Hi!
I wonder if it's possible to port Meizu OS (see http://www.meizume.com/ or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meizu_M8) to our HTC devices?
I think it's a really cool OS that would be awsome to have on a HTC phone, and since it's based on Windows CE6.0 maybe it isn't that hard to port? Just a guess
I think the kind people at the MEIZUME.COM forum would give us a dump of the ROM if we ask kindly
nobody knows if this is possible?
behnaam said:
nobody knows if this is possible?
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no offense but how be we concentrate on finishing up the various ports of Android for HTC devices 1st.
Well... did CE6.0 change a lot as far as driver interface compared to CE5.0?
I doubt it will work.
The M8 uses Windows CE6 with a Custom Shell made by Meizu.
You would have to also port the drivers of our Windows CE5.2 Devices to CE6 and at the moment no one knows if that is possible or how long it would take.
That's what I mean, though. Is porting of drivers required or is the driver model the same?
Drivers are not the same and would have to be rewritten.... which is not an easy task.
windows mobile 7 is based on ce 6 so it will be possible then. until then... we wait.
okay, thanks for the replies! thought it was easier to port windows made stuff to windows made stuff but I seems like it was easier to port android to our phones lol
hello, will there be wm7 port to test windos 7 on htc desire hd?
c4940 said:
hello, will there be wm7 port to test windos 7 on htc desire hd?
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In case you haven't noticed, this is an ANDROID device.
Nobody will even want to reverse-engineer the drivers for WM, let alone a kernel (nk.exe). Who would want to perform such a sacrilege?
good to know so should i but android or windos phone?
i need it for multimedia and fast use
If you want a Windows device, get a HD7. I personally don't see a reason to put Windows mobile on a DHD, Android outclasses WM imo.
Moving thread as in not HDH specific. More like a General question are. Let's go over there.
Is there a way to get a webOS ROM and G1 or HTC Magic? I believe the webOS SDK (https://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&layout=page&id=1788) is opensource like Android is.
Android is open sourced, but drivers for network connections aren't... There is no way to port web os for android devices... (if i'm not mistaken)
sickleman said:
Android is open sourced, but drivers for network connections aren't... There is no way to port web os for android devices... (if i'm not mistaken)
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They are both Linux based so why not pull the wireless from android and port it to webOS?
Drivers belong to f.e. HTC/Motorola, so there is no way to pull them from OS in usable (uncompiled) version. I think if it could be possible, there would be a lot of linux based ROMs first (like for some siemens old devices)...
It's a kind of defense from ideas like yours...
This is what I said to someone who asked this Q, but about WP7...
"Porting it to Android phones is illegal, the only exception is porting WP7 to other WinMo phones only....This is the same reason why WebOS can't be ported to other phones, you will get a C&D from Microsoft or worse if you attempt to have the OS on non-Windows phones. WP7, WinMo, WebOS, and iOS are all closed-sourced, unlike android you can't have those OSes on any device."
Now WebOS has some things that are open, but it's not fully open like Android. HP wouldn't allow such a thing, if you've try porting WinMo/WP7 , or another closed OS, you'll be told to quit it. The SDK isn't there for people to port it to other phones, but to develop apps, and other things for the pre line and other Webos native devices....And WebOS would be to slow on the 1st Gen Android phones...It was slow on the Pre 1, so it'll be slower on a 528MHz too. It's finally good on the 2nd Gen snapdragon, but look how big the Cpu Gen gap is...
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Drivers belong to f.e. HTC/Motorola, so there is no way to pull them from OS in usable (uncompiled) version. I think if it could be possible, there would be a lot of linux based ROMs first (like for some siemens old devices)...
It's a kind of defense from ideas like yours...
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Can a CM wireless module be edited to work with webOS? Like a webOS and CM merged rom for G1 and HTC Magic. Like some of the gingerbread roms for sapphire.
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This is what I said to someone who asked this Q, but about WP7...
"Porting it to Android phones is illegal, the only exception is porting WP7 to other WinMo phones only....This is the same reason why WebOS can't be ported to other phones, you will get a C&D from Microsoft or worse if you attempt to have the OS on non-Windows phones. WP7, WinMo, WebOS, and iOS are all closed-sourced, unlike android you can't have those OSes on any device."
Now WebOS has some things that are open, but it's not fully open like Android. HP wouldn't allow such a thing, if you've try porting WinMo/WP7 , or another closed OS, you'll be told to quit it. The SDK isn't there for people to port it to other phones, but to develop apps, and other things for the pre line and other Webos native devices....And WebOS would be to slow on the 1st Gen Android phones...It was slow on the Pre 1, so it'll be slower on a 528MHz too. It's finally good on the 2nd Gen snapdragon, but look how big the Cpu Gen gap is...
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WP7 is closed sourced that is the big deference.
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Can a CM wireless module be edited to work with webOS? Like a webOS and CM merged rom for G1 and HTC Magic. Like some of the gingerbread roms for sapphire.
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I don't think so... There was new type of java developed for Android (dalvik-java). I don't know how the WebOS is written, but it's not the same programming language for sure. Crossprogramming/crosscompiling is like copy polish text to english homework. Trust me, it won't work at all.
