XZ2c first impressions - Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact Guides, News, & Discussion

I pre-ordered the xz2c with the wireless headphones bundle offer... can't wait to try it, will post my impressions here once I get it.
if anyone got it already or will get it before me, can please share his/her first impressions based on real usage? especially comments on camera quality... thanks!

FcukBloat said:
I pre-ordered the xz2c with the wireless headphones bundle offer... can't wait to try it, will post my impressions here once I get it.
if anyone got it already or will get it before me, can please share his/her first impressions based on real usage? especially comments on camera quality... thanks!
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So will the old xz3c folks play with an decent compact phone, once again?! I really hope so (and I'm in)! :highfive:

serajr said:
So will the old xz3c folks play with an decent compact phone, once again?! I really hope so (and I'm in)! :highfive:
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wonderful chief, this is great news! :victory:
this is the only nice phone being released nowadays not having a huge 6" screen or damned edges/notch so... :good:
hope to see you too here around soon so! great we can expect wonderful contributions from your side :good::victory:

I can't wait to see what the camera can do with the gcam hdr+

Just ordered a XZ2 Compact in White Silver. This will be my first Sony phone. Kinda excited.
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Just ordered a XZ2 Compact in White Silver. This will be my first Sony phone. Kinda excited.
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I've had plenty of Sony's in my past, but I am in no way a fan boy. I'm interested in your thoughts, but I give you some things I've found across the 4-5 I've owned;
1) The build quality of Sony devices are typically very good. Just picking them up is a pleasure.
2) You may find the interface interesting at first, but it typically is not far off from stock, and they do have some nice apps. (PS, I miss the tiny apps or whatever they were called).
3) I love the camera button - you'll miss it once you don't have it
4) It seems that volume for music etc is typically lower than on other devices. It used to take rooting and changing build prop etc... to make it LOUD. GSM review seems to like audio on the xz2
5) Updates are frequent
6) Root is easy to acheive, but breaks some things until the wonderful modders get involved and fake the DRM keys
7) #6 makes custom rom's a fools errand early on - Hopefully Trebel helps that and the DRM thing becomes easier
8) If you think the battery will last X, it will shock you how much longer than X it lasts. Sony is PHENOMENAL with power management.

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I've had plenty of Sony's in my past, but I am in no way a fan boy. I'm interested in your thoughts, but I give you some things I've found across the 4-5 I've owned;
1) The build quality of Sony devices are typically very good. Just picking them up is a pleasure.
2) You may find the interface interesting at first, but it typically is not far off from stock, and they do have some nice apps. (PS, I miss the tiny apps or whatever they were called).
3) I love the camera button - you'll miss it once you don't have it
4) It seems that volume for music etc is typically lower than on other devices. It used to take rooting and changing build prop etc... to make it LOUD. GSM review seems to like audio on the xz2
5) Updates are frequent
6) Root is easy to acheive, but breaks some things until the wonderful modders get involved and fake the DRM keys
7) #6 makes custom rom's a fools errand early on - Hopefully Trebel helps that and the DRM thing becomes easier
8) If you think the battery will last X, it will shock you how much longer than X it lasts. Sony is PHENOMENAL with power management.
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Sounds interesting. About your point (6) and "fake the DRM keys." What is that about & why is it necessary for Sony phones?

optimummind said:
Just ordered a XZ2 Compact in White Silver. This will be my first Sony phone. Kinda excited.
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same here.. color and excitement I used sony for long, then abandoned it for some time, now I am going back... ATM I have a s7 flat but really can't get used to it don't like samsung at all..
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Sounds interesting. About your point (6) and "fake the DRM keys." What is that about & why is it necessary for Sony phones?
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in all recent sony phones unfortunately they use to add some proprietary sw alghoritms for improving the camera performances or other visual things that once you unlock your device's BL get lost. and can't be retrieved anymore or at least it is not very easy (in certain devices you can backup and restore them later, in some others you can't). so basically often if it is not a good choice to unlock the bl to flash a custom rom or even to just root your phone as the camera performances would su*k afterwards.. also because of this development on sony phones is pretty small and slow...
let's see how it goes with this new model, if drm keys will still be there what we would lose exactly unlocking the BL.. hope nothing too important it would be a pity cause with treble support we could expect some more development!

I saw the xz2 compact couple days before first time in local store. was pretty impressed. It was the black one. Looked a bit like a small business phone. I was just to buy a Pixel 2 after i returned my galaxy s9 due to light leak. but i saw it and could play with it a bit and compare with Pixel 2. I was not so impressed by the pictures and thickness of xz2c in the web after announcement but after holding it i can say the design is pretty perfect for me. No sharp edges anymore that are hurting your palm while holding it. The IPS Display was bright, sharp and colorful without oversaturation. The blacks are almost at OLED Level in comparison to my old z3 compact. Whitebalance is perfect and if you dont like it you can change it a bit warmer or colder in the settings. Finally no burn-in danger like on amoled. In my hand it did not seem so thick like on the pictures in the web. IT was comfortable to hold. Fingerprint scanner is much better located on the xz2c than on xz2. its higher and easier to reach. Vibration motor is finally better and not like on xz1c or xc. it was like a crazy bee in the the past. now perfect. Camera is also definetely better. Not on s9 or pixel 2 level in lowlight but really a visible improvement. of course the s9 can get more light at night but for me its ok. but wish it would have dualpixel autofocus. frontcam has also no auto softskin filter applied like in the past. Additionally Dual sim and sd card. maybe some will be able to port the gcam portrait mode to this nice phone. speakers are louder. not perfect like S9 with dolby atmos but a very good solid performance. maybe also someone will be able to create a mod with atmos support. the buttons could be a bit harder. i fear that in your pocket they could be pressed unintentionally. additionally i hpefully also get the hear on headphones or a ps vr in germany. a nice bonus. Android 8 runs perfectly smooth and quick on the device. much quicker than on any galaxy phone.
Finally my long search has now an end. i have returned my Galaxy s9 due to repeating light leaks. xz2c should arrive next week after easter and my z3compact can finally go to well deserved retirement.
Does anyone know if you can change the navbar order still via system ui tuner? would like to have
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thanks for sharing your early impressions! sounds good! I too hope I found a nice compact phone again to stay with for some time rather than changing it continuously looking for the best solution :laugh: I also had a green z3c which was beautiful, but this time the green version seemed pretty dull on web pictures, so I went for the white/silver one...
but in this nice (ITA) review I saw yesterday, green seems much more vivid and nicer, more like my old z3c! don't know if this is the real green in the end, but if it is, I think it was better than the white :crying:
had you a chance to see from real also the green version? if so how it looked?
btw can't wait to get it.. hopefully in about 10 days maximum from now? :fingers-crossed:
EDIT: about the navbar order, really don't know, hope so cause I too prefer back button on the right! :silly:

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had you a chance to see from real also the green version? if so how it looked?
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there was only black. i was also thinking about the silver/white one. Couldnt see it live. But i rather like more black at front and white or silver back so i have choosen the black one

Getting my White Silver XZ2 Compact tomorrow! [emoji114]
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Getting my White Silver XZ2 Compact tomorrow! [emoji114]
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mine (same color) should be arriving today! :victory::fingers-crossed:

i have the black one lying next to me. its a bit heavy after long term use. wish it would be a bit less heavy. sometime the edges of the usb-c port are irritating my small finger. would be better if sony have moved the usb port to the top.
the bottom mic hole gets sometimes covered by the hand when holding in landscape. on the right side would be better for the hole.
otherwise its a really nice phone. like the frontcam

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i have the black one lying next to me. its a bit heavy after long term use. wish it would be a bit less heavy. sometime the edges of the usb-c port are irritating my small finger. would be better if sony have moved the usb port to the top.
the bottom mic hole gets sometimes covered by the hand when holding in landscape. on the right side would be better for the hole.
otherwise its a really nice phone. like the frontcam
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just got mine and first impressions are.. wow! so beautiful in white and silver color.. really much better than I expected, from the images I was little worried but looks very nice in my hand! doesn't feel too heavy or thick to me, even after applying tempered glass protection and a cheap transparent cover for the back.. and usage with one hand is perfect! so far so good.. will see if I see problems later one.
only down side for me so far is the curved screen, that makes the glass protection to raise a little on the sides :crying: I expected that because of the curved screen, but I bought a smaller tempered glass meant to cover only the flat part of the screen so I hoped it would have been better, but still looks not so nice.. just aesthetic of course but don't like it.. damned curved screens and who invented them!

boy, this thing is tiny after using a note 8!

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boy, this thing is tiny after using a note 8!
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what did you expect my friend, you went from the biggest of the flagships (note 8) to the smallest! for me, sizes of this xz2 are simply perfect :victory: hate all these new phones that can't be used with one hand

got mine today. Boy its small and beautiful. Got the black color so the front black bezels look narrower. though for the phone is this size, its thick and heavy. the S9 feels kkind of lighter than this. but all in all its great to use a mini phone after ages!

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got mine today. Boy its small and beautiful. Got the black color so the front black bezels look narrower. though for the phone is this size, its thick and heavy. the S9 feels kkind of lighter than this. but all in all its great to use a mini phone after ages!
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yeah the s9 feels more balanced since it has 5gramm less and its bigger so the feeling is a bit different. the xz2c feels like a car with very heavy motor in the middle or back.
wonder if sony have put some bricks inside to make it so heavy.

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what did you expect my friend, you went from the biggest of the flagships (note 8) to the smallest! for me, sizes of this xz2 are simply perfect :victory: hate all these new phones that can't be used with one hand
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i really like how much easier it will be to carry this phone around while wearing shorts; the note 8 is so large and heavy, my shorts wont stay up, and here is Arizona, you wear shorts every day!!
typing on the small keyboard is sort of a pain too, with my big fat fingers so it will take a while to get used to that too..great sound and great display, thats for sure!

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Anything i need to know?

