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USA bannes HTC phones from April 2012

I think äpple won a major patent battle today, all HTC phones in the USA are banned from april next year
F**K äpple, and the U.S patent laws!
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Not really, depends on HTC, they still have time to fix this issue:
http://gizmodo.com/5869507/htc-android-phones-are-being-banned-from-the-us-next-year

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16258916
There fine
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Oh relax. You know what the "patent" in question is? It regards being able to tap on a phone number and have the number appear in your dialer. All HTC has to do is release a software update removing this basic, obvious functionality (which has prior art stretching back to the 70s, but somehow Apple "invented" it in 2000), and the ban is lifted.
Unfortunately the US Supreme Court has decided to not play by its own rules, and so software is patentable. It used to be that math and other basic research was not patentable, but then it also used to be that corporations did not deserve stronger free speech rights than ordinary citizens. These kinds of ridiculous rulings will persist until we come to our senses and stop letting lawyers, who naturally have a vested interest in prolonged legal battles and an increasingly litigious society, serve as judges and lawmakers.

GeknGekn said:
I think äpple won a major patent battle today, all HTC phones in the USA are banned from april next year
F**K äpple, and the U.S patent laws!
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wow that sucks, thats gonna hurt HTC sales, i hope it wont hurt them too much!
i really really hate apple, it looks like they are gonna go after android OS next!
link for those who havent seen:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/news/telecom/Patent-win-for-Apple-Some-HTC-phones-banned-in-US/articleshow/11177216.cms

TheEyes said:
Oh relax. You know what the "patent" in question is? It regards being able to tap on a phone number and have the number appear in your dialer. All HTC has to do is release a software update removing this basic, obvious functionality (which has prior art stretching back to the 70s, but somehow Apple "invented" it in 2000), and the ban is lifted.
Unfortunately the US Supreme Court has decided to not play by its own rules, and so software is patentable. It used to be that math and other basic research was not patentable, but then it also used to be that corporations did not deserve stronger free speech rights than ordinary citizens. These kinds of ridiculous rulings will persist until we come to our senses and stop letting lawyers, who naturally have a vested interest in prolonged legal battles and an increasingly litigious society, serve as judges and lawmakers.
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I thought it was worse, just heard about it in the Al-jazeera news so I thought it was alot worse
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TheEyes said:
Oh relax. You know what the "patent" in question is? It regards being able to tap on a phone number and have the number appear in your dialer. All HTC has to do is release a software update removing this basic, obvious functionality (which has prior art stretching back to the 70s, but somehow Apple "invented" it in 2000), and the ban is lifted.
Unfortunately the US Supreme Court has decided to not play by its own rules, and so software is patentable. It used to be that math and other basic research was not patentable, but then it also used to be that corporations did not deserve stronger free speech rights than ordinary citizens. These kinds of ridiculous rulings will persist until we come to our senses and stop letting lawyers, who naturally have a vested interest in prolonged legal battles and an increasingly litigious society, serve as judges and lawmakers.
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i didnt realise that was the patent, thats stupid, i couldnt find what it was anywhere. im sure i had that on an old nokia years ago. fu apple!

according to the article from Android and me, it's only on select HTC devices.
Android phones running version 1.6 and 2.2 and specifically Evo 4g, Aria, G2, and Droid Incredible.
kind of crap win if you ask me.
Apple makes me laugh.

Mainspring said:
according to the article from Android and me, it's only on select HTC devices.
Android phones running version 1.6 and 2.2 and specifically Evo 4g, Aria, G2, and Droid Incredible.
kind of crap win if you ask me.
Apple makes me laugh.
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haha fail.
but it may lead the way for other cases to cite precedent..

