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Thinking of getting the Sensation.

Was wondering if it was worth upgrading from a g2? What do you guys think about it? Let me have some pros and cons before I dish out my booze money I had saved lol.
[G2/HTC Vision]

no. just wait for the next one. the build quaility of sensation is really low.

henrik.dk said:
no. just wait for the next one. the build quaility of sensation is really low.
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agreed ,and henrik.dk was being nice because he could of said worse

henrik.dk said:
no. just wait for the next one. the build quaility of sensation is really low.
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dont get any worse than the build quality of the g2 ....get one

tigerz0202 said:
dont get any worse than the build quality of the g2 ....get one
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you also right thats why he should wait dont make sense to to dush out more money for another low build quality phone

Can you elaborate on poor build quality?
I bought yesterday and now you have me seriously worried.

phonegod said:
you also right thats why he should wait dont make sense to to dush out more money for another low build quality phone
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well i like mine ,ive got no probs with the build quality , i get a new phone every year so i only wait a year, my hd2 was the only phone i kept over a year, so its whatever your means are to keep up with the technology

mcpothead said:
Can you elaborate on poor build quality?
I bought yesterday and now you have me seriously worried.
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just read the forum post on sensation general,sensation Q&A theres alot of things that go on with the phone i for one like it not had some of the problems people have but this is my third sensation so ive had my bit of problems but on my third sensation everthing is good

phonegod said:
just read the forum post on sensation general,sensation Q&A theres alot of things that go on with the phone i for one like it not had some of the problems people have but this is my third sensation so ive had my bit of problems but on my third sensation everthing is good
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Thanks mate yea I saw the issues there they seem to be with certain handsets only.
I was just worried as the guy above made it sound like there was problem with all the handsets build quality

mcpothead said:
Thanks mate yea I saw the issues there they seem to be with certain handsets only.
I was just worried as the guy above made it sound like there was problem with all the handsets build quality
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sure no problem you will be ok just handle the phone with care the back piece is fragile very, try not to drop the back cover or you will loose your volume rocker or the power button and remember to slide it in and out the back cover head first thats what he meant about build quality i think

phonegod said:
sure no problem you will be ok just handle the phone with care the back piece is fragile very, try not to drop the back cover or you will loose your volume rocker or the power button and remember to slide it in and out the back cover head first thats what he meant about build quality i think
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Thanks again will take extra care when putting the battery in. Then the case and screen protector are going straight on

THIS IS THE WORST, MOST SHODDILY CONSTRUCTED PHONE THAT COULD EVER EXIST (Not)
The "build quality" of the phone is fine. There are a few problems associated with being early adopters, that a small fraction of people on XDA have. As far as I know, everyone with major issues had them resolved by returning their phone, in store and getting it replaced on the spot.
There are different displays one bye AUO and one made by Sharp, if you're having trouble and prefer either display you can go in-store and exchange it, after telling them the issues you're having with your phone.
Furthermore many of the so called "issues" with build quality are BS manufactured by XDA-ers. Like:
"If I turn of my screen and hold it at a 45 degree angle while shining a flashlight at it I can see a spec of dust under the screen, I'm really really worried ='("
or my personal favorite:
"When I press down on the buttons on the bottom of my screen I hear a slight creaking sound WTF HTC!?!?"
My personal second favorite is THE LAGGY SENSE ISSUE, which essentially goes like this :
"I saw a video on youtube and the HTC EVO 3D runs the HTC Sense homescreen carousel milliseconds faster and smoother than the HTC Sensation, WTF HTC !!! IS THIS WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR!?!?!?"
- I would like to note that this issue only came into existence after said video made its way to the forums and someone decided that it was an "issue" that a slightly newer phone, with slightly better hardware and a slightly more optimized ROM, ran sense 3.0 slightly better than our phones do at the moment.
- They aren't buttons... this is a touch screen phone and just because they look like buttons doesn't mean that they should be pressed like buttons.
- Wifi-Signal attenuation while holding the phone, in landscape, a particular way IS real, but only if you are far away from your router. ALL phones experience signal attenuation when all or parts of the radios are covered, our phones do not lost Cellular data signal when held in landscape as has been erroneously reported in some places.
Now I will tell you about my experiences with the phone. Both cameras perform poorly in low light conditions and other than that it's a beast of a phone. Absolutely phenomenal.Strangely enough, I don't hear many people talking about this, actual issue where the phone is not performing as one might realistically expect it to perform.
I got my device on launch day and haven't had one "issue" yet. I have seen and others have noted that some dust can get inside of the phone's case, near the headphone jack. I would consider this another NON-issue as it has not been shown to cause any issues. Furthermore dust frequently gets inside of electronics, that's why the good lord above invented compressed air. Some XDA-ers inhale it then try to find issues with their devices, I will use it to clean my phone in a few months, the same way that I do to my desktop PC or the way my little brother does to his gaming consoles.
It's a terrible phone if you only use it at 45 degree angles, in the dark, while shining a flashlight on it, with the display turned off as you press extra hard on the touchscreen (because YOU believe they are buttons to be pressed and not a screen to be touched), using your phone a mile away from your home router, in landscape while completely covering the top of the phone and watching videos of HTC EVO 3D's performing slightly better and getting jealous.
If you use your phone like a normal end-user or even a power user and NOT a beta tester in a laboratory setting then the phone is amazing.
I rest my case.

