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I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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same too me, I tried it over 3.1, what I experienced:
- browser little bit slower
- more SOD
- nothing real extra feature
I have to use a custom rom for a couple of reasons:
1) My stock rom is the Chinese verison, which means no google apps or google sync. Without google, it's just not android.
2) I need the Chinese input methods. I would normally switch to the USA stock rom, but it doesn't have Chinese input. Prime does/did, Chinese handwriting input is MIA, but I'll sure it will be taken care of.
I choose to use a custom rom for these reasons:
3) I don't like excess crap on my computer. I can modify a custom rom before I install it, mostly just removing apps that I will never use.
4) Root! I love freedom on my computer. Root lets me do things. All kinds of neat things: block ads, increase speed on sd card, delete/modify system apps and directories, and lots more. Look into it, it is fun.
5) Overclock. Prime doesn't have it, but you can add a kernal that does. I currently don't overclock, but as the Tegra 2 ages, i will overclock it. I'm specifically waiting for a rom with a high GPU overclock. There is one out there that currently does have a minor GPU overclock.
6) Clockwork Recovery. Backup, restore, switch roms, clear cache and more.
Why I choose Prime:
7) Dock battery meter in the taskbar.
8) Reboot/recovery options for power button.
After looking through the current selection of roms available, I choose Prime. But I keep my eye on revolver and Clemsyn.
bobloadmire said:
I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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How do you not? OP clearly states that there are optimizations made to increase load times etc etc.
No, op states "better user experience" which is very vague. Also I'm not having any slow load times, everything is pretty zippy.
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bobloadmire said:
I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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Last time I flashed a Tom he punched me in the face...
One reason I haven't seen mentioned would also be themes, but it is still early in the game, there are few options. Custom Roms are generally just optimized better, though the Transformer doesn't have nearly the bloat some Android devices have making them almost essential...
Honestly once you learn, it is such an easy process that flashing different roms/kernels and trying them is the only real way to know what is best for you and your usage.
bobloadmire said:
No, op states "better user experience" which is very vague. Also I'm not having any slow load times, everything is pretty zippy.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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The reason im asking is so i dont miss out on anything and obviously im looking for empiracle data to help me understand any performance benefits.
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zephiK said:
Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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Wow...
He asked what was the difference between stock and Prime, and you went off in another direction. He wasn't asking to be "begged" into using Prime nor asking for others to convince him into using Prime at all.
Anyways, I know Prime has a few optimizations, but I don't know if it brings any substantial changes. There's a link to download the power/recovery mod, so I suppose it could be applied to any ROM including rooted stock.
One reason I would like to root my tf101 is to be able to use a USB dongle. But I am waiting for 3.2 to come out before since I just got my tf101.
The stock version is pretty good actually. No major complaints so far.
I hav ebeen using Prime for a while but ASUS stock version is definitely quite good. Even more so for lack of garbageware that so plagues the mobile phones...
Yea I guess I'm in the same camp. I haven't seen a compelling reason to move to a different ROM versus rooted stock. There are too many posts that seem to lead users to believe that a different ROM is the same as root. Remember you can root the stock ROM. The OP is asking what user experience enhancements make Prime (or any other ROM) compelling.
If you read changelog second post it will tell you exactly what's new in the ROM. Many changes are only useful for experienced linux users, but many others are useful for everyone. The nice thing about roms is that most of the things and tweaks are already done for you. If you don't need/care about those changes then there is no point for you to reflash.
Which BXX mod did you get ?
I'm curious because I'm thinking of picking up one of these today ( the guy at Orifice Depot tried to get me to buy an Iconia, but that thing doesn't have anywhere near the support the TF is getting...)....?
Manufacturer's (ASUS included) have to be very careful about their ROM releases so they are thoroughly tested and ready to release to the general public. Consequently they are slower to release updates (i.e. NVidia updates, etc.). Custom ROMs generally consolidate the best and latest releases from various manufacturer's into the most cuttest edge versions you can possibly be running. As you'll notice this can also mean more lock-ups and weird issues since you are getting just-available changes. So if you prefer max stability, stick with the manufacturer's updates. For many of us part of the fun of owning an Android tablet is the rapid pace that custom ROMs are put out and the interesting/quirky things they bring us.
