phone and see if anything's happening as opposed to having to pick it up and turn on the screen.
I suppose they do it for battery savings. Don't know. But, I find it hard to believe that turning that little diode off after 5 minutes saves anything worth saving. It's not like it's going to be 2 days before I look at it. That said, I can't blame it on the phone. It's HTC's software that comes into play there.
Anyway, other than that, I'm a happy camper.
Yes, yes I did.. get lucky with obtaining this phone. ???
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Yeah I just got unlucky but oh well I'll live. The first time it was a tiny crack in the corner, the second time was a bump on the bottom speaker grill and was tired of replacing so I decided to just live with the third. I feel like it's punishment for being so picky or something lol
I'm past the 14 day return window but even if I wasn't I was tired of bothering the people at the Verizon store. It's a third party one and they were really nice and helped me keep my unlimited data, so I felt like I was being a hassle. It's also my fault for not examining it close enough to notice the crooked camera, even when they were insisting that I deeply inspect it before going with it.
No drops at all either. I've had it in a case practically since I got it as well. Hell maybe it's the case's fault (for the plastic bands, at least). Sounds like you got lucky, I figure it's just my turn to have some quirks as I've been pretty lucky with tech up to this point. Honestly I'm probably making them sound a lot worse than they actually are too.
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Just a follow up to this and a warning to any others out there, I managed to reset my camera lens to a very level angle (maybe 0.5-1 degrees off still) by pressing gently but firmly down on the raised side.
I think what may have happened is I pressed down a little too hard when cleaning the lens, causing it to become uneven. So be gentle when you wipe down your camera lens!
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Definitely happy with my purchased of the M8. 1 flaw we all kno Wat that is but besides that I pleased . Not one lag unlock boot loaders s-off can't get no better. And 6 sense smooth no delays waiting for apps to open.
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Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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xmoox said:
Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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If you get a GS5, make sure you get one with a good camera. They are failing miserably. LOL
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/samsung-to-replace-galaxy-s5-phones-affected-by-faulty-84127046184.html
xmoox said:
Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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There was recently a leaked photo of a Verizon Xperia Z2. I'd sooner get a Z2 than a GS5.
I agree with many of your points though I just don't think anyone should have to deal with the horror that is Touchwiz.
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Of course, the One (M8) isn't a phone that's going to be to everyone's tastes. It's amazing product, the camera is fantastic and the battery has improved a bit and also with its with it's stunning design, this with the price. Everything I'm looking for a smartphone, its already here! Since I bought my M8, I did embrace and love it since then.
I pre-ordered the xz2c with the wireless headphones bundle offer... can't wait to try it, will post my impressions here once I get it.
if anyone got it already or will get it before me, can please share his/her first impressions based on real usage? especially comments on camera quality... thanks!
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I pre-ordered the xz2c with the wireless headphones bundle offer... can't wait to try it, will post my impressions here once I get it.
if anyone got it already or will get it before me, can please share his/her first impressions based on real usage? especially comments on camera quality... thanks!
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So will the old xz3c folks play with an decent compact phone, once again?! I really hope so (and I'm in)! :highfive:
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So will the old xz3c folks play with an decent compact phone, once again?! I really hope so (and I'm in)! :highfive:
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wonderful chief, this is great news! :victory:
this is the only nice phone being released nowadays not having a huge 6" screen or damned edges/notch so... :good:
hope to see you too here around soon so! great we can expect wonderful contributions from your side :good::victory:
I can't wait to see what the camera can do with the gcam hdr+
Just ordered a XZ2 Compact in White Silver. This will be my first Sony phone. Kinda excited.
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Just ordered a XZ2 Compact in White Silver. This will be my first Sony phone. Kinda excited.
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I've had plenty of Sony's in my past, but I am in no way a fan boy. I'm interested in your thoughts, but I give you some things I've found across the 4-5 I've owned;
1) The build quality of Sony devices are typically very good. Just picking them up is a pleasure.
2) You may find the interface interesting at first, but it typically is not far off from stock, and they do have some nice apps. (PS, I miss the tiny apps or whatever they were called).
