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[Q] Samsung Galaxy S vs HTC Desire

I'm going to buy a new phone very soon, and have some difficulties in choosing the perfect phone..
After a lot of thinking and reading I've come to a conclusion that it will either be the Samsung Galaxy S or the HTC Desire.
Samsung Galaxy S has overall exceedingly better hardware (GPU,CPU,Camera) than the HTC Desire, but the software, TouchWiz 3.0 looks like **** (iOS copy). Therefore I'm also thinking of buying HTC Desire since HTC Sense looks brilliant.
I want Galaxy S because of the amazing screen and the FLAC support which is quite important to me as I have the Monster Turbine Gold Pro headphones, and I don't want to waste them on bad audio quality. The HTC Desire as I said earlier has HTC Sense which is an extremely attractive UI, but then again it lacks the ability to play FLAC files and the screen is supposedly useless in direct sunlight.
Galaxy also lacks flash, but I could live without it as Galaxy's camera is better than Desire's.
Is the audio quality on the Galaxy S a lot better than the Desire, or is the FLAC support just there for advertisement, does it actually play FLAC in the quality it should be played?
HTC Desire from my understanding has already gotten Froyo while Galaxy has to wait till the end of September, is this true?
Is there any possibility that Galaxy S will get ROM for HTC Sense?
Which Phone is the better one and why?
Thanks in advance
Please do not come with recommendations of phones using another OS than Andriod and that doesn't sell in Europe.

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I would choose Desire as it´s HTC build and has Sense
Better design as well!

The Galaxy S has a 4" screen with a the faster hummingbird processor. Front facing camera.
I'd choose the Galaxy S.

Major hardware specs are probably agreed to be better for the Galaxy S over the Desire (i.e. cpu, gpu functionality, ram, screen) - that's something you can't change.
Externally, the Desire hardware design is nicer (subjective) - but that's something that a skin or case can change.
If you need a flash then that may be an important factor to you. The Samsung has had issues with gps (although that may be fixed now) and some lag (although all potentially suffer from that - may also be something that'll be fixed in firmware updates) - these are also mostly subjective though.
Desire has 2.2 already, Samsung has committed to bringing it to the Galaxy so that's hopefully a moot issue.
HTC do turn out phones rather quick so their current top may not be there for long - Samsung don't push that many out so their current champ *may* be so for longer and *may* get longer support...
Both are ultimately great. Software is software so you shouldn't really go on that - interfaces can be changed. Go with what you feel and what you can get the best overall deal on - I doubt neither would leave you wishing you had got the other.

Music quality
I'm leaning towards the Galaxy S.
Still not sure, only remaining factor would be whether the music quality on the Galaxy S is actually better than on the Desire.
Anybody tried to play music on both with good headphones?

I'm also about to get a new phone and my choices were basically between those two. I'm not enthralled by the fact that both have PenTile screens (which makes text less sharp, as they don't have the full complement of subpixels) but there's not really anything else in the UK at their level, and the Galaxy S' screen is both bigger and unambiguously better, particularly in sunlight. The Galaxy S also has a much better multi-touch digitiser - the Desire has the same one as the Nexus One, which only supports two points of contact and gets easily confused.
The Galaxy S also has a slightly better CPU and a much better GPU, and more built-in storage (though that's not very important), while the Desire has more RAM and a camera flash but is otherwise outclassed hardware-wise. But the Desire is more polished software-wise, with HTC Sense and without the lag and GPS issues of the Galaxy S - but it's early days and Samsung are clearly working hard on firmware so hopefully these will be fixed, and there's workarounds for the lag. The Desire also has the advantage that developers around here are more familiar with HTC devices, but there's work on porting CyanogenMod to the Galaxy S which suggests that developers are taking it seriously.
I'm going to go with the Galaxy S because of its hardware advantages - software can be changed but hardware can't etc. TouchWiz 3 gets mixed reviews, but it's always possible to just use something like Launcher Pro instead, that being the advantage of having an open OS!
Afraid I can't comment on the audio performance of the phones though.

audio and video are both excellent in the galaxy s (vibrant here)... I got one force close on touchwiz... it was day one and I was putting my phone under as much stress as I could... its the only one so far...
My quadrant score is between 1400 and 1500, linpack is between 8.3 and 8.5
--this blows all htc devices with the same software away...--
My phone gets 55+ fps on neocore and finishes the benchmark ten seconds quicker than a desire..
with all the different versions coming out and the developer support I see growing galaxy s hands down
(I have also owned or tested nearly every htc gsm android device... minus the aria, and desire.. )

As a current Vibrant owner I was unsure whether to wait it out for the rumored HTC handsets coming to TMO. I'm glad I didn't, the screen is unbelievable, the processor is lightning fast, and the dedicated gpu makes gaming an experience. In other words pick up the phone use a home replacement app, and you'll be good to go.
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Galaxy S has froyo now leaked but all working

I think I'll go for the Samsung Galaxy S.
As a lot of you have said already the software can always be changed, hardware on the other hand, cannot.
I still want to know, just out of curiosity, if the Galaxy S' sound quality is actually better than Desire's?
If the sound quality is noticeably better on the Galaxy S' I'll 100% go for it, if not, I'll most likely go for it anyway.
Seems like almost nobody actually tried the music on both.

From the reviews I read people said sound was definitely better then the Desire...

All I can offer on audio quality is this:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-review-478p6.php
According to that GSMArena review it has a flatter frequency response curve than the Desire, lower noise levels and higher dynamic range.
I don't have personal experience of it though, so I can't vouch for how it sounds myself.
Edit: It does do some odd filtering on headphones, though, which can apparently be turned off:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735918

I'm going to buy the Samsung Galaxy S.
Thank you to everyone that replied to my posts.

Just to stir things up!!!
My partner received her galaxy last week, within 3 days she had returned it for the Desire. and is completely satisfied, as am I, that she made the correct choice.
Don’t get me wrong, the Galaxy was a nice phone. but it was very light and plasticy which was a major turn off for us. Plus the audio quality was no where near as good as the Desire.
on paper the Galaxy may have better hardware performance, but let me tell, actually using both devices you don’t notice anything different, other than the Desire feels like its built properly.
That’s just our opinion, but hope it helps you

dont know, the galaxy S should be faster and better than the desire... but i tried it at the store, hell, it has loading times wtf Oo some friends got desires.. they never really need to load long..
i think thats cause the touchwiz **** from samsung.. if there would be a possibility to flash a stock froyo rom (probably there is already one), that phone would be awsome, but ONLY THEN.
but i have to say.. i love the screen. its smaller then the one from my hd2.. but still big. for me its the almost perfect size of screen. probably 4.1" would be better, but 4" is enough, i lile it. + the super amoled screen is really fantastic
the only thing why the galaxy s is crappy is the software.. if someone gets that fixes, its the best android for my opinion^.^
EDIT: btw, for me the desire screen is just too small i could NEVER enjoy surfing with that...

gdallas said:
Plus the audio quality was no where near as good as the Desire.
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That does sound kinda weird, as GSMarena did say that the audio quality was amazing. There is a fix for getting the phone to sound good through headphones, and BTW, what kind of headphones did you use?

