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VZW - Bolt to Charge (Was Worth a Try!)

Good times! Just for fun I thought I'd call VZW and see if we could swap out the HTC for the Charge given all the ridiculous radio issues. I even went as far to say that the rebooting based on the new update was just the final straw. I'm at day 31 I think. As predicted they said now.
I had to play off like I had lost the phone and couldn't find it when they were asking for my software version! XDA saved the day! I logged on and said, "The 605.7 #?" haha.
I'm a little disappointed with the way this phone has been handled. This topic is probably a waste of time but I wouldn't mind seeing if others gave it a try...

Breezer23 said:
... given all the ridiculous radio issues.
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What are these ridiculous radio issues you speak of? The VZ network issues would be trouble for the Charge as well.
I for one think the Thunderbolt is top notch build wise. 4g - LTE is still in it's infancy. The Charge looks to be another cheaper plastic Sammy product that I would never trade for IMHO.

The charge has a wonderful screen.. and a slightly superior battery life.. other than that... I don't think it stacks up to the TB in terms of build quality and aesthetics. I hate the chamfered corners on the bottom.. yuck!

I only have 4G coverage at my work. Regardless of radio I'm constantly cycling between 4G, 3G, Analog, and then no data. I've had to turn off 4G entirely to get any sort of reliable connection.
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I have a thunderbolt and I love it. I don't understand the love for the build quality. The charge looks clean an hell and yes it uses a plastic back, but thunderbolt probably the worst build quality phone I have tried in a while. The phone feels like it was slapped together in a hurry. The whole phone squeaks all the time when I press to clean the screen, feels like the sides are going to break. The light leaking from the bottom seal, no I am not talking about looking at it from top. I dont have it but I have seen plenty of people including one of my friends have that problem.
Radio issues are all at verizon's end, you can blame big red for not getting their act together, I still dont get good 4g at my house even though I am in the dead center of coverage. I do however get great 4g everywhere else I am suppose to get 4g.
I think charge has very good build quality.
Thunderbolt a good phone but not so great build quality. Stand peeling off, Light leaking through the bottom edge, screen is not flushed against the sides, I had water get in on top while trying to install zag screen protector but it only got behind the verizon logo and didn't get on the screen.
I look at the evo, the screen looks like it blends in with the body of the phone alot better than it does with the thunderbolt. Few of my friends have it, the glass quality used on the evo looks much superior than the thunderbolt.

My Thunderbolt has none of those issues. Coming from the Atrix its a tank in the best possible way.
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I wouldnt switch for the Charge. The thunderbolt to me is damn near perfect. Plus I would never get a Samsung phone due to their lack of actually caring about a phone for more than a week.

Howler718 said:
My Thunderbolt has none of those issues. Coming from the Atrix its a tank in the best possible way.
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You're are me. I feel the exact same and have both phones.

nkd said:
I have a thunderbolt and I love it. I don't understand the love for the build quality. The charge looks clean an hell and yes it uses a plastic back, but thunderbolt probably the worst build quality phone I have tried in a while. The phone feels like it was slapped together in a hurry. The whole phone squeaks all the time when I press to clean the screen, feels like the sides are going to break. The light leaking from the bottom seal, no I am not talking about looking at it from top. I dont have it but I have seen plenty of people including one of my friends have that problem.
Radio issues are all at verizon's end, you can blame big red for not getting their act together, I still dont get good 4g at my house even though I am in the dead center of coverage. I do however get great 4g everywhere else I am suppose to get 4g.
I think charge has very good build quality.
Thunderbolt a good phone but not so great build quality. Stand peeling off, Light leaking through the bottom edge, screen is not flushed against the sides, I had water get in on top while trying to install zag screen protector but it only got behind the verizon logo and didn't get on the screen.
I look at the evo, the screen looks like it blends in with the body of the phone alot better than it does with the thunderbolt. Few of my friends have it, the glass quality used on the evo looks much superior than the thunderbolt.
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Man I disagree with every word you said. Plus the charge is hideous.

