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[Q] The nexus 7, tf300t, and jelly bean.

Does anybody think that with the nexus 7 having similar hardware to the tf300t, we might start seeing more custom roms?

If that's not the case, at least Asus delivers updates on time (no major customization of the UI), and we can unlock the bootloader with the tool provided by them.
It's way better than the strategy used by Motorola (I also have a Defy, great device with a strong community formed around it, but crippled by the official support).
Trimis de pe ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T

I think they use the same tegra 3 (T30L)
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/asus-n...tml?srcid=369&xtor=AL-1&cmpid=aff~HotUKDeals~
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No one knows. Anyone that answers otherwise is just speculating.

theoretically, it should be a reasonably trivial effort to port a Nexus 7 system dump to the TF201/300T. I'd give it a go myself if I didn't have a broken arm at the moment.
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supersoulfly said:
No one knows. Anyone that answers otherwise is just speculating.
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Well those specs do claim it uses the T30L. And the transformer 300 does use the T30L
Is the transformer clocked to 1.2GHz or 1.3GHz? Is the nexus 7 clocked higher?
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unfnknblvbl said:
theoretically, it should be a reasonably trivial effort to port a Nexus 7 system dump to the TF201/300T. I'd give it a go myself if I didn't have a broken arm at the moment.
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I'd do it too if i knew what i was doing. Looks like were both in trouble. :silly:

Hope both have the dame versión of tegra 3 and release Jb for tf300
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specs on both tabs are equal apart from memory and screen size obv.
Shame as its half the cost of TF300 and even though its got half the screen size I should have waited! ha ha
It should not take too long to port a N Tab ROM over to our tab, someone on here has already got a JB ROM for the Acer Aconia Tab A500!

Guide for 4.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28020178&postcount=36
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739561
Here is a guide on how to convert JB to any device... If I was a dev, I would throw my hat in...

i'm almost sure that asus will update our tf300
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Based on initial tests, the N7 stock rom does not have full usb driver support or sd card. No camera either, so would be either a lot of missed function, or a seriously patched N7 rom and this assumes you never use the dock.
Looks like the TF300 needs its rom and perhaps the key additions from JB patched to it.
Or wait for a JB release, which possibly will happen after the cardless and OTG gimped N7 settles in consumers hands for a few months.

Heh. I'd just like to see even a half-working port just to play around with. All the rest of the gear will come with CM10 anyway
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Ril

Will the Verizon version be plagued by radio interface layer? I'm coming from a rezound and it still doesn't have aosp and I'm wondering if this phone will have the same issues getting aosp
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I'm wondering the same thing, the rezound doesn't have any aosp yet because of RIL. Hopefully it won't be the same case with the SG3 :/
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It will be I'm afraid. But this phone should have a more diverse developer base so hopefully that will help
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Also Samsung released sources for att and T-Mobile so hopefully they will for Verizon so this sold make it easier to fix ril
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Coming from the Rezound also. It's sad how much Rezound development died. I'm hoping since the GSIII is so ubiquitous that it will have a lot of developer support. And HOPEFULLY someone will get us some AOSP goodness.

christohfur said:
Coming from the Rezound also. It's sad how much Rezound development died. I'm hoping since the GSIII is so ubiquitous that it will have a lot of developer support. And HOPEFULLY someone will get us some AOSP goodness.
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I thought u all were doing good with newt over there
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Unfortunately gsm radio is different than cdma. Lte ril will need to be fixed then whatever breaks from the fix will have to be fixed. Lots of code to look through and repair
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killerT721 said:
Also Samsung released sources for att and T-Mobile so hopefully they will for Verizon so this sold make it easier to fix ril
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it's not just source.....they released the source for the Fascinate and Charge and neither had the RIL specific part in it....so it really didn't do a whole lot for AOSP/CM development.....the Fascinate eventually got it after a LONG time, the Charge still to this day doesn't and it was nearly the same device as the Fascinate but with added LTE radio....which made it even worse....
I think the sheer popularity of the SGSIII will make AOSP happen, I expect it to get pretty much the best of everything considering the hardware and popularity.