Apple know they are loosing in the mobile OS battle, and they will try and sue anything that stops other handset manufactures and OS developers from becoming the best.
This thing kind of reminds me of the iPad - everyone thought that apple invented the tablet, even though they were around since 2003.
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NathanBookham said:
Apple know they are loosing in the mobile OS battle, and they will try and sue anything that stops other handset manufactures and OS developers from becoming the best.
This thing kind of reminds me of the iPad - everyone thought that apple invented the tablet, even though they were around since 2003.
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yes that pissed me right off, apple presenting the ipad as a new technology, no u just re-hashed an old idea.
however i will give them that they brought tablets to the market more but they did not invent them!
i wont forget watching steve jobs standing there showing the new apple invention...

Mainspring said:
according to the article from Android and me, it's only on select HTC devices.
Android phones running version 1.6 and 2.2 and specifically Evo 4g, Aria, G2, and Droid Incredible.
kind of crap win if you ask me.
Apple makes me laugh.
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And most of those are EOL so its not like they're stealing apples sales
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It's nothing to worry about as HTC can easily fix that issue
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsav...apple-real-winner-in-itc-ruling-analyst-says/
...let's just look forward to ICS with sense

I really don't need another reason to want to crush apples. I love apple cider
I can't believe so many were duped into ios world, which operates like a Communist system. My friends that own iPhone have been so many times to Apple store to fix the problem (unsuccessfully I may add).
The only outstanding feature of ios is that devices running on it are a lot more expensive. What a joke...
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Apple suck, I'm pretty certain that my Nokia N95 used to be able to turn numbers in text messages into links but I notice they're not going after them. They'll probably claim to have invented front-facing cameras next.
I don't even believe this will affect Apple's market share, people who buy iphones do so because it's an iphone, simple as. They don't care what Android can do because it doesn't have an Apple on it. On the other hand, I wouldn't have an iphone on principle because I hate the restrictions, the ridiculous lawsuits, and itunes most of all. I even hate the mis-capitalisation of the names. People in either camp are not going to have their loyalty swayed by a tiny feature, and suing over this smacks of desperation. Get a life Apple.

Apple sauce is slimy! HTC rocks!

Phones have been doing this before the iPhone existed. It seems apple have to look for things not claimed by other companies so they can claim it as their own, where as the other companies don't see it as something they have a right to own...
In short go jump of a bridge apple the world would be a better place
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Its official - court rules that Motorolas patents cannot be used against Apple

http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2012/02/motorola-cant-enforce-standard.html
German courts have made a ruling that means if Motorola tries to use its most important patents against Apple in a court case the company will be in violation of European Anti trust law.
As the article says:
"Apple scored a breakthrough court victory today against Motorola. Its important can hardly be overstated. This is so huge that it even begs the question of whether Google's strategy for its $12.5 billion purchase of Motorola Mobility has failed before the deal is even formally closed (they're still waiting for some regulatory approvals)."
It would be nice to see Apple bought down a peg or two but the way things are going its likely to be Google-Motorola (and therefore also Android) that is on the losing side.
After all Motorola cannot use its genuinely essential patents in court now and yet Apple can still use dumb ones like voice search, touch screen, text completion etcetera that although every decent phone nowadays has these features Apple own the patents to and have been able to use in court cases so it seems Apple now have the upper hand.
Dave

Why, yes, Apple, you can patent intuitive actions on your devices all you please; and don't worry about those pesky other companies patenting worthwhile operating features, we'll make them play ball with you. Hahaha, let's go smoke this cigar together and laugh at all the little people.

this is getting hilarious...they all should concentrate on developing new devices instead of sueing each other. I hate Apple for all these lawsuits...