Breezer23 said:
I'm at day 31 I think.
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You are about 17 days passed the return policy, you definitely weren't gonna get a free swap to a more expensive phone no matter how much u complained. The most they would have done is replaced ur current one under warranty. Lol

I know... But if you don't ask you'll never know. I bought this phone using my sister's upgrade since she couldn't afford it. Plan is to use my upgrade once the Galaxy S II comes out and give this to her at that point.
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eallan said:
Man I disagree with every word you said. Plus the charge is hideous.
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You think you've seen ugly, check out the Charge with the extended battery in it. Scroll down to post #15 in this link:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/sam...-battery-life-shorter-than-thunderbolt-2.html
Makes the Thunderbolt with it's extended battery look freaking beautiful. I actually burst out laughing when I saw those pics. I can't believe people will actually pay money to carry that ugly phone around...I mean...DAMN it's ugly before the extended battery, but in those pics it's hideous

Man all this talk about the tb's build quality is really hard to understand for me. I love the quality and if it werent for wanting to keep my phones in good condition. I would rock it without a case to show it off. Shes a beauty.
I paid full retail for mine the day it launched and since then i have been able to sleep at night. Even with that ugly charge from a non supportive manufacturer being announced. And it does look uglier with extended battery. I didn't think it could look uglier. Coming from 4 years of RIM brainwash im more than happy with my ThunderBolt.

Old MuckenMire said:
You think you've seen ugly, check out the Charge with the extended battery in it. Scroll down to post #15 in this link:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/sam...-battery-life-shorter-than-thunderbolt-2.html
Makes the Thunderbolt with it's extended battery look freaking beautiful. I actually burst out laughing when I saw those pics. I can't believe people will actually pay money to carry that ugly phone around...I mean...DAMN it's ugly before the extended battery, but in those pics it's hideous
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Oh my god that's awful.

I've heard of a butterface before, but the Charge is an "everything butterface" of the phone world. Egads, it looks like one of those concept cars you look at and hope they never actually make.
I do hope Samsung starts making phones with excellent build quality because it will benefit us all if we have more alternatives, but until they do I don't think I'll own another one.

nkd said:
I have a thunderbolt and I love it. I don't understand the love for the build quality. The charge looks clean an hell and yes it uses a plastic back, but thunderbolt probably the worst build quality phone I have tried in a while. The phone feels like it was slapped together in a hurry. The whole phone squeaks all the time when I press to clean the screen, feels like the sides are going to break. The light leaking from the bottom seal, no I am not talking about looking at it from top. I dont have it but I have seen plenty of people including one of my friends have that problem.
Radio issues are all at verizon's end, you can blame big red for not getting their act together, I still dont get good 4g at my house even though I am in the dead center of coverage. I do however get great 4g everywhere else I am suppose to get 4g.
I think charge has very good build quality.
Thunderbolt a good phone but not so great build quality. Stand peeling off, Light leaking through the bottom edge, screen is not flushed against the sides, I had water get in on top while trying to install zag screen protector but it only got behind the verizon logo and didn't get on the screen.
I look at the evo, the screen looks like it blends in with the body of the phone alot better than it does with the thunderbolt. Few of my friends have it, the glass quality used on the evo looks much superior than the thunderbolt.
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no sure I agree with you man the TB feels solid to me Ive tried the charge and it felt dinky and at any moment was gonna break love the build style of the TB. All of this could also be that i am HTC fan boy so ya. the light leaks ya Ive noticed it doesn't bother me to much.
curse you so i went and re looked at the phone and ya i can see where ur coming from still love the phone.

I like the look of the extended battery, I have grown fond of it using it on my Thunderbolt...so this won't be a big change on the Droid Charge

0mie said:
I like the look of the extended battery, I have grown fond of it using it on my Thunderbolt...so this won't be a big change on the Droid Charge
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Are you looking at the same pictures as I am? That makes the thunderbolt extended battery look beautiful.

Id happily take a charge over my TB if the Charge actually worked as advertised.
Ive tired of the tbolt's fail. Can barely use the thing with Android System eating all the CPU and battery..
Ill try to make due until the day that the bionic gets here.. whenever that might be..

Old MuckenMire said:
You think you've seen ugly, check out the Charge with the extended battery in it. Scroll down to post #15 in this link:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/sam...-battery-life-shorter-than-thunderbolt-2.html
Makes the Thunderbolt with it's extended battery look freaking beautiful. I actually burst out laughing when I saw those pics. I can't believe people will actually pay money to carry that ugly phone around...I mean...DAMN it's ugly before the extended battery, but in those pics it's hideous
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Wow, that is the ugliest phone I think ive ever seen. That extended battery is just ridiculous.

