I was just wondering if we could have the andriod os on the VOX
Before it runs on Vox, it should maybe run on just one device^^ Wait for releases of a phones with Android. Nobody has the knowledge to port it, except maybe the linux guys, because it's linux-based. So maybe, maybe not, depends on driver support and a guy who ports it!
http://www.pocketables.net/2008/07/android-install.html
is there a way to try it on vox?
There are a few HTC (and rebrand) phones that have had Android successfully boot! some have even gone so far as to have keyboards mapped properly and data plans working
interesting..
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Anyone have an Idea if the hardware on this tablet wold be enough to support Win8? Might be nice to hang onto til then.
Rumors public beta soon, Maybe..... Heck I donate $ for WinPhone7 Mango on this and more for Win8.
the hardware is capable of it but whether it can be ported is an entirely different question as its not a windows based device so its not gonna be as easy as porting android to it. Who knows maybe im wrong but I dont think we'll have a proper answer till closer to the time.
I was interested in this too. Either windows 7/8 or windows phone 7.5. But i'd be happy if they can port even android.
Hey Guys does anybody know that if lumia 710 can be dual booted(windows phone+android os) as htc-hd2(can check on youtube)??
Developers like ultrashot,lucifer3006,dft has blessed us with huge utilities of wp7 but can they make "THIS" happen????
Pretty unlikely. You'd have to make an Android firmware for the Lumia, which would require a bunch of drivers that aren't available. The HD2 is relatively easy to port to because there are lots of Android phones from HTC, plus people know a lot about the HD2's internals and can use tools like HaRET to study it. None of that is currently true with the Lumias.
That said, somebody could surprise me. Just don't hold your breath.
GoodDayToDie said:
Pretty unlikely. You'd have to make an Android firmware for the Lumia, which would require a bunch of drivers that aren't available. The HD2 is relatively easy to port to because there are lots of Android phones from HTC, plus people know a lot about the HD2's internals and can use tools like HaRET to study it. None of that is currently true with the Lumias.
That said, somebody could surprise me. Just don't hold your breath.
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but some nokia belle os devices are able to have android on them .. , would it be possible to have dualboot with belle os?
leostimac said:
but some nokia belle os devices are able to have android on them .. , would it be possible to have dualboot with belle os?
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LOL DUDE!!! Symbian Devices from Nokia has locked UBOOT bootloaders, so Installing android on them is not possible. Maybe you are pointing at Nokia N9 which is not a symbian phone, and it runs on MeeGo OS which is Linux-based... Like he said earlier, Installing android on Lumia is not possible yet, but let's wait for our friendly devs to fix that... hehe
Noob question, i dont understand why Windows os can run on allmost all computers and why Android roms does not ?
Because windows is a computer OS and Android is a mobile Os
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I mean why Android roms for example Cynaogenmode 9 for Samsung cant go also on HTC if im not wrong, but windows can run on all computer.. i just dont understand why ??, I'm just started new flashing roms ecc. I was used to the pc that was so simple.
Tauros360 said:
I mean why Android roms for example Cynaogenmode 9 for Samsung cant go also on HTC if im not wrong, but windows can run on all computer.. i just dont understand why ??, I'm just started new flashing roms ecc. I was used to the pc that was so simple.
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Because Windows os support x32 x64 and you can install drivers for your computer.
aleranol said:
Because Windows os support x32 x64 and you can install drivers for your computer.
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I dinnt understand well, butt why they cant do this also on smarphones, for example on the computer you got the Bios and if somthing goes wrong with your OS you can always go to the bios ecc. But why they dont do the same on phones ?
Windows : An OS : Runs on PCs
Android : Also an OS : Runs on smart phones
Some basic common sense..
So this question is pointless
aleranol said:
Because Windows os support x32 x64 and you can install drivers for your computer.
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DD-Ripper said:
Windows : An OS : Runs on PCs
Android : Also an OS : Runs on smart phones
Some basic common sense..