Firetribe said:
this is getting hilarious...they all should concentrate on developing new devices instead of sueing each other. I hate Apple for all these lawsuits...
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They can't develop new devices without violating apples patents anymore. When the new phones with android get released after mwc you'll see more lawsuits against those models too.
Apple will win because they have patents that are not subject to frand so don't have to let people use them.
Odd thing is that apples licence offer to motorola, which stopped the injunction on iphones in Germany, is still less than motorola asked for yet judges order them to not sue apple as a result.
Dave
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Yeo, I know it was Apple who started it all... I just feel sorry for the time wasted in court, only to slow down the other side, time and money which could be used much better.
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Firetribe said:
Yeo, I know it was Apple who started it all... I just feel sorry for the time wasted in court, only to slow down the other side, time and money which could be used much better.
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Things got worse for motorola today as apple won court case over the android gallery and they have to change it or all their products running android get banned and recalled.
Dave
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First of all you have to consider the source of this information to be able to evaluate the spin on this. Florian Mueller is a anti Google/Android pro MS mouthpiece who tends to be clueless.
This is a lifting of the preliminary injunction. The case itself is still pending, but It'll likely to take quite a while to finish up. Granted this isn't good news for Motorola, but it's NOT the end of the road.
Check out Groklaw for a different slant on this and other issues (eg Oracle/Google)

jcmm11 said:
First of all you have to consider the source of this information to be able to evaluate the spin on this. Florian Mueller is a anti Google/Android pro MS mouthpiece who tends to be clueless.
This is a lifting of the preliminary injunction. The case itself is still pending, but It'll likely to take quite a while to finish up. Granted this isn't good news for Motorola, but it's NOT the end of the road.
Check out Groklaw for a different slant on this and other issues (eg Oracle/Google)
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Actually he uses android devices as he has a Samsung that was affected by the german court case against them last year and he is actually very knowledgeable.
I follow his work and have not noticed any pro apple bias but the things he states are facts, motorolas cannot sue apple using their patents for the duration of the appeal which is between one to two years so how would any bias change the facts?
Dave
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He said "pro MS" and not "pro apple"
mistermentality said:
Actually he uses android devices as he has a Samsung that was affected by the german court case against them last year and he is actually very knowledgeable.
I follow his work and have not noticed any pro apple bias but the things he states are facts, motorolas cannot sue apple using their patents for the duration of the appeal which is between one to two years so how would any bias change the facts?
Dave
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atljatl said:
He said "pro MS" and not "pro apple"
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He said anti android as well which if the guy uses android as he does is unlikely.
Dave
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Sucks for Motorola. I really had hope this would be a big battle for the long lasting.

starable said:
Sucks for Motorola. I really had hope this would be a big battle for the long lasting.
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I thought that steve jobs was gone, apple would stop these law suits but it seems to be differing
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The patent trolling will never end.

Patent fraud is some really easy money, especially when you've got easy victories guaranteed, like Apple does.

Firetribe said:
Yeo, I know it was Apple who started it all...
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Motorola sued apple first, which started the ball rolling..

Tone_ said:
Motorola sued apple first, which started the ball rolling..
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Motorola sued after apple didn't pay licencing fees in 2010, something apple still won't pay. Bit different to apple suing because phones can auto complete text for example.
Motorola sued for a good reason but apple do so to stifle competition.
Dave
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So ridiculous.
European courts seem to be all over Apple's side.

mistermentality said:
Motorola sued after apple didn't pay licencing fees in 2010, something apple still won't pay. Bit different to apple suing because phones can auto complete text for example.
Motorola sued for a good reason but apple do so to stifle competition.
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saw this and i thought i would say that apple originally started all of this by suing google and HTC first
they r trying to hold back developemnet becuz thats all apple has done is steal and try and stop competition
in the long run apple will fall
and ppl only buy apple products cuz they br pretty i buy google products for quality and interfacing
all in all apple products r made for the stupid and wealthy while android/windows r made for ppl that want to improve thru the reason y google is open source

Long live open source!
Apple are thieves.
Buy an Apple product and you support your own demise.
Wake up people!
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Do your own research and decide. His name is mud on Slashdot and Groklaw. Here's one article. found at m.paidcontent.org/article/419-is-patent-expertblogger-florian-mueller-getting-too-cozy-with-microsoft/
Partial quote:
The problem lies not with Mueller’s analysis—but with his impartiality. The engineer is right when he says that Mueller has the knives out for Google. Even a casual reader of the FOSS blog can easily discern that Mueller is quick to amplify any legal setback for Google’s Android or its affiliates. His tone can be crowing and haughty—see the tendentious “Google scores an Own Goal” post about Motorola (NYSE: MMI)—and for all the world echoes Microsoft’s own “they’re getting what they deserve” attitude to Google.
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Anyone noticed an increase in Apple fanboy articles bashing Android since yesterday?

