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What do you think? Prices are unimportant.
It would be nice if you can tell us why
I think the best windows phone always depends on your personal needs. I choose a HTC 7 Pro, because I needed a device with a physical keyboard, as I'm often using the office app and the email functionality.
So I bought it directly when it came out and I'm still very pleased with my descision. As there was only the Dell Venue Pro with a keyboard on sale, I choose HTC, because I had allready several phones produced by them and I loved all of them. The only thing I miss is a microSD reader.
The 7 Pro would be the best if it has a larger screen and better landscape support :/
Wtf where is the LG quantum?
The Omnia7 is a great piece of HW for that price. I just also cant live without physical KB and got the HTC 7 Pro.
Why i decided the HTC over the Dell is that Dell is pretty bulky and also note that dells keyboard does not have directional keys. When i had the Omnia 7 it was a pita when trying to go back to some specific place in a text...
As for the not so good support of landscape in WP7 its not a problem. The places where I use the KB most landscape works... Like now writing this!
Also unlocked bootloaders is a thing that made me go towards HTC.
hardcoreplur said:
Wtf where is the LG quantum?
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Sorry, forgotten.
It isnt aviable in Europe, so...
Can any mod apply that phone to the poll?
Another problem of the Pro ia that it has only 8GB in the Europe version -.-
I love my HD7, but I love big screens. I use my phone 24/7, literally, it monitors my sleep lol... The battery isn't as good as some of the smaller screens, and HTC batteries suck, but you need to get a phone that suits your preferences.
HTC has problems with quality these past few years.. Not jst on wp7/wm6, bt android too..
I'll go for LG.. Easiest way to developer unlock via its mfg menu..
Sent from my LG Optimus 7
I don't actually own an Windows Phone, but I'll swap my LG 2X to a DVP. I think, that's the best Windows Phone, it has an 4.1" AMOLED Screen, a physical keyboard, it's cool looking...
But the Omnia 7 is really good too. Super AMOLED is quite better than AMOLED, and it has an metal body... thats nice
Hands down the dell venue pro. I own all of them but for battery life, functionality, quality, and pretty much everything that matters the dell venue pro. It was ergonomically designed in every sense to be form-fitted to the hand, the screen has a slight curvature unseen elsewhere, its the only windows phone without physical buttons that I dont accidentally hit the back button on, and lets face it, no other looks near as cool. The weight took some getting used to, its just slightly heavier than the hd7 but the weight is my only complaint.
The battery on the HD7 sucks, yes, but that's the least of its problems.
My main issue is that it's a terrible PHONE. The reception/signal strength is terrible.
If you're on WiFI a lot and want a bit screen, it's a great phone. WiFi will save some battey over a 3G connection given the quality of the radio in the phone.
If you want a phone that actually functions very well as a phone, I'd look into something else. Maybe the Focus. Samsung phones tend to have very good signal strength. At least my Vibrant does, but it may have a different radio /shrug. The HD2 had poor reception as well. The HD7 is basically it's fraternal twin brother.
Also, I'd try my best to get an unlocked/unbranded phone because Microsoft is making us do the carrier dance, Sadly.
HD7
Pros:
Large screen
Good call quality (Sounds nice & clear)
Good signal strength (I get 3G+ reception up in the mountains of Burbank, CA & Burbank refuses to allow cell provider to put up new towers)
Nice build quality, feels nice in the hand
Kick Stand for media viewing
Hackability (Same goes for all HTC's as we have R/HSPL)
Cons:
Battery
Poor speaker volume/quality
LCD is nice but nothing compared to Super AMOLED & SAMOLED+
Some complain about the hardware buttons, personally I like them
The capacitive buttons are too close to the LCD (prone to accidently hitting one while holding the device)
I owned the HTC HD7, the HTC Mozart, the LG Optimus 7 and the Omnia 7. So I think I can give a fair point of view.
In my opinion:
* the best is LG Optimus 7:
Pros:
16GB storage, nice battery life, DLNA, great augmented reality apps, speech to text, physical buttons (I hate capacitive buttons)
cons:
Ugly design, too much plastic, heavy weight, mediocre screen and camera, bad image of LG
* Followed by HTC Mozart:
Pros:
Very well balanced phone, HTC apps, aluminium body, 8MP camera, battery life is ok, speakers are of good quality.
cons:
8GB storage only, no HTC flashlight, no DLNA, screen a little bit small.
* Followed by Omnia 7:
Pros:
Wonderful elegant design, great S-Amoled screen
cons:
8GB storage only (at least in my country), very limited number of Samsung apps, no DLNA, a lot of annoying bugs that ruin the overall experience.
* In my opinion the HD7 is the worst.
Pros:
Screen size, kick stand, HTC apps, good call quality
cons:
Terrible screen resolution, horrible battery life, boring design, no DLNA, mediocre camera, mediocre 8GB storage only, terrible speakers (my God)...
I was surprised to discover that I really enjoy using the HTC Mozart and finally hated the HD7 (even if my previous phone was a HD2).
At first sight I fell in love with the Omnia 7 but was finally disappointing on a daily basis...
I have the Omnia 7 and all I can say is that it has terrible call quality and reception-issues.
Otherwise I love it.
By the looks of things there are no good WP7 phones available.