Thanks for the info guys. Much appreciated.
[G2/HTC Vision]

That was pretty good statement. +1
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BonesRed speaks the truth

Thanks for the info don't feel so nervous now

Thanks
BonesRed said:
The "build quality" of the phone is fine. There are a few problems associated with being early adopters, that a small fraction of people on XDA have. As far as I know, everyone with major issues had them resolved by returning their phone, in store and getting it replaced on the spot.
There are different displays one bye AUO and one made by Sharp, if you're having trouble and prefer either display you can go in-store and exchange it, after telling them the issues you're having with your phone.
Furthermore many of the so called "issues" with build quality are BS manufactured by XDA-ers. Like:
"If I turn of my screen and hold it at a 45 degree angle while shining a flashlight at it I can see a spec of dust under the screen, I'm really really worried ='("
or my personal favorite:
"When I press down on the buttons on the bottom of my screen I hear a slight creaking sound WTF HTC!?!?"
My personal second favorite is THE LAGGY SENSE ISSUE, which essentially goes like this :
"I saw a video on youtube and the HTC EVO 3D runs the HTC Sense homescreen carousel milliseconds faster and smoother than the HTC Sensation, WTF HTC !!! IS THIS WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR!?!?!?"
- I would like to note that this issue only came into existence after said video made its way to the forums and someone decided that it was an "issue" that a slightly newer phone, with slightly better hardware and a slightly more optimized ROM, ran sense 3.0 slightly better than our phones do at the moment.
- They aren't buttons... this is a touch screen phone and just because they look like buttons doesn't mean that they should be pressed like buttons.
- Wifi-Signal attenuation while holding the phone, in landscape, a particular way IS real, but only if you are far away from your router. ALL phones experience signal attenuation when all or parts of the radios are covered, our phones do not lost Cellular data signal when held in landscape as has been erroneously reported in some places.
Now I will tell you about my experiences with the phone. Both cameras perform poorly in low light conditions and other than that it's a beast of a phone. Absolutely phenomenal.Strangely enough, I don't hear many people talking about this, actual issue where the phone is not performing as one might realistically expect it to perform.
I got my device on launch day and haven't had one "issue" yet. I have seen and others have noted that some dust can get inside of the phone's case, near the headphone jack. I would consider this another NON-issue as it has not been shown to cause any issues. Furthermore dust frequently gets inside of electronics, that's why the good lord above invented compressed air. Some XDA-ers inhale it then try to find issues with their devices, I will use it to clean my phone in a few months, the same way that I do to my desktop PC or the way my little brother does to his gaming consoles.
It's a terrible phone if you only use it at 45 degree angles, in the dark, while shining a flashlight on it, with the display turned off as you press extra hard on the touchscreen (because YOU believe they are buttons to be pressed and not a screen to be touched), using your phone a mile away from your home router, in landscape while completely covering the top of the phone and watching videos of HTC EVO 3D's performing slightly better and getting jealous.
If you use your phone like a normal end-user or even a power user and NOT a beta tester in a laboratory setting then the phone is amazing.
I rest my case.
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thanks man

luis86dr said:
Was wondering if it was worth upgrading from a g2? What do you guys think about it? Let me have some pros and cons before I dish out my booze money I had saved lol.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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You should look into getting the mytouch 4g slide it comes out July 27th it has pretty much the same specs but you won't have to give up your physical keyboard and it can handle T-Mobile HSPA+
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I am not sure what these guys are referring to as having questionable build quality. If anything that would apply to the G2 and that was my last phone...well, right before the G2x horror.
You should be quite happy with the Sensation, if you have nothing against HTC Sense, as it is a very good device. Very good. I am certain it will be bested in some way by another high end Android phone in a few months, or weeks (there's always something new) but I am flat out thrilled to be using one right now.
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Having had HTC HERO and A HTD HD7 I was more of inclined to go for the SENSATION,
But after hovering around both threads decided for the GAlaxy s2 due to better back camera and front camera(2mp) and also for the fact that it came with bootloader unlocked
ANd I guess that was the best decision I made cause of one more reason being....
You can flash the latest firmwares on samsung Devices with ODIN without the NEED TO ROOT which I think is really cool.
I am already on a leaked version of 2.3.4 running beautifully with gtalk video working really great and have not even rooted my phone yet
Just my thoughts.........

Verizon S5 Thoughts/Feedback Thread

After having mine now for an hour and using it....the fingerprint scanner doesn't work as good as I would like it. My thumb is at an angle when holding the phone. I added it in using that angle, but it wants you to come straight down, which means I have to change the way i hold it to use it and have it register.
Verizon added so much bloat it's crazy!

the heart rate monitor. absolutely useless to over 90% of the consumers.... maybe even 95%

Seems they screwed up adding all the extra features that as mentioned here, a lot probably will not use. Finger print scanners are prone to screw up and the heart rate sensor seems frilly for most. The cost of this "customer will like it" fluff is a bigger device. The device IMO is now too big in relation to the display and awkward with one hand for most people. The S4 was near borderline already.
Samsung truly has a bloat and new feature fetish. They seem to think the combination appeals more to customers. For the majority it seems No, but the minority is perhaps Yes. Catch is everyone gets stuck with a bigger, bloat ridden device- like it or not if want the S5.
The funny thing is the S5 now has near the same overall size of my S4 with a bigger battery.
M8 is also too big IMO, so the S5 is not alone in this regard.

I actually found the chrome trim be terrible looking, and despite my plans not to use a case, had to get a thin black bumper to cover it. There is no doubt the M8 looks better, and is very comfortable to hold. I had to have the S5 because the screen just seemed much better, and part of it isn't wasted by the nav bar like on the M8.
I haven't had enough time to play with all of the features yet, however the screen has been nothing but impressive so far. I don't like the new settings so far, but that's probably because I'm just not used to it.
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M8 is also too big IMO, so the S5 is not alone in this regard.
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My biggest beef with the M8 was that the speakers make the phone so much bigger than it needs to be. If you hold the S5 and the M8 next to eachother there is about half an inch of wasted space, especially if you factor in the navbar. For people that use the speakers, it might be worth it, but I would not.

turbosrrgood said:
I actually found the chrome trim be terrible looking, and despite my plans not to use a case, had to get a thin black bumper to cover it. There is no doubt the M8 looks better, and is very comfortable to hold. I had to have the S5 because the screen just seemed much better, and part of it isn't wasted by the nav bar like on the M8.
I haven't had enough time to play with all of the features yet, however the screen has been nothing but impressive so far. I don't like the new settings so far, but that's probably because I'm just not used to it.
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My biggest beef with the M8 was that the speakers make the phone so much bigger than it needs to be. If you hold the S5 and the M8 next to eachother there is about half an inch of wasted space, especially if you factor in the navbar. For people that use the speakers, it might be worth it, but I would not.
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How is the screen in direct sunlight? I saw a review comparing it with others at max brightness which showed not much improvement. I think only Auto-Brightness will really max out the screen's brightness and I'm not sure if they manually maxed it out or it was it on auto.
And are you using it on the default mode or did you change it to cinematic?

