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After a research I made selections for a new purchase.
It will be:
-SE Xperia Neo
or
-Samsung Nexus S
I like both casing shape/design.
Specifications are very similar --> http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3734&idPhone2=3620
Would one of them serve better?
I'd like to hear pros/cons
Importan to me:
-camera/video (Neo +1)
-screen size (Nexus +1)
-price little higher for Neo, but it is also newer model (tie)
-music reproduction (internet radio) (?)
-speed (?)
-stability (?)
I have Nokia N8 now and I feel it as slow phone. Can I expect significant improvement in speed with Neo/Nexus?
p.s. I like both of them having Skype video calling possibility
(alternative: HTC Incredible S, but expensiver)
Nexus S hands down.
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If I'd have had a Nokia N8 I wouldn't have bought the NxS, especially not with the new update for Symbian out.
Thanks for answers!
I like my Nokia N8 very much for the design and very much for the camera,
but speed and reliability is very low. It's killing me for that. Also big reason I want to change is I can't find good internet radio player (and music player). Best I could find is TuneWiki player. But often it doesn't work as it should and it's slow.
At the moment I'm thinking of Xperia Neo, but it costs less than my current phone (N8), so I'm worried if I'll get worse
I don't care about software system. Maybe I'd just like to test android, but also symbian would be good if it worked as it should. (I had WP7 -good system, but there's no suitable phone out yet. Maybe after WP7 Mango)
I don't play with thousands of applications. Just need calls, music player, camera, web-browser, Skype, Navigation, USB Tethering and some little more to work good and fast.
Would Xperia Neo be better than Nokia N8?
iPhone is too expensive and I don't like the style . I'd like to have and wait for Nokia N9 Meego, but it looks like it will be very expensive too.
alternatives:
1.HTC Incredible S (Is it better than Xperia Neo?)
2.Galaxy S II (almost too big size; don't like the design very much; maybe too powerfull phone)
3.HTC Sensation (almost too big size; it heats too much; maybe too powerfull phone)
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After seeing few pages, I'll maybe wait for Nokia N9
--> http://www.nokiaphones.net/nokia-n9-preview/
--> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110828071831AAMnSwR
--> http://dailymobile.se/2011/08/26/nokia-n9-ui-demo/
HTC Incredible, if you dont mind paying more for a better product.
Nokia N9 is a great phone, first Nokia device worth buying after N95 8GB. I would like to have one .
Don't know about SE Neo, generally I do't like SE customization of Android, but someone would think different.
Nexus S has a great form factor, not too big, and it's amazing fast with stock Android, feels faster then some HTC devices with more power, like Sensation.
After all, it's just matter of taste. So, you should go to local phone store and check some of them...or wait for N9 ...
I just had allready agreed buying Nexus S second hand today afternoon, but I canceled it.
I'll wait a bit really, maybe for Nokia N9. HTC Incredible S is still option also.
Yesterday I had some troubles with N8 again and it was too impulsive thing buying other phone in a haste.
I was a Nokia fanboy for years until a friend showed my his Android phone. I went straight out and got the HTC Hero, I now have the Nexus S. You really really won't be disappointed if you got one. I wont be going back to Nokia at all, old OS and clunky with it.
'sup folks.
This thread is dedicated to my lovely wife who just couldn't make up her mind between One S ("kinda looks nice"), Galaxy SIII ("oh nice screen"), and iPhone5 ("when is it coming out? my 3GS feels old"). And between all 3 of them, "can i unlock them?" (in Canada, phones are locked to their ISP, so if I buy it from, say, Rogers, I can't just pop another SIM card from, say, Bell.)
So what do u guys think?
Personally, I'm an Android guy through and through. Can't fix it? Find a ROM to restore it. Boot another ROM. Root it on day one. So iPhone is out of the question. But I tend to like the look of One S better than SIII. and i had good experience with HTC phones. and SIII costs $100 more.