Is there a SENSE version for the Transformer ICS?

On my evo3D I get Sense version update but can not find a Sense version in my Transformer "About".
Is Sense something not for us or for tablets?

Sense is specific to HTC products, since this is an ASUS tablet they don't have it. The Sense widgets are extremely useful and many can be replaced by others in the market like "beautiful widgets" but others can't unfortunately.

I oftentimes forget how confusing Android can be to an outsider. But Sense is an overlay that HTC uses to differentiate themselves from others on their products. What you get on the Transformer series is a relatively stock Android experience with a few features added on to take advantage of the tablet by ASUS.
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Why would you even want sense? Its bloated, slow and ugly.
I got b& at /g/ for sh!tposting ;_;

To be perfectly honest, I love the Sense interface on my HTC EVO V 4G. It's *very* smooth and fast. It's the first time I've used/owned an HTC product and I must say, it's a very professional, clean and fast interface!
Not saying that a Sense interface would be a good thing on the TF700, but who knows - I was rather impressed with the phone!
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jdeoxys said:
Why would you even want sense? Its bloated, slow and ugly.
I got b& at /g/ for sh!tposting ;_;
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I have only ever used HTC phones because I prefer Sense. I've never had a problem with Sense being bloated or slow. And it is your opinion that it is ugly. You are welcome to your opinion. I personally think Sense looks great. That being said, I don't think this tablet needs Sense. One of the reasons I like Asus tablets is they barely skin the UI.
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I have an evo 3d as well. As others have said Sence in specific to HTC. Although I would disagree it is bloated and slow. From my experience, I would say it is the next best thing to nexus experience for phones at least. The newest version of sence is very unintrusive. If you do really like it though I think there are some custom roms out to mimic the experience!
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All the sooner tp root . . .
Codesworth said:
I have an evo 3d as well. As others have said Sence in specific to HTC. Although I would disagree it is bloated and slow. From my experience, I would say it is the next best thing to nexus experience for phones at least. The newest version of sence is very unintrusive. If you do really like it though I think there are some custom roms out to mimic the experience!
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thanx
Let those Custom Rom's Rock and Roll

Codesworth said:
I have an evo 3d as well. As others have said Sence in specific to HTC. Although I would disagree it is bloated and slow. From my experience, I would say it is the next best thing to nexus experience for phones at least. The newest version of sence is very unintrusive. If you do really like it though I think there are some custom roms out to mimic the experience!
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Wow, so many fellow evo 3d users in here. I guess not everyone hates sense with a passion

Like others :
I have an evo3d, I love sense (useful, beautiful, and fast imho )
And I miss it on my TF700

Why would you want sense when you can have aosp?
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I love sense on both my 3D and LTE. Would be cool to have something like that on a tablet, but the HTC tabs were not good enough when they came out last time. Supposedly they have a higher end one in the works. Would be interested to check it out down the road.

ftmaniac948 said:
Why would you want sense when you can have aosp?
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On my phone, Sense runs smoother and looks better than any other interface I've seen/used on a phone. Period.
Haven't used Sense on a tablet, so can't comment on that...
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I like Sense over any other UI by other companies. It's one of the reasons I went with the LTE instead of the GS3. But everyone does have their opinion. There are quite a number of apps that replicate the Sense look in the market (play store, whatever).

ftmaniac948 said:
Why would you want sense when you can have aosp?
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Why would you want AOSP if Sense is an option? Simple.... Personal preference. I like sense and I've used AOSP extensively. Of course, with ICS on a tablet Sense seams a little unnecessary.
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the tf700 came out before the galaxy note 10.1

and the galaxy note 10.1 appears to have a much better dev community. I can't help but think i should return my tf700 for a note 10.1
thoughts?

samsung devices have a bigger following. that's it.

