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WM 7?

Anyone know any specifics about release dates etc? Wouldn't mind changing 6.5 for something a little newer. If I hadn't absolutely hated Nokia and Mac I would've started looking for something else by now
Cheers!

tiwas said:
Anyone know any specifics about release dates etc? Wouldn't mind changing 6.5 for something a little newer. If I hadn't absolutely hated Nokia and Mac I would've started looking for something else by now
Cheers!
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October to November is currently the best guess.
Recent rumours are suggesting that there may be two different versions of WM7, a stripped down "Business" version and a richer "Media" one, with Business being out Q4 this year, and Media not till next year.

if they split it up like that then I wonder why they'd need 6.5 anymore....
I recall first plans were WM 6.5 for media hype and WM 7 for business. Even if I thought this didn't make a lot sense to not have the new OS for media bimm bamm.

Rumours are also that it's no longer based on Windows CE, but on the Zune HD kernel instead; that it WON'T be backwards compatible with earlier versions, and won't run on 99.9% of existing WM devices.

FloatingFatMan said:
Rumours are also that it's no longer based on Windows CE, but on the Zune HD kernel instead; that it WON'T be backwards compatible with earlier versions, and won't run on 99.9% of existing WM devices.
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Well if that rumor turns out to be true then I can only imagine the disappointment of some.

cerebralgenius said:
Well if that rumor turns out to be true then I can only imagine the disappointment of some.
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IF the rumours are true, it'll be a blow for existing software BUT, a good step for Microsof to take. I mean, have you seen the Zune HD's UI? WM7 is meant to be using that, and if so, iPhone is in trouble.

well if it runs .net then at least some apps would work

There is even newer rumor or supposedly unofficial response from microsoft, about this CE rumor. Ant it states, that Wm 7 bill be using CE7. And CE7 was already offcialy announced as to it will be using ARMv6 arhitecture.
And there is a Microsoft Commercial, where you can see some WM7-style thing beeing run on HTC touch Pro, and Xperia X1. So ported it will be, but how fast will it work on such devices, having only MSM7200.

FloatingFatMan said:
Rumours are also that it's no longer based on Windows CE, but on the Zune HD kernel instead; that it WON'T be backwards compatible with earlier versions, and won't run on 99.9% of existing WM devices.
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It's false.
I don't know if it definitely CE7, though it probably is. I am hearing that it can run 6.x apps so long as they are the same resolution. Trying to get more info.

RAMMANN said:
if they split it up like that then I wonder why they'd need 6.5 anymore....
I recall first plans were WM 6.5 for media hype and WM 7 for business. Even if I thought this didn't make a lot sense to not have the new OS for media bimm bamm.
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6.5 is for cheaper, lower-specification hardware. Remember that the HD2 represents the least powerful, lowest resolution device capable of running WM7. Any new WM phone with a hardware spec in any way inferior to the HD2 will run WM6.5 instead of 7.

read this:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=12237
there's only 1 choice left for us: 100% stable android rom.

Shasarak said:
6.5 is for cheaper, lower-specification hardware. Remember that the HD2 represents the least powerful, lowest resolution device capable of running WM7. Any new WM phone with a hardware spec in any way inferior to the HD2 will run WM6.5 instead of 7.
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I think that Windows Mobile 7 will be ported and modded to run on older HTC devices too

Win_XP said:
I think that Windows Mobile 7 will be ported and modded to run on older HTC devices too
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Yeah, I reeeeeally don't think there will be an official WM7 rom for my Fuze, but I'm hoping the chefs here will be able to make a stripped down version.

Win_XP said:
I think that Windows Mobile 7 will be ported and modded to run on older HTC devices too
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I'm not 100% sure about that. The problem is that Windows Mobile 7 will run on either Windows CE 6 or 7, as opposed to the Windows CE 5 comprising Windows Mobile 5.x and 6.x. Someone will likely have to create nearly every low level component from scratch, so the OS will support the older unsupported hardware. It might be doable, but it won't be as simple as running 6.5 on a WM 6 device. There's a thread here which goes into more detail concerning Windows Mobile 7 on a current generation device (Touch Pro2), and it doesn't look good.

malatesta said:
It's false.
I don't know if it definitely CE7, though it probably is. I am hearing that it can run 6.x apps so long as they are the same resolution. Trying to get more info.
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Until MS officially announce something, everything we hear about WM7 is going to be rumour; and one rumour can't refute another because they're both just that, rumours.
We'll have to see if they drop any more info in Feb.