Lets hope Nokia can set things straight.
nizzon said:
By the looks of things there are no good WP7 phones available.
Lets hope Nokia can set things straight.
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This is true unfortunately...
Our WP7 devices are really underpowered, with poor storage.
MS shall really increase the minimum specifications now.
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This is true unfortunately...
Our WP7 devices are really underpowered, with poor storage.
MS shall really increase the minimum specifications now.
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I think, only Android and Bada/WM6 really needs dual core, 1GB RAM and some more, because the software isn't really good adapted on the devices.
On WP7, it is.
So for WP7-devices is a 1 year old Snapdragon enough - because they all have the same and Microsoft can easily adapt their OS on the hardware, and everything is running smooth.
On Android, it looks like the devices are requiring an Tegra2 or Exynos to run as good as WP7-devices.
Waste of power, just my opinion. Or do you want to tell your friends, how many cores your phone got?
Lower hardware specs make the devices much cheaper, you can see it on the Omnia7. Only 199€ in Europe.
But with the storage-thing I agree with you. It is really annoying, to have to buy a new phone if the storage is full and you want to save more music and apps on it, otherwise you only need to buy a new SD card...
Enough OT now
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arturobandini my omnia 7 has 16gb with 14.5gb available so that is not true
also i don't suffer from poor call quality, its crystal clear.
the only things i don't like about it
1. battery life could be better (its 50%) of how long my iphone 4 battery could last
2. not very ergonomic, don't understand the fascination of big phones that need 2 hands to compose a message
LGXX said:
I think, only Android and Bada/WM6 really needs dual core, 1GB RAM and some more, because the software isn't really good adapted on the devices.
On WP7, it is.
So for WP7-devices is a 1 year old Snapdragon enough - because they all have the same and Microsoft can easily adapt their OS on the hardware, and everything is running smooth.
On Android, it looks like the devices are requiring an Tegra2 or Exynos to run as good as WP7-devices.
Waste of power, just my opinion. Or do you want to tell your friends, how many cores your phone got?
Lower hardware specs make the devices much cheaper, you can see it on the Omnia7. Only 199€ in Europe.
But with the storage-thing I agree with you. It is really annoying, to have to buy a new phone if the storage is full and you want to save more music and apps on it, otherwise you only need to buy a new SD card...
Enough OT now
Sent from my LG 2X using xda premium app. Sorry 4 bad English :/
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I dont really care about dual core.
I want...
SAMOLED (or something equal in blacks)
Good reception and good call quality
at least 16gb storage
Good buildquality
Hardware homebutton
Is that too much to ask? It looks like it.
SicilianTony said:
arturobandini my omnia 7 has 16gb with 14.5gb available so that is not true
also i don't suffer from poor call quality, its crystal clear.
the only things i don't like about it
1. battery life could be better (its 50%) of how long my iphone 4 battery could last
2. not very ergonomic, don't understand the fascination of big phones that need 2 hands to compose a message
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Hello SicilianTony,
In my country the Omnia 7 is only available with 8GB unfortunately...
That's a shame.
Regarding call quality, I suppose I have been unlucky with my device in particular. Accrdingly I will modify my previous comment in order to give the most objective and fair review possible.
Hey there!
I've been thinking about getting a new phone during my time at telemarketing (can get them with a decent deal), but can't really decide which one should I choose. At the moment I have HTC Desire HD and I've had it for little over a year now.
I'm down to 3 different phones: Samsung Galaxy S3, HTC One X or Nokia Lumia 900. I can get GS3 and Lumia through the telemarketing, but for One X I would have to get it from somewhere else.
GS3 and One X would be awesome choices as they are pretty new models in the market (although, Lumia 900 isn't that old either) and I'm already familiar with the Android OS. I also like that they have a Quad-core processors and the screens are amazing too. But Lumia would be an interesting choice too as I like how fluid the whole OS works. It also has couple other standard features I really like, such as the Nokia Radio-mix or whatever it is called. The build of Lumia feels really sturdy, too.
And what I look from a phone is pretty much that it would look nice, work smoothly and could be customized to at least some extent, even the small customization of Lumia with the 7.8 update is enough for me. Oh and, music is one of the more important factors for me too (GS3 still being the best choice for this with the FLAC support).
So, if you have any suggestions, please tell me! But I must say that I have time until Saturday 30th 15:59CET, because that's my last day in the job.
And please share your own experiences and thoughts of the phones too!
Whatever you do DO NOT get the Lumia 900, they will fall in value very soon as it will not get Windows 8 making them redundant with 7.8. Get it if you plan to stick with the Version 7 of windows OS but future wise it'll be a dead beat.
I've had both the HOX and SGS3 and both are fantastic phones.
If you need expandable storage and a removable battery then get the SGS3 if you don't the HOX is a great alternative. It's screen is lovely, camera is better in my eyes, it looks better, and HTC is good with software updates.
The SGS3 has the better audio via headphones if that is of any significance, records better videos but sound not all that, the screen displays deeper blacks compared to the HOX and better contrasts but images appear over saturated compared to the more natural looking images on the SLCD2 on the HOX.
You'll be happy with either.
Hey im from Israel so im sry for my bad english.
I want to buy a new phone and im thinking about Lumia 820 but i want to know to about the disadvantage of the 820 against the Advantage of 920.