Hey, I just bought this phone, I can't wait for it to arrive, but i just wanted to ask is there anything i need to know?? Any bad issues with this phone? I am going to root and install a custom rom at some point in the near future (if i get round to it).
I'm so excited at this phone is a huge upgrade for me... my last phone was the LG GT540
No issuses with phone othe than speaker not loud as my old phone which I's due to 2.3 which can be fixed once you flash.a custom rom don't keep it stock flash and enjoy cause there's some.really good roms out there that help battery last longer and make the phone prettier to look at. I like coredroid roms but theres also nice rooms that don't use sense ui which was nice to just youtube stuff.
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Bluetooth sucks. Its a design flaw, don't expect good bt performance with this phone. Other than that its great.
For me, and I've heard from others, there is really only 2 things that bother me.
1.) My phone squeaks when you squeeze the bottom part, no idea why.. it's 100% brand new few days old.
2.) When unlocking by moving the ring up, I usually have to touch and drag it 3 times or so until it finally moves...
Otherwise the phone is awesome! The battery can get very hot while gaming though, you can really feel it, I rooted my phone, and it's overclocked so when I play a game for 10+ mins it gets so hot it almost feels like im touching a metal pole that has been in 100 degree heat for an hour.
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DaClowns said:
1.) My phone squeaks when you squeeze the bottom part, no idea why.. it's 100% brand new few days old.
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Apparently people have reported that you can just contact HTC and have them send another unit casing.
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Apparently people have reported that you can just contact HTC and have them send another unit casing.
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It'll always happen as the case is separate from the phone itself. Mine creaks but I really couldn't care less
Mine doesn't creak nearly as much as it used to. So far I have no problems. I did notice the smallest amount of dust particles under the screen but it's literally almost impossible to see. However some people have posted some truly terrible pictures on here showing a crazy amount of dust.
This really is a superb phone.
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Hey, I just bought this phone, I can't wait for it to arrive, but i just wanted to ask is there anything i need to know?? Any bad issues with this phone? I am going to root and install a custom rom at some point in the near future (if i get round to it).
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First off, this is a good phone. But, unfortunately there is a couple of things wrong with it
I have come in direct contact with 5 different Sensations. Here's my experiences:
1. One of them had dust under the screen - I believe this is not an issue with new Sensations.
2. Two had a lousy power button - It becomes too soft and hard to press on some models. Lousy build quality there.
3. Two had the touchscreen issue - This is a serious one, but we have it fixed here on XDA... For the most part. Again, build quality?
4. Three creaked when pressed - My 5 year old nokia felt better under pressure. This is fixable with a larger battery.
5. Screens varied significantly - Don't know which screen I'd pick... Some had better viewing angles, some better contrast, or sharpness, or whatever...
6. Sense lagged more than I'd like on all of them - Maybe I want the impossible? No lag on my 1.5Ghz while scrolling through home screens? :|
7. WiFi death grip - I can live with this one.
I probably went into more detail than I should... Sorry
It's a good phone for the most part. I just expected way more from HTC (and for my money) and now I'm a bit disappointed...

Xperia M2 - Will she fit YOUR bill?

Like in thread, write here what u expect from the Xperia M succesor, and do the things we already know about her (resolution,processor etc.) fit ur bill.
Soooo, let me be first.
On paper she looks quite nice, if she will be cheap enough (up to 300 dollars) im in.
Only thing that im worried about is her screen. I dont want to see xperiaSP quality screen here. This will be low/mid end device, and i shouldnt want too many from it, but still. I think that if sony will do quite good optimalization for it and they will give to her good screen (good, i dont need super mega hiper OMG screen) she will be good option to buy. Dont forget that now her biggest oponent is Moto G which has super performance, nice screen and she is quite cheap, so it will be nice challenge for M2.
Will it be a nice and dev-friendly phone? Write below
Why is m2 considered a lady here :/
doctor_droid said:
Why is m2 considered a lady here :/
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Isn't every phone is?
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doctor_droid said:
Why is m2 considered a lady here :/
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Soryyy, in my lang "xperia" word sounds like a girl
No coz shes price at over 20k
Probably not
It would fit my bill perfectly if only Sony chose to have a replaceable battery instead of a non-removable one. Considering that Android devices are hard on battery life, replaceable batteries is a must IMHO.
Man even the LG L90 offers more features than this phone at 16k but is officially priced at 20k
Press thanks :good: if I've helped :highfive:
What made me consider this brand in first place was having a Sony SW2, and pairing with a Sony handset allows me to use all the features of it, but when i read the spec sheet and found that between other things these handsets are the ones that have ANT+ connectivity that made my day. And €245 in Europe is a reasonably price for a Dual Handset.
I've been reading nearly everywhere that this phone has very low calling volume.
Is this true? Have many users experienced this problem??