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I'm curious because I'm thinking of picking up one of these today ( the guy at Orifice Depot tried to get me to buy an Iconia, but that thing doesn't have anywhere near the support the TF is getting...)....?
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I got a B60 TF and a B60 dock from my local OD this past weekend (Denver, CO).
Prime Vs Stock
Reason why I flashed the Prime Rom. With Prime and a netflix patch I'm able to stream netflix movie. Also now Adhoc connections work. I can Wifi tehther my TF101 with my Driod using the adhoc connection. I can now easily reboot into recovery prior to this going into recovery was a bit tricky. This was not possible even with HC 3.2. Also I don't have to worry about losing root becuase of an OTA update.
I am actually a flashaholic when it comes to flashing roms on my phone. But so far, I haven't come across any compelling reasons to flash custom roms on my transformer. The need to flash roms on phones offer benefits that are non existant on a tablet. For instance, one major reason to flash custom roms on phones is to enable free wifi tethering, which obviously does not apply here. Another reason, as stated above is to remove bloatware. The transformer doesn't really have that. And yet another reason is to be able to update to the latest Android version before the official release. Correct me if i'm wrong but when I looked, the 3.2 update came out officially before any transformer custom roms had it. There are a couple more minor customizations options that I'm not seeing yet being offered by the transformer roms. I am fully aware of the speed enhancements and optimizations that custom roms offer, but considering the custom roms for the transformer are still relatively new (no disrespect or discredit to the devs for their hard work), and considering that even still now, the rooting and flashing methods keep getting outdated and changed, it's too early in this ballgame for me to flash.
I've been lurking the forums here now for a month and finally pulled the trigger, my TF get's here monday.
I have yet to see any reason to flash a custom rom or even root at this point. I'll be rooting it just to say it's rooted and just for a couple of root only programs I have. The custom roms don't really bring anything to the table that this tablet doesn't have. it has the newest version of android with all the bells and whistles. I'm not going to be overclocking. I understand netflix is big for some people, but, from what I have read flashing the fix breaks some video playback. I'm ok to wait for the official netflix patch. A 32gb MicroSD and the 16gb on board space is plenty to store movies on for travel etc. I also have a server I run at home that will stream my entire movie,. TV, and music collections directly to me.
Having the best of the best and the most up to date version of android does have it's perks
i have been an owner of the Transformer for just under a week, to be honest i think its a let down.
Internet experience is slow and jerky, flash takes a while to speed up. (Ive tried all browsers)
N64iod runs better and faster on my xperia play (which is a 1 core processor)
Some games seem to re-download every time i run them.
Cant play 720p with HW enabled with SW there slow.
Live wallpapers slow down the OS, my Xperia doesn't!
I could go on.
I know the OS is relatively new, but i cant buy that. The tablet cost me £415 with dock, If i was a normal customer, (the everyday user) i would take it back to the shop as i would think it was broke.
My last point is the constant crashes, it even locked up while trying to shut down.
So please please please tell me there is an answer, i so want to like it, as the concept is brill, i based buying this on my xperia play, i love the os, but honeycomb maybe the problem here!
Cheers.
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i have been an owner of the Transformer for just under a week, to be honest i think its a let down.
Internet experience is slow and jerky, flash takes a while to speed up. (Ive tried all browsers)
N64iod runs better and faster on my xperia play (which is a 1 core processor)
Some games seem to re-download every time i run them.
Cant play 720p with HW enabled with SW there slow.
Live wallpapers slow down the OS, my Xperia doesn't!
I could go on.
I know the OS is relatively new, but i cant buy that. The tablet cost me £415 with dock, If i was a normal customer, (the everyday user) i would take it back to the shop as i would think it was broke.
My last point is the constant crashes, it even locked up while trying to shut down.
So please please please tell me there is an answer, i so want to like it, as the concept is brill, i based buying this on my xperia play, i love the os, but honeycomb maybe the problem here!
Cheers.