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Im started new flashing roms ecc. i still dont have much experience, first i thought that the Clockworkmode ecc was a smartphone Bios but then on the internet i read about many people briking phones by flashing wrong roms ecc. when i firs was thinking that you could always recover from Cwm like on the computer Bios but it was'n like this. So i was thinking, why ? there isnt something like a bios on the android phones ? so you can always recover if something goes wrong ?
actually this is an excellent question......whats so hard abt having a mothwrboard that boots up in bios....nad then it allows u to install whatever system u want. after that u get to download drivers for ur hardware from some system driver pool....basically most phones have the closely the same hardware in our days especially when u can make use of sd cards as an external source like dvds nd cds.....the question is why r smartphones os's built in a different way and what stops them from being composed this way? isnt it more logical?
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Im started new flashing roms ecc. i still dont have much experience, first i thought that the Clockworkmode ecc was a smartphone Bios but then on the internet i read about many people briking phones by flashing wrong roms ecc. when i firs was thinking that you could always recover from Cwm like on the computer Bios but it was'n like this. So i was thinking, why ? there isnt something like a bios on the android phones ? so you can always recover if something goes wrong ?
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Cwm=1/2bios. Windows is open for all part combination with drivers. But android or other mobile os are cant support different drivers. Companies select os and other parts and develop correct drivers for parts and os. Mobile devices have special drivers. But pcs are have open for all drivers.
This text hard for me because i m turk.
This is a fantastic question! Essentially what has happened over the years is chip makers have designed their hardware around the windows os, and they have been able to do so because the windows os is a boxed software that, for the most part, cannot be changed. The Android os on the other hand is open sourced and can be tweaked 10 ways to Sunday, which is why most of us prefer it over ios or win mobile. The downside (kind of) is that the phones and tablets are specifically designed around the os and the os around the device. So in order to upgrade the os either the manufacturer (Samsung, Motorola etc) has to develop one or one of the brilliant coders out there has to work on developing one from the source code when it is released by Google. Hope this helps.
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Great question, Many answers definitely.
Android OS are built around the phones, around specific devices.
For example:
GS3 and Note 2 are built on somewhat the same,
so odds are specific roms are ported to GS3 ( Serenity 1.2)
but GS3 and HTC One X are two totally different companies with two different builds of components so you'd not have a port from a Note 2 to One X.
It's logic once you look into the components of a phone and how they're built VS how computers are built and such.
GPU, CPU, Storage, etc on a PC are all parted,where-as on a phone they're soldiered onto one main board.
garbour said:
This is a fantastic question! Essentially what has happened over the years is chip makers have designed their hardware around the windows os, and they have been able to do so because the windows os is a boxed software that, for the most part, cannot be changed. The Android os on the other hand is open sourced and can be tweaked 10 ways to Sunday, which is why most of us prefer it over ios or win mobile. The downside (kind of) is that the phones and tablets are specifically designed around the os and the os around the device. So in order to upgrade the os either the manufacturer (Samsung, Motorola etc) has to develop one or one of the brilliant coders out there has to work on developing one from the source code when it is released by Google. Hope this helps.
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Now i understand, thanks i was thinking it would be possible to build phones with a Bios and basic drivers preinstalled in the motherboard, just to run android, and then from there find the driver updates ecc for its own device. That would be much easier for all of us to flash roms, kernels ecc without the risk of briking divices, and also now a days the smartphones are almost like real computers ecc. I think if you got an HTC + 1.7 Ghz x 4 you wouldn't like stop receiving updates for your stock or custom rom because its still a good piece of hardware, and also even if i would got to pay 20 $ for an Android upgrade i wouldn't mind, i think an something thing like a bios in a phone will give a piece of mind for everyone, and it would be much easier.
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caha2639 said:
Great question, Many answers definitely.
Android OS are built around the phones, around specific devices.
For example:
GS3 and Note 2 are built on somewhat the same,
so odds are specific roms are ported to GS3 ( Serenity 1.2)
but GS3 and HTC One X are two totally different companies with two different builds of components so you'd not have a port from a Note 2 to One X.