I want to know if this is really big different and its ok to buy the 820 because the price or to add more money and buy the 920.
Questions
1. Is there Big different between the display I mean the PPI?
2. the 820 have Pureview or not ?
3.Does the 820 have wireless charcing?
My assessment based on the specs from Nokia.com and from using both units at the AT&T store in the USA:
920 pros:
- 32GB built in
- better camera with pureview
- better screen with higher dpi
- free wireless charging offer in USA (built in coil in case plus free offer for charging unit)
- gorilla glass
920 cons:
- bigger/heavier
- fixed battery - looks like you need to totally disassemble and find a supplier of the BP-4GW battery which would probably need replacement after ~1 year of use just after warranty expires. Although it is Li-Po which should last longer than standard Li-Ion,
- no ram expansion
820 pros:
- light/small
- replaceable battery - easy to keep a charged spare on hand
- expandable ram to 72GB with 64GB microSDHX card
820 cons:
- only 8GB built in
- worse screen - lower dpi
- worse camera without pureview
- pay extra for wireless charging - need to buy optional charging shell with coil plus the charging unit itself
- no gorilla glass
The teardowns may be helpful:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Noki...eardown-treatment_id35930#5-Lumia-920-diagram
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/11/07/n...nternal-photos-bp-4gw-2000mah-battery-inside/
Specs:
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia810/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia820/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia822/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia920/specifications/
There really isn't a lot else to say. Its just personal preference.
danchar4 said:
My assessment based on the specs from Nokia.com and from using both units at the AT&T store in the USA:
920 pros:
- 32GB built in
- better camera with pureview
- better screen with higher dpi
- free wireless charging offer in USA (built in coil in case plus free offer for charging unit)
- gorilla glass
920 cons:
- bigger/heavier
- fixed battery - looks like you need to totally disassemble and find a supplier of the BP-4GW battery which would probably need replacement after ~1 year of use just after warranty expires. Although it is Li-Po which should last longer than standard Li-Ion,
- no ram expansion
820 pros:
- light/small
- replaceable battery - easy to keep a charged spare on hand
- expandable ram to 72GB with 64GB microSDHX card
820 cons:
- only 8GB built in
- worse screen - lower dpi
- worse camera without pureview
- pay extra for wireless charging - need to buy optional charging shell with coil plus the charging unit itself
- no gorilla glass
The teardowns may be helpful:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Noki...eardown-treatment_id35930#5-Lumia-920-diagram
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/11/07/n...nternal-photos-bp-4gw-2000mah-battery-inside/
Specs:
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia810/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia820/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia822/specifications/
http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia920/specifications/
There really isn't a lot else to say. Its just personal preference.
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Thank u so much !
If you want to make full usage of the pureview camera then go fo the 920 as it has all the trimmings and slightly larger screen/resolution, The 820 still takes a very nice picture as it is still 8MP, In my opinion the concept of the 820 is better as it has a removable battery and upgradable storage and weight/size wise it is lighter and more manageable, The screen has been noted as displaying a more vivd image compared to the 920 and you can change the outer shells, However it does not have Gorilla glass but instead a scratch resistant surface, It does have wireless charging too,
The design of the 820 diverts from the Traditional striking Lumia shape and looks like any other phone from a distance, Performance wise they both use the same chipset for CPU and RAM and there is little noted difference,
A difficult decision which I had to make and through personal choice I went for the 820 as I still felt it to be an upgrade from my Lumia 900.
You should get both in your hand. In my opinion 820 is already heavy and square-cut.
I tested Nokia Lumia 820 for 40 days. I sold this nokia. I back to iOS. Reasons:
- No good apps in appMarket
- terrible keypad ( texting )
- general sound management ( WTF?? )
- not customisable sms tones
- very heavy device
- not comfortable in my hand ( in 40 days period i drop 6-7 times from my hand )
- picture quality/ autofocus (iPhone 4 better)
iPhone 4 is 10000000000% better than Lumia 820.
P.S. I am testing all devices. Always back to iPhone. In my opinion:
1. iOS
2. Android
3. WP8
4. BlackBerry
Please, if You thinking that WP8 is better than iOS, please reply with reasons in this topic.
kind regards
Marcin
troxter said:
I tested Nokia Lumia 820 for 40 days. I sold this nokia. I back to iOS. Reasons:
- No good apps in appMarket
- terrible keypad ( texting )
- general sound management ( WTF?? )
- not customisable sms tones
- very heavy device
- not comfortable in my hand ( in 40 days period i drop 6-7 times from my hand )
- picture quality/ autofocus (iPhone 4 better)
iPhone 4 is 10000000000% better than Lumia 820.
P.S. I am testing all devices. Always back to iPhone. In my opinion:
1. iOS
2. Android
3. WP8
4. BlackBerry
Please, if You thinking that WP8 is better than iOS, please reply with reasons in this topic.
kind regards
Marcin
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Sounds like a very thorough and thought out review there. Apps will arrive, you have to accept that if you buy into Windows 8 your an early adopter (rather than a sheeple folloeing the iDevices crowd) so that aside lets look at your other statements:
Very heavy - I find the Samsung's for example way too light, you want your phone to have some weight so it feels like it has some build quality to it and you won;t throw it down so hard.
