Hi, I have seen many android phones with a decent specs that look much better than WP7 phone currently on the market.
WP7 Phones mostly use almost out dated hardware of android phones. Example, new Nokia Lumia 900 use Snapdragon 1.4ghz single core and Adreno 205 which are mostly found in last year android phones.
so if the same hardware found in android phones, is there any custom WP7/WP7.5 ROM for similar Android Phones's hardware ?
any "strong" dev can port it ?
2 questions.
there are skins that allow your android device to look like wp7. why not try that?
since wp7 runs perfectly well on single core wvga resolution so why not get a proper wp?
if i'm not wrong, wp7 is not designed to work with dual core, and anything higher than wvga resolution so it isn't that easy. also, people who like the look and feel of wp7 would tend to do my first point, while those who really want the functionality of wp7 would just get a wp, so the market isn't that big.
i could be wrong though
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tangbunna said:
so if the same hardware found in android phones, is there any custom WP7/WP7.5 ROM for similar Android Phones's hardware ?
any "strong" dev can port it ?
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Whilst it is true that nearly any developer could port it seeing how close some windows phone 7 and android phones are in terms of hardware. Take the desire s and the radar for example.
However windows phone 7 is not an open source operating system like android. Effectively it is the same a a standard desktop version of windows in terms of the legality of installing it. You need to buy a license and the only way to do this is buy a phone with it pre installed. This license is also non transferable. Also Microsoft record a hardware ID for each phone they license wp7 to run on and this ID is required to use features such as the app store and xbox live. Whilst you could port it you wouldn't be able to use 90% of the features not due to incompatibility but due to the fact that the Microsoft servers wouldn't let you.
Also are you aware that by asking someone to port it you are violating the forum rules with regard to piracy?
Wp 7.5 rom is available for htc hd2 (leo)
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Surprising
girish07 said:
Wp 7.5 rom is available for htc hd2 (leo)
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That's rather surprising, but probably only possible because the hardware of the HD2 is *very* close to the hardware of some "true" WP7 phones, especially display resolution.
Display is important because WP7 so far is strongly resolution dependent - it simply won't run with anything else than 800 x 480. Maybe with the right drivers the OS itself would run, but countless apps would probably produce nonsense with another resolution.
im gona try this found that some devices like lumia 610 / 510 / and samsung galaxy s duos have almost same specifications but problem is that androids have less gpu and wont do with windows phone but it would be alot more faster if we do that
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hi guys,
I'd like to know if it possible because I've been using my Xperia x1 for about a year and i think it's time for a change but when I checked all the available phones I got confused a little.
it seems like Windows phone 7 looks great but in a review i saw somewhere it says that it lacks some important features such as:
No Bluetooth file transfers
No USB mass storage mode
No multitasking
No copy/paste
No Flash or Silverlight support in the web browser
No DivX/XviD video support
No internet tethering support
Swapping memory card requires hard reset; cards not readable by computer
and Android has great features but IMO I think WinMo gives more freedom in the terms of using or hacking
and as a WinMo 6.5 user I find it a great OS with all the features needed and if there some feature I want that is not already offered it's available here on XDA-Dev either as a .cab or cooked in a ROM
So the Main Question: if I buy a Sonyericsson (X10 maybe) or a HTC with a 1 GHz Processor will I be able to install any OS of them as a ROM???
Thanx in advance.
The only device capable of running WP7 is the hTC Leo and it has actually working Android and some working on Ubuntu and Maemo as well.
not any other device will be capable to do so
Thanx for reply
So the HD2/Leo is able to handle all 3 OSs
but i have more questions please
how is the HD2 up to date regarding the specs? like the RAM, ROM, and processor
can there be 2 OSs in the same time and to be able to switch between them?
and does android 2.2 froyo work 100% i mean with everything working??
thanx again
ahmedsalem89 said:
it seems like Windows phone 7 looks great
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I'm intreagued, what about the duplo phone looks great to you?
The basic HD2 specs are up to date on paper (RAM, ROM, processor) and even beat some newer phones but dig deep and you'll see the latest version of the chips are better. Android 2.2 is running perfectly but WP7 is still work in progress.
It's more than a year old but still the best phone EVER.
samizad said:
The basic HD2 specs are up to date on paper (RAM, ROM, processor) and even beat some newer phones but dig deep and you'll see the latest version of the chips are better. Android 2.2 is running perfectly but WP7 is still work in progress.