But she's been using iPhone3GS, love the simplicity, has no idea what 'rooting' is and why its necessary no matter how many times I explained that it's necessary for TiBackup to work... But she plays around with my Nexus7 and loves to stream Korean drama and check Facebook with it. And last time we went to Costco she saw the SIII on display and goes "oh wow, that's a nice screen. does it work like ur Nexus? I kinda want it." So mainly for her, OneS is the cheaper phone, but SIII's screen looks amazing, and she'll only be using her phone for;
a. take photos
b. facebook
c. browse the latest grocery flyers and baby product review
d. stream korean dramas
e. whatsapp
What do you think she should pick up? Or she should just wait for the next iPhone in a month or two?
Any input?
I think your wife would be better of with the One S. she doesn't really sound like an advanced user that would really care much about the spec difference. the One S is $100 cheaper and can do the things she wants to do just fine.
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I think your wife would be better of with the One S. she doesn't really sound like an advanced user that would really care much about the spec difference. the One S is $100 cheaper and can do the things she wants to do just fine.
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thanks. that's what i think too.
say, what do u think between OneS's screen vs my RAZR? just for easier comparison for her to see, rather than going down to the local mall and play with one under the watchful eyes of eager salesmen....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
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thanks. that's what i think too.
say, what do u think between OneS's screen vs my RAZR? just for easier comparison for her to see, rather than going down to the local mall and play with one under the watchful eyes of eager salesmen....
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the RAZR and the HOS have the same screen, Pentile AMOLED 960x540. But i have seen many people state that the RAZR can have a yellow tint while the colors are more balanced on the HOS
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
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nice. thanks!
so for my wife's sake, i can safely say "its like my RAZR, but the color is abit better".
I'd say 1S for your wife. Main reasons would be the superior camera and slim, sleek form factor. Honestly as much as I love my 1S I want to trade and get an S3, my hands are just too big for this thing!:screwy: but I think this is the best android phone for a woman hands down, it's a sexy device that's for sure.
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1S the best for sure...
To be hones I have not realy used the S3 myself... I have had it in my hands and just new it is way to big... I had the One X to start of with but then changed it for a 1S mainly because of the size... Why would I need a "mobile PHONE" with a quadcore anyway...?!
i just traded my tmobile GS3 for a htc one s plus cash. the GS3 camera sucks at night. i can post photos in a few. my buddy has the evo 4g lte which should be the same camera as the one s. u will see a big difference in quality. also the GS3 was pretty big. i thought it would be cool but i didnt like it cause it was hard to use with just one hand. unless u got some big hands u might like it. plus the one s just feels better in the hand and it feels lighter. oh and HTC Sense 4.0 over Touchwiz anyday lol.
1st Pic: GS3
2nd Pic: Evo 4G LTE
3rd Pic: GS3
4th Pic: Evo 4G LTE
Comprehensive breakdown because I feel like doing one to refresh the mind.
CPU/GPU: Known quantity. One S isn't as fast as the GS3 here (international to international) but the reduced resolution of the One S hides the GPU deficit and the CPUs are basically equal. The US GS3 is same for CPU, slightly slower on GPU because they use the same chipset.
Display: One S is MUCH better in terms of calibration. The white point is accurate and gamma stays constant. Brightness is essentially only limited by hard protection, but you should never need to turn it up to that point. Overall, the One S has the better colors, GS3 has the better pixel density. Pick your poison.
Camera: Stock to stock, GS3 might win because the One S has pretty heavy compression on both video and photos. Once you get an HQ camera mod though, even the very best that the GS3 can produce is not as sharp as the One S. The One S doesn't use flash for focusing though, so that's something the GS3 wins on for low light flash photos.
Software: Sense is nice for people who know it, and looks nice too. Touchwiz is more functional but doesn't look as good. Once you get rid of Sense's 3D effects it runs much better on the home screen. Elsewhere is a matter of ROM optimization, and is basically close enough to not be worth discussing
Battery: The One S CAN be much better for battery life than the GS3, but requires much more management to do so, because even small battery drainers can lead to big loss of battery because the One S has a much smaller battery capacity compared to the GS3. GS3 is generally less efficient because of the very blue display, and the fact that it's a HUGE display. Exynos might draw more power too.
Design: Subjective. If you like metal, I guess the One S wins.
Decisive winners: If you care about expandable storage and removable battery enough to swing your decision, GS3 will probably be the one you want.