Definitely a lot more than usual, they must be panicking

I see a lot more android fanboy posts bashing apple. Must be the panicking.

monkeyluis said:
I see a lot more android fanboy posts bashing apple. Must be the panicking.
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That's probably due to the high profile court cases this week where some androids were banned for violating patents such as being able to act on a phone number you've been sent in a message (data tapping) and having a unified search feature (siri patent).
People rightly get annoyed when a big company patents things that were in use before the patent and then uses them to stifle the competition.
Dave
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Well lately its been sad news in the Android world because Flash Player is no longer supported on 4.1 and Gnex was banned.

And yet both side can't change anything.. let's grab some popcorn
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^+1

Its those kind of Apple Fanboys that gives good and kind iPeople a bad name.

Let them KEEP BARKING LIKE STRAY DOGS. They are afraid that their iOS is loosing to the New Generation of Android phones, so inorder to stay in top they are trying to make android's position low.
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ifanboy raging ? :highfive:

mistermentality said:
That's probably due to the high profile court cases this week where some androids were banned for violating patents such as being able to act on a phone number you've been sent in a message (data tapping) and having a unified search feature (siri patent).
People rightly get annoyed when a big company patents things that were in use before the patent and then uses them to stifle the competition.
Dave
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Yes
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/30/3...estigating-google-over-motorolas-use-of-frand.
Wouldn't want anyone to hold technology back. Grrr, argh.

monkeyluis said:
Yes
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/30/3...estigating-google-over-motorolas-use-of-frand.
Wouldn't want anyone to hold technology back. Grrr, argh.
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Pretty sure apple patenting anothers ideas then suing over people using them is just a little worse, and does more to hold tech back, than motorola who are owned by google allegedly charging a high price for patent rights.
One copies existing ideas and then stops rivals using them while not allowing them to licence the rights, the other own patents vital to tech products and lets anyone use them but possibly overcharges.
Pretty big difference between them.
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Seriously can you stop spamming so many threads?
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monkeyluis said:
Yes
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/30/3...estigating-google-over-motorolas-use-of-frand.
Wouldn't want anyone to hold technology back. Grrr, argh.
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The thing about Apple getting in hot water over frand is that they didn't pay the frand rate at all.
Motorola objected as it should be paid.
Now Apple have entered into a frand agreement, however they want to have their cake and eat it by not paying for the time they were illegally using the patents.
As they hadn't entered into a frand agreement with Motorola back then, Motorola is not obliged to charge a frand rate and so want to charge a compensatory rate that punishes Apple for breaking the ethics of frand. This upsets Apple and the protectionist US authorities.
Had Apple played by the rules in the first place they'd not be in this mess but they wanted to rip off Motorola so must pay the price.

This is xda not androidCentral or imore. Keep the fan crap out!

It is time a new OS to pop out and steal everything the others got lol
We will have the perfect smartphone and they can spend all their money in court muahahaha

smile_ppl said:
Well lately its been sad news in the Android world because Flash Player is no longer supported on 4.1 and Gnex was banned.
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There not supporting flags player!? :O
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Yeah I have too, it's quite funny to read through, honestly.

Just proves how "evil" Apple is. A company that plays dirty tricks to stifle the competition is highly unattractive towards me.
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I bet the American court system won't have the balls to ban sales of the Xbox 360 due to the courtroom loss of Microsoft to Motorola since Microsoft is an American company.