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First of all, what android version and firmware build are you running and are you rooted? Secondly, have you performed any OTA updates since you bought your TF? Before I installed a custom rom on my TF, I myself have experienced serious lag and slow down due to multiple OTA updates. As with any pc based platform, its typically best to do a full wipe and perform a clean install to have it running at its peak. Before I took the route of a custom rom, i did a full wipe and fresh install and could immediately tell the difference in speed. So my suggestion is that you take that route first. Also, if you are interested in rooting and installing a custom rom, be advised that starting with the B70 revision, ASUS changed and locked down the bootloaders and they are currently unrootable at this time...which means you won't be able to install a custom rom. Find your S/N and if it starts with B70 or higher, then you won't be able to root at this time.
I have not had to many FCs, either stock or on Prime. Most times that I get any problems at all are in the stock browser, and usually thenjust a matter of slowness and the occasional "FC or Wait" prompt; particuarlly on more 'involved' web pages. Loading pages are also fairly sloow at times but still faster than my phone. My phone uses Opera for tremendous inprovement over it's stock browser.
Don't know about the 720p, haven't tried and don't know what program you used. Out of box is rather minimal audio/video playback as far as I noticed.
General performance wise, this thing beats a number of x86 systems I've had, espiecally while compiling C/C++ code.
If it's not something closer to the hardware, doing an nvflash to a custom rom might be worth trying but it can be an irk to deal with nuking everythiing you have stored, backups or no.
Internet experience is slow and jerky, flash takes a while to speed up. (Ive tried all browsers)
Latest Flash, Latest Browser (3.2.1) - runs good.
N64iod runs better and faster on my xperia play (which is a 1 core processor)
I have this issue, too - probably Tegra2 related (OCing may help?)
Some games seem to re-download every time i run them.
What games? Never noticed it.
Cant play 720p with HW enabled with SW there slow.
Get DicePlayer - best player around, supports HW acceleration and 720p is good as well (compared to others) - thanks to tegra2 plugins. Not free tough.
Live wallpapers slow down the OS, my Xperia doesn't!
Higher resoltioun and tegra2 issue AFAIK (might be wrong).
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Strange how some people experience things that most others don't. Weird. But anyway, you should return your TF. Get a proven product like an ipad 2.
goodintentions said:
Strange how some people experience things that most others don't. Weird. But anyway, you should return your TF. Get a proven product like an ipad 2.
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Ok troll. Your kind isn't welcome here unless you own a TF and can offer solutions other than being apple fan boy. This is not the thread you are looking for. You can go about your business. Move along...move along...
cheers for all the suggestions, i have got the latest updates and firmware.
i will check my serial when i get home.
for video playback ive been using mobo and mx player
games which redownload everytome are reckless getaway and the spaceship one which i cant remember the name lol its for tegra 2 and its free
if i decide on a custom rom i take it its purely personal preference? i fancy revolution for the ota tools
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You are correct, custom roms are always going to end up being preference. If you are able to root, the best way to start off this endeavor is to visit the posts of all 3 major roms for the TF in the development section. Find out what each rom offers, and make your decision based off of that. You can always try out each rom to see which one you like better.
My choices are limited now
checked my serial and its B70.
Looks like i'm stuck with stock until asus / google sort my issues.
One last question?
i here good things about opera, but i dont like the way it loads (waiting for the page to load before displaying) is there anyway to disable this feature?
Sometimes you just want to click on a link i dont really want the whole page to load!
Asus changed the bootloader not too long after they started making the B70 revisions. So there is a very small window of chance that your TF can be rooted. You can always try, but the chances are slim. I can't answer your Opera question...I don't use Opera.
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i here good things about opera, but i dont like the way it loads (waiting for the page to load before displaying) is there anyway to disable this feature?
Sometimes you just want to click on a link i dont really want the whole page to load!
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There is no option for this in Opera Mobile; I should know, it's what I use off the phone next to me .
Opera Mini is probably the same, but I would highly doubt it would support that feature even if it wasn't.
@blonqe: I posted something similar and goodintentions replied the same way... he has down syndrome, bless his heart...
Anyway, just accept you got suckered in to all this EEE Fad, iFad marketing BS. The Tegra 2 is a $5 PoS SoC... kind of like the PoS Atom CPU.
Tabs are fairly useless, but you wanted to waste some money
Oh if you disable flash in the stock browser it's speed is good.
I'm stuck with stock too ... REALLY FARKING pisses me off that I'm locked out of my own device.