It's more than a year old but still the best phone EVER.
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Well, it's clear now that the HD2 is one of the best phones out there as it's capable of handling nearly the 3 OSs, Thanx for ur help
Any chance for Desire to use WP7 too?
I would be great if it is possible.
I wanna try WP7 too.
Hey,
Why is there no android version for the N8?
Could anyone create it? There is enough animo for it.
If i read some forums I see that some people want it. Why not?
Also it has the best mobile camera in the world.
If someone can run android on it it would be the best device ever. (I think)
I could find an answer on this forum. But I think this is already changed.
(That there isn't enough animo for it. But there is!)
I'm also a newb in this world. But I like android and the compatibility that the most devices already have with it.
Kevin
I dont know if its that simple. I dont rly know if the android suitable for N8, anyway would be nice to have it (even though that i have HD2, which i think that is much better than N8.) If its possible, my friends will have android too! xD
indeed!
I think an android developer must buy an n8.. that he can see it's a wonderfull device.
And then create android for it.
Not all phones are like hd2, where you can have different os
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Not all people wants a HD2
you are not alone my friend!
I too wish the N8 had Android.
It is a much better device than the HD2, screen size isn't everything.
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Not all phones are like hd2, where you can have different os
Sent from HTC HD2 with Android
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anything is possible, it just takes time.
and in the HD2's favor, it had hardware that was common across different platforms.
plus a big userbase
Isnt the N8 nokia soft based on Debian? couldn't drivers be ported my friend has this device and yes the camera is amazing on it
I thougt it was only meego and maemo wich is debian based?
i was thinking to get a nokia n8 untill ive found out that nokia had very low quality development for that new symbian version, and that they moved torwards windows mobile... i never liked windows mobile and since they were not going for android i said whats the point, on paper the nokia n8 is amazing, but it has some problems aswell, for example the cpu is only 625mhz, while its arguably enough to run android, im not entirely sure it has all the instruction sets compatible with it, emulation is out of the question too, the android code would have to be natively changed to work for it, and then there had to be the matter of games, they also had to be coded properly for that specific gpu,cpu and sound chip, accelerometer and so on.
So thats why ppl dont usually port phones to android, its a mess to code and most of the drivers they have to code them from scratch.
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i was thinking to get a nokia n8 untill ive found out that nokia had very low quality development for that new symbian version, and that they moved torwards windows mobile... i never liked windows mobile and since they were not going for android i said whats the point, on paper the nokia n8 is amazing, but it has some problems aswell, for example the cpu is only 625mhz, while its arguably enough to run android, im not entirely sure it has all the instruction sets compatible with it, emulation is out of the question too, the android code would have to be natively changed to work for it, and then there had to be the matter of games, they also had to be coded properly for that specific gpu,cpu and sound chip, accelerometer and so on.
So thats why ppl dont usually port phones to android, its a mess to code and most of the drivers they have to code them from scratch.
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The CPU is official build for 750mhz. So it can run faster.. Also i heard that the new version of android (3.0?) has hardware acceleration for the UI. So the GPU can be used for it.
cpu for android need nore juice and ram.
battery life will be hunger for more to join android.
nokia seem battery effective device.low power consumption
under18 said:
cpu for android need nore juice and ram.
battery life will be hunger for more to join android.
nokia seem battery effective device.low power consumption
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Why?
The HTC ChaCha and Salsa has a 600 mhz processor... And still Android runs on it.
Indeed the ram is littlebit low 256 mb...
Chacha is 800Mhz, 512 of ram..
yeah i wish that someone would find a way to port android to n8 i recently got one and dont like symbian os, any way i'll keep on searching if no luck, guess i have to get an android phone
Edit: forgot to say i had a sony ericsson x8 which had 600 Mhz processor and 256mb ram and i was even able to run android 4.0 on it dunno why n8 would not run on this device
The question is why port android to N8? The N8 is a wonderful device as is. If you have an N8 you probably bought it for it's camera prowess. Bonus: you get a very long battery life (compared to droids). Now if you want to port android on it then it will become power hungry and will be full of glitches since it has poor dev support. Also, you wouldn't want a slow droid. 600mhz for a droid is quite slow, and as stated, the RAM is low. You're better off buying an affordable Galaxy Y. Believe me it's quite fast, if you can live with it's low res screen.
Cheers,
Cezar
kevinwalter said:
Hey,
Why is there no android version for the N8?