First 2 Days with the Sensation

Got my Sensation 2 days ago, and after the amount of *****ing I read on this forum I was a bit worried...
So here is my verdict:
The good:
- Camera issues (crashed on pic): NOPE
- Screen responsiveness issues: NOPE
- WiFi issues: NOPE
- Lag: NOPE, stop *****ing, this is more responsive than a Desire
- Great keyboard, I love the multi-language suggest
The bad:
- Reception is AWFUL. The Desire wins hands down. Nothing to do with death grip either, on the same network with Speed Test the Desire scores are double, seriously!
- The screen is a fingerprint attractor. How you do you guys clean the screen? Anyone using some antistatic coating? Can you recommend one?
I come from a Desire, compared to that this phone feels a lot better. Seriously.
To the people that said it doesn't feel like much of an update compared to the Desire: I really don't get you.
//lys

lysergic said:
- Reception is AWFUL. The Desire wins hands down. Nothing to do with death grip either, on the same network with Speed Test the Desire scores are double, seriously!
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Try the fix in the development section. It seems to have boosted most peoples speed.

karnovaran said:
Try the fix in the development section. It seems to have boosted most peoples speed.
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Do you mean This thread? I did that already.
Otherwise could you point me to the relevant thread?
It just seems that the radio is not up to scratch :S
//G

I've tried a lot of different things to clean the screen on my sensation and I've come to the conclusion that you can use a t shirt, a blanket, a napkin, a towel ect. Seriously this is the easiest screen on a touch screen phone to clean. A free rubs on my sleeve and its spotless. And with the gorilla glass you don't have to worry about scratching it. Enjoy your sensation

missing2 said:
I've tried a lot of different things to clean the screen on my sensation and I've come to the conclusion that you can use a t shirt, a blanket, a napkin, a towel ect. Seriously this is the easiest screen on a touch screen phone to clean. A free rubs on my sleeve and its spotless. And with the gorilla glass you don't have to worry about scratching it. Enjoy your sensation
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Hmm, I've got the Sharp screen and it's definitely more finger print prone than a Desire...
//lys

lysergic said:
Hmm, I've got the Sharp screen and it's definitely more finger print prone than a Desire...
//lys
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Wash your hands once in a while jeez......... j/k
I have the AUO screen (screen manufacturer makes no difference in the gorilla glass btw) and mine is definately succeptable to fingerprints, but they are easier to wipe off than they are to acquire.

Glad to see more threads with people actually singing the phones praises and saying that not everyone suffers from these issues. So many people report problems, but very few report when everything goes fine. So as we all know this means anyone coming into the forum just sees lots of issues, it's easy to forget that it's only a few people sufering from these, and only the ones suffering seem to add to the threads that have been opened anyway.
Thanks for the good news

Coming from the dell streak, I have to say I love this phone, it is way better than the streak. Mind u if the streak had sense 3.0, then I might have a different opinion LOL.
Ok the reception has issues (random ones) but that's not that big a problem,
Love the HTC widgets, its great to see manufacturers like to have a polished interface that is very useable straight out the box. That said would be even better if they could be re-sizeable. (couldnt believe how bad stage was) its great you don't have to down load apps to get the phone the way u want it, just wish I could get a refund now on those paid ones lol
Before mine arrived I had picked up on some of the negative posts and was a bit concerned, but everything works perfect. HTC put this in a 5 incher n I'll buy one 2morrow as I miss the steaks real estate but size isn't everything lol.
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One week with the AT&T HTC One X