Sony bud earphhones. the sound isss both better in ear and via speaker

Short comment from me as i do have both of them in my hand for a while already.
What Desire have in advance:
- flash light
- much better mail client, support for meeting requests (create, accept, etc..)
- much easier switch of USB mode
- much better phone dial pad with really working search
- more widgets
- search in exchange global address list from peoples list (everywhere), displays even phone numbers not just email
- really good sw keyboard
What Galaxy S have in advance:
- better camera, picture is actually more crisper and more real colors
- much better display, with more precise multi-touch
- better battery live (lifetime was about 135% of Desire in my case, same usage)
- better sound from build is speaker (good for in-car instructions or as "radio")
- can play almost every audio/video format without noticeable lacking
- 3d accelerator, much higher FPS for 3d games
- 2 gigs ROM = more applications can be installed, good especially for games as games can be big
(i now froyo allows you to move it to SD card, but no app supports it so far)
- and have more sexy design!
My conclusion:
If you are sort of corporate user, with high usage of email and especially Exchange, go for Desire.
If you are multimedia freak or gamer, go for Samsung.
Howk!

I find some of the software comparisons in this thread a little hard to swallow. There are over 63,000 (over 100,000 including paid) FREE apps/widgets/keyboards/games/FLAC that can be downloaded and installed without needing any form of root or warranty voiding modification.
The sound comparison may be the only issue. However, most of the sound problem is resolved by using lossless compression: FLAC, WMA, or otherwise (an app supporting various formats can be downloading for either device!). I have yet to notice a different between a qualcomm cpu's audio processing or a samsung cpu's audio processing - when using the same headphones, and same audio file. I mean... really???

I'm getting quite confused.
Some say that the Desire's sound quality is better, some Galaxy S' is better.
Which one of these two statements are actually true? Some even say that the sound quality is the same...
Looking at the poll it looks like most people think that the Galaxy S is better, so if to just go by the poll the Galaxy S would win, but well, democracy isn't always correct.
BTW nightswim, nice post, very detailed and nice to hear from someone who owns both. Would you say that the sound quality on both phones are the same? Since you said, and I'm quoting "better sound from build is speaker" (I assume that u meant "built in"), would that mean that the sound quality is only better on the Galaxy S when listening through the built in speakers?
Bottom line: Galaxy S is overall definitely the hardware king and Desire the software king , but still extremely confused about the sound quality.

Help me win against the Iphone 4!

Alright, so i was chosen to represent our beloved Samsung Captivate at my university tomorrow. We will be on OWL TV (Florida Atlantic University's TV station) in a head to head match between the Samsung Captivate and the Iphone 4 as the best phone. There will be an At&t Rep in the background so i need to know my facts!
I need to know EVERYTHING i can say that will completely obliterate any chance of the Iphone 4 winning.
I am going to be going to work in about 15 minutes, so i wont be able to check back on here until tonight, but i will DEFINITELY be using the information in this thread tomorrow at 5:30 when i go on.
If you can, please not only say the feature of the Captivate, but also why it is better than the Iphone 4.
Lastly, i don think that hacking features (such as rooting, sideloading, etc are a good thing to say in front of the At&t rep, and it might be too techy for the majority)
Thanks Everyone! Help me win!! >

Live wallpapers-- better because i like a little fluid motion
Backing from google- Apple is a bunch of blood sucking douchebags (no antenna problem)
Better dev community - apple really doesn't have one
mobile hotspot- enough said
widgets- no need to waste time opening an entire app
Not just one update per year - apple only gives about one major update and thats when new phone comes out
What you'll have to think of
1) Why android isn't mass produced? It is, and potentially a bad thing
2) iphone is "premium materials", slip beautiful screen/display
3)camera is much better on iphone. (1080p video)
Matter of preference
Bigger screen vs more clear screen

heres a few things that i think put the captivate over the iphone
- play flash in browser
- plays DIVX files
- super AMOLED screen is pretty nice
- has HDMI out using micro usb
- widgets
- swype keyboard
- microSD for extra storage
- true multitasking
- tethering (dunno if iphone has it or not)

^that pretty much hit most the major points

Don't like your keyboard, change it.
Don't like your browser, change it.
Can't do the above on an iphone
although is this a debate over android vs ios, or captivate vs iphone4
I think in the latter, iphone 4 wins in terms of specs. but captivate wins everything else

i would kind of agree that spec wise the iphone4 might be better.. but not ios over android

iPhone 4 is an example of form over function. It has 2 slides that are glass and an exterior antenna that is covered by your hand. Apple decided to put looks in before performance.
Then there is the lack of the customization. Every iPhone screen looks the same.
It can not be unlocked via the carrier (in North America).
Every function requires 3rd party software - it can't be used as a mass storage device - so you have to sync with iTunes (or equivalent) to get any data on the phone. If you don't sync, you can't backup what is on the phone.

Download the Beauty of Nature video by Samsung, its does a great job of showing how nice the screen is.
Android market, 75% apps are free, Iphone market, 75% of apps are paid.
The phone is an incognito smart phone, whereas everyone can tell your on an iphone (even the would be mugger).
Slide cover for micro-usb.
More than one button.
User replaceable battery.
Upgradeable memory for a fraction of the cost.
Itunes (need i say more)

Hardware vs. Software
About the only hardware features that are superior to iPhone are:
1. Screen size and color (Super AMOLED).
2. User replaceable battery.
3. SD card.
4. Less fear of damaging device (too much glass on the iphone 4).
5. Better antenna and less dropped calls.
The iPhone will beat Samsung in all other hardware specs.
Software is the Samsung/Android strength:
1. Easier app creation (number of android apps will eventually pass up iphone apps).
2. Multitasking actually works.
3. Better customization (live wallpaper; widgets).
4. More options than you can shake a stick at (might be viewed as a negative to some).

ozone777 said:
About the only hardware features that are superior to iPhone are:
1. Screen size and color (Super AMOLED).
2. User replaceable battery.
3. SD card.
4. Less fear of damaging device (too much glass on the iphone 4).
5. Better antenna and less dropped calls.
The iPhone will beat Samsung in all other hardware specs.
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why? same ram. same cpu. both have agps, six-axis gyro, compass. the captivate even supports bluetooth 3 while the ip4 only does bt 2.1+edr. both do 720p video. yes the camera in ip4 does produce better video/pictures. but spec wise they're identical. both have gorilla glass. the galaxy is lighter, while the ip4 supports quad-band hsdpa (and quad band edge/2g) while captivate is tri-band hsdpa (and quad-band edge/2g). captivate has better video codec support.
what specs are you talking about?

Here's a list that might be helpful:
http://capfaq.com/w/IPhone_Comparison

You should also mention true multi-tasking. iOS applications must support multi-tasking for it to work on the iPhone, if your application (a lot of them don't) doesn't support multi-tasking then it won't work.

vizir said:
why? same ram. same cpu. both have agps, six-axis gyro, compass. the captivate even supports bluetooth 3 while the ip4 only does bt 2.1+edr. both do 720p video. yes the camera in ip4 does produce better video/pictures. but spec wise they're identical. both have gorilla glass. the galaxy is lighter, while the ip4 supports quad-band hsdpa (and quad band edge/2g) while captivate is tri-band hsdpa (and quad-band edge/2g). captivate has better video codec support.
what specs are you talking about?
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You're absolutely right. I was ignoring the obvious similarities and eluding to the actual differences like camera, construction quality, and screen resolution. Although, codec support is actually a software feature.

