Will the Verizon version be plagued by radio interface layer? I'm coming from a rezound and it still doesn't have aosp and I'm wondering if this phone will have the same issues getting aosp
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I'm wondering the same thing, the rezound doesn't have any aosp yet because of RIL. Hopefully it won't be the same case with the SG3 :/
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It will be I'm afraid. But this phone should have a more diverse developer base so hopefully that will help
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Also Samsung released sources for att and T-Mobile so hopefully they will for Verizon so this sold make it easier to fix ril
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Coming from the Rezound also. It's sad how much Rezound development died. I'm hoping since the GSIII is so ubiquitous that it will have a lot of developer support. And HOPEFULLY someone will get us some AOSP goodness.
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Coming from the Rezound also. It's sad how much Rezound development died. I'm hoping since the GSIII is so ubiquitous that it will have a lot of developer support. And HOPEFULLY someone will get us some AOSP goodness.
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I thought u all were doing good with newt over there
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Unfortunately gsm radio is different than cdma. Lte ril will need to be fixed then whatever breaks from the fix will have to be fixed. Lots of code to look through and repair
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Also Samsung released sources for att and T-Mobile so hopefully they will for Verizon so this sold make it easier to fix ril
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it's not just source.....they released the source for the Fascinate and Charge and neither had the RIL specific part in it....so it really didn't do a whole lot for AOSP/CM development.....the Fascinate eventually got it after a LONG time, the Charge still to this day doesn't and it was nearly the same device as the Fascinate but with added LTE radio....which made it even worse....
I think the sheer popularity of the SGSIII will make AOSP happen, I expect it to get pretty much the best of everything considering the hardware and popularity.
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Is it me or does the Thunderbolt feel completely abandoned by developers?
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Yep no jellybean for us yet. JB makes ics seem as slow as am ibm pcjr. We should demand HTC give us JB instead of ics
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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While it's not the fault of the dev's, we have been forgotten. The thunderbolt is unfortunately old news and most likely won't have much more activity until we get ICS/JB.
Its more like HTC doesn't give a crap about our phones anymore. It's unacceptable that they haven't put out an update sooner.
I'm still here!
Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Sounds more like people just using us and then throwing us away when the next hot thing comes out...
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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The reason why I'll only buy nexus phones now
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The Thunderbolt is dead; it has been for awhile. I can't wait for my GS3! Verizon needs to ship those babies soon!
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It's not dead for me yet. Still waiting for the end of July / August for HTC to actually produce something. There's been beta testing supposedly but no leak.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
im building a rom off of cm7 now . RomZombie.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
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Kinda gotta blame HTC tho, cuz a leak is just as good to me as Verizon's "official" release. Its the ril that is necessary, u get that n the rest is history -_-
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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Yea supposedly this month or next.
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Bionic already has 4 ICS leaks...and blame HTC. Anyway, the Incredible S (GSM Dinc 2) got ICS today. Here's the thing - the Thunderbolt was replaced by the Rezound a long time ago, and it's honestly not that great of a phone anyway. It was the first LTE phone, but the specs were far behind other phones that came out before it. It will be nice when it finally does get ICS (and it will, but remember the 2.3.4 update took a very long time as well), but most people (like me) who bought this phone will have already moved on, or be well on their way to a better phone by the time it finally is released. As far as being forgotten by developers - not forgotten, but they have moved on to better phones. The Thunderbolt is old hat - 1Ghz Snapdragon w/ 768MB RAM, the developers have moved on to better things, for the most part.
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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That and point really at Google for.this messed up veal they allow which is so stupid. We need to stop overlays on android and have the same user experence as any other device a unified way. On touch six.you select wick widget it brings up any available wick if one is not already selected on sense and stock that does not happen. Not a great user way here.
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Pretty sure specs weren't far behind anything when the tbolt came out. If you're this concerned sell it and buy a bionic. Go to craigslist, they are cheap.
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Since the tf 700 is just about the same as the other ones in hardware (tf300 and tf201) , are their roms or kernels compatible to flag and help this bad boy out ?
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They're not compatible, if you flash a prime or TF300 rom you'll probably brick. However, development for those tablets will help out the TF700 since they are pretty similar.
Hopefully its just A matter of changing the kernel.
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I'm sure developers will simply port some of their ROMs overall and have feature parity shortly. There are some changes and drivers they would have to make.
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I'm sure developers will simply port some of their ROMs overall and have feature parity shortly. There are some changes and drivers they would have to make.
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+1 -- it's probably down to the nitty-gritty small details.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/27/google-posts-android-4-1-jelly-bean-images-for-nexus-devices/
Hopefully this will help development for our phone in a 4.1 sense.
Same here. I would love to see a JB port for the Blaze.
It'll be easier to get a port once we have ICS. If Samsung releases it anytime this century... I am still confused for why Cyanogen Mod doesn't support our phone but still supports single core phones lol
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It'll be easier to get a port once we have ICS. If Samsung releases it anytime this century... I am still confused for why Cyanogen Mod doesn't support our phone but still supports single core phones lol
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I'm confused by lack of CM support for the blaze. They still support the cliqxt but lack of support might be because none of their members has the device
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I'm confused by lack of CM support for the blaze. They still support the cliqxt but lack of support might be because none of their members has the device
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That's what I'm thinking. It's more about popularity than actually good hardware. Funny thing is that if CM10 or at least CM9 were available more people would buy this phone. A bunch of people jumped ship and returned this device after looking at the 'slow' development. As of now it's picking up and hope it gets even better. Coming from a G2x, which was a huge waste of potential hardware, I hope this device doesn't meet the same fate. The only reason I didn't buy the Galaxy Nexus was because of its weird hardware (bad camera, random reboots, etc.) Lol
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We might not get official cm support but I know ill work on cm9 even more when ics source drops !