It's logic once you look into the components of a phone and how they're built VS how computers are built and such.
GPU, CPU, Storage, etc on a PC are all parted,where-as on a phone they're soldiered onto one main board.
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But for example if HTC,Samsung and all manufacturers . install on there mother board a bios + basic drivers for input output ecc. and to separate Android from it. So you could then have a one Android for all. And devs could focus mainly to the functionality and less to the compatibility. It would be fantastic :thumbup:
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As simple answer: Most android devices use a lot of closed source/specification hardware.
Plus locked/partially locked bootloader
In windows (and linux too) kernel there is a lot of closed blobs which work fine on pc because they were precompiled under x86 arch, but there's no use for them on our arm devices.
If we had open specifications and hardware device, we wouldn't have any trouble getting OS in there(that's what china manufacturer do)
As usual - the only issue is copyright.
Go OSS!
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Android and windows have more in common then anyone is letting on.
Wi ndows is closed source some other android is closed. Some of is is open.
Even though most of yours computers have windows dosnt mean that you can take the hard drive from one computer and expect for the Oscar to boot while in another computer. They all have drivers that are gding to be different.
Computers have biOs because of many different reasons. Computers are versatile smartphones are a relatively specialsized piece of equipment.
The question you ask has an answer but I think the same question can be asked aboout the differences between a couch and a chair. Someone just thought of a way to do somthing and it became the standard. Again computers freeway more advanced then smartphones. How many boot devices can you have on a smart phone? MAybe 2. Computers can have many hdds, many optical, many usb devices, many network boots...etc etc
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Tauros360 said:
Noob question, i dont understand why Windows os can run on allmost all computers and why Android roms does not ?
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Windows has been around forever.
pixelshuck said:
As simple answer: Most android devices use a lot of closed source/specification hardware.
Plus locked/partially locked bootloader
In windows (and linux too) kernel there is a lot of closed blobs which work fine on pc because they were precompiled under x86 arch, but there's no use for them on our arm devices.
If we had open specifications and hardware device, we wouldn't have any trouble getting OS in there(that's what china manufacturer do)
As usual - the only issue is copyright.
Go OSS!
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So in chinese phones its possible to do this ? For example on my computer i have tried windows, ubuntu ecc all on the same hardware. so in chinese phone its possible to boot Android or Windows 8 mobile on the same hardware ? i dont understand now, its is possible but manufactures dont do it or its a tecnical problem. ?
Tauros360 said:
So in chinese phones its possible to do this ? For example on my computer i have tried windows, ubuntu ecc all on the same hardware. so in chinese phone its possible to boot Android or Windows 8 mobile on the same hardware ? i dont understand now, its is possible but manufactures dont do it or its a tecnical problem. ?
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No it doesn't matter. It is alot of closed source stuff in windows. Not to mention MS would C&D anyone that may even try. Even the new windows 8 32 bit pc systems have a locked bootloader so you can't change the OS
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pixelshuck said:
As simple answer: Most android devices use a lot of closed source/specification hardware.
Plus locked/partially locked bootloader
In windows (and linux too) kernel there is a lot of closed blobs which work fine on pc because they were precompiled under x86 arch, but there's no use for them on our arm devices.
If we had open specifications and hardware device, we wouldn't have any trouble getting OS in there(that's what china manufacturer do)
As usual - the only issue is copyright.
Go OSS!
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potna said:
Android and windows have more in common then anyone is letting on.
Wi ndows is closed source some other android is closed. Some of is is open.
Even though most of yours computers have windows dosnt mean that you can take the hard drive from one computer and expect for the Oscar to boot while in another computer. They all have drivers that are gding to be different.
Computers have biOs because of many different reasons. Computers are versatile smartphones are a relatively specialsized piece of equipment.