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Ok troll. Your kind isn't welcome here unless you own a TF and can offer solutions other than being apple fan boy. This is not the thread you are looking for. You can go about your business. Move along...move along...
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Lol, this man has made the greatest mod to his TF!
But yeah, try running a custom rom (if you can) and see if your problems are still present. If so, contact Asus and maybe they will give you a replacement, could simple be some hardware malfunctions.
well i tried to root using the all in one tool, when trying to backup and root i kept getting an error cannot boot to pad or something like that, so for now ive had to admit defeat and wait for some bright spark to hopefully crack the new bootloader :-(
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Just wanted to bump my original thread to say after alot of complaing from me i can now say i am a proud owner of the Asus Transformer TF101.
Thanks to the fact i can now root and install custom roms.
After a few weeks of trial and error, i tried, revolver, Prime and KRAKD.
The latter for me was easily the best so so smooth, OC 1.504 i tried same on the other Roms, but with KRAKD i had no issues and its just so much quicker in my opinion.
One issue that exists in all the custom roms is that the xbox controller doesn't work until you change the kernel. Weird.
Brwosing is more of a joy and with ICS on its way my tablet experience is looking up!
Still tempted by windows 8 but we will wait and see.
Glad to hear everything worked out.
If you have a PS3, you should be able to use a Sigaxis controller using the Sigaxis application on the market as well.
I probably could have asked this in another thread but I figured this would be best as I have some specific questions.
I have a TF101 and the keyboard dock, so I'll need a ROM that's compatible, I still need complete access to the Play Store for my classes and such and need to be able to easily revert to stock to undo anything so I can still use my Best Buy warranty (I'm really rough on electronics, other than Desktops) for the battery and should any woeful accident befall it and it need to be repaired or replaced.
I'd like to be able to overclock it at least a little bit.
Installation shouldn't be a big deal I had to do some workarounds to get it rooted the first time which included using a slightly altered TF101G Stock Firmware, though it made my TF101 think it was a TF101G, which I believe I have fixed when I installed 4.0.3. It doesn't think it's a WW SKU instead of US anymore at any rate.
If you need more details as to my hardware I suppose I can try to take a picture of or list the information on the sticker on the back.
The current versions listed under about tablet are as follows.
Model: TF101
Android: 4.0.3
GPS: V6.9.12
Wi-Fi: V6.1.1.24
Bluetooth: V8.30
Touch Panel: MXT-1.1 build 1
Kernel: 2.6.39.4 [email protected] #1
IML74K.US_epad-9.21.24-20120503
MobileDock: EP101-0213
The firmware is from the ASUS site and is the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 Firmware: V9.2.1.24 Only for US SKU (Android 4.0.3) and rooted using OneClick Recovery thanks DOOM!
Oh just some background info on the types of things I'll be running or in some cases hope to run.
I'll be running x264, FLAC, things such as coursesmart, kingsoft office, aldiko, etc.
I'd love to be able to run 10-bit x264 video (I don't see why it couldn't run it)
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Honestly, I think you should flash any of the slightly older non-jellybean roms if you want something more stable. I'm using AOSP's jellybean thing, and it's a little force closey on me with stuff, but I like messing with new stuff. So, basically, just try CM9 for now.
Well I'd prefer dock support over stability if it came down to it. Cyanogenmod 9 is the cornerstone yeah?
Also is the image verification thing just for new members or does it not go away?
I realize this posting is going to be asking a lot of questions but I hope the thread will be helpful to everyone suffering with the awful ICS update series on the ASUS TF101. So please: if you have specific knowledge and experience, think of the large community of suffering TF101 owners and help them remedy the problem. Because it is apparent that ASUS has abandoned us.
BACKGROUND
I have a TF101 and I am disgusted with how badly ASUS has handled the development/testing/rollout of ICS. There's no point in being fast to market if you're going to put out crap that destabilizes your hardware!
- If I only had the easy choice of keeping the latest OTA (at the moment .27) or returning to Honeycomb, I would do the latter. It didn't crash. And it responded crisply to touches. But part of ASUS idiocy is not providing a backwards migration path even though they have ample evidence that they have a shoddy ICS ROM.