I agree with most of the above apart from:
CPU/GPU - The CPU in the one S is the better one overall as the performance per core is quite a bit better than the exynos quad in the GS 3 and at this stage currently with android and apps, it is far more important than having an additional 2 cores. Not only is it better for performance, but it is also better for power efficiency and the amount of heat given out
The GPU in the int. GS 3 is far better. Although as you said there isn't much difference in real world use especially as the S has the inferior res. so games etc. won't be as stressful.
Also the One S does beat the GS 3 in quite a few benchmark tests, the GS 3 only really beats it in tests that use/are dependant on the GPU i.e. quadrant (also quadrant gives quad core a better score just due to it having 2 extra cores)
In real world usage though, there isn't a huge amount of difference, I personally found the one S to be more snappy/instant feel and the GS 3 more smoother overall (there should be very little to virtually no difference when JB comes to both phones officially)
Camera - GS 3 100 times over the one S for 1080P video recording quality (however, the one s 100 times over the GS 3 for stereo audio recording ), however, the camera for photos is more or less equal, some shots look better on the GS 3 and likewise for the S, however, the camera UI and features are far better on the S
Battery - The battery life is better on the S overall (personally I didn't do much tweaking to it, just turned stuff like auto brightness off, wifi max performance off etc.
However, with the GS 3 you can have the option to use spares and an extended battery at some point.......due to it being removable
Whilst the GS 3 does have a bigger battery, it needs it due to the bigger and 720P screen as well as a more power hungry CPU
Imagine how long the S would last with one full charge on a 2100mAh battery!
And yup, exactly, the extra storage of the GS 3 and removable battery are 2 of the main deciding factors IMO.
Honestly think your wife will prefer the one S due to size, sense (you really don't need to faff about with rooting and replacing every app with 3rd party ones, sense apps are great and they also look "pretty" )
very informative, guys! thanks!
i think 1S wins for her due to smaller size and (arguably) better/faster camera. she's quite a petite lady. and i dont think she cares about battery replacement or storage. haha, storage... all the years she owns 3G and 3GS, she downloaded a total of probably 10 apps. 7 she removed on the first day. (i know she kept the Economist, Whatsapp, and BBC News....)
but if she does wants the bigger "nicer" (in her own words) screen, then all bets are off... i'll talk to her again tonight
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Really depends what you're looking for, and a bit hard to tell since the samsung ativ hasn't really had alot of coverage.
Im going for the 820, as it looks like it's going to be the right size for me, and at a fairly good price, for what it brings.
And i love the design/toughness that the phone seems to have.
//ZyTE
Thanks
Remember the ATIV S (stupid name BTW - my friends call it the "Eighty-Four-Ess") has a couple advantages like a removable battery and bigger screen with more ppi. I still like the looks of the Lumia better though.... and the colors of course.
I fully agree with you MasterDBA, the Lumia 820 (217 ppi) has really poor ppi: less than my old Touch HD (244 ppi)!!!
But the looks and colors of the Lumia are by far fancier.
Actually, I don't think you can really compare the L820 with the 84S p) as they are not targeting the same market...
MasterDBA said:
Remember the ATIV S (stupid name BTW - my friends call it the "Eighty-Four-Ess") has a couple advantages like a removable battery and bigger screen with more ppi. I still like the looks of the Lumia better though.... and the colors of course.
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The 820 has a removable battery as well. I was strongly against the 820 at first, but after thinking about it more, I'm going to be looking at one tomorrow (hopefully) to see what it feels like in person.
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I bought my 820 last night sim free
liking it so far.
cirian75 said:
I bought my 820 last night sim free
liking it so far.
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Ah sweet, can you give us your thoughts on it when you have had time to get used to it as I have one on order, should get it sometime next week
Nice enough, totally destroys my 4s for dataspeeds
at home 4s 3 to 7mbps, 820 10 to 17mbps
Gmail push email is slow, average 5 minute delay (I assume a update will cure that)
battery life is about the same as a 4s
The UI is well nice a fast, in app fluidity is nice too.
There is only one volume level for everything which a bit of a pita.
As expected there is the app level gap, but there are workarounds
I like how once you email contacts, FB and twitter are setup its all linked up so I can see whats going on without having to use many separate apps.
still feels a little beta, very very late beta, very close to gold.