i love the fingerprint scanner..works perfectly for my thumb for 1 handed use..
only thing i'm not liking right now is it seems to have that same body shift issue my white S3 had, that my S4 didn't..like as if the battery isn't big enough for the cavity, so it moves and makes the body feel like its twisting so it makes some lil snappy creak noises. kinda sucks, but oh well. maybe the battery just isn't big enough for the spot,w ho knows.

raichur0xx0rz said:
How is the screen in direct sunlight? I saw a review comparing it with others at max brightness which showed not much improvement. I think only Auto-Brightness will really max out the screen's brightness and I'm not sure if they manually maxed it out or it was it on auto.
And are you using it on the default mode or did you change it to cinematic?
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Granted I only spent about 5 minutes with it outside so far, but the difference was HUGE from my S3 (which I really struggled with in the sun). I did not mess with any display settings yet, so it was all default. I got it on lunch and I'm working, so I've only been able to play with it here and there.
The display continues to be impressive, which is the main reason I wanted it. I can't speak to the difference between the s4-5, but between the 3 and 5 its night and day.

I'm excited to get it home and drop in a sink of water.

I like the phone. Definitely has a lot of features that I won't use but that's a Galaxy device. If we're on XDA, we know what we're getting into. The bigger size to achieve the IP67 certification is somewhat annoying but again, nothing unexpected and a nice feature. One that I'm sure will save more than a few people. So, despite the usually Galaxy "extras", I'm enjoying it. I will have to get a replacement as there is a permanent " smudge " on the display. Almost as if there's a coating for the IP67 certification and that coating wasn't applied correctly. No biggie. As long as VZW cooperates lol.
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Not going to lie I hate this phone, they dropped the ball in gs5, I am not going to use it until the gracious devs get root and unlocked bootloader
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damn..i just took some outdoors pics and they came out terrible. like, awful.
full light shots outdoors in the sun, blacks were coming out smudgy and blotchy and not good at all..i'm going to be super pissed if this camera turns out to be worse than my G2..that's the whole damn reason why i got this phone.

jayochs said:
damn..i just took some outdoors pics and they came out terrible. like, awful.
full light shots outdoors in the sun, blacks were coming out smudgy and blotchy and not good at all..i'm going to be super pissed if this camera turns out to be worse than my G2..that's the whole damn reason why i got this phone.
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Let's see these pics. No way worse than G2.

Not liking the recent apps button. Came from an s3 and I'm used to tapping for the menu to come up. Now it's needs a long press. If I could just swap the long and short press functions I would pretty happy. Only had it since 10am.
Screen is definitely better than the s3. Using it to navigate on the dash on a bright sunny made it very apparent. S3 looked dark and hard to see, the s5 looked way better and easy to see.
The chrome around this all black is not to my taste, but I'm hoping my new uag case will cover it.

jayochs said:
damn..i just took some outdoors pics and they came out terrible. like, awful.
full light shots outdoors in the sun, blacks were coming out smudgy and blotchy and not good at all..i'm going to be super pissed if this camera turns out to be worse than my G2..that's the whole damn reason why i got this phone.
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You might find this interesting. I've spent the afternoon confirming these results.
http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/sm...rs.com&subid=cfcd208495d565ef66e7dff9f98764da
Edit: that is a huge link!
cRookeD Nexus 5

Crooke356 said:
You might find this interesting. I've spent the afternoon confirming these results.
http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/sm...rs.com&subid=cfcd208495d565ef66e7dff9f98764da
Edit: that is a huge link!
cRookeD Nexus 5
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Lol yeah its huge. Lol.
So pretty much great camera with some bad moments?
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I just took this in my garage...cam is fine for me.

greatnesstx said:
Not going to lie I hate this phone, they dropped the ball in gs5, I am not going to use it until the gracious devs get root and unlocked bootloader
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If you hate it....not sure what you were expecting over what you saw on the S4.

jagrave said:
Lol yeah its huge. Lol.
So pretty much great camera with some bad moments?
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Yea. From all the devices I've ever owned, and it's a lot, that seems to be the case. Except for iPhone. I've never owned one but it's apparently perfect
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I just dropped mine a sink full of water. Still kicking. I recorded the drop.

I just realized that the screen lights up every time I get a text. Stays on for a few secs, but I cannot change that.
Light Manager works......w/out root.

This phone has been available to purchase for one month. Give your thoughts!

I am not disappointed in my purchase. And the development is already extraordinary.
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Lovin every second spent with this device. No complaints on my end.
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Best phone on Verizon right now unless you're a cell phone photographer.
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Best phone I've had in years
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I like it a lot. Not the slightest bit of stuttering yet. I've yet to root because I don't need it yet and I'd like my warranty to last at least a few months. Sadly on stock my ps3 controller OTG doesn't work. Might sound pity but that was a huge letdown.
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I traded my lockeddown galaxy s4 and all its accessories for this phone as soon s-off had been achieved. lucky me that a friend was adding a new line but wanted the s4 and has zero intentions of doing any modifications to the the phone. I am very impressed with this phone my only irritation is that if I have one of my pics set as wallpaper after a restart it's totally zoomed in/resized. this isn't egregious enough for me to actually try and fix though... not that it stays long anyway being flash happy lol.

I am happy with mine. I have a few problems but they are relatively minor.
1. Speaker grills. Make sure you get one that the grills are flush with the glass if you are going to use a screen protector that goes around the speakers.
2. Why in the hell would HTC only put a red/green LED notification light on it???? That is plain stupid.

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I like it a lot. Not the slightest bit of stuttering yet. I've yet to root because I don't need it yet and I'd like my warranty to last at least a few months. Sadly on stock my ps3 controller OTG doesn't work. Might sound pity but that was a huge letdown.
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If you have an XBox 360 controller, they supposedly work via OTG also. I only have a wireless controller (which didn't come with a USB charger cable, or else I lost it) so I can't test it.
As far as the M8....I love it. Development is great, and the M8 itself is a fantastic device. I just wish the radios were a bit stronger. I have frequent issues at my gym with the reception cutting out, which apparently the phone doesn't deal with very well...I have to toggle airplane mode to get data going again, which happens usually 2-3 times during a workout. However, the reception inside my gym is horrible anyway (and it's only slightly better out in the parking lot. usually 1-2 bars, max).
Also, I do feel bad about hiding this beautiful phone inside of a case, but the damn thing is just too slippery...