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I'm not 100% sure about that. The problem is that Windows Mobile 7 will run on either Windows CE 6 or 7, as opposed to the Windows CE 5 comprising Windows Mobile 5.x and 6.x. Someone will likely have to create nearly every low level component from scratch, so the OS will support the older unsupported hardware. It might be doable, but it won't be as simple as running 6.5 on a WM 6 device.
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Well it was also possible to run 6.5 on PPC 2003 devices. Probably not really stable but it was possible. but anyway I don't really care. 6.5.x will stay on my Topaz and I'll pick up a new phone for WM 7 of course

http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/01/18/everything-you-need-to-know-about-windows-mobile-7/

Win_XP said:
I think that Windows Mobile 7 will be ported and modded to run on older HTC devices too
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DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I'm not 100% sure about that. The problem is that Windows Mobile 7 will run on either Windows CE 6 or 7, as opposed to the Windows CE 5 comprising Windows Mobile 5.x and 6.x. Someone will likely have to create nearly every low level component from scratch, so the OS will support the older unsupported hardware. It might be doable, but it won't be as simple as running 6.5 on a WM 6 device. There's a thread here which goes into more detail concerning Windows Mobile 7 on a current generation device (Touch Pro2), and it doesn't look good.
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RAMMANN said:
Well it was also possible to run 6.5 on PPC 2003 devices. Probably not really stable but it was possible. but anyway I don't really care. 6.5.x will stay on my Topaz and I'll pick up a new phone for WM 7 of course
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Yes, but every version of Windows Mobile from 5.0 onwards has been based on the same Windows CE kernel; that's one reason why other OSes (like Android) run so much faster than WinMo on the same hardware, and permit 720p video recording, etc. - a lot of the underlying code in WinMo hasn't been upgraded in six years.
To put it in desktop PC terms, going from Windows Mobile 5.0 all the way up to WinMo 6.5 is the equivalent of going from Windows 95 to Windows ME - it's still basically the same OS, just with a few tweaks to the UI. By contrast, going to WM7 will be like going from Windows ME to Windows Vista - a completely different operating system kernel, with a completely different driver model.
The drivers will be the biggest problem. Unless there is some device out there that officially runs WM7 and which uses exactly the same component as one on your target platform, there simply won't be anywhere you can get a driver file from; and even if such a thing exists, piecing together complete support for every component of a device by picking and choosing driver files from many different platforms would be an enormous effort.
There is a reasonable chance that we will see WM7 running on the HD2, even if there isn't an official release; that's because HTC is apparently using the HD2 as a WM7 development platform, so if someone leaks the ROM they use for testing, the cooks here could probably cobble together something reasonable using it as a basis. But for any other device, realistically there is no chance at all.

Look Here
Its CE 7.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618631

odd would be the first time ever ms made a wm release based on a ce core not available already and tested for stability

[Q] Switch between Android, Win Phone 7, and WinMo 6.5 on the same device?

hi guys,
I'd like to know if it possible because I've been using my Xperia x1 for about a year and i think it's time for a change but when I checked all the available phones I got confused a little.
it seems like Windows phone 7 looks great but in a review i saw somewhere it says that it lacks some important features such as:
No Bluetooth file transfers
No USB mass storage mode
No multitasking
No copy/paste
No Flash or Silverlight support in the web browser
No DivX/XviD video support
No internet tethering support
Swapping memory card requires hard reset; cards not readable by computer
and Android has great features but IMO I think WinMo gives more freedom in the terms of using or hacking
and as a WinMo 6.5 user I find it a great OS with all the features needed and if there some feature I want that is not already offered it's available here on XDA-Dev either as a .cab or cooked in a ROM
So the Main Question: if I buy a Sonyericsson (X10 maybe) or a HTC with a 1 GHz Processor will I be able to install any OS of them as a ROM???
Thanx in advance.