Looks like there already is a new os make by mozila, with a android kernel and a "mordern" UI~

Android VS Apple

saranhai said:
I agree, looking through some Apple Mac Forums and such, I discovered that yes, while there are still the die-hard Apple fans, the majority of them are quite mature with each other. Not so much the case here...There are some that do still provide valuable information yes, and there are some peaceful, mature debates, but there's always that one or two posts saying "I love Android", or "Screw Apple, Android FTW!" etc.
Let's remember guys: This thread was created for the community to come together and peacefully discuss and share their opinions on this matter.There's nothing wrong with being a fan boy, but if you're just going to waste a post saying stuff like this...then don't post it...use that post for something/somewhere else.
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http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles/apples-latest-patents-could-spell-doom-for-android-r977
R.I.P Android, you were a great OS, i'm sorry you were destroyed by such a selfish company.
So what do you guys think? Thoughts? Comments?
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def not R.I.P
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Who the **** gave apple those patents?
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How many judges got new cars bought by Apple aftee granting these patents?
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What the ****s going on?? What are these judges smoking man??????????
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saranhai said:
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles/apples-latest-patents-could-spell-doom-for-android-r977
R.I.P Android, you were a great OS, i'm sorry you were destroyed by such a selfish company.
So what do you guys think? Thoughts? Comments?
-Saranhai
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I am focken astonished that Apple has gone this far in ther bullcrap. Doesn't anybody remember Windows Pocket Pc or Windows mobile 2003??? It came out in 2002! When steve jobs was pulling purple and pink imacs out of his ass!
Apple didn't invent smartphones or touchscreens you stupid judges!
I'd rather buy a blackberry or a windows phone, if this is android's end. Never an apple.
One Apple a day?? Eff you lol
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If they still win we will be illegal for using android phones )?
I WILL HAVE TO DESTRUCT MY ANDROID PHONE
WILL THEY FORCE GOOGLE TO DO A BRICK UPDATE
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...
APPLE SUCKS AND ALWAYS WILL I WILL NEVER BUY I**** EVEN IF THEY ARE THE BEST
I GUESS BLACKBERRY FOR THE WIN

Can't happen!

In near future Apple will patent Android... :screwy:
This is just ridiculous.
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saranhai said:
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles/apples-latest-patents-could-spell-doom-for-android-r977
R.I.P Android, you were a great OS, i'm sorry you were destroyed by such a selfish company.
So what do you guys think? Thoughts? Comments?
-Saranhai
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Worst case scenario is that usa would have to have a heavily neutered version of the os.
There is prior art that predates the patent application by a year so that could be useful in a court case.
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Will not stop Android, these patents are all completely ridiculous. I also don't understand how they could possibly be granted retrospectively like that. The fact that they apparently have is quite an indictment of the US (?) patent system, in my opinion (dunno if "indictment" is the right word, but it seems right to me).

The sad part is the judges don't know crap. Apple ass hones
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Will not stop Android, these patents are all completely ridiculous. I also don't understand how they could possibly be granted retrospectively like that. The fact that they apparently have is quite an indictment of the US (?) patent system, in my opinion (dunno if "indictment" is the right word, but it seems right to me).
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They are ridiculous but legal.
Believe it or not the patent even covers widgets, if you read the whole patent it's about half way down. And it covers email, scrolling through lists, stuff people did long before apples patent.
But by specifying a multi touch portable device in their description this patent applies to literally any mobile device and if they were able to find a sympathetic judge such as Judge Koh they could cause problems for victims, I mean people stealing their ideas (oops), of their choosing.
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I think its funny how apple just copy android and they get the credit
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gates was first with tablet pc 10 years ago anyway so whats the prob here?

The great thing about open source is that THEY CANNOT STOP USSSSSSS!!!!!!
If they could then all these proprietary binaries, blobs, apps, frameworks, radios etc etc would have killed the hacking community.
Instead, we fart in their general direction!
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2blackbar said:
gates was first with tablet pc 10 years ago anyway so whats the prob here?
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I'm sorry but most features aren't owned by apple, lots of these existed on windows mobile so apple is basically trying to defend technology that was never theirs to defend. bring Microsoft and it's game over for apple