Terrific phone, best available right now for sure. For a long time I completely undervalued a great stock software experience thinking CM would provide a better experience than, say, touchwiz. I was very wrong. CM on the GS3 was mostly stable, but that's just it... Mostly. It never got to the point of stability that CM7 enjoyed with Gingerbread. Things are different now.
HTC by far has the best stock experience of any manufacturer skin available. I find this experience to be equal to AOSP in my tastes. They did an elegant job.
Quality control/build quality is something I've learned a lot about by having this phone. I don't think I'm going to pit a metal chassis as highly as I did when deciding to go with this phone.
I had to return two of them due to minor imperfections and decided to settle with this one which over time is seeming to degrade dramatically.
- One of the plastic strips on the back is sunken in a bit and yields sharp edges when you run your fingers across it. It also looks bad from certain angles.
- My camera does not sit evenly in its hole. Rather, it's slightly tilted by 5-10 degrees. As far as I can tell this does not affect picture quality but again, feels unpleasant when your finger glides across the camera hole which you will occasionally.
- Speaking about fingers on camera, you'll be wiping it down a bit to clear the smudges. It's indented nature will make it harder to fully clean. Because of this, its easy to scratch the lens. I'm looking into camera lens protectors now.
- As mentioned, the speaker grills are problematic. Mine are mostly flush with the screen, but again, it's that MOSTLY again. On top of that, my bottom grill seems to have minor warping/a wavy surface. Light reflections emphasize this flaw but it's probably the least of my worries.
It's funny how I thought I was getting this phone for it's superior materials and build and ended up feeling unfulfilled in that aspect but being fully enamored with the software. Most of my build flaws are either diminished or not noticeable covered by a case, which I always use a little protection. Because of this, plastic is fine for me in the future if it means more consistent quality and longevity. I don't feel the superior materials when I'm using a case anyway.
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thunderbls said:
I traded my lockeddown galaxy s4 and all its accessories for this phone as soon s-off had been achieved. lucky me that a friend was adding a new line but wanted the s4 and has zero intentions of doing any modifications to the the phone. I am very impressed with this phone my only irritation is that if I have one of my pics set as wallpaper after a restart it's totally zoomed in/resized. this isn't egregious enough for me to actually try and fix though... not that it stays long anyway being flash happy lol.
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Damn you got so lucky!
I had to sell Note 3 (locked) to get this phone. I also had a One Max in between.
85gallon said:
I am happy with mine. I have a few problems but they are relatively minor.
1. Speaker grills. Make sure you get one that the grills are flush with the glass if you are going to use a screen protector that goes around the speakers.
2. Why in the hell would HTC only put a red/green LED notification light on it???? That is plain stupid.
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1. This is true. My first and second HTC One M7 had bad problems with unevenness.
2. Thats the best part about it. I love it! The HTC One M7 the light was barely noticeable. Now I can see it!
Div033 said:
Terrific phone, best available right now for sure. For a long time I completely undervalued a great stock software experience thinking CM would provide a better experience than, say, touchwiz. I was very wrong. CM on the GS3 was mostly stable, but that's just it... Mostly. It never got to the point of stability that CM7 enjoyed with Gingerbread. Things are different now.
HTC by far has the best stock experience of any manufacturer skin available. I find this experience to be equal to AOSP in my tastes. They did an elegant job.
Quality control/build quality is something I've learned a lot about by having this phone. I don't think I'm going to pit a metal chassis as highly as I did when deciding to go with this phone.
I had to return two of them due to minor imperfections and decided to settle with this one which over time is seeming to degrade dramatically.
- One of the plastic strips on the back is sunken in a bit and yields sharp edges when you run your fingers across it. It also looks bad from certain angles.
- My camera does not sit evenly in its hole. Rather, it's slightly tilted by 5-10 degrees. As far as I can tell this does not affect picture quality but again, feels unpleasant when your finger glides across the camera hole which you will occasionally.
- Speaking about fingers on camera, you'll be wiping it down a bit to clear the smudges. It's indented nature will make it harder to fully clean. Because of this, its easy to scratch the lens. I'm looking into camera lens protectors now.
- As mentioned, the speaker grills are problematic. Mine are mostly flush with the screen, but again, it's that MOSTLY again. On top of that, my bottom grill seems to have minor warping/a wavy surface. Light reflections emphasize this flaw but it's probably the least of my worries.
It's funny how I thought I was getting this phone for it's superior materials and build and ended up feeling unfulfilled in that aspect but being fully enamored with the software. Most of my build flaws are either diminished or not noticeable covered by a case, which I always use a little protection. Because of this, plastic is fine for me in the future if it means more consistent quality and longevity. I don't feel the superior materials when I'm using a case anyway.
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-Plastic Strips: Wow, that does blow. After you mentioned that I tested mine to see if they were like yours. Not at all. Completely smooth. You cannot detect a variance in height variance. Even while running my fingernail over them.
- Camera fit: I inspected mine; Perfect symmetry.
- Speaker grills. I know this issue well because of M7. I got lucky on this one because that offset drove me insane.
TBH: with all the little tweaks your phone has... It sounds like it has been dropped or twisted. Yes it could be bad build quality as well but I would really hate to think that.
is there any way you can exchange yours? Mine is near perfect, its sad to see yours is so... crappy.