The only device capable of running WP7 is the hTC Leo and it has actually working Android and some working on Ubuntu and Maemo as well.
not any other device will be capable to do so

Thanx for reply
So the HD2/Leo is able to handle all 3 OSs
but i have more questions please
how is the HD2 up to date regarding the specs? like the RAM, ROM, and processor
can there be 2 OSs in the same time and to be able to switch between them?
and does android 2.2 froyo work 100% i mean with everything working??
thanx again

ahmedsalem89 said:
it seems like Windows phone 7 looks great
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I'm intreagued, what about the duplo phone looks great to you?

The basic HD2 specs are up to date on paper (RAM, ROM, processor) and even beat some newer phones but dig deep and you'll see the latest version of the chips are better. Android 2.2 is running perfectly but WP7 is still work in progress.
It's more than a year old but still the best phone EVER.

samizad said:
The basic HD2 specs are up to date on paper (RAM, ROM, processor) and even beat some newer phones but dig deep and you'll see the latest version of the chips are better. Android 2.2 is running perfectly but WP7 is still work in progress.
It's more than a year old but still the best phone EVER.
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Well, it's clear now that the HD2 is one of the best phones out there as it's capable of handling nearly the 3 OSs, Thanx for ur help

Any chance for Desire to use WP7 too?
I would be great if it is possible.
I wanna try WP7 too.

[Q] what phone???

hiya there people...
im looking for a phone that allows dual boot. i want to run android aswell as windows. what phones do you know that are available which are good spec that allow me to do this.
many thanks

The HTC HD2 will do as you ask. You run WimMo from the handset, and Android from the SD card. Check the HD2 forum for more info!

sissons said:
hiya there people...
im looking for a phone that allows dual boot. i want to run android aswell as windows. what phones do you know that are available which are good spec that allow me to do this.
many thanks
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I would say HD2 too, but it's already an outdated phone. If it's really necessary to have Windows on-board, then you could probably wait for some of the new W7 phones to be customized. Keep checking for example the HD7 development forums.

sissons said:
hiya there people...
im looking for a phone that allows dual boot. i want to run android aswell as windows. what phones do you know that are available which are good spec that allow me to do this.
many thanks
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I was just curious as to why you want this? Don't get me wrong, I like both OS's but android is far ahead in OS/app development and MS is stalling by saying the next Windows will be when they focus on handheld dev.
Is there a certain piece of the current Win phones you like that isn't present in android?

Xperia X8

[Q] Can I Install Amdroid into my Nokia Lumia 710 - Windows 7.5 Mango

Hi,
I am completely frustrated from my Window 7.5 Mango.
I was using Android, having lots of apps in market/rooting etc. As compare to Android, Mango is nothing
Could anybody guide me to install Android into my Nokia Lumia 710

...no you can't...If you don't like it, sell it....

So can i install Windows 6.5 into Mango?
Thanks for ur reply,,,
I was having many apps & cracks for window 6.5. So is it possible to install Win 6.5 into my mobile -Lumia 710 ?
My main motive is to install apps/game into my mobile, but in windows market place I am not finding good apps for free (not even paid)

buddheshwar said:
Thanks for ur reply,,,
I was having many apps & cracks for window 6.5. So is it possible to install Win 6.5 into my mobile -Lumia 710 ?
My main motive is to install apps/game into my mobile, but in windows market place I am not finding good apps for free (not even paid)
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You'll find much better apps for WP compared to Windows Mobile. It's sad you decided to buy a phone without doing any research whatsoever.

buddheshwar said:
Hi,
I am completely frustrated from my Window 7.5 Mango.
I was using Android, having lots of apps in market/rooting etc. As compare to Android, Mango is nothing
Could anybody guide me to install Android into my Nokia Lumia 710
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Actually... get in touch with the other guy who wants to put WP 7 on his Inspire 4G and switch devices.