On the camera and screen resolution you have valid points, but not construction quality. I prefer the feel of the captivate (light phone with a smooth glass screen and great feeling battery cover. Thus that point about quality would be subjective.

krazyphire said:
On the camera and screen resolution you have valid points, but not construction quality. I prefer the feel of the captivate (light phone with a smooth glass screen and great feeling battery cover. Thus that point about quality would be subjective.
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I was speaking in terms of actual quality as in the materials used. The iphone feels more solid than the Cap, and costs more to build, but that doesn't mean it's more comfortable to use.

Captivate is awesome media playback device.
1. Good display ratio for wide screen films and 4" screen. (iPhone is square outdated.....)
2. Easy to load videos on, no need for iTune's , just plug drag and drop on any PC. (iPhone frustrating restrictions on iTunes and limited versatility)
3 .Can play back MKV natively ! and several misc. xvid,divx,avi. (same as above)
4. Can display external and internal subtitles(with appropriate player app from market eg. "mVideoplayer") (no alternate options of playback software on iphone)
5. Comes with integrated 16GB and ability to add another 32GB Micro SDHC (witch i personally have done) 48GB of Media entertainment.
These are main reasons why i got captivate instead of iPhone4.

Ok I have had both phones iphone 4 and currently captivate. Someone said they both have gorilla glass while that might be somewhat true, Iphone 4's glass isnt as good as samsung, I have seen plenty videos to prove it. I have had my captivate for about 2 months and I dont have a single not even tiny scratch on the screen, my iphone 4 which was less then a month old had them all over the screen tiny little scratches.
Overall I think samsungs gorilla glass is much stronger from what i seen then Iphone 4.

Captivate has a better GPU, a bigger screen, and more vibrant colors (though the iphone has a higher resolution screen). Both have similar CPU, battery life, and built-in storage capacity, though the captivate has an SD slot to expand the storage.
Software wise, the captivate is more customizable both out of the box and after hacks. Iphone may be able to jailbreak, but we have access to our actual source code, and can change the OS we use down to a fundamental level. The Captivate supports flash, and with Froyo, it supports 10.1 flash on webpages.
The crushing weakness is the Captivate's GPS. It is broken out of the box. It can be partially fixed with a few different fixes, but it should be completely fix with the Froyo update.

forget the micro usb to hdmi, that's not confirmed as far as I know, maybe a future feature.
look at the interface, apples one big button is easy but not intuitive if that makes sense. the closest thing they have to organization is folders, all apps go on the home screen and you have to sort through a number of icons on a number of screens. android runs widgets so no need to first find then open an app for common things. android has folders, an app drawer to keep icons our of the way. froyo will have a full blown task manager, task managers and switchers are available on android market for 2.1. android shows the six most recent apps running or not which is convenient if you inadvertently close an app that you would like to use again without looking for the icon again. better universal search, hardware key long press binding can be changed with free 3rd party software creating shortcuts to common tasks, you can exit apps with our without killing them, (home key vs back key) , swype, ability to change keyboard, faster scrolling of app drawer than I phones home screens in list view, 3rd party launchers allow scrolling of grid app drawer view.
the camera shoots in low light with night mode, no flash but led flashes are only good for extremely dark close shots, maybe no more than 10-15 feet and look unnatural. the night mode looks very natural in minimal light,
panoramic photos, high contrast amoled screen.
non proprietary data connector, dlna support, more media formats, expandable storage.
cheaper insurance, repairs available through att not just apple stores.
ok I'm running out of things for now. and I can't honestly say the captivate is better, more geek friendly maybe and definitely a better interface I'm my eyes. it comes down to user preference, hopefully you can open up some eyes to what's available and not just be wowed by the array of iphones and accessories in the att store. att doesn't even give this phone any press, they have blackberry and aria commercials, but the captivate commercials don't name the device our outline a single feature they just show a quick picture. the epic and fascinate get alot of press as potential Iphone competitors add well as the new motodroids and htc snapdragon phones.
the iphone is a fine piece of hardware but the interface and apple policies turn me away, hope that helps.
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The Ultimate Phone

In light of the controversy over Nexus S I thought I would see what everyone else thought a phone branded Nexus should be. Before anyone gets to crazy, here are the guide lines:
1) who builds it
2) nothing that is not produced or not going to be produced: aka- "Star Wars in true 3D holograms and a transporter from Star Trek" talk about things that DO exsist like 10 megapixel cameras with flash, accepts 32g class 10 cards, front facing camera, roms, android version, etc.
3)Why
4)Try to explain why there is not this device
That's it, build your Nexus fantasy, and question why we can't have it!