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Man even the LG L90 offers more features than this phone at 16k but is officially priced at 20k
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Sure the price per feature is much lower there.
If you hold both phones in your hands the difference in build quality is glaring.
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It would fit my bill perfectly if only Sony chose to have a replaceable battery instead of a non-removable one. Considering that Android devices are hard on battery life, replaceable batteries is a must IMHO.
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I got an M2, despite of being exactly the same opinion. It came with my contract. Lucky, I can report the M2 is quite ok in terms of battery life.
Here is my initial impression:
- acceptable battery
- screen is big but has lower end resolution
- light leaching on black
- relatively dim screen at factory setting, but still very well readable
- glossy housing is a PITA
- reactively heavy
- not nice form factor (as previous curved Xperias)
- not water resistant
- boot up animation is something for kids
- speaker sound is not as good as others
- sound could be louder overall
- loads of bloatware
- card slot cover flimsy, I am counting the days for it to drop off
- main button well articulated and easy to reach at the right location
- volume button to small and should be above the main button
- the nice LED on the bottom does not work, respectively I see it only working when changing the themes ... ?
Would it be so hard for companies to equippe phones with a rubber outside frame for basic drop protection? Why construct everything "throw away" style?
The volume buttons is in the same position as the Z2. If you look at Z2's power button you will be surprise at how convenient M2's power button is. The LED at the bottom also glows when switching songs in Walkman
After 4 days of usage
I found the biggest M2 annoyance is the greenish screen tint. The second biggest annoyance is the light sensor implementation. There is screen brightness pumping. I installed YAAB to correct that. I hope Sony can correct this with a software update (?).
LED at the bottom should be modded to be useful.
Glossy surface is also an annoyance. I ordered a rubber case.
Speaker opening at the bottom is exactly at the spot which I use to position my small finger to support the phone. Seal is perfect. That might be the reason why some people say sound being quiet.
The rest is quite ok. I
The screen tint and light sensor, all true. Also the camera, I often get yellowish shots ( maybe the firmware is the problem, reported to sony forum )
About LED, I agree with you that it should be modded to be of better use
I don't find the glossy back annoying at all
I am right now confussed B/W Xperia m2 and Htc Desire 700.Can you tell me from your experience about this phone Biggest Pros and Cons
By the looks of it, I'm quite satisfied with the phone. It darn fast, and I like it. Camera would be only cons I have so far, but everything else is good. As for camera, it's quite bad for the night shots, but good on the day shots.
Maybe it would bee too much to expect phone of this price to have everything perfect, so I don't mind the camera being bad. Battery is also good. It can last 2 days if phone is not used much.
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By the looks of it, I'm quite satisfied with the phone. It darn fast, and I like it. Camera would be only cons I have so far, but everything else is good. As for camera, it's quite bad for the night shots, but good on the day shots.
Maybe it would bee too much to expect phone of this price to have everything perfect, so I don't mind the camera being bad. Battery is also good. It can last 2 days if phone is not used much.
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Close to three days if I only use for mail, messenging, calls, and the occasional website.
Still close to 48 h with frequent navigation use.
That's certainly not bad compared to most other phones, but target should be 5 - 7 days.
The screen uses astonishing low power. This phone is sure good for travellers. The greenish screen tint gets unnoticed after a while, the camera is reasonable, 4.3 is not good.
I got an Xperia M2 yesterday, and I'm loving it. yes I do have the same sort of greenish/yellow screen tint, but I actually prefer this color reproduction to the harsh blue-tinted display of the original XM. The camera is also a massive improvement from the XM, and the device is quite more responsive. 10/10 worth it
Got mine a fewer days. I already have newer ones Xperia like Z1 and ZQ; a model made from Z1 to Brazil. The M2 at the first moment seems a compact Z2, like the design, the place where buttons are. Weight is good for the size, also it is thin. I think Sony could do a 5inch screen cause there are too much bars arounding the lcd or if they cut, made more a compact device, like they did with ZQ, made it perfect and confortable. The LCD quality is ok, nothing really to be glad like others Xperia but for a mid from Sony i expected more ppi, it has almost less 100 compared to Moto G. Also the glass i didnt like, keeps too easy dust and fingers prints and it isnt too easy to clean. Camera resolution is awful, i wont comment about the VGA cause dont worth it, so i couldn believe that Sony done that, even that old mobiles like Xperia ARC, X10, they have a much better cam. Really dont understand why Sony made such a dummbie phone. Now, the surprise is that came with and old 4.3 JB in times that we are already in 4.4.4 versions. The CPU is good, felt some laggys, nothing really bad but for a quad should make better operations. Volume sound is poor, even with headset, like the equalizer and the multiple options but unfortunatly these couldnt make sounds better. Finally battery isnt nothing especial, mine is with almost 18hours of good usage before a make a new charge cycle. Anyway, my opinions are based that already have the Moto G, a trully competitor and that made really good impressions.