Could anyone create it? There is enough animo for it.
If i read some forums I see that some people want it. Why not?
Also it has the best mobile camera in the world.
If someone can run android on it it would be the best device ever. (I think)
I could find an answer on this forum. But I think this is already changed.
(That there isn't enough animo for it. But there is!)
I'm also a newb in this world. But I like android and the compatibility that the most devices already have with it.
Kevin
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it's not possible to port Android or any other OS to symbian phones because of locked bootloaders by Nokia
Nokia n9 is running meego OS which is with unlocked bootloaders and that's why this phone can have dual boot or just one OS like Android 4.x.x ICS
I want it too
I have an Nokia N8 too and i would love to run android on it.
So if there is any way to install android on it....
I also have nokia n8, it was really a great phone,hi quality build, superb. And I fine with symbian^3 but what bothering me was that the nokia apps store is getting useless. I need BBM and can't find any.
Is there any possibility of dual-booting IOS and and WP7 on an iPhone 4? I'm really interested in playing the Xbox Live games on my iPhone. So that's my main goal. If there is another way to do this, I would be interested in the info. Thanks!
Most likely not. Android can be ported to the iPhone because it is open source whereas windows phone 7 os is very much closed source.
Also, windows phone has special hardware requirements and, if im not mistaken, the Iphone 4 does NOT use the same qualcomm chipset as windows phone.
You would also have issues with your hi-res screen becasue windows phone only supports WVGA at the moment.
So it is probably not possible,
Sorry.
Without any source it won't be possible at all. That's why people have been successful in porting Android to the iPhone series.
Thanks. I figured that there was probably a reason why it hadn't been done yet. I appreciate the info!
Why dont ya just get a windows phone?
Ported OS to another phone will never work as smoothly as a real device dedicated for the job.
If you seen android running on the iPhone it was never really that usable. Even when i had the HD2 Android was still buggy and laggy.
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There is OS7, but it is a visual port only and still works just like iOS under the hood. I used it for a while on my iPhone 4.
Tried to search for this but couldnt find anything is it possible to get a mango ROM working on an android tablet?
There are loads of 7" Android tablets out there for under £60 not the biggest fan of android but would like a cheap tablet for quick browsing of web and showing photos to friends etc.
Would be cool if could get a mango ROM flashed onto one of those 7" tabs
That's a good question. I'd also be interested if it were possible to drop Mango onto a tablet that started out life as an Android. It'd have to be a 7" screen, and it'd have to have a capacitive screen
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That's a good question. I'd also be interested if it were possible to drop Mango onto a tablet that started out life as an Android. It'd have to be a 7" screen, and it'd have to have a capacitive screen
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Why does it have to be 7"? Resolution?
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Why does it have to be 7"? Resolution?
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I think we're pretty much locked to 800x480 resolution, which I suspect would look horrible on a 10" tablet
Yea but im sure if it possible to port people will figure out a way around that like a regist edit or something. Actully maybe on a bigger screen more tiles would be visible instead of only 8 tiles or 6 it would be like 12 or 14
That is an interesting question. I was wondering the same thing, which is how I found this thread...
First of all, it would have to be a tablet with a WP7-compatible CPU. Unlike most x86 chips used in PCs, different ARM chips may have incompatible kernel-mode interfaces, so the core of every OS must be built for that chip. Linux (and therefore Android) can be built to run on pretty much any ARM chip. In theory, the same is true of Windows CE (the kernel that WP7 is built on), but without kernel sources (and no, the CE6 and CE7 sources available from MS aren't quite the same) we can't build custom kernels like that.
Second, and much harder, would be finding the drivers for the hardware. Every single WP7 device comes with a bunch of OEM code, the "firmware", that interfaces the kernel to the hardware. This is different from device to device (thus why, if you do something like flash a Samsung Omnia 7 ROM to a Samsung Focus, or even a Focus r3 ROM to a Focus r4, the phone won't work correctly afterward). Android has something similar, but again it has two benefits: the kernel is open-source, and there are Linux drivers for almost every piece of computing hardware (although not always very good ones). For WP7, porting to a new device is very hard because of this. The HD2 worked because
A) it originally ran a CE-based OS (an older one, but still CE based)
B) it's very similar in hardware to the HD7 (not enough to run HD7 ROMs, but enough to pull some drivers from HD7 ROMs)
C) an early firmware for the WP7 kernel was developed for it and leaked.