Terrible Keypad - well aside form no qualifiers whatsoever, lets look at many other reviews and technical opinions on the Windows Keyboard being far superior to most others. such as hold and swipe to get 2nd key function, saves so much time.
No customizable SMS tone - oh, i think we found a true criticism, i have to agree here. I was hoping window s8 would allow new alert tones.
General sound management - ?? You have in call and main volume then games have their own volume controls that provide finite volume adjustment.
Picture quality - well my 900 always takes better pictures than my gf's iPhone 4. I doubt the 820 is any worse but i'll let you know when mine arrives.
Doesn't feel comfortable in your hand - but an iPhone with almost identical shape does?
@ Troxter
How much are you paid by Apple to write such things ?
90% of Ipfone applications are shorcuts of a web Explorer leading to sites that have adapted their page definition
Before IPhone there were phones with 6.5 Windows doing alla what an IPhone does and mostly without connection.
But at that Time, noobs knew only Nokia....
And to be "anti Microsoft" is for some peaple the only way to look as geek, otherwise they are bubbles
i have had the lumia 820 in the uk now for a week now, its a fantastic handset does everything i need and much more carnt comment on the 920 as would not consider one because of there size, as for screen clarity the lumia 820 is superb crisp and clear, the added advantage is removable back shell to another colour, i have had the iphone 4s and iphone 4 and the lumia 820 beats them both handsdown its a far better device in everyway in my my opinion.
i dont think there will be envy over some one having the 920 as the lumia 820 does all i need and much more.
the lumia series are fantastic handsets and the new improvments especially in the music sound quality is great.
its all about personal choice for me the lumia 820 is my choice.
while hardware (screen, speed, camera) of the Lumia is really great, I'm not convinced
that W8 is as ergonomic as my android. There are so many things I can customize in
android and so few in W8. Maybe time will bring some more, but currently I think
It's hard for people experienced in other OS to change.
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Jericoacoara said:
while hardware (screen, speed, camera) of the Lumia is really great, I'm not convinced
that W8 is as ergonomic as my android. There are so many things I can customize in
android and so few in W8. Maybe time will bring some more, but currently I think
It's hard for people experienced in other OS to change.
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We don't car about your Android mania her we talk about Nokia 820 and 920.
People knowing DOS at a time were against Windows ...even IBM.....
Anyway Tiles concept are a genious invention compare to Icons were its difficult to type the right one.
And Icons were invented I guess by MS
820, good enough
I wanted to buy my phone outright, I don't like contracts.
I felt there were two downsides to the 820. 8GB storage, not having gorilla glass.
I've found that after installing a bunch of applications, and the nokia maps sizes, that the 8gb gets used up very quickly. The SD expandable slot is only good for music, videos, and pictures. All application data for whatever reason has to go on the internal memory so in a years time I might regret the decision.
But I personally don't find the need for the 720p or WXGA resolution that necessary.
That being said, I could have done with a Nokia 620, but it isn't out until February really.. but it is far cheaper!
My opinion for WP8
As I use to used SGS2 and Iphone4 before and now own Lumia 820
- WP8 bring a new thing mostly for interface
- WP8 bring a lot of new feature and technology
- WP8 lack of basic feature such as separate notification in each application, no file explorer then cannot save/send/attach some files type with email and etc.
- WP8 update is take time too much compare with Iphone and Android they are release hot fix soonest.
- WP8 application not good functional such as Skype, Facebook. I'm Focus to Skype that is OWN by MS but too poor while position it to be replaced MSN.
- WP8 not support others browser than IE10, it is not have 'Forward' and others feature.
- WP8 cannot close app with one click/touch, have to get back step by step
- WP8 not support static IP address
- WP8 cannot lock screen rotation.
- WP8 not have short cut directly setup Wi-Fi, BT and etc. Only have app that bring you into that screen.
- Still more but I just stop here is better
Above from my opinion, I'm MS fan but I'm thinking to go back Android until most of the thing provided. MS should consider and focus most of basic features must available too. New thing is great and surprise, however the basic thing is more often use customer is no only in US. Many feature is really useless.
Hope this information get take care soon before I change back to Android (even it lag need to reboot some time but still had many things I can use)
Its not an Android Topic
pungponx said:
As I use to used SGS2 and Iphone4 before and now own Lumia 820
- WP8 bring a new thing mostly for interface
- WP8 bring a lot of new feature and technology
- WP8 lack of basic feature such as separate notification in each application, no file explorer then cannot save/send/attach some files type with email and etc.
- WP8 update is take time too much compare with Iphone and Android they are release hot fix soonest.
- WP8 application not good functional such as Skype, Facebook. I'm Focus to Skype that is OWN by MS but too poor while position it to be replaced MSN.
- WP8 not support others browser than IE10, it is not have 'Forward' and others feature.
- WP8 cannot close app with one click/touch, have to get back step by step
- WP8 not support static IP address
- WP8 cannot lock screen rotation.
- WP8 not have short cut directly setup Wi-Fi, BT and etc. Only have app that bring you into that screen.
- Still more but I just stop here is better
Above from my opinion, I'm MS fan but I'm thinking to go back Android until most of the thing provided. MS should consider and focus most of basic features must available too. New thing is great and surprise, however the basic thing is more often use customer is no only in US. Many feature is really useless.