mistermentality said:
They are ridiculous but legal.
Believe it or not the patent even covers widgets, if you read the whole patent it's about half way down. And it covers email, scrolling through lists, stuff people did long before apples patent.
But by specifying a multi touch portable device in their description this patent applies to literally any mobile device and if they were able to find a sympathetic judge such as Judge Koh they could cause problems for victims, I mean people stealing their ideas (oops), of their choosing.
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Actually the ITC blocking the import of Android devices illegal. They technically do not have the authority to do so. Apple applies to all of these patents under FRAND. So, when they sue, they aren't giving anyone a chance to license the patent. Senators (as of last week) have decided to step in to fix the broken tech patent system, so I don't think this is the end of anything. If Google just throws in the towel and gives up, Apple will clearly have a monopoly (wp7, wp8, RIM have hardly any market share) and then they are screwed as well.

Freedom it is This stupid war will never end.
It kinda reminds me of some old movies, where big Firms own everything.....even the whole Country.......CHEERS .......

Surprised about the Apple vs Samsung verdict?

Well I figured since this is a Samsung phone forum I could post this here... Anyways mod delete if you feel like...
My point is I am not surprised about the verdict today at all...
Let's face it.. this doesn't make sense to me.. Apple is a huge American company, Samsung is from Korea.. so for a case so big shouldn't it happen in some international country or something? And plus guess what... the jury is 9 American citizens. Seriously? They probably have some iStuffs, their wives,husbands,kid,friends probably do.. so which side do you think they would be on?
Anyways this is what I think, and why I am not surprised Apple won on all counts..
What do you think?
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Hopefully Google/Motorola will avenge Samsung's US lost to crApple.

Djapatos said:
Well I figured since this is a Samsung phone forum I could post this here... Anyways mod delete if you feel like...
My point is I am not surprised about the verdict today at all...
Let's face it.. this doesn't make sense to me.. Apple is a huge American company, Samsung is from Korea.. so for a case so big shouldn't it happen in some international country or something? And plus guess what... the jury is 9 American citizens. Seriously? They probably have some iStuffs, their wives,husbands,kid,friends probably do.. so which side do you think they would be on?
Anyways this is what I think, and why I am not surprised Apple won on all counts..
What do you think?
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Oh I knew it was gonna turn out like this. About 75% of the population here see a smartphone and label it a iPhone, they see a tablet and label it a iPad. Who did you think the American public was going to side with. That's the power of advertisement Apple controls over all smartphones & tablets. When you are able to replace the generic name of a product with your brand name for that same product and have the whole population calling it that way you are in control. (Q-tip, Vaseline, Band-Aid, ChapStick, Windex, iPod, etc.)

Really when you think about it, the ruling isn't surprising at all. Apple wants to get rid if their competitors and lawsuits are just one way to do it. In my mind, a really cheap and almost disgraceful way to do it, but, that's politics for you! No one remembers Tucker (old car company) but i was wiped out by the Detroit 3 through a lawsuit as well. Only 50 cars were ever produced because of it.
I hate politics, but this is how things go down... Hopefully, up here in Canada we don't have repercussions from the American trial, but who knows right? All three of my phones have been Samsung, and I want my fourth to be one as well, even if I have to buy international.
Apple... Great products, however they need to stop suing about everything. But that's politics, and I hate them.
Samsung... Best of luck to you. I want another great phone... Maybe make it in the shape of a circle so Apple can't sue about the shape (how can you patent a shape anyway!? I might as well patent the sphere and sue all the ball makers in the world. )
May the force be with you Sammy
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I'm not surprise with the verdict. I expected crApple to win, not because of the patent infringement claims, but due to their huge advantages. Basically, Samsung was the underdog in this case. Keep in mind that crApple's headquarter is just a mere 10 miles away from the courthouse and the jurors were picked from the heart of Silicon Valley, where Steve Jobs was from.