Nice thanks I'm coming from a Sony Xperia s so hopefully the battery can't be as bad as that.
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Have had my Lumia 820 for 3days now and although I prefer it's performance to my Lumia 900 I have managed to run it out 3 times, So I hope now that the battery level starts to improve, Under moderate usage I struggle to get through a day, That's with 2 Email accounts synced every hour, Location on, Only a weather app running in background and screen sensitivity normal,Then again I guess that's why they introduced wireless charging lol, In the long run I really hope a firmware update can fix this issue, Similar to the fixes for the Lumia 800 earlier in the year, Compared to my Lumia 900 the 900 has a slight edge where battery life is concerned, Maybe a higher capacity battery will help but nothing is available this early not even the original Nokia Batteries, Am now thinking I should have waited for the 920 :crying:
I found the GMail syncing to be plain awful
It would stop doing push email after 20 minutes and then email retrieval was sketchy at best
I returned mine for a full refund.
How is the voice call quality with speakerphone and regular holding-up-to-your-ear?
Phonearena gave a poor review based on call quality http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Nokia-Lumia-820-Review_id3188/page/4
But I'd rather hear from real users who know what they're talking about. In the store you aren't really allowed to properly test out the phones.
The quality is as good if not tad better than my Lumia 900 but the volume needs to be cranked up higher specially in the speaker phone mode.
Imho, since the 820 is being sold as a mid range phone, the reviewers are determined to find compromises overlooking the fact that spec wise other than the camera and the screen, same as the 920.
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charlyee said:
The quality is as good if not tad better than my Lumia 900 but the volume needs to be cranked up higher specially in the speaker phone mode.
Imho, since the 820 is being sold as a mid range phone, the reviewers are determined to find compromises overlooking the fact that spec wise other than the camera and the screen, same as the 920.
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I agree, I got my 820 yesterday and there's absolutely nothing wrong with the voice quality. Everything about the phone is great, especially not being a "flagship" device. I'm using my One X over WiFi to type this just because the XDA app is better on android...hint hint XDA devs, since WP8 is suppose to be easier to dev for, how about a better (and free) XDA app? Just a suggestion, I don't know coding so I'm not going to ***** and moan to much about it.
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My wife just picked up the 820 at the ATT store today. ATT is running unadvertised special on all 3 of their winphones in the store until Sunday evening:
Nokia 820 $0 with 2-year contract
Nokia 920 $49.99 with 2-year contract + free wireless charging plate
HTC 8x 16GB $149.99 with 2-year contract
So basically $50 less per phone compared to their website. No special offers for 1-year contract or retail pricing.
Just setting up the 820 - disabled NFC and the high-sensitivity touch screen setting (for gloves) both of which suck extra battery. Otherwise its good to go out of the box.
michoob said:
I fully agree with you MasterDBA, the Lumia 820 (217 ppi) has really poor ppi: less than my old Touch HD (244 ppi)!!!
But the looks and colors of the Lumia are by far fancier.
Actually, I don't think you can really compare the L820 with the 84S p) as they are not targeting the same market...
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If this is the same display as in my Lumia 810, the low ppi really does not bother me. It's a beautiful screen.
ile2010 said:
If this is the same display as in my Lumia 810, the low ppi really does not bother me. It's a beautiful screen.
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I agree, despite the low ppi on paper, the screen is very sharp and shows detail quote well. And I was use to my 312 ppi screen on my One X when I got my 820.
Sent from my HTC One X because the XDA app is better than on my WP8 Nokia Lumia 820
After using the phone for a week, my wife says it has better voice quality and reception than her old Samsung Focus. It has not been dropping calls when using bluetooth headset and driving on the highway like her Focus did in some areas.
michoob said:
I fully agree with you MasterDBA, the Lumia 820 (217 ppi) has really poor ppi: less than my old Touch HD (244 ppi)!!!
But the looks and colors of the Lumia are by far fancier.
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You wouldn't even notice the ppi if you didn't read the specs. The images is sharp and the colors are magnificent, the blacks are deep, better than on the 920. Colour-wise the 820 has the best screen ever. And it also comes with super-sensitive touch, wireless charging and Nokia apps.