Well, I saw a Rogers user posting his comments after a week of use so I figured I'd post some opinion as well, especially since I disagree with several of his opinions.
First, I've noticed the wi-fi issue as well. As with some other posters my router is not known to be super reliable, so that could have some impact. Also, it seems that some folks are having success switching to G instead of N and that may also help as I believe I am on G at work and I haven't had any issue with wi-fi at work. Hopefully this can be fixed with a software update.
I first reported some disappointment with the warm hue of the screen, and either it is growing on me or it is burning in a little bit and the tans, greens, and oranges are starting to look better. The screen as a whole looks fantastic. Several people have remarked how it looks like a sticker on the phone or like the image is sitting on top of the glass. The resolution is fantastic and everything looks crisp vibrant. Reds, blues, and yellows look fine too. White seems pretty white to me. When comparing a white screen on the HOX to an AMOLED screen the HOX looks white and the AMOLED looks blue.
Battery life is about what I was expecting and seems to be on-par with the international version. I've not had any trouble making it from 8AM to 11PM even with pretty heavy usage. It's not as good as my Captivate on AOKP which could make it ~30 hrs under my normal usage which is relatively light. Because the HOX is such a great phone and it's brand new I've been using it a lot more so the most I think I've gotten is 18 or 19 hours which most people would consider fantastic in consideration of the usage.
Camera is by no means average and it absolutely smokes the iPhone 4S. I took some test shots with my wife's iPhone and the HOX just blows it away. The flash is much better, but even in low light without the flash the HOX looks better, has less grain to the photos and generally focuses better and has better color reproduction. The speed of the camera is incredible and using the burst mode to capture a moment is a stroke of genius if you have a dog or a kid that you want to take a pic of them doing something cute.
I've not had any status bar icon issues or in call volume adjustment.
My biggest complaint is not being able to turn off LTE since I'm not in an LTE area. I tried using a different APN and I didn't notice any difference and it didn't improve my battery life at all. I only had the new APN for ~2 days but I felt I may have been getting worse battery life, but certainly wasn't getting better battery life so I just went back to the stock APN.
I guess the Rogers poster was coming from an iPhone and remarked on a slight lag moving between homescreens. This is exagerated to say the least. This phone with sense 4.0 is the fastest UI I've seen on an android phone and the only phone that is more fluid is the iphone and that is due to apple putting realtime priority on UI rendering computations while Android puts industry standard normal priority on rendering. No matter how good the code is, no matter how fast the processor is, it's just never going to look like the iphone because it's never going to have realtime priority. That said, this phone responds instantly to all touches in virtually all parts of the phone. The only times I've seen lag is either app related or network related. It's a great user experience.
Another concern I saw in some other threads that I completely agree with is that the white smudges easily. In addition, the polycarbonate shell may be very durable in that it protects the phone, but it's basically the same material as a LEGO and as such can be dented with a drop as I've unfortunately experienced already. As far as the smudging the phone wipes back to a bright white easily, but probably needs to be cleaned every few days to keep it bright white and not getting dull. The white looks fantastic, best looking white phone out there, but I'd have to reluctantly recommend the grey if you aren't going to use a case in order to hide some dirt and dings more easily.
Overall, this is a fantastic phone. HTC has lived up to the hype and produced THE top android the device out right now. If you want the best in basically every area, you want an HOX right now, and it doesn't look like Samsung is going to beat it and it's going to take quite some time for the S3 to come to the US. If you've got an ATT upgrade in the next 2 months, you'd be crazy not to drop it on the HOX.

Hey since your on the AT & T version and you don't have the setting to turn LTE off. Type *#*#4636#*#* go to phone information and you can switch it to GSM/HSPA only. Let me know if that works for you!

My two biggest concerns right now are the wi-fi performance (which seems to be real and potentially fixed with a software update) and the battery life. In a few days we should see professional reviews for the AT&T model that will be able to compare the international and LTE editions under equal usage.
I know the white is harder to keep clean but I really prefer the look of it over the grey. Maybe I'd just make the effort to keep it clean.
I also think the camera lens is an issue with respect to scratches. I don't plan on using a case 95% of the time, so I'd have to find a DIY way to cover said lens while not in use. (I was thinking a small piece of electrical tape or something along those lines.)
I'm also going to wait until the WWDC keynote next month to see what Apple has in store for iOS 6.
If the wi-fi issue can get settled, battery life is solid while using LTE, iOS 6 isn't leaps and bounds better than iOS 5, then I'll probably make the jump. Some things to line up first though.

therulebookman said:
Camera is by no means average and it absolutely smokes the iPhone 4S. I took some test shots with my wife's iPhone and the HOX just blows it away. The flash is much better, but even in low light without the flash the HOX looks better, has less grain to the photos and generally focuses better and has better color reproduction. The speed of the camera is incredible and using the burst mode to capture a moment is a stroke of genius if you have a dog or a kid that you want to take a pic of them doing something cute.
I've not had any status bar icon issues or in call volume adjustment.
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I did some more testing with the camera and no doubt it is able to create some fairly high quality shots. I just find the camera experience a bit easier overall with the i4s. We have matte grey walls at home and for some reason they always show up weird and distorted, I'll take a pic after work tonight and post it to show you what I mean.. I'll also post a comparison pic off the iPhone camera.

mattymon said:
Hey since your on the AT & T version and you don't have the setting to turn LTE off. Type *#*#4636#*#* go to phone information and you can switch it to GSM/HSPA only. Let me know if that works for you!
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Tried this before and posted results in my first thread about it. Doesn't work.

Odd question, can you do time lapse videos? I know this is an ICS thing, just wondering if HTC left it in?