This phone has been available to purchase for one month. Give your thoughts!

I am not disappointed in my purchase. And the development is already extraordinary.
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Lovin every second spent with this device. No complaints on my end.
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Best phone on Verizon right now unless you're a cell phone photographer.
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Best phone I've had in years
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I like it a lot. Not the slightest bit of stuttering yet. I've yet to root because I don't need it yet and I'd like my warranty to last at least a few months. Sadly on stock my ps3 controller OTG doesn't work. Might sound pity but that was a huge letdown.
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I traded my lockeddown galaxy s4 and all its accessories for this phone as soon s-off had been achieved. lucky me that a friend was adding a new line but wanted the s4 and has zero intentions of doing any modifications to the the phone. I am very impressed with this phone my only irritation is that if I have one of my pics set as wallpaper after a restart it's totally zoomed in/resized. this isn't egregious enough for me to actually try and fix though... not that it stays long anyway being flash happy lol.
I am happy with mine. I have a few problems but they are relatively minor.
1. Speaker grills. Make sure you get one that the grills are flush with the glass if you are going to use a screen protector that goes around the speakers.
2. Why in the hell would HTC only put a red/green LED notification light on it???? That is plain stupid.
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I like it a lot. Not the slightest bit of stuttering yet. I've yet to root because I don't need it yet and I'd like my warranty to last at least a few months. Sadly on stock my ps3 controller OTG doesn't work. Might sound pity but that was a huge letdown.
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If you have an XBox 360 controller, they supposedly work via OTG also. I only have a wireless controller (which didn't come with a USB charger cable, or else I lost it) so I can't test it.
As far as the M8....I love it. Development is great, and the M8 itself is a fantastic device. I just wish the radios were a bit stronger. I have frequent issues at my gym with the reception cutting out, which apparently the phone doesn't deal with very well...I have to toggle airplane mode to get data going again, which happens usually 2-3 times during a workout. However, the reception inside my gym is horrible anyway (and it's only slightly better out in the parking lot. usually 1-2 bars, max).
Also, I do feel bad about hiding this beautiful phone inside of a case, but the damn thing is just too slippery...
Terrific phone, best available right now for sure. For a long time I completely undervalued a great stock software experience thinking CM would provide a better experience than, say, touchwiz. I was very wrong. CM on the GS3 was mostly stable, but that's just it... Mostly. It never got to the point of stability that CM7 enjoyed with Gingerbread. Things are different now.
HTC by far has the best stock experience of any manufacturer skin available. I find this experience to be equal to AOSP in my tastes. They did an elegant job.
Quality control/build quality is something I've learned a lot about by having this phone. I don't think I'm going to pit a metal chassis as highly as I did when deciding to go with this phone.
I had to return two of them due to minor imperfections and decided to settle with this one which over time is seeming to degrade dramatically.
- One of the plastic strips on the back is sunken in a bit and yields sharp edges when you run your fingers across it. It also looks bad from certain angles.
- My camera does not sit evenly in its hole. Rather, it's slightly tilted by 5-10 degrees. As far as I can tell this does not affect picture quality but again, feels unpleasant when your finger glides across the camera hole which you will occasionally.
- Speaking about fingers on camera, you'll be wiping it down a bit to clear the smudges. It's indented nature will make it harder to fully clean. Because of this, its easy to scratch the lens. I'm looking into camera lens protectors now.
- As mentioned, the speaker grills are problematic. Mine are mostly flush with the screen, but again, it's that MOSTLY again. On top of that, my bottom grill seems to have minor warping/a wavy surface. Light reflections emphasize this flaw but it's probably the least of my worries.
It's funny how I thought I was getting this phone for it's superior materials and build and ended up feeling unfulfilled in that aspect but being fully enamored with the software. Most of my build flaws are either diminished or not noticeable covered by a case, which I always use a little protection. Because of this, plastic is fine for me in the future if it means more consistent quality and longevity. I don't feel the superior materials when I'm using a case anyway.
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I traded my lockeddown galaxy s4 and all its accessories for this phone as soon s-off had been achieved. lucky me that a friend was adding a new line but wanted the s4 and has zero intentions of doing any modifications to the the phone. I am very impressed with this phone my only irritation is that if I have one of my pics set as wallpaper after a restart it's totally zoomed in/resized. this isn't egregious enough for me to actually try and fix though... not that it stays long anyway being flash happy lol.
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Damn you got so lucky!
I had to sell Note 3 (locked) to get this phone. I also had a One Max in between.
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I am happy with mine. I have a few problems but they are relatively minor.
1. Speaker grills. Make sure you get one that the grills are flush with the glass if you are going to use a screen protector that goes around the speakers.
2. Why in the hell would HTC only put a red/green LED notification light on it???? That is plain stupid.
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1. This is true. My first and second HTC One M7 had bad problems with unevenness.
2. Thats the best part about it. I love it! The HTC One M7 the light was barely noticeable. Now I can see it!
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Terrific phone, best available right now for sure. For a long time I completely undervalued a great stock software experience thinking CM would provide a better experience than, say, touchwiz. I was very wrong. CM on the GS3 was mostly stable, but that's just it... Mostly. It never got to the point of stability that CM7 enjoyed with Gingerbread. Things are different now.
HTC by far has the best stock experience of any manufacturer skin available. I find this experience to be equal to AOSP in my tastes. They did an elegant job.
Quality control/build quality is something I've learned a lot about by having this phone. I don't think I'm going to pit a metal chassis as highly as I did when deciding to go with this phone.
I had to return two of them due to minor imperfections and decided to settle with this one which over time is seeming to degrade dramatically.
- One of the plastic strips on the back is sunken in a bit and yields sharp edges when you run your fingers across it. It also looks bad from certain angles.
- My camera does not sit evenly in its hole. Rather, it's slightly tilted by 5-10 degrees. As far as I can tell this does not affect picture quality but again, feels unpleasant when your finger glides across the camera hole which you will occasionally.
- Speaking about fingers on camera, you'll be wiping it down a bit to clear the smudges. It's indented nature will make it harder to fully clean. Because of this, its easy to scratch the lens. I'm looking into camera lens protectors now.
- As mentioned, the speaker grills are problematic. Mine are mostly flush with the screen, but again, it's that MOSTLY again. On top of that, my bottom grill seems to have minor warping/a wavy surface. Light reflections emphasize this flaw but it's probably the least of my worries.
It's funny how I thought I was getting this phone for it's superior materials and build and ended up feeling unfulfilled in that aspect but being fully enamored with the software. Most of my build flaws are either diminished or not noticeable covered by a case, which I always use a little protection. Because of this, plastic is fine for me in the future if it means more consistent quality and longevity. I don't feel the superior materials when I'm using a case anyway.