My Dream Nexus
Okay, well I have been thinking about this for a while now, what I would like in a phone, not necessarily a Nexus, and this is what I have come up with. Please understand that I haven't used an Android phone (although I am getting a Galaxy S for Christmas, have found them cheap on eBay from people giving them up for Nexus S' ) so some of this may be irrelevant.
1) Well, to be honest, I don't care who makes it, as long as it is reliable and sturdy. I love the design of the HTC 1 (concept by Andrew Kim, Google it, I can't post links or pictures unfortunately), and it seems to fit HTC's recent designs, so I may as well go with HTC, having played with a Desire and Wildfire, I can't fault the quality.
2) In my mind, I can't see much technology that could be incorporated into a new device that isn't out currently. I think an 8MP camera (large sensor size of course) is about as much as most people will need. A choice of 32/64 GB internal storage seems reasonable, with the option of using a MicroSDHC card up to 32GB. As for processors, I would probably choose that tri-core processor I heard about a while ago (can't remember it's name for the life of me) that had 2 multimedia/powerful cores and one lower clocked core for other tasks, paired with 1GB of RAM, allowing for the future, because with all of this, hopefully it would be at the top for a long time. A screen size of about 4 inches seems perfect, having used an iPod Touch and tested out a Galaxy S and a HD2, preferably with SuperAMOLED(2?). A front facing camera (1.3mp), and all the current sensors would be included. As for connectivity, Wireless N is standard, but you could get this phone in several versions, a HSPA+ version, LTE or WiMAX, to cater for your network of choice, and at a stretch, combine them all into one to have a mega-worldwide phone . Now, the biggest improvement area: batteries. I would definitely have a large capacity battery, at least 1500ma, but possibly even using new technology to make it last longer, such as using Tobacco Mosaic Virus to boost battery life 10x (I read this on Gizmodo today). Thats about all I can think of for hardware, with all of that, you really need decent software, and that's where the fun really begins.
Software is a tricky area in my mind for the Nexus line, being more of a developer type of phone, it should be easy to root and customise everything, installing new ROMs should be painless, and safe, with no risk, similar in a way to an iOS jailbreak (just hit restore in iTunes etc). But, as Andrew Kim mentioned when he did his HTC 1 concept, hardware and software need to be unified. This is where a Nexus could excell, being a Google phone and running stock Android. But to do that, I think the UI needs to become more consistent, much more consistent. Go and look at the HTC 1 concept now on the Design Fabulous website/blog, and find the messaging app mockup. It uses similar shades of grey and black to the phone itself, making it appear seemless, and even beautiful. Yes this would mean giving Android a completely different look, like going from WM6.x to WP7. And remove those buttons, for crying out loud, you have a beautiful touchscreen just there, it should be used! Have 2 buttons, a Home and Menu, integrate the Back option into the UI like in iOS, search could be accessed by holding down/double tapping Home and then the Menu key could be used for the next major shift.
(EDIT: Can't post images, sorry, but please search Google Images for 'windows phone 7 app associated press' and it should be the first image there)
Yes, this is a picture of an app in WP7, but that's not the point. I tried out WP7 the other day, and I found it a refreshing way of using a device. It looked good and was consistent. But I am drifting off, the Menu key. Look at the picture above, look to the left, and see the categories. Imagine that as all the app's options/menu, like pressing the Menu key currently does, as well as anything else. You could swipe through the different screens to get to it (using the screen, like I went on about before), or, similar to getting back to the first page of apps on iOS, press the Menu key to zoom back there. Simple and elegant in my opinion. Implement a similar look and feel across the whole system, and you have some mighty fine software indeed, but for those who wouldn't like it, with the option of installing one of the many ROMs available without any risk.
3) Why? Well, we are a consumer society, with many phones getting replaced in a year or less, and sometimes just being thrown out, we waste so many materials. By providing solid, useful and top of the line hardware, the need to upgrade becomes less as it would take longer to become outdated. I believe software is the key to a platform, and I am not alone in thinking that. That is where the real innovation comes from, so with a standardised Nexus there could be so much innovation coming from users such as the people here at XDA. Most of the hardware is probably available today, if not in the near future, so it is more an evolutionary step, but I will say that the tri-core processor is for more battery life and more power when needed, and the RAM allowing for better multitasking and futureproofing. And I would just love to own a phone looking like the HTC 1 concept, it is awesome and many friends I have shown it to think the same (they aren't techies either).
4) Why can't we have it? Well, I don't actually know why. The only things I can think of which probably isn't in production are: a) the tri-core processor, but dual-cores are in production now or in the next few weeks I imagine, b) SuperAMOLED(2?), mainly because it's Samsung's tech and this would be built by HTC and c) the multiple connectivity radio with HSPA+, LTE and WiMAX probably isn't being developed as of now, maybe not for another year until these networks become more common.
It is the software side of things which puzzles me, but I'm sure it is coming. Someone just has to take this idea with them, and go for gold. I would like to do that personally, but I need to learn how to code better, a lot better. (I joined XDA for inspiration ) I think this UI would work well, and be powerful, elegant and simple at the same time, helping to bring Android into the public as being easy to use and better than Apple's offerings (a tough task, but I would like to think it possible, note I am not an Android fanboy, neither do I hate Apple, but change is good).
Wow, that is a lot of writing... I hope this is acceptable, I would love to have a device like this myself, I think it would be possible in the next 6 months maybe? I am curious to see what others would like, bring on more ideas!

mcsinny99 said:
In light of the controversy over Nexus S I thought I would see what everyone else thought a phone branded Nexus should be. Before anyone gets to crazy, here are the guide lines:
1) who builds it
2) nothing that is not produced or not going to be produced: aka- "Star Wars in true 3D holograms and a transporter from Star Trek" talk about things that DO exsist like 10 megapixel cameras with flash, accepts 32g class 10 cards, front facing camera, roms, android version, etc.
3)Why
4)Try to explain why there is not this device
That's it, build your Nexus fantasy, and question why we can't have it!
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I believe thats this is just a useless post. U ask people to xplain their fantasies but dont include phones not or never will be built?!
plainly put there is n never will be any ultimate phone since whatever u buy now is obsolete in 2 months.
@ OP
Post something more productive. There are other places u can go to post ur wishes n dreams.

kaivish said:
I believe thats this is just a useless post. U ask people to xplain their fantasies but dont include phones not or never will be built?!
plainly put there is n never will be any ultimate phone since whatever u buy now is obsolete in 2 months.
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I'm sorry, but I think you may have misunderstood the point about no Star Trek stuff. Reasonable fantasies would probably be a better way of thinking of it, maybe something you could get within the next few years. Yes, phones will be obsolete within months of release, but as I mentioned in my post, I think software is the real contender in the future, so once you have a decent specced phone, the software can do the rest.
I'm personally interested in what people want from a phone which isn't out already. So if you think this isn't productive, you don't have to read it. I think some good stuff could come out of here, and you never know, Google or HTC could be listening

1) built by samsung
2)3.8" super AMOLED screen with a resolution of 1024x720 for a true HD display and 329 PPI(pixels per inch). a 1.2Ghz dual-core orion processor, Nvidia GPU,samsungs own NFC chip included in the nexus S, 2.3 Gingerbread ,10MP continual Auto-focus camera that can record at 720p, maximum microSD card is 32GB class 6, 16GB on-board storage,unlocked bootloader for easy loading of ROM's,1.3MP front facing camera, hardware camera shutter button, contour display, choice of stock 2.3 launcher or Touchwiz 3.0 launcher.
3) because why shouldnt we have tech this awesome , and if you think about it , most laptops would e obsolete if this were true , along with point and shoot cameras
4)Cost, cost of manufacture , cost of retail, too much R&D would be needed , to many other products would become obsolete, this to would need to be released quickly , or have 3.0 loaded onto it when it becomes readily available.
and can i have it by christmas please santa ??

CPU:
Snapdragon QSD8672 (1.5GHz Dualcore)
RAM:
1024MB DDR2 Mobile RAM (Elpida Produced)
GPU:
256MB nVidia Tegra GPU
Storage:
OS/Applications: 2048MB SSD
External Storage: 32GB MicroSD
Imaging
5MP Main Camera (Any does me tbh)
Sound
Bluetooth Cochlear Implant w/ Induction Charging Circuit
Screen/s
Wrist Display - Subdermal LCD w/ Single Action Touch Sensor and Induction Charging Circuit - http://www.gearfuse.com/subdermal-implant-watch-tattoo/
Main Screen - WSVGA Touch Screen
Power
5x 250A Lithium Ion Polymer Cells using Cell Balancing
Location Services
GPS
Accelerometer
Digital Compass
Altimeter
Connectivity
Micro USB 3.0
WiFi
HSDPA
3G
GPRS
the usual basically...
Would be my ultimate like

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2)3.8" super AMOLED screen with a resolution of 1024x720 for a true HD display and 329 PPI(pixels per inch). a 1.2Ghz dual-core orion processor, Nvidia GPU,samsungs own NFC chip included in the nexus S, 2.3 Gingerbread ,10MP continual Auto-focus camera that can record at 720p, maximum microSD card is 32GB class 6, 16GB on-board storage,unlocked bootloader for easy loading of ROM's,1.3MP front facing camera, hardware camera shutter button, contour display, choice of stock 2.3 launcher or Touchwiz 3.0 launcher.
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Sounds decent I like your thinking!