Hope this information get take care soon before I change back to Android (even it lag need to reboot some time but still had many things I can use)
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We don't care about your Android mania her we talk about Nokia 820 and 920.
People knowing DOS at a time were against Windows ...even IBM.....
Anyway Tiles concept are a genious invention compare to Icons were its difficult to type the right one.
And Icons were invented I guess by MS
good points. thank you
I've sold iphone 4 and bought lumia 820. I've used it for 2 days.
First, Lumia 820 is quite attractive, not too heavy. Although it is quite big but it is not a big deal 'cos the screen of lumia is bigger than iphone.
Next, Apps for lumia are less than Apple or Google 'cos Windows 8 was released later than others.
I think that windows 8 will have been more convenient in future.
It's hard to state what phone is better. It depends on your opinion, on work, and on the way to entertain.
By the way, you should not regret when you choose a phone.
the 810 has gorilla glass 2 and I believe that the 822 does as well...
lumia 820 or 920
andy1969 said:
i have had the lumia 820 in the uk now for a week now, its a fantastic handset does everything i need and much more carnt comment on the 920 as would not consider one because of there size, as for screen clarity the lumia 820 is superb crisp and clear, the added advantage is removable back shell to another colour, i have had the iphone 4s and iphone 4 and the lumia 820 beats them both handsdown its a far better device in everyway in my my opinion.
i dont think there will be envy over some one having the 920 as the lumia 820 does all i need and much more.
the lumia series are fantastic handsets and the new improvments especially in the music sound quality is great.
its all about personal choice for me the lumia 820 is my choice.
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Yes after lots of evaluation I chose the 820 also. My contract was up, so I visited a few shops to see the devices actually working. I was a samsung omnia 7 user for 2 years, and superficially I got used to the amoled look, deep blacks and eye popping colors. I had 8gb on my omnia and never ran out of memory, mainly because Im not a great foto-geek and tend to uninstall apps and craps that I never use much. The 920 has a high resolution screen and I noticed that, but the colours(although more natural) were a bit subdued for me. Just the idea of a removable battery and an sdcard slot plus removable shells werethe decision point for me . So I went for the cyan 820, and love it although compared to the omnia 7 it is quite heavy. But whenever I see sexy Jessica alba chicks with 920s I ALWAYS compliment them on their choice.
Hello guys .
How can I find out my lumia 820 is cons or pros ?
My device have Amoled display and removable battery .
The glass on 820 is scratch-resistant, but it’s not Gorilla Glass
There is no gorilla glass on Lumia 820, but the glass on 820 is scratch-resistant.
danchar4 said:
My assessment based on the specs from Nokia.com and from using both units at the AT&T store in the USA...
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I currently have a Nexus One, and though it served me for about 3 years, I am kinda unpleased by the minor hardware problems it has, such as the screwed-up multitouch, misplaced capacitive buttons sensors, limited WiFi speed (b/g), no front-facing camera, low memory space etc. I am not a "high-end freak" so I don't need a dual-core or higher device. That's why I'm considering the Nexus S, since it fixes all the problems mentioned above and it has Android 4.2.2 which is more than enough for me. However, my attention is also drawn to the Windows Phone 7 devices. I kinda like "standing out from the ordinary" since most people (well... all, to be honest) have either Androids or iPhones, so having a WP7 might be an interesting experience, given the phones also have good specs (for me). The LG Optimus 7 is too poor-looking: hardware navigational buttons, no front-facing camera, plastic, etc. so it is out of question. The Omnia 7 seems quite good, having a 4" S-AMOLED screen and all the extras found on the Nexus S. The Nokia Lumia phones also seem to be good.
My main use of a smartphone is multimedia: Facebook, Yahoo Messenger, photos, video- and audio-chats, videos, songs and so on. I don't want GTA3 or N.O.V.A or any other demanding games (that's why I don't need a dual-core). So... do you think the Nexus S is still worth buying today, or should WP7 fulfill my needs better?
Thanks!
You could easily go either way. If the OS doesn't matter much, then look around and see which one you like better. WP7 devices don't need high end specs to perform better, since the OS is much lighter and less demanding than Android. Android devices benefit greatly from spec increases.
Neither one is really a "better" choice overall for everyone. It's all dependent on your personal tastes. It sounds to me like you're looking to try something different and stand out more, so a Nokia Lumia in one of the colored models might be just what you're looking for. Lumia 800 and 900 models are selling for decent prices now. A bit more than a Nexus S, but worth it for "standing out" in a crowd.
gnexus47 said:
I currently have a Nexus One, and though it served me for about 3 years, I am kinda unpleased by the minor hardware problems it has, such as the screwed-up multitouch, misplaced capacitive buttons sensors, limited WiFi speed (b/g), no front-facing camera, low memory space etc. I am not a "high-end freak" so I don't need a dual-core or higher device. That's why I'm considering the Nexus S, since it fixes all the problems mentioned above and it has Android 4.2.2 which is more than enough for me. However, my attention is also drawn to the Windows Phone 7 devices. I kinda like "standing out from the ordinary" since most people (well... all, to be honest) have either Androids or iPhones, so having a WP7 might be an interesting experience, given the phones also have good specs (for me). The LG Optimus 7 is too poor-looking: hardware navigational buttons, no front-facing camera, plastic, etc. so it is out of question. The Omnia 7 seems quite good, having a 4" S-AMOLED screen and all the extras found on the Nexus S. The Nokia Lumia phones also seem to be good.