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That's what I'm thinking. It's more about popularity than actually good hardware. Funny thing is that if CM10 or at least CM9 were available more people would buy this phone. A bunch of people jumped ship and returned this device after looking at the 'slow' development. As of now it's picking up and hope it gets even better. Coming from a G2x, which was a huge waste of potential hardware, I hope this device doesn't meet the same fate. The only reason I didn't buy the Galaxy Nexus was because of its weird hardware (bad camera, random reboots, etc.) Lol
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Be patient. As soon as Samsung releases ICS kernel open source for Galaxy S Blaze 4G, we will have more custom ROMs such as CM9 and CM10.
So as many know the International version of the s3 has a lot more development than we do here. But my question here is shouldn't it be pretty easy to port them to the VZW version? Its the same phone. And if we switched up to the kexec kernel or something along those lines and flipped a few switches on the structure of some key apks shouldn't it work on vzw?
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Should yes, easy probably not. Can it be done by some of the Awesome Devs we have around here yes. Will they?? Doesn't hurt to ask.
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Should yes, easy probably not. Can it be done by some of the Awesome Devs we have around here yes. Will they?? Doesn't hurt to ask.
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True. Some MIUI and maybe Gummy would be pretty awesome..
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I would like gummy. Maybe someday
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I am waiting on a non buggy MIUI from the International Gs3. I tried porting one from Galaxy nexus but it didnt boot. I will try again soon someday once our RIL gets worked out. Its really weird right now, its based on a GSM stack when our phone is both CDMA and GSM. They are working on a CDMA stack on r.cyanogenmod.com, and once that gets fully approved I will work on this project.
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So as many know the International version of the s3 has a lot more development than we do here. But my question here is shouldn't it be pretty easy to port them to the VZW version? Its the same phone. And if we switched up to the kexec kernel or something along those lines and flipped a few switches on the structure of some key apks shouldn't it work on vzw?
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It is possible. Entropy did this for the AT&T sgs2 so we could flash anything in the dev forums. The only issue was both sgs2 had the same hardware for the most part except for the buttons. In our case it is different; we have completely different processors. They have a quad core eynkos(lucky *******s) and we have dual core snapdragon. This is just one obstacle of many. The best thing to do would be to go an post in the threads for the Roms that you like in the i9300 forums and ask the dev to port it to our phones. You may not get a response but the more people that ask the chances are better the we will see them port some of those Roms. The best rom over there in my opinion is omega rom. Believe it or not they are listening. That how we go some many ports on the sgs2
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and the galaxy note 10.1 appears to have a much better dev community. I can't help but think i should return my tf700 for a note 10.1
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samsung devices have a bigger following. that's it.
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and the galaxy note 10.1 appears to have a much better dev community. I can't help but think i should return my tf700 for a note 10.1
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I think some of this has to do with the fact that there are slight variations from the 300 to the 700, the 300 has a larger community but we can't just grab those devs since the differences in models are just enough to make it a pain, but the models are close enough that 300 owners probably won't upgrade. Compound this with the Nexus 7 and so many modders got that because its cheap and pure android and you see what we are in. Finally, the tablet just dropped (is about to drop?) in Europe so that shrinks the pool a bit.
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and the galaxy note 10.1 appears to have a much better dev community. I can't help but think i should return my tf700 for a note 10.1
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How much is an unlocked rom really worth? On phones it's worth a lot because of all the bloatware and need to maximize battery life but on tablets ... most have so little bloatware. I would rather have a much quicker Jellybean than all the Rom support in the world at this current time.
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Have u checked that section... Most roms are for the n8000 and not the 8013 (wifi) version... And it doesnt look like its anything special anyways... Lol just sayin
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It will get there once JB lands. Just a waiting game pretty much atm.
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Once I finish learning java, you can expect me to...
Wait nevermind, I'm too OCD not to upgrade in that time.
Getting JB a million years earlier should ease the pain.
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I am working on getting custom ROMs on this thing and I am starting with JB directly. No use making an ICS custom ROM when JB is coming soon. Its not been easy to get this done. I have a booting JB version but loads of stuff needs fixed. I'd wait for a JB version and use those libs to make a new build with.
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How much is an unlocked rom really worth? On phones it's worth a lot because of all the bloatware and need to maximize battery life but on tablets ... most have so little bloatware. I would rather have a much quicker Jellybean than all the Rom support in the world at this current time.
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I have to agree. Tablets are relatively clean. I have zero desire to do anything beyond the freezing of unneeded apps that I've already done.
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I am working on getting custom ROMs on this thing and I am starting with JB directly. No use making an ICS custom ROM when JB is coming soon. Its not been easy to get this done. I have a booting JB version but loads of stuff needs fixed. I'd wait for a JB version and use those libs to make a new build with.
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It makes sense, though we're all getting antsy over here, waiting for something new to flash.