The question you ask has an answer but I think the same question can be asked aboout the differences between a couch and a chair. Someone just thought of a way to do somthing and it became the standard. Again computers freeway more advanced then smartphones. How many boot devices can you have on a smart phone? MAybe 2. Computers can have many hdds, many optical, many usb devices, many network boots...etc etc
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Im a little confused because i dont have any experience in how software and hardware runs together even i would like to learn it , all i know is that i cant put an AMD CPU on a Intel compatible motherboard, but an AMD and intel computers can run both on windows, Ubuntu, ecc. So now i understand that almost all Smartphones have diffrent hardware, but they can not all run on a one Android version, but Android needs to be customized to the hardware. Am i wright ? Do you think if manufactures produce there hardware to fit in a one Android version, and devs focus in a one Android version, and also roms could be compatible for all devices, if im not wrong. Because what i sow now is that many devs work more on compatibility, and if it was the other way they could realy focus on the functionality of Roms ecc. I'm still new in this world and i have a lot of things to learn, so im asking you guys, because you know more than me, so i could learn somthing from you.
Biggest problem of mobile devices is lack of good boot "catcher", as in BIOS, whom would allow custom kernel load.
Despite being binary compable(not always), the way android is being started differs.
The best we are getting is unlocked BL, but never open one.
Also, you have mentioned china devices.
On some chinese smartphones fully open bootloader is present, that's why it is possible to launch ubuntu and even windows(on atom tablets).
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Hi dears,
I would like to know if there is a rom of wp8 for htc 7pro ,
if does not exist, will it be realised in future?
Thanks
Simply put.... in our dreams
htc7pro said:
Hi dears,
I would like to know if there is a rom of wp8 for htc 7pro ,
if does not exist, will it be realised in future?
Thanks
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it would be highly unlikely for it to be ported to any windows phone 7 device as it runs a different software core then wp7. at the core of wp7.x is windows mobile and at the core of wp8 is windows so likely many of the drivers would not be compatible any more... and even if it could be it would likely suffer from very poor performance. and on top of it our device is not all that popular of a device ... so if I had to rate the likelihood of a port on a one to ten scale. One being not happening and Ten being it's practically written in stone - a 2 maybe a 3
sorry ... try one of the 7.8 roms if you want the look of 8 right now
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it would be highly unlikely for it to be ported to any windows phone 7 device as it runs a different software core then wp7. at the core of wp7.x is windows mobile and at the core of wp8 is windows so likely many of the drivers would not be compatible any more... and even if it could be it would likely suffer from very poor performance. and on top of it our device is not all that popular of a device ... so if I had to rate the likelihood of a port on a one to ten scale. One being not happening and Ten being it's practically written in stone - a 2 maybe a 3
sorry ... try one of the 7.8 roms if you want the look of 8 right now
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Id actually give it a 5 or 6 it will be difficult but far from impossible, we have already seen wp8 running on the HD2 which has the same specs as the arrive, and other first generation WP7 phones, the first generation phones are fully capable of running wp8 as far as the hardware is concerned its more just a matter of compatibility with drivers and such.
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Id actually give it a 5 or 6 it will be difficult but far from impossible, we have already seen wp8 running on the HD2 which has the same specs as the arrive, and other first generation WP7 phones, the first generation phones are fully capable of running wp8 as far as the hardware is concerned its more just a matter of compatibility with drivers and such.
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has that rom reached stability?
HD2 has SD card slot and known configuration. You all are invited to HaRET WP7 testing. When finished, HTC7Pro hardware can be able to host much different operating systems.
Martin7Pro said:
HD2 has SD card slot and known configuration. You all are invited to HaRET WP7 testing. When finished, HTC7Pro hardware can be able to host much different operating systems.
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Thank you very much. How can I take part in the HaRET WP7 testing? I would be glad if I could be of any assistance.
Kind regards,
DAC324
DAC324 said:
Thank you very much. How can I take part in the HaRET WP7 testing? I would be glad if I could be of any assistance.
Kind regards,
DAC324
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I finished HaRET WP7 testing, becasuse it is danger, my HTC7Pro was destroyed by it. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483377&page=41#post64252180