scrosler said:
-Plastic Strips: Wow, that does blow. After you mentioned that I tested mine to see if they were like yours. Not at all. Completely smooth. You cannot detect a variance in hight however, as suspected the material feels different but not unexpected
- Camera fit: I inspected mine as well. Perfect symmetry.
- Speaker grills. I know this issue well because of M7. I got lucky on this one because that offset drove me insane.
TBH: with all the little tweaks your phone has... It sounds like it has been dropped or twisted. Yes it could be bad build quality as well but I would really hate to think that.
is there any way you can exchange yours? Mine is near perfect, its sad to see yours is so... crappy.
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Yeah I just got unlucky but oh well I'll live. The first time it was a tiny crack in the corner, the second time was a bump on the bottom speaker grill and was tired of replacing so I decided to just live with the third. I feel like it's punishment for being so picky or something lol
I'm past the 14 day return window but even if I wasn't I was tired of bothering the people at the Verizon store. It's a third party one and they were really nice and helped me keep my unlimited data, so I felt like I was being a hassle. It's also my fault for not examining it close enough to notice the crooked camera, even when they were insisting that I deeply inspect it before going with it.
No drops at all either. I've had it in a case practically since I got it as well. Hell maybe it's the case's fault (for the plastic bands, at least). Sounds like you got lucky, I figure it's just my turn to have some quirks as I've been pretty lucky with tech up to this point. Honestly I'm probably making them sound a lot worse than they actually are too.
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scrosler said:
2. Thats the best part about it. I love it! The HTC One M7 the light was barely noticeable. Now I can see it!
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Well I am having that problem with this phone. It is barely noticeable. But I am coming from a Moto RAZR MAXX with a large LED that is capable of multiple colors. I had lightflow set to use blue/white mostly. Some yellow. I guess the main reason I am *****ing is because I am red/green color blind. I can't tell the difference in the colors they offer (red/green)
I don't expect special treatment, but WHY do companies CONTINUE to offer colors that are not visible/distinguishable by about 10% of the population? Why not just use easily distinguishable colors? Like Blue and Yellow.
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I'm happy with mine. I don't see any of the flaws mentioned here or anywhere else for that matter. Camera, speaker grills, screen, they are all as they should be. As far as I can see anyway. I love this phone.
That said, I do have one and only one beef about it. The notification LED. No, not that it's not bright enough or the colors available. It's that it only stays on for 5 minutes or so. I'll admit I haven't spent a whole bunch of time searching for an answer but I've spent enough and have yet to come up with a way to make it stay on until I've looked at whatever it is it's notifying me about. Sounds like it's been this way a bit for HTC for a while though. This is my first HTC phone and I'm used to picking up the phone and seeing that light flash. Regardless of how long ago it's been since I've received a call, text or whatever. I'd much prefer to be able to just glance at the phone and see if anything's happening as opposed to having to pick it up and turn on the screen.
I suppose they do it for battery savings. Don't know. But, I find it hard to believe that turning that little diode off after 5 minutes saves anything worth saving. It's not like it's going to be 2 days before I look at it. That said, I can't blame it on the phone. It's HTC's software that comes into play there.
Anyway, other than that, I'm a happy camper.

Yes, yes I did.. get lucky with obtaining this phone. ???

Div033 said:
Yeah I just got unlucky but oh well I'll live. The first time it was a tiny crack in the corner, the second time was a bump on the bottom speaker grill and was tired of replacing so I decided to just live with the third. I feel like it's punishment for being so picky or something lol
I'm past the 14 day return window but even if I wasn't I was tired of bothering the people at the Verizon store. It's a third party one and they were really nice and helped me keep my unlimited data, so I felt like I was being a hassle. It's also my fault for not examining it close enough to notice the crooked camera, even when they were insisting that I deeply inspect it before going with it.
No drops at all either. I've had it in a case practically since I got it as well. Hell maybe it's the case's fault (for the plastic bands, at least). Sounds like you got lucky, I figure it's just my turn to have some quirks as I've been pretty lucky with tech up to this point. Honestly I'm probably making them sound a lot worse than they actually are too.
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Just a follow up to this and a warning to any others out there, I managed to reset my camera lens to a very level angle (maybe 0.5-1 degrees off still) by pressing gently but firmly down on the raised side.
I think what may have happened is I pressed down a little too hard when cleaning the lens, causing it to become uneven. So be gentle when you wipe down your camera lens!
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Definitely happy with my purchased of the M8. 1 flaw we all kno Wat that is but besides that I pleased . Not one lag unlock boot loaders s-off can't get no better. And 6 sense smooth no delays waiting for apps to open.
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Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
Sent from my HTC one m8

xmoox said:
Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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If you get a GS5, make sure you get one with a good camera. They are failing miserably. LOL
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/samsung-to-replace-galaxy-s5-phones-affected-by-faulty-84127046184.html

xmoox said:
Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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There was recently a leaked photo of a Verizon Xperia Z2. I'd sooner get a Z2 than a GS5.
I agree with many of your points though I just don't think anyone should have to deal with the horror that is Touchwiz.
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Of course, the One (M8) isn't a phone that's going to be to everyone's tastes. It's amazing product, the camera is fantastic and the battery has improved a bit and also with its with it's stunning design, this with the price. Everything I'm looking for a smartphone, its already here! Since I bought my M8, I did embrace and love it since then.

Opinions on the s5

Hey all, I went from the gs3 to the HTC m8 and I have a guy that may want to trade me for his gs5. I'm seriously thinking about it but wanted to get a little input from you guys. How satisfied are you with the phone? I know every device has ups and downs, just trying to make an informed decision here.

I am pretty satisfied as you said every device has its ups and downs I have owned both the m8 and the s5 the only thing i miss about the M8 is the appearance as far as looks go the m8 takes the cake. The s5 definitely feels snappier and faster browsing around the phone opening apps etc it also seems to charge quicker. The fingerprint reader is pretty decent just make sure you register your thumb sideways so its more useful to you and you dont have to re-position your hand to use it. Overall i believe the S5 is a better phone and no worries as far as Roms etc it should get there soon the M8 had a headstart!

That's good. I think I may make the trade if the other guy is still interested. We are suppose to talk later.

metalfan78 said:
Hey all, I went from the gs3 to the HTC m8 and I have a guy that may want to trade me for his gs5. I'm seriously thinking about it but wanted to get a little input from you guys. How satisfied are you with the phone? I know every device has ups and downs, just trying to make an informed decision here.
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Not sure if you want some more input but in order to help I would have to ask the question.....what made you choose the M8 over the S5 initially? The answer I think will help to provide clues as to what your usage consists of.