I realize, before asking, that there are a lot of combinations and permutations to what you folks might recommend. But let me help you to understand what I am seeking at the end of the migration:
First off about me: I have prior experience rooting and replacing ROM's. (Nexus One now runs CM 7.1. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" GT-P1000 now running CM9.) But I would not describe myself as an experienced or confident person-- I suppose it would help if all Android devices used the same tools and procedures for performing the migration.
Bottom Line: I am capable of following instructions and I am comfortable with CWM flashing once I have a rooted device with CWM.
My criteria:
Stability:
I want highest possible stability- I am realistic; I realize that the ASUS TF101 is already cursed. But I would settle for one crash every couple of days.
Smooth performance:
Under .27 stock, there is a ridiculously slow response to touch events. My single core first generation Samsung 7" performs faster!
Ungimmicky:
I don't need flashy special features built into the ROM. I'd be happy with something that stays reasonably close to the vanilla Android ICS experience.
(If it helps, I am fairly pleased with the CM9 implementation on my ancient Samsung 7".)
What I Use TF101 For:
- Slingplayer Mobile
- Video files (.avi, .mp4, .mpg, .flv, .mkv)
- Reading: PressReader, Pulse, Flipboard
- Occasionally using an Office-type suite and/or Google Drive docs
What I Don't Want or Need
- Games
- ASUS "value added" bloatware apps
Questions:
- What are the important differences between the various CM9 implementations?
I see there are at least two CM9 implementations for the TF101. (Which may or may not be the same as the one posted at the CyanogenMod site:
http://get.cm/?device=tf101&type=stable
- I have done some reading about Revolver and Overcome. But I am not sure whether these are a better choice than CM9. Are they more reliable because they are based on the stock ROM?
(Remember that I don't want or need any ASUS apps.)
- So let's start with the important question: based on my needs and desire for a quick move to a rooted, stable, ICS TF101, which ROM should I use?
- Which kernel and version number should I flash to accompany that particular ROM?
- Is there a guide (either here on XDA or elsewhere) that will take me from stock, unrooted ICS .27 to installing CWM?
- A bonus would be if it took me all the way to flashing the final ROM, but this is not essential
One last point: I already understand the idea that CWM would let me try out various ROMs. And I am comfortable doing that if I am not happy with my first choice.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
goattee said:
I realize this posting is going to be asking a lot of questions but I hope the thread will be helpful to everyone suffering with the awful ICS update series on the ASUS TF101. So please: if you have specific knowledge and experience, think of the large community of suffering TF101 owners and help them remedy the problem. Because it is apparent that ASUS has abandoned us.
BACKGROUND
I have a TF101 and I am disgusted with how badly ASUS has handled the development/testing/rollout of ICS. There's no point in being fast to market if you're going to put out crap that destabilizes your hardware!
- If I only had the easy choice of keeping the latest OTA (at the moment .27) or returning to Honeycomb, I would do the latter. It didn't crash. And it responded crisply to touches. But part of ASUS idiocy is not providing a backwards migration path even though they have ample evidence that they have a shoddy ICS ROM.
I realize, before asking, that there are a lot of combinations and permutations to what you folks might recommend. But let me help you to understand what I am seeking at the end of the migration:
First off about me: I have prior experience rooting and replacing ROM's. (Nexus One now runs CM 7.1. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7" GT-P1000 now running CM9.) But I would not describe myself as an experienced or confident person-- I suppose it would help if all Android devices used the same tools and procedures for performing the migration.
Bottom Line: I am capable of following instructions and I am comfortable with CWM flashing once I have a rooted device with CWM.
My criteria:
Stability:
I want highest possible stability- I am realistic; I realize that the ASUS TF101 is already cursed. But I would settle for one crash every couple of days.
Smooth performance:
Under .27 stock, there is a ridiculously slow response to touch events. My single core first generation Samsung 7" performs faster!
Ungimmicky:
I don't need flashy special features built into the ROM. I'd be happy with something that stays reasonably close to the vanilla Android ICS experience.
(If it helps, I am fairly pleased with the CM9 implementation on my ancient Samsung 7".)