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1) built by samsung
2)3.8" super AMOLED screen with a resolution of 1024x720 for a true HD display and 329 PPI(pixels per inch). a 1.2Ghz dual-core orion processor, Nvidia GPU,samsungs own NFC chip included in the nexus S, 2.3 Gingerbread ,10MP continual Auto-focus camera that can record at 720p, maximum microSD card is 32GB class 6, 16GB on-board storage,unlocked bootloader for easy loading of ROM's,1.3MP front facing camera, hardware camera shutter button, contour display, choice of stock 2.3 launcher or Touchwiz 3.0 launcher.
3) because why shouldnt we have tech this awesome , and if you think about it , most laptops would e obsolete if this were true , along with point and shoot cameras
4)Cost, cost of manufacture , cost of retail, too much R&D would be needed , to many other products would become obsolete, this to would need to be released quickly , or have 3.0 loaded onto it when it becomes readily available.
and can i have it by christmas please santa ??
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@3) That is my theory as well. But why not fire a shot across the bow of other manufacturers? Set the bar higher and watch them scramble to catch up?

2) In my mind, I can't see much technology that could be incorporated into a new device that isn't out currently. I think an 8MP camera (large sensor size of course) is about as much as most people will need. A choice of 32/64 GB internal storage seems reasonable, with the option of using a MicroSDHC card up to 32GB. As for processors, I would probably choose that tri-core processor I heard about a while ago (can't remember it's name for the life of me) that had 2 multimedia/powerful cores and one lower clocked core for other tasks, paired with 1GB of RAM, allowing for the future, because with all of this, hopefully it would be at the top for a long time. A screen size of about 4 inches seems perfect, having used an iPod Touch and tested out a Galaxy S and a HD2, preferably with SuperAMOLED(2?). A front facing camera (1.3mp), and all the current sensors would be included. As for connectivity, Wireless N is standard, but you could get this phone in several versions, a HSPA+ version, LTE or WiMAX, to cater for your network of choice, and at a stretch, combine them all into one to have a mega-worldwide phone . Now, the biggest improvement area: batteries. I would definitely have a large capacity battery, at least 1500ma, but possibly even using new technology to make it last longer, such as using Tobacco Mosaic Virus to boost battery life 10x (I read this on Gizmodo today). Thats about all I can think of for hardware, with all of that, you really need decent software, and that's where the fun really begins.
Software is a tricky area in my mind for the Nexus line, being more of a developer type of phone, it should be easy to root and customise everything, installing new ROMs should be painless, and safe, with no risk, similar in a way to an iOS jailbreak (just hit restore in iTunes etc). But, as Andrew Kim mentioned when he did his HTC 1 concept, hardware and software need to be unified. This is where a Nexus could excell, being a Google phone and running stock Android. But to do that, I think the UI needs to become more consistent, much more consistent. Go and look at the HTC 1 concept now on the Design Fabulous website/blog, and find the messaging app mockup. It uses similar shades of grey and black to the phone itself, making it appear seemless, and even beautiful. Yes this would mean giving Android a completely different look, like going from WM6.x to WP7. And remove those buttons, for crying out loud, you have a beautiful touchscreen just there, it should be used! Have 2 buttons, a Home and Menu, integrate the Back option into the UI like in iOS, search could be accessed by holding down/double tapping Home and then the Menu key could be used for the next major shift.
(EDIT: Can't post images, sorry, but please search Google Images for 'windows phone 7 app associated press' and it should be the first image there)
Yes, this is a picture of an app in WP7, but that's not the point. I tried out WP7 the other day, and I found it a refreshing way of using a device. It looked good and was consistent. But I am drifting off, the Menu key. Look at the picture above, look to the left, and see the categories. Imagine that as all the app's options/menu, like pressing the Menu key currently does, as well as anything else. You could swipe through the different screens to get to it (using the screen, like I went on about before), or, similar to getting back to the first page of apps on iOS, press the Menu key to zoom back there. Simple and elegant in my opinion. Implement a similar look and feel across the whole system, and you have some mighty fine software indeed, but for those who wouldn't like it, with the option of installing one of the many ROMs available without any risk.
3) Why? Well, we are a consumer society, with many phones getting replaced in a year or less, and sometimes just being thrown out, we waste so many materials. By providing solid, useful and top of the line hardware, the need to upgrade becomes less as it would take longer to become outdated. I believe software is the key to a platform, and I am not alone in thinking that. That is where the real innovation comes from, so with a standardised Nexus there could be so much innovation coming from users such as the people here at XDA. Most of the hardware is probably available today, if not in the near future, so it is more an evolutionary step, but I will say that the tri-core processor is for more battery life and more power when needed, and the RAM allowing for better multitasking and futureproofing. And I would just love to own a phone looking like the HTC 1 concept, it is awesome and many friends I have shown it to think the same (they aren't techies either).
4) Why can't we have it? Well, I don't actually know why. The only things I can think of which probably isn't in production are: a) the tri-core processor, but dual-cores are in production now or in the next few weeks I imagine, b) SuperAMOLED(2?), mainly because it's Samsung's tech and this would be built by HTC and c) the multiple connectivity radio with HSPA+, LTE and WiMAX probably isn't being developed as of now, maybe not for another year until these networks become more common.
It is the software side of things which puzzles me, but I'm sure it is coming. Someone just has to take this idea with them, and go for gold. I would like to do that personally, but I need to learn how to code better, a lot better. (I joined XDA for inspiration ) I think this UI would work well, and be powerful, elegant and simple at the same time, helping to bring Android into the public as being easy to use and better than Apple's offerings (a tough task, but I would like to think it possible, note I am not an Android fanboy, neither do I hate Apple, but change is good).
Wow, that is a lot of writing... I hope this is acceptable, I would love to have a device like this myself, I think it would be possible in the next 6 months maybe? I am curious to see what others would like, bring on more ideas![/QUOTE]
Great post, I agree with most of what you have to say, but I feel wp7 is behind in ui. Take that home screen that just plainly wastes 1/3 of the screen. Sure, android phones could loose those buttons, but I still think it's a step ahead of the competition. The slick ui concept http://phandroid.com/2010/10/25/slick-ui-promising-look-at-an-android-home-screen-replacement-app/ may be a step towards that htc 1 concept (WOW, btw, had not seen that- http://designfabulous.blogspot.com/2010/07/htc-1.html) that we will get soon. Seems people just don't like the idea of those permanent screen buttons. I am coming around myself.

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Great post, I agree with most of what you have to say, but I feel wp7 is behind in ui. Take that home screen that just plainly wastes 1/3 of the screen. Sure, android phones could loose those buttons, but I still think it's a step ahead of the competition. The slick ui concept http://phandroid.com/2010/10/25/slick-ui-promising-look-at-an-android-home-screen-replacement-app/ may be a step towards that htc 1 concept (WOW, btw, had not seen that- http://designfabulous.blogspot.com/2010/07/htc-1.html) that we will get soon. Seems people just don't like the idea of those permanent screen buttons. I am coming around myself.
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I have to agree the homescreen doesn't make total use of the space, but I guess it helps make it look less cluttered, however that is personal. What I meant about WP7 was the different approach to apps, specifically the side scrolling nature of everything.
I love watching the reactions of people who look at the HTC 1 concept, every single person I have shown it to so far has just kinda said either I want one now or wow... Rather interesting to see
As for the buttons, I am undecided personally. I can see the use of having more, but I am starting to like simpler, less cluttered looks myself. I guess in that respect the Galaxy S International is half ground, having one hard button and two capacitive, which you don't really notice too much if they're not lit up.