It could be that they let Apple win because Apple's a really big company that supports the American Economy
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saywhatt said:
It could be that they let Apple win because Apple's a really big company that supports the American Economy
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Rigggghhht...
All those 'Designed in California, Made in China' fine print is really that hard to understand... it says California in there so it must be good for America?
Not to mention they are really good at dodging local/state/federal taxes. They have a good army of lawyers doing just that outside of the litigation ones that fought Samsung.

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Rigggghhht...
All those 'Made in China' print must be missed on all their products.
Not to mention they are really good at dodging local/state/federal taxes.
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[BREAKING NEWS] Apple files infringement suit against God for creating a fruit based off their logo.......

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[BREAKING NEWS] Apple files infringement suit against God for creating a fruit based off their logo.......
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The interesting part about this situation is that Samsung makes apple's proccessors... I wonder if this will piss Samsung off enough to call it quits... Apple is Samsung's number one customer, so I doubt they will be able to cut ties without losing a major amount of income
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What goes around comes around.. Apple will get theirs soon enough.
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Google needs to step up and revenge for Samsung. Apple is going after all android phones manufacture after this. Even Nexus lineup.
Oh yeah. F##k Apple. I will never buy their products again. Period.

I hope that google does step up and do something about this. Most likely their probably not wich upsets me to see crApple winning.
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I was kind of surprised since the jury got to use some of the Samsung devices to compare. Usually when I'm around someone who is messing with their iPhlop I let them mess around with my phone and 90% of the time am asked if I have any for sale.
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Its sad really. Do you see Bentley and Mercedes suing Hyundai for making their cars look like ripoffs? Designer clothes stores suing old navy for clothes that look exactly the same? A third grader for drawing a rounded rectangle??
I just couldn't help at Tim cook's release to his employees about how they were reluctant to sue and how they want to protect innovation for all. Bunch of goddamn money hungry elitist assholes. If they really cared about innovation and technology they would be a little more concerned with moving the whole segment forward, not hoarding everything to themselves.
That being said, some things Samsung did really are ridiculous copies (the charger cube for our phone looks exactly like the iPhones...)...and they should have partially lost.
They won't make it very long after people don't think their **** is so hot anymore and they burn all their cash on stupid lawsuits...watch out in the near future for a bombed product upgrade...could come as early as the iPhone 5 I bet.
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I don't see how Apple won in a business sense.. Samsung had already established themselves as the number one smartphone manufacturer in the world by focusing on territory. Now they can focus more on design. It was a billion dollar gamble that paid of nicely. They don't need to do anything but but put out a bunch of vanilla Android devices with top of the line hardware and a physical design that doesn't look like an iPhone. There are many possibilities. This was a win for Samsung and us since we will get less iOS look and feel and better functionality.
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The fact and the matter is... apple only sues Samsung because it s scared of how Samsung has become #1 and wants to destroy it...
Like I don't think Samsung is the maker of phone with rectangle and round corners, how come apple only sues Samsung? That's cause Samsung is the most successful one
My only hope is for Motorola/Google wins against Apple
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As much as I love android I do remember shopping for a phone and picking up the galaxy s fascinate and thinking to myself "wow this really looks like an iphone".. Samsung really should have done something to better differentiate the 2 phones.. However I never for one second got it confused with an iphone.. I love Samsung phones but some of their phones did look like blatant copies.. I agree that a rectangle should not be patented but i also think that Apple has a right to not have their products copied so closely... That is why they won their case..
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As much as I love android I do remember shipping for a phone and picking up the galaxy s fascinate and thinking to myself "wow this really looks like an iphone".. Samsung really should have done something to better differentiate the 2 phones.. However I never for one second got it confused with an iphone.. I love Samsung phones but some of their phones did look like blatant copies.. I agree that a rectangle should not be patented but i also think that Apple has a right to not have their products copied so closely... That is why they won their case..
I'll probably get flamed for this post lol but its my opinion and I ain't afraid of it
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They should re try the case with better court circumstances, Americans don't know apple is bolting their opportunities to the floor with dead bolts using iPhone and iPad ios closed source software.
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If nothing else... It may be end of touchwiz. Time for Samsung to ship cm roms standard.
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