3) I love the camera button - you'll miss it once you don't have it
4) It seems that volume for music etc is typically lower than on other devices. It used to take rooting and changing build prop etc... to make it LOUD. GSM review seems to like audio on the xz2
5) Updates are frequent
6) Root is easy to acheive, but breaks some things until the wonderful modders get involved and fake the DRM keys
7) #6 makes custom rom's a fools errand early on - Hopefully Trebel helps that and the DRM thing becomes easier
8) If you think the battery will last X, it will shock you how much longer than X it lasts. Sony is PHENOMENAL with power management.
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I've had plenty of Sony's in my past, but I am in no way a fan boy. I'm interested in your thoughts, but I give you some things I've found across the 4-5 I've owned;
1) The build quality of Sony devices are typically very good. Just picking them up is a pleasure.
2) You may find the interface interesting at first, but it typically is not far off from stock, and they do have some nice apps. (PS, I miss the tiny apps or whatever they were called).
3) I love the camera button - you'll miss it once you don't have it
4) It seems that volume for music etc is typically lower than on other devices. It used to take rooting and changing build prop etc... to make it LOUD. GSM review seems to like audio on the xz2
5) Updates are frequent
6) Root is easy to acheive, but breaks some things until the wonderful modders get involved and fake the DRM keys
7) #6 makes custom rom's a fools errand early on - Hopefully Trebel helps that and the DRM thing becomes easier
8) If you think the battery will last X, it will shock you how much longer than X it lasts. Sony is PHENOMENAL with power management.
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Sounds interesting. About your point (6) and "fake the DRM keys." What is that about & why is it necessary for Sony phones?
optimummind said:
Just ordered a XZ2 Compact in White Silver. This will be my first Sony phone. Kinda excited.
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same here.. color and excitement I used sony for long, then abandoned it for some time, now I am going back... ATM I have a s7 flat but really can't get used to it don't like samsung at all..
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Sounds interesting. About your point (6) and "fake the DRM keys." What is that about & why is it necessary for Sony phones?
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in all recent sony phones unfortunately they use to add some proprietary sw alghoritms for improving the camera performances or other visual things that once you unlock your device's BL get lost. and can't be retrieved anymore or at least it is not very easy (in certain devices you can backup and restore them later, in some others you can't). so basically often if it is not a good choice to unlock the bl to flash a custom rom or even to just root your phone as the camera performances would su*k afterwards.. also because of this development on sony phones is pretty small and slow...
let's see how it goes with this new model, if drm keys will still be there what we would lose exactly unlocking the BL.. hope nothing too important it would be a pity cause with treble support we could expect some more development!
I saw the xz2 compact couple days before first time in local store. was pretty impressed. It was the black one. Looked a bit like a small business phone. I was just to buy a Pixel 2 after i returned my galaxy s9 due to light leak. but i saw it and could play with it a bit and compare with Pixel 2. I was not so impressed by the pictures and thickness of xz2c in the web after announcement but after holding it i can say the design is pretty perfect for me. No sharp edges anymore that are hurting your palm while holding it. The IPS Display was bright, sharp and colorful without oversaturation. The blacks are almost at OLED Level in comparison to my old z3 compact. Whitebalance is perfect and if you dont like it you can change it a bit warmer or colder in the settings. Finally no burn-in danger like on amoled. In my hand it did not seem so thick like on the pictures in the web. IT was comfortable to hold. Fingerprint scanner is much better located on the xz2c than on xz2. its higher and easier to reach. Vibration motor is finally better and not like on xz1c or xc. it was like a crazy bee in the the past. now perfect. Camera is also definetely better. Not on s9 or pixel 2 level in lowlight but really a visible improvement. of course the s9 can get more light at night but for me its ok. but wish it would have dualpixel autofocus. frontcam has also no auto softskin filter applied like in the past. Additionally Dual sim and sd card. maybe some will be able to port the gcam portrait mode to this nice phone. speakers are louder. not perfect like S9 with dolby atmos but a very good solid performance. maybe also someone will be able to create a mod with atmos support. the buttons could be a bit harder. i fear that in your pocket they could be pressed unintentionally. additionally i hpefully also get the hear on headphones or a ps vr in germany. a nice bonus. Android 8 runs perfectly smooth and quick on the device. much quicker than on any galaxy phone.