What I Use TF101 For:
- Slingplayer Mobile
- Video files (.avi, .mp4, .mpg, .flv, .mkv)
- Reading: PressReader, Pulse, Flipboard
- Occasionally using an Office-type suite and/or Google Drive docs
What I Don't Want or Need
- Games
- ASUS "value added" bloatware apps
Questions:
- What are the important differences between the various CM9 implementations?
I see there are at least two CM9 implementations for the TF101. (Which may or may not be the same as the one posted at the CyanogenMod site:
http://get.cm/?device=tf101&type=stable
- I have done some reading about Revolver and Overcome. But I am not sure whether these are a better choice than CM9. Are they more reliable because they are based on the stock ROM?
(Remember that I don't want or need any ASUS apps.)
- So let's start with the important question: based on my needs and desire for a quick move to a rooted, stable, ICS TF101, which ROM should I use?
- Which kernel and version number should I flash to accompany that particular ROM?
- Is there a guide (either here on XDA or elsewhere) that will take me from stock, unrooted ICS .27 to installing CWM?
- A bonus would be if it took me all the way to flashing the final ROM, but this is not essential
One last point: I already understand the idea that CWM would let me try out various ROMs. And I am comfortable doing that if I am not happy with my first choice.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
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None of stock ROMs r stable r smooth and I hate them.. in my opinion rooting n custom is the way to go.... when I was on ICS, I preferred revolver ICS ROM but android revolution HD is also very smooth n stable... I have moved onto jelly bean but since its in alpha/nightly versions its up to you..
I prefer easy flash to root and install recovery, please choose twrp or rogue recovery as they r better than cwm in my opinion...
For revolver n revolution you don't need any custom kernel as both run on stock kernel...
PS: when you use easy flash follow instructions and install universal naked driver.... good luck
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I just hopped back to Megatron after tinkering with jelly bean rooms, it's still the best daily workhorse from I've tried on this thing.
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... when I was on ICS, I preferred revolver ICS ROM
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I rooted and flashed Revolver. So far I am relying on the original kernel The tablet is no longer hesitating. So far no random FCs of apps. The Gmail app in particular is not afraid to stay alive.
I am quite pleased!
Hi. I've been referring to xda for a couple years now, and only recently decided to become a member of the forum. You guys have helped me out a lot over the last few years, with my devices. And now I've got a tough question. I've been reading as many threads related to the Asus zenpad z580c as I could, having already done the root provided by madsquabbles. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/zenpad-s-root-achieved-t3160422)
And that worked beautifully. I've already removed or frozen as much of the blaotware as I possibly could, and changed to Apex launcher, but I want more customization. I was hoping someone got Cyanogenmod, or dare i ask, Windows working on a zenpad. (once a windows fanboy, always a windows fanboy?) I would be open to just about any custom ROM solution that will remove all the trash bloatware. This ZenUI thing really bugs me, having upgraded to the zenpad from a Asus Nexus 7 which had more or less NO bloatware. At least none that couldn't be removed. But my ZenPad has 2GB of ram, and even with "Don't Keep Activities" enabled, it almost always has over a GB used. I would love to unlock the full potential of this tablet, but the bloat from ASUS is muddling the experience. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. You can also reply assuming I have a moderate skillset when it comes to this sort of thing, having custom flashed my nexus 7 many times and already flashing root access to this one after only having it for a week. Thanks!
Nothing?
it's been about a week now. I guess no one has the zenpad. It's got good hardware for the price, so this suprises me. Oh well. If anyone does have a suggestion or a thread they want me to look at, send me an email at [email protected], or add me on skype: theimmortalryu. I would really like to be able to tap into the real power of this device...
I just saw this post. Yeah, I agree with you. There is a lot of quality behind the tablet, but some custom roms could fix problems with the stock rom that hasn't been fixed in quite a while. I am tempted to return the tablet because I can't seem to find any roms and there is no signs that these problems are going to be fixed in the future. I just don't want to drop 300 dollars on a tablet if there is no hope to have the device updated any time in the future. Anyways, I just wanted to know if you had any updates on this situation even though it is quite a while later.
I assume it won't be too hard to port CM for ASUS zenfone 2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/zen...-unofficial-cyanogenmod-12-1-nightly-t3164144) to ZenPad S 8 Z580CA (the 4GB version), as the two share the SOC and ram. And from there, the ZenPad S 8 Z580C (2GB version) should only need some small changes.