BoostedSR20 said:
Odd question, can you do time lapse videos? I know this is an ICS thing, just wondering if HTC left it in?
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I don't have the phone yet but i remember from reading a review from neowin that they left the time lapse feature out.

blairh said:
My two biggest concerns right now are the wi-fi performance (which seems to be real and potentially fixed with a software update) and the battery life. In a few days we should see professional reviews for the AT&T model that will be able to compare the international and LTE editions under equal usage.
I know the white is harder to keep clean but I really prefer the look of it over the grey. Maybe I'd just make the effort to keep it clean.
I also think the camera lens is an issue with respect to scratches. I don't plan on using a case 95% of the time, so I'd have to find a DIY way to cover said lens while not in use. (I was thinking a small piece of electrical tape or something along those lines.)
I'm also going to wait until the WWDC keynote next month to see what Apple has in store for iOS 6.
If the wi-fi issue can get settled, battery life is solid while using LTE, iOS 6 isn't leaps and bounds better than iOS 5, then I'll probably make the jump. Some things to line up first though.
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I know a lot of user's are concerned about getting the white version dirty, eBay has some clear gel cases for 2$, figured I'd share since a clear case won't hide the beauty of this device
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rambo8987 said:
I know a lot of user's are concerned about getting the white version dirty, eBay has some clear gel cases for 2$, figured I'd share since a clear case won't hide the beauty of this device
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No clue if I'll end up getting the One X, but if I do, I'm only going to use a case when necessary (working around the house, etc). Love the way that polycarbonate feels in my hand. Camera lens needs to be covered with something though.

Has anyone messed with the APN settings and noticed a difference in battery life. You definitely can force HSPA/+.

Need new phone, One S ?

I currently got the HTC Desire HD and kinda love it. But it starts to get too slow, battery gets worse and so I thought about getting a new phone.
The HTC One S looks nice, perfect size, good performance, good camera and due to the AMOLED it looks like the battery last long enough as well.
But how does the AMOLED display quality look like compared to e.g. my Desire HD ? How abour reading from the display at sunny days?
Thanks

Get it you won't be sorry. Screen is a thing of beauty.
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I got it recently, chose it over OneX and S3 because of its size, and couldn't be happier with it. You won't be sorry if you get One S. Search similar threads for more info.

Make sure HTC sells the s4 version of the phone your country.
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MidhunCN said:
Make sure HTC sells the s4 version of the phone your country.
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Ye I would get the S4. I am just curios about the AMOLED quality compared to other phones. Besides that it should be perfect for me

TBH I love my AMOLED. Colors are nice and sharp and its barely pixelated.

xona said:
TBH I love my AMOLED. Colors are nice and sharp and its barely pixelated.
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TBH to me it was straight out pixalated, I have an S3 & Amaze and no noticeable pixels anywhere. just my opinion
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The display is great and one thing, which definitely deserves more praise rather than just being slated by a number of people and review sites. Sure the screen isn't as good in terms of sharpness and screen real estate compared to the GS 3, one X, GN and SE phones due to the 720P res. but the colours of it are superb and IMO better than the GN (too dull), GS 2 (too over saturated), SE phones (personally not really keen on their displays when it comes to the colours) and also the GS 3 screen, but the best thing about the one S screen is just how good it performs when in sunlight (as in sun shining right on the screen), I can see stuff (even on black backgrounds) without even having to squint my eyes (and that isn't even with 100% brightness, only like 70% brightness selected) where as with the GS 2 etc. I always have to cover it slightly with my hand in order to make a text or website etc. out. And with my S, there is no yellow/blue tints at all, no matter what brightness I put the mobile to, whites are extremely bright white (better than my dell U2311H), this will vary from unit to unit though.
IMO the desire HD has one of the worst displays ever, colours are extremely washed out, viewing angles are non existent, and it isn't that sharp either.
I do notice the pentile matrix, however, I only notice it when I have my face right up to the screen or am really concentrating on trying to spot the effects of it. The most noticeable areas I notice it are on the notification icons and white/grey text on black backgrounds.
From one of the best sites when it comes to hardware stuff and so knows what they are talking about:
I’ve griped about PenTile RGBG before on this panel and other SAMOLED displays, but I find the One S to be completely enjoyable in spite of having it thanks to two things. First, how well HTC has controlled the panel (no awful hues, weird white points, or dramatic shifts as you change brightness) - this is basically the best I’ve seen this particular panel, and until SGS3, the best I’ve seen AMOLED in general. Second, because HTC doesn’t appear to be applying any processing that applies sharpening (like Samsung’s mDNIe) to text.
How you feel about PenTile really is the final factor: it’s there, but I’ve slowly become accustomed to it after staring at it for so long. If you go back to the Nexus S days, I was one of the most outspoken critics because of how large those subpixels were. With small enough subpixels (below visual acuity), PenTile starts to make sense. In other news, HTC moving back to Samsung AMOLED for phones is an interesting move after supply issues forced HTC to SLCD with some earlier phones, here on the HTC One S however, it looks great.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
Although as always, you should check out for yourself first to see what you think.