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-Plastic Strips: Wow, that does blow. After you mentioned that I tested mine to see if they were like yours. Not at all. Completely smooth. You cannot detect a variance in height variance. Even while running my fingernail over them.
- Camera fit: I inspected mine; Perfect symmetry.
- Speaker grills. I know this issue well because of M7. I got lucky on this one because that offset drove me insane.
TBH: with all the little tweaks your phone has... It sounds like it has been dropped or twisted. Yes it could be bad build quality as well but I would really hate to think that.
is there any way you can exchange yours? Mine is near perfect, its sad to see yours is so... crappy.
scrosler said:
-Plastic Strips: Wow, that does blow. After you mentioned that I tested mine to see if they were like yours. Not at all. Completely smooth. You cannot detect a variance in hight however, as suspected the material feels different but not unexpected
- Camera fit: I inspected mine as well. Perfect symmetry.
- Speaker grills. I know this issue well because of M7. I got lucky on this one because that offset drove me insane.
TBH: with all the little tweaks your phone has... It sounds like it has been dropped or twisted. Yes it could be bad build quality as well but I would really hate to think that.
is there any way you can exchange yours? Mine is near perfect, its sad to see yours is so... crappy.
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Yeah I just got unlucky but oh well I'll live. The first time it was a tiny crack in the corner, the second time was a bump on the bottom speaker grill and was tired of replacing so I decided to just live with the third. I feel like it's punishment for being so picky or something lol
I'm past the 14 day return window but even if I wasn't I was tired of bothering the people at the Verizon store. It's a third party one and they were really nice and helped me keep my unlimited data, so I felt like I was being a hassle. It's also my fault for not examining it close enough to notice the crooked camera, even when they were insisting that I deeply inspect it before going with it.
No drops at all either. I've had it in a case practically since I got it as well. Hell maybe it's the case's fault (for the plastic bands, at least). Sounds like you got lucky, I figure it's just my turn to have some quirks as I've been pretty lucky with tech up to this point. Honestly I'm probably making them sound a lot worse than they actually are too.
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2. Thats the best part about it. I love it! The HTC One M7 the light was barely noticeable. Now I can see it!
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Well I am having that problem with this phone. It is barely noticeable. But I am coming from a Moto RAZR MAXX with a large LED that is capable of multiple colors. I had lightflow set to use blue/white mostly. Some yellow. I guess the main reason I am *****ing is because I am red/green color blind. I can't tell the difference in the colors they offer (red/green)
I don't expect special treatment, but WHY do companies CONTINUE to offer colors that are not visible/distinguishable by about 10% of the population? Why not just use easily distinguishable colors? Like Blue and Yellow.
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I'm happy with mine. I don't see any of the flaws mentioned here or anywhere else for that matter. Camera, speaker grills, screen, they are all as they should be. As far as I can see anyway. I love this phone.
That said, I do have one and only one beef about it. The notification LED. No, not that it's not bright enough or the colors available. It's that it only stays on for 5 minutes or so. I'll admit I haven't spent a whole bunch of time searching for an answer but I've spent enough and have yet to come up with a way to make it stay on until I've looked at whatever it is it's notifying me about. Sounds like it's been this way a bit for HTC for a while though. This is my first HTC phone and I'm used to picking up the phone and seeing that light flash. Regardless of how long ago it's been since I've received a call, text or whatever. I'd much prefer to be able to just glance at the phone and see if anything's happening as opposed to having to pick it up and turn on the screen.
I suppose they do it for battery savings. Don't know. But, I find it hard to believe that turning that little diode off after 5 minutes saves anything worth saving. It's not like it's going to be 2 days before I look at it. That said, I can't blame it on the phone. It's HTC's software that comes into play there.
Anyway, other than that, I'm a happy camper.
Yes, yes I did.. get lucky with obtaining this phone. ???
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Yeah I just got unlucky but oh well I'll live. The first time it was a tiny crack in the corner, the second time was a bump on the bottom speaker grill and was tired of replacing so I decided to just live with the third. I feel like it's punishment for being so picky or something lol
I'm past the 14 day return window but even if I wasn't I was tired of bothering the people at the Verizon store. It's a third party one and they were really nice and helped me keep my unlimited data, so I felt like I was being a hassle. It's also my fault for not examining it close enough to notice the crooked camera, even when they were insisting that I deeply inspect it before going with it.
No drops at all either. I've had it in a case practically since I got it as well. Hell maybe it's the case's fault (for the plastic bands, at least). Sounds like you got lucky, I figure it's just my turn to have some quirks as I've been pretty lucky with tech up to this point. Honestly I'm probably making them sound a lot worse than they actually are too.
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Just a follow up to this and a warning to any others out there, I managed to reset my camera lens to a very level angle (maybe 0.5-1 degrees off still) by pressing gently but firmly down on the raised side.
I think what may have happened is I pressed down a little too hard when cleaning the lens, causing it to become uneven. So be gentle when you wipe down your camera lens!
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Definitely happy with my purchased of the M8. 1 flaw we all kno Wat that is but besides that I pleased . Not one lag unlock boot loaders s-off can't get no better. And 6 sense smooth no delays waiting for apps to open.
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Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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If you get a GS5, make sure you get one with a good camera. They are failing miserably. LOL
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/samsung-to-replace-galaxy-s5-phones-affected-by-faulty-84127046184.html
xmoox said:
Not so sure if I'm happy with mine yet. I am not liking this camera and it might be a deal breaker. I like being able to zoom and crop photos and the resolution is just too low. Also I don't notice any improvement with low light shots. Right now I'm debating about getting a gs5. Trying to figure out if I still want to mod my phone. I had a rezound which I enjoyed flashing.
The strengths of this phone
1. Very smooth and responsive.
2. Phone speakers sound great.
3. Overall audio quality is good
4. Very refined sense.
5. Cut and paste texting(sense feature).
6. Great front facing camera
7. Sd slot
8. Soff and root
9. Remote
10.gestures! I love the tap to wake
The bad
1. Poor camera
2. Non removable battery(not a huge deal but nice to have)
3. I don't feel the aluminum body is very rugged and will show drops or scratches very pronounced.
4. Slippery why aluminum if I have to buy a case anyway.
5. When I hold it I get the feeling it's premium but it also feels fragile.
6. Battery life isn't what I expected.(I've only had the phone for a week so I think it's still working itself out.)
Overall good phone but camera ruins it.
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There was recently a leaked photo of a Verizon Xperia Z2. I'd sooner get a Z2 than a GS5.
I agree with many of your points though I just don't think anyone should have to deal with the horror that is Touchwiz.
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Of course, the One (M8) isn't a phone that's going to be to everyone's tastes. It's amazing product, the camera is fantastic and the battery has improved a bit and also with its with it's stunning design, this with the price. Everything I'm looking for a smartphone, its already here! Since I bought my M8, I did embrace and love it since then.