My main use of a smartphone is multimedia: Facebook, Yahoo Messenger, photos, video- and audio-chats, videos, songs and so on. I don't want GTA3 or N.O.V.A or any other demanding games (that's why I don't need a dual-core). So... do you think the Nexus S is still worth buying today, or should WP7 fulfill my needs better?
Thanks!
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i prefer nexus S..
Rather than having 500000000 threads comparing GS4 to One, put all your thoughts in here.
Don't forget to vote.
Here is a good list posted by -]Megacharge[- - which I think most would agree with - if you came to the thread looking for quick overview, here it is:
S4:
-Bigger screen
-Removable storage
-Removable battery
-Can use screen with gloves on
-Marginally faster benchmark scores in the S600 version
-Much faster benchmark scores in the Exynos version
-TouchWiz including a bunch of S-software (which some people may find useful - HTC's betting on design as their number one selling point. Samsung's doing the same with software features)
-IR LED (TV Remote)
-Android 4.2.2
[Gorilla Glass 3, 1.9MHz clock speed, DDR3, thinner, lighter, bigger display in smaller footprint]
One:
-Higher PPI and color accuracy
-Design
-IR LED (TV Remote)
-Dual front facing speakers (great speakers)
-Dual membrane mics
-Sense 5 (incredibly fluid with no lag and looks more "adult" than touchwiz)
-Low light camera performance
-Android 4.1.2
[Gorilla Glass 2, 1.7MHz clock speed, DDR2, chunkier, a little heavier, aluminium body]
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Honestly not much. The hard ware is close to identical. As far as software goes I don't really pay to much attention as I would flash CM. To either.
GS4
Better GPU
Lighter
Battery life
Faster CPU clock
Bigger Screen
HTC
Aluminum body
More PPI
Looks better imho
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djbenny1 said:
This is not a troll thread - though I suspect it will be perceived as such.
I honestly want to know what it is people think is actually better about the GS4.
I'm sure some people will say "everything" but please vote for one, and then comment on why.
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Sadly this thread will turn into a flame war and will get shut down with the quickness. They both have their pros and cons.
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I'm not going to even comment on this thread (from now on) - my opinions will be kept entirely to myself.
I am honestly just curious.
PS - don't just comment - vote!
FYI I voted for Dev Support as I think we all know it will sell more.
Swisser said:
Honestly not much. The hard ware is close to identical. As far as software goes I don't really pay to much attention as I would flash CM. To either.
GS4
Better GPU
Lighter
Battery life
Faster CPU clock
Bigger Screen
HTC
Aluminum body
More PPI
Looks better imho
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You said aluminum body + looks better, don't they go together? HTC is trying very hard to sell its "premium look" more than anything else
Swyped from another galaxy
LOOkS and BUILD QUALITY-htc wins..
CPU - samsung.. because having those a15 is really gonna help that 1080 screen on heavy tasks..
GPU- samsung again.. people who game will really find it better.. and it being power vr means games wil get better optimized faster amd be better on the s4..
SD slot, removable battery- samsung
MUSIC HEADPHONE quality- no idea.. but beats suck
And dont know if samsung is using that wolfson dac which is good af
SCREEN- no one wins .subjective.. I love amoleds and that 1080 amoled looks sexy. But the htc also has one hell of an lcd screen
UI- subjective.. I find sense better but blinkfeed is nonsense. But touchwiz is functional
DEVELOPMENT- samsung... and S- off sucks..lol..
BATTERY- Ssamsung.. looking at samsungs history of phones, they always had better battery.. I heard htc one has come up though.. byt u bet the new s4 will be even better than the s3 and htc one
Samsung also has some extra features which maybe considered as gimmicks.. but zoe,drama shot , erase features and other editing stuffs are in both..
I might buy both... htc for that built, but in the end samsung for that power and development wins it all
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HTC has louder sound and better on speakers.
HTC is full of metal vs Samsung plastic - so better build quality.
HTC has better AnTuTu scores and higher clock. (GSIV has 1.6Ghz - says gsmarena.com).
HTC has famous "Sense" which is way better than Touchwiz in my opinion.
HTC's camera is better on dark places.
HTC is more compact.
HTC has better xda development. (Exynos is bad documentated and HTC already has great devs workin' on it - and yeah team Venom).
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Not sure about GPU, I'd say Samsung is better.
Samsung has bigger screen.
Samsung has head moving are pausing things
Floating touch (I would turn it off but I would say floating touch games maybe - that would be interesting).
Samsung will update its device way more than HTC to newer android versions.
Samsung has external SD up to 64GB. So you could have impressing 126GB of memory for your files!
Samsung has better camera in my opinion.
Samsung has bigger battery.
Samsung is more sold device - more support (bit that doesn't mean anything).
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Tie:
AMOLED vs SLCD - depends on person.
Hard to break or easily removable battery.
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Overall HTC is better as "pure android experience or AOSP and pure performance and great made phone".
And Sammy software things and functionality.
But I think I am going for HTC if screen is big enough.
I tried to do review not being fanboy of both!