Imo, I would get the OneS if I were you.
I also came from the DHD, an moved forward after the no update fiasco.
I am on pre-pay and did not want to sign a contract again, actually ever but that's another issue, so I shopped around for the OneS on sell in different places. I could not swing full retail so I looked for NIB phones that are turned over fast.
Well long story short is, I looked and looked for a slightly used phone and never scored one sadly, I would up grabbing a OneX NIB for under 400 and couldn't say no to that price.
However I still like an want a OneS, nice form factor coming from the DHD and really is a sharp looking phone.
Would I suggest one to my friends, in a heartbeat.
Get yourself a OneS an rock on.
WR
Rattled off a KingCobra OneX

rul3z said:
I got it recently, chose it over OneX and S3 because of its size, and couldn't be happier with it. You won't be sorry if you get One S. Search similar threads for more info.
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Same here. One X is so awesome big Take One S S4 - great phone. But remember using a case when you order the black version, cause after some time the color in the edges turns silver...

This phone has been available to purchase for one month. Give your thoughts!

I am not disappointed in my purchase. And the development is already extraordinary.
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Lovin every second spent with this device. No complaints on my end.
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Best phone on Verizon right now unless you're a cell phone photographer.
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Best phone I've had in years
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I like it a lot. Not the slightest bit of stuttering yet. I've yet to root because I don't need it yet and I'd like my warranty to last at least a few months. Sadly on stock my ps3 controller OTG doesn't work. Might sound pity but that was a huge letdown.
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I traded my lockeddown galaxy s4 and all its accessories for this phone as soon s-off had been achieved. lucky me that a friend was adding a new line but wanted the s4 and has zero intentions of doing any modifications to the the phone. I am very impressed with this phone my only irritation is that if I have one of my pics set as wallpaper after a restart it's totally zoomed in/resized. this isn't egregious enough for me to actually try and fix though... not that it stays long anyway being flash happy lol.

I am happy with mine. I have a few problems but they are relatively minor.
1. Speaker grills. Make sure you get one that the grills are flush with the glass if you are going to use a screen protector that goes around the speakers.
2. Why in the hell would HTC only put a red/green LED notification light on it???? That is plain stupid.

wtoj34 said:
I like it a lot. Not the slightest bit of stuttering yet. I've yet to root because I don't need it yet and I'd like my warranty to last at least a few months. Sadly on stock my ps3 controller OTG doesn't work. Might sound pity but that was a huge letdown.
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If you have an XBox 360 controller, they supposedly work via OTG also. I only have a wireless controller (which didn't come with a USB charger cable, or else I lost it) so I can't test it.
As far as the M8....I love it. Development is great, and the M8 itself is a fantastic device. I just wish the radios were a bit stronger. I have frequent issues at my gym with the reception cutting out, which apparently the phone doesn't deal with very well...I have to toggle airplane mode to get data going again, which happens usually 2-3 times during a workout. However, the reception inside my gym is horrible anyway (and it's only slightly better out in the parking lot. usually 1-2 bars, max).
Also, I do feel bad about hiding this beautiful phone inside of a case, but the damn thing is just too slippery...