Meanwhile the ATIV S offers a huge screen, cheap plastic body... and that's it.
Hey im from Israel so im sry for my bad english.
I want to buy a new phone and im thinking about Lumia 820 but i want to know to about the disadvantage of the 820 against the Advantage of 920.
I want to know if this is really big different and its ok to buy the 820 because the price or to add more money and buy the 920.
Questions
1. Is there Big different between the display I mean the PPI?
2. the 820 have Pureview or not ?
3.Does the 820 have wireless charcing?
My assessment based on the specs from Nokia.com and from using both units at the AT&T store in the USA:
920 pros:
- 32GB built in
- better camera with pureview
- better screen with higher dpi
- free wireless charging offer in USA (built in coil in case plus free offer for charging unit)
- gorilla glass
920 cons:
- bigger/heavier
- fixed battery - looks like you need to totally disassemble and find a supplier of the BP-4GW battery which would probably need replacement after ~1 year of use just after warranty expires. Although it is Li-Po which should last longer than standard Li-Ion,
- no ram expansion
820 pros:
- light/small
- replaceable battery - easy to keep a charged spare on hand
- expandable ram to 72GB with 64GB microSDHX card
820 cons:
- only 8GB built in
- worse screen - lower dpi
- worse camera without pureview
- pay extra for wireless charging - need to buy optional charging shell with coil plus the charging unit itself
- no gorilla glass
The teardowns may be helpful:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Noki...eardown-treatment_id35930#5-Lumia-920-diagram
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/11/07/n...nternal-photos-bp-4gw-2000mah-battery-inside/
Specs:
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia810/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia820/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia822/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia920/specifications/
There really isn't a lot else to say. Its just personal preference.
danchar4 said:
My assessment based on the specs from Nokia.com and from using both units at the AT&T store in the USA:
920 pros:
- 32GB built in
- better camera with pureview
- better screen with higher dpi
- free wireless charging offer in USA (built in coil in case plus free offer for charging unit)
- gorilla glass
920 cons:
- bigger/heavier
- fixed battery - looks like you need to totally disassemble and find a supplier of the BP-4GW battery which would probably need replacement after ~1 year of use just after warranty expires. Although it is Li-Po which should last longer than standard Li-Ion,
- no ram expansion
820 pros:
- light/small
- replaceable battery - easy to keep a charged spare on hand
- expandable ram to 72GB with 64GB microSDHX card
820 cons:
- only 8GB built in
- worse screen - lower dpi
- worse camera without pureview
- pay extra for wireless charging - need to buy optional charging shell with coil plus the charging unit itself
- no gorilla glass
The teardowns may be helpful:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Noki...eardown-treatment_id35930#5-Lumia-920-diagram
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/11/07/n...nternal-photos-bp-4gw-2000mah-battery-inside/
Specs:
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia810/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia820/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia822/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia920/specifications/
There really isn't a lot else to say. Its just personal preference.
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Thank u so much !
If you want to make full usage of the pureview camera then go fo the 920 as it has all the trimmings and slightly larger screen/resolution, The 820 still takes a very nice picture as it is still 8MP, In my opinion the concept of the 820 is better as it has a removable battery and upgradable storage and weight/size wise it is lighter and more manageable, The screen has been noted as displaying a more vivd image compared to the 920 and you can change the outer shells, However it does not have Gorilla glass but instead a scratch resistant surface, It does have wireless charging too,
The design of the 820 diverts from the Traditional striking Lumia shape and looks like any other phone from a distance, Performance wise they both use the same chipset for CPU and RAM and there is little noted difference,
A difficult decision which I had to make and through personal choice I went for the 820 as I still felt it to be an upgrade from my Lumia 900.
You should get both in your hand. In my opinion 820 is already heavy and square-cut.
I tested Nokia Lumia 820 for 40 days. I sold this nokia. I back to iOS. Reasons:
- No good apps in appMarket
- terrible keypad ( texting )
- general sound management ( WTF?? )
- not customisable sms tones
- very heavy device
- not comfortable in my hand ( in 40 days period i drop 6-7 times from my hand )
- picture quality/ autofocus (iPhone 4 better)
iPhone 4 is 10000000000% better than Lumia 820.