None of those things are going to be true for the typical random Android tablet.
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First of all, it would have to be a tablet with a WP7-compatible CPU. Unlike most x86 chips used in PCs, different ARM chips may have incompatible kernel-mode interfaces, so the core of every OS must be built for that chip. Linux (and therefore Android) can be built to run on pretty much any ARM chip. In theory, the same is true of Windows CE (the kernel that WP7 is built on), but without kernel sources (and no, the CE6 and CE7 sources available from MS aren't quite the same) we can't build custom kernels like that.
Second, and much harder, would be finding the drivers for the hardware. Every single WP7 device comes with a bunch of OEM code, the "firmware", that interfaces the kernel to the hardware. This is different from device to device (thus why, if you do something like flash a Samsung Omnia 7 ROM to a Samsung Focus, or even a Focus r3 ROM to a Focus r4, the phone won't work correctly afterward). Android has something similar, but again it has two benefits: the kernel is open-source, and there are Linux drivers for almost every piece of computing hardware (although not always very good ones). For WP7, porting to a new device is very hard because of this. The HD2 worked because
A) it originally ran a CE-based OS (an older one, but still CE based)
B) it's very similar in hardware to the HD7 (not enough to run HD7 ROMs, but enough to pull some drivers from HD7 ROMs)
C) an early firmware for the WP7 kernel was developed for it and leaked.
None of those things are going to be true for the typical random Android tablet.
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So, long story short, probably not gonna happen. Gotcha. At least I know some of the work that is takes, for I am sure that it will take much more work.
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yea your not gonna get arm wp7 on an android tablet , however there are many simulations of wp7 in android tablets , so if you want wp7 on an android yes thats the way to do it , but why?
Hi dears,
I would like to know if there is a rom of wp8 for htc 7pro ,
if does not exist, will it be realised in future?
Thanks
Simply put.... in our dreams
htc7pro said:
Hi dears,
I would like to know if there is a rom of wp8 for htc 7pro ,
if does not exist, will it be realised in future?
Thanks
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it would be highly unlikely for it to be ported to any windows phone 7 device as it runs a different software core then wp7. at the core of wp7.x is windows mobile and at the core of wp8 is windows so likely many of the drivers would not be compatible any more... and even if it could be it would likely suffer from very poor performance. and on top of it our device is not all that popular of a device ... so if I had to rate the likelihood of a port on a one to ten scale. One being not happening and Ten being it's practically written in stone - a 2 maybe a 3
sorry ... try one of the 7.8 roms if you want the look of 8 right now
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it would be highly unlikely for it to be ported to any windows phone 7 device as it runs a different software core then wp7. at the core of wp7.x is windows mobile and at the core of wp8 is windows so likely many of the drivers would not be compatible any more... and even if it could be it would likely suffer from very poor performance. and on top of it our device is not all that popular of a device ... so if I had to rate the likelihood of a port on a one to ten scale. One being not happening and Ten being it's practically written in stone - a 2 maybe a 3
sorry ... try one of the 7.8 roms if you want the look of 8 right now
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Id actually give it a 5 or 6 it will be difficult but far from impossible, we have already seen wp8 running on the HD2 which has the same specs as the arrive, and other first generation WP7 phones, the first generation phones are fully capable of running wp8 as far as the hardware is concerned its more just a matter of compatibility with drivers and such.
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Id actually give it a 5 or 6 it will be difficult but far from impossible, we have already seen wp8 running on the HD2 which has the same specs as the arrive, and other first generation WP7 phones, the first generation phones are fully capable of running wp8 as far as the hardware is concerned its more just a matter of compatibility with drivers and such.
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has that rom reached stability?
HD2 has SD card slot and known configuration. You all are invited to HaRET WP7 testing. When finished, HTC7Pro hardware can be able to host much different operating systems.
Martin7Pro said:
HD2 has SD card slot and known configuration. You all are invited to HaRET WP7 testing. When finished, HTC7Pro hardware can be able to host much different operating systems.
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Thank you very much. How can I take part in the HaRET WP7 testing? I would be glad if I could be of any assistance.
Kind regards,
DAC324
DAC324 said:
Thank you very much. How can I take part in the HaRET WP7 testing? I would be glad if I could be of any assistance.
Kind regards,
DAC324
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I finished HaRET WP7 testing, becasuse it is danger, my HTC7Pro was destroyed by it. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483377&page=41#post64252180