Dokładnie jak teraz, nie sądzę, żebyś cokolwiek z tego co tutaj piszę zrozumiał, ale i tak pozdrawiam Ciebie, jak również innych polaków korzystających z XDA.
But there is one possibility to run WebOS on our devices! You have to write everything on your own. If you want write new drivers for network/gps/camera/etc modules you have to know how they are communicating with each others, and have a lot time and skills and informations (like datasheets for all microcontrollers in device) for writing all starting from nothing...
(There are problems in porting Honeycomb for other than originally supported devices... If it is so hard, about WebOS i think you can forget...)
Ofcourse everything is possible (like MacOSx on f.e. AMD or Atom based processors), but not everything is profitable. There have to be some issues causing HP abandon WebOS (and making it worst from other OSs) (I'm speculating, I don't know how WebOS is working and how is to work on WebOS..).
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WP7 is closed sourced that is the big deference.
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I know what I'm talking about...WebOS is closed sourced...You can't port it to non-palm/HP devices at all...It's not legal...
http://forums.precentral.net/webos-discussion/292920-we-need-team-port-webos-android-devices.html
If you don't believe goto that thread, or make a new one asking the question, the pal devs will tell you it can't be done.
So there is no way to get Android to look like webOS.
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So there is no way to get Android to look like webOS.
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There are themes that were made very very long ago, doubt you'll find them again. However the "wave launcher" from WebOS is on Android, on the market.
http://androidcommunity.com/android-team-forced-to-pull-palm-pre-theme-20090814/
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There are themes that were made very very long ago, doubt you'll find them again. However the "wave launcher" from WebOS is on Android, on the market.
http://androidcommunity.com/android-team-forced-to-pull-palm-pre-theme-20090814/
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Have been looking for the theme as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1251829
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Will this now be possible now that HP has open sourced WebOS?
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Since WebOS is open source this is very "do-able", hell they ported Android to the iPhone, why not WebOS to an Android Device?
I post this here, as I can't post in development section.
Well, I downloaded the kernel sources for ChaCha in htcdev.com and I have some questions.
Why there is the source for drivers of hardware the ChaCha doesn't have?
Can the real hardware be guessed from the modules/drivers used in a kernel? Can we know that from the sources?
Can a different flavor of unix (maemo, tizen, webos, debian...) installed on ChaCha by compiling the right kernel? Will bootloader support that?
I come from a N900 where all this things were possible, up to the extents were open source drivers could be used. There is a site where up to the tiniest piece of hardware is identified with the N900.
If exists such a list of hardware of the ChaCha, maybe much better things could be done with the machine itself, even (maybe) 'port' things that other phones with the same or similar hardware does and ChaCha doesn't.
People that hacked the N900 (again) could get it to record videos up to 720p, wihch the N900 didn't support, and even run many games of the Palm Pre, that had almost the same hardware as N900.
Thanks all for reading this.
Hi, I have seen many android phones with a decent specs that look much better than WP7 phone currently on the market.
WP7 Phones mostly use almost out dated hardware of android phones. Example, new Nokia Lumia 900 use Snapdragon 1.4ghz single core and Adreno 205 which are mostly found in last year android phones.
so if the same hardware found in android phones, is there any custom WP7/WP7.5 ROM for similar Android Phones's hardware ?
any "strong" dev can port it ?
2 questions.
there are skins that allow your android device to look like wp7. why not try that?
since wp7 runs perfectly well on single core wvga resolution so why not get a proper wp?
if i'm not wrong, wp7 is not designed to work with dual core, and anything higher than wvga resolution so it isn't that easy. also, people who like the look and feel of wp7 would tend to do my first point, while those who really want the functionality of wp7 would just get a wp, so the market isn't that big.
i could be wrong though
Illeagality
tangbunna said:
so if the same hardware found in android phones, is there any custom WP7/WP7.5 ROM for similar Android Phones's hardware ?
any "strong" dev can port it ?
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Whilst it is true that nearly any developer could port it seeing how close some windows phone 7 and android phones are in terms of hardware. Take the desire s and the radar for example.
However windows phone 7 is not an open source operating system like android. Effectively it is the same a a standard desktop version of windows in terms of the legality of installing it. You need to buy a license and the only way to do this is buy a phone with it pre installed. This license is also non transferable. Also Microsoft record a hardware ID for each phone they license wp7 to run on and this ID is required to use features such as the app store and xbox live. Whilst you could port it you wouldn't be able to use 90% of the features not due to incompatibility but due to the fact that the Microsoft servers wouldn't let you.
Also are you aware that by asking someone to port it you are violating the forum rules with regard to piracy?
Wp 7.5 rom is available for htc hd2 (leo)
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girish07 said:
Wp 7.5 rom is available for htc hd2 (leo)
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That's rather surprising, but probably only possible because the hardware of the HD2 is *very* close to the hardware of some "true" WP7 phones, especially display resolution.
Display is important because WP7 so far is strongly resolution dependent - it simply won't run with anything else than 800 x 480. Maybe with the right drivers the OS itself would run, but countless apps would probably produce nonsense with another resolution.
im gona try this found that some devices like lumia 610 / 510 / and samsung galaxy s duos have almost same specifications but problem is that androids have less gpu and wont do with windows phone but it would be alot more faster if we do that