The chin...

Does anyone LIKE the size of the chin? I found myself instantly pleased with the added area to handle my phone. I actually left the sim in my 5x for a while to be sure. But I've never noticed how much I use the top and bottom bezels in portrait view. Especially when. Showing someone pictures or portrait videos. I dunno... I'm loving it. Perfect size where my thumbs never bumps the touchscreen.
Am I the only one?
I have no problem with it either. Take a look at the iPhone 6, which I have, and the bezel is about the same size as the Pixel. Actually the whole phone looks similar with a very similar feel. The Pixel is a little larger screen dimension wise but both are beautiful devices. And let's be honest here, if you can compare to an iPhone you're saying something. This device is a jewel if the battery can hold up.
I just got my Pixel today, and I wish the chin was a bit smaller to be honest. The onscreen buttons take up a good chunk of space that I feel makes it look a bit...iPodish? That's for sure not an accurate assessment, but it is what I think when I look at the chin of the phone especially. Like I said, first day and all. I love everything else about this phone though. I even think the price is justifiable.
I actually like the chin too. I find it helps my thumb reach the home button much more comfortably when using it one handed, rather than over extending my thumb to reach the bottom of my phone.
Plus it gives the phone a very minimal/elegant look. So no complaints from me!
No complaints here! Keeps the phone looking balanced
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I like the large chin. Im with you, I think its nice for handling the phone.
Zer0_ said:
I actually like the chin too. I find it helps my thumb reach the home button much more comfortably when using it one handed, rather than over extending my thumb to reach the bottom of my phone.
Plus it gives the phone a very minimal/elegant look. So no complaints from me!
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Yes same here... While at first I thought it was huge and unsightly, when I think about it, I wouldn't want my thumb to have to reach any further down to get to the nav bar. It keeps the nav bar at a perfect height. Still seems kind of boring though. But I'm also glad they didn't put any branding there so kind of a conundrum for me.
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I dont mind the bottom too. It's not super noticeable and I agree that it makes the nav bar easier to reach.
I just wish people would stop calling it a "chin" - it's a bezel, not a chin. Look at the original G1 for a "chin".
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I have no problem with it either. Take a look at the iPhone 6, which I have, and the bezel is about the same size as the Pixel. Actually the whole phone looks similar with a very similar feel. The Pixel is a little larger screen dimension wise but both are beautiful devices. And let's be honest here, if you can compare to an iPhone you're saying something. This device is a jewel if the battery can hold up.
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Totally... A lot of people seem to want this phone to be the opposite of iPhone. But we already had that... The Nexus lineup. Sure some were better than others but they were never trying to compete with anyone directly. Just good enough with a great price.
mmaaddict78 said:
I just got my Pixel today, and I wish the chin was a bit smaller to be honest. The onscreen buttons take up a good chunk of space that I feel makes it look a bit...iPodish? That's for sure not an accurate assessment, but it is what I think when I look at the chin of the phone especially. Like I said, first day and all. I love everything else about this phone though. I even think the price is justifiable.
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Just got mine last night. And I honestly looked at it and said 'why is everyone complaining about the chin?' to my girlfriend.
I agree, I am totally satisfied with the price now that the phone is in hand. Speed/Feel is amazing.
Zer0_ said:
I actually like the chin too. I find it helps my thumb reach the home button much more comfortably when using it one handed, rather than over extending my thumb to reach the bottom of my phone.
Plus it gives the phone a very minimal/elegant look. So no complaints from me!
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I never noticed that the home button was more comfortable on the Pixel until I used my 5X and Pixel side by side.. thanks for pointing that out! Of course I can't say much about the XL cause I didn't get that one.
brangalm said:
I dont mind the bottom too. It's not super noticeable and I agree that it makes the nav bar easier to reach.
I just wish people would stop calling it a "chin" - it's a bezel, not a chin. Look at the original G1 for a "chin".
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HAH. I've been Androiding since the G1... and yea, that thing had a Joe Swanson Chin for real.
I just joined the chin lingo cause everyone else seemed to be doing it... Peer pressure!
this is #13 of a long list of reasons i'm returning the Pixel. this phone makes so little sense to me i cannot even wrap my head around it, probably because i don't talk TO my damn phone. leave the AI for the kiddos. going back to my ****ing galaxy S3. maybe HTC 10 after that. dunno.
Now that I have my phone, in person, I don't mind it. I prefer balance/symmetry and the chin provides that. I would prefer a speaker there instead, but oh well …
The chin I actually don't notice. Maybe it's because I have the 5' black version. To me, the chin makes it better for one handed use. The galaxy s7 was hard for one handed use for me anyway. I think the chin thing is really blown out of proportion. Just my two cents.
In theory I'd like to see a smaller chin/ bezel and increase the screen size while keeping the overall size the same.
In practice, I don't mind the chin. I don't notice it at all.
I hear y'all but that Jay Leno chin and fivhead are fails to me. I do appreciate all the reasons why you like them but the could have put like 8 speakers in that space. Subs, tweeters and all that! Still love the phone though.
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Looks weird I'd rather have it to help with holding the phone and keeping the navbar at a decent height
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The bottom bezel adds balance, symmetry and consistency to the device.
I am still upset it gave up the speaker grill. But sure look uber minimalistic.
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troy` said:
Does anyone LIKE the size of the chin? I found myself instantly pleased with the added area to handle my phone. I actually left the sim in my 5x for a while to be sure. But I've never noticed how much I use the top and bottom bezels in portrait view. Especially when. Showing someone pictures or portrait videos. I dunno... I'm loving it. Perfect size where my thumbs never bumps the touchscreen.
Am I the only one?
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Jay approves..
daewond3r said:
Now that I have my phone, in person, I don't mind it. I prefer balance/symmetry and the chin provides that. I would prefer a speaker there instead, but oh well …
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subhani said:
The bottom bezel adds balance, symmetry and consistency to the device.
I am still upset it gave up the speaker grill. But sure look uber minimalistic.
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Totally agree with both of you. I think it really adds the balance. When I saw it at first I wondered, but once I used it I don't mind a bit. I use headphones so I dont care about huge speakers.
Coming from the BB Z30 I am use to the chin and prefer it becuase of the way I hold the phone and navigate with my thumb. Now if only google would pick up a bb 10 device and take down some notes. Like moving things down low so I dont have to stretch my hand to the top.
twilk73 said:
Coming from the BB Z30 I am use to the chin and prefer it becuase of the way I hold the phone and navigate with my thumb. Now if only google would pick up a bb 10 device and take down some notes. Like moving things down low so I dont have to stretch my hand to the top.
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Same here, I only use my phones one-handed, whether it's the Pixel, Notes, iPhone 7+, etc. The extra space is where my palm digs into. The BlackBerry Classic is the only device I have to use two hands, but da*n, that physical keyboard is sooo worth it.