P.S. I am testing all devices. Always back to iPhone. In my opinion:
1. iOS
2. Android
3. WP8
4. BlackBerry
Please, if You thinking that WP8 is better than iOS, please reply with reasons in this topic.
kind regards
Marcin
troxter said:
I tested Nokia Lumia 820 for 40 days. I sold this nokia. I back to iOS. Reasons:
- No good apps in appMarket
- terrible keypad ( texting )
- general sound management ( WTF?? )
- not customisable sms tones
- very heavy device
- not comfortable in my hand ( in 40 days period i drop 6-7 times from my hand )
- picture quality/ autofocus (iPhone 4 better)
iPhone 4 is 10000000000% better than Lumia 820.
P.S. I am testing all devices. Always back to iPhone. In my opinion:
1. iOS
2. Android
3. WP8
4. BlackBerry
Please, if You thinking that WP8 is better than iOS, please reply with reasons in this topic.
kind regards
Marcin
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Sounds like a very thorough and thought out review there. Apps will arrive, you have to accept that if you buy into Windows 8 your an early adopter (rather than a sheeple folloeing the iDevices crowd) so that aside lets look at your other statements:
Very heavy - I find the Samsung's for example way too light, you want your phone to have some weight so it feels like it has some build quality to it and you won;t throw it down so hard.
Terrible Keypad - well aside form no qualifiers whatsoever, lets look at many other reviews and technical opinions on the Windows Keyboard being far superior to most others. such as hold and swipe to get 2nd key function, saves so much time.
No customizable SMS tone - oh, i think we found a true criticism, i have to agree here. I was hoping window s8 would allow new alert tones.
General sound management - ?? You have in call and main volume then games have their own volume controls that provide finite volume adjustment.
Picture quality - well my 900 always takes better pictures than my gf's iPhone 4. I doubt the 820 is any worse but i'll let you know when mine arrives.
Doesn't feel comfortable in your hand - but an iPhone with almost identical shape does?
@ Troxter
How much are you paid by Apple to write such things ?
90% of Ipfone applications are shorcuts of a web Explorer leading to sites that have adapted their page definition
Before IPhone there were phones with 6.5 Windows doing alla what an IPhone does and mostly without connection.
But at that Time, noobs knew only Nokia....
And to be "anti Microsoft" is for some peaple the only way to look as geek, otherwise they are bubbles
i have had the lumia 820 in the uk now for a week now, its a fantastic handset does everything i need and much more carnt comment on the 920 as would not consider one because of there size, as for screen clarity the lumia 820 is superb crisp and clear, the added advantage is removable back shell to another colour, i have had the iphone 4s and iphone 4 and the lumia 820 beats them both handsdown its a far better device in everyway in my my opinion.
i dont think there will be envy over some one having the 920 as the lumia 820 does all i need and much more.
the lumia series are fantastic handsets and the new improvments especially in the music sound quality is great.
its all about personal choice for me the lumia 820 is my choice.
while hardware (screen, speed, camera) of the Lumia is really great, I'm not convinced
that W8 is as ergonomic as my android. There are so many things I can customize in
android and so few in W8. Maybe time will bring some more, but currently I think
It's hard for people experienced in other OS to change.
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Jericoacoara said:
while hardware (screen, speed, camera) of the Lumia is really great, I'm not convinced
that W8 is as ergonomic as my android. There are so many things I can customize in
android and so few in W8. Maybe time will bring some more, but currently I think
It's hard for people experienced in other OS to change.
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We don't car about your Android mania her we talk about Nokia 820 and 920.
People knowing DOS at a time were against Windows ...even IBM.....
Anyway Tiles concept are a genious invention compare to Icons were its difficult to type the right one.
And Icons were invented I guess by MS
820, good enough
I wanted to buy my phone outright, I don't like contracts.
I felt there were two downsides to the 820. 8GB storage, not having gorilla glass.
I've found that after installing a bunch of applications, and the nokia maps sizes, that the 8gb gets used up very quickly. The SD expandable slot is only good for music, videos, and pictures. All application data for whatever reason has to go on the internal memory so in a years time I might regret the decision.
But I personally don't find the need for the 720p or WXGA resolution that necessary.