1. Does not matter, until it is high quality and not cheap plastic.
2.
- [at least] 4" sAMOLED display (or even IPS) with standard 480x800 resolution
Buttons should be:
- Camera and power on the right side
- Volume on the left side
- Menu, back, home buttons under the screen (preferably touch buttons)
- The latest Tegra2 dual-core CPU what performs at 2GHz max, and the best mobile 3d acceleration too
- High capacity but thin battery (1600mAh)
- 12Mp camera on the back, at least 3.2Mp camera on front (or something like the Adam, a rotate-able camera ontop) with dual xenon-led flash (and of course separate control, so they can be used separately)
- Projector on top part of the phone
- 1024MB RAM, 1024MB ROM(formatted for 512-512MB), dedicated 256MB SWAP, internal 16/32GB memcard, support for SDXC cards (capacity up to 2048GB)
- Bluetooth 3.0, USB 3.0, NFC, WLAN b/g/n, DLNA support, 4G support, USB Host functions
- Android OS of course, bumped with a nice slick UI, made by real designers, not some manufacturer (actually, Samsung is pretty good in these stuffs)
- Open system (no secure bootloader, etc) if you want it
3. Why? Because as a dev phone, developers needs the BEST device to test. If the stuff runs OK on the best, it should run properly on all other. Of course, device spec fragmentation is huge, we can't make all manufacturers to use the same CPU, motherboard, radio part, etc. That's where WinPhone7 failed great.
And also, let's provide something for the money they ask for a "smart phone". My current ZTE Blade knows a lot more than the HTC Legend, but costs half or even third of the money (here in Hungary a Legend costs around 90.000HUF, what is approx. 400-500$. The Blade, while it has more cocoa in it, costs around 200$). That's not right!
4. Why can't we have it?
That's easy. Manufacturers want people to buy their new phone when it comes out. Even if it costs a lot. They won't make an "Ultimate Phone", because then after everyone bought his/her own one, there would be no need of new stocks, and done. This way, they always keep up the interest for a slightly new phone (like Nexus S, a dumber Galaxy S, with Gingerbread), just to earn the highest profit with the lowest cost involved. The manufacturer who makes the "Ultimate Phone" would get rich at first sight, then until something more Ultimate is released, they just don't have income. See what I mean? Manufacturers use the first, big boom to earn back all the money they spent for "improvements" while selling almost the same phones. Just like Samsung as I said, or Nokia (N97 and N97 Mini, N8 and E7), or Sony Ericsson (X10, X10 pro; X10 mini, X10 mini pro; Vivaz, Satio, Vivaz Pro). Slight improvements, huge incomes.

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4. Why can't we have it?
That's easy. Manufacturers want people to buy their new phone when it comes out. Even if it costs a lot. They won't make an "Ultimate Phone", because then after everyone bought his/her own one, there would be no need of new stocks, and done. This way, they always keep up the interest for a slightly new phone (like Nexus S, a dumber Galaxy S, with Gingerbread), just to earn the highest profit with the lowest cost involved. The manufacturer who makes the "Ultimate Phone" would get rich at first sight, then until something more Ultimate is released, they just don't have income. See what I mean? Manufacturers use the first, big boom to earn back all the money they spent for "improvements" while selling almost the same phones. Just like Samsung as I said, or Nokia (N97 and N97 Mini, N8 and E7), or Sony Ericsson (X10, X10 pro; X10 mini, X10 mini pro; Vivaz, Satio, Vivaz Pro). Slight improvements, huge incomes.
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That's definitely a solid reason, and as much as we/consumers don't like it, the big companies will undoubtedly keep doing the same, just to stay in business. Still, I can see it being half possible if a manufacturer like made half-ground or something

Read these old posts made me lol 1600mAh high capacity lol I do not that was even high capacity when this topic was made!,OK here is my Ultimate phone for 2010 5.2in 940x560 LCD IPS display,SoC a custom One we well call t186 it has 4 A9-cortex core clocked at 1.6Ghz and a powerVR SXG543MP6 GPU with 2GB of LPDDR2 RAM,battery a 3500mAh battery,OS android honey comb 3.4,camera 10 megapixel rear camera 2mp front camera now that is a phone my friends!
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tech_yeet said:
Read these old posts made me lol 1600mAh high capacity lol I do not that was even high capacity when this topic was made!,OK here is my Ultimate phone for 2010 5.2in 940x560 LCD IPS display,SoC a custom One we well call t186 it has 4 A9-cortex core clocked at 1.6Ghz and a powerVR SXG543MP6 GPU with 2GB of LPDDR2 RAM,battery a 3500mAh battery,OS android honey comb 3.4,camera 10 megapixel rear camera 2mp front camera now that is a phone my friends!
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That's not even close to the s5 and note 4... lol... year old phone.

eloko said:
That's not even close to the s5 and note 4... lol... year old phone.
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And actually the GPU would be more powerful the SGS5...
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Sprint Galaxy S3 or EVO 4G LTE?

My upgrade isn't until Oct 1st, but I've been doing a lot of research on what phone to get. I have an OG EVO that I've been very happy with, so I'm leaning towards HTC, but the GS3 is also very impressive. Even after playing with both phones for quite awhile in the store and reading a lot of comparisons and threads online, I still can't decide. My impressions so far:
HTC EVO 4G LTE
Likes:
More accurate colors - See this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijBzWmYnZGI, starting at 6:00
Kickstand - I love the kickstand. I use it constantly on my OG EVO.
Sense UI - I'm used to it and like how it looks and feels
Physical camera button - No explanation required here.
Dislikes:
Poor multi-tasking - overly aggressive task killer
Mitigating Factor - Fixed in most ROMs​
No Menu button - I don't like the three dots black bar on non-ICS compliant apps
Mitigating Factor - Can remap task list button to menu​
1GB RAM - less impressive that the GS3's 2GB
Mitigating Factor - May not matter any time soon? Even Nexus 7 only has 1GB.​
Low fps video recording
Mitigating Factor - I rarely record videos with my phone.​
Non-replaceable battery
Mitigating Factor - Much better battery life than OG EVO, which I never used a 2nd battery anyways. I plug in everywhere.​
Samsung Galaxy S3
Likes:
Good multi-tasking - I like the task manager design and it's not aggressive when it comes to killing tasks.
2GB RAM - Possibly more future proof?
30 fps video recording - Smoother videos.
Replaceable battery - Self explanatory. You run out of battery, you pop in a new one.
Dislikes:
Oversaturated colors - See video from above.
Mitigating Factor - None. The intentional version of GS3 has a display mode switch with a Natural Mode, but that's not present in the US version for some reason.​
Low max brightness
Mitigating Factor - None. Could be a problem in bright daylight.​
No kickstand - This is a bummer, because it's a feature I use daily on my OG EVO.
Mitigating Factor - There are cases with built-in kickstands, but not sure if that'd make the phone too thick.​
TouchWiz UI - I don't like how it looks.
Mitigating Factor - Can replace it with Apex Launcher, which I do like.​
Suspect build quality history - The trend with Samsung's build quality hasn't been good.
Mitigating Factor - Anecdotal reports seem to indicate that the build quality is much improved in the GS3. But it hasn't been out long enough to establish any kind of trend lines.​
Anyways, thoughts and comments to help me decide?
EDIT: Also, please vote in the poll!