Finally my long search has now an end. i have returned my Galaxy s9 due to repeating light leaks. xz2c should arrive next week after easter and my z3compact can finally go to well deserved retirement.
Does anyone know if you can change the navbar order still via system ui tuner? would like to have
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thanks for sharing your early impressions! sounds good! I too hope I found a nice compact phone again to stay with for some time rather than changing it continuously looking for the best solution :laugh: I also had a green z3c which was beautiful, but this time the green version seemed pretty dull on web pictures, so I went for the white/silver one...
but in this nice (ITA) review I saw yesterday, green seems much more vivid and nicer, more like my old z3c! don't know if this is the real green in the end, but if it is, I think it was better than the white :crying:
had you a chance to see from real also the green version? if so how it looked?
btw can't wait to get it.. hopefully in about 10 days maximum from now? :fingers-crossed:
EDIT: about the navbar order, really don't know, hope so cause I too prefer back button on the right! :silly:
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had you a chance to see from real also the green version? if so how it looked?
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there was only black. i was also thinking about the silver/white one. Couldnt see it live. But i rather like more black at front and white or silver back so i have choosen the black one
Getting my White Silver XZ2 Compact tomorrow! [emoji114]
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Getting my White Silver XZ2 Compact tomorrow! [emoji114]
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mine (same color) should be arriving today! :victory::fingers-crossed:
i have the black one lying next to me. its a bit heavy after long term use. wish it would be a bit less heavy. sometime the edges of the usb-c port are irritating my small finger. would be better if sony have moved the usb port to the top.
the bottom mic hole gets sometimes covered by the hand when holding in landscape. on the right side would be better for the hole.
otherwise its a really nice phone. like the frontcam
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i have the black one lying next to me. its a bit heavy after long term use. wish it would be a bit less heavy. sometime the edges of the usb-c port are irritating my small finger. would be better if sony have moved the usb port to the top.
the bottom mic hole gets sometimes covered by the hand when holding in landscape. on the right side would be better for the hole.
otherwise its a really nice phone. like the frontcam
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just got mine and first impressions are.. wow! so beautiful in white and silver color.. really much better than I expected, from the images I was little worried but looks very nice in my hand! doesn't feel too heavy or thick to me, even after applying tempered glass protection and a cheap transparent cover for the back.. and usage with one hand is perfect! so far so good.. will see if I see problems later one.
only down side for me so far is the curved screen, that makes the glass protection to raise a little on the sides :crying: I expected that because of the curved screen, but I bought a smaller tempered glass meant to cover only the flat part of the screen so I hoped it would have been better, but still looks not so nice.. just aesthetic of course but don't like it.. damned curved screens and who invented them!
boy, this thing is tiny after using a note 8!
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boy, this thing is tiny after using a note 8!
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what did you expect my friend, you went from the biggest of the flagships (note 8) to the smallest! for me, sizes of this xz2 are simply perfect :victory: hate all these new phones that can't be used with one hand
got mine today. Boy its small and beautiful. Got the black color so the front black bezels look narrower. though for the phone is this size, its thick and heavy. the S9 feels kkind of lighter than this. but all in all its great to use a mini phone after ages!
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got mine today. Boy its small and beautiful. Got the black color so the front black bezels look narrower. though for the phone is this size, its thick and heavy. the S9 feels kkind of lighter than this. but all in all its great to use a mini phone after ages!
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yeah the s9 feels more balanced since it has 5gramm less and its bigger so the feeling is a bit different. the xz2c feels like a car with very heavy motor in the middle or back.
wonder if sony have put some bricks inside to make it so heavy.
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what did you expect my friend, you went from the biggest of the flagships (note 8) to the smallest! for me, sizes of this xz2 are simply perfect :victory: hate all these new phones that can't be used with one hand
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i really like how much easier it will be to carry this phone around while wearing shorts; the note 8 is so large and heavy, my shorts wont stay up, and here is Arizona, you wear shorts every day!!
typing on the small keyboard is sort of a pain too, with my big fat fingers so it will take a while to get used to that too..great sound and great display, thats for sure!