Worst xperia ever..

Returned this phone. Why?
Having come from z3 , was expecting vast improvement.
Too heavy, absolute brick. Infact I swear you would get RSI from holding it too long.
Speakers, nasty , distorted at high volume. Maybe just mine, but shop said loads of them returned.
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ2/Broken-XZ2-audio-speaker/td-p/1313319#gref
No 3.5 headphone jack. Nuff said.
No FM radio.
Its spins when on flat desk, even with case!!
Fingerprint scanner in totally wrong place.
Really poor design.
Really? U din't check before buying?
Complain by Sony and not here !! -__-
I also came from Z3. I have to say that it is a major improvement over Z3.
As a matter of fact, we recognize haters because they always start a new thread instead of posting in the already existing threads... :laugh:
Yeah, the hate is getting way out of proportion.
Many of them who hated this phone never even see the phone in person.
i loathed the design when i saw the first press release fotos...
It looks way better if you hold it in your hands than compared to fotos.
Still could be better.
P.S Someone already reported the thread and asked for moving to Q&A ?
Please close this useless thread !
I came from a z3 and it's a nice big leap in performance. Fingerprint sensor is not in the prefect place but I don't have an issue using it, speakers just fine none of the issues done have. I'm not a fan of the shape out of a case, it's a stupid back and far too slippery, but add I use a case it's not really an issue.
Overall I'm happy.
Next time do a little research before investing so much in a phone. That's not sarcasm, it's common sense.
fingerprint is in my case at the right place. I'm left handed. Came from the Z5. Overall I love the phone. I only hate the backcover and its "feature". to spin it.
chero90 said:
fingerprint is in my case at the right place. I'm left handed. Came from the Z5. Overall I love the phone. I only hate the backcover and its "feature". to spin it.
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I am right handed, and I agree, just the right place. Could never understand people hating on the placement. It's not the same place as other phones. But I like it where it is. The speakers are amazing! And I love the screen. Overall a beautiful phone. The only reason I didn't keep it, is because I work out in the country where T-mobiles service is borderline. Having a phone with great reception is a must for me. And this phone is just average. Really loved everything else about it.
freestyleHTC said:
Returned this phone. Why?
Having come from z3 , was expecting vast improvement.
Too heavy, absolute brick. Infact I swear you would get RSI from holding it too long.
Speakers, nasty , distorted at high volume. Maybe just mine, but shop said loads of them returned.
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ2/Broken-XZ2-audio-speaker/td-p/1313319#gref
No 3.5 headphone jack. Nuff said.
No FM radio.
Its spins when on flat desk, even with case!!
Fingerprint scanner in totally wrong place.
Really poor design.
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I'm able to hold the phone during hours without any pain, the curved back is a great improvement.
My speakers work without any distortion even at maximum level.
You have a dongle in the box the plug your headphones, 10 more cm at the end of your headphones jack doesn't matter.
FM radio is discontinued since a long time.
I've added a back screen protector, the phone doesn't spin anymore and isn't slippery neither.
Fingerprint scanner could have been placed a little bit higher but after a week of use, that's not a problem anymore.
Design is my taste.
But why did you buy the phone of you don't like it? Were you forced buy someone?
niaboc79 said:
I'm able to hold the phone during hours without any pain, the curved back is a great improvement.
My speakers work without any distortion even at maximum level.
You have a dongle in the box the plug your headphones, 10 more cm at the end of your headphones jack doesn't matter.
FM radio is discontinued since a long time.
I've added a back screen protector, the phone doesn't spin anymore and isn't slippery neither.
Fingerprint scanner could have been placed a little bit higher but after a week of use, that's not a problem anymore.
Design is my taste.
But why did you buy the phone of you don't like it? Were you forced buy someone?
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Exactly 100% agree and same meaning what i have ^^
XZ2 is perfect and no issues or problems or something to complain at all
Agreed, those who complained about XZ2 either haven't use the phone and just listened to what haters said or have a faulty device.
I have no complaint about this phone. Perfectly placed fps for aesthetics and ergonomics, lack of 3.5 mm headphone jack is a pity but I can tolerate it, and the design and ergonomics are fantastic.
For me missing is only noice canceling feature in XZ2 or other new line of xperia
This lcd on xz2 is a blurry crap with lines on the screen if surface is hot and you move finger fast. Crap.
Nothing wrong on my LCD screen even when hot surface.
michal89chz said:
This lcd on xz2 is a blurry crap with lines on the screen if surface is hot and you move finger fast. Crap.
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Its the sharpest lcd screen in a phone at the moment what the xz2 have so maybe there is something wrong with your eyes !!
Pandemic said:
Its the sharpest lcd screen in a phone at the moment what the xz2 have so maybe there is something wrong with your eyes !!
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Sharpest?
My Nexus 6 had more dpi.
MartinX3 said:
Sharpest?
My Nexus 6 had more dpi.
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And can u see any difference?

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