ford12acing said:
and the galaxy note 10.1 appears to have a much better dev community. I can't help but think i should return my tf700 for a note 10.1
thoughts?
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I think some of this has to do with the fact that there are slight variations from the 300 to the 700, the 300 has a larger community but we can't just grab those devs since the differences in models are just enough to make it a pain, but the models are close enough that 300 owners probably won't upgrade. Compound this with the Nexus 7 and so many modders got that because its cheap and pure android and you see what we are in. Finally, the tablet just dropped (is about to drop?) in Europe so that shrinks the pool a bit.

ford12acing said:
and the galaxy note 10.1 appears to have a much better dev community. I can't help but think i should return my tf700 for a note 10.1
thoughts?
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How much is an unlocked rom really worth? On phones it's worth a lot because of all the bloatware and need to maximize battery life but on tablets ... most have so little bloatware. I would rather have a much quicker Jellybean than all the Rom support in the world at this current time.
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Have u checked that section... Most roms are for the n8000 and not the 8013 (wifi) version... And it doesnt look like its anything special anyways... Lol just sayin
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It will get there once JB lands. Just a waiting game pretty much atm.
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Once I finish learning java, you can expect me to...
Wait nevermind, I'm too OCD not to upgrade in that time.

Getting JB a million years earlier should ease the pain.
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I am working on getting custom ROMs on this thing and I am starting with JB directly. No use making an ICS custom ROM when JB is coming soon. Its not been easy to get this done. I have a booting JB version but loads of stuff needs fixed. I'd wait for a JB version and use those libs to make a new build with.
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Diogenes5 said:
How much is an unlocked rom really worth? On phones it's worth a lot because of all the bloatware and need to maximize battery life but on tablets ... most have so little bloatware. I would rather have a much quicker Jellybean than all the Rom support in the world at this current time.
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I have to agree. Tablets are relatively clean. I have zero desire to do anything beyond the freezing of unneeded apps that I've already done.

hiemanshu said:
I am working on getting custom ROMs on this thing and I am starting with JB directly. No use making an ICS custom ROM when JB is coming soon. Its not been easy to get this done. I have a booting JB version but loads of stuff needs fixed. I'd wait for a JB version and use those libs to make a new build with.
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It makes sense, though we're all getting antsy over here, waiting for something new to flash.

Best Rom?

I'm new to the table and I'm on CleanRom 2.7 (1.8ghz kernel) which is amazing fast! Anyone suggest anything better? Just curious!
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Nothing compares/comes close to how great CleanRom is. I've tried all of them, but CleanRom just always outperforms the rest. But this is only my experience. If you really wanna know which is best, you'd have try them all to compare for yourself. And, make decision based on your own experience.

Thanks bro! Your answer is what I wanted to hear!
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I've tried all the others but settled on CleanROM, the performance is out of this world
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burt_ie said:
I've tried all the others but settled on CleanROM, the performance is out of this world
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Clean rom Inheretence 2.7 is blazin fast !!

ParanoidAndroid with the Untermensch kernel is working great for me. I've been running it since the day I bought my tablet (2 weeks) and haven't had any issues. I've been getting some great benchmark scores too.

every available version of clean rom has failed to flash for me

and how does cleanrom battery life compare with the stock 4.1.1?

I'm still not fully convinced to root and flash my TF300.
Haven't came across a 100% for sure noob proof guide as to getting to that stage.
I'm not seeing an awful lot of updates for some of the roms, maybe I'm missing something...
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mloc33 said:
I'm still not fully convinced to root and flash my TF300.
Haven't came across a 100% for sure noob proof guide as to getting to that stage.
I'm not seeing an awful lot of updates for some of the roms, maybe I'm missing something...
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Same as you man, seems very complicated compared to my phone.
I mean the tf300 has a quad core lol, it can handle anything with 4.1.1 but I'm a perfectionist gah.

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The best ROM is the one that works best for YOU, and your personal app selection. What may work for most, may not have the features you need.. Only you can take the time and find what is best.