Swisser said:
Honestly not much. The hard ware is close to identical. As far as software goes I don't really pay to much attention as I would flash CM. To either.
GS4
Better GPU
Lighter
Battery life
Faster CPU clock
Bigger Screen
HTC
Aluminum body
More PPI
Looks better imho
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I thought the GPU was the same?
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Removable storage is pretty much the key reason for me. I really don't understand why manufacturers chose not to include such an obvious feature in their devices...
MichaelMcEntire said:
I thought the GPU was the same?
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No.lol.. the gpu in internationao s4 is powervr.. the one iphones and ipads use
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I'll break this down to two simple facts.
1. Expandable storage is a deal breaker for me. The One has no expandable storage, so when you run out of space, you're done - time to start eating up your mobile data plan for cloud services. Deal breaker.
2. S-Off is terrible. Something tells me one reason HTC stopped providing expandable storage slots in their phones is due to the way the Vivid had to be S-Off'ed. You have to short out a contact point on the phone's main board with the ground on the SD slot to hack the damn S-Off. Maybe this was a major flaw and combined with other reasons, they just decided they would scrap the storage slot altogether. Without S-Off, the whole process of flashing new ROMs becomes more tedious and annoying. And let's not forget that you can scrap the idea of flashing new radios to your device if you can't S-Off an HTC phone. HTC is not too developer-friendly lately...
Is it even possible to S-Off the One X or X+? I haven't looked at those boards in detail in quite a while.
Wow that was a long answer for two simple facts.
Sent from my HTC PH39100...soon to be Galaxy S4.
The fact that Samsung seems to be listening to their customers (unlike HTC), is what does it.
Advantages of the One:
-Premium build, subjectively better design
-Camera optimized for low-light environments
-Screen is objectively better at accurate color reproduction
-Stereo speakers
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Is that what customers want? Some, sure. But it seems like HTC is playing Apple's form > function game. And they won't win, because their software, battery life and camera are not up to par.
What does the S4 have?
-Packs a larger display into a body that is smaller, slimmer and lighter than the S3 (yet people will still go around complaining that 5" is 'just too big'), more ergonomic than the hard edges of the One's design
-Display benefits from power savings of PenTile matrix while the resolution nullifies any complaints about its perceived sharpness; EDIT: actually, the display utilizes a new, brighter PHOLED technology and a completely different PenTile 'diamond' matrix that seems to address most complaints about the S3's display on their own
-Display is subjectively better then the One's for some—AND has built-in screen tuning options for those that want accurate, natural colors (Movie/Cinema mode on the S3/Note 2 is comparable to sRGB emulation mode on a wide gamut monitor in my own side-by-side comparisons)
-Display's infinite contrast is objectively better, and the lower reflectivity and sunlight legibility is something other manufacturers have fallen behind with their 1080p displays
-Superior homegrown SoC (although I have no idea why the U.S. is stuck with Qualcomm again with all the new LTE tech the Exynos chipset has); people knocking the big.LITTLE architecture seem to be ignoring the purpose of it (it's not just 'twice as many cores' or 'not-really-eight-cores')
-1.7mm thinner than the One, yet it packs a larger, removable battery and microSD slot (deja vu)
-USB 3.0 on the Exynos
-TouchWiz is better than Sense, despite subjectivity over appearance: lighter, smoother, less buggy, closer to vanilla Android in functionality and packed with extra features (many which are actually useful) that can be easily turned off—vs. a bloated interface that tries to undermine the Android interface and sticks you with homescreen limitations like a Flipboard knock-off that can't be fully disabled; I personally find Sense even uglier than TouchWiz with its mix of colorful icons and flat black theming
-A camera that, for another generation in a row, doesn't ruin its image quality with overaggressive noise reduction and processing like HTC's offerings, while packing as many features as one would want into the camera app (like the ability to make animated GIF's with static backgrounds easily)
-Battery life that is sure to surpass its predecessor, unlike the lackluster battery performance seen in the One/Butterfly/DNA
-Gorilla Glass 3 over the One's Gorilla Glass 2
-Unified delivery to all carriers, while the One's future on a major carrier like Verizon is still just rumors
-Latest JellyBean 4.2.2 vs. One's JellyBean 4.1, and not only a much better commitment to and delivery of updates than HTC, but a commitment to and delivery of bringing new software features to older flagship devices when they don't depend on new hardware
-The ability to run ANY two apps side-by-side on the screen at the same time for multitasking—and the ability to run pop-up apps like the browser, video player, calculator, etc. on top of that
-Not only are features like the delivered Air Gestures and Eye Scroll useful and polished (maybe not so much with Eye Scroll's polish), but Floating Touch is major: completely new and unique screen tech that essentially gives you a mouse cursor for hovering, which is a boon for web browsing and Adobe Flash
-Unlocked bootloader vs. the One's locked bootloader (despite all the negative feedback HTC received previously)
While the S4 might not blow anyone away at first glance, it's clear that Samsung pays attention to things that matter when it comes to using your device, down to the details that everyone else seems to overlook. The One is a beautiful phone to look at and hold, but beyond that it holds the same disappointments that held HTC back the last time around.
GGXtreme said:
The fact that Samsung seems to be listening to their customers (unlike HTC), is what does it.
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I hope you're joking.