I own a zenfone 2 and am happy with CM 12.1. CM 13 is also available for it, but I think it will take a bit more time to be stable. The devs are very active so things look good. I don't own zenpad so I can't help on porting, but if anyone want to try, feel free to ask questions.
I want to give this a little bit of a bump.
This is the 2nd tablet I've ever owned, the first being a Nexus 7, and I'm definitely loving this thing. I don't like all the bloatware, but I don't mind the ZenUI so much. Just wish there was more themes, looks, and some more customization. I'm very satisfied with this, but would really like additional flexibility to it.
I really don't have the knowledge or skill to develop these sort of things, or I may try myself. On that note, much respect to the developers here who keep all of us updated on the devices we have that have so much support. My phone wouldn't be as awesome as it is now without all of you. Maybe I could learn...if I made the time to do so.
mrmathematica said:
I assume it won't be too hard to port CM for ASUS zenfone 2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/zen...-unofficial-cyanogenmod-12-1-nightly-t3164144) to ZenPad S 8 Z580CA (the 4GB version), as the two share the SOC and ram. And from there, the ZenPad S 8 Z580C (2GB version) should only need some small changes.
I own a zenfone 2 and am happy with CM 12.1. CM 13 is also available for it, but I think it will take a bit more time to be stable. The devs are very active so things look good. I don't own zenpad so I can't help on porting, but if anyone want to try, feel free to ask questions.
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You may be right sir, after doing some research, I've found out that the Zenpad S (2GB ram version) is nearly Identical to the Zenphone 2 (2GB ram version) with the only difference being the Tab has an Intel atom Z3530 CPU and the Phone has Intel atom Z3540 CPU, both CPUs are clocked at 1.8GHz and the same can be said with the 4GB versions of the Tab and Phone, CPU's being slightly faster on the 4GB ram versions but still following the whole scheme of the phone having the next model up processor than the tablet but both are still clocked the same. With all of this being said I feel like a port from the Zenphone 2's to the Zenpad S', would work phenomenally, I've built custom Cyanogen for a few phones before but never ported, I've been looking it up on CM's wiki but im at a loss(not enough coffee maybe? it is early in the morning). I own a Zenpad S 8.0 Z580C and would love to bring CyanogenMod to this device.
There is an experimental git repository by XDA developer thunderger: I cannot post URLs yet, just search for the device model name 'asus p01m'
Concerning the bootloader (which you can check from 'adb reboot fastboot', or rebooting while pressing power + vol up), Asus has provided an 'unlocker' utility for instance for the ZenPhone 2 ZE551ML, which seems to have basically the same SoC hardware: see i.e.:
For this tablet, the kernel source and some image versions seem available from the corresponding Asus HelpDesk page; but no unlocking utility yet.
Hope it helps! It would be great to debloat these nice tablets for good.
thanks for the info, imma get searching and see if i can find anything useful.
EDIT: I found thunderger's git hub repo but its for the p01ma and not the p01m but hopefully since they are so similar it wont take much effort to get it working.
Naylo540 said:
thanks for the info, imma get searching and see if i can find anything useful.
EDIT: I found thunderger's git hub repo but its for the p01ma and not the p01m but hopefully since they are so similar it wont take much effort to get it working.
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I've managed to prepare a debloated stock ROM from the original by Asus, and reflash it. A first step in the desirable direction!
How does one check non-destructively whether the stock bootloader is locked?
amrmo said:
I've managed to prepare a debloated stock ROM from the original by Asus, and reflash it. A first step in the desirable direction!
How does one check non-destructively whether the stock bootloader is locked?
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to check the bootloader lock status turn your device off, wait 5 seconds, press and hold pwr+vol up untill it brings you to fastboot, you'll see:
droidbootversion: a# (mine is 5)
buildnumber:devicescurrentupdatenumber
security:a# (mine is 1)
the "Security" parameter is what tells you your bootloader lock status.
if im not mistaken 1 is locked and 0 is unlocked.