I'm personally proud to be an HTC fanboy. Which surprises me to no end that I would prefer sgs3. I've had the pleasure of using the both, and the sgs3 wins hands down in my honest opinion. Holding the sgs3 in your hand is like a firm welcoming handshake lol. Evo 4g lte is a good phone too, my biggest dislike is the whole battery thing. I personally stock up on at least two OEM battery's and one extended each time I buy a phone, because I like to not have to charge my phone multiple times per day.
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Thanks Anyone else have any thoughts?

EVO LTE
I am a huge fan of the EVO LTE, the only downside is that until LTE is rolled out in my area, the 3g is so slow. Overall, this phone is a huge upgrade from the OG EVO (which I loved). Photos are very clear, the menu button is no big deal when you can flash the menu remap, audio is nice a crisp on headphones.

The Galaxy S3 is the best
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S3 for me better than evo 4g

Your choice
I personally like the S3 better, but just like anything in life its personal preference. Also the devs working on the S3 in this form are great people putting out some amazing products

PasqualeITA said:
The Galaxy S3 is the best
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S3 for me better than evo 4g
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I personally like the S3 better, but just like anything in life its personal preference. Also the devs working on the S3 in this form are great people putting out some amazing products
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Are there any specific factors that pushed you guys towards the S3? Thanks.

Samsung Galaxy III all the way.

tadeas482 said:
Samsung Galaxy III all the way.
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Would like to hear your reasons for choosing the SG3 over the EVO. Thanks

htc has a track record of abandoning "flagship" devices after a very short amount of time. Plus the S3 is a better phone all around.

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Would like to hear your reasons for choosing the SG3 over the EVO. Thanks
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1. It feels more smooth...the interface...it is noticebly faster
2. I prefer Samsung hardware (Exynos, Mali) over that ****ty Tegra
3. It has better GPU
4. It has better camera
5. CPUs are about the same but I actually prefer Samsung's Exynos proccessor
6. 50 Gb free on Dropbox against 25 Gb free
7. Better display(Super Amoled HD)

tadeas482 said:
1. It feels more smooth...the interface...it is noticebly faster
2. I prefer Samsung hardware (Exynos, Mali) over that ****ty Tegra
3. It has better GPU
4. It has better camera
5. CPUs are about the same but I actually prefer Samsung's Exynos proccessor
6. 50 Gb free on Dropbox against 25 Gb free
7. Better display(Super Amoled HD)
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I'm comparing the US (Sprint) versions, so they both have the same Snapdragon S4 SoC I do notice the smoothness of the SG3 though. But I wonder if Jelly Bean will equalize things? I took some pictures with both in the store, and the image quality appear comparable. Why do you say that the SG3 has a better camera?
As for the screen, I stated my preference for the more natural colors on the SLCD2 vs the over-saturated colors on the SAMOLED. Just my person preference really

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I'm comparing the US (Sprint) versions, so they both have the same Snapdragon S4 SoC I do notice the smoothness of the SG3 though. But I wonder if Jelly Bean will equalize things? I took some pictures with both in the store, and the image quality appear comparable. Why do you say that the SG3 has a better camera?
As for the screen, I stated my preference for the more natural colors on the SLCD2 vs the over-saturated colors on the SAMOLED. Just my person preference really
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With that camera...I saw sample shots and it seemed to me that S III has a better camera.

morfinx said:
I'm comparing the US (Sprint) versions...
As for the screen, I stated my preference for the more natural colors on the SLCD2 vs the over-saturated colors on the SAMOLED. Just my person preference really
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My contract is up now, and sadly my Evo 3D is starting to feel the wear and tear of it (drops, dings, trim coming off).
I've pretty much always have had HTC devices, but the S III has really peaked my interest!
Only thing I'm worried about in choosing, is the screen brightness/colors.
I was in the store today and felt like the HTC screen was crisper and brighter. The brightness on both was turned all the way up, and I'm concerned this is not something a ROM or app could increase (unlike volume and other things). Am I wrong?
Also, someone mentioned HTC's early exit from their flagship phones, and I didn't think about that... but they're right, they do abandoned their phones quicker it seems (of course, I've never had anything BUT HTC phones, so maybe it's par for the course and I'm just mad.)
Only other issue I could foresee is the physical camera button. I do use mine a lot on the 3D, and always liked it, but I wonder if I would miss it.
Again, the screen brightness/color is my biggest concern.
Any thoughts on the two?
Great thread btw!

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Only thing I'm worried about in choosing, is the screen brightness/colors.
I was in the store today and felt like the HTC screen was crisper and brighter. The brightness on both was turned all the way up, and I'm concerned this is not something a ROM or app could increase (unlike volume and other things). Am I wrong?
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That's my biggest concern. And no it's not something that can be changed in software, at least not the max brightness. But I think some people like the over-saturated colors because it tends to make pictures "pop". But it just looks really unnatural to me. Did you watch the review video I posted in the first thread? it shows you what I'm talking about (also they do an outside usability test).
Also, someone mentioned HTC's early exit from their flagship phones, and I didn't think about that... but they're right, they do abandoned their phones quicker it seems (of course, I've never had anything BUT HTC phones, so maybe it's par for the course and I'm just mad.)
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I've heard a lot of complaints about Samsung abandoning support on their phones or taking forever on releasing updates. So I don't think Samsung is any better in this area. Maybe they area bout the same?

LTEVO for me.
I dislike the way samsung bent over for apple when building the device, the pentile screen, and touchwiz UI (looks like crayola designed it). The SIII had great marketing & release on all of the major carriers.
I love the EVO's camera/camera app, HTC's build quality (Siii feels like a childs toy in my hands) & our developers. From your list in the OP, its pretty clear you prefer to LTEVO. Just make the jump.

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htc has a track record of abandoning "flagship" devices after a very short amount of time. Plus the S3 is a better phone all around.
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Hmm, if I remember correctly Samsung has the same problem + they take forever to push out updates.
OP: The processor is the same in both of them. The ram, as you said, is unneeded and probably won't be for a while. The internals are pretty much the same, so this comes down to the appereance of the device and the Evo LTE wins in the beautification department.
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I think the RAM alone is worth it, they're not too different than each other.
But in terms of futureproofing and probably development, the SGS3 is the way to go, especially if not the Verizon variant.