That being said, I could have done with a Nokia 620, but it isn't out until February really.. but it is far cheaper!
My opinion for WP8
As I use to used SGS2 and Iphone4 before and now own Lumia 820
- WP8 bring a new thing mostly for interface
- WP8 bring a lot of new feature and technology
- WP8 lack of basic feature such as separate notification in each application, no file explorer then cannot save/send/attach some files type with email and etc.
- WP8 update is take time too much compare with Iphone and Android they are release hot fix soonest.
- WP8 application not good functional such as Skype, Facebook. I'm Focus to Skype that is OWN by MS but too poor while position it to be replaced MSN.
- WP8 not support others browser than IE10, it is not have 'Forward' and others feature.
- WP8 cannot close app with one click/touch, have to get back step by step
- WP8 not support static IP address
- WP8 cannot lock screen rotation.
- WP8 not have short cut directly setup Wi-Fi, BT and etc. Only have app that bring you into that screen.
- Still more but I just stop here is better
Above from my opinion, I'm MS fan but I'm thinking to go back Android until most of the thing provided. MS should consider and focus most of basic features must available too. New thing is great and surprise, however the basic thing is more often use customer is no only in US. Many feature is really useless.
Hope this information get take care soon before I change back to Android (even it lag need to reboot some time but still had many things I can use)
Its not an Android Topic
pungponx said:
As I use to used SGS2 and Iphone4 before and now own Lumia 820
- WP8 bring a new thing mostly for interface
- WP8 bring a lot of new feature and technology
- WP8 lack of basic feature such as separate notification in each application, no file explorer then cannot save/send/attach some files type with email and etc.
- WP8 update is take time too much compare with Iphone and Android they are release hot fix soonest.
- WP8 application not good functional such as Skype, Facebook. I'm Focus to Skype that is OWN by MS but too poor while position it to be replaced MSN.
- WP8 not support others browser than IE10, it is not have 'Forward' and others feature.
- WP8 cannot close app with one click/touch, have to get back step by step
- WP8 not support static IP address
- WP8 cannot lock screen rotation.
- WP8 not have short cut directly setup Wi-Fi, BT and etc. Only have app that bring you into that screen.
- Still more but I just stop here is better
Above from my opinion, I'm MS fan but I'm thinking to go back Android until most of the thing provided. MS should consider and focus most of basic features must available too. New thing is great and surprise, however the basic thing is more often use customer is no only in US. Many feature is really useless.
Hope this information get take care soon before I change back to Android (even it lag need to reboot some time but still had many things I can use)
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We don't care about your Android mania her we talk about Nokia 820 and 920.
People knowing DOS at a time were against Windows ...even IBM.....
Anyway Tiles concept are a genious invention compare to Icons were its difficult to type the right one.
And Icons were invented I guess by MS
good points. thank you
I've sold iphone 4 and bought lumia 820. I've used it for 2 days.
First, Lumia 820 is quite attractive, not too heavy. Although it is quite big but it is not a big deal 'cos the screen of lumia is bigger than iphone.
Next, Apps for lumia are less than Apple or Google 'cos Windows 8 was released later than others.
I think that windows 8 will have been more convenient in future.
It's hard to state what phone is better. It depends on your opinion, on work, and on the way to entertain.
By the way, you should not regret when you choose a phone.
the 810 has gorilla glass 2 and I believe that the 822 does as well...
lumia 820 or 920
andy1969 said:
i have had the lumia 820 in the uk now for a week now, its a fantastic handset does everything i need and much more carnt comment on the 920 as would not consider one because of there size, as for screen clarity the lumia 820 is superb crisp and clear, the added advantage is removable back shell to another colour, i have had the iphone 4s and iphone 4 and the lumia 820 beats them both handsdown its a far better device in everyway in my my opinion.
i dont think there will be envy over some one having the 920 as the lumia 820 does all i need and much more.
the lumia series are fantastic handsets and the new improvments especially in the music sound quality is great.
its all about personal choice for me the lumia 820 is my choice.