Terrific phone, best available right now for sure. For a long time I completely undervalued a great stock software experience thinking CM would provide a better experience than, say, touchwiz. I was very wrong. CM on the GS3 was mostly stable, but that's just it... Mostly. It never got to the point of stability that CM7 enjoyed with Gingerbread. Things are different now.
HTC by far has the best stock experience of any manufacturer skin available. I find this experience to be equal to AOSP in my tastes. They did an elegant job.
Quality control/build quality is something I've learned a lot about by having this phone. I don't think I'm going to pit a metal chassis as highly as I did when deciding to go with this phone.
I had to return two of them due to minor imperfections and decided to settle with this one which over time is seeming to degrade dramatically.
- One of the plastic strips on the back is sunken in a bit and yields sharp edges when you run your fingers across it. It also looks bad from certain angles.
- My camera does not sit evenly in its hole. Rather, it's slightly tilted by 5-10 degrees. As far as I can tell this does not affect picture quality but again, feels unpleasant when your finger glides across the camera hole which you will occasionally.
- Speaking about fingers on camera, you'll be wiping it down a bit to clear the smudges. It's indented nature will make it harder to fully clean. Because of this, its easy to scratch the lens. I'm looking into camera lens protectors now.
- As mentioned, the speaker grills are problematic. Mine are mostly flush with the screen, but again, it's that MOSTLY again. On top of that, my bottom grill seems to have minor warping/a wavy surface. Light reflections emphasize this flaw but it's probably the least of my worries.
It's funny how I thought I was getting this phone for it's superior materials and build and ended up feeling unfulfilled in that aspect but being fully enamored with the software. Most of my build flaws are either diminished or not noticeable covered by a case, which I always use a little protection. Because of this, plastic is fine for me in the future if it means more consistent quality and longevity. I don't feel the superior materials when I'm using a case anyway.
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thunderbls said:
I traded my lockeddown galaxy s4 and all its accessories for this phone as soon s-off had been achieved. lucky me that a friend was adding a new line but wanted the s4 and has zero intentions of doing any modifications to the the phone. I am very impressed with this phone my only irritation is that if I have one of my pics set as wallpaper after a restart it's totally zoomed in/resized. this isn't egregious enough for me to actually try and fix though... not that it stays long anyway being flash happy lol.
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Damn you got so lucky!
I had to sell Note 3 (locked) to get this phone. I also had a One Max in between.
85gallon said:
I am happy with mine. I have a few problems but they are relatively minor.
1. Speaker grills. Make sure you get one that the grills are flush with the glass if you are going to use a screen protector that goes around the speakers.
2. Why in the hell would HTC only put a red/green LED notification light on it???? That is plain stupid.
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1. This is true. My first and second HTC One M7 had bad problems with unevenness.
2. Thats the best part about it. I love it! The HTC One M7 the light was barely noticeable. Now I can see it!
Div033 said:
Terrific phone, best available right now for sure. For a long time I completely undervalued a great stock software experience thinking CM would provide a better experience than, say, touchwiz. I was very wrong. CM on the GS3 was mostly stable, but that's just it... Mostly. It never got to the point of stability that CM7 enjoyed with Gingerbread. Things are different now.
HTC by far has the best stock experience of any manufacturer skin available. I find this experience to be equal to AOSP in my tastes. They did an elegant job.
Quality control/build quality is something I've learned a lot about by having this phone. I don't think I'm going to pit a metal chassis as highly as I did when deciding to go with this phone.
I had to return two of them due to minor imperfections and decided to settle with this one which over time is seeming to degrade dramatically.
- One of the plastic strips on the back is sunken in a bit and yields sharp edges when you run your fingers across it. It also looks bad from certain angles.
- My camera does not sit evenly in its hole. Rather, it's slightly tilted by 5-10 degrees. As far as I can tell this does not affect picture quality but again, feels unpleasant when your finger glides across the camera hole which you will occasionally.
- Speaking about fingers on camera, you'll be wiping it down a bit to clear the smudges. It's indented nature will make it harder to fully clean. Because of this, its easy to scratch the lens. I'm looking into camera lens protectors now.
- As mentioned, the speaker grills are problematic. Mine are mostly flush with the screen, but again, it's that MOSTLY again. On top of that, my bottom grill seems to have minor warping/a wavy surface. Light reflections emphasize this flaw but it's probably the least of my worries.
It's funny how I thought I was getting this phone for it's superior materials and build and ended up feeling unfulfilled in that aspect but being fully enamored with the software. Most of my build flaws are either diminished or not noticeable covered by a case, which I always use a little protection. Because of this, plastic is fine for me in the future if it means more consistent quality and longevity. I don't feel the superior materials when I'm using a case anyway.
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-Plastic Strips: Wow, that does blow. After you mentioned that I tested mine to see if they were like yours. Not at all. Completely smooth. You cannot detect a variance in height variance. Even while running my fingernail over them.
- Camera fit: I inspected mine; Perfect symmetry.
- Speaker grills. I know this issue well because of M7. I got lucky on this one because that offset drove me insane.
TBH: with all the little tweaks your phone has... It sounds like it has been dropped or twisted. Yes it could be bad build quality as well but I would really hate to think that.
is there any way you can exchange yours? Mine is near perfect, its sad to see yours is so... crappy.