Actually just wait a while, I think I heard some where that DFT is working on a ROM for 2nd gen devices. Then you will be fully unlocked and able to customize and even have Bluetooth file transfer and so on.

sinister1 said:
Actually just wait a while, I think I heard some where that DFT is working on a ROM for 2nd gen devices. Then you will be fully unlocked and able to customize and even have Bluetooth file transfer and so on.
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kindly keep me in loop.
Thanks

that;s a dream that seems will never come true
never heard a wp device could use other system,except HD2

buddheshwar said:
Hi,
I am completely frustrated from my Window 7.5 Mango.
I was using Android, having lots of apps in market/rooting etc. As compare to Android, Mango is nothing
Could anybody guide me to install Android into my Nokia Lumia 710
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i have lots of apps and rooted my htc 7 pro. the problem is not in the OS, its up to you! and only you! if you dont like wp7 why do you buyed it?
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fengjch127 said:
that;s a dream that seems will never come true
never heard a wp device could use other system,except HD2
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yeah and HD2 is a windows mobile device... which also can boot wp7 or android

sinister1 said:
Actually just wait a while, I think I heard some where that DFT is working on a ROM for 2nd gen devices. Then you will be fully unlocked and able to customize and even have Bluetooth file transfer and so on.
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2nd gen HTC's not Nokia sadly. The only real solution is if you want a phone that has Android on it buy an Android phone. If you want a phone that has iOS on it buy an iPhone. If you want something thay you can hack the hell out of buy an HD2. Or you can be like me and do all of the above

i am also looking for similar solution...unfortunately right now there is no android solution....the most recent progress is interior unlocked the phone, similar to the rooting concept. Microsft and Nokia are extremely picky about allowing changes.
unlock link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599401
buddheshwar said:
Hi,
I am completely frustrated from my Window 7.5 Mango.
I was using Android, having lots of apps in market/rooting etc. As compare to Android, Mango is nothing
Could anybody guide me to install Android into my Nokia Lumia 710
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Three questions:
1. If you wanted Android, why the heck did you buy a Windows phone?
2. If you already know that people haven't yet ported Android to the Lumia 710, why did you ask? That thread talks about the progress toward doing this, and says it doesn't work yet.
3. Why are you posting a device-specific question in the general WP7 Q&A forum? I mean, you linked to the exact Q&A thread relevant to your question. You could also check the Lumia 800 (typically also includes 710 since they are almost identical internally) Development sub-forum, and read the unlock/NAND-access thread there...

GoodDayToDie said:
Three questions:
1. If you wanted Android, why the heck did you buy a Windows phone?
2. If you already know that people haven't yet ported Android to the Lumia 710, why did you ask? That thread talks about the progress toward doing this, and says it doesn't work yet.
3. Why are you posting a device-specific question in the general WP7 Q&A forum? I mean, you linked to the exact Q&A thread relevant to your question. You could also check the Lumia 800 (typically also includes 710 since they are almost identical internally) Development sub-forum, and read the unlock/NAND-access thread there...
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This, along with no andriod on that phone.

buddheshwar said:
Hi,
I am completely frustrated from my Window 7.5 Mango.
I was using Android, having lots of apps in market/rooting etc. As compare to Android, Mango is nothing
Could anybody guide me to install Android into my Nokia Lumia 710
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I think if you tell us what exactly is frustrating we can maybe you help with that ?

v_garg said:
I think if you tell us what exactly is frustrating we can maybe you help with that ?
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frustrating for him is i think the approach, he purchased a wp7 but want android on it. that's funny, you dont buy a golf cab to race against an sports car. you buy a sports car not a comparison with that car to wp7
the second thing. he want maybe to try android, because of the hacking abilities and customization and bla bla... and in the end everyone, and believe me everyone switches to the stock things that you have on your phone since the first day. that's the same with nokia and symbian, eveyone of us wanted a cool background picture, "cool" sounds, gimicks, but in the end nokia had a very good interface and backgrounds and sounds. he purchased now a nokia lumia 710 for which people sit many weeks to think of the variety of sounds and lockscreen so that it suites all of us. and after 100 background i use now the stock ones... the same is with custom accent color, i used 150 different to come to the stock ones, which suites definitely the best! thats why microsoft said 9 10 accent are enough because we get in the end wp8