I know many people are not fans of the home button, but I use the hell out of it my S3 and I prefer to use it when activating the display from sleep mode. Many times when my phone is just laying on the table, I can just hit the home button and swipe down for messages or to change songs etc. I just find it much more easy to access than the power button. I do prefer the look of the HTC over the S4.
GGXtreme said:
The fact that Samsung seems to be listening to their customers (unlike HTC), is what does it.
Advantages of the One:
-Premium build, subjectively better design
-Camera optimized for low-light environments
-Screen is objectively better at accurate color reproduction
-Stereo speakers
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Stereo speakers on a device that small, the HTC One, is pointless anyway. The whole point of stereo is so you can differentiate the sounds in each ear, thereby creating the stereo effect. With two speakers so close together, the sounds will mesh together by the time they hit your ears anyway, making a more monaural sound.
I think the only real advantage HTC has is the build quality of the phone. But that advantage is moot to me because I always put a nice case on whatever phone I buy.
Sent from my HTC PH39100.
vapotrini said:
I hope you're joking.
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Please point out any errors in my reasoning. I think I made a decent case, care to actually make one yourself?
When you compare the two there's not a lot that's unique going for the One except for it's beautiful all-aluminum design and dual speakers. The fact that it's the same physical size (while being thicker and heavier) as the SGS4 with last year's 4.7" display size isn't going to help it. Here's a quick run down comparing the two. It was the answer to "why would anyone buy the SGS4 over the One" from thier forum.
Larger 5" SAMOLED display with vibrant colors
Thinner and lighter with other dimensions being near equal
13MP camera (more detail)
Better battery life, bigger and removable battery
Replaceable back cover if its damaged
Expandable storage
Gorilla Glass 3 (versus 2)
Android 4.2.2 (vs. 4.1.2, at least for now)
Dual Camera (insert yourself in to photos you take)
Drama Shot (a simpler Zoe)
Sound and Shot to record voice comments on still photos
Story Album to create and send printed photo albums
Share Music to turn multiple SGS4's in to surround sound
Group Play to share content across multiple devices without the need for a Wi-FI connection
S-Translator integrated in to multiple apps like e-mail and the stock browser
Smart Pause/Smart Scroll to use your eyes to control the device
All the existing motion and voice controls Samsung provides in TW
Air View to expand content by hovering your finger over it
A display you can use with gloves on
S Voice Drive which maximizes the size of what's displayed and allows motion and voice to control things you use when driving
Optical Reader integrated in to stock apps to import data via the camera
S Health to track weight, blood pressure, exercise, etc.
I'll take a stab at the One's advantages over the SGS4. For the sake of discussion assume the SGS4 being compared against is an LTE version running S-600 too. Things like LCD vs. AMOLED and Sense vs. TW are obviously based on personal preference.
Beautiful all-aluminum unibody design
LCD display with bright realistic colors
Sense’s more aesthetically pleasing appearance
UltraPixels (better low light performance)
Dual front facing speakers
Zoe
BlinkFeed
It’s not made by Samsung (for the haters )
Other than Zoe and BlinkFeed Sense 5 is carry over from earlier versions. Even LG's doing a lot more with s/w than HTC. The lack of s/w features, whether they are real or gimmicks, is going to hurt the One with the masses who like "more" rather than less; especially at the same price.
LG already offers several special apps on its Android smartphones, like QSlide for viewing two apps at once on a device's display and QRemote for controlling home entertainment gear. Today LG expanded is software offerings with another new feature dubbed "Smart Video." According to LG, Smart Video takes advantage of eye recognition technology to track a user's eye movements while he or she is watching a video and, when it detects that user isn't looking at the device's display, it will pause the clip automatically. Playback will resume when the device detects that the user is once again looking at the screen. LG says that Smart Video will be rolled out soon as part of a Value Pack update. In addition to Smart Video, the Value Pack will include a Dual Camera feature that will take photos using the front and back cameras simultaneously, Magic Remote Keypad and Text Keypad additions to the QRemote app, Video Pause/Resume that will allow users to stop and start while capturing a video to create one continuous clip, and a set of color emoticons. The Smart LED Lighting surrounding the LG Optimus G Pro's physical home button will also be updated to allow users to assign colors to specific contacts.
Toleraen said:
Removable storage is pretty much the key reason for me. I really don't understand why manufacturers chose not to include such an obvious feature in their devices...
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I don't understand this storage business if the minimum available storage option for a phone is 32GB?
How many things do most people put on their phones? All the people I know who own a GS3 have a 16GB model with no micro SD card and they continuously make the lack of expandable storage on recent phones a big deal.
At the moment I have no idea which one I want more, I will likely get the GS4 because HTC One has a good chance at not showing up on Verizon. (entirely Verizon's fault though, looks like Verizon has been screwing over HTC for quite awhile recently, the lack of expandable storage was due to Verizon not HTC on the DNA; and the One's availability looks like to be another Verizon issue; I also am pretty positive for it developement being slightly better than the DNA since it is multicarrier)
I do really like the GS4 though, it's design was something I did not like on the GS3 either though.
TingTingin said:
Your intentions may be pure but you can't expect commentors to follow suit you'll be bombarded with opinions and border line exaggerations u should try android general
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This is one of the least trolly forums. Go hang on youtube for a while, the bottom of the internet comments there..