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Yes after lots of evaluation I chose the 820 also. My contract was up, so I visited a few shops to see the devices actually working. I was a samsung omnia 7 user for 2 years, and superficially I got used to the amoled look, deep blacks and eye popping colors. I had 8gb on my omnia and never ran out of memory, mainly because Im not a great foto-geek and tend to uninstall apps and craps that I never use much. The 920 has a high resolution screen and I noticed that, but the colours(although more natural) were a bit subdued for me. Just the idea of a removable battery and an sdcard slot plus removable shells werethe decision point for me . So I went for the cyan 820, and love it although compared to the omnia 7 it is quite heavy. But whenever I see sexy Jessica alba chicks with 920s I ALWAYS compliment them on their choice.
Hello guys .
How can I find out my lumia 820 is cons or pros ?
My device have Amoled display and removable battery .
The glass on 820 is scratch-resistant, but it’s not Gorilla Glass
There is no gorilla glass on Lumia 820, but the glass on 820 is scratch-resistant.
danchar4 said:
My assessment based on the specs from Nokia.com and from using both units at the AT&T store in the USA...
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I might be trading my HTC One S for an HTC 8X do you think this is a good deal and what are the pros and cons to each device? any tips? thanks
justin11141 said:
I might be trading my HTC One S for an HTC 8X do you think this is a good deal and what are the pros and cons to each device? any tips? thanks
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I had the HTC HD7 for 6 months... I tried to like the windows phone OS, but I eventually felt it to be way to "constricting" I couldn't modify it, and at the time there weren't too many apps for it. It's a quick operating system, but it doesn't seem like it's as powerful as the android platform.
I don't know much about the 8X, the hardware may be better than the OneS (I haven't looked into it), but I have to say the OS is just not mature enough to compete with Android, iOS, or even RIM's OS
that's just my 2cents
I happened to have played with the 8X and have One S.
The first thing you need to ask yourself before the switch is if you need any of the apps on your android phone. Remember that Windows Phone is still relatively new OS and there are still tons of apps missing or not working well. If you think that you can survive with the limited apps support then you can decide if you want to switch. One of the biggest issue I have with WP8 is not much google voice support and since I use GV as my only text, it is hard for me to stay on it. (granted you can use email option and/or other third party software but just not as great)
One thing that I personally do not like about WP8 is the notification LED light that only blinks a few seconds after a missed call/sms, etc but does not stay on. So you always have to turn the device on to see anything.
My biggest recommendation is first do a bit read on the pro/con on the WP8 since you are looking to swtich between the platform so you need to know what you are getting yoruself into. Things like Goggle service like Maps, turn by turn navigatin, customizatoin etc are missing on the 8X
Overall, the 8X is great WP8 phone and probably one of the best build out there for WP8. The phone has great camera, especially front camera compare to our One S, much higher res and takes much better image. The One S and 8X have same rear camera but I think one S has more feature due to the software (since WP8 does not offer you much software).
build quality, both phones are great, I like the soft rubber feel of 8X but I personally prefer One S's metalic body as it feel more durable and premium. The rounded corner also feels a bit better. The 8X button is a bit hard to press due to it's flushed against the body.
a few other differences/comments
One S has FM but 8X does not
both has no removable batter and no expandable battery so both comes with 16GB storage and on 8X, you get like 13 or 14gb for free (I think a bit mroe than 8X)
8X has a better screen due to higher res and use of LCD as oppose to SAMOLED. It can appears to be a bit washed out if you are used to SAMOLED but it's more natural color.
Both phones are great, but I wouldn't necessarily trade your HTC One S for the HTC 8X.
This is what I can think of at the moment:
Pros:
Higher Resolution Screen on the 8X (1280 x 720 vs 960 x 540)
Higher PPI
Higher res front-facing camera 2.1MP vs VGA (.3MP)
Rubberized grip has a unique feel
Windows OS is very easy to use
OS Integrates very well with Microsoft services (Xbox Live, Hotmail, Skydrive, etc.)
Has search features that are integrated for QR code scanning and photo search
Cons:
LCD2 Screen isn't as vibrant as the Super AMOLED display on the One S
Windows 8 OS has a limited app market
Windows 8 OS doesn't really allow customization - for instance keyboards, widgets, etc.
Overal more restrictive OS environment
The 8X feels a bit uncomfortable to me with the sharp edges