scrosler said:
-Plastic Strips: Wow, that does blow. After you mentioned that I tested mine to see if they were like yours. Not at all. Completely smooth. You cannot detect a variance in hight however, as suspected the material feels different but not unexpected
- Camera fit: I inspected mine as well. Perfect symmetry.
- Speaker grills. I know this issue well because of M7. I got lucky on this one because that offset drove me insane.
TBH: with all the little tweaks your phone has... It sounds like it has been dropped or twisted. Yes it could be bad build quality as well but I would really hate to think that.
is there any way you can exchange yours? Mine is near perfect, its sad to see yours is so... crappy.
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Yeah I just got unlucky but oh well I'll live. The first time it was a tiny crack in the corner, the second time was a bump on the bottom speaker grill and was tired of replacing so I decided to just live with the third. I feel like it's punishment for being so picky or something lol
I'm past the 14 day return window but even if I wasn't I was tired of bothering the people at the Verizon store. It's a third party one and they were really nice and helped me keep my unlimited data, so I felt like I was being a hassle. It's also my fault for not examining it close enough to notice the crooked camera, even when they were insisting that I deeply inspect it before going with it.
No drops at all either. I've had it in a case practically since I got it as well. Hell maybe it's the case's fault (for the plastic bands, at least). Sounds like you got lucky, I figure it's just my turn to have some quirks as I've been pretty lucky with tech up to this point. Honestly I'm probably making them sound a lot worse than they actually are too.
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scrosler said:
2. Thats the best part about it. I love it! The HTC One M7 the light was barely noticeable. Now I can see it!
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Well I am having that problem with this phone. It is barely noticeable. But I am coming from a Moto RAZR MAXX with a large LED that is capable of multiple colors. I had lightflow set to use blue/white mostly. Some yellow. I guess the main reason I am *****ing is because I am red/green color blind. I can't tell the difference in the colors they offer (red/green)
I don't expect special treatment, but WHY do companies CONTINUE to offer colors that are not visible/distinguishable by about 10% of the population? Why not just use easily distinguishable colors? Like Blue and Yellow.
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I'm happy with mine. I don't see any of the flaws mentioned here or anywhere else for that matter. Camera, speaker grills, screen, they are all as they should be. As far as I can see anyway. I love this phone.
That said, I do have one and only one beef about it. The notification LED. No, not that it's not bright enough or the colors available. It's that it only stays on for 5 minutes or so. I'll admit I haven't spent a whole bunch of time searching for an answer but I've spent enough and have yet to come up with a way to make it stay on until I've looked at whatever it is it's notifying me about. Sounds like it's been this way a bit for HTC for a while though. This is my first HTC phone and I'm used to picking up the phone and seeing that light flash. Regardless of how long ago it's been since I've received a call, text or whatever. I'd much prefer to be able to just glance at the phone and see if anything's happening as opposed to having to pick it up and turn on the screen.
I suppose they do it for battery savings. Don't know. But, I find it hard to believe that turning that little diode off after 5 minutes saves anything worth saving. It's not like it's going to be 2 days before I look at it. That said, I can't blame it on the phone. It's HTC's software that comes into play there.
Anyway, other than that, I'm a happy camper.

Yes, yes I did.. get lucky with obtaining this phone. ???

Div033 said:
Yeah I just got unlucky but oh well I'll live. The first time it was a tiny crack in the corner, the second time was a bump on the bottom speaker grill and was tired of replacing so I decided to just live with the third. I feel like it's punishment for being so picky or something lol
I'm past the 14 day return window but even if I wasn't I was tired of bothering the people at the Verizon store. It's a third party one and they were really nice and helped me keep my unlimited data, so I felt like I was being a hassle. It's also my fault for not examining it close enough to notice the crooked camera, even when they were insisting that I deeply inspect it before going with it.
No drops at all either. I've had it in a case practically since I got it as well. Hell maybe it's the case's fault (for the plastic bands, at least). Sounds like you got lucky, I figure it's just my turn to have some quirks as I've been pretty lucky with tech up to this point. Honestly I'm probably making them sound a lot worse than they actually are too.
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Just a follow up to this and a warning to any others out there, I managed to reset my camera lens to a very level angle (maybe 0.5-1 degrees off still) by pressing gently but firmly down on the raised side.
I think what may have happened is I pressed down a little too hard when cleaning the lens, causing it to become uneven. So be gentle when you wipe down your camera lens!
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Definitely happy with my purchased of the M8. 1 flaw we all kno Wat that is but besides that I pleased . Not one lag unlock boot loaders s-off can't get no better. And 6 sense smooth no delays waiting for apps to open.
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Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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xmoox said:
Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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If you get a GS5, make sure you get one with a good camera. They are failing miserably. LOL
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/samsung-to-replace-galaxy-s5-phones-affected-by-faulty-84127046184.html

xmoox said:
Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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There was recently a leaked photo of a Verizon Xperia Z2. I'd sooner get a Z2 than a GS5.
I agree with many of your points though I just don't think anyone should have to deal with the horror that is Touchwiz.
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Of course, the One (M8) isn't a phone that's going to be to everyone's tastes. It's amazing product, the camera is fantastic and the battery has improved a bit and also with its with it's stunning design, this with the price. Everything I'm looking for a smartphone, its already here! Since I bought my M8, I did embrace and love it since then.