I had quite a few htc phones before I got the gs3 and wanted to give them another shot. I like sense, I like the front speakers, the 32 gb storage, and the form factor. It's a nice looking, nice sounding phone. I really just wanted to switch it up a bit. Oh, and I wasn't too fond of Knox.

metalfan78 said:
I had quite a few htc phones before I got the gs3 and wanted to give them another shot. I like sense, I like the front speakers, the 32 gb storage, and the form factor. It's a nice looking, nice sounding phone. I really just wanted to switch it up a bit. Oh, and I wasn't too fond of Knox.
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I think one of the biggest drawbacks of the S5 is the 16gb internal. Wouldn't be a big deal if KK didn't keep app data from being moved over to the extSD. I know there are options such as Foldermount to get things moved but still would be nice to have more storage. Coming from the S3 to S4 to S5 I do like the newer TW layout better on the S5 and it has more options to customize. Never used the M8 so I can't give any personal comparisons unfortunately.

This is a very nice device. The dual WiFi antennas make for reasonable WiFi link speeds. USB 3.0 charges really fast and transfers data very fast. Screen is excellent and bright in daylight and dim at night which the s3 was not good at. Processor is extremely fast. My only small complaints are home button waking up phone in my pocket and menu button is now recent apps. Phone is not slippery in hand unlike the s3. Camera is excellent and fast. I'm not disappointed at all and I was not initially going to upgrade but I'm glad I did.
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Hey look what the cat dragged in I'm browsing this forum for the same reason. Much less activity than I hoped.
I have the M8 but 3G died on it after 3 weeks. I bought a backup that I can still return.
The replacement just came in and is sealed new.
So I can sell a factory sealed M8 and return the other and not be out much $$$.
So it's an opportunity to change my mind.
Pro's and Con's I see
As much as folks complain about the low Pixel Count on the M8 Camera it takes quite good pictures even in tough conditions.
Just read a thread of a lot of folks getting blurring pictures on the S5. That's EXACTLY what you get when pixels are too small. You need more light.
I use the camera lot for work and recording things. Like if I'm working on say fixing our Dryer I take pictures of the Model number and the broken part.
I do stuff like that all the time. I can get extremely close with the M8 camera. It's always in focus. And often works with or without flash even in less light.
I like the USB 3.0 on S5
Is USB MTP or Mass Storage on the S5. M8 does both.
I have not compared Speakers but I have to assume the M8 speakers are better.
And the new "Harman Kardon" ROM really does enhance the sound quite a bit. I was shocked to be honest.
There is something fragile in the M8 and several owners have had the same issue of losing 3G (after a few weeks). I'm worried it will happen again.
I believe all other Network issues are either local Sprint towers or Spark related issues and the S5 won't solve those.
Rumor has it Samsung's have slightly better reception. I can get 4G at the end of my driveway with the M8 and 1/2 a block away at work.
1% more Gain and I'd have 4G at work and home which would be a bonus.
I do like Blinkfeed on HTC. And I do like Sense.
The M8 is pretty heavy compared to S5. I wouldn't mind losing a few ounces.
There is a video on youtube showing an M8 running under water for like 30 minutes. But the question is, does it still run NOW.
You do have to replace the USB cover on the S5 to keep it waterproof and the cover is flimsy.

jbadboy2007 said:
This is a very nice device. The dual WiFi antennas make for reasonable WiFi link speeds. USB 3.0 charges really fast and transfers data very fast. Screen is excellent and bright in daylight and dim at night which the s3 was not good at. Processor is extremely fast. My only small complaints are home button waking up phone in my pocket and menu button is now recent apps. Phone is not slippery in hand unlike the s3. Camera is excellent and fast. I'm not disappointed at all and I was not initially going to upgrade but I'm glad I did.
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Check out Wanam Xposed to turn off "Wake device with Home button"
The battery cover of the black S5 is a little grippier than the white one as it was on the Note 3's.

mswlogo said:
Hey look what the cat dragged in I'm browsing this forum for the same reason. Much less activity than I hoped.
I have the M8 but 3G died on it after 3 weeks. I bought a backup that I can still return.
The replacement just came in and is sealed new.
So I can sell a factory sealed M8 and return the other and not be out much $$$.
So it's an opportunity to change my mind.
Pro's and Con's I see
As much as folks complain about the low Pixel Count on the M8 Camera it takes quite good pictures even in tough conditions.
Just read a thread of a lot of folks getting blurring pictures on the S5. That's EXACTLY what you get when pixels are too small. You need more light.
I use the camera lot for work and recording things. Like if I'm working on say fixing our Dryer I take pictures of the Model number and the broken part.
I do stuff like that all the time. I can get extremely close with the M8 camera. It's always in focus. And often works with or without flash even in less light.
I like the USB 3.0 on S5
Is USB MTP or Mass Storage on the S5. M8 does both.
I have not compared Speakers but I have to assume the M8 speakers are better.
And the new "Harman Kardon" ROM really does enhance the sound quite a bit. I was shocked to be honest.
There is something fragile in the M8 and several owners have had the same issue of losing 3G (after a few weeks). I'm worried it will happen again.
I believe all other Network issues are either local Sprint towers or Spark related issues and the S5 won't solve those.
Rumor has it Samsung's have slightly better reception. I can get 4G at the end of my driveway with the M8 and 1/2 a block away at work.
1% more Gain and I'd have 4G at work and home which would be a bonus.
I do like Blinkfeed on HTC. And I do like Sense.
The M8 is pretty heavy compared to S5. I wouldn't mind losing a few ounces.
There is a video on youtube showing an M8 running under water for like 30 minutes. But the question is, does it still run NOW.
You do have to replace the USB cover on the S5 to keep it waterproof and the cover is flimsy.
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The blurriness from the camera is most likely coming from a protective film that you can't see but it is there and once you remove it the pics are outstanding
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jbadboy2007 said:
The blurriness from the camera is most likely coming from a protective film that you can't see but it is there and once you remove it the pics are outstanding
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I have to disagree. The film that is on the camera only goes around the lens. It does not cover the lens. Also, I took probably 40-50 pics in the same environment and about 90% were blurry but a few were not. If it was the film 100% would be blurry. There is a thread about the blurry pictures and the consensus is that the image stabilization setting is the cause for the blurriness. I have not disabled and tried it yet but others are saying that fixes the issue.
mswlogo said:
Hey look what the cat dragged in I'm browsing this forum for the same reason. Much less activity than I hoped.
I have the M8 but 3G died on it after 3 weeks. I bought a backup that I can still return.
The replacement just came in and is sealed new.
So I can sell a factory sealed M8 and return the other and not be out much $$$.
So it's an opportunity to change my mind.
Pro's and Con's I see
As much as folks complain about the low Pixel Count on the M8 Camera it takes quite good pictures even in tough conditions.
Just read a thread of a lot of folks getting blurring pictures on the S5. That's EXACTLY what you get when pixels are too small. You need more light.
I use the camera lot for work and recording things. Like if I'm working on say fixing our Dryer I take pictures of the Model number and the broken part.
I do stuff like that all the time. I can get extremely close with the M8 camera. It's always in focus. And often works with or without flash even in less light.
I like the USB 3.0 on S5
Is USB MTP or Mass Storage on the S5. M8 does both.
I have not compared Speakers but I have to assume the M8 speakers are better.
And the new "Harman Kardon" ROM really does enhance the sound quite a bit. I was shocked to be honest.
There is something fragile in the M8 and several owners have had the same issue of losing 3G (after a few weeks). I'm worried it will happen again.
I believe all other Network issues are either local Sprint towers or Spark related issues and the S5 won't solve those.
Rumor has it Samsung's have slightly better reception. I can get 4G at the end of my driveway with the M8 and 1/2 a block away at work.
1% more Gain and I'd have 4G at work and home which would be a bonus.
I do like Blinkfeed on HTC. And I do like Sense.
The M8 is pretty heavy compared to S5. I wouldn't mind losing a few ounces.
There is a video on youtube showing an M8 running under water for like 30 minutes. But the question is, does it still run NOW.
You do have to replace the USB cover on the S5 to keep it waterproof and the cover is flimsy.
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Speakers on the M8 will be much better than the S5. Reception to me seems a bit more flaky than the S4 but I think this is TriBand related. Yes, the cover has to be on to keep it water resistant. How else would it be sealed up? The cover is not "flimsy" in my opinion. It is designed just as it should be. However, I also don't buy into the metal body being superior to plastic like it seems most peeps are but that is a whole other discussion.
Anyways, I think you have to decide what features are more important to you to make your decision. Both devices have advantages over the other.