Also, great job on the debloated ROM, but we need to be very careful which software we disable because I deleted Tru2Life and it started giving me HUGE graphical glitches such as Vsync got disabled, my lord was the screen tearing horrid, what appeared to be dead pixels started popping up everywhere, I thought i borked it but then installed the Tru2Life apk from the latest update and it was fixed, So im really starting to think the at least some of the GPU setting or drivers (modules? idk what ever the linux version of drivers are) are contained or hard coded into that app. Do you have Tru2Life on your debloated stock ROM? and does it show the same results? im just curious because if it was doing that on my tab but no one else' there is probably something wrong with my tab.
We also really need a working custom recovery that isnt a tethered recovery, then im sure a lot more devs would jump on board with this device.
Just reading through this thread and I love that anyone is giving this attention.
Any other luck porting over CM to the p01ma or the p01m? I would kill to get Marshmallow on this thing, and since the internals are so similar to the Zenfone 2 I'm still holding out hope for my p01ma.
Thanks in advance!
I am a bit dissapointed since none of the zenpad tablets have their own subforum, even when almost any other device in the world have one. Also, as of today, I read there is a CM13 nightly for Zenpad 8 (Z380KL), which is also said to be officially updated to marshmallow
glaudrem said:
I am a bit dissapointed since none of the zenpad tablets have their own subforum, even when almost any other device in the world have one. Also, as of today, I read there is a CM13 nightly for Zenpad 8 (Z380KL), which is also said to be officially updated to marshmallow
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I'm disappointed as well - I have the Z580CA-C1-BK 8" 64 GB version and I love just about everything about it apart from the massive bloat it came with.
Looks like it will never get marshmallow either or even 5.1 lollipop for that matter...
For me it's more or less the same as for Ryuhouji. I got a lot of useful information out of the xda forums for a longer time for all the devices I had so far. When I gave up using my old Archos 80 G9 tablet as the hardware was no longer powerful enough and bought a Z850CA (model number P01MA) I was tempted by the quite powerful hardware and did not expect that Asus would not update the device to Marshmallow, so I am also disappointed, and even more as so far they is no custom ROM.
For the Archos tablet there were some custom ROMs, the latest even was a CM12.1 version, and a forum. I can't understand why for the Zenpad S 8.0 there is no forum.
I will wait a bit longer whether there is any hope for an unlocked bootloader, TWRP recovery and a custom ROM, otherwise the only thing I could do will be to root the device and get rid of some bloatware. However not getting security updates from Asus for this device is unbelievable.
CM (13?)
Hi!
I would really love to have a full-functional CyanogenMod for this tablet. And a section on XDA, too!
If my opinion matters, and if i can do something for someone, i'll be glad!
Meanwhile, here:
(www).unlock-bootloader.download/2016/08/asus-zenpad-s-8-0-z580c-7366.html
there is something else about unlocking the bootloader. Does it help anyone? Does it work? I cannot try.
Thanks for everything!
debloat
hi folks,
I've recently found debloated rom here -(forum)xda-developers.com/android/development/rom-debloated-asus-zenpad-s-8-0-64gb-t3445651
Dechev86 said:
hi folks,
I've recently found debloated rom here -(forum)xda-developers.com/android/development/rom-debloated-asus-zenpad-s-8-0-64gb-t3445651
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Very well!! it's a very appreciated start!!
Have you tried it?
And, is it possible to go back? (just in the remote case asus decide to go to marshmallow, you know...)
Is anyone interested in this? Asus upgraded!
http://www.androidworld.it/2016/09/14/asus-zenpad-s-8-0-marshmallow-426062/
AndreaKPiermarteri said:
Is anyone interested in this? Asus upgraded!
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I installed this update to Marshmallow. It's like a whole new tablet, the main problem I was having of it over aggressively closing background apps is gone.
It won't be an OTA update, you need to download it from there and have the zip file on the root of your storage.
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I installed this update to Marshmallow. It's like a whole new tablet, the main problem I was having of it over aggressively closing background apps is gone.
It won't be an OTA update, you need to download it from there and have the zip file on the root of your storage.
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good! i am almost satisfied too with this update. Only on thing: do you (or anyone reading this) use Google Inbox? I experienced sudden shut down of the app while using, many times and constantly; google simply said "it's asus fault".
Anyone having any idea?