buddheshwar said:
Thanks for ur reply,,,
I was having many apps & cracks for window 6.5. So is it possible to install Win 6.5 into my mobile -Lumia 710 ?
My main motive is to install apps/game into my mobile, but in windows market place I am not finding good apps for free (not even paid)
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eemmmm..if i'm not mistaken the market for winmo has already dead isn't?lumia is more better than old Pocket PC,i think there will be a lot of chance to do "something" with it,imagine man..some of old PPC device has already running android on it(especially the great HD2),so don't give up to your device

galuh said:
eemmmm..if i'm not mistaken...
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emmmmm, thanks for giving new life to stupid useless one-year-old thread about aMdroid. We just could not wait for that....

AndrewSh said:
emmmmm, thanks for giving new life to stupid useless one-year-old thread about aMdroid. We just could not wait for that....
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Calm down, he was just trying to help.

For the record, WP isn't better than wm, two different devices for two different jobs, MS may have dumped one of them but I can state without doubt that WM is alive and kicking in the business world and will be for some time to come yet I bet the other thing to remember is that wm development kickstarted android, when droid took off all the devs split their focus, I wouldn't bank on their ever being a new " hd2 " ever again
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

It is possible to install custom rom
Just visit the site (windowsphonehub.in/tutorials/updating-unlocking-nokia-lumia-710-wp-7-8-jailbreak) every thing is provided there abt installation of custom rom

Windows Phone 7.5 Mango On Compatible Android Phone Hardware ??

Hi, I have seen many android phones with a decent specs that look much better than WP7 phone currently on the market.
WP7 Phones mostly use almost out dated hardware of android phones. Example, new Nokia Lumia 900 use Snapdragon 1.4ghz single core and Adreno 205 which are mostly found in last year android phones.
so if the same hardware found in android phones, is there any custom WP7/WP7.5 ROM for similar Android Phones's hardware ?
any "strong" dev can port it ?

2 questions.
there are skins that allow your android device to look like wp7. why not try that?
since wp7 runs perfectly well on single core wvga resolution so why not get a proper wp?
if i'm not wrong, wp7 is not designed to work with dual core, and anything higher than wvga resolution so it isn't that easy. also, people who like the look and feel of wp7 would tend to do my first point, while those who really want the functionality of wp7 would just get a wp, so the market isn't that big.
i could be wrong though

Illeagality
tangbunna said:
so if the same hardware found in android phones, is there any custom WP7/WP7.5 ROM for similar Android Phones's hardware ?
any "strong" dev can port it ?
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Whilst it is true that nearly any developer could port it seeing how close some windows phone 7 and android phones are in terms of hardware. Take the desire s and the radar for example.
However windows phone 7 is not an open source operating system like android. Effectively it is the same a a standard desktop version of windows in terms of the legality of installing it. You need to buy a license and the only way to do this is buy a phone with it pre installed. This license is also non transferable. Also Microsoft record a hardware ID for each phone they license wp7 to run on and this ID is required to use features such as the app store and xbox live. Whilst you could port it you wouldn't be able to use 90% of the features not due to incompatibility but due to the fact that the Microsoft servers wouldn't let you.
Also are you aware that by asking someone to port it you are violating the forum rules with regard to piracy?

Wp 7.5 rom is available for htc hd2 (leo)
Sent from my Legend using xda premium

Surprising
girish07 said:
Wp 7.5 rom is available for htc hd2 (leo)
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That's rather surprising, but probably only possible because the hardware of the HD2 is *very* close to the hardware of some "true" WP7 phones, especially display resolution.
Display is important because WP7 so far is strongly resolution dependent - it simply won't run with anything else than 800 x 480. Maybe with the right drivers the OS itself would run, but countless apps would probably produce nonsense with another resolution.

im gona try this found that some devices like lumia 610 / 510 / and samsung galaxy s duos have almost same specifications but problem is that androids have less gpu and wont do with windows phone but it would be alot more faster if we do that