CCallahan said:
I have to disagree. The film that is on the camera only goes around the lens. It does not cover the lens. Also, I took probably 40-50 pics in the same environment and about 90% were blurry but a few were not. If it was the film 100% would be blurry. There is a thread about the blurry pictures and the consensus is that the image stabilization setting is the cause for the blurriness. I have not disabled and tried it yet but others are saying that fixes the issue.
Speakers on the M8 will be much better than the S5. Reception to me seems a bit more flaky than the S4 but I think this is TriBand related. Yes, the cover has to be on to keep it water resistant. How else would it be sealed up? The cover is not "flimsy" in my opinion. It is designed just as it should be. However, I also don't buy into the metal body being superior to plastic like it seems most peeps are but that is a whole other discussion.
Anyways, I think you have to decide what features are more important to you to make your decision. Both devices have advantages over the other.
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If you take you fingernail and scrape in the corner against the lens the film will come off. Like I said you can not see it there is no tab indicating it's there. It was that same thread that some one else found the protective film.
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Had the HTC m8 for about a month, and this phone had problems going from a cell tower thats been updated with Sprint stupid spark, to a tower that was either LTE or 3G, and I was dropping calls in places that I never drop calls, I read on a lot of sprint forums that other people around the country was having similar problems. I exchange my phone for another m8, and the problems contiune, Sprint gave me the hardest time with this problem, sprint even told me I may have to wait for sprint to update certain towers in my area, Like sprint has the best record of being prompt ! So I had to raise holy hell to even make them condsider that the stories in the forums about the phone software not being optimized in he first shipments of the m8 not cooperating with their towers, finally I was able to switch to SGS5, haven't had a problems since switching. I really,reallly wanted the M8 over the S5, but came back to Sammy.

Wait, you got them to give you a gs5? Were you within your 14 days?

Only issue I have is not with the phone itself but with sprint spark and how data turns off when a call comes in kind of a pain when your downloading from lte or surfing the web with a Bluetooth in.
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sml2004 said:
Only issue I have is not with the phone itself but with sprint spark and how data turns off when a call comes in kind of a pain when your downloading from lte or surfing the web with a Bluetooth in.
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Actually that is the phones fault no svdo. Simultaneous voice and data. Calls and WiFi data work though.
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CCallahan said:
I have to disagree. The film that is on the camera only goes around the lens. It does not cover the lens. Also, I took probably 40-50 pics in the same environment and about 90% were blurry but a few were not. If it was the film 100% would be blurry. There is a thread about the blurry pictures and the consensus is that the image stabilization setting is the cause for the blurriness. I have not disabled and tried it yet but others are saying that fixes the issue.
Speakers on the M8 will be much better than the S5. Reception to me seems a bit more flaky than the S4 but I think this is TriBand related. Yes, the cover has to be on to keep it water resistant. How else would it be sealed up? The cover is not "flimsy" in my opinion. It is designed just as it should be. However, I also don't buy into the metal body being superior to plastic like it seems most peeps are but that is a whole other discussion.
Anyways, I think you have to decide what features are more important to you to make your decision. Both devices have advantages over the other.
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My daughter has an S5 and she says it's flimsy. Also seen it mentioned in a pretty good review comparing M8 vs S5. Same review mentioned camera being slow on the S5 and only adequate in day light.
One test folks can try is compare your daylight outdoor photos with indoor/evening photos. Bet ya the outdoor ones are not blurry.
Plastic can be done right. But the S5 looks like a toy phone with that double rib plastic chrome. I like the textured back.
Levono is supposed to start making phones soon. Perhaps we'll see a Carbon Fiber one soon. That would be a great material.
I put E-Grip on the back of my M8 to make it not so slippery. I have on all my phones. But it's especially needed on the M8.
I think an ever so slightly larger M7 would have been better.