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I think the RAM alone is worth it, they're not too different than each other.
But in terms of futureproofing and probably development, the SGS3 is the way to go, especially if not the Verizon variant.
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By the time we get around to using that ram the processor will be out dated. OP: You could probably sweet talk yourself into an early upgrade.
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One S vs SIII

'sup folks.
This thread is dedicated to my lovely wife who just couldn't make up her mind between One S ("kinda looks nice"), Galaxy SIII ("oh nice screen"), and iPhone5 ("when is it coming out? my 3GS feels old"). And between all 3 of them, "can i unlock them?" (in Canada, phones are locked to their ISP, so if I buy it from, say, Rogers, I can't just pop another SIM card from, say, Bell.)
So what do u guys think?
Personally, I'm an Android guy through and through. Can't fix it? Find a ROM to restore it. Boot another ROM. Root it on day one. So iPhone is out of the question. But I tend to like the look of One S better than SIII. and i had good experience with HTC phones. and SIII costs $100 more.
But she's been using iPhone3GS, love the simplicity, has no idea what 'rooting' is and why its necessary no matter how many times I explained that it's necessary for TiBackup to work... But she plays around with my Nexus7 and loves to stream Korean drama and check Facebook with it. And last time we went to Costco she saw the SIII on display and goes "oh wow, that's a nice screen. does it work like ur Nexus? I kinda want it." So mainly for her, OneS is the cheaper phone, but SIII's screen looks amazing, and she'll only be using her phone for;
a. take photos
b. facebook
c. browse the latest grocery flyers and baby product review
d. stream korean dramas
e. whatsapp
What do you think she should pick up? Or she should just wait for the next iPhone in a month or two?
Any input?

I think your wife would be better of with the One S. she doesn't really sound like an advanced user that would really care much about the spec difference. the One S is $100 cheaper and can do the things she wants to do just fine.

clubkevin11 said:
I think your wife would be better of with the One S. she doesn't really sound like an advanced user that would really care much about the spec difference. the One S is $100 cheaper and can do the things she wants to do just fine.
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thanks. that's what i think too.
say, what do u think between OneS's screen vs my RAZR? just for easier comparison for her to see, rather than going down to the local mall and play with one under the watchful eyes of eager salesmen....

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6

R3dbeaver said:
thanks. that's what i think too.
say, what do u think between OneS's screen vs my RAZR? just for easier comparison for her to see, rather than going down to the local mall and play with one under the watchful eyes of eager salesmen....
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the RAZR and the HOS have the same screen, Pentile AMOLED 960x540. But i have seen many people state that the RAZR can have a yellow tint while the colors are more balanced on the HOS

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
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nice. thanks!
so for my wife's sake, i can safely say "its like my RAZR, but the color is abit better".

I'd say 1S for your wife. Main reasons would be the superior camera and slim, sleek form factor. Honestly as much as I love my 1S I want to trade and get an S3, my hands are just too big for this thing!:screwy: but I think this is the best android phone for a woman hands down, it's a sexy device that's for sure.
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1S the best for sure...
To be hones I have not realy used the S3 myself... I have had it in my hands and just new it is way to big... I had the One X to start of with but then changed it for a 1S mainly because of the size... Why would I need a "mobile PHONE" with a quadcore anyway...?!

i just traded my tmobile GS3 for a htc one s plus cash. the GS3 camera sucks at night. i can post photos in a few. my buddy has the evo 4g lte which should be the same camera as the one s. u will see a big difference in quality. also the GS3 was pretty big. i thought it would be cool but i didnt like it cause it was hard to use with just one hand. unless u got some big hands u might like it. plus the one s just feels better in the hand and it feels lighter. oh and HTC Sense 4.0 over Touchwiz anyday lol.
1st Pic: GS3
2nd Pic: Evo 4G LTE
3rd Pic: GS3
4th Pic: Evo 4G LTE

Comprehensive breakdown because I feel like doing one to refresh the mind.
CPU/GPU: Known quantity. One S isn't as fast as the GS3 here (international to international) but the reduced resolution of the One S hides the GPU deficit and the CPUs are basically equal. The US GS3 is same for CPU, slightly slower on GPU because they use the same chipset.
Display: One S is MUCH better in terms of calibration. The white point is accurate and gamma stays constant. Brightness is essentially only limited by hard protection, but you should never need to turn it up to that point. Overall, the One S has the better colors, GS3 has the better pixel density. Pick your poison.
Camera: Stock to stock, GS3 might win because the One S has pretty heavy compression on both video and photos. Once you get an HQ camera mod though, even the very best that the GS3 can produce is not as sharp as the One S. The One S doesn't use flash for focusing though, so that's something the GS3 wins on for low light flash photos.
Software: Sense is nice for people who know it, and looks nice too. Touchwiz is more functional but doesn't look as good. Once you get rid of Sense's 3D effects it runs much better on the home screen. Elsewhere is a matter of ROM optimization, and is basically close enough to not be worth discussing
Battery: The One S CAN be much better for battery life than the GS3, but requires much more management to do so, because even small battery drainers can lead to big loss of battery because the One S has a much smaller battery capacity compared to the GS3. GS3 is generally less efficient because of the very blue display, and the fact that it's a HUGE display. Exynos might draw more power too.
Design: Subjective. If you like metal, I guess the One S wins.
Decisive winners: If you care about expandable storage and removable battery enough to swing your decision, GS3 will probably be the one you want.

I agree with most of the above apart from:
CPU/GPU - The CPU in the one S is the better one overall as the performance per core is quite a bit better than the exynos quad in the GS 3 and at this stage currently with android and apps, it is far more important than having an additional 2 cores. Not only is it better for performance, but it is also better for power efficiency and the amount of heat given out
The GPU in the int. GS 3 is far better. Although as you said there isn't much difference in real world use especially as the S has the inferior res. so games etc. won't be as stressful.
Also the One S does beat the GS 3 in quite a few benchmark tests, the GS 3 only really beats it in tests that use/are dependant on the GPU i.e. quadrant (also quadrant gives quad core a better score just due to it having 2 extra cores)
In real world usage though, there isn't a huge amount of difference, I personally found the one S to be more snappy/instant feel and the GS 3 more smoother overall (there should be very little to virtually no difference when JB comes to both phones officially)
Camera - GS 3 100 times over the one S for 1080P video recording quality (however, the one s 100 times over the GS 3 for stereo audio recording ), however, the camera for photos is more or less equal, some shots look better on the GS 3 and likewise for the S, however, the camera UI and features are far better on the S
Battery - The battery life is better on the S overall (personally I didn't do much tweaking to it, just turned stuff like auto brightness off, wifi max performance off etc.
However, with the GS 3 you can have the option to use spares and an extended battery at some point.......due to it being removable
Whilst the GS 3 does have a bigger battery, it needs it due to the bigger and 720P screen as well as a more power hungry CPU
Imagine how long the S would last with one full charge on a 2100mAh battery!
And yup, exactly, the extra storage of the GS 3 and removable battery are 2 of the main deciding factors IMO.
Honestly think your wife will prefer the one S due to size, sense (you really don't need to faff about with rooting and replacing every app with 3rd party ones, sense apps are great and they also look "pretty" )

very informative, guys! thanks!
i think 1S wins for her due to smaller size and (arguably) better/faster camera. she's quite a petite lady. and i dont think she cares about battery replacement or storage. haha, storage... all the years she owns 3G and 3GS, she downloaded a total of probably 10 apps. 7 she removed on the first day. (i know she kept the Economist, Whatsapp, and BBC News....)
but if she does wants the bigger "nicer" (in her own words) screen, then all bets are off... i'll talk to her again tonight