Pixel 5 Initial review

Wanted to post my feedback about the Pixel 5. I have read plenty of reviews, but wanted to give my opinion as a regular customer. I have owned every Pixel device since the OG. I currently have the 5 and the 4XL and wanted to give my opinion about the two.
Size- Coming from the 4XL the 5 feels like a toy. Its much lighter weight and smaller physically. I will have to get used to it and I think it will be a positive thing. The body/screen ratio is much better than the 4XL. Yes the 5 is smaller but the actual screen isn't too much smaller. The 4XL is much heavier in the hand, I forgot my Pixel 5 was in my pocket a few times because its lighter weight.
Built materials- I love the Pixel 5 for what they did with the recycled aluminum. My 4XL was very slippery and a fingerprint magnet by comparison. The 5 is all around superior in my opinion.
Fingerprint sensor- I am honestly extremely excited that Google brought this back. They never should have removed it for Face unlock. Face unlock didnt work vey well and with a lot of people wearing face masks its a pain. The fingerprint sensor feels like my Pixel 2XL did. Extremely fast and accurate and I love that I can use it to access the pull down menu. One of the primary reasons I got this phone.
Screen- The 5 has a brighter(nits) screen over the 4XL. This can be a good thing in sunlight outdoors. At 50% or above, I feel that the colors are more washed out on the 5 compared to my 4XL however. I have both set in Adaptive. I don't mind the hole punch.
5G/Signal- I don't have it in my area. I didn't yet get a "new" SIM card to see if it makes a difference. I have the same signal strength as my 4XL.
Camera- I think we can assume its the same as the Pixel 4. I don't really care for the wide angle and prefer the 2x optical zoom, but this is just a personal thing with I take photos of the kids.
Performance- I use this phone for work(call and emails) and a lot of photos. I do not game on a phone. To me I can tell slightly on start up that its slower than my 4XL and that the photos seem to take slightly longer to process. I don't think its an issue at all though. The phone is very fluid and fast still.
Battery- For once I think Google figured it out. Between the processor and the large battery, I can tell this phone will be significantly better than my 4XL that suffered drain issues like many.
Speaker quality- This is my largest gripe by far. Relative to my 4XL the speakers in the 5 are terrible, I don't care how anyone tried to spin it. I adjusted the earpiece to be louder in Accessibility to help balance them out, which did help for balance. Side by side there is a huge difference in mid range and bass compared to the 4XL. The 5 sounds hollow and tinny especially at higher volumes.
Earpiece calls- Similar to above this is a really big miss having the speaker under the screen. It makes people sound like they are talking in a can. At high call volumes the earpiece quality sounds terrible. I usually have to adjust the volume down at least 2 clicks from max volume just so I don't get frustrated with the phone.
Squeeze for Assistant- Just noticed that the Pixel 5 does not have the squeeze for Google assistant. Not a big deal to me, but was used to it on the 4XL.
Overall I would say that the Pixel 5 is a side-grade instead of an upgrade of my 4XL. There are a lot of concessions Google took with this phone, which helps the cost. I can live with all of them, but the speaker and earpiece is a big miss for me. I am going to use the phone for a few days to determine if I am going to keep it. I am leaning toward yes, but the earpiece quality alone is a big deal to me since I use it for work. Typically 5+ hours on the phone daily and the quality drives me nuts.
If there is anything specific you want to know just ask and I can comment or test.

What color do you have?
Is there a gap btwn screen and body by the FFC?
Are you having any charging issues? (Battery displays wrong %)
What is your SOT after first cycle?
What camera mode has the most delay in processing? What resolution?
Do you notice any dust or stuff gathering on body of device where it meets screen?
What country are you in?
Is this enough questions? Lol

TokedUp said:
What color do you have?
Is there a gap btwn screen and body by the FFC?
Are you having any charging issues? (Battery displays wrong %)
What is your SOT after first cycle?
What camera mode has the most delay in processing? What resolution?
Do you notice any dust or stuff gathering on body of device where it meets screen?
What country are you in?
Is this enough questions? Lol
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Black
There is a slight variation is screen gap, but not nearly as pronounced as other photos I have seen. I am not scared or turned off by what I received.
I am not having any charging issues
Today will be the first full day after fully charging the phone. I will screenshot SOT and battery stats later tonight and upload
All camera modes are very slightly delayed. My 4XL did this too while it processed, but the 5 seems just a tad slower
I am sure some dust will accumulate in the voids over time, but my 4XL did the same thing so this is not an issue to me. I dont notice any immediate dust gathering from just taking it in and out of my pockets.
I am in the USA and purchased an unlocked direct from Google.

Oh wow I thought you had phone longer. Might wanna wait for few days before a review next time.

TokedUp said:
Oh wow I thought you had phone longer. Might wanna wait for few days before a review next time.
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Why, it's his initial impressions of the phone and some may find it helpful..... I do.

His title is Real World Review. But he doesn't have real world results yet. This is a first impression thread. Dont take it so personal.

TokedUp said:
His title is Real World Review. But he doesn't have real world results yet. This is a first impression thread. Dont take it so personal.
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I love it when people get all offended and try to throw it back on someone else. I'm not taking it personal, but then I'm an adult. Why don't YOU not take it so personal.

It's really just the title of the thread that is a little misleading. No big deal really take it for what it's worth. But let's keep this thread going it can be of help moving forward. I'd like to see also some the the new features and hidden gems we find.

I changed the title to make everyone happy on a Friday.
I created this so that people who have phones in route or on the fence could compare against Googles previous model. The only thing that will or would change is battery life. After a few days and power cycles I am sure it will only get better, but my opinions relative to the 4XL will remain the same day 1 or 30 days later.
That being said, here were the screen shots from yesterday. I had a light day for work. I ended up with 50% battery at 1am. The battery is much better than my 4XL already.

When websites get the phone they do an initial impression then after few days they do a review. Its like reviewing a video game after playing the demo.

iceman4357 said:
I changed the title to make everyone happy on a Friday.
I created this so that people who have phones in route or on the fence could compare against Googles previous model. The only thing that will or would change is battery life. After a few days and power cycles I am sure it will only get better, but my opinions relative to the 4XL will remain the same day 1 or 30 days later.
That being said, here were the screen shots from yesterday. I had a light day for work. I ended up with 50% battery at 1am. The battery is much better than my 4XL already.
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Read an article last night guy was getting 9hrs screen time! Pretty damn good

Day 2 battery results.